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Welcome to the core

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principles podcast. Thank you for

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tuning in and we hope

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you'll enjoy this lively discussion

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of relevant topics which

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we attempt to examine

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through the lens of

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unchanging objective truth. Here's

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the host of the

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core principles podcast Clay

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Howard. Thank you Suzanne.

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Today on core principles I'm

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honored to the program a

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senior fellow. of the Center

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on Wealth and Policy, also a

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senior fellow of the Discovery Institute,

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a former fellow of the Hoover

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Institution. This is a man who

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has written hundreds of articles that

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have been published in places like

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the Wall Street Journal, New York

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Post, Chicago Tribune, USA Today, and

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others. He's got a bachelor's and

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master's degree from the University

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of Chicago and doctorate from

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Boston University. But before

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tackling those... academic endeavors.

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Today's guest had gained experience

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by backpacking through parts of

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nearly 50 countries to get

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a first-hand view of how

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things are in other places.

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He's an author of three

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great books, including Rediscovering America.

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Welcome back to the program,

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Scott Powell. How are you

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doing? Well, today is the

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day. It's election day. We're

1:22

recording this on Tuesday the

1:24

5th of November and people

1:26

have been saying that this

1:28

is the most important election

1:30

of all time. It may

1:32

actually be true because I

1:34

think we're debating so-called debating

1:37

not just how to achieve common

1:39

goals, but What goals should we

1:41

pursue and they are diametrically opposed?

1:44

Do we want to restore and

1:46

continue America as the land of

1:48

liberty or turn it into something

1:50

completely different? And you published an

1:53

article, Scott Powell, over the weekend,

1:55

about the importance of this election

1:57

and you began with a reminder

1:59

about how unique America is

2:01

in world history. So I

2:03

wonder as we start, could

2:05

you give our listeners a

2:08

little refresher on America's exceptional

2:10

founding and longevity? Yeah, I'd

2:12

be happy to. I think

2:14

it's important for everyone to

2:16

understand just how unique and

2:18

consequential the birth of America

2:20

was. Prior to America's founding,

2:22

there was really no, there

2:24

was certainly no constitutional republics.

2:27

The democracies that existed maybe

2:29

in Greece and Rome at

2:31

times were very short-lived and

2:33

didn't last long. And in

2:35

Asia, Asia was always a

2:37

aristocratic, oligarchic society. They had

2:39

no experience with democracy in

2:41

any Asian country prior to

2:43

World War II. Can you

2:46

imagine that? Prior World War

2:48

II. all that Asian people,

2:50

the most populated part of

2:52

the world, all that they

2:54

knew was the way it

2:56

was. And that is that

2:58

the elites ruled and everyone

3:00

else served the elites. When

3:02

America was born, I was

3:05

born out of principles, out

3:07

of Christian principle, frankly, and

3:09

it was understood that people

3:11

had equal value because we're

3:13

created by God, we have

3:15

equal value, and we have

3:17

rights. Unalienable rights, rights that

3:19

can't be taken away by

3:21

the state. In the Declaration

3:24

of Independence, it's life, liberty,

3:26

and the pursuit of happiness.

3:28

And these are rights that

3:30

cannot be taken away by

3:32

the state, because this is

3:34

the birth of America. America

3:36

was unique in human history.

3:38

And many countries, we've affected

3:41

the world in dramatic ways.

3:43

We've allowed corruption to come

3:45

into our country in the

3:47

latter part of the 20th

3:49

century more than any other

3:51

time. and we no longer

3:53

have the respect that we

3:55

once had because, well, frankly,

3:57

we have an illegitimate government.

4:00

A government is established by

4:02

honest voting. One man, one

4:04

vote, you have to be

4:06

a citizen to vote. And,

4:08

you know, there were such

4:10

egregious questions about the 2020

4:12

election, the last presidential election

4:14

and also the 2022 election,

4:16

and we're faced with the

4:19

same problems now because we

4:21

really didn't address those problems.

4:23

But we'll just have to

4:25

see how it works out

4:27

because the vast majority of

4:29

American people know that something's

4:31

deeply wrong with our current

4:33

administration, the so-called Biden and

4:35

Harris administration, has opened the

4:38

floodgates of not just normal

4:40

immigrants, illegal immigrants, but all

4:42

kinds of people, criminals. We

4:44

have 100,000 Chinese in our

4:46

country. We have Hezbollah elements

4:48

in our country from Venezuela,

4:50

we have Venezuelan gangs, we've

4:52

all heard about, and all

4:54

of this was allowed to

4:57

happen through this administration. That's

4:59

probably the biggest issue that

5:01

many people have. And then

5:03

we have other issues having

5:05

to do with inflation and

5:07

the economy and so forth.

5:09

So it would appear that

5:11

the opposing party, that is,

5:14

say, the non-Biden Harris Party,

5:16

that's the Republican Party, led

5:18

by Trump and Vance, would

5:20

have a natural majority because

5:22

when people are unhappy, they

5:24

vote for the opposition, even

5:26

if they don't understand a

5:28

great deal. That was one

5:30

of the, part of the

5:33

wisdom of the founders was

5:35

that they recognized that people

5:37

would vote based upon how

5:39

circumstances were and when certain

5:41

instances weren't good. They would

5:43

vote the ruling class out

5:45

and vote in an alternative.

5:47

But when you have both

5:49

broad... a problem of election

5:52

irregularity, it's questionable whether we

5:54

can vote, that we can

5:56

vote in and, you know,

5:58

get an honest vote to

6:00

change the administration, but I'm

6:02

optimistic because I think that

6:04

the numbers are really quite

6:06

large and strong. And there's

6:08

a real momentum. That's great.

