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to talk about consciousness. Who are you,
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lady? Talk about the spiritual things. It's
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probably useful to know what informs
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my perspective. my perspective.
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I have never had a
5:02
near-death experience. I do not
5:04
come from a lineage of
5:06
gurus. I'm not ordained in
5:08
any religion. I have not
5:11
made any formal vows, not to
5:13
any kind of organized religion.
5:15
I have not done a
5:17
three-year retreat. I am not a
5:20
PhD, nor do I play one
5:22
on Instagram. I used to run
5:24
a think tank. I ran a
5:26
think tank in Washington DC for
5:28
future studies. That was weird. I
5:30
had first level security clearance of
5:32
the Pentagon. I have had plenty
5:34
of therapy. Please buy my course
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so I can pay for all
5:39
my therapy. I have had Youngian
5:41
therapy. I have had just alt
5:43
therapy. I've had a Jewish Buddhist
5:45
psychotherapist. He is one of my
5:47
favorites. Most of my girlfriends have had
5:49
a ton of therapy, which means I
5:51
have gotten therapy by proxy, you know,
5:53
you say. So what did she tell
5:55
you about him projecting onto you? Oh
5:57
my God, that's brilliant. And then you
5:59
go... home and you use the
6:02
technique on your people, you
6:04
know? I have experienced
6:06
a bona fide dark night of
6:08
the soul. Panic attacks,
6:10
anxiety, suicidal ideation
6:13
for a period of my
6:15
life. My psychotherapist called it
6:18
a living death, could not
6:20
have agreed more. There has
6:22
been loss and divorce and
6:24
I have been on the
6:26
receiving end of cancel culture.
6:29
I've worked with a lot
6:31
of shamans and energy healers.
6:33
There's one healer in particular
6:36
who has been my greatest teacher
6:38
and she lives a very private
6:40
monk-like life. And her teaching,
6:42
her name is V.S. V.S.
6:45
Her teaching and training
6:47
informs almost all of
6:49
my esoteric perspective now.
6:51
We work together to
6:53
create our meditation and
6:55
ritual kits from karma
6:57
to energy cleansing. So...
6:59
Her wisdom and perspective
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is woven into all
7:03
of the spiritual essentials.
7:05
I've had some very
7:07
significant, very moving mystical
7:10
experiences in my life,
7:12
but I don't really
7:15
talk much about them
7:17
to anybody, mostly because there
7:19
aren't words. So I may
7:22
have, you know, touched the
7:24
infinite a few times, but
7:26
bottom line. I love bottom
7:28
line is I'm still here
7:30
and I got to do my
7:33
laundry and I post a lot
7:35
to Instagram so
7:37
here we are I consider
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myself a seeker but
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I'm actually trying to
7:43
be less of a seeker and
7:45
just trying to be more
7:48
not be more but just
7:50
be just be By practical definition,
7:52
I'm a writer, but I don't
7:54
even really consider myself a writer,
7:56
even though I've written five books,
7:58
many, many courses. So... a seeker
8:00
who talks about what I found.
8:03
So everything you're going to hear
8:05
is my lived experience. That's the
8:07
only thing I can do to
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be of service, really. Tell you
8:11
about my journey. Let you know what
8:13
I found. Everything you're about
8:15
to hear is what I've been
8:18
taught and what I resonate with.
8:20
It's the stuff that has actually
8:22
worked for me. You're going to
8:24
hear a lot of different
8:26
philosophical... spiritual,
8:29
theological influences, and spiritual
8:31
essentials. You will be
8:33
hearing from Christian Amurdi.
8:35
Of course, The Miracles
8:37
has really helped me
8:39
transition from Christianity
8:42
to cosmic Christianity,
8:44
Adiyashanti, Tantra,
8:47
Buddhism, Buddhist
8:49
non-Pamachodron, Parmahasana-Yogananda,
8:51
Catholicism, Rumi, and I
8:53
will find a way to work in Leonard
8:56
Khan. He's my love in
8:58
another dimension. I was a super
9:00
religious kid. I was raised
9:02
Catholic. I wanted to marry
9:04
Jesus. And I bolted from
9:07
Catholicism and went straight into
9:09
the new age. Louise Hay
9:11
and Wayne Dyer. But what
9:14
was really happening was I
9:16
just replaced the model of
9:18
punitive Christian deities in the
9:21
sky with wellness culture. So
9:23
I just swapped out the Ten
9:25
Commandments and I replaced it with
9:27
the terror of Karma, which we're
9:30
going to talk a lot about
9:32
in this program, by the way,
9:34
Karma. So around the time when
9:36
I was managing a bunch of
9:38
futurists, working in Washington DC, running
9:41
this think tank, really started to
9:43
dawn on me that self-help
9:45
could be another form of self-criticism.
9:48
So eventually I wrote a book
9:50
called White Hot Truth. which you
9:52
can get on audio still. I'm
9:55
most well known for writing a
9:57
book, a methodology called The Desire
9:59
Mat. About 400,000 people have
10:01
gone through the desire map
10:04
process. It turned into a
10:06
day planner system. It turned
10:08
into a coaching and facilitating
10:11
program, a curriculum that's used
10:13
in 30 plus countries. And
10:15
that program evolved into what's
10:18
now called the heart-centered leadership
10:20
program. So we have 400
10:22
coaches and facilitators and youth
10:25
counselors and yoga teachers and
10:27
HR directors who are
10:29
heart-centered workshop outlines and
10:32
conversation starters. And some of
10:34
that content is going to show
10:36
up here in spiritual essentials. All
10:39
of my work, particularly with the
10:41
Desire Map, used to revolve around
10:43
the question, how do you want to
10:45
feel? I love that question. It's
10:47
a useful question. It's a
10:49
developmental question. On the spiritual
10:51
path, you got to ask
10:54
yourself that question. But that's
10:56
not where we stop. How you want
10:58
to feel is not the end game.
11:00
So the question, how do you want
11:02
to feel moved into what do you
11:05
want to embody? What do you want
11:07
to embody? And that's really the
11:09
essence of my latest book, how
11:12
to be loving, how to be
11:14
loving as your heart is breaking
11:16
open and the world is waking
11:18
up. I'm full of contradictions.
11:21
I have dropped mushrooms and
11:23
in the same week I
11:25
refuse pankillers. I have popped
11:27
blue-green algae to pull all
11:29
nighters. I have meditated while having
11:32
a coffee colonic. And let me
11:34
tell you, if you can meditate
11:36
with a tube up your butt,
11:39
you are definitely headed toward
11:41
enlightenment. I temporarily broke up
11:43
with a new age, and
11:45
I started to date new
11:48
physics, because, you know, everything
11:50
happens for a reason. I have been
11:53
the very humble recipient
11:55
of some... healing miracles.
11:57
I have also been duped and
11:59
her harassed by a
12:02
so-called energy worker. I
12:04
have knelt at the feet
12:07
of some masters.
