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bar 20. In June of
1:36
2009, a Nissan Central
1:38
with four bodies in
1:41
it was pulled from
1:43
a canal near Kingston,
1:45
Ontario. In part one, we discussed the
1:48
backstory of the family at the center
1:50
of this case, and now in part two,
1:52
we are going to discuss the crime
1:54
scene, the changing stories, and the final
1:56
resolution. I'm Charlie and welcome to Crime
1:58
Lines. Hello
2:07
and welcome back to Crime Lines, just
2:09
to catch us up to where we
2:11
left off with Part 1. Three of
2:13
the Shafia's seven children were
2:15
found drowned in a
2:17
car, 19-year-old Zaneb, 17-year-old
2:20
Sahar, and 13-year-old Giti.
2:22
Alongside them was their father's
2:24
first wife from his polygynous
2:26
marriage, Rona Amir Muhammad. Though
2:29
Rona was not the biological mother
2:31
of any of the children, She
2:33
did help raise all of them
2:35
and she was the primary caretaker
2:38
for Sahar, so I would characterize
2:40
her as a mother figure to
2:42
most of them, but to Sahar
2:44
she was her mother. The biological
2:46
parents of the girls,
2:49
Muhammad and Tuba, along
2:51
with their 18-year-old son Hamid,
2:53
tried to say that this was a
2:55
joy ride gone wrong. They claimed that
2:57
Zainab had asked for the keys to the
3:00
Nissan under the guise of getting her clothes
3:02
out of the trunk, and then she took
3:04
off in the car with the others. But
3:06
the investigators came to believe
3:08
that Zainab did not drive the car
3:10
into the canal where it was found.
3:12
For one thing, like I mentioned in part
3:15
one, this was not exactly an
3:17
easily accessible part of the canal.
3:19
No one could have driven in there
3:21
unintentionally, no matter how bad of a
3:23
driver of a driver they were. But
3:25
the police did not believe
3:27
that anyone drove the car
3:29
into the canal intentionally
3:32
either. And that's because while the
3:34
keys were in the ignition and
3:36
the car was in gear, the
3:38
ignition was in the off position.
3:41
The car could have at most
3:43
rolled into the water, unless it
3:45
was pushed. Near the area where
3:47
the Nissan went into the
3:49
canal, they found seven pieces
3:52
of plastic from a head-to-light
3:54
cover. In looking at the Nissan it was
3:56
easy to see that the broken pieces did not
3:59
come from that vehicle. But one of the
4:01
tail lights of the Nissan was
4:03
broken and there was rear bumper
4:05
damage on that same side as
4:07
though the Nissan had been hit
4:09
from behind. The other strange
4:11
thing was that there were no indications
4:14
that any of the four women
4:16
tried to exit the car when
4:18
it went into the water. No
4:20
one was wearing seat belts and
4:23
the driver's window was open.
4:25
Under those circumstances, in the
4:27
experience of these divers,
4:30
they would have expected that
4:32
at least one person, even
4:34
if they weren't much of a
4:36
swimmer, would have gotten either out of
4:38
the window or maybe even halfway
4:40
out, like if they got caught
4:42
up on the steering wheel or a
4:44
seat belt. But it didn't
4:46
look like anyone even tried
4:48
to get to that window. So were
4:51
they even alive when they went
4:53
into the water? The autopsies, unfortunately,
4:55
could not answer this
4:58
question definitively. It was
5:00
determined that all four had drowned,
5:03
but the pathologist could not say
5:05
if they were conscious when they
5:07
drowned or unconscious at the time.
5:09
He couldn't say whether they were in
5:11
the car when they drowned or if
5:14
they were drowned first, placed into the
5:16
car, and then the car was pushed
5:18
into the water. He did find
5:20
that Rona, Zainab, and Getty all
5:23
had fresh bruising to the tops
5:25
of their heads, and this bruising
5:27
was fairly substantial with Rona and
5:30
Getty. So was that from someone striking
5:32
them on the heads, or was
5:34
it from the impact as the
5:36
car went into the water? No one
5:38
could say for sure. There were no other
5:41
significant injuries, and the toxicology report
5:43
was clear. No drugs or alcohol
5:45
in their systems. So it's not
5:48
like they had been drugged or
5:50
they drank to the point of
5:53
unconsciousness. Basically, during the
5:55
early part of the investigation,
5:57
there was enough here to
5:59
suspect. aside, but there was not
6:01
yet enough to prove it. So
6:03
when the news broke about
6:06
the deaths, the community largely
6:08
rallied around the Shefia family.
