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of I Heart Radio. Democratic

2:01

Party leadership in the

2:04

House and the Senate

2:06

has to go. And

2:08

the leaders in the

2:11

states have to get

2:13

active or they have to

2:15

go. And the first you

2:18

can go is Gavin

2:20

Newsom. You're out.

2:22

I'll get to him in

2:25

a moment. During

2:27

a pit stop at the

2:29

Indianapolis 500 car race in

2:31

1981, some Methanol was sprayed

2:33

into and on driver Rick

2:35

Meers and his crew, and

2:37

suddenly there was literally an

2:39

invisible fire. Methanol flame does

2:41

not produce smoke. It is virtually

2:44

invisible in sunlight. Rick Meers and

2:46

his crew were on fire, and

2:48

nobody could see it. Literally.

2:50

Invisible fire. People thought

2:52

perhaps they were kidding. Right now

2:55

this nation is on

2:57

fire. Also an invisible

2:59

fire. And Democratic leadership

3:01

is saying, and oh no,

3:03

it isn't. Because Ekem Jeffries

3:05

and Gavin Newsom and the others

3:08

can't, effing, see it. Or

3:10

because they personally are not yet

3:12

on fire. Yet. Yet. Because Trump

3:15

hasn't gotten to them yet

3:17

to set them on fire. Axios

3:19

reports that Jeffries... The

3:21

minority whip Catherine Clark and

3:24

caucus chair Pete Aguiar, the

3:26

top three Democrats in the

3:28

House, summoned a dozen rank-and-file

3:30

members to what was called

3:32

a come-to-jesus meeting about the

3:34

disruptions during Trump's I'm God, right?

3:36

Speech last week. You're

3:39

thinking Jeffries and Clark and

3:41

Aguiar should have been awarding

3:43

the disruptors medals of some

3:45

kind or maybe scolding them

3:47

for not disrupting enough? No,

3:49

sir. Leadership is quote very

3:51

unhappy that congressmen and congresswomen

3:53

who see the invisible

3:56

fire consuming our nation had the

3:58

audacity to react to it. Raps

4:00

like Jasmine Crockett, Maxwell

4:03

Frost, Maxine Dexter of

4:05

Oregon, Melanie Stansbury of

4:07

New Mexico, you had a lot

4:09

of nerve! Straying from our plan,

4:11

Jeffries told them, and reminded them

4:14

of his dear colleague letter he

4:16

sent them before the speech, insisting

4:18

on a quote, strong, determined, and

4:20

dignified democratic presence in

4:23

the chamber, and how they

4:25

violated that by making themselves

4:27

the story. Seriously. If it

4:29

came Jeffries thinks limiting protests

4:31

to holding up those pathetic

4:34

little signs that they all had, and

4:36

to what was called, quote, outfit

4:38

coordination and refusal to clap,

4:40

unquote, if he thinks that

4:42

was a sign of strength, or that it

4:44

was determined, or that it was

4:46

somehow dignified, he should be marched out

4:49

of the House Chamber faster than Al

4:51

Green was, and in fact, Jeffries should

4:53

be marched out of the House Chamber

4:55

by Democrats. They are not being

4:58

talked to like they are children.

5:00

One Democrat leaked to Axios for

5:02

a story that made the protesters

5:04

look like children. We are helping

5:06

them understand why their strategy is

5:08

a bad idea. Ah, I think I've just

5:11

located the source of the problem

5:13

here. Their strategy is not a

5:15

bad idea. Given that their strategy

5:17

is, unlike their strategy is, unlike

5:19

the one apparently dreamed up

5:21

by Ekem Jeffries, an actual

5:24

strategy. While the one dreamed

5:26

up by Ekem Jeffries is

5:28

holding up signs, the size

5:30

of ping-pong paddles, and not

5:32

offending the dictator, nor angering

5:34

his Republican slave masters in

5:36

the House. It doesn't surprise me

5:38

leadership is very upset. They

5:41

gave specific instructions not to

5:43

do that, one anonymous Democrat

5:45

said, showing exactly the lack

5:47

of courage. Trump is counting

5:49

on. Trump will count on.

5:52

Trump has always counted on.

5:54

Would they have ever done that to

5:56

Nancy Pelosi? You know the answer, never!

5:58

You've got to put the hammer... down.

6:00

Yes, put the hammer down.

6:02

Put the hammer down right

6:04

on top of that anonymous

6:07

Democrats' head. F him or

6:09

her. F them. The country is

6:11

on fire and Trump is

6:13

doing his best. Well, Putin's

6:16

best to next set the

6:18

world on fire and Ekem

6:20

Jeffries is worried about

6:23

making sure his Democrats

6:25

in the House are

6:27

absolutely consistent in doing

6:29

absolutely nothing about it.

6:32

Invisible fire everywhere and he

6:34

has become a living meme. It's

6:36

fine, he says, from the table,

6:39

sipping his coffee. And by the

6:41

way, you invoke Nancy Pelosi

6:43

to encourage this silent

6:46

appeasement? This obeying in advance,

6:48

what did Nancy Pelosi do

6:50

again after Trump's last state

6:52

of the union address in

6:55

2020? She tore up

6:57

her copy of his

6:59

speech on camera slowly

7:02

and methodically. And do

7:04

you remember that? Or

7:06

do you remember the

7:08

Democratic response speech that

7:10

followed Trump's State of

7:12

the Union in 2020? Or who

7:15

gave that speech? Or what that

7:17

speech was about. I

7:19

understand that Democratic lawmakers

7:22

are hamstrung. They

7:25

don't know what to do at the moment.

7:27

Democracy seems to be a

7:29

bad campaign basis. They only have a

7:31

few options at this point. They

7:33

could literally act outside of the

7:36

law. I suppose since bribes

7:38

by foreigners are no longer

7:40

going to be investigated anywhere,

7:42

you could get foreign billionaires

7:44

to buy Republicans to vote

7:46

to impeach Trump. I mean,

7:48

it's one Republican Michael. What

7:50

could it cost? Ten million

7:52

dollars? You could

7:54

go a little bit more immediately and

7:56

more direct you could interrupt fascist

7:58

rallies like Trump's next verbal

8:00

version of Mein Kampf with, I don't

8:03

know, reasons to evacuate the area in

8:05

which the speech is being given.

8:07

That's probably contraindicated.

8:10

Democratic leadership and

8:12

Democrats could act symbolically

8:14

and metaphorically and maybe

8:16

get themselves punished inside

8:18

the house or maybe even arrested by, you

8:21

know, getting up and leaving with Al

8:23

Green when he is escorted out.

8:25

going along with the progressives who

8:27

sang We Shall Overcome, while

8:29

this latest crazy Republican Speaker

8:31

Mike Johnson read out Green's

8:33

censure motion. Or, if they're

8:36

not willing to do any of that, they

8:38

can do whatever the hell Hakeem

8:40

Jeffries thinks he's doing. And I'm

8:42

really not sure what holding up

8:44

little paddles that make them all

8:46

look like Wild E. Coyote in

8:48

the Roadrunner cartoons with his signs

8:51

reading help, and that's all folks.

8:53

does, but I believe the

8:55

technical term for what he's

8:57

doing is, I think this is

8:59

the technical term, nothing

9:02

while the nation burns, invisibly.

9:04

By the way, Andy Ogles,

9:06

an insane man who

9:08

represents insane county,

9:11

is pushing privileged

9:13

motions to remove

9:15

all the protesting Democrats

9:17

from their committee assignments.

9:21

And you know, if

9:24

Ekem Jeffries votes for

9:26

those resolutions, I would

9:28

only be mildly surprised.

9:31

Because of course, 10

9:33

Democrats in the House,

9:36

elected as Democrats, by

9:38

Democratic voters, they voted

9:40

with the Republicans to

9:43

censure Al Green, and they

9:45

did this because bluntly,

9:47

these 10 Democrats, are

9:50

assholes. Asshole. Laura

9:52

Gilling. Asshole.

9:54

Jim Himes. Asshole.

9:57

Chrisie Hoolahan.

10:00

Asshole. Marcy capture.

10:02

Asshole. Jared Moskowitz.

10:05

Asshole. And Tom Swazzy.

10:08

Asshole. In fact, here's

10:10

another asshole to

10:13

take home with you. Some

10:15

of those are not

10:17

actually surprises. Swazzy

10:19

is nothing more than

10:22

a weather vein and

10:24

a mediocre one. Marie

10:26

Perez too. It's a shame

10:28

about Jared Moskowitz. He's useful. He

10:31

was great against Comer. He's funny

10:33

and if he apologizes, I

10:35

would say he gets a

10:37

second chance. It's a shame

10:39

Marcy Capture wants to end her

10:41

career. Siding with Nazis. But

10:44

there you go. Out. All of them. Out.