6:11

And we will talk later

6:13

in the program about some

6:15

specific things going on and

6:17

some things that did go

6:19

on last time, perhaps. I

6:21

have confidence that some of

6:23

the problems have been addressed,

6:25

but certain of them we

6:27

don't know. Well, you mentioned

6:30

how the power of the

6:32

state can be problematic when

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they don't follow our founding

6:36

principles. And so I want

6:38

to quote something that you

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quoted in your article. It

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was from President George Washington's

6:44

farewell address in 1796. He

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said this, quote, however they,

6:49

these political parties, may now

6:51

and then answer popular ends.

6:53

And listeners, that's like when

6:55

we vote. However, they may

6:57

answer popular ends. They are

6:59

likely in the course of

7:01

time and things to become

7:03

potent engines by which cunning,

7:06

ambitious, and unprincipled men will

7:08

be enabled to subvert the

7:10

power of the people and

7:12

to usurp for themselves the

7:14

reins of government. President Washington

7:16

nailed it, our term commonly

7:18

used for that in the

7:20

21st century is the deep

7:22

state. And President Trump may

7:25

be our last hope to

7:27

stop the destruction that is

7:29

being brought by the deep

7:31

state that President Washington had

7:33

warned us against. So Scott

7:35

Powell, do you think that

7:37

with this sort of all-star

7:39

team that President Trump has

7:41

assembled? including people from diverse

7:44

backgrounds like JD Vance, Robert

7:46

Kennedy Jr. Tulsa Gabor, Elon

7:48

Musk, Ron Paul, and others.

7:50

Do you think that they

7:52

can thwart the dominance? of

7:54

the destructive deep state? Well

7:56

I think that justice has

7:58

to be served in order

8:00

for there to be a

8:03

big correction in our country.

8:05

We have seen political corruption

8:07

for so long where people

8:09

really committed treason and sedition

8:11

against our country. These are

8:13

political officials, be it you

8:15

know the Clinton family or

8:17

Barack Obama. No penalties. No

8:19

as far as we know.

8:22

Even though my orchus was

8:24

impeached by the house, he

8:26

wasn't tried by the Senate.

8:28

I guess they figured it

8:30

would be a non-starter. So

8:32

why try something a long

8:34

past? But when treason and

8:36

sedition has been committed against

8:38

American people, a price must

8:41

be paid. It's a lot

8:43

like a crime that's committed

8:45

against a family. Say there's

8:47

a murder and you catch

8:49

the murderer. The murderer gets

8:51

tried. The family can't bring

8:53

closure. and get on with

8:55

their lives until justice is

8:58

served and the murder is

9:00

tried by a court and

9:02

sentenced to a penalty. America

9:04

needs the same sort of

9:06

cleansing. We need people who

9:08

have committed treason against our

9:10

country to be held accountable.

9:12

And this can be a

9:14

process that can take place

9:17

much like Rudy Giuliani busted

9:19

the mafia in New York.

9:21

You get low-level people to

9:23

begin to talk. and turn

9:25

and you give them immunity.

9:27

In other words, you help

9:29

us get to the real

9:31

criminals and get the goods

9:33

on them, we will give

9:36

you immunity. And this could

9:38

be a process that takes

9:40

some time, but I do

9:42

believe that there are a

9:44

lot of people in our

9:46

government agencies, the FBI in

9:48

particular, the CIA, State Department,

9:50

and elsewhere that are really

9:52

concerned about... Not just corruption,

9:55

but the there is really

9:57

an element of turning of,

9:59

you know, of confounding and

10:01

committing treason against our Constitution

10:03

and cooperating with enemies. Notably,

10:05

the Chinese, the Chinese are

10:07

a number one enemy and

10:09

the Chinese have penetrated our

10:11

country like no other country

10:14

in our history. I mean,

10:16

they buy a farmland, they

10:18

buy a farmland near military

10:20

bases. We've allowed 100, thousand

10:22

Chinese. to come over the

10:24

southern border. 100,000 male, you

10:26

know, sort of military age

10:28

type people are now in

10:30

our country. We really don't

10:33

know. Some of them may

10:35

be here for a better

10:37

opportunity. They may be disillusioned

10:39

about the Chinese system and

10:41

somehow found a way to

10:43

get, you know, to the

10:45

dairy and gap and come

10:47

up with the, with the

10:50

caravans. But it appears that

10:52

it's quite different with the

10:54

Chinese. They're all dress alike.

10:56

They're highly organized. And one

10:58

half to suspect that they

11:00

may be here to make

11:02

trouble for us because, I

11:04

mean, China has ambitions. They

11:06

have ambitions to take over

11:09

Taiwan. How would you do

11:11

that with American presence around

11:13

Taiwan? And in, you know,

11:15

the, the, uh, Southeastern area,

11:17

it's hard for them to

11:19

make a move, but if

11:21

they pinned us down at

11:23

home with some kind of

11:25

actions that might be charged

11:28

against our, you know, our

11:30

infrastructure, our power system, our

11:32

water system, and these are

11:34

the kind of people that

11:36

are trained to do this,

11:38

and they know everything about

11:40

us. They know where to

11:42

go. They know. They know

11:44

how to create havoc in

11:47

America and we just have

11:49

to pray that that doesn't

11:51

happen, particularly after this election

11:53

because They don't want Donald

11:55

Trump assuming others. The Chinese

11:57

do not want Donald Trump

11:59

back in the Oval Office.

