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This show is produced by the
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Hartman Media Company. For more information
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and links to all our great
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podcasts, visit Hartman Media.com. Jason's
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an incredible human. He actually, Jason's spoken at our, one of
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our previous black card summits actually came out to Utah, spoke
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it and just wowed the entire audience. People have still talked
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to me about like, man, remember when Jason came out and
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spoke there, a lot of you guys know my dad, big
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time fund manager now, retired, now retired, and now retired, for
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years, and years, he's been like, man, when Jason came out
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and spoke there, a lot of you guys, a lot of
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you guys know, and spoke there, a lot of you guys,
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a lot of my dad, big time, big time, big time,
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fun, fun, fun, fun, fun, fun, fun, fun, fun, fun, Welcome
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to the Creating Wealth Show with
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Jason Hartman. You're about to learn
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a new slant on investing, some
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exciting techniques and fresh new approaches
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to the world's most historically proven
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asset class that will enable you
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to create more wealth and freedom
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than you ever thought possible. Jason
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is a genuine self-made multi-millionaire who's
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actually been there and done it.
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He's a successful investor, lender, developer
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and entrepreneur whose own properties in
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11 states. had hundreds of tenants
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and been involved in thousands of
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real estate transactions. This program will
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help you following Jason's footsteps on
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the road to your Financial Independence
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Day. You really can do it.
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And now, here's your host, Jason
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Hartman, with the complete solution for
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real estate investors. How's
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your Bentley window cracked? I don't care
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about that, look. How do you not
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care about a Bentley? Man, I don't
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care about this car, man, it's just
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a car. Those of you that care
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too much about cars, man, you ain't
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making enough money. You're making enough money,
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you won't care about material things. How
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much you pay for the Bentley? Just
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about a quarter million. About a quarter
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million, you won't care about material things.
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How much you pay for the Bentley?
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This is about a $1. your
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time to make money man you always gotta use
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your time to make money but when you use
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the bank's money to make money let's say I
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could go buy an asset building let's look at
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this building right here let's say I go buy
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this thing here man and let's say they pay
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me five million dollars or three million dollars a
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year to lease it out from me and I
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can go borrow the money from the bank to
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buy this and I gotta pay the bank two
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and a half million dollars a year out of
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the three million. I just borrowed the money from
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the bank and made a half a million off
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borrowing the money from the bank. But people are
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conditioned to think that paying off debt will make
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you wealthy. That's the dumbest number. They didn't
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never learn how to use debt because they
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come from a scarcity family with a scarcity
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mindset that thinks debt is bad. So you
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know what they do the rest of their
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life? They work for somebody that has debt.
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Greetings Empowered Investors and
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Welcome Pepsi, 2279. I am
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in Santiago, Chile, and this
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is a sleeper city. I
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tell you, I was here many years ago,
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and it is great to be
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back. What a nice city. It's
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just beautiful here. Now, it probably
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helps the weather is perfect, but
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I'm trying not to be too
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terribly influenced by that. It really
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is a nice city, very nice.
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And I'd recommend that you come.
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This is not a common tourist
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destination, at least not for those
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of us so far away. But
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it really is nice being down
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here at the other end of
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the world. In a few days,
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I will head over to the most
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remote place on Earth, as they say.
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And that is Easter Island always wanted
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to go there ever since I saw
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chariots of the gods as a kid.
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I was fascinated by Easter Island, by
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pyramids, by all of these possible ancient
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technologies. Who knows? So really looking forward
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to that. Now I know some of
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you are probably thinking, well, isn't Antarctica
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the most remote place on earth? I
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don't know. That's what they say Easter Island
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is. So you be the judge. But I
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kind of thought the same thing when I
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heard and read that. We've got many
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things to cover, many things to
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get into, but first I want
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to just share a little personal
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story with you that is a
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lesson. This may not be the
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biggest aha moment. I'm just going
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to warn you, it's not that
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profound, but it is something I
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have realized in a painful. painful
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way. And when I say painful,
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I'm talking physically painful. Some of
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you know that I injured both
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of my shoulders when I charted
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the yacht in Croatia last August
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and had a little mastermind meeting
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on that yacht. You know, doing
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water sports, I was on a
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raft and the raft flipped over
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and it didn't hurt terribly bad
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at the time, but wow, about
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a week or two later, I
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was in serious pain. And I
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really have been in serious pain
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for the last, what is that,
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seven months, six months, it's pretty
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darn bad. Here's the lesson. I
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have not been able to work
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out because of the shoulder pain.
