1:06

Women . As you know , anita , we are

1:08

so multifaceted , and

1:10

one thing about it is I've lived

1:12

long enough to know that we can

1:15

be utterly successful in one

1:17

area of our lives and

1:19

in another we're falling apart , and

1:22

sometimes , because we are

1:24

the strong women that we are , we

1:26

just sweep things under the rug

1:28

. We'll deal with the falling apart later

1:30

or not , and we just try to keep

1:32

going and going and going until

1:35

we can .

1:36

Today's guest is Dr Rhonda Simmons

1:38

. Dr Rhonda offers a unique

1:40

blend of expertise that include

1:43

over 30 years in senior

1:45

ministry and 15

1:47

years in education as a teacher

1:49

and school principal . She

1:56

is the founder CEO of a non-profit organization , the

1:58

Simmons Empowerment Foundation , incorporated

2:01

in brackets , tsefi

2:05

. Its vision is to provide

2:08

a home for unwed teen

2:10

mums by offering safe housing

2:12

and opportunities for personal

2:15

growth and development . As

2:17

a master certified student

2:19

success coach for

2:21

TSEFI

2:23

, dear Future Me

2:26

, the coaching program Dr

2:28

Simmons empowers at-risk

2:30

students through coaching sessions

2:32

that are designed to improve

2:34

their college career and military

2:37

readiness . Welcome , dr

2:39

Rhonda .

2:40

Hi , how are you ? Good to see

2:42

you again . I mean , I'm glad to

2:44

be here Absolutely well

2:46

.

2:46

Thank you very much . Well , after

2:49

reading that , I have so many questions

2:51

, but let's start with what's one of

2:53

the most courageous things that you

2:55

have done , I tell you .

2:56

It's hard to narrow the list because

2:59

so many things come to mind , but

3:02

the most recent courageous thing that

3:04

I did was I

3:06

left my job last month

3:08

as a school principal , for

3:10

two reasons One , because

3:13

being a school principal

3:15

is not conducive

3:17

to good health . It's

3:19

a very stressful job and , as

3:22

I tell my husband , dead people don't work

3:24

. So that

3:27

was one reason , and the other reason is

3:30

that I knew that the job did

3:32

not align with my purpose . It

3:35

was a courageous move for me

3:37

because I'm a person

3:39

who likes to have plans and backup

3:41

plans to the plans , and

3:44

this was a move where there was no

3:46

backup plan , but I knew I had to

3:48

do it and it

3:50

was . It

3:52

was quite a quite a feat all

3:55

the way up to the moment that I clicked

3:57

send to send my notice of resignation

3:59

, but it was something that had to be done and

4:01

no regrets .

4:03

Wow , that is courageous

4:05

, absolutely , especially

4:08

if you're a person like you said the

4:10

backup plan on top of black backup

4:12

plan to make sure you got all

4:14

areas covered yeah is it

4:16

unknown now ? Yes

4:19

, absolutely

4:22

so what took you

4:24

on your journey of starting your non-profit organization

4:27

, the organization the Simmons Empowerment

4:29

Foundation , incorporated

4:32

.