12:01

They recognize he's a tough

12:03

guy. He means business. He

12:06

stands up to adversaries. He

12:08

doesn't want to go to

12:10

war, but he's not afraid

12:12

to use power selectively to

12:14

deter enemies. It's really important

12:16

points. And listeners, if you

12:18

missed it, a few episodes

12:20

back, I spoke with Gordon

12:22

Chang about his book. plan

12:25

read that details some of

12:27

how China is working towards

12:29

those ends that Scott Powell

12:31

just highlighted. Now you mentioned

12:33

the Department of Justice, let's

12:35

talk about them for a

12:37

moment. Democrats have been ironically

12:39

warning that President Trump is

12:42

going to use the Department

12:44

of Justice to prosecute his

12:46

political enemies, when in fact,

12:48

of course, as we've all

12:50

observed, the Democrats have actually

12:52

been doing that. And the

12:54

guilty leftists' should be prosecuted

12:56

for their crimes. You just

12:58

mentioned some of these things.

13:01

It means it includes treason.

13:03

And it should be regardless

13:05

of their politics. I mean,

13:07

a crime is a crime.

13:09

It doesn't matter what somebody

13:11

believes. Now I'm in Kentucky.

13:13

and our senior senator has

13:15

just announced that he's going

13:17

to be stepping down from

13:20

leadership role. Mitch McConnell has

13:22

done some questionable things, some

13:24

bad things, but one of

13:26

the great things, noble things,

13:28

important things, that Mitch McConnell

13:30

actually did do, was to

13:32

keep Merrick Garland off of

13:34

the Supreme Court. And it

13:36

cost Mitch some political capital.

13:39

He had to take some

13:41

heat for that. I salute

13:43

Mitch McConnell for doing that

13:45

one thing. Merrick Garland is...

13:47

evil. And now he's the

13:49

head of our Department of

13:51

Justice, which has been weaponized

13:53

to the point of being

13:55

a terror machine against patriotic

13:58

Americans. I've interviewed some folks

14:00

on this program, including Sarah

14:02

McAfee. Her husband, Sheriff Colton

14:04

McAfee, is locked up now

14:06

for having been present outside

14:08

the capital on January 6,

14:10

2020. What do you think,

14:12

Scott Powell, is going to

14:14

happen with the ongoing actions

14:17

against President Trump? There's supposedly

14:19

a sentencing from that crazy

14:21

guy, Murshan, up in New

14:23

York, later this month. How

14:25

do you think we can

14:27

restore faith in the justice

14:29

system? Oh, we have to

14:31

have a, you know, clean

14:34

out the corruption is the

14:36

starting. Of course, the Justice

14:38

Department gets changed with new

14:40

administrations. you know, each administration

14:42

forms their own, you know,

14:44

they appoint the attorney general

14:46

as a cabinet position. He's

14:48

a very powerful person, arguably

14:50

more powerful and more important

14:53

than the vice president. So

14:55

American should pay a price

14:57

and there's more American garland

14:59

than meets the eye. His

15:01

son-in-law, by the way, was

15:03

the principal, the founder, the

15:05

main guy who produced critical

15:07

race theory curriculum that was

15:09

distributed to all most of

15:12

the schools, to the federal

15:14

bureaucracies, to governments, to the

15:16

military. His son-in-law benefited from

15:18

Merrick Garland's position, if you

15:20

will, and helped to, you

15:22

know, really do a lot

15:24

of harm in our country.

15:26

It's just a new form

15:28

of Marxism. And Trump was

15:31

very, very, very much against,

15:33

and I believe he took

15:35

a stand to remove all

15:37

critical race theory from the

15:39

federal agencies and from the

15:41

military before he left office

15:43

when it became known how

15:45

widespread it was. But the

15:47

new administration just brought it

15:50

all back in, you know,

15:52

DEA, diversity, equity, and inclusion

15:54

and critical race. They're very

15:56

close. They're kissing cousins. These

15:58

are brands of neo-Marxism and

16:00

remember what Marxism is, it

16:02

is a philosophy of hatred

16:04

against other people. It's not

16:06

a philosophy of bringing people

16:09

together. There's no grace or

16:11

forgiveness in Marxism. There's hatred,

16:13

and there's class warfare, and

16:15

it is perpetual. And this

16:17

is why communist countries are

16:19

such hell holes. We don't

16:21

want that in America. It's

16:23

crazy that we would have

16:26

even gone down that road

16:28

at all, let alone really

16:30

open up our federal agencies,

16:32

our military, our public schools.

16:34

to this kind of indoctrination,

16:36

this has been a great

16:38

crime against America. And I

16:40

think with Donald Trump being

16:42

elected, it will end very

16:45

quickly. I pray that would

16:47

be the case. And listeners,

16:49

you know that the key

16:51

element of critical race theory

16:53

is the critical part. All

16:55

these so-called critical theories are

16:57

primarily about overturning the system.

16:59

They need to destroy. the

17:01

system that Scott Powell described

17:04

as our founders set up

17:06

for us to be the

17:08

land of liberty and replace

17:10

it with something else. They

17:12

use race just as the

17:14

tool because everybody hates racism,

17:16

everybody hates inequality and bigotry,

17:18

everybody hates that. So they're

17:20

just going to say, okay,

17:23

well, America is that and

17:25

the only way out is

17:27

to destroy it and rebuild

17:29

it without being that. But

17:31

of course it's a big

17:33

lie. pointed out and had

17:35

historians on the program pointing

17:37

out numerous times on this

17:39

program. America is and has

17:42

been since its founding the

17:44

most anti-slavery nation in the

17:46

history of the world. Another

17:48

topic for another day and

17:50

you can look at old

17:52

archive episodes for more information

17:54

on that. But next Scott

17:56

Powell want to ask you

17:58

about the media. I mentioned

18:01

Elon Musk earlier. I think

18:03

he's an example we can

18:05

all understand about how... The

18:07

media is arrayed against the

18:09

American people. President Trump in

18:11

his first term called them

18:13

fake news. He even called

18:15

them the enemy of the

18:18

people and in response. Of

18:20

course, Pearl Clutchers thought, oh,

18:22

Trump was too harsh. But

18:24

we've seen he was actually

18:26

too kind in his description.