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And the lesson here applies to
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real estate investing. The lesson is,
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you know, I was in pretty
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good shape when the accident happened.
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But had I been in better
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shape, I would have had more
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reserves, if you will, right? Reserves
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of fitness, of muscle, and now
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the fact that I haven't been
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able to work out, and I
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guess I have valued my travel
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and my excursions over getting consistent
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good physical therapy, which probably would
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have helped a lot. I did
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have a session in Lima, Peru
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last week. I've had a couple
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sessions in different locations, but you
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know it's probably value judgment it
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would be much better being at
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home in one place going to
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the same physical therapist two or
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three times a week I probably
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would be all recovered now but
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that's beside the point the point is
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if you have an accident whether it
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be in your investing business if you
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will or whether it be in your
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physical life it's better to have more
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reserves it's better to have more
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than you need, right? Had I
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been in better shape when the
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accident happened, right? Maybe it wouldn't
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have been as bad because my
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ligaments, my tendons would have been
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stronger. Maybe that would have prevented
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the injury to some extent. Or at
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least, having not been able to work
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out all this time, I'd be in
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much better shape now and I'd feel
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better if I had more reserves. So
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what is the lesson there? Well, when
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it comes to our financial life,
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a lot of us, you know,
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we're just sort of getting by,
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right? We're thinking, okay, well, you
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know, I'm gonna plan for my
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future, I'm gonna invest in income
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property, the most historically proven asset
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class in the entire world. buy
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a couple of houses, right? And
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I'm gonna have a couple of
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rental properties. But if tragedy strikes,
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right, if you have that unexpected
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problem in your life, if you
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lose that job, if you lose
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that business, if you have a
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medical emergency, whatever, anything can happen,
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and life is extremely delicate, it's
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very tender. So we want to
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have more. reserves. Now, a little
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tangent to this, I have always
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said, and people have asked me
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over the years many times, you
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know, how much cash should I
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have in reserve? Well, the answer
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is, and always has been, 4%
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of the value of your real
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estate portfolio. Are there any exceptions
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to that? Maybe, sure, yeah. If
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you have a giant portfolio, right,
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if you have a hundred million
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dollar portfolio of real estate, do
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you need four million dollars set
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aside? I don't know, it depends
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on the type of properties and
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so forth, probably not. Why? Because
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the law of large numbers is working
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in your favor. Think about it. Think
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about the casino game roulette. I don't
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gamble, well, I guess I gamble a
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little bit in business and life, but
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I don't gamble in Las Vegas, right?
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Just doesn't interest me. But think about
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the game roulette. right? You've got
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red and black. And most of
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the time, one of those is
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going to win. And those are
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just one to one odds, right?
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But there's the zero and the
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double zero. And just with those
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two positions out of all the
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other positions that are either red
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or black or odd or even
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on the table, right? That's how
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the casino wins. It wins because
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of the law of large numbers.
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So the other lesson there have
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a larger portfolio of investments because
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the likelihood of them all going
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bad at the same time is
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extremely low. We all know that,
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right? So if you have you
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know, the old saying, right, if
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you have one property and it's
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vacant, you have a 100% vacancy
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rate. If you have 100 properties
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and only one is vacant, well,
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you only have a 1% vacancy
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rate, the law of large numbers.
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I know that's not an exact
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example. But, you know, write in
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the comments below if you're watching
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this on video, what your thoughts
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are on that. And if you're
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listening on the podcast audio only,
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you can always go to JasonHarpment.com.com/ask
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and Any comments and questions are
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always welcome there. Okay, several things
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I want to cover with you
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today. Number one, rent continues to
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increase with lower supply and increased
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demand for 2025. Recovery continues for
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the real estate market. Now, when
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they say that, what does that
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actually mean? Does that mean recovery
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of prices, recovery of rents? Does
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it mean multifamily? Does it mean
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single family? Does it mean office
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space, which is an absolute disaster?