12:09
I have asked Tibetan
12:12
Buddhist Lama from
12:14
Toronto to teach
12:16
me about the heart
12:19
of the matter. And
12:21
he just told
12:23
me to recite
12:26
100,000 Prashna Parameda
12:28
sutras. And I
12:30
had to see that somewhere
12:33
between the yoga classes and
12:35
the sutras and the support
12:37
calls with my shaman and
12:39
the guide of visualizations
12:42
that my spiritual path
12:45
had become another to-do
12:47
list. And I saw that there
12:49
was a conflict
12:51
between sincere spiritual
12:54
aspiration and the
12:56
compulsion to improve. And
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I was tired. I
13:00
was still really devoted to knowing
13:02
more, always more, but mostly I
13:05
was tired. One morning I had an
13:07
early therapy session, as one does,
13:09
on the phone, and after that
13:11
I had a meeting with my
13:13
business lawyer, followed by an interview
13:16
with a magazine editor who wanted
13:18
me to give their readers just
13:20
five easy tips for enlightenment, like
13:22
you know, just the quickies that
13:25
everybody can do. That's how it
13:27
goes in this business. And that
13:29
day was ending and I was
13:32
soaking in my hot bath, you
13:34
know, with some concoction, of course,
13:36
of essential oils and mineral
13:39
sea salts. And I recounted all
13:41
that I had done that week
13:43
to be better. Really all that
13:45
I had been doing for decades to
13:48
keep my energy in shape. and I
13:50
thought about what was written in my
13:52
day planner. Pick up the protein, book
13:54
the cabin for the writing retreat. There
13:57
was more energy work and more yoga
13:59
classes scheduled in. And I looked
14:01
at myself in the
14:03
bathroom mirror and I leaned
14:05
in and my eyes asked me,
14:08
my soul asked me, but
14:10
do you feel free? But
14:12
do you feel free? Do you
14:14
feel free? Because freedom
14:16
is it. Freedom is
14:18
the whole point. So
14:21
many teachers of mysticism
14:23
throughout time concur that
14:26
the reason for spiritual.
14:29
Endevereing is
14:31
liberation, and only liberation.
14:34
Liberation from fear.
14:36
Liberation from restrictive
14:39
ideologies. Liberation from
14:41
illusion. Liberation from
14:44
suffering. Liberation from
14:47
the anxiety of
14:49
not being your true self.
14:51
So, free. Are you feeling
14:53
it? Is everything that
14:55
you are doing to
14:57
be well and liberated
15:00
really helping you to
15:02
be well and liberated?
15:04
Because if liberation
15:06
is a chore, then you aren't
15:08
really free, are you? You
15:11
can't seek approval on your
15:13
way to sovereignty. Freedom
15:15
is not something that
15:17
you need to earn. Joy
15:20
does not come from a
15:22
checklist. It does not come
15:24
from trying to avoid going
15:27
to hell or getting canceled.
15:29
So now that I'm where
15:31
I'm at on my personal path,
15:34
I wonder, you know,
15:36
could I have just
15:38
accepted myself? Much more
15:40
fully, much sooner? Could I
15:42
have pared down on all
15:45
the practices and saved a
15:47
lot of money on therapy
15:49
and workshops? Totally, maybe.
15:51
I don't know, because
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you know, no mud,
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no lotus. Hey,
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stuck in the self-help ground.
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on Hawk Day, you know, like
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I'm not good enough yet, but
20:04
I'll get better. I'll get better
20:06
at bettering myself. Am I better
20:08
yet? It's crazy. And we just
20:10
repeat it. You know, there's a
20:12
Zen sentiment that we are perfect
20:14
and there is room for
20:17
improvement. It's both. Of course
20:19
we want to improve. We
20:21
want to be better at
20:23
all things. That's an evolutionary
20:25
impulse. But what's behind the
20:27
compulsive drive to improve? Criticism.
20:30
Trust me, I know,
20:32
I am a highly
20:35
self-critical, self-improvement author. The
20:37
criticism is the programming. It
20:39
is baked into the psyche. It's
20:41
criticism that we absorb from
20:43
how we are raised. It's
20:45
the trauma that we carry
20:47
over from lifetimes. You know,
20:49
that one time that you're
20:52
burned at the stake for
20:54
being inquisitive that time? It's
20:56
the old patriarchy. still messing
20:58
with your self-esteem. It seeps
21:00
in from every single photoshopped
21:03
image that's telling you that you
21:05
should be thinner, that you should
21:08
be curvier, but only in the
21:10
right places. You should be wider.
21:12
You should be browner. You should
21:14
be perfectly quaffed. You should be
21:17
perpetually positive as you balance your
21:19
workout time and your thriving career.
21:21
And you feed your well-behaved children
21:23
non-genetically modified food. And if you're
21:26
not making time for all of
21:28
these things, well, you must not
21:30
want it badly enough. Maybe what
21:33
you need is another workshop on
21:35
finding your passion. There's lots
21:37
of problems in that. But
21:39
the big problem is
21:42
that lots of believed
21:44
criticism makes for lots
21:46
of efforting to improve
21:48
endless efforting, relentless efforting,
21:50
ruthless efforting, ruthless efforting.
21:53
So what happens when all of the
21:55
life balance hacks don't actually
21:57
get you the results that you want
21:59
or When we do get what
22:01
we set out to achieve, but we feel
22:04
empty when we get there, we just
22:06
criticize ourselves even more
22:08
harshly. All right, we're going to
22:11
be visited a few times
22:13
in spiritual essentials by Pema
22:15
Chodron. She says on self-help
22:17
culture, the problem is that
22:19
the desire to change is
22:21
fundamentally a form of aggression
22:23
toward yourself. The other problem is
22:26
that our hang-ups, unfortunately
22:28
or fortunately, contain our
22:31
wealth. Our neuroses and our
22:33
wisdom are made out of
22:35
the same material. If you
22:37
throw out your neuroses, you
22:39
also throw out your wisdom.
22:41
So have you noticed that
22:43
a lot of women around you
22:46
who are reading the same books
22:48
and listening to the
22:50
same summits on, you
22:52
know... infinite goddess power and
22:55
unconditional harmonious love for
22:57
an unfolding universe and times
22:59
of change for the
23:01
modern woman. Those women
23:03
are all knocking themselves
23:05
out to do the right
23:07
spiritual thing, to be more
23:10
loving, more flexible, more giving.
23:12
There's a lot of powerful
23:14
potential there, right? But the
23:16
exhaustion of trying to be
23:19
good is going to get in the
23:21
way... of peace. The real power, the
23:23
divine power, is getting masked
23:25
by all that's driving. It's
23:27
like when a friend called me
23:29
to tell me about her divorce
23:32
and she said, you know, we're
23:34
going to do a conscious uncoupling.
23:36
I just downloaded the audios on
23:39
it. I said to her,
23:41
yeah, but you're leaving him
23:43
because he's like totally unconscious.
23:45
What you need is a
23:47
conscious lawyer for some women
23:49
on the path. There's some
23:52
serious rage and some
23:54
sorrow that's being buried
23:56
beneath the guided imagery
23:58
and all the platitude. about
24:00
managing your pain. We're going to
24:02
be talking a lot about this
24:04
form of spiritual bypassing.
24:07
Excessive, excessive self-improvement,
24:09
delays getting real.
24:12
So instead of, you know,
24:14
medicating with Marlboros and
24:16
Martinez, maybe we're just
24:18
doing it with metaphysics
24:20
and microbiome cleanses if
24:22
that's even a possible
24:24
thing. So unlike a
24:26
substance addiction that... we have
24:28
to drown our pain. The side
24:30
effects of neurotic psychoanalyzing
24:34
are really difficult to spot.