6:11
They just lost four family
6:13
members in what looked to
6:15
the public, like a tragic
6:18
but unintentional event. They even
6:20
did some tearful media
6:22
interviews, which I'm sure
6:25
the investigators watched with interest,
6:27
because we know now the
6:29
Muhammad and even Tuba were
6:31
suspects from day one. While
6:33
those new segments were airing
6:36
and the community was rallying
6:38
around this family, the investigators
6:40
were gathering evidence and
6:43
building a case. And like we
6:45
see so often in these modern
6:47
cases, it ended up being a
6:49
mix of a digital footprint and
6:51
witnesses coming forward that
6:53
built out the timeline of this
6:56
case. And we're going to get
6:58
into that timeline now, but to
7:00
avoid backtracking too much and making
7:02
this episode unnecessarily longer than it
7:04
needs to be, I will point
7:06
out how the information would later
7:09
fit into the crown's eventual theory
7:11
of the crime as we go. We
7:13
need to start back before this trip
7:15
even happened. We are going to
7:17
start with the time of Zenab's wedding,
7:19
since that seems to be the
7:22
first major event on the timeline,
7:24
the catalyst of what would come.
7:26
During the time period after Zainab
7:28
moved back home after she had gone
7:30
to the woman shelter, and during the
7:33
time Tuba was still trying to talk
7:35
her out of going through with the
7:37
marriage, so about a two-week block,
7:39
Tuba reached out to her brother Fazel.
7:42
He lived in Sweden, but he
7:44
was trying to mediate the situation
7:46
over the phone the best he
7:48
could. When he talked to Zainab,
7:50
he came to the conclusion that
7:52
she wasn't ready for marriage. but
7:54
that she really wanted out of her
7:57
father's house. Fozle told the family
7:59
that he won... to go to Montreal
8:01
and meet with Ammar Zenab's intended
8:03
husband. If Zenab was going to
8:06
marry him for love or just
8:08
to get out of the house,
8:10
he needed to know that Amar
8:13
was ready to support a wife.
8:15
But as to not overstep too
8:17
much as an uncle, he called
8:20
Muhammad who was in Dubai at
8:22
the time to ask for permission.
8:24
According to Fazal, Muhammad did not
8:27
approve of him going to Montreal
8:29
because he did not approve of
8:31
Amar under any circumstances and he
8:34
really didn't care about Fazal's assessment
8:36
of the situation. Muhammad instead gave
8:38
Fazal a counter-proposal. He suggested that
8:41
Fazal invite some of the family,
8:43
including Zainab, to Sweden for a
8:45
vacation. Muhammad would meet them over
8:48
there. and while out for a
8:50
picnic at the beach or along
8:52
a river, Muhammad would push Zainab
8:55
into the water and drown her
8:57
for dishonoring the family. Fazel was
8:59
appalled, cursed at Muhammad, and hung
9:02
up on him. He then called
9:04
Tuba and their other brother who
9:06
happened to live in Montreal to
9:09
tell them what Muhammad had said
9:11
and to warn them that he
9:13
might be dangerously angry over the
9:16
situation. Before Zainab ended up drowning
9:18
in a canal, you can see
9:21
how this statement may have been
9:23
brushed off as an angry outburst
9:25
and not an actual plan or
9:28
a proposal for murder. But knowing
9:30
that is where we're headed, it
9:32
does look like this may have
9:35
been the start of the planning.
9:37
And we will see more of
9:39
this during the month of June
9:42
where there were several searches done
9:44
on a family laptop. for things
9:46
related to bodies of water, things
9:49
like boat rentals, areas of the
9:51
Ottawa River, and mountain spots with
9:53
water. This included the Utaway Reed
9:56
where the family went out of
9:58
their way to visit prior to
10:00
heading to Niagara Falls. This area
10:03
has lakes, a river, and even
10:05
a reservoir. This area really had
10:07
the investigators' attention because according to
10:10
Hamid's cell phone records, he had
10:12
driven up there on June 20th,
10:14
three days before the family left
10:17
for their road trip vacation, and
10:19
then he came home later that
10:21
same day. This is a nearly
10:24
seven-hour round trip, so it seems
10:26
like he went up there for
10:28
a very specific reason. After Hamid
10:31
got back to Montreal from this
10:33
trip, there were more searches on
10:35
the laptop related to that area
10:38
and a search for, quote, where
10:40
to commit a murder. One of
10:42
the hard things with computer evidence
10:45
like this is putting a specific
10:47
person behind that keyboard. particularly when
10:49
we're talking about a household that
10:52
has 10 people living there. It
10:54
appeared that the laptop had been
10:57
purchased by Muhammad, but it was
10:59
used primarily by Hamid based on
11:01
what people said, and the digital
11:04
evidence also supported this. When Hamid
11:06
was in Montreal and Muhammad was
11:08
in Dubai, the computer connected to
11:11
the internet in Montreal. It was
11:13
only after Hamid went to Dubai
11:15
that the laptop was used there.
11:18
So this definitely seems to be...
11:20
Hamid's laptop. We also have one
11:22
more clue as to which of
11:25
the two men were using this.
