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Knock it off you two. Hi, Mike. Welcome
2:14
to the show. Well,
2:16
thank you very much. Thank you for
2:18
having me. Hello, Mike. It's good to
2:20
talk to you. Tell us, Mike, where
2:22
are you talking to us from
2:24
right now? Where are you in the
2:27
world? I am in Lake Placid,
2:29
New York, up in the Adirondack Mountains.
2:31
We've been here before, but it's
2:33
a beautiful spot. I've been here for
2:35
about 20 years. I'm raising three
2:37
wonderful kids, and I get to work
2:39
out in the woods of the
2:41
Adirondack Mountains all time. This sounds kind
2:43
of perfect. I have been up
2:45
to Lake Placid. And of course, Lake
2:48
Placid, am I correct? Is that
2:50
the 1980 Winter Olympics in Lake Placid?
2:52
1980 and 1932. Yes. Okay. I
2:54
wasn't around for that one. If potentially
2:56
2026 for the sliding sports, we're
2:58
going to find out. Uh, I just
3:00
got the word about that. It's
3:02
not happening. Yeah. I'm
3:05
the first one they talked to. Yeah,
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I'll tell you later. It's a whole thing.
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I'm on the board. But, Oh,
3:13
those... Yeah, the sports where you lay still and
3:15
gravity does it all. Oh,
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come on. Well, I'm sorry, but it is.
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Just stay really still and you might get a
3:21
gold medal. Don't
3:23
move. Remember we just
3:26
had a Bob's letter on this? Oh, yeah.
3:28
That guy was full of shit. Hey,
3:31
I stayed really still and I won.
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Good for you, Bob's letter. Look,
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this got off to a bad
3:39
start and I apologize, Mike. But
3:41
I do think Lake Placid is a beautiful place.
3:44
And also, home of the Adirondack
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chair. I'm going to say the Adirondack
3:48
chair is the best outdoor wooden chair one
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can have. It gives you the most back
3:52
support. Hot take. Yeah. That's my hot take.
3:54
So, I know what's yours. So, not?
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I don't know very many others. Okay. Go
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ahead. So, Conan, why have you not used
4:01
the Adirondack chair for the summer s'mores then?
4:03
Well, we should have an Adirondack chair the next time
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we're outside. And I'm going to demand one. And
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then I want to keep it at
4:10
the end of the night, and I don't
4:12
want to pay for it I want
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it to be courtesy Which means basically it
4:16
ends up yeah, I know some people
4:18
who make Adirondack chair So if you decide
4:20
to go with it, I just think
4:22
that's a fantastic chair the Adirondack chair check
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it out The tell us what do
4:26
you do? What is your profession? How
4:28
do you make your way in this cruel world? I,
4:33
about 10 years ago, I founded a company
4:35
called the Forest Farmers. We, and
4:38
my business partners, we owned 10
4:40
,000 acres of forest land here
4:42
in the Adirondacks and Vermont. And
4:45
we collect sap from lots of
4:47
different tree species and turn it into
4:49
syrups and sugars and all sorts
4:51
of beverages and delicious food. So basically,
4:53
let me touch on the chase.
4:55
You're in the maple syrup business. Not
4:57
just maple syrup, but other tree
4:59
syrups as well. Yes. Maple syrup is
5:01
our number one thing. I didn't
5:03
know there were other tree syrups. What
5:05
other tree syrups are there? We
5:07
do birch, beech, and walnut. And there
5:09
is another five species that we
5:11
could do, but we're not in the
5:13
right part of the country to
5:15
do that. OK. I
5:17
don't. That's strange to me.
5:19
I mean, maple is the go
5:21
to. And it's suddenly
5:24
like you're saying, oh no,
5:26
there's another kind of Kleenex
5:28
other than Kleenex. There's
5:30
Zorzabar tissues. So
5:34
describe, what
5:36
does it taste like? How is it different
5:38
beach from maple? Or is that just an
5:40
impossible thing to describe? No,
5:43
no. So every different tree
5:45
syrup tastes a little bit different.
5:47
Some are very different than
5:49
others. And
5:51
it has to do, you know,
5:53
a lot of types of sugars that
5:56
are present in the sap and
5:58
then how you boil it down. And
6:00
so beach syrup tastes similar to
6:02
maple, but with more like a raisin
6:04
-y, fake type of complex to it.