24:37
You know, you don't end
24:39
up in more rehab from
24:41
too much therapy. You just
24:43
end up in more therapy. And
24:46
there's good news. We're dawning,
24:48
we're growing, we're expanding, you
24:50
know. For so many of
24:53
us, our spiritual devotion is
24:55
so pure-hearted, we're not bypassing
24:58
anything. We're using our spirituality
25:00
to deal directly with every
25:02
part of our lives, the
25:05
painful parts and the blissful
25:07
parts and the mystery of
25:10
everything in between. You
25:12
know, we're dancing. We're learning
25:14
new moves. We're dancing with
25:16
the divine itself. And part
25:18
of that dance is we
25:20
test and we exploit ourselves
25:22
profusely. And it's not because
25:24
we're weak or defective. It's
25:27
because that's what students of
25:29
life do. We sign up
25:31
to learn, right? So we
25:33
give our power away, and
25:35
then we learn how undeniably
25:37
powerful we are as we
25:39
take it back. Powerful retrieval.
25:42
you know it's an
25:44
initiation just for the
25:46
brave-hearted bad choices bad choices
25:48
are how we learn to be
25:51
discerning how we learn to make
25:53
good choices we're experimenting we're living
25:55
into our truth we're growing upward
25:58
we're seeing if the 10 Commandments
26:00
works for us or if
26:03
the Buddha's eightfold path is
26:05
going to add up to
26:07
anything. We're sampling Hinduism. We're
26:10
pagan curious. We're spiritually promiscuous.
26:12
Or maybe, you know, we're
26:15
just totally buttoned up until
26:17
just that right type of
26:19
truth or that perfect practice
26:22
or protocol shows up and
26:24
then we commit to it.
26:27
with everything we've got. It's
26:29
brilliant. It's always going to
26:31
be a good time to
26:34
do a devotional refresh. Our
26:36
practice is still effective. Are
26:38
they still necessary? Is what's
26:41
worked for a long time
26:43
still really working? You know,
26:46
if we lived in... traditionally
26:49
more tribal environments, we might
26:51
be put through a series
26:53
of more esoteric initiations, you
26:55
know, to build our inner
26:57
strength, men that go into
27:00
caves, women that learn to
27:02
see in the dark. But
27:04
here we are, you know,
27:06
instead for most of us,
27:08
our initiations, they come with
27:10
less ritual. They're much less
27:13
formal. So life might give
27:15
us a series of, you
27:17
know, domineering. bosses to teach
27:19
us how to sense deception.
27:21
Now we learn how to
27:24
see in the dark. Or
27:26
maybe we get a health
27:28
diagnosis and that spurs us
27:30
to reach into multiple modalities
27:32
and dimensions to heal the
27:35
disease and we learn that
27:37
we are alchemists. Or maybe
27:39
there's a child that comes
27:41
into our lives with special
27:43
needs and we learn how
27:46
telepathic we really are. So
27:48
our initiations may look more
27:50
pedestrian, but they're just as
27:52
divinely orchestrated. and just as
27:54
effectual as any right of
27:57
passage taken by ordained monks
27:59
or medicine women. We're all
28:01
being initiated. The business of
28:03
spirituality because it's become a
28:05
business. I'm in it. I'm
28:08
in the Make Your Life
28:10
Better industry and it is
28:12
an industry. So many books
28:14
and blogs and supplements and
28:16
so many opinions about how
28:18
to up your mojo and
28:21
purify your psyche. And I
28:23
thought often, you know, I
28:25
wonder if I become jaded
28:27
from seeing all the motivational
28:29
stuff, because it pains me
28:32
that some of the truly
28:34
masterful spiritual teachers of our
28:36
time cannot get a book
28:38
publishing deal because they don't
28:40
have enough likes on their
28:43
Instagram page. They don't even
28:45
know what Instagram is. The
28:47
self-help space has become another
28:49
form of entertainment. And in
28:51
too many cases, it's the
28:54
loudest voices that are the
28:56
ones that get listened to.
28:58
And so many consumers are
29:00
mistaking volume and repetition for
29:02
wisdom. And I'm going to
29:05
contradict myself a bit. Loud
29:07
cheerleading is not entirely a
29:09
bad thing, right? Even if
29:11
it's shallow, even if it's
29:13
shallow. You know, it's an
29:15
expression of encouragement. It's a
29:18
step. It's a step toward
29:20
looking... toward having a more
29:22
meaningful life. There's no straight
29:24
lines to wisdom. And it's
29:26
going to get weird, and
29:29
it's going to get inspiring
29:31
all at the same time.
29:33
You know, the Saints and
29:35
the salesmen, they all have
29:37
their role to play. And
29:40
if you think that you
29:42
have a helpful message of
29:44
your own to share, then
29:46
you get yourself a blog,
29:48
get yourself an Instagram handle,
29:51
just claim five minutes at
29:53
your next staff meeting, and
29:55
you just preach. because your
29:57
truth might be the light
29:59
that lifts someone up that
30:02
day. We need to hear
30:04
your voice. a lot of
30:06
voices. We need to include
30:08
all of them. We need
30:10
to hear the ideas that
30:13
come from people's hearts, you
30:15
know. We know that humanity
30:17
is in trouble. We know
30:19
that the ecosystem is in
30:21
trouble, over-consumption, and the bees
30:23
are struggling. It's unsafe to
30:26
drink a lot of water,
30:28
and we sell humans to
30:30
other humans. we still kill
30:32
in the name of a
30:34
life-giving God. So many of
30:37
us are numbed out and
30:39
gluttonous and greedy. We're suffering.
30:41
And we're waking up, because
30:43
where there is darkness, there
30:45
is always light. There is
30:48
always more light. So it's
30:50
inevitable. It's a fact. We
30:52
are rising. I can feel
30:54
us loving with a new
30:56
kind of urgency. We're getting
30:59
deeper. And we're getting deeper.
31:01
So some of us are
31:03
going to live according to
31:05
our spirit guides or to
31:07
the Kabbalah. Some of us
31:10
will live according to the
31:12
Tao. Are two ecstatic poetry.
31:14
Some of us going to
31:16
go to spin class, we're
31:18
going to study scripture, we're
31:21
going to drink green juice
31:23
all day long, we're going
31:25
to do yin, we're going
31:27
to make some love, we're
31:29
going to marathon, we are
31:31
going to mother, we are
31:34
going to dance, we are
31:36
going to four count, breathe
31:38
our way to higher love.
31:40
So I don't think we're
31:42
gambling on this spiritual thing
31:45
paying off, not us. I
31:47
think an infinite, infinite number
31:49
of us are all in
31:51
and we are answering the
31:53
call to double down on
31:56
loving kindness. And this is
31:58
going to require. a
32:00
devotional refresh, some simplifying
32:02
so that we can
32:04
expand. So here's the
32:07
spiritual essential. It's not
32:09
how we seek spiritual
32:11
growth. You can practice
32:13
in any way that
32:15
your heart calls you
32:17
to practice. We need
32:19
to examine the why
32:21
behind the practice. Our
32:23
spiritual fulfillment stems from
32:25
our motives. Are those
32:27
motives coming from the
32:29
ego? or from the
32:31
soul. We do not need
32:34
to focus on fixing ourselves.