11:27
The searches were all conducted in
11:29
English. Mohammed did not generally use
11:32
English outside of situations where it
11:34
was necessary, even when he was
11:36
being interviewed by the police. Mohammed
11:39
used a Farsi interpreter. Hamid, however,
11:41
was completely fluent in English, having
11:43
attended English-speaking schools. McLean's magazine called
11:46
the searches and Hamid's trip out
11:48
to the Utaway region a quote
11:50
full-blown reconnaissance. And is there any
11:53
other way to put it? Hamid
11:55
started re- researching this to the
11:57
point that he did a seven-hour
12:00
trip in one day just to
12:02
check it out. The police came
12:04
to believe that the murders were
12:07
initially supposed to happen while they
12:09
were up there, but something stopped
12:11
them and they had to pivot.
12:14
So they got a hotel for
12:16
the night and then kept driving
12:18
on toward Niagara Falls, stopping for
12:21
40 minutes in the area of
12:23
the canal where the car would
12:25
eventually be found. And it turned
12:28
out that this wasn't the only
12:30
visit to that area prior to
12:32
the deaths. In the middle of
12:35
the trip to Niagara, on June
12:37
27th at around 8.30 at night,
12:40
Sahar's phone called Hamid's phone. Sahar's
12:42
phone pinged near the falls, but
12:44
Hamid's phone pinged off a tower
12:47
just about 15 minutes or so
12:49
away from the locks. Why did
12:51
Hamid drive nearly four hours to
12:54
Kingston Mill locks? three days before
12:56
the murders. It looked like another
12:58
reconnaissance mission. The family then checked
13:01
out of the hotel at Niagara
13:03
Falls around 8 p.m. on June
13:05
29th and started driving back towards
13:08
Montreal. This was a pretty late
13:10
start for a road trip and
13:12
the police think that was also
13:15
on purpose. Someone wanted to make
13:17
sure Rona, Zaneb, Sahar, and Gidi.
13:19
were all tired and possibly even
13:22
sleeping in the car as they
13:24
drove. As they traveled through Kingston
13:26
late at night, there were multiple
13:29
places they could have exited the
13:31
highway to pick hotels. But instead
13:33
of choosing an area where there
13:36
were several hotel options, they passed
13:38
all that. They got through town
13:40
and got off the highway at
13:43
the exit that would take them
13:45
to the canal locks. The rest
13:47
of the timeline, the rest of
13:50
what we're gonna talk about right
13:52
now, is in the realm of
13:54
just a theory. And it would
13:57
have to be tried out in
13:59
court. But what the government believed
14:01
happened was that the two cars
14:04
stopped near the canal and Mohammed
14:06
and Hamid took the surviving children
14:09
to the motel where they booked
14:11
two rooms. Even telling the night
14:13
manager there would be six people
14:15
staying, not the ten people they
14:17
had in their family. Tuba claimed
14:20
she and the other four drove
14:22
until they found the motel, but
14:24
that made no sense. What made
14:26
more sense. was that Mohammed and
14:28
Hamid left the three kids, aka
14:31
the potential witnesses, at the
14:33
motel, while they went back
14:35
to where Tuba, Rona, Zenab, Sahar,
14:37
and Gidi were waiting. This
14:39
would have been around 1.30
14:41
in the morning, based on
14:43
Sahar's phone records. Her cell phone
14:46
last pinged at 1.36 a. And
14:48
it pinged off a tower near
14:50
the canal. While the authorities could
14:52
not prove this forensically, they
14:54
believed that when Muhammad and
14:56
Hamid arrived, the four women
14:59
were drowned at least to
15:01
the point of unconsciousness. They were
15:03
then placed into the Nissan and the
15:05
car was driven up to the lock
15:08
that it would eventually go into.
15:10
And this is the point where
15:12
things first went wrong in this
15:14
plan of theirs. The driver of
15:16
the Nissan got out of the
15:19
car and reached through the open
15:21
driver's side window, shifted it into
15:23
first gear, and took a step
15:25
back to watch the car creep its
15:27
way into the water. But based
15:29
on damage done to the underside
15:32
of the Nissan, the police believe
15:34
it got stuck with just the
15:36
front wheels over the edge. Now, they
15:38
had to pivot. At some point, someone
15:41
reached through the window to turn
15:43
off the engine. which would later
15:45
be one of the first things
15:47
that told the investigators the car
15:49
had not been driven into
15:51
the canal. Someone then got behind
15:54
the wheel of the Alexis SUV
15:56
and used it to push the Nissan
15:59
into the water. which led to the
16:01
smashed headlight on the Lexus and
16:03
the smashed tail light on the
16:05
Nissan. Though someone picked up most
16:07
pieces of the headlight, they did
16:09
miss a few small ones in
16:12
the dark, and these were found
16:14
at the scene by the investigators.