6:06
Oh, interesting. I'm glad you asked
6:08
this because actually we have a syrup
6:10
taste test to go. I have
6:12
no palate. They don't... Let's bring
6:14
them in. We have... This is very exciting. here
6:16
that we're going to try. Syrups. This is fantastic. Yeah,
6:20
so I had sent syrup
6:22
for each of the three chill
6:24
chums. Oh, so they each
6:26
have a syrup. Oh, look at
6:28
that. This looks
6:30
like Jager Bob. That
6:34
is each, you know. Oh,
6:37
wait, should I wait till we do it?
6:39
Yeah, let's wait. Let's wait. OK, yeah. You can
6:41
take us through this, Mike. Oh, I see.
6:43
Each one, I understand. We don't
6:45
each get a plate. Each plate, yes. a
6:48
type. Move the plates to the middle. And
6:50
so you have your birch, you have your
6:52
maple. What's that one right over there?
6:55
This is pure maple.
6:57
Oh, man. That's maple walnut. a
6:59
pure maple, which is the traditional
7:02
one, and then a maple walnut.
7:04
OK, I think what we're going
7:06
to do is I just want
7:08
to have a few more questions
7:10
before we start tasting, which is
7:13
I know when I was a
7:15
kid, I was tasting
7:17
what I thought Was syrup but
7:19
it wasn't it was the
7:21
stuff that you get at the
7:23
supermarket Basically in the 60s
7:26
and 70s. We were lied to
7:28
What was I eating not
7:30
just the 60s and 70s? We're
7:32
continually being lied to like
7:34
the vast majority of people in
7:37
the US Consume
7:39
the fake stuff. You know the enchimima,
7:42
Mrs. Butterworth, log cabin, all that stuff.
7:44
So Mrs. Butterworth
7:47
is a liar, is what you're saying.
7:49
Does she not even exist? Was she a
7:51
real person? I saw
7:53
Mrs. Butterworth move on a kitchen table.
7:55
She's got to be real. I always
7:57
assume she was a very small person
8:00
whose body was filled with syrup. Yeah.
8:02
Yeah. Next, you're going to say, you
8:05
know, ego waffles aren't real waffles. OK,
8:07
let's not do that. I'm sorry. OK,
8:09
that's just slanderous. That's like saying there's
8:11
no Santa Claus. You're such a conspiracy
8:13
theorist. So anyway, that's just basically sugar
8:15
and what? What is it? Well,
8:17
it's corn syrup, high fructose corn syrup,
8:19
and an artificial maple flavoring. And a
8:21
bunch of preserves. What happened to this
8:23
country? This country was founded on
8:26
something important, and now we've lost our way.
8:28
But you're going to bring it back because
8:30
you're talking about real syrups. Syrups that come
8:32
Well, Conan, I know a
8:34
huge history buff. You bet I am. Civil
8:37
war. It's not just civil war.
8:39
Don't pigeonhole me. I know all
8:42
histories. Oh, no!
8:44
I think he got mad at me when I said
8:47
not when I said not just civil war. We
8:49
lost his connection We'll get it back. Don't worry. a
8:51
matter of time. This is tough because I
8:53
really want to drink these It looks so good.
8:55
There's something that can be good. Let's start
8:57
with the pure. Let's stir. Should we go ahead
8:59
and do it? No, no, we're gonna wait
9:01
until he comes back, but we can at least
9:03
distribute Okay, if I had access to this
9:05
much syrup I'd take a bath in it Oh,
9:07
I don't think would. I'm going to keep
9:10
that in. I'm going to keep that in the
9:12
podcast. We're not recording. We are still recording.
9:14
All right, for sure. But this
9:16
doesn't matter. The band's gone. I'm
9:18
going to put that. This guy
9:20
up in the northern reaches of New
9:22
York, who gets syrup out of
9:24
a tree, his computer went down. Big
9:26
shot. His computer is
9:28
made of balsa wood. It probably
9:30
runs on SAP. You
9:33
know, there's there's like
9:35
a Falcon. What's that? What
9:37
are you reading? I'm reading this thing.