18:28

Denzel Washington, the Hollywood actor,

18:30

made a really wise observation.

18:32

He said, we've been told

18:34

that if we don't read

18:37

the paper, watch the news,

18:39

we're uninformed. But he says,

18:41

in reality, these days, if

18:43

we do listen to that

18:45

so-called news media, then we

18:47

are misinformed. used to be

18:49

used to censor people and

18:51

to shape false narratives. But

18:53

when Elon Musk bought it,

18:56

he stated that his objective

18:58

was to promote free speech.

19:00

And we all observed the

19:02

response. Leftists and Democrats and

19:04

so-called liberals hate free speech

19:06

the way that vampires hate

19:08

crosses. So Scott Powell, what

19:10

observations would you highlight for

19:12

our listeners about the manipulations

19:15

of the news media, stories

19:17

that they bury, stories that

19:19

they don't cover, and do

19:21

you think that we can

19:23

overcome that problem? Well, I

19:25

think we can overcome it

19:27

and we are. Let's first

19:29

understand why free speech is

19:31

so important. Nobody has a

19:34

monopoly on the truth. But

19:36

free speech, which is to

19:38

say a competition of ideas.

19:40

a competition of philosophy and

19:42

ideas and accounting for history.

19:44

This is all in the

19:46

world of trying to get

19:48

at what is the truth.

19:50

And what happens when there's

19:53

competition of different viewpoints is

19:55

that the faulty viewpoints get

19:57

defeated over time. And we

19:59

get closer and closer to

20:01

the truth. So if we

20:03

were to have a country...

20:05

A virtuous country that's based

20:07

on truth justice. What is

20:10

that the American way we're

20:12

talking about America? But truth

20:14

and justice. We've got to

20:16

have free speech is the

20:18

is the. is the foundation

20:20

and the driving force to

20:22

protect that system. So anyone

20:24

that would talk about being

20:26

enemy of free speech needs

20:29

are enemies of the people.

20:31

These are enemies of getting

20:33

at the truth. And you

20:35

know, the people who have

20:37

power, and right now the

20:39

deep state has a lot

20:41

of power. They know if

20:43

they're exposed, it's over. and

20:45

they are being exposed, they're

20:48

being exposed by Elon Musk,

20:50

by Alex Jones, by Joe

20:52

Rogan, and many, many others.

20:54

I mean, there is a

20:56

myriad of alternative media now

20:58

that are just, that are,

21:00

you know, the source of

21:02

getting at the truth of

21:04

things, getting at the truth

21:07

of what happened in COVID

21:09

and the vaccinations. You know,

21:11

we don't just have a

21:13

military industrial complex that is

21:15

corrupt. We have a medical

21:17

pharmaceutical industrial complex. We have

21:19

a university educational complex. They're

21:21

all trying to limit free

21:23

speech. They're trying to direct

21:26

things to support their agenda.

21:28

And isn't it interesting that

21:30

we are sicker now than

21:32

ever before? With the pharmaceutical

21:34

industry, just keep... growing and

21:36

dominating the advertising market. American

21:38

people are sicker than they

21:40

were, we're less healthy than

21:42

we were 10 years ago,

21:45

20, 30 years ago. How

21:47

about education? The Department of

21:49

Education was founded in 1977

21:51

by Jimmy Carter. Are public

21:53

schools better or worse today?

21:55

Localities. You know, can, you

21:57

know, they, they can manage

21:59

schools. can choose their curriculum.

22:02

This is the way it was before.

22:04

We need to get back to

22:06

the basics and trust the American

22:08

people to get things done. You

22:10

know, the government has not served

22:13

us well and it's grown and

22:15

grown and grown and it's really

22:17

crowded out the so-called private

22:20

sector and it controls the

22:22

private sector. We're overregulated,

22:24

we're over taxed. We need

22:27

to get back to being Americans.

22:29

Well, you mentioned education

22:31

and how important that

22:33

is and how it's not been

22:36

serving families and students

22:38

well. It may surprise you

22:40

Scott Powell, but Kentucky is

22:42

one of the few states

22:44

that has absolutely the worst

22:47

setup for any possibility of school

22:49

choice. And today on the

22:51

ballot here in Kentucky, there

22:53

is an amendment to

22:56

our own state constitution that

22:58

would permit not require but

23:00

permit our general assembly to

23:02

consider school choice measures. Currently

23:05

they're not allowed. Every argument

23:07

I've heard against that has

23:09

been factually false. They're saying it

23:11

would defund public schools. It not

23:14

only doesn't do that, it doesn't

23:16

permit that to happen, but that'll

23:18

be a question that my radio

23:20

audience will be hearing about after

23:23

it's already been determined, but I'm

23:25

praying that amendment to... will

23:27

pass in Kentucky so that we

23:30

can have the possibility for school

23:32

choice. That competition itself

23:34

will bring about better

23:36

results for the students,

23:38

I truly believe. Absolutely.

23:40

Wherever there is competition,

23:42

there is improvement. Improvement

23:44

of quality. And then the

23:46

consumer sector, we all know

23:48

this. What does competition do? It

23:51

drives quality up and prices down.

