2279: Trump Tariffs and Housing Inventory Trends: Decoding the Data for Real Estate Investors

2279: Trump Tariffs and Housing Inventory Trends: Decoding the Data for Real Estate Investors

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This show is produced by the

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podcasts, visit Hartman Media.com. Jason's

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spoke there, a lot of you guys know my dad, big

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years, and years, he's been like, man, when Jason came out

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is a genuine self-made multi-millionaire who's

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actually been there and done it.

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and entrepreneur whose own properties in

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11 states. had hundreds of tenants

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the road to your Financial Independence

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Day. You really can do it.

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And now, here's your host, Jason

1:27

Hartman, with the complete solution for

1:29

real estate investors. How's

1:32

your Bentley window cracked? I don't care

1:34

about that, look. How do you not

1:36

care about a Bentley? Man, I don't

1:38

care about this car, man, it's just

1:40

a car. Those of you that care

1:43

too much about cars, man, you ain't

1:45

making enough money. You're making enough money,

1:47

you won't care about material things. How

1:49

much you pay for the Bentley? Just

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about a quarter million. About a quarter

1:54

million, you won't care about material things.

1:56

How much you pay for the Bentley?

1:58

This is about a $1. your

2:00

time to make money man you always gotta use

2:02

your time to make money but when you use

2:04

the bank's money to make money let's say I

2:06

could go buy an asset building let's look at

2:08

this building right here let's say I go buy

2:10

this thing here man and let's say they pay

2:13

me five million dollars or three million dollars a

2:15

year to lease it out from me and I

2:17

can go borrow the money from the bank to

2:19

buy this and I gotta pay the bank two

2:21

and a half million dollars a year out of

2:23

the three million. I just borrowed the money from

2:25

the bank and made a half a million off

2:27

borrowing the money from the bank. But people are

2:29

conditioned to think that paying off debt will make

2:31

you wealthy. That's the dumbest number. They didn't

2:33

never learn how to use debt because they

2:35

come from a scarcity family with a scarcity

2:37

mindset that thinks debt is bad. So you

2:39

know what they do the rest of their

2:42

life? They work for somebody that has debt.

2:47

Greetings Empowered Investors and

2:49

Welcome Pepsi, 2279. I am

2:51

in Santiago, Chile, and this

2:54

is a sleeper city. I

2:56

tell you, I was here many years ago,

2:58

and it is great to be

3:00

back. What a nice city. It's

3:02

just beautiful here. Now, it probably

3:04

helps the weather is perfect, but

3:06

I'm trying not to be too

3:08

terribly influenced by that. It really

3:11

is a nice city, very nice.

3:13

And I'd recommend that you come.

3:15

This is not a common tourist

3:17

destination, at least not for those

3:19

of us so far away. But

3:21

it really is nice being down

3:23

here at the other end of

3:25

the world. In a few days,

3:27

I will head over to the most

3:29

remote place on Earth, as they say.

3:32

And that is Easter Island always wanted

3:34

to go there ever since I saw

3:36

chariots of the gods as a kid.

3:39

I was fascinated by Easter Island, by

3:41

pyramids, by all of these possible ancient

3:43

technologies. Who knows? So really looking forward

3:46

to that. Now I know some of

3:48

you are probably thinking, well, isn't Antarctica

3:50

the most remote place on earth? I

3:52

don't know. That's what they say Easter Island

3:54

is. So you be the judge. But I

3:56

kind of thought the same thing when I

3:58

heard and read that. We've got many

4:01

things to cover, many things to

4:03

get into, but first I want

4:05

to just share a little personal

4:07

story with you that is a

4:09

lesson. This may not be the

4:11

biggest aha moment. I'm just going

4:13

to warn you, it's not that

4:15

profound, but it is something I

4:17

have realized in a painful. painful

4:19

way. And when I say painful,

4:21

I'm talking physically painful. Some of

4:23

you know that I injured both

4:25

of my shoulders when I charted

4:27

the yacht in Croatia last August

4:29

and had a little mastermind meeting

4:31

on that yacht. You know, doing

4:33

water sports, I was on a

4:35

raft and the raft flipped over

4:37

and it didn't hurt terribly bad

4:39

at the time, but wow, about

4:41

a week or two later, I

4:43

was in serious pain. And I

4:45

really have been in serious pain

4:47

for the last, what is that,

4:49

seven months, six months, it's pretty

4:51

darn bad. Here's the lesson. I

4:53

have not been able to work

4:56

out because of the shoulder pain.

4:58

And the lesson here applies to

5:00

real estate investing. The lesson is,

5:02

you know, I was in pretty

5:04

good shape when the accident happened.