4:32

Well , actually I started the

4:35

foundation right in the middle

4:37

of the pandemic , but

4:39

it was a result of a vision

4:41

that God gave me 21

4:43

years ago , right before I moved to Texas , and

4:46

that vision was to start a home

4:48

for unwed teen moms . And

4:51

it's funny because that vision came

4:53

as an answer to prayer

4:55

, because in moving halfway

4:58

across the country , I didn't

5:00

know anyone here other than my husband and

5:02

I just prayed what am I supposed

5:05

to do when I get here

5:07

? And I was not prepared

5:09

for the response that I got , because

5:11

that's certainly not what I was thinking , but

5:14

that was the vision that

5:16

God gave me . And what is really interesting

5:19

, anita , is that me

5:22

being the neurodivergent person that

5:25

I am I typed

5:27

up what I did not realize

5:29

was really the skeleton

5:31

of a business plan at

5:34

that time , and I typed

5:36

it up and printed it out and , life

5:39

being life , I

5:41

completely forgot about the paper . I

5:43

didn't think about it because

5:45

so much of life was happening and my

5:47

husband was in the military active

5:50

duty and so a lot's happening

5:52

over the years . And it wasn't

5:54

until I was about to move

5:56

again in 2021 and

5:59

I was cleaning my office and

6:01

I found the paper that

6:04

I typed up 21 years ago

6:06

and what was so interesting

6:08

to me is that I

6:10

would say 95% of

6:12

the things that I had written down 21

6:15

years ago I was already doing

6:17

in my foundation , you

6:33

know , and so the vision has that God gave me for

6:35

the foundation , and

6:39

so that's how we got here

6:41

and things have

6:43

just expanded .

6:45

Wow , that's absolutely what

6:48

I would say . A true calling , then .

6:50

Yes , absolutely . And you know

6:52

, sometimes , when you're not , sometimes

6:54

, or actually all the time probably when

6:57

you are the head of a movement

6:59

or the head of an organization

7:02

, it requires you to make some hard

7:04

, fearless decisions . And

7:07

when 2024 rolled around

7:09

, I really felt led

7:11

that it was time to

7:14

get a new board of directors . And

7:17

it's not that the ladies

7:19

on my board had done anything wrong

7:21

they had not . Wonderful ladies , one

7:23

of them I'd been friends with for over 30

7:25

years , great ladies . I

7:28

just knew that God was taking our foundation

7:30

in a different direction this year

7:32

and I didn't feel

7:35

like I had the right people in

7:37

place to make that shift

7:39

with me . Again , the

7:42

board members I had were wonderful . I have no

7:44

complaints , nothing to say negative

7:46

at all at all , but

7:49

this is how God works . When

7:51

I talked to them individually about

7:53

what I was thinking hard

8:01

conversations , you know they didn't say a word the entire conversation . And when I got to the end , they

8:03

were like oh my God , oh my goodness . I'm so glad you brought this up

8:06

, because I've been trying to figure out a way

8:08

to tell you how I could step down from

8:10

this position . Wow , yes

8:12

, yes . And so it just worked out

8:14

. And then

8:16

, after I made that big decision

8:19

and fearless and all of that , god

8:22

blessed me with two new

8:24

board members , one

8:27

who was in the UK , the other one who's in

8:29

Kenya . So now I have an international board

8:32

, we have launched an

8:34

initiative in Kenya , and so

8:37

now , you know , I had no idea

8:39

at the time , at

8:45

the beginning of the year , that God was going to make our foundation go global

8:47

. But here we are and I'm just amazed by it

8:49

all . And sometimes you

8:51

have to take that first fearless

8:53

step . You know , even though

8:55

you may not know every step

8:57

thereafter , it's that first

9:00

fearless step that is

9:02

the maker or breaker of

9:04

your vision , and so you have to be

9:06

prepared to do it .

9:08

Absolutely . I couldn't agree more . Oh

9:11

, that's absolutely wonderful . Well

9:13

done , Thank

9:16

you . So tell me more about

9:18

your . You know you're a senior

9:20

minister and 15 years

9:22

in education as a teacher , as a principal

9:24

. I know you've just said you've stepped

9:27

down due to stress , and I

9:29

can totally understand the stress

9:31

levels in education . So

9:34

how did you get into that ?