23:53

And that can only

23:56

happen. by the competition

23:58

of different You know, buying

24:00

for the customer. You want to

24:03

produce a quality good and you

24:05

want to price it. And it

24:07

isn't, you know, it isn't just

24:10

the low-end prices that win the,

24:12

that win the battle. People are

24:15

smart and they evaluate. What are

24:17

the features of the higher price

24:19

good? Is it worth paying extra

24:22

for that? And oftentimes it is.

24:24

But it's only competition that brings

24:26

that about. That is the virtue

24:29

of the free market system. It's

24:31

interesting, you know, you know, the

24:33

Declaration of Independence. The very same

24:36

year in Scotland or Great Britain,

24:38

Adam Smith published The Wealth of

24:40

Nations, which was the first, really

24:43

the first explanation of why the

24:45

free market system works so well.

24:47

You know, people pursuing their own

24:50

interests, if you will, producing goods

24:52

and services that they knew people

24:54

wanted, their motivation. was to be

24:57

profitable. So they had self-interest, but

24:59

when they all did that, when

25:01

everyone pursued their self-interest for the

25:04

common good, the common good was

25:06

benefits. It's, they called it the

25:08

invisible hand, if you will. And

25:11

it's really remarkable. And, you know,

25:13

our free market system has been

25:15

shipped away. Look what happened during

25:18

COVID. All these small entrepreneurial businesses

25:20

were shut down. And I don't

25:22

believe that the... you know, the

25:25

lockdowns and the shutdowns of our

25:27

economy, the closing of churches and

25:29

so forth, while, you know, strip

25:32

joints and bars were left open

25:34

and the big box retailers were

25:36

left open. People got well, the

25:39

rich got rich during COVID and

25:41

all of us, the people got

25:43

poor and many people became very

25:46

poor. If their business, if they

25:48

lost their business, they could never

25:51

recover from the COVID lockdowns. They've

25:53

had to start over in life.

25:55

It absolutely was on purpose I

25:58

don't believe it was by accident.

26:00

No, I don't. Here's two of

26:02

the purposes, Scott. One of them

26:05

is always a purpose of the

26:07

left, which is to engender greater

26:09

dependence of citizens on the central

26:12

government. But the second one, you

26:14

mentioned about churches, this may also

26:16

surprise you about Kentucky because we're

26:19

going to go for Trump today

26:21

by 30% plus, but we have

26:23

a leftist governor who is absolutely

26:26

horrific. He was in there when

26:28

COVID was happening. His first instinct

26:30

before there were any restrictions nationwide

26:33

was we need to discourage people

26:35

from going to church. And the

26:37

way he did it, Scott Powell,

26:40

was he sent state troopers to

26:42

parking lots of churches and had

26:44

them visibly out there marking down

26:47

people's license numbers to intimidate them

26:49

to make them think that they

26:51

were doing something wrong by going

26:54

to church and that there might

26:56

be legal consequences. Absolutely horrific. Well,

26:58

yeah, he's he's very bad man.

27:01

In fact, we have voting machines

27:03

here in Kentucky and it's already

27:05

been proven that they're flipping votes

27:08

from Trump to Harris on the

27:10

touch screens. That's been the day

27:12

proven. Trump's still going to win

27:15

by 30 in Kentucky. But in

27:17

the last election when the governor

27:19

was on the ballot, every conservative

27:22

statewide. One, we have a supermajority

27:24

conservative legislature for the first time

27:27

when this governor got in there

27:29

for the sole purpose of stopping

27:31

this governor. They overturned 29 vetoes

27:34

in a single legislative session. That's

27:36

how much we put them there

27:38

to stop him. And they tell

27:41

us that he got reelected when

27:43

every other person on the ballot

27:45

who was an opponent of his

27:48

at lower levels. One hugely it

27:50

was very bizarre. So we have

27:52

election anomalies in Kentucky well. Well

27:55

it is election day Scott Powell

27:57

so now we've had a lot

27:59

of structure based on the article

28:02

that you wrote and the things

28:04

that I wanted to draw out

28:06

of that and the principles behind

28:09

this but let's end the episode

28:11

just with free form discussion as

28:13

if we were over dinner talking

28:16

about the election. What's going to

28:18

happen? Are we going to overcome

28:20

the fraud? What do you predict?

28:23

I'm optimistic and I've become optimistic

28:25

in really the last... four or

28:27

five days. I just saw the

28:30

incredible momentum. And, you know, we

28:32

have to give Donald Trump a

28:34

tremendous amount of credit. Who else

28:37

at his age could do what

28:39

he's done? Yesterday he had four

28:41

rallies. I watched his Pennsylvania rally.

28:44

It got over 10 o'clock at

28:46

night. He got on a plane

28:48

to go to, I believe he

28:51

went to Michigan for his last

28:53

rally at 1030 at night. the

28:55

man is just the most energetic

28:58

person and you know he's he's

29:00

really I think what's most impressive

29:03

about don't Trump is his love

29:05

for the country he has this

29:07

unflappable undeniable patriotism and isn't that

29:10

what we would want in the

29:12

leader of America someone who loves

29:14

the country and and you know

29:17

he has a way of He's

29:19

somewhat, he understands how to create

29:21

contagion. I mean, he's, you know,

29:24

he's, he's made people more courageous

29:26

because he's courageous. He's made people

29:28

more patriotic, more Americans are patriotic

29:31

now whenever before because of his

29:33

patriotism. What an ideal leader to

29:35

have. He may be a little

29:38

rough around the ages because of

29:40

his background being in commercial real

29:42

estate in New York. And he,

29:45

you know, he can speak very

29:47

frankly, very candidly. I think a

29:49

lot of. working class people relate

29:52

to that. They think, hey, who's.