32:36
You do not need to
32:39
fix yourself. Just focus on
32:41
living from your heart, from
32:44
love, and anything that's not
32:46
in alignment with that loving
32:49
kindness, that light, it's gonna
32:51
fall away. Hey,
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35:17
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35:19
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35:21
natural, I mean you
35:23
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35:25
your nose. Mouth is
35:27
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35:29
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35:31
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35:35
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35:38
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35:40
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35:43
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35:45
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35:47
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35:50
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35:52
All right. Let's talk
35:55
about devotion, specifically about
35:57
devotion and comparison. specifically
35:59
about letting go of
36:02
comparing your spiritual path
36:04
to anybody else's spiritual path
36:07
because that's just crazy
36:09
making. This was my personal
36:11
trip for a long time
36:13
and it was extra trippy
36:15
because I was always comparing
36:17
my path to like the
36:19
spiritual extremists, the radicalists, right?
36:21
So I wasn't looking at
36:23
what the householders were doing
36:25
and the moms. But, you
36:27
know, I would look at
36:29
like these aesthetic Hindus offering
36:31
up their entire existence in
36:33
prayer and pilgrimage and just
36:36
drive myself bonkers with my
36:38
level of dedication. It's
36:40
like, I'd look at the Sadus.
36:42
Anybody know about the Sadus? These,
36:44
um, these guys who live off...
36:46
really the alms, the
36:48
generosity of the community.
36:51
Dreadlocked, body painted, loincloth,
36:53
long nails, you know,
36:55
and they do these
36:58
extreme physical acts in
37:00
order to transcend their bodies.
37:02
They tie a cloth on
37:04
the end of their penis
37:06
and hang bricks off of
37:09
it. Hardcore. And so I
37:11
would like criticize myself for
37:13
wanting like a softer yoga
37:15
mat. Question my whole pain
37:18
tolerance. I would look into
37:20
like orthodox monks who kneel
37:22
for so long on cliffs
37:24
and outcroppings of rocks that
37:27
they become crippled and think
37:29
wow I really need to
37:31
give her you know. And then I
37:33
look at my own community. My
37:35
friend who gave up sugar for
37:37
a year she did not even
37:40
have catch up. How can you live?
37:42
spiritual life without catch-up. And
37:44
I would just feel guilty for every
37:46
time open the fridge, vegan, not vegan,
37:49
all the things. If I wasn't chanting
37:51
in my car, I felt like I
37:53
wasn't making the most of my drive
37:55
time, you know. I understand. I
37:57
think I understand. How... renouncing
38:01
the ego and bodily
38:03
form is very useful
38:05
at potentially attaining enlightenment,
38:07
you know, to truly
38:10
experience that we are
38:12
more than the senses
38:14
of seeing and feeling.
38:17
And that's really where we're
38:19
all headed. So to let go
38:21
of all of these
38:23
desirous fixations, all these
38:26
body limitations. to let
38:28
go of seeing yourself
38:30
as biologically located, that's
38:32
a great aspiration. And
38:34
I suspect that in some other
38:37
incarnation, I have been one
38:39
of those monks on their knees
38:41
to the point of being crippled.
38:43
Okay, so I'm about to name
38:46
drop to tell you a story.
38:48
I had a private meeting
38:50
with His Holiness, the Dalai
38:52
Lama. It was myself and
38:54
five other friends we'd all
38:57
travel to Dharamsala in India
38:59
and he spoke so sweetly
39:01
about your path being the
39:03
path and if you're Buddhist
39:06
just be Buddhist and if
39:08
you're born Catholic just be
39:10
Catholic the whole point of
39:12
any path is that you
39:15
get to loving kindness and
39:17
it really had me rethink
39:19
the romanticism of looking
39:21
outside of really my
39:24
lot in life, my spiritual
39:26
lot in life. So I'm
39:28
a householder and I'm a
39:30
mom and I'm an entrepreneur
39:33
and I'm a spiritual mutt
39:35
and I love my male
39:37
partner and I love being
39:39
a mom and I
39:41
earn money and sometimes
39:44
I'm vegan and sometimes
39:46
I'm vegan and sometimes
39:48
I'm vegan and sometimes
39:50
I'm vegan and sometimes
39:52
I'm not. Jesus, the
39:55
Christ, is the
39:57
love of my life.
40:00
I dig Netflix and
40:02
chocolate and this is
40:04
my path and I
40:06
am convinced that compassion
40:08
is the new way. The human
40:10
is the holy and the soul
40:13
is animating our bodies,
40:15
our lives. I'm always
40:17
really grateful when I
40:20
come across stories of
40:22
spiritual characters who have
40:25
actually stepped out of
40:27
the bounds of their spiritual
40:30
sect in really life affirming
40:32
ways like very inspired by
40:34
Thomas Merton Because I thought
40:37
he was really hot. I
40:39
love a hot monk He
40:41
was this really much respected
40:44
Trappist monk and American
40:46
and he fell in love
40:48
with a nurse who was
40:50
tending to him and I
40:52
read a lot about his
40:54
romantic religious struggle which I
40:56
can really relate to.
40:58
He talked about how
41:00
humbled and confused he
41:02
was by what he
41:04
called his weakness, his
41:06
vulnerability, his passion, and he
41:09
ended their relationship
41:11
and committed himself,
41:14
recommitted himself to his
41:16
vows. I read lots of
41:18
stories about nuns who left
41:21
the convent for romantic love.
41:23
I was in my 12th year. 10th,
41:26
12th year of really
41:28
devout vegetarianism. When I
41:30
heard that the Dalai
41:32
Lama himself, lifelong vegetarian,
41:34
had started eating beef
41:36
at his doctor's insistence,
41:38
really made me want a
41:40
cheeseburger. A good friend of mine
41:43
was on a retreat with a
41:45
Zen Roshi who just given apparently
41:47
this genius teaching on the purity
41:49
of the mind and on the
41:51
break she caught him sneak in
41:53
a smoke behind the temple and
41:55
he was totally unfazed and he
41:57
just struck took another drag off
41:59
a sick it and said to
42:01
her, you know, you can't
42:03
take any of it too
42:06
seriously. That I think was
42:08
probably the best takeaway of
42:10
that workshop. So what I
42:12
know in my bones is
42:14
that for most of us,
42:17
the greatest growth comes from
42:19
that mucky fertile mess, beautiful
42:21
chaos called relationships. And when
42:23
you do the hard work,
42:25
the beautiful work of loving
42:28
someone, the way they deserve
42:30
to be loved, you got
42:32
it. You're on the path.
42:34
When you go down into
42:36
the sensuality of being present,
42:39
you're on the path. When
42:41
you get into the surprising
42:43
amount of self-hatred that you
42:45
are going to find in
42:47
the basement of your psyche.
42:50
You're there. When you get
42:52
into the suffering of feeling
42:54
helpless, when you get into
42:56
the toxicity and the ignorance
42:58
of social structures, you're on
43:01
the path. When you show
43:03
up to help yourself and
43:05
to help others, you're on
43:07
the path. My experience has
43:09
been that my life, as
43:12
much as I've wanted to
43:14
ascend, you know, the everyday,
43:16
the relationships, just wrench me
43:18
back down. back into my
43:20
body back into my home
43:23
just like a million other
43:25
homes a zillion other people
43:27
on earth those homes and
43:29
our lives filled with minutiae
43:31
and temperaments and just you
43:34
know soft Tiny experiences of
43:36
both joy and pain so
43:38
all the practices the meditation
43:40
We're going to talk about
43:42
it. The yoga, the eating
43:45
clean. You might find that
43:47
with some of your practices.