10:46

And if he doesn't figure out that

10:48

the country is on fire,

10:50

Jeffries? Out. Because what Jeffrey should

10:52

be doing is threatening to shut

10:54

the god damn House of Representatives

10:56

down if any of those measures

10:58

to throw those dozen or so

11:00

Democrats who sang off their committees

11:02

passes. Walk out before the CR

11:04

vote. Let the Republicans destroy themselves

11:06

and Trump and the economy. With

11:08

no Democrats in the House.

11:10

Get yourself arrested if need

11:12

be a king. Do something.

11:14

Christ, at least hold that

11:16

weekly news conference every Sunday

11:19

morning just to steal the

11:21

narrative away from Trump. It's

11:23

a meaningless press conference. It's

11:25

a manipulation of the media.

11:28

At least you could do that.

11:30

Are you good at anything? Risk something.

11:32

Risk as much as that old

11:34

man from Texas with the cane

11:36

risk. and the members of the Black

11:39

Caucus who sang risked. I mean, God

11:41

damn it, Jeffries, last month Jim

11:43

McGovern of Massachusetts suggested

11:45

there was a constitutional crisis

11:48

and that the response should

11:50

be, quote, maybe a national strike.

11:52

Saturday he held a town hall in Hollaston,

11:54

Mass, and he brought it up

11:56

again, a national strike. We can't

11:59

just sit back. and let our

12:01

democracy just fall apart,

12:03

says Congressman McGovern.

12:05

I can imagine Jeffrey's response

12:08

to that. We're not letting

12:10

it fall apart. We have

12:12

outfit coordination. We have

12:14

our cute little auction

12:16

house bitter paddles with

12:18

strong words written on them,

12:21

but not too strong. The

12:23

inside, off-the-record response

12:25

from the Democrats. from

12:28

the leadership, from the old,

12:30

wise men and women of

12:32

the party, is that the

12:35

Democrats just haven't coordinated a

12:37

strategy of response to all

12:39

this yet, still flat-footed after

12:41

the election. The election

12:43

was 126 days ago. In that

12:46

time, Trump has given a

12:48

line-item budget veto to a

12:50

white supremacist, and he's given

12:52

your personal info to a

12:55

stoned narcissist. He's dangled

12:57

the prospect of war

12:59

against Canada, Panama, Mexico,

13:01

and Denmark. He has

13:03

imperiled Ukraine and all of

13:06

Europe. He has followed Putin's

13:08

instructions to the letter. He has

13:10

begun the process of staying in

13:12

office past his expiration date.

13:14

What he has not yet

13:17

broken, he has threatened to break.

13:19

The King Jeffries has bought

13:21

pickleball paddles. and coordinated

13:24

outfits and yelled

13:27

at the only

13:29

Democrats actually merely

13:32

doing something symbolic.

13:35

Out! Get him out of

13:37

here! And the others!

13:40

Ordinarily, you wait for

13:42

the Vichy government to

13:45

take shape after the

13:47

Hitler has defeated the

13:50

France! Al

13:52

Green for Democratic

13:55

House leader. Or bring back

13:57

Nancy and start tearing

13:59

shit. shit again.

14:24

By the way, the answer to

14:26

the trivia question was that the

14:29

year Nancy tore up the copy

14:31

of Trump's speech was 2020 and

14:33

the democratic response was by Governor

14:35

Gretchen Whitmer of Michigan and it

14:38

had an audience and I had to

14:40

go look it up. When you have

14:42

nothing but symbolism, do the

14:44

symbolism. No

14:47

to Akeem Jeffries, yes to

14:49

Nancy Pelosi, and no to

14:52

Gavin Newsom as the new

14:54

face of the Democratic Party.

14:56

Not at all. I'm not as

14:59

shocked as many were that he's

15:01

suddenly uncertain about

15:04

transgendered scholastic

15:06

athletes. The whole issue, all

15:08

sides of it, whereas it has

15:10

taken on tragic and

15:13

meaningful proportions,

15:15

it is not in fact... gigantic.

15:17

There might be in this

15:19

country 150 students, high school,

15:22

college to whom this applies.

15:24

If the amount of time spent

15:26

on this issue were devoted

15:29

to the amount of time

15:31

that would be required to

15:33

resolve each of these situations

15:35

inside the league or the

15:37

organization in which they are

15:40

unfolding, that could have been solved

15:42

in about two weeks. Because

15:44

it's not about transgendered athletes,

15:46

Gavin. It's not about whether

15:48

or not it's fair to

15:50

the girls. They don't give a

15:52

damn about girls sports. They're

15:55

going to eliminate them next

15:57

month. Gavin Newsom did not

15:59

surprise... me with that. He

16:01

surprised me with something else.

16:04

He really didn't surprise

16:06

me with anything. Because

16:08

I met Kimberly Guilfoil

16:10

20 years ago when she was

16:12

trying to get a show at

16:15

MSNBC when Newsom was still

16:17

Mayor of San Francisco

16:19

and Kimberly Guilfoil was

16:21

still Gavin Newsom's wife

16:24

and my only thoughts

16:26

were this is his wife? That's

16:28

who he married? This idiot? And

16:30

the other thought was the dialogue

16:33

from the movie The Graduate.

16:35

When the old guy, Mr.

16:37

McGuire, at the graduation party,

16:40

has that conversation, that

16:42

career advice with Dustin Hoffman, and

16:44

he says, I want to say

16:46

one word to you, just one

16:49

word. And Dustin Hoffman, Benjamin

16:51

says, yes, sir. And Mr.

16:53

McGuire says, are you listening?

16:56

And Benjamin says, yes, I

16:58

am. And Mr. McGuire

17:00

says, plastics. Newsom

17:03

has given me another one

17:05

of those first moments,

17:08

not the plastics moments,

17:10

but, you know, he

17:12

married this idiot. Newsom

17:14

did a podcast with

17:17

Charlie Kirk. That's where

17:19

the quote about

17:21

transgender athletes comes

17:23

from. And he agreed

17:25

with Charlie Kirk. that there's

17:28

an issue with transgender athletes.

17:30

He agreed with Charlie Kirk.

17:33

Racist, sexist, monstrous, Charlie Kirk.

17:35

To what point? To try to get

17:38

the vote from that vast middle

17:40

out there? The middle between

17:42

what, Gavin? Nazis who want

17:44

to kill all the non-Nazis,

17:46

and Nazis who merely want

17:48

to imprison all the non-Nazis?

17:50

Is that your wheelhouse for

17:52

the nomination in 2028?

17:55

And then it turned out, at least

17:57

according to Kirk, that the podcast...

18:00

was arranged by Kim

18:02

Gilfoil. Kirk told the

18:04

Fox station in LA, quote,

18:06

I got a phone call

18:09

from Governor Newsome two weeks

18:11

ago. We connected through

18:13

Kimberly Gilfoil. Obviously,

18:16

they have a shared past.

18:18

So not only are you

18:20

still working with Kirk, but

18:22

you reached out via Kim

18:25

Gilfoil, because Lara

18:27

Trump was unavailable.

18:29

Alina Habeau wouldn't take your

18:32

call? Kirk had another quote, this is

18:34

another non-surprised, this is a guy

18:36

who wants to be president more

18:38

than any other human being alive.

18:40

Well, that's not true, there's still

18:42

Trump. But Gavin, if Kirk's right,

18:45

my advice to you is this, get JD

18:47

Vance to resign, get Trump to a point

18:49

you vice president, because even today,

18:51

even now, to get the Democratic

18:54

nomination for president, you have to

18:56

have a minimum of one scruple.

18:58

Scruple. Just one. I mean,

19:01

here is where we are in this

19:03

country. Josh Marshall's site, TPM,

19:05

has gotten an email

19:07

from management at the

19:09

U.S. African Development Foundation

19:11

to the White House

19:13

Presidential Personnel Office about the

19:16

appointment of the acting chair

19:18

of the Foundation's board. Seems

19:21

like trivia, seems like

19:23

legalese. And it in fact is

19:25

the next thing they are going

19:27

to do to destroy the country.

19:29

It gets around the reality that

19:31

in this case Trump's choice could

19:33

never get confirmed by the Senate

19:35

for this acting chair or full-time

19:38

chair of the foundational board. So

19:40

the foundation's solution memorialized

19:42

in an email to the

19:44

White House Presidential Personnel

19:46

Office is very simple. The foundation

19:49

solution and Trump's end.