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We all know that, right. Recovery
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from which angle. Right? If inventory
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increases and there's more supply of
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housing on the market, whether it
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be rental or for sale housing,
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and you are a buyer or
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a renter, you would consider that
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a recovery. You would consider that
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great news. And a lot of
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the housing pundits, by the way,
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view it that way. They think
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a recovery or a positive sign
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on the market is more inventory.
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And I actually agree with them.
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because I just don't think it's
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good for society to have an
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extremely tight housing shortage the way
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we do. However, if you're an
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investor, now my comment there was
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definitely not self-serving, because if you're
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an investor and you already own
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properties, you love a shortage, right?
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From your angle, you think a
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recovery is lower supply and a
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tighter, tighter market. always depends on
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your point of view, right? And
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the point of view from which
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the article is being written or
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the story is being reported. Significant
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changes from increased interest rates and
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supply chain disruptions over the recent
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years are still unraveling. Both commercial
10:52
and residential investors are expecting positive
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trend for 2025 with multifamily rents
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projected to increase by two to
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two and a half percent. Now
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the multifamily market. We know apartment
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complexes have been in trouble lately
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because they had so many deliveries
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of new units. There was such
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a construction backlog. But when I
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say backlog, I mean, there was
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a lot of construction. hitting the
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market, a lot of finished units
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hitting the market. And that was
11:21
a real problem. Now this didn't
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happen in single family homes. There's
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been pretty much an extreme shortage
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all the way along, except, and
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really I would say that's the
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last 10 years. I was talking
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to a friend about this today.
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She owns a real estate software
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company, and I was saying, you
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know, it's always been us complaining
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about not enough inventory for a
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decade. 10 years since 2015, that's
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pretty much been the mantra. However,
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there are obviously local differences, right?
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If you look at Austin, Texas,
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for example, or even a couple
11:56
of Florida markets, inventory is definitely
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increasing in those markets. And we're
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going to look at something on
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that in just a moment. But
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love this software. Okay so let's
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take a look at some inventory
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stats for just a moment. Now
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this is interesting because it depends
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where you get the data and
15:45
this is redfin data and it
15:47
shows that there are currently almost
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one 0.8 million active listings. Now
15:52
this is seasonally adjusted, okay, so
15:54
it will kind of smooth out
15:56
there a little bit, but that's
15:58
not the number we use. We
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go with the altos data, okay,
16:03
and red fins similar to NAR
16:05
data, but it doesn't matter what
16:07
data you use, it matters that
16:09
you compare it historically to the
16:12
same data. That is what is
16:14
important. So with a consumer price
16:16
index, for example, this is a
16:18
good comparison. This is a good
16:20
comparison. the CPI or the CPI,
16:23
as I call it, they had
16:25
some big changes to the consumer
16:27
price index right around 1980. They
16:29
made some big, big changes. And
16:32
that's why inflation reporting seems much
16:34
more desirable than it used to
16:36
be. That was most likely a
16:38
response to the high inflation of
16:40
the 1970s, and they changed it,
16:43
and they have been lying to
16:45
us ever since. Remember, three major
16:47
ways. They manipulate the inflation data,
16:49
waiting, substitution, and hedonic indexing. I've
16:52
talked about that on many other
16:54
prior episodes. So you can always
16:56
go to JasonHartman.com. You can click
16:58
on our little chatbot or you
17:00
can go directly to it by
17:03
going to JasonHartman.com/AI for artificial intelligence.
17:05
And you can talk to my
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AI clone. where I have become
17:09
immortal. Well, I guess immortal as
17:12
long as we're paying the bill
17:14
for the clone, right? As soon
17:16
as the bill stops paying, the
17:18
clone will die, okay, or it
17:20
stops being paid. And you can
17:23
ask it any question, but you
17:25
can find the episodes because it
17:27
footnotes and references my material that
17:29
it's been trained on, almost 2,000
17:31
podcast episodes. So, a lot of
17:34
content there, a lot of good
17:36
stuff there for you. So. 635,000
17:38
is the inventory number of active
17:40
listings, according to the altos data,
17:43
which I prefer. And I don't
17:45
prefer it because it's a lower
17:47
number. I prefer it because it's
17:49
a more consistent and more accurate
17:51
number. It does not include pending
17:54
sales. It does not include contingent
17:56
sales like this other data does.