29:54

one of us. In any case,

29:56

the results that he delivered under

29:59

fire in his first term of

30:01

four years were really incredible. In

30:03

spite of being hounded, his whole

30:06

time in office, he, you know,

30:08

he remade the economy, he closed

30:10

the border, he effectively used American

30:13

power overseas not by going to

30:15

war, but by being selected and

30:17

being tough. I mean, he got

30:20

the Mexican army to return to

30:22

our border. Do you know, he

30:24

got Kim, you know, to stop

30:27

firing missile? He insulted him. We

30:29

call him a little rocket man,

30:31

but he got him to do

30:34

the right thing. And there's a

30:36

lot of instructive things in what

30:39

you said there, Scott, because you

30:41

think about when he took out

30:43

Sulamani, the terror leader, Tulsa Gabard

30:46

at that time, said... that President

30:48

Trump just started World War III.

30:50

She was so opposed to taking

30:53

out salamani and she disliked President

30:55

Trump so much at that point

30:57

that she said he is out

31:00

of control, he just started World

31:02

War III. And then she noticed,

31:04

as the rest of us did,

31:07

no, he just stopped a terror

31:09

leader and protected lives. Tolci Gabber,

31:11

to her credit, like Elon Musk

31:14

and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and

31:16

Nicole Shanahan and some of these

31:18

others, have said, you know what?

31:21

And in fact, like, like, like,

31:23

like J. J. six or seven

31:25

years ago, they, to their credit,

31:28

looked, observed, and thought about what

31:30

they were seeing about what he

31:32

actually did, and then they said,

31:35

okay, I was incorrect. He did

31:37

these things I disapproved of, but

31:39

he did it for a purpose

31:42

that actually came to fruition for

31:44

the good of America. That's maturity.

31:46

I salute those people. Yeah, I

31:49

think we have a lot to

31:51

learn from all of these people

31:53

that you've just mentioned. These are

31:56

people that are willing... to say,

31:58

you know, I was wrong, my

32:00

first judgment of Donald Trump was

32:03

wrong. And now I can see

32:05

the benefit of his policies. and

32:07

they can change their mind. I

32:10

mean, this is what life is

32:12

all about. It's a constant process

32:15

of challenging our ideas and growing,

32:17

eliminating what doesn't work and what,

32:19

you know, what is a dead

32:22

end to paths of life that

32:24

seem to bear fruit and cause

32:26

flourishing. I mean, we want to

32:29

be a flourishing country. And I

32:31

think Donald Trump, you know, brought

32:33

that to America, I think He

32:36

talks about in almost every speech

32:38

he gives now, he talks about

32:40

the next four years of being

32:43

the best four years of America

32:45

ever had. Now, that may be

32:47

an overstatement, but I'll bet on

32:50

him that he's going to deliver

32:52

a much safer and more prosperous

32:54

country right out of the gate.

32:57

I mean, he's a man of

32:59

action, and that's what we need.

33:01

What I'm really praying for out

33:04

of these next four years with

33:06

President Trump back in the office

33:08

is that it's a set up

33:11

for many more years of prosperity

33:13

because it's about the direction we're

33:15

taking. When Barack Obama told us

33:18

as he was running, he was

33:20

senator at the time running for

33:22

president, he said, I want to

33:25

fundamentally transform this nation. I about

33:27

fell out of my chair. I

33:29

thought that's totally disqualifying. I happened

33:32

to like America the way it

33:34

is. And that's aggressively anti-American. The

33:36

Democrats that followed Obama are like,

33:39

yeah, we would love America if

33:41

only it were completely opposite of

33:43

the way it is, which like

33:46

when I told people Obama hates

33:48

America, they said, you can't say

33:51

that. I said, he said it

33:53

himself when he told us that

33:55

because if you think about any

33:58

relationship you have, tell somebody in

34:00

your life these two things and

34:02

you'll prove the point. Thing one,

34:05

I love you and thing two,

34:07

I want to turn you into

34:09

somebody completely different. They'll know that

34:12

thing one is the opposite of

34:14

the truth. So one of the

34:16

things you mentioned earlier, Scott, about

34:19

the Wealth of Nations and the

34:21

way we... pursue self-interest just naturally.

34:23

I think Trump leverages that beautifully.

34:26

He's a great negotiator because he

34:28

enters every negotiation with other world

34:30

leaders with the knowledge that they

34:33

have their country's best interest first

34:35

in mind. And he pursues, how

34:37

can we both pursue what we

34:40

want without getting into a fight?

34:42

That's wise and it's successful. Yeah,

34:44

yeah, I know he's he for

34:47

being a newcomer to politics He's

34:49

actually a very remarkable man You

34:51

know what he learned through his

34:54

life as a successful Real estate

34:56

developer in a very tough place

34:58

in New York City where he

35:01

had to deal with remember he

35:03

had been deal with elements much

35:05

like some of these corrupt leaders

35:08

overseas he had to deal with

35:10

the mafia control various parts of

35:12

the constructive industry. So if you

35:15

wanted to build a building, you

35:17

would have had to find a

35:19

way to contain them and work

35:22

with them in some way to

35:24

get your project completed. But it

35:27

isn't to say that he, you

35:29

know, would encourage corruption. In fact,

35:31

the man is, you know, the

35:34

man has a record. of success

35:36

because he knows how to work

35:38

with people and he knows how

35:41

to produce quality at lower prices.