19:51

Senate confirmation of presidential

19:53

appointments. This email begins, quote,

19:56

given the president's inability to

19:58

supervise the activities of board

20:00

less USADF, he has inherent

20:02

authority, those are the keywords,

20:04

inherent authority to designate

20:07

an acting chairman of the

20:09

board. And it ends, quote, the

20:11

president currently has no way

20:13

of ensuring the agency is

20:15

running or complying with his

20:18

executive order unless

20:20

he directs an temporary

20:22

official using inherent authority

20:24

under Article 2. Bingo. You

20:27

heard me, the next Trump

20:29

maneuver will be that Senate

20:31

approval of his

20:33

appointments is unconstitutional

20:36

according to the

20:38

inherent authority in

20:40

Article 2. President B.

20:42

King. Advise and consent

20:44

this. Eliminate just

20:47

restraints on Trump. Now,

20:49

also eliminate criticism

20:51

of him. And questions

20:53

to him. And questions

20:55

to him. Eliminate

20:58

the slightest protest by the outside

21:00

world, whether it is Al Green

21:02

swinging his cane, or Akeem Jeffrey

21:04

swinging his bat with the paddle

21:07

ball attached to it by string,

21:09

or just some senator asking a

21:11

question about who this idiot is

21:13

he wants to appoint to run

21:15

the board of the USADF. And

21:19

that's another reason why Al Green's

21:22

mid-speech protest was so essential. Trump

21:24

long ago figured out that the

21:27

easiest way to avoid criticism was

21:29

to avoid critics. Keep the critics out,

21:31

out of your rallies, out of your

21:33

speeches, out of your cabinet, out of

21:35

your party, out of your sight. But

21:37

there's one hole in that wall. You

21:39

can't keep them out of your speeches

21:42

to Congress. Democrats

21:44

at Trump speeches and the

21:46

media at Trump event... Cabinet

21:49

out of your party, out

21:51

of your sight! But there's one

21:53

hole in that wall. You can't

21:55

keep them out of your speeches

21:57

to Congress. Democrats...

22:00

at Trump's speeches and the media

22:02

at Trump events are literally

22:04

the last people in this

22:06

country, the last handful of

22:08

people who pierce Trump's bubble

22:10

in the slightest. Al Green voiced

22:12

opposition and criticism

22:15

and Trump almost

22:17

imperceptively has moved from being

22:19

convinced he has overwhelming support

22:21

to convincing himself he has

22:23

nothing but support to convincing

22:26

himself that he has a

22:28

complete mandate and is already

22:30

king to never even hearing

22:32

any more criticism to punishing

22:35

the critics to making critics

22:37

and criticism of him illegal.

22:39

That is the path. That's... why

22:42

the individual boycotts of his

22:44

speech to Congress a week

22:46

ago were well-intentioned but stupid.

22:48

That's why even the little ping-pong

22:51

ball paddles were better. That's

22:53

why Democratic leadership should have

22:55

walked out with Al Green, not

22:57

warned others never to do anything

22:59

again without written permission of a

23:01

game Jeffries. Most of them are

23:04

of, at best, dubious value.

23:06

As elected congressmen and senators,

23:08

utterly fungible. Several

23:11

buildings full of Tom

23:13

Swaziz's. But, as the

23:16

last Americans allowed to

23:18

literally speak truth to

23:21

power, their job is

23:23

to interrupt Trump. Their

23:25

job is to interrupt

23:27

his feedback loop. Their

23:30

job is to shake

23:32

him and enrage him

23:34

and provoke him. Their

23:36

job is to use

23:38

their right to shout

23:40

catcalls from the Congressional

23:42

Peanut Gallery until Trump

23:44

eliminates the Congressional Peanut

23:46

Gallery by eliminating

23:48

Congress. They have to do

23:51

this because when he

23:53

eliminates Congress. All we will

23:55

have left is the media. And

23:58

I know, it's a surprise. to you

24:00

that we still have media. I

24:02

wouldn't have noticed either. Funniest

24:04

dog-on thing. Trump announced he was

24:07

going to get tough on Russia

24:09

and there'd be sanctions on Russia

24:11

and he would pressure Russia to

24:13

settle with Ukraine and then he

24:15

cut off Ukraine's access to

24:18

U.S. satellite imagery. And then the

24:20

Russians doubled the amount of bombs

24:22

they were dropping onto Ukraine, and

24:24

then the accuracy of those drops

24:26

suddenly doubled to as if they

24:28

were getting locations and other targeting

24:31

information from American companies. And then

24:33

NBC reported yesterday that even if

24:35

Zelenski signs a rare earth deal

24:37

today, that does not mean Trump

24:39

will restore American aid to Ukraine,

24:41

he wants Zelenski to move towards

24:43

resigning. and

24:45

holding elections. And yes, Trump's people

24:48

have been caught talking to the

24:50

opposition parties in Ukraine. You know,

24:52

the ones favored by Putin. Oh,

24:54

and, and, yes, he signs the

24:56

rare earths and minerals deal and

24:58

seeds all the territory Russia want.

25:00

Then, NBC reported yesterday that even

25:03

if Zelenski signs a rare earth

25:05

deal today, that does not mean

25:07

Trump will restore American aid to

25:09

Ukraine. He wants Zelenski to move

25:11

towards resigning. and

25:14

holding elections and yes Trump's people

25:16

have been caught talking to the opposition

25:18

parties in Ukraine you know the ones

25:20

favored by Putin oh and and yes

25:22

he signs the rare earths and minerals

25:25

deal and seeds all the territory Russia

25:27

wants and after all that the media

25:29

is still reporting that Trump is

25:32

going to get tough on Russia

25:34

about Ukraine and there'll be sanctions

25:36

on Russia and he's pressuring Russia

25:38

because the media now sucks sucks

25:41

The only people who have not been

25:44

muzzled or self-muzzled are the ones who

25:46

are too stupid to do the job

25:48

well in the first place. And just

25:50

when you are ready to give up

25:53

on these idiots, you remember, oh my God,

25:55

they are idiots, but they are our

25:57

idiots, and they are the only idiots

25:59

we have... left. And you remember

26:01

that Trump hates them more than

26:03

we do. Only he is hunting

26:06

them now. I got scoffing

26:08

blowback from last Thursday's

26:10

podcast, especially the title Trump's

26:13

plan to make it illegal

26:15

to criticize him and his

26:17

junta. And I'd like to apologize

26:20

for that title because it

26:22

wasn't strong enough. The title should

26:25

have been Trump's plan to make

26:27

it illegal to criticize him and

26:29

his junta and the media is

26:31

collaborating so fast it may happen

26:33

before summer. Mr. President, since

26:35

you must spoke about it

26:37

yesterday, some detail have come

26:39

out about it at your

26:41

cabinet meeting with Elon Musk

26:43

and some cautious potential of

26:45

the thing. No, clash. I

26:48

was there. You're just a

26:50

trouble, Medicare. And you're not

26:52

supposed to be asking that

26:54

question, because we're talking about

26:56

the World Cup. Elon gets

26:58

along great with Marko. And

27:00

I'm both doing a fantastic

27:02

job. I can't imagine why

27:05

Trump got away with

27:07

telling a reporter you're

27:09

not supposed to ask

27:11

that question. Maybe it's

27:14

because when he expelled

27:16

the Associated Press from

27:18

the White House, not

27:20

one other news organization,

27:23

not one, did anything

27:25

about it. Nobody

27:29

did a thing, even when simple

27:31

self-defense should have told the White

27:33

House Correspondence Association to walk out

27:35

on Moss that day. And maybe

27:37

it's because when the White House Correspondence

27:39

Association did not walk out on Moss

27:41

that day, Trump knew he could take

27:44

away its right to select the pool

27:46

reporters, and they again would not walk

27:48

out on Moss when he did that, and

27:50

he could threaten them with expulsion from the

27:52

White House, the way you just heard him

27:54

do it. to the NBC guy just

27:56

there without saying it just by

27:59

implying it. and

28:01

knowing the White House

28:04

Correspondence Association would do nothing.

28:06

He also knew he could do

28:08

that to Mr. NBC reporter

28:10

there because Vichy Joe Scarborough

28:12

and Mrs. Vichy Joe... went to

28:14

Marilago and begged for what passes

28:17

for their pathetic professional lives, and

28:19

he knew he could do that

28:21

to NBC going forward because NBC

28:23

immediately spun off MS NBC as

28:26

fast as they could file the

28:28

business paperwork, and MS NBC then

28:30

fired or demoted all of its

28:32

hosts of color, and Trump would

28:35

never have to explicitly threatened

28:37

NBC ever again. Ah, okay.