17:58
But again, as long as you
18:00
make the apples to apples comparison.
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That's okay. Because what do we
18:05
have here? If we look at
18:07
the redfin data, we had almost
18:09
3 million active listings, according to
18:11
what they call active, in 2012,
18:14
right, coming out of the Great
18:16
Recession in 2012. And now we've
18:18
got 1.75 million active listings, okay,
18:20
so million, 800,000 almost. versus the
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600,000. It just depends what you
18:25
call active and whether or not
18:27
it's seasonally adjusted. Okay, that's another
18:29
important thing. All right, so here
18:31
is yet another metric. Now this
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is from realtor.com and I want
18:36
you to see the difference here.
18:38
Now, the altos data tells us
18:40
we have about 635,000 listings and
18:43
the realtor.com data tells us 847,
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it doesn't tell us what the
18:47
redfin data says that's 1. 1.8
18:49
million. So do you see how
18:51
confusing this can be? Just compare
18:54
apples to apples. That's really all
18:56
you need to do most of
18:58
the time. And here, if we
19:00
look at these different years, right,
19:03
we see that in 2017, okay,
19:05
whereas the 2017 line, we had
19:07
a much higher inventory, almost, well,
19:09
not quite double, but yeah, like
19:11
180% of the inventory we have
19:14
today, I guess, would be about
19:16
the accurate number. And back in
19:18
2022, in the COVID era, the
19:20
number was less than half and
19:23
it got down even lower than
19:25
that. Again, if you're using the
19:27
consistent alto stats, about 240,000 homes
19:29
is all we had for sale
19:31
back then during the COVID era.
19:34
Okay, so let's look at some
19:36
more stuff here. Now this is
19:38
the Florida supply, okay, and it
19:40
says Florida housing supply hits record
19:43
high, but this is very misleading.
19:45
Why is it so misleading? So
19:47
if we go back, this chart
19:49
goes back to 2012. Okay, so
19:51
it goes back 13 years, and
19:54
we see that the inventory is
19:56
higher now than it was 13
19:58
years ago, but it's about the
20:00
same as it was in the
20:03
pre-pandemic level. In fact, it's like
20:05
exactly the same as it was
20:07
in 2019. Okay, so what does
20:09
that mean? This is extremely misleading
20:11
because the Florida population has increased
20:14
quite dramatically. And it's not only
20:16
population that counts. it's number of
20:18
households. So you would be very
20:20
wrong to compare this chart and
20:23
say, oh, the Florida housing market
20:25
is terrible, because 13 years ago,
20:27
inventory was lower than it is
20:29
today. Well. the whole state was
20:31
smaller than it is today. The
20:34
population was much smaller than it
20:36
is today. The number of households
20:38
were much smaller than they are
20:40
today. The number of jobs available
20:43
in Florida were much smaller than
20:45
they were today. The number of
20:47
retiring baby boomers that moved from
20:49
the northeastern states with the terrible
20:51
climates after they were tired was
20:54
much smaller than it is today.
20:56
So again, you got to just
20:58
peel back the layers of these
21:00
onions folks and really... understand the
21:03
truth of the matter, and that
21:05
is the truth of the matter.
21:07
Now, this is another interesting thing,
21:09
and it is average home prices
21:11
versus inflation. And it shows you
21:14
the buying power, because the buying
21:16
power in 1963, right? 1963, that's
21:18
where they have parody, where the
21:20
home price and inflation start, and
21:23
The house there is $18,215. By
21:25
2009, the house price was $215,000,
21:27
but the buying power was only
21:29
$185,000. So this is where you
21:31
see there's this big separation between
21:34
buying power and home price. And
21:36
now you see it is terrible.
21:38
2023 is where it's at $425,000.