9:39
There's this is dark, robust maple syrup
9:41
for Sona. Yeah. Since she is
9:43
traditional and sweet. Oh, that's nice. Oh, so
9:45
these are each tailored to us. Normal syrup that
9:47
Yeah, but all going to taste all of
9:49
them, I think. So the first one is the
9:51
pure maple. Can you read that again? Yours
9:53
is nutty. Probably real nutty. All right. Well, listen,
9:55
this gentleman is not with us at the
9:57
moment. Can you hear us? I don't think so.
10:00
He's not on yet. Well, I just think
10:02
this gentleman who we're talking to, Mike, who makes
10:04
the maple syrup, his connection has gone down.
10:06
Yeah. Because they don't think they have Wi -Fi
10:08
yet in Lake Placid, New York. And that's going
10:10
to cost them the Olympics if they can't
10:12
get it together. How
10:14
will people lose without Wi -Fi? Yeah.
10:16
Yeah. There's no way to lose. You
10:20
can't lose. It's
10:22
a no luge situation. Why
10:25
am I laughing so that? You're laughing because
10:27
the fumes from the syrup. Stupid. He'll be
10:29
back any time now. And you know what?
10:32
I don't know who sets these things up,
10:34
but I'm sure. They cheated. Is it Eduardo? Who
10:37
tests the signal? It's a team effort. Team
10:39
effort, I see. Well, that's a nice way to throw
10:41
people under the bus. I didn't say who is on
10:43
the team. I said, I'm part of the team. OK,
10:45
don't worry about it. And listen, you won't be blamed,
10:47
Aaron Blair. I'm sorry. for
10:50
okaying a connection that isn't there. Can we
10:52
send these people equipment? Is there
10:54
a way to get it? I took a sip. Oh,
10:56
you cheaters. I know. supposed to taste ahead of
10:58
time. I can't help it. It's really good. You
11:00
should just take a little, take a little. No,
11:02
I play by the rules. He's the older sibling
11:04
on Christmas morning that won't let us go look
11:06
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11:08
those days. Teacher, you forgot to
11:10
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11:13
you're back. I'm back. Hey, you're
11:15
good. And listen, Mike, I want you
11:17
to know that I take... for
11:19
that system going down. And when I
11:21
say I take responsibility, I mean
11:23
my bad team. I
11:25
think you're going to blame it on
11:27
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11:29
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11:32
a beast that screws everything everything everything up. up. up.
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so we're about to taste the, what's
16:43
just the first one we're tasting? Pure maple
16:45
syrup. Pure maple syrup. syrup. And
16:47
tell us, when was this harvested? What's the
16:49
best time to get that maple syrup? Is
16:51
it the winter? Well, actually the
16:53
best time is right now. We're in
16:55
the middle of maple season. Let's taste
16:57
it right now. No doubt about it,
16:59
yes. That's
17:02
delicious. Good, good. That
17:04
is heaven. That is so good. is
17:06
so good. The texture. Oh
17:09
my god, it's just like Mrs.
17:11
Butterworth. There's something so wonderful about drinking
17:13
out of a shot glass, too.
17:15
Well, again, that feeds into your alcoholism.
17:17
It sure does. I can't take
17:19
too much of it straight. Wow, Sona. I
17:21
know. I don't know how you do it. I
17:24
just have a little taste. I'm a
17:26
hummingbird. I will just drink nectar. That
17:29
is fantastic. That is, I
17:31
mean, the taste, the texture. Well, because it's
17:33
not the fake stuff, right? So. the fake
17:35
stuff is what people are used to, but
17:37
when you get the real thing, it's, you
17:39
know, that much better. Yeah. Yeah. Once you've
17:41
had, hey, once I've had this, you can't
17:43
go back, you know? I can't go back.
17:45
I'm going to go Well, you have two
17:48
others to try. All right. What's the next
17:50
one you want us to try? There's
17:52
Maple Walnut and then there's Birch. Well,
17:54
okay. Okay. So Birch is much different
17:56
than Maple. Maple Walnut. Very similar to
17:58
maple. It's just let's do that. Well,
18:01
I can't talk about it because you
18:03
guys okay? Let's do me. we supposed
18:05
to clear our palate like with some?
18:08
Oh, yeah, take a little water. Maybe
18:10
just take a little sip of water.