28:39

Maybe you'd have to threaten them

28:41

again once. Frankly, what Nicole Wallace

28:43

said. I've never been a fan

28:45

of hers, but and she's not

28:47

very talented. But I'll tell you

28:50

what she said the other day

28:52

about that young man is disgraceful.

28:54

She should be forced to resign.

28:56

And Rachel Maddo should be forced

28:58

to resign. Nobody watches or anyway.

29:00

I don't know if it's not

29:03

possible they pay her as much

29:05

money as I hear, but certainly

29:07

she's lost. all credibility, both of

29:09

them. But what they said

29:12

the other day, they should

29:14

be forced to resign.

29:16

Thank you again, Joe

29:19

Scarborough. Joe Scarborough is,

29:21

as H.L. Mencken would

29:24

have phrased it, not

29:26

worth the oil with which

29:28

to fry him in

29:31

hell. You know my

29:33

criticisms of Rachel Maddo.

29:38

I'm sure though when push comes

29:40

to shove NBC will defend

29:42

her and Wallace and its

29:45

White House reporter or that

29:47

guy who is probably by

29:49

now its ex- White House

29:51

reporter and and not the

29:53

shady ex-Congressman who has

29:56

gone from Trump critic

29:58

to Trump's of Trump

30:00

insect overlords and has done

30:03

all this in literally one

30:05

decade. Laws against deep fakes

30:07

that can be converted

30:09

into laws against anti-

30:11

trump videos, laws against

30:13

campus protests nominally about

30:16

the Middle East that

30:18

can be converted into

30:20

laws against campus protests

30:23

about him. And the saddest

30:25

part is none of

30:27

these... Refined laws directed

30:29

at the media, directed

30:31

at protest may be

30:34

necessary because the

30:36

media will have killed

30:38

itself first. Quote, I

30:41

am a member of

30:43

several Tesla owner forums

30:45

where widespread reports

30:48

of similar attacks

30:50

are being shared.

30:52

begins a post at a Facebook

30:54

site username Mike Miller, who knows if

30:56

it's real, copying a letter he claims

30:59

to have sent to his California

31:01

congressman Garamendi, quote,

31:03

owners are facing physical

31:05

threats, vandalism and

31:07

intimidation, simply because of their

31:09

vehicle choice. Reports in the

31:11

media highlight incidents of

31:13

Tesla charging stations being burned,

31:16

Tesla service centers being vandalized,

31:18

and Tesla vehicles being spray

31:21

painted. or otherwise damaged.

31:23

Unfortunately, law enforcement often

31:25

has limited ability to

31:27

hold perpetrators accountable. By the

31:30

way, certainly that's not because

31:32

the perpetrators got away in

31:34

their Tesla vehicles. This is not

31:36

just an issue of property damage, it

31:38

is an issue of safety

31:41

and targeted aggression. I urge

31:43

you to consider legislative action

31:45

that would increase penalties for

31:47

these acts, potentially classifying them

31:49

as hate crimes. or

31:51

enhancing legal consequences

31:54

for individuals who

31:56

engage in such behavior.

31:58

You heard him. Hate. crimes.

32:00

He wants, and again it

32:02

could be a troll, everybody

32:05

who responded to him

32:07

wasn't a troll, everybody who

32:09

said, yes, let's make it

32:11

a hate crime. He wants

32:13

any damage to a

32:15

Tesla vehicle or a

32:18

facility or especially a

32:20

thi-baituak prosecuted

32:22

as a hate crime. This

32:25

is how far the madness of

32:27

America 2025 has gone. Protections for

32:30

transgender people erased and the debate

32:32

over it endorsed by the governor

32:34

of California who claims to be

32:36

a Democrat and is still talking to

32:38

that crazy woman Gilfoyle. Protections for

32:41

transgender people erased the history

32:43

of violence against blacks erased

32:45

from government websites, erased

32:47

from government websites, libraries

32:50

from government websites, libraries

32:52

closed, libraries closed, History

32:54

whitewashed. The interruption of

32:57

a presidential speech, which is

32:59

a Republican invention incidentally

33:01

interrupting a presidential speech,

33:04

bringing censure and possible

33:06

removal from committees, and

33:09

ten Democrats supporting

33:11

it. But if somebody writes, F.U. Musk

33:13

with their finger on the dust on

33:15

the back of your cyber truck, that

33:17

should be a hate crime. The

33:21

problem, of course, is what under hate

33:23

crime statutes could you charge Musk with

33:26

when he blows up another one of

33:28

his own rockets, like last week? Sadly,

33:30

we go from the ridiculous to

33:32

the sublime. The New York Times

33:35

has published a massive history of

33:37

Sullivan, the Supreme Court case with

33:39

which it was involved, that is

33:42

the protection for almost all journalistic

33:44

investigations of and criticisms of elected

33:46

officials and prominent public figures. The

33:49

essence of Sullivan is that to

33:51

be guilty of defamation or liable,

33:53

a news organization has to be

33:56

proved to be guilty of actual

33:58

malice. Knowingly, printing false... hoods,

34:00

designed to damage a public

34:02

or governmental figure. After laudable,

34:05

but probably way to detailed

34:07

history of the ruling, the

34:09

Times finally gets around to

34:11

the shattering conclusion, paragraph 9,000

34:13

or so, that there are

34:15

already two Supreme Court justices

34:17

willing to hear a case

34:19

that could repeal Sullivan. Gorsuch

34:21

and Thomas, and all you

34:23

need is two more, and

34:25

Sullivan will be re-litigated by

34:27

an utterly compromised court, a

34:29

Supreme Court that is itself

34:32

a constitutional crisis. Worse still,

34:34

the time's peace concludes that

34:36

the likeliest plaintiff in such

34:38

a case would be Trump. that

34:40

his frivolous lawsuits against CNN

34:43

and the ABC-Stefenopolis case

34:45

about his quoting of

34:47

the word rape and

34:49

the stupid CBS lawsuit

34:51

about the 60-minute interview

34:53

of Kamala Harris, those are

34:55

actually attempts on Trump's behalf

34:58

or maybe by him, if he's sane

35:00

for an hour, to get one of

35:02

his lawsuits in front of his

35:04

Supreme Court to overturn Sullivan.

35:06

And again... Not exactly being

35:09

secretive about it. No stealth

35:11

here. After he lost his

35:13

2022 defamation case against

35:15

CNN, Trump appealed last

35:18

year and his lawyers

35:20

wrote, quote, plaintiff respectfully

35:22

requests that the court

35:24

revisit the actual malice

35:26

standard under New York Times v.

35:29

Sullivan. New York Times v.

35:31

Sullivan? Maybe that means they're

35:33

going to try to repeal New

35:36

York Times v. If

35:38

Sullivan disappeared, how

35:40

much of the already

35:42

terrified American news

35:45

media run by shithead

35:47

billionaires would disappear

35:49

with it? How shaky is the

35:52

ground on which Sullivan

35:54

stands? Well, if you'd

35:56

really like to not sleep

35:58

tonight, the times... notes that

36:00

32 years ago an academic

36:03

paper was written by an

36:05

assistant law professor at a

36:08

Midwestern University which questioned the

36:10

broadness of Sullivan, which questioned

36:13

especially how much it limited

36:15

non-governmental public figures from

36:17

suing news outlets for damage, how

36:20

it could someday, if left to

36:22

its own devices, tabloid eyes,

36:24

mainstream news. Even though, even 32

36:26

years ago, that had long since

36:28

happened. The

36:30

assistant professor with the

36:33

1993 doubts about Sullivan

36:35

is still a prominent

36:38

legal figure in 2025.

36:41

Her name is Supreme

36:43

Court Justice Elena

36:45

Kagan. And unless

36:47

she's changed her mind,

36:49

we're all in a boatload

36:52

of trouble. Also

36:56

of interest here in speaking

36:58

of which Gavin Newsom embraces

37:00

Charlie Kirk and Stephen A.

37:03

Smith, sorry, that's President Stephen

37:05

A. Smith, ask him, he's

37:07

reluctant to run, but ask

37:09

him if he's going to run

37:11

and make the great sacrifice. Gavin

37:13

Newsom embraces Charlie Kirk

37:16

and Stephen A. President

37:18

Smith, embraces Candace Owens.

37:20

And that sound you

37:22

heard is not the Overton

37:25

window shifting, it's the Overton

37:27

window being dropped by the

37:29

movers and shattering into a

37:32

million pieces on the

37:34

effing floor. That's next.