21:40
The home price versus inflation went
21:42
down a little bit vis-a-vis inflation
21:45
only, but the buying power remains
21:47
dramatically, dramatically lower than the house
21:49
price, even when it's adjusted for
21:51
inflation. So what does this mean?
21:54
What does it tell you? It
21:56
tells you. that landlords are going
21:58
to be very happy that it
22:00
is a renting market right well
22:02
let me say that correctly it
22:05
is not a renters market although
22:07
a lot of renters will be
22:09
renting because they can't afford to
22:11
buy it is a landlord's market
22:14
and that's why you want to
22:16
own more property in this landlords
22:18
market because that appears only be
22:20
getting more and more significant that
22:22
divergence between buying power and house
22:25
prices. And I have a little
22:27
more data for you here. Now
22:29
this one starts in 1985 and
22:31
you can see how income does
22:34
not keep up with rent, not
22:36
even close, right? The percentage change
22:38
in rent versus the percentage change
22:40
in income is dramatically different. Okay,
22:42
1985 started at parody, 1995, it
22:45
was pretty darn close, like it
22:47
was affordable to rent a house,
22:49
but now the rent is just
22:51
dramatically higher than the income. Now,
22:54
what would be misleading about this?
22:56
Always ask yourself that. What is
22:58
the chart not telling us is
23:00
the house itself got better. The
23:02
house we were willing to accept
23:05
in 1985 had inferior finishes. it
23:07
was smaller in size and it
23:09
was not as good a house
23:11
as today's house. Okay, today's house
23:14
is a better house except for
23:16
one thing. The lot size got
23:18
smaller, the land shrunk, but the
23:20
house got better, right? So we
23:22
see, you know, the average lot
23:25
size versus the house keeps getting
23:27
bigger, but the lot size keeps
23:29
getting smaller. So there are many
23:31
factors here and I just want
23:34
you to always realize all of
23:36
those factors. Terrace. Trump tariffs are
23:38
a big big deal obviously and
23:40
you see that Trump is definitely
23:42
shaking up the world. He's actually
23:45
demanding that Ukraine pay the US
23:47
back for the massive support it
23:49
got in. It's worth it. And
23:51
why is that considered unreasonable? I
23:54
mean, that's just reasonable. Hey, look,
23:56
it's like we were the lender
23:58
of last resort and we lent
24:00
money and weapons, right? High-tech, great
24:02
fantastic weapons. And Ukraine has to
24:05
pass back for that. Imagine that.
24:07
Well, what else is Trump doing
24:09
to piss everybody off? Okay. Well,
24:11
he's only pissing off. less than
24:14
half the people, but you know,
24:16
whatever. Let's look at housing stocks
24:18
here. So D.R. Horton, largest home
24:20
builder in America, housing their stock
24:22
price way down. Okay, with all
24:25
this, this news of tariffs, Lanar,
24:27
same thing. These builders are really,
24:29
really concerned about the tariffs. And
24:31
I'm sure they are in full
24:34
lobbying mode to lobby the administration
24:36
to not do tariffs. But Trump
24:38
actually, being the very smart guy
24:40
that he is, I know some
24:42
of you are thinking, oh he's
24:45
an idiot, you know, whatever, you're
24:47
wrong, but oh well, he's pretty
24:49
darn smart, or at least he
24:51
has smart advisors, I don't know,
24:54
whatever, the result. is pretty smart.
24:56
What he's doing now is opening
24:58
up whole new channels for harvesting
25:00
timber, just like he did with
25:02
oil. That's going to hopefully offset
25:05
the tariff problem. But think about
25:07
what happens. Here's the genius mix
25:09
of that, right? You tariff the
25:11
imports, the government raises money from
25:14
those tariffs, which means the external
25:16
revenue service rather than the internal
25:18
revenue service is now bringing in
25:20
extra funding for the government, lessening
25:22
the burden on all of us
25:25
taxpayers. Okay, so that's one effect.