9:35

Into education . Well

9:39

, what's funny in

9:41

my life is just an interesting , interesting

9:44

web of events . But

9:46

I didn't get into education

9:49

until I was in

9:51

my early 40s . And

9:54

what's ironic is when I

9:56

was going through my teacher certification

9:59

program . I was well

10:01

into the program , almost finished

10:03

, before I

10:06

somehow remembered

10:08

that becoming an

10:10

educator was a childhood

10:13

dream of mine . I

10:15

remember distinctly as a child

10:17

, over the summer , I would save

10:19

all my workbooks and

10:21

any old textbooks they were getting rid

10:23

of because I would play

10:25

teacher at home . I was an only

10:27

child and so I had my invisible

10:29

friends , you know it's

10:32

a thing . And

10:35

so I would play teacher , you

10:38

know , and every summer , this is

10:40

what I'd love to do . And so

10:42

I was so amazed when that memory came back

10:44

because I thought , wow , how many people

10:46

get to actually say they're living their dream

10:49

, you know , and so

10:51

and you might be thinking well , if you

10:53

were living your dream , why did you walk away

10:55

? It's because God

10:57

operates in seasons . You have

10:59

to know when seasons

11:02

change , you know , and

11:04

it's kind of like you know how

11:06

, in the summer , when it's hot , you

11:08

know , you wear lighter clothing . You

11:10

just , you know you wear lighter clothing . You just , you know you dress

11:12

accordingly , but when the weather

11:14

changes , you dress accordingly

11:16

. You don't keep wearing the shorts

11:19

and the t-shirts and

11:21

all of that because that's

11:24

no longer , it no longer fits the season . And

11:27

so being sensitive to when the

11:29

seasons change is critical

11:32

for aligning with your purpose

11:34

. And

11:36

so and what's funny is , from my

11:38

first day of being a teacher , I knew I wanted to

11:40

become a principal . I had

11:42

no question in my mind , and

11:45

so I did it .

11:46

And then I walked away . Oh

11:49

wow , there seems to be a theme of you just

11:51

naturally falling into places

11:53

then hey . Yeah , yeah , I

11:55

guess you could say that , or

11:57

trust in faith .

11:59

Yes , yes , that's absolutely . You've

12:02

been in . I've been in active

12:04

senior ministry for over 30 years

12:07

. That has not stopped or changed

12:09

, and so I'm still

12:11

doing that . I've been

12:13

in ministry a long time , I

12:15

think . At first view it

12:18

would appear that my career in education

12:20

and my career in ministry are

12:22

two polar opposite things . I

12:26

don't know if it's because of my neurodivergence

12:28

. Know

12:33

if it's because of my neurodivergence , but there is so much overlap that I've

12:35

seen until it's just a seamless flow for me . And

12:38

the reason I say that is because

12:40

it all boils down to people

12:42

. As a school administrator , you're

12:45

pulled in so many different directions at

12:47

the same time . You have

12:50

to think from multiple perspectives . If you

12:52

don't master that art

12:54

, you will not be a successful

12:56

school administrator . You

12:59

have to be able to think from the

13:01

student's perspective , the parent's

13:03

perspective , the school board's perspective

13:06

, because some situations may get

13:08

to that point . You have to think

13:10

from multiple perspectives and be

13:12

able to find

13:14

that common ground . Your life

13:16

is filled with critical conversations

13:18

that you have to have and

13:21

you have to have thick skin . You

13:23

really do . You have to be

13:25

able to look

13:27

people in the eye , say what

13:29

needs to be said , but leave

13:31

their dignity intact . You

13:34

have to be able to have those hard conversations

13:36

and say it with love and respect

13:38

. And that is so much like

13:40

ministry , because ministry

13:43

is all about people . I don't care

13:45

how good a person preaches , where

13:47

they went to seminary , you

13:49

know , or Bible college , or you

13:51

know how much they may call themselves a

13:53

theologian . If you don't know

13:56

how to treat people and interact

13:58

with people , then all of that skill

14:00

and knowledge and expertise means

14:03

absolutely nothing . So

14:07

it's just a skill that

14:09

has helped me in every aspect

14:11

of my life and being able to communicate

14:14

effectively .

14:15

Can totally understand that , and well done

14:17

. Wow , that is a

14:19

lot . And yeah , it is . You

14:21

do wear many hats , don't you ?

14:24

I guess I do . I just don't

14:26

stop to think about it , because

14:29

if I do , then I might not put them on

14:31

.

14:33

Yeah , just carry on . You know , have

14:35

them all in their places . That's

14:37

excellent . You help people with

14:39

burnout . Explain

14:41

more about that and how did that come

14:44

about Well ?