18:12
Oh, yeah, okay. Sure. Yeah Let's read
18:14
the description here maple walnut syrup Matt
18:16
syrup is made from the sap of
18:18
maple and walnut trees It's mostly sweet,
18:20
but just a tad just a tad
18:22
but nutty and Excuse me. I'm just
18:24
reading what he wrote. In honor of
18:26
Professor Gorely, thank you, Mike. Conan,
18:29
you go screw. Go screw. OK,
18:31
here we go. Oh, my. Oh,
18:33
I really like that. I
18:35
can taste the difference. I can taste
18:37
the walnut. So good. Oh, that is
18:39
so good. I love that you have
18:42
the walnut. The walnutty. It's got that
18:44
just little nutty sound. Yeah,
18:46
nuts. for
18:48
Gorely, because everybody loves Gorely, right? Fast
18:51
around. Who are you asking? Thank
18:53
you. Thank you, Mike. Thank you. Were
18:55
you chatting up a bear in
18:58
the woods? An elk come by?
19:00
I'm sorry. I like gorelly. Oh,
19:02
I'm so happy. Oh, yeah. Oh,
19:04
my God. I really got to say
19:06
I love drinking myself there. That's
19:08
just, it's staying in there. She's so
19:10
thick. Yeah. She's thick. So,
19:13
can Jesus, look at her go.
19:15
I just want to... You're like a... You're a
19:17
monster. I'm so happy. You're
19:20
not even drinking all it. I can't. I can't
19:22
take that much pure... That's a lot of syrup,
19:24
yeah. I can't do it. You don't need to
19:26
drink it all. Yeah. I like to get little
19:28
taste, you know? No problem. You're the person that
19:30
goes to the wine tasting and just drains the
19:32
whole bottle. It's true. And they say, know,
19:34
you spit in this barrel and then you drink out of
19:36
the barrel. Oh, this
19:38
smells very different. So,
19:40
Conan, it's very different. And this one
19:43
is definitely for you, Conan. This is
19:45
for Conan, since it's made from very
19:47
tall white birch trees. And
19:49
this syrup has a reddish hue. It
19:51
is sweetened, fruity, but
19:53
slightly acidic with very
19:55
unique flavors. That
19:57
is me. This is a good description of me.
19:59
Oh, man, I'm so happy. As
20:01
birch syrup gonna catch on, do you think?
20:03
I hope so. If I have a great
20:05
spokesperson. Oh, no.
20:11
Oh, no. Oh, my. No.
20:14
This is me. Well, you're not supposed to
20:16
have, no, you're not supposed to have birch
20:18
syrup on its own. So I was going
20:20
to try to, like, warn
20:22
you that, like, people just don't drink
20:24
birch syrup. Like, you wouldn't just,
20:26
like, a balsamic vinaigrette. You know I
20:28
mean? Oh, OK. Okay, so
20:30
it's used in cooking like it's
20:32
not like something you pour in
20:34
pancakes When you have a little
20:37
bit why did you tell us
20:39
that afterwards? Well,
20:41
cuz you cut me off and
20:43
didn't let me You're so
20:45
excited to drink it was in
20:47
glasses that were presented to
20:49
us at a tasting so how
20:51
did I fuck that up? That's
20:56
a
20:58
very common
21:00
reaction. But
21:02
when you have birch syrup on salmon
21:04
or pork or chicken, it is delicious. Oh,
21:07
I can see that. It's how you use
21:09
it. You have to use it in cooking.
21:11
It's not something you would just drink.
21:13
Nobody would just drink, like I said, balsamic
21:15
vinegar. Yeah, you'd have to pour into cups
21:17
at a tasting. and have
21:19
it be the third thing you tasted
21:21
for someone to accidentally drink it.
21:23
It's kind of accurate, because you on
21:25
your own, you're alive. But with
21:28
me and Gorley. That's through what's had.
21:30
We compliment you. The
21:32
taste of Gorley was fantastic. The taste
21:34
of Sona was amazing. And then when
21:36
you two were quiet and we had
21:38
a little bit of Conan, it was
21:40
repellent. It was sour. It
21:42
was always supposed to be
21:45
slightly acidic. Not fully acidic.
21:47
I wouldn't say that acidic
21:49
is the only issue. How's
21:52
it selling the The
21:54
Bert syrup? How's it how's
21:56
it going? So
21:58
Yeah, the
22:01
Conan one
22:03
Let's call
22:06
it the
22:08
Jordan it
22:11
is Let
22:15
me do a little favor
22:17
here, pal. I don't
22:19
know much about business and such.