25:27
The other thing that happens is
25:29
Americans now think, well, maybe I
25:31
ought to get into manufacturing all
25:34
those things that are normally imported
25:36
or these Chinese companies or whatever
25:38
country companies, they set up shop
25:40
in the United States. They employ
25:42
more people here, hire paying American
25:45
jobs, which mean more people with
25:47
more money to grow the economy
25:49
and stimulate the economy and create
25:51
more tax revenue. And at the
25:54
same time, Trump says we've got
25:56
all of these crops we can
25:58
harvest. Trees are just a crop.
26:00
They're just like corn. Listen, I
26:02
love trees. When I went to
26:05
New Zealand with my girlfriend Hillary
26:07
years ago, I decided I was
26:09
a closet tree hugger. Okay, I
26:11
love trees. They're beautiful. Absolutely love
26:13
them. I'm here in Santiago. Tree-lined
26:16
streets everywhere. It's just gorgeous. I
26:18
love vegetables too. Vegetables are just
26:20
a crop. That's what trees are.
26:22
They're just a crop that takes
26:25
longer to grow. Okay, so it's
26:27
fine to harvest them as long
26:29
as you replant them. All right?
26:31
just like any crop. It's fine
26:33
to harvest corn as long as
26:36
you replant it, okay? But for
26:38
those of you not watching on
26:40
video, I'm showing a chart of
26:42
the import reliance for home building
26:45
inputs in 2024. Builders heavily rely
26:47
on Chinese imports for appliances, small
26:49
appliances, nearly 50%. hardware nearly 50%
26:51
sawmill wood products. Okay. And that's
26:53
what Trump is lessening the price
26:56
pressure on now by allowing more
26:58
tree harvesting inside the US. Okay.
27:00
And that is about 30% plumbing
27:02
fixtures and trim. That's about 25%
27:05
and glass products about 20%. So
27:07
the mix is what's important. If
27:09
builders can buy American made or
27:11
American harvested materials, without those price
27:13
increases of the tariffs. That's great.
27:16
They pay higher prices for some
27:18
things for a time until the
27:20
American manufacturing catches up or the
27:22
foreign companies come and set up
27:25
shop here and create higher paying
27:27
American jobs. But all of this
27:29
has one. thing in common. The
27:31
net result is inflation, inflation, and
27:33
you as a real estate investor
27:36
benefit from that dramatically, inflation induced
27:38
debt destruction, higher housing costs, the
27:40
greatest hedge against inflation ever is
27:42
income property, higher rents, and higher
27:45
affordability from more American workers who
27:47
either get less taxed because we
27:49
have the external revenue service that
27:51
makes us rely less on the
27:53
internal revenue service, and they have
27:56
just higher paying jobs. So the
27:58
net result of that, more money
28:00
to spend into the economy, more
28:02
dollars, limited supply of goods and
28:05
services, inflation, classic definition. So on
28:07
the tariffs, there are so much
28:09
news on this, there's no way
28:11
we could possibly cover it, but
28:13
just a little bit of an
28:16
example here. This is from one
28:18
of my newsletters that says, as
28:20
the Trump administration weighs new tariffs
28:22
on China, Apple has announced plans
28:25
to invest 500 billion in the
28:27
United States, over the next four
28:29
years, including the addition of 20,000
28:31
new hires to its workforce. So
28:33
how many employees does Apple have?
28:36
I think they have like 80,000
28:38
employees or something like that, right?
28:40
It's an incredible number. So they're
28:42
going to increase their workforce by
28:45
25% in the United States and
28:47
invest half a trillion dollars in
28:49
the US. Right? They wouldn't have
28:51
done this if it wasn't for
28:53
Trump. If it wasn't for the
28:56
tariff threats, this would have never
28:58
happened. They would have just continued
29:00
with their cheap overseas manufacturing. Apple
29:02
will open a 250,000 square foot
29:05
server facility in Houston slated to
29:07
begin operations next year with plans
29:09
to expand to other states and
29:11
hire thousands more people. New jobs
29:13
will mostly focus on research and
29:16
development, Silicon Engineering, AI and machine
29:18
learning the company said. What do
29:20
you think those jobs pay? I
29:22
think those jobs pay pretty well.