43:49
there's going to be this
43:51
push-pull, you know, this despise
43:53
and adore, just like with
43:56
all of our relationships, right?
43:58
You're going to be curious
44:00
about, you're going to lean
44:02
in, and then you're going
44:05
to resist. And I find
44:07
that for some spiritual practices,
44:09
my resistance is really an
44:11
indicator of that's not my
44:13
right practice. And then for
44:16
others, if I... Stay with
44:18
it. Don't leave before the
44:20
opening. That resistance of the
44:22
practice melts into affection. And
44:24
that affection melts into commitment.
44:27
So if we can just
44:29
get on the same page
44:31
for a second and all
44:33
agree that some form of
44:35
contemplation is good. That moving
44:38
your body and eating healthy
44:40
is potentially a spiritual calling.
44:42
I have some thoughts for
44:44
us on going prodigal with
44:46
your practices and then coming
44:49
home to the practice. All
44:51
right, so for a lot
44:53
of us, we don't really
44:55
give enough credibility to the
44:57
spiritual practices we are already
45:00
doing. We can identify, we
45:02
can see that, oh, some
45:04
of the things I'm doing
45:06
are actually very ritualistic and
45:08
meaningful. You know, a lot
45:11
of us have regular habits
45:13
that are... bringing us closer
45:15
to the soul, to the
45:17
light. And we should declare
45:19
those for what they are.
45:22
They are spiritual rituals. It
45:24
could just be that quiet
45:26
moment that you give yourself
45:28
before you head into a
45:30
meeting, you know, that breath
45:33
you take before you pivot.
45:35
What you're really doing there
45:37
is maybe communing with your
45:39
higher guidance, you know. It
45:41
could be that girl time
45:44
you have in your living
45:46
room with hummus and olives
45:48
and laughs, like women who
45:50
have been gathering intents and
45:52
temples for millennia. Could be
45:55
working in the garden. You
45:57
are serving Mother Gaia. It
46:00
might be important to you
46:02
what you call your practice,
46:04
you know? Maybe you're not
46:06
a quote meditator, but I'm
46:09
going to try and compel
46:11
you into meditation later on.
46:13
But every morning, maybe you
46:15
sit down and you read
46:17
scriptures with your girl gray
46:19
tea, or you're writing in
46:21
your journal. That is a
46:24
contemplative practice. You could call
46:26
it that. Might inspire you
46:28
to keep doing it. Maybe
46:30
prayer is more your style.
46:32
and call it a prayer
46:34
practice because it is. And
46:36
then we keep in mind
46:39
as we walk our path,
46:41
there's no competition. So I've
46:43
been doing yoga on and
46:45
off, this is the operative
46:47
term here, on and off
46:49
for 30 years. And I
46:52
have not, well except for
46:54
one time, what I was
46:56
gonna say was I have
46:58
never attended an advanced level
47:00
class. And that's not because
47:02
I have progress so far
47:04
on my own is because,
47:07
you know, I'm like a
47:09
permab beginner. There was the
47:11
one time I misread the
47:13
schedule and I accidentally attended
47:15
this advance class. It was
47:17
like, it was so hilarious
47:19
because it was so humiliating.
47:22
Anyway, that's my yoga path.
47:24
Nobody else. Not even your
47:26
spiritual teacher or director. No
47:28
one can quantify the value
47:30
of your practices for you.
47:32
It's totally up to us,
47:35
right? You might get more
47:37
out of a one-time silent
47:39
retreat than another practitioner gets
47:41
from months years of meditation.
47:43
This might just be how
47:45
you're built wired and blessed,
47:47
right? One sincere prayer for
47:50
one of us could be
47:52
as effective as hours of
47:54
prostrations from another monk, someone
47:56
who needs to burn stuff
47:58
off, right? And remember. We
48:00
call it spiritual practice. It's
48:02
practice. It's about an ongoingness.
48:05
It's not about permanence. It's
48:07
not about perfection. There's a
48:09
sweet little story about Krishna
48:11
Murdi and one of his
48:13
students. Krishna Murdi, another hot
48:15
prophet that I really love,
48:18
the student said to him,
48:20
you know, teacher, I find
48:22
it impossible to be aware
48:24
all the time. And Krishna
48:26
Murdi said to him, well,
48:28
Don't be aware all the
48:30
time. Just be aware in
48:33
little bits. Little bits is
48:35
a spiritual path. So even
48:37
with steady devotion, like real
48:39
commitment to your growth, you
48:41
know, your practices are probably
48:43
going to ebb and flow.
48:45
It's like, you know, some
48:48
days you're going to be
48:50
riding high, you're going to
48:52
feel like, you know, you
48:54
are merging with Shiva himself.
48:56
You might be fasting and
48:58
you're feeling the pulse of
49:00
the higher realms. And you
49:03
know, on other days, you
49:05
are just going to be
49:07
doing what it takes to
49:09
not feel like shit. So
49:11
you got to be your
49:13
kind of devotee, your kind
49:16
of light worker. Worship what
49:18
you love and love the
49:20
way that you worship. Hey,
49:29
it's Jeff. So why
49:31
does our energy or
49:33
workout recovery or even
49:36
our joints start to
49:38
feel older in our
49:40
30s and 40s, and
49:42
when you're 54, like
49:44
me? Well, a big
49:46
reason for this is
49:48
senescent cell accumulation. Senescent
49:50
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49:52
as zombie cells, because
49:54
they linger in your
49:56
body long after their
49:58
useful function, wasting your
50:00
energy and nutrition. and
50:02
contributing to many forms
50:04
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50:06
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50:08
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51:07
left to my day-to-day,
51:09
a singing kettle. It's
51:11
my boy singing. It's...
51:13
the hummingbirds and the
51:15
hummingbird feeder. It's hungry
51:17
bellies and hungry hearts
51:19
and it's the hungry
51:21
guy on the corner
51:23
of first and commercial.
51:25
It's making rice with
51:27
friends and it's love
51:29
notes and it's rapture
51:31
in the marketplace. It's
51:33
being aware of the
51:35
veins in my heart
51:37
and tunnels of choices.
51:39
everyone leading to the
51:41
light every single day.
51:43
And I walk my
51:45
path with both profundity
51:47
and practicality. And my
51:50
son, when he was
51:52
little, he flunked one
51:54
of his swim glasses.
51:56
And I was handing
51:58
my towel at the
52:00
community center pool, you
52:02
know, all shivering and
52:04
cranky. And I just
52:06
said, okay, honey, just
52:08
breathe in the light.
52:10
What color light do
52:12
you need? And he
52:14
said, Mom, praying about
52:16
green light is not
52:18
going to make me
52:20
feel any better. Please
52:22
just get my backpack
52:24
and let's go home.
52:26
Got it. That's
52:28
practical spirituality. And after years
52:31
of wanting to ascend, I'm
52:33
just really grateful to be
52:35
here. And I hope you
52:37
can say the same. So
52:40
how do we nourish our
52:42
devotion? How do you double
52:44
down? How do you confirm
52:46
your commitment? I think it
52:49
begins with devoting to the
52:51
higher ideal. It's just it's
52:53
this commitment. I want to
52:55
embody loving kindness. You want
52:58
to bring those virtues through.