14:46

in my coaching practice

14:48

, you know how you really have to

14:50

decide who your target audience

14:52

is , and because

14:55

you can't serve everybody , it's just

14:57

not possible . And so

14:59

you have to really figure

15:01

out who your target audience is , who

15:04

your ideal client is and

15:06

who you can

15:09

bring your best self to to help

15:11

. And , believe

15:14

it or not , I realized that I was my

15:16

ideal client in the sense

15:18

that I know what it is to be in

15:20

executive leadership . I

15:22

know what it is to have the weight

15:25

of that responsibility on your shoulders

15:27

. I know what it is

15:29

to put everything

15:31

else before your family , before

15:34

your own personal health , so that

15:36

the mission can be done . And

15:38

I get it . I understand it , but

15:41

at what price ? And

15:43

burnout is a true

15:45

, real thing , especially

15:49

amongst women

15:52

. There are multiple studies that show high

15:55

percentages of executive women

15:57

who are suffering from burnout

15:59

because they're trying to be

16:02

all of this in the boardroom

16:04

but yet in the family room

16:07

they they're , they're lacking

16:09

, because they just can't be all

16:11

and do all and they keep trying

16:13

. Part of it is because of gender

16:16

inequities . You know we have to work

16:19

harder to get remotely close

16:21

to what men are achieving , and

16:24

it shouldn't be that way , you know . But

16:26

this is the reality in which we live

16:28

, and so I want

16:30

to help those women who

16:33

are struggling to do

16:35

it all you know , with their marriages , their

16:37

careers , their callings , but

16:40

I want to help them find a path

16:42

to avoid burnout

16:44

.

16:45

Beautifully put . Beautifully put . I can

16:47

really understand that and I can hear your passion

16:49

.

16:50

Thank you . Thank you , I really can yeah

16:53

.

16:53

Because it is . I mean , I think

16:55

some people still see it as a taboo subject

16:58

, but it's a real thing , like you said

17:00

, and it should be more talked about because

17:03

it happens all the time and people

17:06

do see it as being inadequate

17:08

.

17:09

Yes , absolutely Absolutely

17:11

, when the truth of the matter is , we are powerhouses

17:14

. You know , when I was a principal

17:16

at the beginning of the school year

17:18

, I watched a lady during

17:22

the first week of school . I watched

17:24

her get out of her van

17:26

, get her one , two , three

17:29

I think she had four children . They

17:31

look like they were all probably

17:34

under the age of seven and

17:37

she got them all out of the car . I

17:39

think two might have been

17:41

a set of toddler twins . She

17:44

got them into their stroller

17:46

, got them strapped in . She

17:48

had the other one holding

17:51

one of the handles of the stroller

17:53

. She had another one holding

17:55

on to her pinky . The

18:03

one holding on to her pinky . She had the school supplies under one arm while

18:05

she used the other hand to push the other side of

18:07

the stroller . It was an absolute phenomenal sight

18:09

to see and she did it like

18:11

she had been doing this for years

18:13

. I mean , she had the system

18:15

down pat and to

18:17

me , the reason why that stuck in my brain

18:20

is that so epitomizes the

18:22

role of women . You know we

18:24

can , we can do it all . I mean we

18:26

it's . You know , yes

18:28

, we can do it all , but again

18:30

, at what price . You know I looked

18:33

at that poor lady and I thought when does she sleep

18:35

? You

18:38

know , and her kids were on time for school

18:40

, In fact they were a little bit early . They

18:42

looked clean , they were , they looked like

18:44

they had been well fed and well dressed

18:46

. You know , she had done all of that , no

18:48

telling what time she got up , but

18:50

they were there . And so those

18:53

are the women that I really want

18:55

to help , because I may

18:57

not be able to help how many children

18:59

you have , but we can definitely

19:02

find a path of

19:04

avoiding burnout , and

19:07

so that's just my heart and my passion

19:10

there .

19:11

Absolutely , and I can hear that . I

19:13

can really hear the passion . Thank

19:15

you , yeah , that's beautiful . So

19:30

you are the author of multiple

19:33

bestselling books .