16:16
Muhammad Tuba and Hamid now had
16:18
an unanticipated issue. One of their
16:20
cars was in the canal, and
16:22
the other had damaged to the
16:25
front of it. To throw the
16:27
police off, they decided that Hamid
16:29
had to bring the Lexus back
16:31
to Montreal, stage a wreck in
16:33
a parking lot there, and then
16:35
come back to Kingston in the
16:37
undamaged minivan, which is what he
16:40
did. The police ended up seizing
16:42
the Lexus SUV, and they found
16:44
that the broken headlight pieces at
16:46
the canal matched the SUV. They
16:48
also found green paint transfer on
16:50
the Lexus that was consistent with
16:52
the paint on a garbage drum.
16:55
near the canal and both of
16:57
these things, put that Lexus at
16:59
the crime scene. Everything we just
17:01
went over took an entire investigation
17:03
to unravel, but they had enough
17:05
of these pieces by mid-July 2009
17:07
that a judge signed off on
17:10
a wiretap on the family's home
17:12
and their minivan. To get access
17:14
to the vehicle on July 18th,
17:16
the investigators had to Bahamid and
17:18
Muhammad come to Kingston for an
17:20
update on the investigation. They had
17:23
to drive the minivan there because
17:25
that was the only vehicle they
17:27
had left, so the police installed
17:29
the bugs while the family was
17:31
inside the station. And before they
17:33
headed back to Montreal in the
17:35
now bugged minivan, the investigators planted
17:38
a little seed. They bluffed and
17:40
told the family that they learned
17:42
there was a security camera at
17:44
the canal, and they were going
17:46
over the footage. They did this
17:48
to stir up a conversation between
17:50
the family and it worked. From
17:53
the wiretap in the minivan, they
17:55
heard Mohammed say that the police
17:57
were... lying about the camera. And
17:59
Tuba said she knew there wasn't
18:01
one there because she had, quote,
18:03
looked around and didn't see any.
18:05
But if there was, all three
18:08
of them would have been recorded.
18:10
Haman chimed in that it was
18:12
so dark that night that there
18:14
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18:16
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the police kept listening in on
19:04
conversations that happened in the home
19:06
and in the minivan and these
19:08
were a rough listen or for
19:10
most of us, a tough read
19:12
because they did have to be
19:14
translated. The worst of it was
19:16
Muhammad absolutely ranting about his daughters
19:19
and talking about what a great
19:21
father he had been only to
19:23
have been betrayed by them. A
19:25
lot of it was directed at
19:27
Zainab. He called her a horror.
19:29
He said she dishonored the family
19:31
and Islam. And of all four
19:33
victims, he said that if they
19:36
came back to life a hundred
19:38
times and he had a cleaver
19:40
in his hand, he would cut
19:42
them into pieces. He even said
19:44
something about the devil shitting on
19:46
their graves. Tuba was not entirely
19:48
silent in all of this. She
19:51
made a comment on July 20th
19:53
that Zainab was already done, but
19:55
she wished Sahar and Giti were
19:57
not. But Muhammad reassured her that
19:59
there was quote no other way
20:01
and he called them treacherous. He
20:03
said when he saw pictures of
20:06
the girls and in this context
20:08
he meant pictures of them with
20:10
boyfriends and wearing bikinis and such.
20:12
He said he was consoled. Quote,
20:14
I say to myself you did
20:16
well. Would they come back to
20:18
life a hundred times for you
20:21
to do the same again? end
20:23
quote. In another statement in the
20:25
middle of another rant, Muhammad said
20:27
quote. I am telling you now,
20:29
and I was telling you before,
20:31
that whoever plays with my honor,
20:33
my words are the same. There
20:36
is no value of life without
20:38
honor." End quote. Concerned for the
20:40
welfare of the remaining minor children
20:42
in the home at this point,
20:44
they were removed the following day
20:46
July 21st. The authorities believed that
20:48
Muhammad Shafia was a specific type
20:51
of family annihilator, and this is
20:53
something that I have done quite
20:55
a bit of reading on over
20:57
the years. For a period of
20:59
time, mostly during the COVID lockdowns
21:01
when I had nowhere else to
21:03
be, I was doing live streams
21:05
where I talked about true crime.
21:08
And I did a couple videos
21:10
on the different types of family
21:12
annihilators because the psychology of family
21:14
annihilators interests me. We say, why
21:16
do people do this? And the
21:18
truth is the answer varies depending
21:20
on the circumstances, but most of
21:23
them fall into a few categories.
21:25
In a UK study that looked
21:27
at 71 family annihilation cases from
21:29
1990 until 2012, they found that
21:31
half of them were motivated by
21:33
a family breakdown, like a divorce.