37:36

This is countdown. It's

37:41

Julie Stewart Banks. I'm doing a new

37:44

podcast from I Heart Podcasts and the

37:46

National Hockey League and I'm paired up

37:48

with one of my favorite players, the

37:50

always quotable Nate Thompson. I wore nine

37:52

in-it-jeal sweaters and I have story after story

37:54

to share and believe it or not I

37:56

have plenty to say and not just about

37:58

hockey. Believe me, he does. Energy Line with

38:01

Nate and JSP is the name of

38:03

the podcast and it's going to be,

38:05

well it's going to be quite the

38:07

right. We're officially line mates, Nate. Were

38:09

the... energy line. We'll have plenty of

38:11

folks join us. Current players, some of

38:13

my former teammates, Hall of Famers, and

38:15

wait to see some of the connections

38:17

that Julie has. She has quite the

38:19

roll of decks. Okay, we'll lean into

38:22

Nate's playing experience and tap into our

38:24

interests away from hockey and try to

38:26

do what energy lines are supposed to

38:28

do, provide an emotional boost. How do

38:30

you feel about all that Nate? I'm vibe

38:33

and Julie, I'm ready to roll. Listen to

38:35

Energy Line with Nathan J.S.B.

38:37

on the I Heart Radio

38:39

app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever

38:41

you get your podcasts. I'm

38:43

Mora Aaron Smeely, host of

38:45

The Anxious Achiever. It's a

38:47

show that looks at where

38:50

we spend most of our

38:52

waking hours, work. We explore

38:54

how work impacts our mental

38:56

health, how neurodiversity impacts our

38:58

careers, and how companies impact

39:00

our well-being. Is work broken?

39:02

It's hard to say that

39:04

work is broken because work

39:06

is work. And the system

39:09

itself doesn't favor workers.

39:11

I would say that the

39:13

system is unsustainable, is capitalism

39:15

and work, just relentless, cruel,

39:18

and unsustainable, which is really

39:20

my experience and my family's

39:23

experience. So in that way,

39:25

yeah, it's broken. Listen

39:27

to the anxious achiever on

39:29

the iHart Radio app. Apple

39:31

Podcasts or wherever you get

39:33

your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jay

39:35

Shetty and my latest interview

39:38

is with Kai Dickens. It was

39:40

remarkable to be in that room

39:43

and see someone reading someone

39:45

else's mind over and over

39:47

again. When you see it,

39:49

you can't unsee it. Have

39:51

you listened to telepathy tapes?

39:53

Non-speaking children on the autism

39:56

spectrum are able to read

39:58

the minds of people. Hi is

40:00

the host of a new podcast series

40:02

called The Telepathy Tapes. Please welcome Kai

40:04

Dickens. How would you describe or explain

40:06

what telepathy actually means? Telepathy

40:09

historically is reading someone's mind. You

40:11

know exactly what they're thinking. Parents are

40:13

saying right away this isn't just your

40:15

telepathy. We think we might be sharing

40:17

a consciousness. Had these abilities that... Those

40:20

of us mere mortals can develop. I

40:22

think that everyone has these in us

40:24

to a certain degree. The amount of

40:26

messages parents were telling me that they

40:29

were receiving from the other side through

40:31

their child was wild. Listen to On

40:33

Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeart

40:35

Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you

40:38

get your I'm

40:40

Mark Seal. And I'm Nathan King. This is

40:42

Leave the Gun, Take the Canole. The Five

40:44

Families did not want us to shoot that

40:46

picture. Leave the Gun, Take the Canolee is

40:48

based on my co-host Mark's best-selling book

40:51

of the same title. And on this

40:53

show, we call upon his years of

40:55

research to help unpack the story behind

40:57

the godfather's birth from start to finish.

40:59

This is really the first interview I've

41:01

done in bad. We sift through innumerable

41:03

accounts. Many of them conflicting. And that's

41:05

nonsense. You can go with 60 pages.

41:08

And try to get to the truth

41:10

of what really happened. And they said,

41:12

we're finished, this is over. They'll only

41:14

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41:16

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41:20

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41:27

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41:33

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get your podcasts. This

41:40

is countdown with Keith Alberman.

42:02

Still ahead on this edition

42:04

of countdown, the newspaper The

42:06

Columbus Dispatch notifies us that

42:08

Thurber House, the museum, former

42:10

Thurber family home, the literary

42:13

non-profit operation supporting writers and

42:15

perpetuating the work of America's

42:17

most versatile humorist and satirist,

42:19

is in financial trouble. Needs

42:21

200,000 to keep going in large part

42:23

because fewer and fewer people know who

42:26

James Thurber was. I have done my best

42:28

to keep him prominent. We had a

42:30

brief resurgence when I used to read

42:32

his stories on TV, but here I

42:34

have failed him. I haven't done one

42:36

Thurber's story since we switched to two

42:39

podcasts a week, so in hopes that

42:41

you will help bring him front mind

42:43

again. I will bring you today not

42:45

just one, but two Thurber's and not

42:47

just two Thurber's, but my favorite Thurber

42:49

and my late father's favorite Thurber story.

42:52

Fitting, since this Thursday it will have

42:54

been 15 years since my father died, and

42:56

I was reading it to him when he

42:58

died. Now, honestly, it went better

43:00

than that sounds. James Thurber

43:02

forever. First, believe it or not, there's

43:05

still more new idiots to talk

43:07

about, the roundup of the miscreants'

43:09

morons and Dunning Kruger effect specimens

43:12

who constitute two days, other, worst

43:14

persons in the world! And this

43:17

episode is dedicated to the new

43:19

rule they are experimenting with in

43:21

baseball spring training. The automatic balls

43:24

and strikes system, in which a

43:26

batter, catcher or pitcher can appeal

43:29

the umpire's ball or strike call,

43:31

and you get a computerized review

43:33

in like 15 seconds on the

43:36

scoreboard. I like it. It's terrific,

43:38

but I think they may have

43:40

to change the name, because it's

43:42

already known by its acronym. It

43:45

is the ABS system, which... If

43:47

you were mean-spirited, and I am,

43:49

you could alter your pronunciation of

43:51

that and simply call it a

43:53

B-S system. Fix the

43:55

acronym. Anyway, here are the

43:58

nominees, the bronze, worse. Once

44:00

again, Stephen A. Smith. I hope he has

44:02

learned that getting into politics

44:04

means more than putting your fingers

44:06

to your lips pensively and trying to

44:09

look serious, but I don't think so.

44:11

Yes, P.N. is giving him reportedly

44:13

a five-year $100 million new contract

44:15

and cool. I am all for

44:17

the talent having the money and

44:19

the owners not having the money.

44:21

Should have held out for $101

44:23

million, my friend. But part of this

44:26

deal will allow Stephen to talk even

44:28

more politics in venues other than ESPN.

44:30

And I swear to you, when I

44:33

was at ESPN, I insisted that I

44:35

would not and should not be allowed

44:37

to do, and nobody else should be

44:40

allowed to do, politics in other venues

44:42

while doing sports at ESPN. Not, don't,

44:44

and I didn't. We did this

44:46

at MS NBC, and on

44:49

NBC Football Night in America

44:51

years ago, ending in 2009,

44:53

2010, and basically, that was

44:55

the last time it didn't

44:57

end in utter disaster. Even

45:00

before that Rush Limbaugh tried

45:02

it, and it ended in

45:04

utter disaster, at ESPN.

45:06

This, with Stephen A, will end

45:08

in tears. Especially if Stephen

45:11

lets himself get played like a $2

45:13

banjo every time he steps into the

45:15

arena. This is him about an interview

45:17

guest on one of his podcasts. And

45:20

I'll spare you my impression of him.

45:22

When that young lady speaks, don't even

45:24

think about challenging her ability to articulate

45:27

her point of view. You better know

45:29

what the hell you're talking about when

45:31

you come at her. That's what I

45:34

take away just as much as anything

45:36

else. You get the idea that Stephen is

45:38

paid by the word. I can't wait until

45:40

she and I sit face to face one

45:42

day and volley back and forth about what

45:44

we feel, what we believe, what we stand

45:46

for, and why? Because I'm certainly different than

45:48

her when it comes to some political position

45:50

she's taken and beyond. There is no doubt

45:52

about that, but I can't deny she's sharp

45:54

as a tack and you damn well better

45:56

be if you're going to come for her,

45:58

because ladies and gentlemen... This went on

46:01

for another 17 days. Who

46:03

is she? Was he talking

46:05

about? Who is the she

46:07

in this equation? Candace Owens!