19:34

Thank you . The book Dear Future

19:37

Me the Journey Begins . It's

19:40

a book written like a devotional

19:42

. It's a very easy read . You can

19:44

either read a chapter a day

19:47

or you can just read it straight through . Whatever

19:49

works best for you . But

19:51

the book is broken down into

19:54

three sections . One

19:56

has to do with dealing

19:59

with the

20:01

conflicts within relationships

20:03

. The second

20:05

is dealing with the

20:07

conflicts that arise within yourself

20:10

, and then the third is dealing

20:12

with the things that are beyond your

20:14

control , and the

20:16

significance of the book is that each

20:18

chapter is based upon

20:21

one word , and we just

20:23

built it out from there . It's a lot of fun to

20:25

write and in fact

20:27

, I'm hosting a

20:29

Dear Future Me Leadership

20:32

Transformation Mastermind next

20:34

month based on a portion

20:36

of the book , and so I'm real

20:38

excited about that . And

20:40

it's just it's , it's just great

20:43

. It's very , very exciting

20:45

for me . So it's , it's

20:47

just what I do .

20:48

Oh , excellent . Oh , that sounds

20:51

absolutely wonderful .

20:53

Yes .

20:53

And I'll put the links to your books in

20:55

the show notes and if anybody

20:57

wants to go ahead and get that , please do

21:00

yes , yes

21:02

, um , I believe the link that

21:04

I gave you is for , uh , the ebook

21:06

version of it .

21:07

You know , I know this is 2024 , so it's

21:10

the ebook version of the book and

21:13

I'm sure if they want hard copy they can get that

21:15

as well .

21:16

Yes , absolutely so

21:19

. That nicely goes on to my next question

21:21

. You host a podcast , empowered

21:24

heart to heart . Tell me

21:26

more , and who's that for ?

21:29

um well , uh , my

21:31

podcast takes a whole holistic

21:34

approach for uh

21:36

, empowering , uh women in

21:39

leadership and in

21:41

business , and holistic

21:44

means just that sometimes

21:47

we may be talking about women's health , other

21:49

times we may be talking about empowerment

21:51

, we may be talking about finances

21:54

. There's just a variety of things that we

21:56

talk about because women , as

21:58

you know , anita , we

22:00

are so multifaceted , and

22:02

one thing about it is I've lived

22:05

long enough to know that we can

22:07

be utterly successful in one

22:09

area of our lives and

22:11

in another we're falling apart

22:13

, you know and sometimes

22:15

, yeah , and sometimes

22:17

because we are the strong women

22:20

that we are , we just

22:22

, you know , sweep things under

22:24

the rug . We'll deal with the falling apart

22:26

, later or not , and we

22:28

just try to keep going and going and

22:30

going until we can't . And

22:34

so our podcast really

22:36

focuses on trying to help women

22:39

just become

22:41

better versions of themselves . As

22:43

our tagline says , we offer

22:46

messages of hope , conversations

22:48

that heal and interviews that empower

22:50

.

22:51

It's fabulous , absolutely fabulous

22:53

. I love that .

22:55

Thank you , thank you , and we're on

22:57

Spotify , amazon

23:00

Music , apple Podcasts

23:02

, iheart Radio , two

23:04

more that I always forget , oh

23:06

, pandora , and

23:09

I can't think of the sixth one

23:11

. But we're out there , we're all over the place

23:13

.

23:14

That's brilliant , absolutely brilliant

23:16

. Thank you . So this is a bit of

23:18

a tough question . After listening

23:20

to everything that you've done , what

23:23

is one of the most important lessons

23:25

you've learned over your life so far ?