21:35
Twelve percent were motivated by financial
21:38
stress, and 38 percent were motivated
21:40
by, quote, mercy. And not mercy
21:42
in the way we think of
21:44
it, but in the sense that
21:46
the killer justified their actions by
21:48
believing it was saving the victim
21:50
or the family from something. Honor
21:53
killings motivated to save the family,
21:55
the victim, or even just the
21:57
parent, from shame would fall under
21:59
this category. I am using the
22:01
honor killings because these are much
22:03
more about shame and control. However,
22:05
some are proposing that we change
22:08
the name of these types
22:10
of killings because calling them
22:12
honor killings is not clear
22:15
communication. Some propose that we
22:17
call these shame killings or
22:19
shame-based killings rather than honor
22:21
killings because these are much
22:24
more about shame and control
22:26
than they are about actual
22:28
honor. Honor or shame killings are
22:31
often associated with Muslim communities,
22:33
even though Islam does not
22:35
support the death penalty for
22:38
honor-related misconduct. And honor-related killings
22:40
have been documented in multiple religions,
22:43
and sometimes they don't have a
22:45
religious backing at all, but rather
22:47
a personal one. So it's really
22:50
important to remember that as far
22:52
as victimology and risk assessment goes,
22:54
we have to view this as
22:56
more cultural than religious than religious.
22:59
According to Sharzad Mohab,
23:01
the co-author of the 2004
23:03
book, Violence in the Name of
23:05
Honor, the root of these
23:07
murders is the control
23:09
of women in patriarchal societies.
23:12
So applying that to this case,
23:14
if Muhammad could not control
23:16
his own daughters and their
23:19
behaviors and their dress, how
23:21
could he be trusted to do
23:23
anything else in the world?
23:25
to be a businessman, to
23:27
be a respected community leader,
23:29
his daughter's behaviors, and
23:31
his inability to control
23:33
those reflected poorly on
23:36
him within this mindset. So
23:38
that brings up the question,
23:40
why Rona? Well, there are
23:42
indications that she wanted to leave
23:44
Muhammad and was only staying for
23:47
the children and because of the
23:49
issues with her visa. But that
23:51
was starting to wear thin as a
23:53
motivation for her to stay. The children
23:56
were getting older and they didn't need
23:58
her as much. Plus they would be...
24:00
leaving the home themselves within the
24:02
next few years. She talked to
24:04
a niece who lived in the
24:06
US about maybe she could meet
24:08
at the border and Rona could
24:10
basically sneak into the United States.
24:12
She really was actively looking for
24:14
ways to leave at the time
24:16
of her murder. And maybe Muhammad
24:19
knew that. Maybe she even told
24:21
him she wanted a divorce. Or
24:23
maybe he knew that Rona's loyalty
24:25
was not to him, but to
24:27
the children. and she would never,
24:29
ever stay quiet in the aftermath
24:31
of their deaths. Maybe she was
24:33
just too dangerous to leave alive.
24:35
It is hard to know the
24:37
individual motivation of why Rona was
24:39
included in this, and it is
24:42
possible that murder was more about
24:44
getting rid of a witness than
24:46
it was about honor or shame.
24:48
And I think this plays into
24:50
something else I learned about honor
24:52
killings. They're not all family annihilations
24:54
as we know. Oftentimes only one
24:56
person is killed. But something that
24:58
is interesting is that even when
25:00
there is only one victim, there
25:02
is often family complicity in the
25:05
crime. A single daughter may be
25:07
killed, but it's common for multiple
25:09
family members to know that the
25:11
murder is going to happen and
25:13
participate in it in some way,
25:15
even if they're not there for
25:17
the actual event. They will help
25:19
set it up or cover it
25:21
up. Muhammad had to know that
25:23
Rona would not go along with
25:25
that, but according to the police,
25:28
others would. They believed that Muhammad
25:30
was the driving force behind this,
25:32
but Tuba and Hamid were just
25:34
as complicit in the planning, execution,
25:36
and cover-up of a quadruple murder.
25:38
And believing this, that left the
25:40
three surviving minor children with zero
25:42
safe adults in that house, and
25:44
that is why they were removed.
25:46
It was also beneficial to get
25:48
them out of the house when
25:51
the authorities knew an arrest was
25:53
coming very... soon. If these three
25:55
people would kill four others because
25:57
a couple of them were quote-unquote
25:59
rebellious, what would their end game
26:01
be if they were cornered? So
26:03
on July 22, the day after
26:05
the kids were taken into foster
26:07
care and were safely out of
26:09
the home, Muhammad, Tuba, and Hamid
26:11
were all arrested without incident. As
26:14
the authorities looked into the family
26:16
while they were building this court
26:18
case, all of the child services
26:20
calls came up. They learned that
26:22
Rona wasn't a cousin, but rather
26:24
a wife, and family members told
26:26
the police about the threats Muhammad
26:28
had made again zenap. Not just
26:30
Tuba's brother, but also Rona's sister
26:32
as well. Rona had confided in
26:34
her that she heard Muhammad say
26:37
to Tuba and Hamid that he
26:39
was going to prepare documents. Go
26:41
to Afghanistan to sell some property
26:43
and then kill Zaneb. Either Tuber
26:45
or Hamid asked, what about the
26:47
other one? And Rona thought the
26:49
other one was referring to her.