46:09

Candace Effing Owens! The woman

46:12

that the fascists cite the

46:14

Daily Wire fired because they

46:16

said she was too anti-Semitic

46:18

even for them. Candace Effing

46:20

Owens, who 10 years ago

46:23

was writing about quote, the

46:25

bad shit crazy antics of

46:27

the Republican Tea Party, and

46:29

then she discovered the real

46:31

money was being one of

46:34

the bad shit crazy Republican

46:36

Tea Party. Stephen, if you

46:38

want to cover politics or

46:40

run for office pro-tip, take

46:43

some of that $100 million

46:45

and buy a guide dog.

46:47

The runner-up? Orser? Orser? Elong!

46:49

I'm just going to quote politics.

46:51

Take some of that 100 million

46:54

dollars and buy a guide dog.

46:56

The runner-up? Orser? Elon...

46:58

I'm just going to quote

47:00

Politico about Musk here. Elon

47:02

Musk defended himself to a

47:04

room full of House Republicans, saying

47:07

that he can't bat a thousand

47:09

all the time, according to four

47:11

people present for his remarks. Okay,

47:14

I realize Elon is an immigrant.

47:16

Possibly an immigrant who game the

47:18

system and the laws and has

47:20

no record or you fall into

47:23

you, Torp. Also, Elon is not

47:25

batting 989 or something. He's batting

47:27

about 091. But our winner, the

47:30

Prime Minister of New Zealand, Christopher

47:32

Luxon. Now, New Zealand used

47:34

to have a thoughtful, brilliant,

47:36

brave, humane, though sometimes unintelligible

47:38

because of that accent Prime

47:41

Minister named Jacinda Arderne. Now

47:43

it has a bald right-winger

47:45

named Luxon. New Zealand's senior

47:47

envoy to the United Kingdom,

47:49

former head of their labor

47:51

party Phil Goff, got up

47:53

an event in London after

47:56

Trump started his war crimes

47:58

against Zelenski and Ukraine. and

48:00

Mr. Goff compared what Trump did

48:02

to what the British government and

48:05

Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain and the

48:07

then outsider Winston Churchill did after

48:09

Chamberlain sold out Czechoslovakia to Hitler

48:12

at Munich in 1938. Mr. Goff

48:14

said, quote, President Trump has restored

48:17

the bust of Churchill to the

48:19

Oval Office, but do you think

48:21

he really understands history? Goff then

48:24

quoted Churchill to Chamberlain and his

48:26

government in Parliament after the infamous...

48:29

War starting betrayal of Czechoslovakia. Quote,

48:31

you had the choice between war

48:33

and dishonor, you chose dishonor, yet

48:35

you will have war. New Zealand's

48:37

foreign minister Winston Peters, who

48:40

turns 80 next month and is

48:42

the head of New Zealand first,

48:44

immediately fired Mr. Goff. His prime

48:46

minister Luxon, who he did not

48:48

inform of the firing, backed him

48:51

up. Why did they fire Goff? Because

48:53

diplomats you're supposed to

48:56

talk diplomatically. It

48:59

sounds like Mr. Luxon could

49:01

be running the Democratic Party

49:03

in this country. Anyway, before he

49:06

became Prime Minister of New Zealand,

49:08

Luxon was on the Unilever Company

49:10

executive ladder where he rose to

49:13

the position of, I swear, I

49:15

swear this is true, he was

49:17

director of the global deodorance and

49:20

grooming category. Which part

49:22

of that sounds the most

49:24

embarrassing? And what do you do for

49:26

the company here? I'm in charge of

49:28

grooming! What do you do for the

49:31

company here? I'm in charge of

49:33

global deodorants! All the deodorants in

49:35

the world! I know, that's more of an

49:37

Australian accent, I apologize

49:39

New Zealand. Now this is bad

49:42

enough. Goff is quoting Winston

49:44

Churchill, is pointing out reality,

49:46

and is doing what real political

49:48

leaders are supposed to do,

49:50

giving a middle finger to

49:52

deathpots like Donald Trump, and

49:54

they fired him. for making

49:56

New Zealand diplomatic efforts

49:58

look bad. But just to

50:00

add to this, he was fired for

50:03

doing what I did after the

50:05

Trump ambush of Zelenski, quoting Winston

50:07

Churchill, and you had the choice

50:09

between war and dishonor, you chose dishonor,

50:11

yet you will have war. So I'm

50:14

taking this personally, bro. New

50:16

Zealand's Prime Minister Christopher, you

50:18

need more global deodorance, because

50:21

your spit does too stink. Luxon,

50:23

two days, other, worst person, end

50:25

the worst person, end the worst. End

50:27

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50:51

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50:53

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54:29

this story first aloud in a

54:32

class in college in 1979, and

54:34

a friend of mine came up

54:36

to me and said, you should

54:39

forget that sportscasting thing, you should

54:41

read Thurber for a living. And

54:43

I said, yeah, that'll ever

54:45

happen. This is for some

54:47

reason, salvation for me, catharsis,

54:49

and every other emotion that

54:51

is appropriate after it has been,

54:54

a long week. A box to hide

54:56

in. by James Thurber.

54:58

I waited till the

55:00

large woman with the

55:03

awful hat took up

55:05

her sack of groceries

55:07

and went out,

55:09

peering at the tomatoes

55:11

and the lettuce on

55:13

her way. The clerk

55:15

asked me what mine

55:18

was. Have you got a

55:20

box? I asked. A large

55:22

box. I want a box

55:25

to hide in. He asked. I

55:27

want a box to hide in, I

55:29

said. What do you mean? He said.

55:31

You mean a big box? I said

55:33

I meant a big box, big

55:35

enough to hold me. I haven't

55:37

got any boxes, he said.

55:40

Only cottons that cans come

55:42

in. I tried several other groceries

55:44

and none of them had

55:46

a box big enough for me

55:48

to hide in. There was nothing

55:50

for it but to face life

55:53

out. I didn't feel strong and

55:55

I'd had this overpowering desire to

55:57

hide in a box for a

55:59

long... time. What do you mean

56:01

you want to hide in this

56:04

box? One grocer asked me.

56:06

It's a form of escape, I

56:08

told him. Hiding in a box.

56:10

It circumscribes your worries and

56:13

the range of your anguish.

56:15

You don't see people either.

56:17

How the hell do you

56:19

eat when you're in this box?

56:21

Asked the grocer. How do

56:23

you get anything to eat? I

56:26

said I had never been in a

56:28

box and didn't know but that that

56:30

would take care of itself. Well,

56:33

he said finally, I haven't

56:35

got any boxes, only

56:37

some pasteboard cartons that

56:39

cans come in. It was the same

56:41

every place. I gave up when

56:43

it got dark and the groceries

56:46

closed and hid in my room

56:48

again. I turned out the light and lay

56:50

on the bed. You feel better when

56:52

it gets dark. I could have

56:55

hid in the closet, I

56:57

suppose, but people are always

56:59

opening doors. Somebody would find

57:01

you in a closet. They would be

57:04

startled, and you'd have to tell

57:06

them why you're in the closet.

57:08

Nobody pays attention to a big

57:10

box lying on the floor. You

57:13

could stay in it for days,

57:15

and nobody'd think to look in

57:17

it, not even the cleaning woman.

57:21

My cleaning woman came the

57:24

next morning and woke me up.

57:26

I was still feeling bad. I

57:28

asked her if she knew where I

57:30

could get a large box. How big

57:33

a box you want, she asked.

57:35

I want a box big enough

57:37

for me to get inside of,

57:39

I said. She looked at me

57:41

with big, dim eyes. There's something

57:44

wrong with her glance. She's awful,

57:46

but she has a big heart which makes

57:48

it worse. She's un- variable. Her husband is

57:50

sick and her children are sick and she

57:53

is sick too. I got to thinking how

57:55

pleasant it would be if I were in

57:57

a box now and didn't have to see

57:59

her. I'd be in a box right

58:01

there in the room and she wouldn't

58:04

know. I wondered if you had a

58:06

desire to bark or laugh when someone

58:08

who doesn't know walks by the box

58:11

you're in. Maybe she would have a

58:13

spell with her heart if I did

58:15

that would die right there. The officers

58:17

and the elevator man and

58:19

Mr. Gramage would find us.

58:21

Funny doggone thing happened at

58:24

the building last night. The door

58:26

man would say to his wife, I

58:28

let him this woman to clean up

58:30

10F and she never come out, see.

58:32

She's never in there more than an

58:34

hour, but she never come out, see. So

58:37

when it got time for me to go

58:39

off duty, why I asked her to credit

58:41

who was on the elevator, I

58:43

says, what the hell you suppose

58:45

has happened that woman cleans 10F?