5:06

But had I been in better

5:08

shape, I would have had more

5:10

reserves, if you will, right? Reserves

5:13

of fitness, of muscle, and now

5:15

the fact that I haven't been

5:17

able to work out, and I

5:19

guess I have valued my travel

5:21

and my excursions over getting consistent

5:24

good physical therapy, which probably would

5:26

have helped a lot. I did

5:28

have a session in Lima, Peru

5:30

last week. I've had a couple

5:32

sessions in different locations, but you

5:34

know it's probably value judgment it

5:36

would be much better being at

5:39

home in one place going to

5:41

the same physical therapist two or

5:43

three times a week I probably

5:45

would be all recovered now but

5:47

that's beside the point the point is

5:49

if you have an accident whether it

5:52

be in your investing business if you

5:54

will or whether it be in your

5:56

physical life it's better to have more

5:59

reserves it's better to have more

6:01

than you need, right? Had I

6:03

been in better shape when the

6:05

accident happened, right? Maybe it wouldn't

6:07

have been as bad because my

6:09

ligaments, my tendons would have been

6:11

stronger. Maybe that would have prevented

6:13

the injury to some extent. Or at

6:16

least, having not been able to work

6:18

out all this time, I'd be in

6:20

much better shape now and I'd feel

6:22

better if I had more reserves. So

6:25

what is the lesson there? Well, when

6:27

it comes to our financial life,

6:29

a lot of us, you know,

6:31

we're just sort of getting by,

6:34

right? We're thinking, okay, well, you

6:36

know, I'm gonna plan for my

6:38

future, I'm gonna invest in income

6:41

property, the most historically proven asset

6:43

class in the entire world. buy

6:45

a couple of houses, right? And

6:48

I'm gonna have a couple of

6:50

rental properties. But if tragedy strikes,

6:52

right, if you have that unexpected

6:54

problem in your life, if you

6:56

lose that job, if you lose

6:59

that business, if you have a

7:01

medical emergency, whatever, anything can happen,

7:03

and life is extremely delicate, it's

7:05

very tender. So we want to

7:08

have more. reserves. Now, a little

7:10

tangent to this, I have always

7:12

said, and people have asked me

7:14

over the years many times, you

7:16

know, how much cash should I

7:18

have in reserve? Well, the answer

7:21

is, and always has been, 4%

7:23

of the value of your real

7:25

estate portfolio. Are there any exceptions

7:27

to that? Maybe, sure, yeah. If

7:29

you have a giant portfolio, right,

7:31

if you have a hundred million

7:33

dollar portfolio of real estate, do

7:35

you need four million dollars set

7:37

aside? I don't know, it depends

7:39

on the type of properties and

7:41

so forth, probably not. Why? Because

7:44

the law of large numbers is working

7:46

in your favor. Think about it. Think

7:48

about the casino game roulette. I don't

7:50

gamble, well, I guess I gamble a

7:52

little bit in business and life, but

7:54

I don't gamble in Las Vegas, right?

7:56

Just doesn't interest me. But think about

7:59

the game roulette. right? You've got

8:01

red and black. And most of

8:03

the time, one of those is

8:05

going to win. And those are

8:07

just one to one odds, right?

8:10

But there's the zero and the

8:12

double zero. And just with those

8:14

two positions out of all the

8:16

other positions that are either red

8:18

or black or odd or even

8:21

on the table, right? That's how

8:23

the casino wins. It wins because

8:25

of the law of large numbers.

8:27

So the other lesson there have

8:29

a larger portfolio of investments because

8:32

the likelihood of them all going

8:34

bad at the same time is

8:36

extremely low. We all know that,

8:38

right? So if you have you

8:41

know, the old saying, right, if

8:43

you have one property and it's

8:45

vacant, you have a 100% vacancy

8:47

rate. If you have 100 properties

8:49

and only one is vacant, well,

8:52

you only have a 1% vacancy

8:54

rate, the law of large numbers.

8:56

I know that's not an exact

8:58

example. But, you know, write in

9:01

the comments below if you're watching

9:03

this on video, what your thoughts

9:05

are on that. And if you're

9:07

listening on the podcast audio only,

9:09

you can always go to JasonHarpment.com.com/ask

9:12

and Any comments and questions are

9:14

always welcome there. Okay, several things

9:16

I want to cover with you

9:18

today. Number one, rent continues to

9:21

increase with lower supply and increased

9:23

demand for 2025. Recovery continues for

9:25

the real estate market. Now, when

9:27

they say that, what does that

9:29

actually mean? Does that mean recovery

9:32

of prices, recovery of rents? Does

9:34

it mean multifamily? Does it mean

9:36

single family? Does it mean office

9:38

space, which is an absolute disaster?

9:41

We all know that, right. Recovery

9:43

from which angle. Right? If inventory

9:45

increases and there's more supply of

9:47

housing on the market, whether it

9:49

be rental or for sale housing,

9:52

and you are a buyer or

9:54

a renter, you would consider that

9:56

a recovery. You would consider that

9:58

great news. And a lot of

10:01

the housing pundits, by the way,

10:03

view it that way. They think

10:05

a recovery or a positive sign

10:07

on the market is more inventory.

10:09

And I actually agree with them.

10:12

because I just don't think it's

10:14

good for society to have an

10:16

extremely tight housing shortage the way

10:18

we do. However, if you're an

10:21

investor, now my comment there was

10:23

definitely not self-serving, because if you're

10:25

an investor and you already own

10:27

properties, you love a shortage, right?

10:29

From your angle, you think a

10:32

recovery is lower supply and a

10:34

tighter, tighter market. always depends on

10:36

your point of view, right? And

10:38

the point of view from which

10:41

the article is being written or

10:43

the story is being reported. Significant

10:45

changes from increased interest rates and

10:47

supply chain disruptions over the recent

10:49

years are still unraveling. Both commercial

10:52

and residential investors are expecting positive

10:54

trend for 2025 with multifamily rents

10:56

projected to increase by two to

10:58

two and a half percent. Now

11:01

the multifamily market. We know apartment

11:03

complexes have been in trouble lately

11:05

because they had so many deliveries

11:07

of new units. There was such

11:09

a construction backlog. But when I

11:12

say backlog, I mean, there was

11:14

a lot of construction. hitting the

11:16

market, a lot of finished units

11:18

hitting the market. And that was

11:21

a real problem. Now this didn't

11:23

happen in single family homes. There's

11:25

been pretty much an extreme shortage

11:27

all the way along, except, and

11:29

really I would say that's the

11:32

last 10 years. I was talking

11:34

to a friend about this today.