26:51
Her sister said Rona was truly
26:53
frightened and she tried to calm
26:55
her down thinking that this was
26:58
not a real threat that they
27:00
were safe. They were in Canada.
27:02
But now that Zaneb and Rona
27:04
and Sahar and Gidi were all
27:06
dead... It definitely seems that there
27:08
was something to Rona's fear. With
27:10
the three in custody, they were
27:12
all interviewed again and initially stuck
27:14
to the original story, but that
27:16
wouldn't last. Tuba was the first
27:18
to change her story admitting that
27:21
she was there when the car
27:23
went into the water, but she
27:25
was very vague on what she
27:27
witnessed. She said, Mohammed was near
27:29
the Nissan while it was parked
27:31
alongside the canal, but she and
27:33
Hamid were across the road at
27:35
that time. They heard a splash
27:37
and they ran over, but Tuba
27:39
said she fainted and woke up
27:41
in the motel with no idea
27:44
what happened and initially had assumed
27:46
that Muhammad would have seen the
27:48
others. Tuba would later recant this
27:50
version saying that she only said
27:52
it after hours of interrogation and
27:54
she had gotten worn down, but
27:56
this would not be the last
27:58
time she changed her story, but
28:00
we'll get into that later because
28:02
it comes down the road a
28:04
bit. Muhammad stuck to his story
28:07
the whole time through, but we
28:09
know in these interviews he outright
28:11
lied to the police. He told
28:13
them that he wanted the person
28:15
who killed his family punished and
28:17
that his kids were pure and
28:19
sinless. But we have all these
28:21
recordings of him saying the complete
28:23
opposite, using words like treacherous, to
28:25
describe them. He also lied when
28:27
they told him that they knew
28:30
Rona was his wife. He said
28:32
she wasn't, she was just a
28:34
cousin. When they showed Muhammad, a
28:36
wedding photo that a family member
28:38
had sent to them, he still
28:40
lied and said it wasn't taken
28:42
at a wedding. It must have
28:44
been her birthday or something. And
28:46
you guys, this is a photo
28:48
of the two of them. Dressed
28:50
to the nine standing in front
28:53
of a three-tier cake as Rona
28:55
is slicing it. It was clearly
28:57
a wedding photo. So we have
28:59
Tuba with a changing story. We
29:01
have Muhammad telling obvious lies. And
29:03
when it came to Hamid, he
29:05
initially said very little just that
29:07
he didn't know what happened and
29:09
he wanted to go back to
29:11
his cell. But then, months later,
29:13
he spoke with a private investigator
29:16
and his story changed. How this
29:18
investigator started working on the case
29:20
is a little weird. He was
29:22
initially acting as a translator for
29:24
Muhammad and his defense attorneys, and
29:26
it seems like he came to
29:28
believe Muhammad was innocent, so he
29:30
was trying to do some investigative
29:32
work on his own to prove
29:34
it. He interviewed Hamid in jail
29:36
and gave the recording of this
29:39
interview to the police since it
29:41
exonerated Muhammad. Hamid's news story was
29:43
that Zainab Sahar and Gidi decided
29:45
to go joyride in the Nissan
29:47
after their parents were asleep and
29:49
Rona went with them because she
29:51
needed to buy a phone card.
29:53
Hamid around the same time was
29:55
heading back to Montreal and he
29:57
realized what they were doing. was
30:00
worried because Zainab didn't have a
30:02
license and as far as he
30:04
knew she didn't really know how to
30:06
drive very well. So he decided to
30:08
follow them to make sure they were okay.
30:10
Hamid followed them to a gas station
30:12
where Rona could have bought a phone
30:14
card but the station was closed. So
30:17
Zainab tried to turn around and
30:19
somehow ended up on Kingston Mills
30:22
Road where Hamid continued to follow
30:24
them. He said he rear-ended the Nissan
30:26
at some point and they stopped. But
30:28
that part of the road was
30:31
too narrow for them to just
30:33
turn around. So Zena Abbott drove
30:35
forward while Hamid was outside of
30:37
the Lexus picking up the broken
30:39
plastic. While he was doing that,
30:41
he heard a big splash. Not sure
30:43
what was going on, he ran to the
30:45
edge of the water. Hamid said he
30:47
saw the headlights of the car
30:49
underwater, and he dropped the headlight
30:51
pieces that were in his hand and
30:54
ran back to the SUV. So this
30:56
is his explanation for how those pieces
30:58
got to where they were found. He
31:00
said he tried to alert for help by
31:03
honking, but no one responded. So he
31:05
grabbed a rope and he threw it
31:07
into the water so that the women
31:09
would have something to grab onto and
31:11
he could pull them up out of
31:13
the canal. According to Hamid, no
31:16
one grabbed onto the rope and
31:18
he waited about eight minutes before
31:20
he decided to just leave and
31:22
drive back to Montreal. As for
31:24
why he didn't call the police or
31:27
his parents or anyone else, he said
31:29
he was scared that the police would
31:31
blame him for what happened and he
31:33
was scared of his parents' reaction. He
31:36
then staged hitting the pole in Montreal,
31:38
even leaving some of the headlight pieces
31:40
that he still had with him in
31:42
the parking lot to make it look
31:45
legit. Hamid admitted that he had lied
31:47
to the police and did not tell
31:49
them everything he knew before this point,
31:51
but he was adamant about two things
31:53
now. One, his parents had no knowledge
31:55
of what happened, and two, no one caused
31:57
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20. honest,
42:02
he was liberal when it came
42:04
to women's rights, that sort of
42:07
thing. But I'm not sure that
42:09
it countered the family members who
42:11
testified against him. Tuba's uncle,
42:13
who called Muhammad to tell him
42:15
about Zainab and Amar's annulled
42:18
marriage, testified that on that
42:20
call, Muhammad called Zainab a
42:22
whore, he called her dirty, and said
42:24
she was a curse to him. He said
42:26
if he was there, he would have killed
42:28
her. Tuba's brother flew to
42:30
Montreal from Sweden to testify
42:32
about Muhammad threatening to drown
42:35
Zainab and Rona's sister came
42:37
from France to testify about
42:39
Rona overhearing talk about killing
42:41
Zainab and quote the other one.