58:47

He says, he didn't see her

58:50

after he took her up. So

58:52

I spoke to Mr. Grammage about

58:54

it. So I told him. So

58:56

he said, we better have a

58:58

look, and we all three goes

59:00

up and knocks on the door

59:03

and rings the bell, seeing nobody

59:05

answers. So he said, we'd have

59:07

to walk in, so Krennic opened

59:10

the door, and we walked in,

59:12

and here was this woman, cleans

59:14

the apartment, dead as a herring

59:16

on the floor, and the

59:19

gentleman that lives there, was

59:21

in a box. It was

59:23

hard to realize she

59:25

wasn't dead. It's a

59:27

form of escape, I

59:29

murmured. What say? She asked,

59:32

dully. You don't know

59:34

of any large packing

59:36

boxes, do you? I

59:38

asked. No, I don't, she

59:40

said. I haven't found

59:43

one yet, but I

59:45

still have this overpowering

59:47

urge to hide in

59:49

a box. Maybe

59:51

it will go away. Maybe

59:53

I'll be all right. Maybe

59:56

it will get worse. It's

59:58

hard to say. A

1:00:02

Box to Hide in by James

1:00:04

Thurber. And I don't know when

1:00:06

I went to Sullivan became my

1:00:08

father's favorite Thurber story. I suspect

1:00:10

it was in the hospital when

1:00:13

I was reading to him in

1:00:15

the last six months of his

1:00:17

life. I know I read it

1:00:19

to him at least half a

1:00:21

dozen times, the first five by

1:00:23

his request. The last time... He

1:00:25

did not request it. In fact,

1:00:28

and this is the most perverse

1:00:30

kind of compliment I think any

1:00:32

writer has ever received, I read

1:00:34

this story to him. It was

1:00:36

the last thing that I read

1:00:38

to him. In fact, it was

1:00:41

the last thing he did on

1:00:43

earth was to listen to this

1:00:45

story in a state of semi-consciousness.

1:00:47

He waited till the end of

1:00:49

it. He took one deep satisfied

1:00:51

breath and he died. I don't

1:00:53

recommend this, but I think it

1:00:56

does speak to the quality of

1:00:58

the quality of the writing. I

1:01:00

went to Sullivan by James Thurber.

1:01:02

I was reminded the other morning,

1:01:04

by what I don't remember, and

1:01:06

it doesn't matter, of a crisp

1:01:09

September morning last year when I

1:01:11

went to the Grand Central to

1:01:13

see a little boy of ten

1:01:15

get excitedly on a special coach

1:01:17

that was to take him to

1:01:19

a boy's school somewhere north of

1:01:22

Boston. He had never been away

1:01:24

to school before. The coach was

1:01:26

squirming with youngsters. You could tell

1:01:28

after a while the Novitiates, shining

1:01:30

and tremulous and a little odd,

1:01:32

from the more aloof boys who

1:01:34

had been away to school before.

1:01:37

But they were very much alike

1:01:39

at first glance. There was for

1:01:41

me, in case you thought I

1:01:43

was leading up to that, no

1:01:45

sharp feeling of old lost years

1:01:47

in the tense atmosphere of that

1:01:50

coach, because I never went away

1:01:52

to a private school when I

1:01:54

was a little boy. I went

1:01:56

to Sullivan School in Columbus. I

1:01:58

thought about it as I walked

1:02:00

back to my hotel. Sullivan was

1:02:02

an ordinary public school and yet

1:02:05

it was not like any other...

1:02:07

I have ever known of. In

1:02:09

seeking an adjective to describe the

1:02:11

Sullivant School of my years, 1900

1:02:13

and 1908, I can only think

1:02:15

of tough. Sullivant School was tough.

1:02:18

The boys of Sullivant came mostly

1:02:20

from the region around central market,

1:02:22

a poorish district with many families

1:02:24

of the laboring class. The school

1:02:26

district also included a number of

1:02:28

homes of the upper classes because

1:02:30

at the turn of the century,

1:02:33

one or two old residential streets

1:02:35

still lingered near the shouting and

1:02:37

rumbling of the market, reluctant to

1:02:39

surrender their fine old houses to

1:02:41

the encroaching rabble of commerce and

1:02:43

become, as a last they now

1:02:46

have, more vulgar business streets. I

1:02:48

remember always, first of all, the

1:02:50

Sullivan Baseball team. Most grammar school

1:02:52

baseball teams are made up of

1:02:54

boys in the seventh and eighth

1:02:56

grades, or they were in my

1:02:59

day, but with Sullivan it was

1:03:01

different. Several of its best players

1:03:03

were in the fourth grade, known

1:03:05

to the teachers of the school

1:03:07

as the terrible fourth. In that

1:03:09

grade you first encountered fractions and

1:03:11

long division. And many pupils lodged

1:03:14

there for years, like logs in

1:03:16

a brook. Some of the more

1:03:18

able baseball players had been in

1:03:20

the fourth grade for seven or

1:03:22

eight years. Then, too, there were

1:03:24

a number of boys who had

1:03:27

not been in the class past

1:03:29

the normal time, but were nevertheless

1:03:31

deep into their teens. They had

1:03:33

avoided starting to school by eluding

1:03:35

the truant officer until they were

1:03:37

ready to go into long pants.

1:03:39

but he always got them in

1:03:42

the end. One or two of

1:03:44

these fourth graders were 17 or

1:03:46

18 years old, but the dean

1:03:48

of the squad was a tall,

1:03:50

husky young man of 22, who

1:03:52

was in the fifth grade. The

1:03:55

teachers of the third and fourth

1:03:57

had got tired of having him

1:03:59

around. as the years rolled along

1:04:01

and had pushed him on. His

1:04:03

name was Dana Wayney and he

1:04:05

had a mustache. Don't ask me

1:04:07

why his parents allowed him to

1:04:10

stay in school so long. There

1:04:12

were many mysteries at Sullivan that

1:04:14

were never cleared up. All I

1:04:16

know is why he kept on

1:04:18

in school and didn't go to

1:04:20

work. He liked playing on the

1:04:23

baseball team. And he had a

1:04:25

pretty easy time in class because

1:04:27

the teachers had given up asking

1:04:29

him any questions at all years

1:04:31

before. The story was that he

1:04:33

had answered but one question in

1:04:36

the 17 years he had been

1:04:38

going to classes at Sullivan, and

1:04:40

that was, what is one use

1:04:42

of the comma? The commie, said

1:04:44

Dana, embarrassingly unsnarling his long legs

1:04:46

from beneath a desk much too

1:04:48

low for him, is used to

1:04:51

shoot mobils with... Comis was our

1:04:53

word for those cheap 10% marbles

1:04:55

in case it wasn't yours. The

1:04:57

Sullivan School baseball team of 1950-5

1:04:59

defeated several high school teams in

1:05:01

the city and claimed the high

1:05:04

school championship of the state to

1:05:06

which title it had of course

1:05:08

no technical right. I believe the

1:05:10

boys could have proved their moral

1:05:12

right to the championship, however, if

1:05:14

they had been allowed to go

1:05:16

out of town and play all

1:05:19

the teams they challenged, such as

1:05:21

the powerful Dayton and Toledo Nines.

1:05:23

But their road season was called

1:05:25

off after a terrific fight that

1:05:27

occurred during one game at Mount

1:05:29

Sterling, or Piqua, or Zenia. I

1:05:32

can remember which. Our first baseman,

1:05:34

Dana Wayne. crowned the umpire with

1:05:36

a bat during an altercation over

1:05:38

called strike and the fight was

1:05:40

on. It took place in the

1:05:42

fourth inning so of course the

1:05:44

game was never finished. The battle

1:05:47

continued on down into the business

1:05:49

section of the town and raged

1:05:51

for hours with much destruction of

1:05:53

property. But since Sullivan was ahead

1:05:55

at the time 17 to nothing

1:05:57

there could have been no... doubt

1:06:00

as to the outcome. Nobody was

1:06:02

killed. All of us boys were sure our

1:06:04

team could have beaten Ohio State

1:06:07

University that year, but they

1:06:09

wouldn't play us. They were

1:06:11

scared. Wayney was by no means the

1:06:13

biggest or toughest guy on the

1:06:15

grammar school team. He was merely

1:06:18

the oldest, being about a year

1:06:20

the senior of Floyd, the center

1:06:22

fielder, who could jump five feet

1:06:24

straight into the air without taking

1:06:27

a running start. Nobody knew.