11:36

She owns a real estate software

11:38

company, and I was saying, you

11:41

know, it's always been us complaining

11:43

about not enough inventory for a

11:45

decade. 10 years since 2015, that's

11:47

pretty much been the mantra. However,

11:49

there are obviously local differences, right?

11:52

If you look at Austin, Texas,

11:54

for example, or even a couple

11:56

of Florida markets, inventory is definitely

11:58

increasing in those markets. And we're

12:01

going to look at something on

12:03

that in just a moment. But

12:05

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love this software. Okay so let's

15:36

take a look at some inventory

15:38

stats for just a moment. Now

15:40

this is interesting because it depends

15:43

where you get the data and

15:45

this is redfin data and it

15:47

shows that there are currently almost

15:49

one 0.8 million active listings. Now

15:52

this is seasonally adjusted, okay, so

15:54

it will kind of smooth out

15:56

there a little bit, but that's

15:58

not the number we use. We

16:00

go with the altos data, okay,

16:03

and red fins similar to NAR

16:05

data, but it doesn't matter what

16:07

data you use, it matters that

16:09

you compare it historically to the

16:12

same data. That is what is

16:14

important. So with a consumer price

16:16

index, for example, this is a

16:18

good comparison. This is a good

16:20

comparison. the CPI or the CPI,

16:23

as I call it, they had

16:25

some big changes to the consumer

16:27

price index right around 1980. They

16:29

made some big, big changes. And

16:32

that's why inflation reporting seems much

16:34

more desirable than it used to

16:36

be. That was most likely a

16:38

response to the high inflation of

16:40

the 1970s, and they changed it,

16:43

and they have been lying to

16:45

us ever since. Remember, three major

16:47

ways. They manipulate the inflation data,

16:49

waiting, substitution, and hedonic indexing. I've

16:52

talked about that on many other

16:54

prior episodes. So you can always

16:56

go to JasonHartman.com. You can click

16:58

on our little chatbot or you

17:00

can go directly to it by

17:03

going to JasonHartman.com/AI for artificial intelligence.

17:05

And you can talk to my

17:07

AI clone. where I have become

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immortal. Well, I guess immortal as

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long as we're paying the bill

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for the clone, right? As soon

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as the bill stops paying, the

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clone will die, okay, or it

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stops being paid. And you can

17:23

ask it any question, but you

17:25

can find the episodes because it

17:27

footnotes and references my material that

17:29

it's been trained on, almost 2,000

17:31

podcast episodes. So, a lot of

17:34

content there, a lot of good

17:36

stuff there for you. So. 635,000

17:38

is the inventory number of active

17:40

listings, according to the altos data,

17:43

which I prefer. And I don't

17:45

prefer it because it's a lower

17:47

number. I prefer it because it's

17:49

a more consistent and more accurate

17:51

number. It does not include pending

17:54

sales. It does not include contingent

17:56

sales like this other data does.

17:58

But again, as long as you

18:00

make the apples to apples comparison.

18:03

That's okay. Because what do we

18:05

have here? If we look at

18:07

the redfin data, we had almost

18:09

3 million active listings, according to

18:11

what they call active, in 2012,

18:14

right, coming out of the Great

18:16

Recession in 2012. And now we've

18:18

got 1.75 million active listings, okay,

18:20

so million, 800,000 almost. versus the

18:23

600,000. It just depends what you

18:25

call active and whether or not

18:27

it's seasonally adjusted. Okay, that's another

18:29

important thing. All right, so here

18:31

is yet another metric. Now this

18:34

is from realtor.com and I want

18:36

you to see the difference here.

18:38

Now, the altos data tells us

18:40

we have about 635,000 listings and

18:43

the realtor.com data tells us 847,

18:45

it doesn't tell us what the

18:47

redfin data says that's 1. 1.8

18:49

million. So do you see how

18:51

confusing this can be? Just compare

18:54

apples to apples. That's really all

18:56

you need to do most of

18:58

the time. And here, if we

19:00

look at these different years, right,

19:03

we see that in 2017, okay,

19:05

whereas the 2017 line, we had

19:07

a much higher inventory, almost, well,

19:09

not quite double, but yeah, like

19:11

180% of the inventory we have

19:14

today, I guess, would be about

19:16

the accurate number. And back in

19:18

2022, in the COVID era, the

19:20

number was less than half and

19:23

it got down even lower than

19:25

that. Again, if you're using the

19:27

consistent alto stats, about 240,000 homes

19:29

is all we had for sale

19:31

back then during the COVID era.

19:34

Okay, so let's look at some

19:36

more stuff here. Now this is

19:38

the Florida supply, okay, and it

19:40

says Florida housing supply hits record

19:43

high, but this is very misleading.