53:00
And then the devotion, the
53:02
path, is going to take
53:04
on a more specific expression.
53:07
The so-called life purpose is
53:09
bigger and the specificity of
53:11
that begins to take shape.
53:13
So, so, commit to the
53:16
higher and the goal. starts
53:18
to make itself known. So
53:20
I'm committed to compassion. Oh,
53:22
then maybe my life purpose
53:25
is about protecting animals or
53:27
employing people who make delightful
53:29
things or I'm committed to
53:31
Inclusive love divine love going
53:34
to get to know my
53:36
neighbors. I'm going to work
53:38
on healing land masses. I'm
53:40
going to do community work.
53:43
You see the big filters
53:45
through to the micro. How
53:47
do you keep going with
53:49
your devotion? Buddhist nun, Pamichodron,
53:52
always in a very warm,
53:54
plain-speaking way, talks about how
53:56
many of us spend years
53:58
taking good care of ourselves
54:01
and we do the exercise
54:03
and we do the diet
54:05
regimes and we get our
54:07
massages. and we do the
54:10
spiritual practices and all the
54:12
various forms of meditation, but
54:14
when we're really challenged by
54:16
life, we still don't have
54:19
that true self-love to draw
54:21
on. She says, all those
54:23
years don't seem to have
54:25
added up to the inner
54:28
strength and kindness for themselves
54:30
that they need to relate
54:32
with what's happening. When we
54:34
start to develop unconditional acceptance
54:37
of ourselves, then we really
54:39
start taking care of ourselves
54:41
in a way that pays
54:43
off. A way that builds
54:46
inner strength instead of outer
54:48
dependencies. Really, take this in,
54:50
if you can, a way
54:52
that builds inner strength instead
54:55
of outer dependencies. That's why
54:57
we're here to get clear
54:59
on what our spiritual essentials
55:01
are. a way that expands
55:04
us, a spiritual path that
55:06
expands us so that we
55:08
can accommodate more pain and
55:10
more joy. A way that
55:13
actually grows us doesn't contract
55:15
us, doesn't punish us. You
55:17
know, deep growth happens when
55:19
self-care is a celebration of
55:22
our goodness and value. That's
55:24
really the thesis of spiritual
55:26
essentials. You know, I'm not
55:28
interested in supporting spiritual growth.
55:31
That's a fixation on what
55:33
needs to be fixed. I'm
55:35
interested in a life affirming
55:37
attentiveness that steers us inward
55:40
for the answer. Because I
55:42
think what happens? when you
55:44
are looking to the heart
55:46
is eventually you're going to
55:49
stop looking for signs outside
55:51
from the universe, you know,
55:53
signs from the universe that
55:55
we're loved and we're smart.
55:58
We look within and then
56:00
we... find signs everywhere, inside
56:02
and outside, that we are
56:04
love itself. We're gonna give
56:07
it again. We do not,
56:09
you do not need to
56:11
focus on fixing yourself. We
56:13
focus on living from the
56:16
heart and anything that is
56:18
not in alignment with that
56:20
light just begins to fall
56:22
away. Okay, this would not
56:25
be a program on... spiritual
56:27
essentials unless we brought in
56:29
some H.P. Blavatski, Helena Blavatski.
56:31
Beautiful quote on the science,
56:34
really the science of surrender.
56:36
So this is from her
56:38
way out there book called
56:40
The Secret Doctrine. She said,
56:43
the Lord Buddha has said,
56:45
that we must not believe
56:47
a thing said merely because
56:49
it is said, nor traditions
56:52
because they have been handed
56:54
down from antiquity, nor writings
56:56
by sages, nor the mere
56:58
authority of our teachers or
57:01
masters. But we are to
57:03
believe when the writing, the
57:05
doctrine, or the saying is
57:07
corroborated by our own reason
57:10
and consciousness. So we got
57:12
to talk about gurus. So,
57:14
guru is a Sanskrit word.
57:17
First half of it,
57:19
the goo means darkness.
57:21
It's the kind of
57:24
darkness where there is
57:26
no light. It's just
57:28
ignorance and confusion. Goo.
57:30
Goo darkness. Roo means
57:32
light. The light in
57:34
which there is no
57:36
darkness. The opposite of
57:38
darkness. Light and clarity.
57:40
So your guru sandwich,
57:42
the definition means to
57:45
light the darkness, to
57:47
light the darkness. Someone
57:49
who teaches how darkness
57:51
can be illumined, a
57:53
master who sheds light
57:55
on your... density, your
57:57
ignorance, your lack of
57:59
wisdom. By the way,
58:01
I learned about this
58:04
definition from Goudu Singh.
58:06
He's a third generation
58:08
American yogi, one of
58:10
my dearest friends. And
58:12
Goudu Singh and I
58:14
have had lots of
58:16
conversations about the dynamics
58:18
of devotion. We really
58:20
got into the topic
58:22
of Goudu's, Gouda type
58:25
figures and what I
58:27
would consider, you know,
58:29
blind devotion. So, you
58:31
know, my question to
58:33
him was, does devotion,
58:35
really true devotion, require
58:37
that one give themselves
58:39
over to another person's
58:41
authority? Because, come on,
58:44
that cannot be right,
58:46
you know. And of
58:48
course, Gouda saying, you
58:50
know, gets the drift,
58:52
he always gets the
58:54
drift. He talks about
58:56
devotion being the science
58:58
of surrender. It's a
59:00
state without blocks or
59:02
barriers. Devotion isn't directed
59:05
toward any one person
59:07
or anything. And when
59:09
you don't have those
59:11
barriers, when you're not
59:13
fixated on the leader,
59:15
when you're really open
59:17
in your devotion, then
59:19
what happens with openness?
59:21
You absorb all the
59:24
knowledge that is available
59:26
from that moment, from
59:28
that when you're in
59:30
a state of devotion
59:32
you have way fewer
59:34
defenses and therefore you
59:36
absorb things more absolutely
59:38
more fully which is
59:40
to say it's not
59:43
so much about the
59:45
guru themselves it's a
59:47
lot bigger than that
59:49
and this is really
59:51
I think A paradigm-busting
59:53
concept for a lot
59:55
of worshippers. who have
59:57
hung their hopes on
59:59
being illuminated by a
1:00:01
singular master or thinking
1:00:04
that any individual in
1:00:06
human form has all
1:00:08
of the answers? Because
1:00:10
they don't. And I
1:00:12
also fully honor the
1:00:14
intimacy of the guru-disiple
1:00:16
relationship and how many...
1:00:18
true blessings that can
1:00:20
bring into one's consciousness
1:00:23
for sure. I mean
1:00:25
so many masters have
1:00:27
walked and do walk
1:00:29
this earth who are
1:00:31
vibrating the highest frequency
1:00:33
of divine love. What
1:00:35
a blessing to encounter
1:00:37
them. But we have
1:00:39
to consider like the
1:00:41
subtleties of the guru
1:00:44
follower relationship. Because I
1:00:46
don't think that that
1:00:48
dynamic is going to
1:00:50
be the hallmark of
1:00:52
the age of Aquarius.