23:27

One of the most important lessons that I've learned

23:30

is that if you will do

23:32

the work , you can turn your pain

23:34

into power . One of the things that I

23:36

have not told you up to this point about

23:39

my foundation is

23:41

that so many people think that the reason

23:43

I started the foundation is

23:45

because I was a teen mom , and

23:48

that's not true at all . I don't have any

23:50

children . That

23:52

is not . My connection

23:54

to the work is an

23:57

experience that I had about

24:00

25 years ago that

24:02

led to some deep-rooted

24:04

regret . During

24:06

that time , I was extremely sick

24:09

, just sick , just sick

24:11

. All year , from January until

24:13

December , I was sick , and

24:15

the short story is

24:17

that I had to

24:19

make a decision to

24:21

have surgery either

24:23

at that moment or wait

24:25

until I was in a life threatening situation

24:28

and have to have emergency surgery

24:30

. Either way , it seemed that the

24:32

surgery was inevitable , and

24:35

I knew . I went into

24:37

the situation with the full knowledge that

24:39

the surgery would leave me unable to have

24:41

children and

24:44

and at the time , you know , I was

24:46

still in ministry . I was traveling

24:48

all over the place and you know

24:50

, for the ministry and you know I

24:53

was at that time what I would

24:55

consider , or what I thought

24:57

was the height of my ministry

24:59

. That wasn't the case now that

25:01

I'm looking back at it in hindsight , but

25:04

at the time that's the way it felt and

25:06

I remember thinking

25:08

and rationalizing well , I don't want

25:10

to end up in a foreign country needing

25:13

emergency surgery and I can't

25:15

communicate with my medical team

25:17

because of a language barrier , and I can't communicate with

25:19

my medical team because of a language barrier . So I did what

25:22

I thought was the right thing

25:24

at the time . And you know , anita

25:26

, sometimes in life we

25:28

make those kind of decisions where

25:31

we do what's logical not

25:34

faith-based , but what's logical

25:36

. And what is so significant

25:39

about this story is that when

25:41

I woke up that night after

25:43

the surgery , I was heavily

25:45

sedated . But I don't

25:47

think I will ever forget my first

25:50

thought that I had until

25:52

the day I die . And

25:54

my absolute first thought

25:57

was oh my God , what have I

25:59

done ? And the reason why that question

26:01

is so significant is

26:03

that I preached faith everywhere

26:06

. I believe God . I was like

26:08

a little cheerleader for Jesus . I

26:11

believe God and rah

26:14

, rah , let's just believe

26:16

God for the impossible . But when faced

26:18

with my crisis , I didn't

26:20

respond in faith , I didn't

26:22

give God a chance . I

26:24

will never know what he would have done . You

26:27

know , I'm a woman of faith . I believe in miraculous

26:30

healing . I'll never know now

26:32

what God would have done in that moment , because

26:35

I did what was logical , because

26:42

I did what was logical . And the thing about it is , anita , is that I didn't have anyone in my life

26:44

who asked me this one question , and

26:46

I didn't ask myself either , and

26:49

I was fully grown . And that question is

26:51

am I prepared to live with

26:54

the decision that I made

26:56

? That's a heavy question

26:58

, because no one

27:01

prepared me for the

27:03

psychological consequences

27:06

of my decision . You

27:08

know , living in the moment and trying to

27:10

, you know , do what you think is

27:12

right . You know I get it , but

27:15

my connection to my

27:17

foundation is it's that

27:19

question and that's what I want

27:21

to ask these teen moms . You

27:23

know when they come pregnant

27:26

and you know whatever their choice

27:28

is for dealing with their

27:31

pregnancy , I just want

27:33

to ask them that one question Are

27:35

you prepared to live with whatever decision

27:38

you're going to make ? Because you're going to have to

27:40

live with it . And I realized

27:42

, going through what I went through , is

27:45

that there really are some things

27:47

in life that cannot be undone

27:49

. They just cannot be

27:51

undone . And it

27:54

took me a long time , years

27:56

, to get over that just

27:58

a long time . And

28:00

so for God to tell me

28:02

to start a home for unwed teen moms

28:05

or to become a teacher , you

28:07

know where . Now I'm surrounded by

28:09

more students than I could ever physically

28:11

birth in my life , you know , you

28:14

know it's , it's huge and

28:16

um , and so God has

28:19

helped me to turn that pain

28:21

into power and to be able

28:24

to offer some

28:26

practical wisdom and

28:29

practical support for

28:31

these young ladies and for executives

28:35

who are going through so

28:37

many different things and they're

28:39

suffering in silence . And so

28:41

, like I like to say , my foundation

28:44

is my baby . I stay up with it all

28:46

night , I cry over it , I fight for

28:48

it , but that's , yeah

28:51

, that's . I know that

28:53

was a really long answer to

28:55

your question , but I wanted

28:57

to make sure that I gave

28:59

you the full picture .

29:01

Absolutely heartfelt , absolutely

29:04

beautiful , and thank you for sharing that full picture . Absolutely heartfelt , absolutely beautiful , and thank you for sharing

29:06

that with us . Absolutely

29:08

, thank you , beautiful

29:10

.