29:25
That means those people really really
29:27
contribute to the economy. Apple said
29:29
the investment will also boost its
29:31
chip manufacturing efforts in the United
29:33
States, as well as skills development
29:36
programs for students and workers. The
29:38
move came shortly after CEO Tim
29:40
Cook met with President Trump, who
29:42
recently imposed a 10% tariff on
29:45
goods imported from China. Wow, you
29:47
want to make the country stronger,
29:49
you want to bring the manufacturing
29:51
here, you want to make the
29:53
hiring happen here, and it's so
29:56
much. better. Why it matters. Questions
29:58
remain about Apple's motivations in announcing
30:00
the investment, whether to shield itself
30:02
from tariffs or to signal an
30:05
America first stance to the Trump
30:07
administration. Other tech companies are also
30:09
investing billions in the US, including
30:11
open AI, Microsoft, Soft Bank, Oracle,
30:13
through the 500 billion dollar Stargate
30:16
project. Folks, this is genius. These
30:18
tariffs are going to work. They
30:20
are going to work beautifully. And
30:22
I know some of you have
30:25
your doubts, but just wait. You
30:27
know, there's that old biblical principle
30:29
of being equally yoked, right? In
30:31
a marriage, you need to be
30:33
equally yoked. In a business deal,
30:36
both partners, both sides need to
30:38
be equally yoked. They have to
30:40
have equal amount of burden and
30:42
obligation on them. And the tariffs.
30:44
level the playing field. So it's
30:47
going to be wonderful. Now, you
30:49
want to know another genius move?
30:51
Oh, wow. Just came out last
30:53
week. Trump's new gold card program.
30:56
This is brilliant. It is brilliant.
30:58
Do you know the massive amount
31:00
of stimulation this will do for
31:02
the US economy? It will be
31:04
nothing short of incredible. So what
31:07
is that program? He wants to
31:09
offer a $5 million. essentially golden
31:11
visa to wealthy foreigners to come
31:13
to the US, have residency in
31:16
the US, have a path to
31:18
citizenship in the US, and all
31:20
of those people are going to
31:22
bring their talent, their brains, their
31:24
capital, the amount of what used
31:27
to be called foreign direct investment
31:29
wouldn't even be considered FDI or
31:31
foreign direct investment. It would just
31:33
be investment because these people would
31:36
live in the US. They would
31:38
hire people, they would stimulate the
31:40
economy, they would spend into the
31:42
economy, and it's just beautiful. It's
31:44
incredible. It's an amazing time to
31:47
be alive. We are witnessing incredible
31:49
things going on. And you just
31:51
gave it a little time to
31:53
play out. It's going to be
31:56
phenomenal. Okay, I reported on this
31:58
before. Well, this is Marco Santarelli.
32:00
Another one of these reviews came
32:02
up. I thought this was done,
32:04
but apparently this investment fund, which
32:07
The people say is a scam.
32:09
I don't know. I don't have
32:11
any information myself. I'm just reading
32:13
the reviews and hearing what I
32:16
hear through the industry. But this
32:18
one is from Ari Wealth Creator,
32:20
and it's a one-star review. It
32:22
says, stop stealing investor money. Yes,
32:24
Marco, don't promote your investment opportunities
32:27
and lie about its performance to
32:29
investors. You've lost. hundreds of investors
32:31
money to the listener, you're listening
32:33
to a scam artist or Bernie
32:36
Madoff type. Marco isn't to be
32:38
trusted. He'll steal what he can
32:40
from you. He should be in
32:42
jail. Now, a whole bunch of
32:44
these reviews like this came in
32:47
on iTunes or I should say
32:49
Apple Podcast. Now, several months ago,
32:51
and we did report on it,
32:53
but this one just came in
32:56
the other day. So it's really
32:58
awful to see this kind of
33:00
thing because you want to remember
33:02
Commandment number three. Vow shalt maintain
33:04
control. When you relinquish control to
33:07
another party, and look, in reality,
33:09
we all have to relinquish some
33:11
control to somebody, right? We can't
33:13
be in control of everything. At
33:16
least the economy is in some
33:18
control in the marketplace, right? But
33:20
you leave yourself susceptible to three
33:22
major problems. Number one, you might
33:24
be investing with a crook, okay?