19:45

Why is it so misleading? So

19:47

if we go back, this chart

19:49

goes back to 2012. Okay, so

19:51

it goes back 13 years, and

19:54

we see that the inventory is

19:56

higher now than it was 13

19:58

years ago, but it's about the

20:00

same as it was in the

20:03

pre-pandemic level. In fact, it's like

20:05

exactly the same as it was

20:07

in 2019. Okay, so what does

20:09

that mean? This is extremely misleading

20:11

because the Florida population has increased

20:14

quite dramatically. And it's not only

20:16

population that counts. it's number of

20:18

households. So you would be very

20:20

wrong to compare this chart and

20:23

say, oh, the Florida housing market

20:25

is terrible, because 13 years ago,

20:27

inventory was lower than it is

20:29

today. Well. the whole state was

20:31

smaller than it is today. The

20:34

population was much smaller than it

20:36

is today. The number of households

20:38

were much smaller than they are

20:40

today. The number of jobs available

20:43

in Florida were much smaller than

20:45

they were today. The number of

20:47

retiring baby boomers that moved from

20:49

the northeastern states with the terrible

20:51

climates after they were tired was

20:54

much smaller than it is today.

20:56

So again, you got to just

20:58

peel back the layers of these

21:00

onions folks and really... understand the

21:03

truth of the matter, and that

21:05

is the truth of the matter.

21:07

Now, this is another interesting thing,

21:09

and it is average home prices

21:11

versus inflation. And it shows you

21:14

the buying power, because the buying

21:16

power in 1963, right? 1963, that's

21:18

where they have parody, where the

21:20

home price and inflation start, and

21:23

The house there is $18,215. By

21:25

2009, the house price was $215,000,

21:27

but the buying power was only

21:29

$185,000. So this is where you

21:31

see there's this big separation between

21:34

buying power and home price. And

21:36

now you see it is terrible.

21:38

2023 is where it's at $425,000.

21:40

The home price versus inflation went

21:42

down a little bit vis-a-vis inflation

21:45

only, but the buying power remains

21:47

dramatically, dramatically lower than the house

21:49

price, even when it's adjusted for

21:51

inflation. So what does this mean?

21:54

What does it tell you? It

21:56

tells you. that landlords are going

21:58

to be very happy that it

22:00

is a renting market right well

22:02

let me say that correctly it

22:05

is not a renters market although

22:07

a lot of renters will be

22:09

renting because they can't afford to

22:11

buy it is a landlord's market

22:14

and that's why you want to

22:16

own more property in this landlords

22:18

market because that appears only be

22:20

getting more and more significant that

22:22

divergence between buying power and house

22:25

prices. And I have a little

22:27

more data for you here. Now

22:29

this one starts in 1985 and

22:31

you can see how income does

22:34

not keep up with rent, not

22:36

even close, right? The percentage change

22:38

in rent versus the percentage change

22:40

in income is dramatically different. Okay,

22:42

1985 started at parody, 1995, it

22:45

was pretty darn close, like it

22:47

was affordable to rent a house,

22:49

but now the rent is just

22:51

dramatically higher than the income. Now,

22:54

what would be misleading about this?

22:56

Always ask yourself that. What is

22:58

the chart not telling us is

23:00

the house itself got better. The

23:02

house we were willing to accept

23:05

in 1985 had inferior finishes. it

23:07

was smaller in size and it

23:09

was not as good a house

23:11

as today's house. Okay, today's house

23:14

is a better house except for

23:16

one thing. The lot size got

23:18

smaller, the land shrunk, but the

23:20

house got better, right? So we

23:22

see, you know, the average lot

23:25

size versus the house keeps getting

23:27

bigger, but the lot size keeps

23:29

getting smaller. So there are many

23:31

factors here and I just want

23:34

you to always realize all of

23:36

those factors. Terrace. Trump tariffs are

23:38

a big big deal obviously and

23:40

you see that Trump is definitely

23:42

shaking up the world. He's actually

23:45

demanding that Ukraine pay the US

23:47

back for the massive support it

23:49

got in. It's worth it. And

23:51

why is that considered unreasonable? I

23:54

mean, that's just reasonable. Hey, look,

23:56

it's like we were the lender

23:58

of last resort and we lent

24:00

money and weapons, right? High-tech, great

24:02

fantastic weapons. And Ukraine has to

24:05

pass back for that. Imagine that.

24:07

Well, what else is Trump doing

24:09

to piss everybody off? Okay. Well,

24:11

he's only pissing off. less than

24:14

half the people, but you know,

24:16

whatever. Let's look at housing stocks

24:18

here. So D.R. Horton, largest home

24:20

builder in America, housing their stock

24:22

price way down. Okay, with all

24:25

this, this news of tariffs, Lanar,

24:27

same thing. These builders are really,

24:29

really concerned about the tariffs. And

24:31

I'm sure they are in full

24:34

lobbying mode to lobby the administration

24:36

to not do tariffs. But Trump

24:38

actually, being the very smart guy

24:40

that he is, I know some

24:42

of you are thinking, oh he's

24:45

an idiot, you know, whatever, you're

24:47

wrong, but oh well, he's pretty

24:49

darn smart, or at least he

24:51

has smart advisors, I don't know,

24:54

whatever, the result. is pretty smart.