1:00:54
I think it's one
1:00:56
of the structures that
1:00:58
is being disassembled. You
1:01:00
know, gurus and spiritual
1:01:03
authorities are typically positioned
1:01:05
to be the recipients
1:01:07
of the wisdom that
1:01:09
the normies don't have
1:01:11
access to and to
1:01:13
be the dispensers of
1:01:15
that wisdom. And so,
1:01:17
you know, obviously this
1:01:19
is going to create
1:01:21
this setup where the
1:01:24
devotee needs to be
1:01:26
deemed worthy of receiving
1:01:28
the wisdom. But there
1:01:30
is wisdom to be
1:01:32
gleaned from everywhere if
1:01:34
one's heart is open.
1:01:36
So that guru-disiple relationship
1:01:38
can position people on
1:01:40
the outside of their
1:01:43
own wisdom. divine love
1:01:45
even. And that creates
1:01:47
a setup for us
1:01:49
trying to earn our
1:01:51
way in. And that
1:01:53
is the spiritual striving
1:01:55
that I myself am
1:01:57
working to do. that
1:01:59
we are gathered here
1:02:02
in spiritual essentials to
1:02:04
try and melt away,
1:02:06
you know? Trying to
1:02:08
earn your way in,
1:02:10
earn divine favor, earn
1:02:12
access, earn the blessing
1:02:14
is a very different
1:02:16
energy than intentionally, consciously
1:02:18
opening ourselves up to
1:02:20
more knowledge that can
1:02:23
definitely be dispensed by
1:02:25
great masters, right? So
1:02:27
that former way of
1:02:29
earning is externally motivated
1:02:31
and this latter way
1:02:33
that I'm talking about
1:02:35
is internally inspired. You
1:02:37
know, you feel your
1:02:39
own flame and you
1:02:42
want to join your
1:02:44
light with others. Way
1:02:46
different way of living.
1:02:48
Working, working for approval.
1:02:50
takes up a lot
1:02:52
of energy. It doesn't
1:02:54
matter whether you're trying
1:02:56
to get the approval
1:02:58
from your athletic coach
1:03:00
or your business coach
1:03:03
or your guru. It
1:03:05
can be a huge
1:03:07
distraction from seeing the
1:03:09
gifts that you already
1:03:11
hold in your own
1:03:13
being. an imagination practice.
1:03:15
We're going to see
1:03:17
ourselves in the presence
1:03:19
of a guru, okay?
1:03:22
So see yourself sitting
1:03:24
in front of a
1:03:26
truly great, spiritually gifted
1:03:28
master, an avatar, a
1:03:30
guru. It can be
1:03:32
someone from history. It
1:03:34
can be someone you
1:03:36
know. It could be
1:03:38
an angelic deity that
1:03:40
you imagine. And you're
1:03:43
facing them. You're in
1:03:45
silence. Your eyes are
1:03:47
closed. All right. And
1:03:49
now, imagine that you're...
1:03:51
trying to earn something
1:03:53
from them in their
1:03:55
presence. You want, you're
1:03:57
craving for this blessing.
1:03:59
So you're probably projecting
1:04:02
out this energy that,
1:04:04
you know, it's like,
1:04:06
see me. You see
1:04:08
me? I'm worshiping you.
1:04:10
I'm here sitting at
1:04:12
your feet. Can you
1:04:14
feel my goodness? Can't
1:04:16
you feel how earnest
1:04:18
I am? So please
1:04:20
bless me. Do you
1:04:23
feel me? And that
1:04:25
cloying kind of anxiety.
1:04:27
is arising in you.
1:04:29
You know, so you're
1:04:31
pulling for attention. You
1:04:33
want your hunger for
1:04:35
approval, which by the
1:04:37
way is a very
1:04:39
human inclination. You want
1:04:42
to feed your hunger
1:04:44
for approval. And you
1:04:46
focus, you're focusing on
1:04:48
how much you want
1:04:50
to be given something.
1:04:52
You're really in a
1:04:54
state of lack. And
1:04:57
this is the exhaustion formula,
1:05:00
right? This creates fatigue, really
1:05:02
messes, that clinging, see me,
1:05:04
see me, really messes with
1:05:06
your ability to concentrate. And
1:05:09
I think that reaching is
1:05:11
going to block your ability
1:05:13
to receive that which you
1:05:15
want most. The blessings are
1:05:17
meant for you. There are
1:05:20
so many blessings to be
1:05:22
given and received by all
1:05:24
of us to each other.
1:05:29
All right, take a
1:05:31
breath. We're going to
1:05:33
shift the energy. So
1:05:35
you're still with this
1:05:37
great illuminated figure, right?
1:05:39
But you're going to
1:05:41
shift your intention of
1:05:44
getting attention, right? So
1:05:46
you're just sitting across
1:05:48
from this great being
1:05:50
and you're not trying
1:05:52
to get anything from
1:05:54
them. There is an
1:05:56
inkling. of a sense
1:05:58
of equality. You're
1:06:02
not seeking approval. You
1:06:05
don't need any information.
1:06:07
You just simply open.
1:06:10
In fact, the intensity
1:06:12
of your devotion is
1:06:15
actually a devotion to
1:06:17
be open. Your energy
1:06:20
is saying like, I'm
1:06:23
here to be open.
1:06:25
I open to this.
1:06:28
This is surrender, the
1:06:30
capital. surrender. You're present.
1:06:33
You're spacious. You have
1:06:35
a kind of faithful
1:06:38
awareness. And then what
1:06:40
happens? You can receive
1:06:43
whatever wants to be
1:06:45
given to you. And
1:06:48
what's even more beautiful
1:06:50
and important is you
1:06:53
can sense that what
1:06:56
you're receiving already exists
1:06:58
within you. Right?
1:07:00
This openness enables the exchange
1:07:03
of power. No one can
1:07:05
give you fire to Kerry.
1:07:08
But when the conditions are
1:07:10
right, they can stoke the
1:07:13
fire that's already inside you.
1:07:15
You, your light, you're the
1:07:18
guru. What are we surrendering
1:07:20
to ultimately? We're surrendering to
1:07:23
the opportunity. to become more
1:07:25
of our selves, more aware
1:07:27
of our own Buddha nature,
1:07:30
of our divine essence. There's
1:07:32
going to be some power
1:07:35
struggles if you bring in
1:07:37
masters, right? Devotion, power, leader,
1:07:40
follower, so much can go
1:07:42
wrong. There are spiritual superhumans.
1:07:45
I would stay away from
1:07:47
them. And there are luminous
1:07:50
leaders. There are some people
1:07:52
who work for the light
1:07:55
and there are others who
1:07:57
say they're light workers but
1:07:59
they work in the shadows.
1:08:02
So I believe that there
1:08:04
are skilled esoteric technicians who
1:08:07
can pull objects out of
1:08:09
thin air and out of
1:08:12
your body, gold chains and
1:08:14
tumors and otherwise. And it's
1:08:17
not with that kind of
1:08:19
you know David Copperfield a
1:08:22
slight of hand, but it
1:08:24
is through the true manipulation
1:08:27
of energy and dimensions where
1:08:29
some people know how to
1:08:31
bring the abstract into dense
1:08:34
formation. And in keeping with
1:08:36
that, I wholeheartedly believe that
1:08:39
there are gifted humans who
1:08:41
do things that we consider
1:08:44
magical and miraculous, walking through
1:08:46
walls and by locating and
1:08:49
performing psychic surgery and curing
1:08:51
the supposedly incurable, multidimensional manipulation,
1:08:54
highly possible, inexplicable so-called miracles.