42:43
All three of these witnesses
42:45
experienced threats due to their
42:48
cooperation with the investigation and
42:50
Tuba's brother and uncle were
42:52
ostracized by the family and
42:54
some friends even for testifying
42:56
against her. The fallout from this
42:58
was very hard on them, and
43:01
it's a reminder why it
43:03
can be so complicated for
43:05
family members to come
43:07
forward with information they
43:09
have. Thankfully, these three did,
43:11
though of course the defense painted
43:13
them as liars. And then
43:16
in closing statements, the defense
43:18
attorneys said there were just
43:20
too many questions of what
43:22
actually happened here. And it was
43:24
most likely that it did happen the way
43:27
Hamid said it did. The explanation
43:29
that made the most sense was that
43:31
Zainab had been driving. Muhammad and
43:33
Tuba were completely innocent and Hamid
43:36
was guilty of being, quote, stupid,
43:38
morally blameworthy, but other than that,
43:40
he is not responsible for the
43:42
girl's deaths, end quote. The defense
43:44
attorneys also dismantled the idea of
43:47
this being an honor killing, saying
43:49
that the family wasn't even that
43:51
conservative or religious. and the accusations
43:54
of abuse made by the
43:56
victims, they made them up. Rather
43:58
than being oppressed... Zainab was
44:00
actually spoiled and she was just
44:03
not used to not getting her
44:05
away so she ran away from
44:07
her parents when they opposed her
44:10
marriage. And Sahar wanted more freedom
44:12
and used accusations of abuse to
44:14
manipulate the situation. But the crown
44:17
went over all of the evidence
44:19
in their long closing statement to
44:22
say otherwise. It wasn't just that
44:24
they had physical evidence that the
44:26
Lexus pushed the Nissan into the
44:29
water. It was the evidence given
44:31
through witnesses, Rona's journal, the computer
44:33
searches, and the wiretaps all put
44:36
together that proved what happened here.
44:38
Their theory was that Muhammad decided
44:40
to kill his daughters and Rona,
44:43
with Hamid helping him find locations,
44:45
and Tuba keeping the four women
44:47
where they needed to be and
44:50
feeling safe, so they wouldn't run
44:52
away or try to get help.
44:54
All three knew what was going
44:57
to happen that day, and they
44:59
were equally culpable. Over the course
45:01
of two days, the jury deliberated
45:04
for 15 hours going through each
45:06
bit of evidence. At the end
45:08
of their deliberations, they found 59-year-old
45:11
Muhammad, 42-year-old Tuba, and 21-year-old Ahmed
45:13
guilty of first-degree murder. And they
45:15
were sentenced to life sentences with
45:18
parole eligibility after 25 years. They
45:20
appealed, of course, and a big
45:22
part of the appeals was the
45:25
evidence presented about honor killings. claiming
45:27
that that prejudiced the jury. The
45:29
crown argued that their expert wasn't
45:32
actually the one who brought up
45:34
on her killings, the police did
45:36
not bring it up, the prosecutor
45:39
didn't bring it up. The person
45:41
who was speaking about honor and
45:43
dishonor, that was Muhammad Shafia on
45:46
those wiretaps. These appeals were denied
45:48
largely because the court found that
45:51
even if they excluded the honor
45:53
killing evidence, there was still enough
45:55
evidence for a conviction. Hamid also
45:58
launched a appeal of his own
46:00
that argued he had some new
46:02
evidence. He said... that the crown
46:05
had his age wrong. They believed
46:07
he was 18 at the time
46:09
of the murders, but he was
46:12
actually 17, having been born not
46:14
in 1990, but rather 1991, and
46:16
he should have been tried as
46:19
a youthful offender. This gets a
46:21
little convoluted, but basically, Hamid and
46:23
Muhammad claimed that they only learned
46:26
of this error when a friend
46:28
of Muhammad sent paperwork to Canada.