24:56

What he's doing now is opening

24:58

up whole new channels for harvesting

25:00

timber, just like he did with

25:02

oil. That's going to hopefully offset

25:05

the tariff problem. But think about

25:07

what happens. Here's the genius mix

25:09

of that, right? You tariff the

25:11

imports, the government raises money from

25:14

those tariffs, which means the external

25:16

revenue service rather than the internal

25:18

revenue service is now bringing in

25:20

extra funding for the government, lessening

25:22

the burden on all of us

25:25

taxpayers. Okay, so that's one effect.

25:27

The other thing that happens is

25:29

Americans now think, well, maybe I

25:31

ought to get into manufacturing all

25:34

those things that are normally imported

25:36

or these Chinese companies or whatever

25:38

country companies, they set up shop

25:40

in the United States. They employ

25:42

more people here, hire paying American

25:45

jobs, which mean more people with

25:47

more money to grow the economy

25:49

and stimulate the economy and create

25:51

more tax revenue. And at the

25:54

same time, Trump says we've got

25:56

all of these crops we can

25:58

harvest. Trees are just a crop.

26:00

They're just like corn. Listen, I

26:02

love trees. When I went to

26:05

New Zealand with my girlfriend Hillary

26:07

years ago, I decided I was

26:09

a closet tree hugger. Okay, I

26:11

love trees. They're beautiful. Absolutely love

26:13

them. I'm here in Santiago. Tree-lined

26:16

streets everywhere. It's just gorgeous. I

26:18

love vegetables too. Vegetables are just

26:20

a crop. That's what trees are.

26:22

They're just a crop that takes

26:25

longer to grow. Okay, so it's

26:27

fine to harvest them as long

26:29

as you replant them. All right?

26:31

just like any crop. It's fine

26:33

to harvest corn as long as

26:36

you replant it, okay? But for

26:38

those of you not watching on

26:40

video, I'm showing a chart of

26:42

the import reliance for home building

26:45

inputs in 2024. Builders heavily rely

26:47

on Chinese imports for appliances, small

26:49

appliances, nearly 50%. hardware nearly 50%

26:51

sawmill wood products. Okay. And that's

26:53

what Trump is lessening the price

26:56

pressure on now by allowing more

26:58

tree harvesting inside the US. Okay.

27:00

And that is about 30% plumbing

27:02

fixtures and trim. That's about 25%

27:05

and glass products about 20%. So

27:07

the mix is what's important. If

27:09

builders can buy American made or

27:11

American harvested materials, without those price

27:13

increases of the tariffs. That's great.

27:16

They pay higher prices for some

27:18

things for a time until the

27:20

American manufacturing catches up or the

27:22

foreign companies come and set up

27:25

shop here and create higher paying

27:27

American jobs. But all of this

27:29

has one. thing in common. The

27:31

net result is inflation, inflation, and

27:33

you as a real estate investor

27:36

benefit from that dramatically, inflation induced

27:38

debt destruction, higher housing costs, the

27:40

greatest hedge against inflation ever is

27:42

income property, higher rents, and higher

27:45

affordability from more American workers who

27:47

either get less taxed because we

27:49

have the external revenue service that

27:51

makes us rely less on the

27:53

internal revenue service, and they have

27:56

just higher paying jobs. So the

27:58

net result of that, more money

28:00

to spend into the economy, more

28:02

dollars, limited supply of goods and

28:05

services, inflation, classic definition. So on

28:07

the tariffs, there are so much

28:09

news on this, there's no way

28:11

we could possibly cover it, but

28:13

just a little bit of an

28:16

example here. This is from one

28:18

of my newsletters that says, as

28:20

the Trump administration weighs new tariffs

28:22

on China, Apple has announced plans

28:25

to invest 500 billion in the

28:27

United States, over the next four

28:29

years, including the addition of 20,000

28:31

new hires to its workforce. So

28:33

how many employees does Apple have?

28:36

I think they have like 80,000

28:38

employees or something like that, right?

28:40

It's an incredible number. So they're

28:42

going to increase their workforce by

28:45

25% in the United States and

28:47

invest half a trillion dollars in

28:49

the US. Right? They wouldn't have

28:51

done this if it wasn't for

28:53

Trump. If it wasn't for the

28:56

tariff threats, this would have never

28:58

happened. They would have just continued

29:00

with their cheap overseas manufacturing. Apple

29:02

will open a 250,000 square foot

29:05

server facility in Houston slated to

29:07

begin operations next year with plans

29:09

to expand to other states and

29:11

hire thousands more people. New jobs

29:13

will mostly focus on research and

29:16

development, Silicon Engineering, AI and machine

29:18

learning the company said. What do

29:20

you think those jobs pay? I

29:22

think those jobs pay pretty well.

29:25

That means those people really really

29:27

contribute to the economy. Apple said

29:29

the investment will also boost its

29:31

chip manufacturing efforts in the United

29:33

States, as well as skills development

29:36

programs for students and workers. The

29:38

move came shortly after CEO Tim

29:40

Cook met with President Trump, who

29:42

recently imposed a 10% tariff on

29:45

goods imported from China. Wow, you

29:47

want to make the country stronger,

29:49

you want to bring the manufacturing

29:51

here, you want to make the

29:53

hiring happen here, and it's so

29:56

much. better. Why it matters. Questions

29:58

remain about Apple's motivations in announcing

30:00

the investment, whether to shield itself

30:02

from tariffs or to signal an

30:05

America first stance to the Trump

30:07

administration. Other tech companies are also

30:09

investing billions in the US, including

30:11

open AI, Microsoft, Soft Bank, Oracle,

30:13

through the 500 billion dollar Stargate

30:16

project. Folks, this is genius. These

30:18

tariffs are going to work. They

30:20

are going to work beautifully. And

30:22

I know some of you have

30:25

your doubts, but just wait. You

30:27

know, there's that old biblical principle

30:29

of being equally yoked, right? In

30:31

a marriage, you need to be

30:33

equally yoked. In a business deal,

30:36

both partners, both sides need to

30:38

be equally yoked. They have to

30:40

have equal amount of burden and

30:42

obligation on them. And the tariffs.