29:10

Well , I'm just so thankful to share

29:12

this moment with you , anita

29:15

, and with your listeners and viewers

29:18

. I love the opportunity . I

29:21

love being able to share with

29:23

people that there

29:26

is more to life than where they are and

29:28

that the possibilities are endless

29:30

. If they will just

29:32

have the courage to be fearless or

29:34

, as I like to say , relentless , they

29:37

can make it . But what I do know

29:40

is sometimes you need someone

29:42

to come alongside and

29:44

to help you make that fearless step

29:46

, and that's why

29:48

we're here , that's why you and I are here

29:51

, that's why I coach is

29:54

to be that extra support , so

29:56

people don't have to feel like they're alone

29:58

.

29:59

Absolutely , and I cannot echo

30:01

that enough . Yes , so

30:04

where can the listeners find you online

30:06

? Your podcast , your books ? What's your website

30:08

, dr Rhonda ?

30:10

My website is wwwtsefiorg

30:20

, that's the acronym for

30:23

the Simmons Empowerment Foundation Incorporated

30:25

, which is way too long , and

30:28

so again it's wwwtsefiorg

30:31

.

30:35

Thank you , absolutely Thank you , for that .

30:37

We were talking about burnout earlier

30:39

and sometimes you

30:42

know , as women , we can say well

30:44

, yes , I know I'm burnout , but you know we'll

30:46

, we'll rest when we get to heaven . Well

30:49

if you don't deal with that , you're

30:59

going to get there a whole lot sooner . So so I have I have designed

31:01

a self-assessment called the burnout to balance sequence

31:03

. It's on my website . I think I sent you the

31:05

link to that , but if not

31:07

, it's right in the menu

31:09

on my home screen Self-assessment

31:12

where you can take a

31:14

quick self-assessment . It should take you maybe two

31:16

minutes or less to determine

31:19

really where you are on

31:21

the continuum . You

31:23

know , maybe you just need a

31:26

sisterhood of support , or

31:28

maybe you're like , okay , I need

31:30

some small group intervention , or

31:32

maybe you're at a level where you know

31:34

what I just need to elevate and escape

31:36

. You know I need some one-on-one attention

31:39

. You know this is we're

31:41

in crisis mode . I need to stop everything

31:44

and really dig deep

31:46

and do the work . And so , wherever

31:48

you are , the

31:50

self-assessment will help you really

31:52

hone in on where

31:55

you are and give you some insights as

31:57

to where you can go from here . And

31:59

so once you submit the self-assessment

32:02

, then you'll get an email with the results

32:04

and all of that . So there's also a free

32:07

gift on how to become the best

32:10

version of yourself .

32:12

Oh , wow , absolutely fabulous . Thank

32:14

you so much , and I

32:16

will put the links in the show notes

32:18

yet again for that too . That's absolutely

32:21

fantastic .

32:23

Thank you .

32:23

I appreciate your time , anita , my

32:25

pleasure , so thank you for sharing your courageous

32:28

journey and deep , insightful wisdom

32:30

and knowledge with us today , and by

32:32

doing so I know you have helped so

32:34

many others . I really want to acknowledge

32:37

you for that , dr Rhonda Simmons .

32:39

Thank you . I appreciate your time , anita

32:42

, and I pray that your

32:44

podcast and everything else that you do

32:46

will be blessed and will continue to grow

32:48

.

32:49

Oh , thank you , I appreciate that . So

32:51

we are all about create the courage to be fearless

32:54

. What is your definition

32:56

of courage ?

32:57

doing it anyway don't

33:00

stop to think can

33:03

I do it ? Because if God gives

33:05

you a vision to do something , then

33:08

he'll give you the provision you need

33:10

to bring it to pass . And

33:12

so , if you stop to think it through

33:14

too long , well , I don't have this , I don't

33:16

have the skills , I don't have the education

33:19

, I don't have the money . Why

33:21

would God give you a vision to do something

33:23

great and big if he

33:26

wasn't going to provide for you to do it ? He's

33:28

not going to waste his time or yours , so

33:32

just do it anyway . And so that's what

33:34

being courageous means to me .