35:43

And he's a great negotiator and

35:45

we couldn't ask for a better

35:48

leader than someone who will negotiate

35:50

for the best interests of the

35:52

United States on a constant basis

35:55

on every matter. We can trust

35:57

that he's not going to sell

35:59

out America. This last administration we've

36:02

been living under. Joe Biden first

36:04

of all received as much as

36:06

30 million dollars his family through

36:09

various you know, front companies entities

36:11

received up to 30 million dollars

36:13

from the Chinese. So 100 Biden's,

36:16

you know, working with the system

36:18

over there. Now, why did that

36:20

happen? We know why the Chinese

36:23

want to buy influence in the

36:25

Biden administration right out of the

36:27

gate. What did Biden do? He

36:30

pulled out of Afghanistan very abruptly.

36:32

leaving 85 billion dollars worth of

36:34

state-of-the-art military equipment to be acquired

36:37

by Boone, the Taliban, and the

36:39

Chinese. The Chinese now are at

36:41

Baghrom Air Force Base. That was

36:44

one of the best bases in

36:46

in Asia. When I was assigned

36:48

in Afghanistan, most of my tour

36:51

was there at Baghrom and it

36:53

was the one truly safe place

36:55

in the theater when Now we

36:58

had already stopped kinetic operations by

37:00

the time Trump left office I

37:03

was there in 2005 it was

37:05

pretty hot then but The kinetic

37:07

operations if you will Hunting down

37:10

the bad guys had pretty much

37:12

tape it off. We were going

37:14

to stay though. We're still in

37:17

Japan all these years later. We're

37:19

not at war with them. We

37:21

have a presence And to give

37:24

up that presence by abandoning Bagram

37:26

Airfield, our only truly safe egress

37:28

point, before getting vulnerable people, not

37:31

even the military, out of there,

37:33

was buffoonery that got people killed.

37:35

It's just absolutely unconscionable. So people

37:38

remember this and it's good that

37:40

we bring it up and that

37:42

everybody reminded why we need change

37:45

and we want leaders that care

37:47

about our people, our soldiers. in

37:49

our country and are not going

37:52

to take actions which undermine the

37:54

American interests. We don't make, you

37:56

know, we don't turn over the

37:59

credit and... and assets to the

38:01

Iranians. You know, Biden, I forget

38:03

how many billions of dollars

38:06

that he released to the

38:08

Iranians, but it's quite large.

38:10

And as a result, what

38:12

happened? Terrorism increased. They have more

38:14

money. I mean, the Houthis, that

38:16

are fully funded by the Iranians,

38:19

have basically made the Red

38:21

Sea impassable. And they're more

38:23

aggressive against our ally Israel.

38:26

thinking there won't be consequences

38:28

from a Biden administration or

38:30

they know it wouldn't from

38:32

Harris. And by the way

38:34

with Harris, Tim Waltz is

38:37

far more communistic than Biden

38:39

could dream of. Biden, you

38:41

know, was just self-interested and

38:43

hunter and they wanted money. Tim

38:45

Waltz is a fellow traveler. He is

38:48

a fellow traveler. I think he is

38:50

a communist agent. Yeah. Well...

38:52

I want to ask you a different

38:54

kind of question about the election. We've

38:56

had a lot of polls and they've

38:58

been all over the place and the

39:01

most trustworthy ones from last time that

39:03

aren't media related but are trying to

39:05

earn money by being accurate say that

39:07

Trump's going to win every single swing

39:10

state so I pray that they're right.

39:12

But there's also this time for the

39:14

first time legal betting markets on the

39:16

election and they over the past

39:18

month trended hard towards Trump than

39:20

some... big transactions, brought it back

39:22

closer to even, and then in

39:25

the past four days it's gone

39:27

back to about 60-40, Trump's going

39:29

to win. What do you think,

39:31

Scott Powell, about the betting markets?

39:33

Do you take anything from those? Well,

39:35

I think you should take something from

39:37

them, because after all, they're driven

39:40

by people that are trying to make

39:42

the right call. They're willing to put

39:44

their money on the table. They're

39:47

willing to bet on that call,

39:49

and so they're making assessments

39:51

and it's you know there's lots

39:53

of people doing it so

39:55

it's a competitive environment

39:58

so I think it's as good an

40:00

indicator, it's probably a better indicator

40:03

than some of the pollsters who

40:05

are, you know... Certainly the media

40:07

polls that want to shape opinion

40:10

rather than reflect it. But there's

40:12

one thing about the betting polls,

40:15

Scott, that the betting market, that

40:17

I think is more important than

40:19

whether they're predictive of anything, and

40:22

that is standing in court. Last

40:24

time, we caught them, we caught

40:27

the Democrats cheating in the swing

40:29

states, and on this... podcast in

40:31

November of 2020, I detailed some

40:34

of the ways they did it

40:36

in Georgia and Pennsylvania and Arizona

40:39

and Michigan and so forth. But

40:41

we saw that courts treated it

40:43

as radioactive topic. They didn't want

40:46

anything to do with it, including

40:48

Supreme Court, when Texas said, hey,

40:51

you disenfranchised us red states by

40:53

letting this cheating happen, the Supreme

40:55

Court says nobody has standing to

40:58

hear anything. But now there's actual

41:00

money material loss if... People get

41:03

disenfranchised by cheating and they lose

41:05

money, I think that a court

41:07

will have to say, okay, you

41:10

do have standing, so I'm going

41:12

to hear the evidence that none

41:15

of them heard about the cheating

41:17

last time. And in fact, we've

41:19

seen, Scott, that before the election,

41:22

when courts were confronted in Pennsylvania

41:24

and Virginia and Georgia and elsewhere

41:27

with cases that said, hey, we

41:29

observe in the early voting. this

41:31

abnormality or this cheating or they're

41:34

registering illegals or so forth. Courts

41:36

have stepped in and said, knock

41:39

it off, Democrats, that won't play.