30:44

level the playing field. So it's

30:47

going to be wonderful. Now, you

30:49

want to know another genius move?

30:51

Oh, wow. Just came out last

30:53

week. Trump's new gold card program.

30:56

This is brilliant. It is brilliant.

30:58

Do you know the massive amount

31:00

of stimulation this will do for

31:02

the US economy? It will be

31:04

nothing short of incredible. So what

31:07

is that program? He wants to

31:09

offer a $5 million. essentially golden

31:11

visa to wealthy foreigners to come

31:13

to the US, have residency in

31:16

the US, have a path to

31:18

citizenship in the US, and all

31:20

of those people are going to

31:22

bring their talent, their brains, their

31:24

capital, the amount of what used

31:27

to be called foreign direct investment

31:29

wouldn't even be considered FDI or

31:31

foreign direct investment. It would just

31:33

be investment because these people would

31:36

live in the US. They would

31:38

hire people, they would stimulate the

31:40

economy, they would spend into the

31:42

economy, and it's just beautiful. It's

31:44

incredible. It's an amazing time to

31:47

be alive. We are witnessing incredible

31:49

things going on. And you just

31:51

gave it a little time to

31:53

play out. It's going to be

31:56

phenomenal. Okay, I reported on this

31:58

before. Well, this is Marco Santarelli.

32:00

Another one of these reviews came

32:02

up. I thought this was done,

32:04

but apparently this investment fund, which

32:07

The people say is a scam.

32:09

I don't know. I don't have

32:11

any information myself. I'm just reading

32:13

the reviews and hearing what I

32:16

hear through the industry. But this

32:18

one is from Ari Wealth Creator,

32:20

and it's a one-star review. It

32:22

says, stop stealing investor money. Yes,

32:24

Marco, don't promote your investment opportunities

32:27

and lie about its performance to

32:29

investors. You've lost. hundreds of investors

32:31

money to the listener, you're listening

32:33

to a scam artist or Bernie

32:36

Madoff type. Marco isn't to be

32:38

trusted. He'll steal what he can

32:40

from you. He should be in

32:42

jail. Now, a whole bunch of

32:44

these reviews like this came in

32:47

on iTunes or I should say

32:49

Apple Podcast. Now, several months ago,

32:51

and we did report on it,

32:53

but this one just came in

32:56

the other day. So it's really

32:58

awful to see this kind of

33:00

thing because you want to remember

33:02

Commandment number three. Vow shalt maintain

33:04

control. When you relinquish control to

33:07

another party, and look, in reality,

33:09

we all have to relinquish some

33:11

control to somebody, right? We can't

33:13

be in control of everything. At

33:16

least the economy is in some

33:18

control in the marketplace, right? But

33:20

you leave yourself susceptible to three

33:22

major problems. Number one, you might

33:24

be investing with a crook, okay?

33:27

Bernie Madoff, right? Enron. global crossing,

33:29

you know, all of the scams

33:31

on Wall Street that you've all

33:33

heard about, all of the real

33:36

estate syndicators, all of the fund

33:38

managers that have scanned people, and

33:40

I guarantee you, there are many

33:42

of those out there. right now

33:44

in today's market who seem to

33:47

be great who seem to be

33:49

making money for their investors and

33:51

everybody loves them and they're doing

33:53

great and you know what they

33:56

opened up a bunch of philanthropy

33:58

arm to hide their misdeeds and

34:00

they're doing all this stuff right

34:02

and you just wait a few

34:04

years and you'll see that a

34:07

lot of these people have been

34:09

scamming people so we say Be

34:11

a direct investor, maintain control, valve

34:13

shop, maintain control. Number two problem,

34:16

assuming you invest with someone who's

34:18

honest, the number two problem is

34:20

you might be investing with an

34:22

idiot, right? You'll lose money just

34:24

because of their sheer incompetence. So

34:27

assuming they're honest and competent, the

34:29

third problem is they take a

34:31

giant management fee off the top

34:33

for managing the deal. And you

34:36

don't want to be subject to

34:38

that, right? You want the money

34:40

to flow to you as the

34:42

investor. You don't want to give

34:44

it to some CEO, some fund

34:47

manager, some investment banker, you know,

34:49

you just want to be direct

34:51

as much as possible with your

34:53

investments. Commandment number three. don't let

34:56

this kind of thing happen to

34:58

you. Okay, this is from the

35:00

Wall Street Journal, by the way,

35:02

interest in second homes and rentals

35:04

continues to rise among the wealthy.