33:27
Bernie Madoff, right? Enron. global crossing,
33:29
you know, all of the scams
33:31
on Wall Street that you've all
33:33
heard about, all of the real
33:36
estate syndicators, all of the fund
33:38
managers that have scanned people, and
33:40
I guarantee you, there are many
33:42
of those out there. right now
33:44
in today's market who seem to
33:47
be great who seem to be
33:49
making money for their investors and
33:51
everybody loves them and they're doing
33:53
great and you know what they
33:56
opened up a bunch of philanthropy
33:58
arm to hide their misdeeds and
34:00
they're doing all this stuff right
34:02
and you just wait a few
34:04
years and you'll see that a
34:07
lot of these people have been
34:09
scamming people so we say Be
34:11
a direct investor, maintain control, valve
34:13
shop, maintain control. Number two problem,
34:16
assuming you invest with someone who's
34:18
honest, the number two problem is
34:20
you might be investing with an
34:22
idiot, right? You'll lose money just
34:24
because of their sheer incompetence. So
34:27
assuming they're honest and competent, the
34:29
third problem is they take a
34:31
giant management fee off the top
34:33
for managing the deal. And you
34:36
don't want to be subject to
34:38
that, right? You want the money
34:40
to flow to you as the
34:42
investor. You don't want to give
34:44
it to some CEO, some fund
34:47
manager, some investment banker, you know,
34:49
you just want to be direct
34:51
as much as possible with your
34:53
investments. Commandment number three. don't let
34:56
this kind of thing happen to
34:58
you. Okay, this is from the
35:00
Wall Street Journal, by the way,
35:02
interest in second homes and rentals
35:04
continues to rise among the wealthy.
35:07
The latest survey from the Wall
35:09
Street Journal Intelligence recorded an uptick
35:11
in real estate investing while other
35:13
passion assets from jewelry to art
35:15
declined. Real estate is the thing
35:18
and everybody wants it. Now imagine
35:20
you combine this with Trump's golden
35:22
visa program. right for a measly
35:24
and by the way that is
35:27
a measly five million dollars that's
35:29
nothing there are so many super
35:31
wealthy people around the world five
35:33
million dollars to have US residency
35:35
and a path to US citizenship
35:38
and have all the opportunities to
35:40
access the US market to access
35:42
US banks to access US lenders
35:44
that's so worth five million dollars
35:47
I mean when you would pay
35:49
a million dollars to get an
35:51
EU citizenship five million for US
35:53
is dramatically better than a million
35:55
for EU. Okay, that's the way
35:58
any wealthy person would do the
36:00
calculus on this. Can you imagine
36:02
when these people come here and
36:04
have access to our markets and
36:07
can just readily buy all these
36:09
properties just like any American? Can
36:11
you imagine how that will massively
36:13
increase demand? Yeah, it will. And
36:15
here is another survey. This is
36:18
from Housing Wire. It says real
36:20
estate investors say they'll expand portfolios
36:22
and make home improvements this year.
36:24
Data shows that nearly 60% of
36:27
US investors plan to acquire new
36:29
properties this year. This is a
36:31
rent ready survey. We had rent
36:33
ready on the show before, by
36:35
the way. What are your plans
36:38
for your real estate portfolio in
36:40
2025? The large landlords, 51% of
36:42
them said. They plan to acquire
36:44
more new properties. And on that
36:47
22% of them, they say they're
36:49
going to do a mix of
36:51
buying and selling and rejiggering their
36:53
portfolios. And 7% say no plans
36:55
to change. All investors overall, 54%,
36:58
so an astounding majority there, right,
37:00
say they plan to expand their
37:02
portfolios, 13% say they're going to
37:04
rejigger and mix them and buy
37:07
and sell. And 31% say they
37:09
don't have any plans yet. Okay,
37:11
and small investors, 54% of those
37:13
say they're going to buy, increase
37:15
the size of their portfolio, and
37:18
the medium investors say that's the
37:20
highest number, 55% of them say
37:22
they are going to expand their
37:24
portfolio size this year. Now, if
37:27
that is where the smart money
37:29
is going, maybe you should be
37:31
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