41:41

Are you encouraged by the... Yes,

41:43

I'm encouraged by that. And one

41:46

of the biggest breakthroughs just happened,

41:48

I believe it was yesterday, and

41:51

that was in Arizona, where a

41:53

court ruled that 1.2 million... ineligible

41:55

voters that were still on the

41:58

voting rolls in Arizona that they

42:00

needed to release this information. This

42:03

information had been blocked for years.

42:05

It was blocked from the 2022

42:07

election when Kerry Lake was running

42:10

for governor. It was, it was,

42:12

you know, not, it was blocked

42:15

in the 2020 election. Arizona, of

42:17

course, is a key swing state,

42:19

traditionally a conservative state, but voted,

42:22

you know, voted Democratic. And it's

42:24

largely because of, you know, a

42:27

ballot, of votes that had no

42:29

real people or eligible people behind

42:31

them. But that's a very big

42:34

number, and they have been ordered

42:36

to release this information. It's encouraging

42:39

to see that as we have

42:41

persisted, I mean, the lessons learned

42:43

from our experience, lesson learned from

42:46

Donald Trump, I might add, is

42:48

persistence gets you over the finish

42:51

line. You don't give up. You

42:53

keep pursuing justice. Even though you

42:55

get it this year or next

42:58

year, but you keep doing that.

43:00

And we're seeing some real breakthroughs

43:03

that I think are going to

43:05

be, I hope they'll be contagious,

43:07

and so that other states will

43:10

be emboldened to clean up their

43:12

voter rolls. By the way, Scott,

43:15

in 2022, we were expecting that

43:17

red wave. Well, Three states that

43:19

are normally 50-50 toss-ups, we had

43:22

red tsunami, and it's because they

43:24

cleaned up the photo rolls with

43:27

the help of Judicial Watch and

43:29

some others, and they required ID

43:31

to vote, and they required citizenship

43:34

to register. And those three states,

43:36

Florida, Ohio, and Iowa, were red

43:39

tsunami. And that is indicative. And

43:41

then in Arizona, they... absolutely cheated

43:43

in 2020 and 2022, different ways.

43:46

In 2022, in Maricopa County, they

43:48

disenfranchised the election day voters. by

43:51

saying the machines don't work,

43:53

which by the way they're doing

43:55

this morning in red counties in

43:57

Pennsylvania, but people are staying in

44:00

line and that's going to be

44:02

fixed. But that's something that they're

44:05

trying. And Pennsylvania and Arizona notably

44:07

have already told us we won't

44:09

know the results. Well, that's just

44:12

saying we intend to cheat like

44:14

we did last time. The biggest

44:17

thing that happened last time that

44:19

we all observed that we know

44:21

they cheated was at 1030, approximately

44:24

1030 p.m. on election night, six

44:26

Democrat precincts in counties in swing

44:29

states called timeout, kicked out the

44:31

required observers, said we won't count

44:33

until you come back in the

44:36

morning, and then overnight changed the...

44:38

count. We are eyewitnesses to that.

44:41

It's absolutely, there's no possible legal

44:43

explanation for it. It happened and

44:45

it changed the result of every

44:48

one of those states. We saw

44:50

it happen. Yeah. It was really

44:53

a RICO case there because, you

44:55

know, the voting rules and regulations

44:57

and laws are set by the

45:00

state legislatures. In other words, each

45:02

state is independent of all the

45:05

other states and how they run

45:07

their elections. So when you saw

45:09

six states, all stop counting their

45:12

voting at the same time. That

45:14

was an orchestrated, that was orchestrated,

45:17

that was collusion to commit crime.

45:19

That's the basis of a RICO

45:21

case, because no one took that

45:24

up or they didn't take it

45:26

up successfully. And it wasn't the

45:29

state level so much in each

45:31

of those cases. It wasn't Democrat

45:33

precinct levels. I named all the

45:36

counties in November 2020 when that

45:38

happened. They took different approaches. Michigan

45:41

put coverings on the windows so

45:43

nobody could see what they were

45:45

doing. Just crazy things like that.

45:48

Georgia, they're like, we need an

45:50

excuse, so let's. claim there was

45:53

a water pipe break. That was

45:55

a lie. In Pennsylvania, they said,

45:57

well, we're just going to rely

46:00

on more mail-in votes. They counted

46:02

approximately 1.15 million extra mail-in ballots

46:05

beyond what the Secretary of State

46:07

had already reported that they had

46:09

received from voters. And that's how

46:12

they overcame the fact that President

46:14

Trump won Pennsylvania in 2020 by

46:17

about 700,000 votes. over and over

46:19

and we saw this but the

46:21

courts wouldn't touch it. This time

46:24

I think they are already

46:26

are stopping some of that and

46:28

people do have standing so that

46:31

if they had to be brought

46:33

up after the fact it would

46:35

be heard. Any other final thoughts?

46:38

I know we're running closer to

46:40

your next interview time Scott but

46:43

any final thoughts I really do

46:45

want to get a prediction from

46:47

you. Who wins the president's role?

46:50

I think that the Trump ticket

46:52

is going to win the presidency

46:55

and the vice president and we

46:57

believe that we're going to we're

46:59

going to pick up significant seats

47:02

in the Senate maybe four five

47:04

seats and I think in the

47:07

House we'll pick up a few

47:09

seats and if if and that's

47:11

conservative if if things go really

47:14

well the numbers will be bigger

47:16

in the Senate in the House.

47:19

Well, I pray you are correct.

47:21

And the way that it happened,

47:23

if you haven't voted, patriots, get

47:26

out there and vote today. Don't

47:28

let them kick you out of

47:31

line. And so, Scott Powell, thank

47:33

you so much for being my

47:35

guest today on core principles. God

47:38

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47:40

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