35:07

The latest survey from the Wall

35:09

Street Journal Intelligence recorded an uptick

35:11

in real estate investing while other

35:13

passion assets from jewelry to art

35:15

declined. Real estate is the thing

35:18

and everybody wants it. Now imagine

35:20

you combine this with Trump's golden

35:22

visa program. right for a measly

35:24

and by the way that is

35:27

a measly five million dollars that's

35:29

nothing there are so many super

35:31

wealthy people around the world five

35:33

million dollars to have US residency

35:35

and a path to US citizenship

35:38

and have all the opportunities to

35:40

access the US market to access

35:42

US banks to access US lenders

35:44

that's so worth five million dollars

35:47

I mean when you would pay

35:49

a million dollars to get an

35:51

EU citizenship five million for US

35:53

is dramatically better than a million

35:55

for EU. Okay, that's the way

35:58

any wealthy person would do the

36:00

calculus on this. Can you imagine

36:02

when these people come here and

36:04

have access to our markets and

36:07

can just readily buy all these

36:09

properties just like any American? Can

36:11

you imagine how that will massively

36:13

increase demand? Yeah, it will. And

36:15

here is another survey. This is

36:18

from Housing Wire. It says real

36:20

estate investors say they'll expand portfolios

36:22

and make home improvements this year.