1:06:29

And even the Board of Education,

1:06:31

which once tried to find out

1:06:33

whether Floyd was Floyd's first name,

1:06:35

or his last name. He

1:06:37

apparently only had one. He didn't

1:06:40

have any parents, and nobody,

1:06:42

including himself, seemed to know

1:06:44

where he lived. When teachers

1:06:47

insisted that he must have another

1:06:49

name to go with Floyd, he would

1:06:51

grow sullen. and ominous, and they

1:06:53

would cease questioning him because

1:06:55

he was a dangerous scholar

1:06:57

in a schoolroom brawl. As

1:06:59

Mr. Harrigan, the janitor, found

1:07:01

out one morning when he

1:07:03

was called in by a screaming teacher,

1:07:05

all our teachers were women, to

1:07:08

get Floyd under control after she

1:07:10

had tried to whip him, and

1:07:12

he had begun to take the

1:07:14

room apart, beginning with the

1:07:16

desks. Floyd broke into small pieces

1:07:18

the switch she had used on

1:07:21

him. Some said he also ate it. I

1:07:23

don't know because I was home sick at

1:07:25

the time with mumps or something. Harrigan

1:07:27

was a burly iron-muscled janitor, man come

1:07:29

from a long line of coal

1:07:31

shovelers, but he was no match

1:07:34

for Floyd who had to be

1:07:36

sure the considerable advantage of being

1:07:38

more aroused than Mr. Harrigan when

1:07:40

their fight started. Floyd had him down

1:07:42

and was sitting on his chest in

1:07:44

no time and Harrigan had to promise

1:07:47

to be good and to say, that's

1:07:49

what I get! ten times before Floyd

1:07:51

would let him up. I don't

1:07:53

suppose I would ever have got

1:07:56

through Sullivan School alive if it

1:07:58

hadn't been for Floyd. For

1:08:00

some reason he appointed himself

1:08:02

my protector, and I needed

1:08:04

one. If Floyd was known to be

1:08:06

on your side, nobody in the school

1:08:09

would dare be after you and chase

1:08:11

you home. I was one of the

1:08:13

ten or fifteen male pupils in Sullivan

1:08:15

School who always, or almost always, knew

1:08:18

their lessons. And I believe Floyd admired

1:08:20

the mental prowess of a youngster

1:08:22

who knew how many continents there

1:08:25

were, and whether or not the sun

1:08:27

was inhabited. Also, one time

1:08:29

when it came to be my

1:08:31

turn to read to the class,

1:08:34

we used to take turns reading

1:08:36

American history aloud, I came across

1:08:38

the word Duquesne and knew how to

1:08:40

pronounce it. That charmed Floyd,

1:08:42

who had been slouched in

1:08:45

his seat idly following the

1:08:47

printed page of his worn

1:08:49

and penciled textbook. How you

1:08:51

know that was Duquesne, boy? He

1:08:53

asked me after class. I don't know,

1:08:55

I said. I just knew it. He looked

1:08:58

at me with round eyes. Boy, that's

1:09:00

something, he said. After that, word got

1:09:02

around that Floyd would beat the tar

1:09:04

out of anybody that messed around with

1:09:07

me. I wore glasses from the time I

1:09:09

was eight and I knew with me. I wore

1:09:11

glasses from the time I was

1:09:13

eight and I knew my lessons,

1:09:15

and both of those things were

1:09:17

considered pretty terrible at Sullivan. Floyd

1:09:19

had one idiosyncrasy, though. In

1:09:21

the early 1900s, long, warm,

1:09:24

furry gloves that came almost

1:09:26

to your elbows were popular

1:09:28

with boys, and Floyd had

1:09:30

one of the biggest pairs

1:09:32

in school. He wore them

1:09:35

the year-round. Dick Peterson

1:09:37

was an either and greater

1:09:39

figure on the baseball team

1:09:41

and in the school than Floyd

1:09:43

was he had away in

1:09:45

the classroom of blurting out

1:09:47

a long deep rolling Bia

1:09:49

For no reason at all once

1:09:51

he licked three boys his own

1:09:53

size single-handed really single-handed

1:09:56

for he fought with

1:09:58

his right hand and

1:10:00

held a mandolin in his left

1:10:02

hand all the time. It

1:10:04

came out uninjured. Dick

1:10:06

and Floyd never met in Mortal Kombat,

1:10:08

so nobody ever knew which one

1:10:10

could beat, and the scholars

1:10:13

were about evenly divided in their opinions.

1:10:15

Many a fight started among them after school,

1:10:18

and the argument came up. I

1:10:20

think school never let out at Sullivan, without

1:10:23

at least one fight starting up, and sometimes

1:10:25

there was many as five or six raging

1:10:27

between the corner of oak and sixth streets,

1:10:29

and the corner of rich and fourth streets

1:10:31

four blocks away. Now

1:10:33

and again, virtually the whole school

1:10:35

turned out to fight the Catholic

1:10:37

boys of the Holy Cross Academy

1:10:39

in Fifth Street near town, for

1:10:42

no reason at all, in winter

1:10:44

with snowballs and ice balls, in

1:10:46

other seasons with fists, brick bats,

1:10:49

and clubs. Dick Peterson

1:10:51

was always in the van yelling,

1:10:53

singing, be -i -ing, whirling all the

1:10:55

way around when he swung with

1:10:57

his right, or if he hadn't

1:10:59

brought his mandolin, his left, and

1:11:01

missed. He made

1:11:03

himself the pitcher on the baseball team because he

1:11:05

was the captain. He was

1:11:07

the captain because everybody else

1:11:09

was afraid to challenge his self

1:11:11

-election, except Floyd. Floyd

1:11:14

was too lazy to pitch, and he didn't care

1:11:16

who was captain because he didn't fully comprehend

1:11:18

what that meant. On one

1:11:20

occasion, when Earl Battak, a steam

1:11:22

fitter's son, had shut out Mound

1:11:24

Street School for six innings without

1:11:26

a hit, Dick took him out

1:11:28

of the pitcher's box and went

1:11:30

in himself. He was hit

1:11:32

hard and the other team scored, but it

1:11:34

didn't make much difference because the margin of Sullivan's

1:11:36

victory was so great. The team

1:11:39

didn't lose a game for

1:11:41

five years to another grammar school.

1:11:44

When Dick Peterson was in the

1:11:46

sixth grade, he got into a

1:11:48

saloon brawl and was killed. When

1:11:52

I go back to Columbus, I always walk

1:11:54

past Sullivan School. I have never happened to

1:11:56

get there when classes were letting out, so

1:11:58

I don't know what the pupils are like now.

1:12:00

I am sure there are no

1:12:02

more Dick Peterson's and no more

1:12:04

Floyd's. Unless Floyd is still going

1:12:07

to school there. The play yard

1:12:09

is still entirely bare of grass

1:12:11

and covered with gravel and the

1:12:13

Sycamore still line the curb between

1:12:15

the schoolhouse fence and the Oak

1:12:17

Street car line. A street car

1:12:19

line running past a schoolhouse is

1:12:22

a dangerous thing as a rule,

1:12:24

but I remember no one being

1:12:26

injured while I was attending Sullivan

1:12:28

I do remember, however, one person

1:12:30

who came very near being injured,

1:12:32

he was a motorman on the

1:12:34

Oak Street line. And once when

1:12:37

his car stopped at the corner

1:12:39

of six to let off passengers,

1:12:41

he yelled at Choudi Davidson, who

1:12:43

played third base on the ball

1:12:45

team and was a member of

1:12:47

the terrible fourth, to get out

1:12:50

of the way. Choudi was 14

1:12:52

years old, but huge for his

1:12:54

age, and he was standing on

1:12:56

the tracks taking a chew of

1:12:58

tobacco. Come on down off of

1:13:00

that car, I'll not get block

1:13:02

off! said Judy in what I

1:13:05

can only describe as a Sullivan

1:13:07

tone of voice. The motor man

1:13:09

waited until Judy moved slowly off

1:13:11

the tracks. Then he went on

1:13:13

about his business. I think it

1:13:15

was lucky for him that he

1:13:17

did. There were boys in those

1:13:20

days. I went to Sullivan by

1:13:22

James Thurber. Thurber

1:13:36

House, Columbus, Ohio. I don't know,

1:13:39

maybe we can find out another

1:13:41

book, audio book of Thurber's stories.

1:13:43

I did one, it's available, where

1:13:46

audio books are available. I don't

1:13:48

think it's on iTunes, it's called

1:13:50

the Thurber Audio Collection. I don't

1:13:53

think you can find it using

1:13:55

my name, but it's there. They

1:13:58

get all the money. Anyway,

1:14:00

I've done all the damage I can

1:14:02

do here. More on Thurber later as

1:14:04

I think of it. Thanks for listening.

1:14:06

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1:14:08

musical directors of Countdown, arranged, produced, and

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1:14:12

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1:14:17

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1:14:19

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1:14:36

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1:14:38

Kenny Maine. Everything else was, as

1:14:40

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