22:21
I would put 99 .9 %
22:23
of your business into the two
22:25
maples, the walnut maple and
22:27
the regular maple. I
22:30
would try... Would you have a
22:32
facility where you make the birch?
22:34
yeah we do and yeah blow
22:36
it up blow it up no
22:38
i'm just saying just blow it
22:40
up we do so um big
22:42
big blow up so blow it
22:44
up explosion we do put most
22:46
of our effort into maple that
22:48
is our number good good uh
22:50
yes but the birch sap runs
22:52
after maple and we have a
22:54
lot of customers that do actually
22:56
appreciate birch for its unique flavors
22:59
that use it In cooking lots
23:01
of different chefs can imagine if
23:03
you're grilling and then also based
23:05
that on there. Oh, yeah No
23:07
one would come around has it
23:09
by itself It's not just something
23:11
you normally just drink and then
23:13
we also have a lot of
23:15
people that buy it for Just
23:17
a sap as a beverage because
23:19
that's what's been used for Centuries
23:21
people drinking birch sap in the
23:23
springtime. It's like a spring tonic.
23:26
It's it's delicious Just as a
23:28
sap right out of the is
23:30
that where birch beer comes from
23:32
birch beer There's
23:34
lots of different types of birch
23:36
beer, but the birch beer that came
23:38
out of America was actually the
23:40
distillate of sweet birch or black birch
23:42
in Pennsylvania. It has like
23:45
an oil of wintergreen that's grown in
23:47
the trees. And that's
23:49
what they made the birch beer
23:51
from. Okay. Well, it probably took
23:53
us down an unproductive. was gonna say, I've never
23:55
heard of birch beer. Oh, birch beer is,
23:57
uh, pretty common. Yeah, no. It's out there. Yeah,
23:59
you've No, is that a East Coast thing?
24:02
It must be. I don't drink much. Yeah, it's
24:04
a Northeast thing. More of Conan
24:06
was growing up, too. Yeah, when I was growing up
24:08
every now and then my grandfather would pull up in his
24:10
Model T and see what's he'll get a birch beer.
24:12
And then on the way back, we'd vote for Warren Harding
24:14
for president. See, we just have
24:16
beer. We just have beer, you
24:18
nerd. Okay, well, okay. Well, I
24:20
guess I'm the fool in
24:22
this equation. Well, I this
24:25
is a, you have mostly a thriving
24:27
business, I think. Mostly.
24:29
Be wary of the birch syrup
24:31
and put a warning on the label.
24:33
Do not drink. Okay? Put a
24:35
warning on the Birch syrup label that
24:38
it's not to be, you
24:40
know, no one should drink it. Yes, yes. Oh,
24:42
you know what, better yet, put my face on
24:44
it, no one's gonna drink it. I
24:47
think if we put your face on it,
24:49
everybody would want to buy it. No, we've
24:51
tried that with other products. Yeah. Really? We
24:53
have a cone in fire extinguisher and in fires,
24:55
people won't use it. We have
24:57
a current intubator and people that are
25:00
dying won't use it. Anti
25:02
Paul Newman. Okay, that's nice.
25:07
You win this round. Oh,
25:09
Conan's Own. Conan's
25:11
Own proceeds are stolen from
25:13
charity. Yeah. Oh, my money is
25:15
taken from the kids camps. The
25:19
ship is sinking. Quickly, grab
25:21
the life preservers. They're Conan's Own
25:23
life preservers. I'd rather
25:25
die. I'd choose to drown.
25:29
Well, Mike, you're a good guy. You've
25:31
got a nice business. I
25:33
envy you living up there in
25:35
Lake Placid. Those are cold winters.
25:37
But what a beautiful country. What
25:39
a beautiful place to be from.
25:41
And congratulations on the upcoming possible
25:43
Olympics where people remain perfectly motionless
25:45
and yet are given the highest
25:48
prize possible in athletics. Um,
25:50
I think that's it. I think we're gonna... Oh my
25:53
God. It was a pleasure, Mike. Yeah, we're gonna
25:55
go make some... We're gonna go make some griddle cakes
25:57
and pour two of these three syrups onto it. And
25:59
then afterwards, not use the
26:01
cone in this fibrillator. Yeah, exactly.
26:05
Well, thank you very much, Mike. Take care. Bye.
26:08
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