1:08:56
Yes. Magnificent, yes. the work
1:08:59
of darkness. Just because someone
1:09:01
can create so-called miracles does
1:09:03
not mean that they have
1:09:06
pure intentions. I mean, ideally,
1:09:08
we're finding someone who can
1:09:11
bend time, space, and matter,
1:09:13
and is doing that on
1:09:16
behalf of the benefit of
1:09:18
all beings. It's coming from
1:09:21
a place of love. Doesn't
1:09:23
always work that way. Metaphysical
1:09:26
skill. does not guarantee spiritual
1:09:28
integrity. Buy or beware. There
1:09:31
are some very well-branded apparent
1:09:33
light workers who are just
1:09:35
darkness peddlers in disguise. They
1:09:38
know how to plug into
1:09:40
other people's energy. and they
1:09:43
get a boost for themselves.
1:09:45
So they can create a
1:09:48
healing effect for the person
1:09:50
they're working on, but they're
1:09:53
siphoning a bit, you know?
1:09:55
It's like, I really love
1:09:58
this piece from Nietzsche, he
1:10:00
said, they muddy the waters
1:10:03
to make it seem deep.
1:10:05
So with those kind of
1:10:08
characters, you know, you might
1:10:10
get healed in one area
1:10:12
of your body or life.
1:10:15
But then something else goes
1:10:17
wrong elsewhere. It's like supercharging
1:10:20
a car battery, but draining
1:10:22
the oil at the same
1:10:25
time, you know? You get
1:10:27
this injection of energy, but
1:10:30
something's not quite right after
1:10:32
that with the overall system.
1:10:35
So what I'm getting at
1:10:37
is you don't need to
1:10:40
let the mad metaphysical skills
1:10:42
impress you necessarily. Great healing
1:10:44
and... Insight capacities are exquisite
1:10:47
yes for sure, but we
1:10:49
have to peer around the
1:10:52
curtain, if we can, to
1:10:54
see if the wizard's intentions
1:10:57
are pure of heart. It's
1:10:59
tricky stuff in this space.
1:11:02
Quality is really hard to
1:11:04
identify. You have to learn
1:11:07
to see with both your
1:11:09
heart and your intellect, right?
1:11:12
And then you need to
1:11:14
commit to your faith. while
1:11:16
still questioning ceaselessly. But really,
1:11:19
that's the function of faith,
1:11:21
you know. You don't need
1:11:24
faith if you have no
1:11:26
doubts. What's the function of
1:11:29
doubt to bolster your faith?
1:11:31
It's a good thing to
1:11:34
have doubts along the way.
1:11:36
And the bottom line is
1:11:39
that it's more important for
1:11:41
you to believe in your
1:11:44
powers of discernment than to
1:11:46
believe in someone else's healing
1:11:48
powers. We're all human. even
1:11:51
the great healers, of which
1:11:53
I have been blessed by
1:11:56
many in my life. So
1:11:58
on one hand, you know,
1:12:01
is having flaws and falling
1:12:03
into temptation and having a
1:12:06
big ego. Does that make
1:12:08
you a fraud as a
1:12:11
healer? No, not necessarily. Just
1:12:13
makes you human. This is
1:12:16
another thing. Lots of flawed
1:12:18
individual with true gifts coming
1:12:20
from a heart center place.
1:12:23
Nobody is perfect. So we
1:12:25
shouldn't expect our heroes or
1:12:28
our healers to be perfect
1:12:30
either. You know, we put
1:12:33
gurus and spiritual leaders on
1:12:35
pedestals. Really, I think, out
1:12:38
of weakness, human weakness, hope
1:12:40
of being rescued from the
1:12:43
mess that we're in. But
1:12:45
we all know that there
1:12:48
are some religious leaders who
1:12:50
are lovely, but they get
1:12:52
carried away with, you know,
1:12:55
the luxury living, human. Some
1:12:57
cultural revolutionaries. break their vows
1:13:00
of fidelity, human, lots of
1:13:02
yogis and yoginis, who have
1:13:05
very dark and disembodied days,
1:13:07
human, holy, humans. So does
1:13:10
this mean that the perfectly
1:13:12
spiritual humanitarian role model does
1:13:15
not exist? Yes, that's exactly
1:13:17
what this means. So how
1:13:20
can we have grace? for
1:13:22
the humanity of spiritual leaders,
1:13:25
while at the same time
1:13:27
holding them to impeccable standards.
1:13:29
We need to make dignity
1:13:32
and grace part of our
1:13:34
intention. We also need to
1:13:37
make our definitions of leader
1:13:39
and follower and sage and
1:13:42
seeker a lot more malleable
1:13:44
because we are all both.
1:13:47
It's essential to have visionaries
1:13:49
in the lead, but we
1:13:52
need to expect more from
1:13:54
ourselves and in some respects
1:13:57
we need to expect less
1:13:59
from those who are at
1:14:01
the so-called helm. Because when,
1:14:04
not if, but when our
1:14:06
leaders and gurus make a
1:14:09
misstep we have the wherewithal
1:14:11
to hold them accountable and
1:14:14
then to uphold the vision
1:14:16
that we both shared and
1:14:19
to create a new vision
1:14:21
that we both shared a
1:14:24
new vision and to create
1:14:26
a new vision in its
1:14:29
place. And then there's the
1:14:31
violations, right? So what happens
1:14:33
when a spiritual leader violates
1:14:36
the sacred relationship that they
1:14:38
have with their followers? This
1:14:41
gets back to my conversation
1:14:43
with Goudou Singh and most,
1:14:46
you know, well-measured spiritual advisors.
1:14:48
There is a huge karmic
1:14:51
debt waiting for spiritual teachers
1:14:53
who exploit their students. You
1:14:56
know, Christians would call this
1:14:58
a special place in hell.
1:15:01
And if you've been on
1:15:03
the receiving end of that
1:15:05
kind of abuse of power,
1:15:08
I don't know, maybe this
1:15:10
is a kind of consolation,
1:15:13
karmic retribution. I have been
1:15:15
on the other side myself
1:15:18
of breached metaphysical trust. I
1:15:20
felt extreme rage because of
1:15:23
that. And eventually, when my
1:15:25
rage receded. I
1:15:27
was able to feel
1:15:30
a lot of compassion
1:15:32
for the astral felon
1:15:34
because they had sentenced
1:15:37
themselves to some serious
1:15:39
spiritual cleanup duty. They
1:15:41
had created a towering
1:15:44
list of amends to
1:15:46
make in this dimension
1:15:48
and others, and then
1:15:51
some. So holding leaders
1:15:53
accountable for destructive behavior
1:15:55
is... intense work. It
1:15:58
can tear communities and
1:16:00
families apart. Accountability. What
1:16:02
if we thought of
1:16:04
the whistleblower's and the
1:16:07
truth crusaders and some
1:16:09
of the activists as
1:16:11
healers? What if you
1:16:14
as a freedom seeker,
1:16:16
as a truth teller,
1:16:18
saw yourself as a
1:16:21
healer as a healer
1:16:23
as a healer, as
1:16:25
a healer, saw yourself
1:16:28
as a healer? And
1:16:30
then you just keep
1:16:32
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