36:24

Data shows that nearly 60% of

36:27

US investors plan to acquire new

36:29

properties this year. This is a

36:31

rent ready survey. We had rent

36:33

ready on the show before, by

36:35

the way. What are your plans

36:38

for your real estate portfolio in

36:40

2025? The large landlords, 51% of

36:42

them said. They plan to acquire

36:44

more new properties. And on that

36:47

22% of them, they say they're

36:49

going to do a mix of

36:51

buying and selling and rejiggering their

36:53

portfolios. And 7% say no plans

36:55

to change. All investors overall, 54%,

36:58

so an astounding majority there, right,

37:00

say they plan to expand their

37:02

portfolios, 13% say they're going to

37:04

rejigger and mix them and buy

37:07

and sell. And 31% say they

37:09

don't have any plans yet. Okay,

37:11

and small investors, 54% of those

37:13

say they're going to buy, increase

37:15

the size of their portfolio, and

37:18

the medium investors say that's the

37:20

highest number, 55% of them say

37:22

they are going to expand their

37:24

portfolio size this year. Now, if

37:27

that is where the smart money

37:29

is going, maybe you should be

37:31

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Through creativity, persistence and hard work, he soon joined the ranks of the top one-percent of Realtors in the U.S. and in quick succession; earned a number of prestigious industry awards and became a young multi-millionaire.Jason purchased a Southern California real estate brokerage firm which he expanded dramatically and was later acquired by Coldwell Banker. He combined his dedication and business talents to become a successful entrepreneur, public speaker, author, and media personality. Over the years he developed his Complete Solution for Real Estate Investors™ where his innovative firm educates and assists investors in acquiring prudent investments nationwide for their portfolio. Jason’s highly sought after educational events, speaking engagements, and his ultra-hot “Creating Wealth Podcast” inspire and empower hundreds of thousands of people in 189 countries worldwide.Additional guests featured on the Creating Wealth podcast include Robert Kiyosaki (RIch Dad Poor Dad), Matthew Quirk (The 500 & The Directive), Eve Wright (Life at the Speed of Passion), John Lawrence Allen (Make Wall Street Pay You Back), Jerry Robinson (Bankruptcy in Our Nation), Peter Zeihan (The Accidental Superpower), David Crowe (National Association of Homebuilders NAHB), Consuelo Mack (PBS - Wealth Track), Sean Haugh (Libertarian Candidate for the US Senate), Scott Paul (Alliance for American Manufacturing), Charles Goyette (Ron Paul's America Show), Chris Martenson (Crash Course), Matt Theriault (Epic Real Estate Investing), Christopher Barnatt (The Future of 3D Printing), Zac Bissonnette (Good Advice From Bad People), Rich Karlgaard (Forbes Magazine). Chris Mayer (Agora Financial), Craig R. Smith (The Great Withdrawal), Po Bronson (The Science of Winning & Losing), Jim Stossel (Why Government Fails), John McAfee (Founder of McAfee Anti-Virus Software) Harry Dent (The Great Depression Ahead), Kevin Armstrong (Bulls, Birdies, Bogeys, and Bears), Nick Bilton (Hatching Twitter), Tom Kreautler (The Money Pit), Doug Brunt (Ghosts of Manhattan), Catherine McBreen (Get Rich, Stay Rich, Pass it On), Les Leopold (How to Make a Million Dollars an Hour), Robert Greene (Mastery, Power, & Seduction), Byron Dorgan (Gridlock), Dennis Miller (Retirement Reboot), George Gilder (Knowledge & Power), Jed Kolko (Tulia), Dr. Judith Wright (The Soft Addiction Solution), Richard Duncan (The New Depression), Dave Krieger (Clouded Titles), Bill Ayers (Confessions of an American Dissident), Dr. H. Woody Block (American Gridlock), Steven Kotler (Abundance), Laurence Kotlikoff (The Clash of Generations), Greg Farrell (Crash of the Titans), Shaun Rein (The End of Cheap China), Ken Gronbach (The Age Curve), Amity Shlaes (The Forgotten Man), Roger Lowenstein (The End of Wall Street), Jay Elliot (The Steve Jobs Way), Richard Duncan (The Dollar Crisis & The Corruption of Capitalism), Robert Wiedemer (Aftershock), and Steve Slaunwhite (The Wealthy Freelancer).A trademark feature of Hartman Media podcasts are our 'Tenth Episodes' where alternative topics of interest are explored every tenth episode. This provides a diverse mix of programming exploring issues and influential authors like John Gray (Men Are From Mars, Women Are From Venus), Dan Millman (Way of the Peaceful Warrior), Dr. Denis Waitley (The Psychology of Winning, The Seeds of Greatness), Lori Ann LaRocco (Opportunity Knocking), Mark Divine (Seal Fit: Way of the SEAL), Dr. Jill Ammon-Wexler (The Power of Belief), Dr. Kelly McGonigal (The Willpower Instinct), Doug Conant (Touch Points), Jared Diamond (The World Until Yesterday), Dr. Bob Wright (The Science of Spectacular Living), Jack Canfield (Chicken Soup for the Successful Soul), Sonia Arrison (The Coming Age of Longevity), Dr. David Rock (Your Brain at Work), Gay Hendricks (Relationship Enhancement), Hannah Holmes (Quirk), Dr. Gary Chapman (The Five Love Languages), David Farrow (Millionaire Memory), and David Allen (Getting Things Done), Topics explored at depth on Creating Wealth include investing, income properties, property investing, investment strategies, loan modifications, market predictions, mortgage modifications, online marketing, real estate, rental property investing, subprime mortgage crisis, 401K, retirement, Alibaba.com, alternative currencies, alternative energy, ROI, cash flow, American economy, appreciation, arbitrage, Arkansas housing market, artificial intelligence, asset allocation, Atlanta Georgia, income property investing, attorneys, Australian mining, Austin real estate, baby boom generation, baby boomers, banking, bank loans, bankruptcies, Belize, Ben Bernanke, billionaires, bonds, book reviews, boom bust cycles, Boston, brand management, branding, Brookings Institution, Breton Woods, BP, British Petroleum, bubble markets, building wealth, business cycles, business psychology, business travelers, California, California Department of Insurance, CDI, California real estate, capital gains tax, Case-Shiller, Casey Research, cash flow, central banks, certificates of deposit, Chicago, Chicago real estate, China, college tuition, Colorado, commercial investing, commodities, commodity pricing, compound interest, conversions, CPI, Consumer Price Index, Dallas, dark pools, debt ceiling, debt crisis, debt-financed spending, deflation, Detroit, Detroit real estate, digital money, distressed properties, down payment, email marketing, estate tax, high cash flow, home equity, home financing, Indiana, Indianapolis, interest rates, jobless recovery, Kansas City, leverage, libertarian, Little Rock, maintenance warranty, management fees, Manhattan, marketing, Memphis, Miami, Michigan, mircopreneur, middle class, millennials, millionaire, Minneapolis, Minnesota, Missouri, Mississippi, MLS, mobile banking, monetary policy, money market fund, negative equity, new home construction, New Orleans, New York, New York City, North Carolina, Ohio, oil, oil prediction, overpriced markets, packaged commodities, passive income, passive investor, payroll tax, pension, pension funds, pension plans, Platinum Properties, positive cash-flow, price stability, price of gold, price volatility, private money lending, pro forma, property appraisal, property value, real estate arbitrage, real estate tax, rent, rental, renovated homes, rental homes, rental income, rental insurance, San Antonio, San Diego, San Francisco, single-family homes, social marketing, social media, Swiss Franc, Swiss National Bank, Tampa, tax, tax laws, tax bracket, tax lien, taxes, tenant, tenant eviction, Tennessee, Texas, treasury reports, unemployment, unfriendly markets, US housing market, venture capital, volatility, Warren Buffet, Washington, wealth management, whistleblowers, world economy, Zero Hedge.Additional topics explored on the Creating Wealth podcast include Bitcoin, digital currencies, corporate tax inversions, crowdfunding, inflation, the Federal Reserve, student loan debt, monetary policy, economic challenges facing generation Y, solar energy, 3D printing, medical technology, US dollar, currency exchange, plunging bond rates, personal and commercial bankruptcy, the cost of a college education, digital banking, the American dream, capital gains taxes, asset protection, gold and silver, commodities markets, precious metals, investing tips, structural and personal unemployment, bank regulations, regulatory reform, emerging markets, shadow banking, social media, derivatives, mobile commerce, government regulation, housing market, identity theft, cyber currencies, mortgage lenders, investment properties, VA loans, gold standard, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, online auctions, landlord tenant conflicts, tax lien investing, tax law, retirement, contract law, stagflation, home loans, real estate scams, renters, reverse mortgages, foreclosures, euro, European Union, ECB, European Central Bank, the US housing market, micro lending, online security, cyber security, online banking, digital banking, outsourcing, online shopping, Amazon, Apple, Facebook, Twitter, JP Morgan, short sales, austerity, forex, monetary systems, budget surplus, budget deficits, tax cuts, solar energy, consumer debt, consumer price index, property investing, high frequency trading, interest rates, college tuition, cashless societies, credit card debt, credit monitoring, credit ratings, currency trading, refinancing, federal stimulus, financial independence, financial planning, financial literacy, economic growth, economic development, Wall Street, IPO, IRS, Internal Revenue Service, IMF, International Monetary Fund, mobile banking, Elliot Wave theory, free trade, underwater homeowners, foreign investing, oil prices, entrepreneurship, Equifax, federal budget, Keynes, Keynesian, fiat currency, financial scams, global economy, gold standard, income tax, and foreign investment.

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