46:30
so that they could settle some
46:33
property issues in Afghanistan. Mohammed said
46:35
that when they had to flee
46:37
Afghanistan initially, they left without those
46:40
documents and someone was holding on
46:42
to them for them. It wasn't
46:44
until Mohammed got them after the
46:47
convictions that he noticed that Hamid's
46:49
birth year was wrong on all
46:51
of the current documentation like his
46:54
passport and his residency application and
46:56
all his visa stuff. It's said
46:58
December 31st, 1990, but he was
47:01
really born on December 31st, 1991.
47:03
Now there are some issues with
47:05
this. Sahar was born on October
47:08
22nd, 1991. It's impossible for her
47:10
to, one, be younger than him,
47:13
but be born before him, and
47:15
two, for Tuba to have two
47:17
kids two months apart. So Hamid
47:20
had to then argue that Sahar's
47:22
birth year was also off by
47:24
a year. And then the other
47:27
kids after that, they had to
47:29
do the same thing with them
47:31
because the kids came in such
47:34
quick succession. These new birth years
47:36
were what they presented as Muhammad
47:38
moved the family around the world
47:41
with the various visas and residency
47:43
applications. So there was a mistake
47:45
on the paperwork for four or
47:48
five of his children that changed
47:50
their ages and Muhammad supposedly didn't
47:52
notice. But then he went along
47:55
with the new birth years ever
47:57
since, even though he didn't know
47:59
they had altered the birth years.
48:02
It literally makes no sense. And
48:04
surprise, surprise, the... The examination of
48:06
some of the documents proving Hamid
48:09
was only 17 called into question
48:11
their authenticity. Like one of them
48:13
was supposedly issued in 1995 and
48:16
had a rubber stamp on it
48:18
from the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan.
48:20
But the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan
48:23
didn't exist until 2004. If this
48:25
document was from the mid-90s, it
48:27
would have said the Islamic State
48:30
of Afghanistan. Obviously, this appeal didn't
48:32
succeed. And at that point, in
48:34
2016, they had exhausted all of
48:37
their appeals. In 2017, Tuba filed
48:39
for divorce from Muhammad, but he
48:42
refused to sign any papers. In
48:44
2019, Tuba applied for a temporary
48:46
absence from prison to visit her
48:49
mother's grave. At the hearing for
48:51
this request, we get yet another
48:53
version of events. This one was
48:56
more of a confession. Tuba claimed
48:58
she was there when the killings
49:00
happened, but she wasn't involved. She
49:03
said that they did pull over
49:05
near the canal, and she waited
49:07
in the Nissan while her husband
49:10
and son drove off to find
49:12
a motel. When they came back,
49:14
Muhammad told her to get into
49:17
the SUV, and she climbed into
49:19
the back seat. Then Muhammad drove
49:21
the SUV right into the Nissan,
49:24
and she asked him, what was
49:26
he doing? What was he doing?
49:28
He said he was going to
49:31
kill them. According to this new
49:33
story, Tuba tried to stop him
49:35
by grabbing him from behind and
49:38
begging him not to do it.
49:40
But she was in the back
49:42
seat and there wasn't much she
49:45
could do. Muhammad then hit the
49:47
Nissan a second time and it
49:49
went into the water. Afterwards, Hamid
49:52
calmly held her hand and it
49:54
seemed pretty obvious he knew what
49:56
was going to happen. Tuba expressed
49:59
remorse for what had happened that
50:01
she couldn't help her children. and
50:04
that she had lied about what
50:06
had happened for 10 years at
50:08
that point. She told them that
50:11
she was more free in prison
50:13
than she had been during her
50:15
marriage to Muhammad, which she had
50:18
entered into at only 17 years
50:20
old. Citing a low risk of
50:22
re-offense and compassion, the board granted
50:25
Tuba a five-hour furlough so that
50:27
she could visit her mother's grave
50:29
and this decision was very unpopular.
50:32
It was noted in a number
50:34
of places, including the Toronto Sun,
50:36
that she didn't ask to visit
50:39
the graves of her three dead
50:41
children or the woman who helped
50:43
her raise them. And though the
50:46
decision to give her this five-hour
50:48
furlough cited her remorse, many doubt
50:50
she meant any of it. And
50:53
should Tuba or Muhammad get full
50:55
parole, which is not expected any
50:57
earlier than 2034? They will not
51:00
remain in Canada at all. Their
51:02
permanent residency was revoked and they
51:04
will be deported immediately. It's not
51:07
clear if or when Hamid's residency
51:09
was revoked, but it is expected
51:11
that if he is paroled, he
51:14
will also be deported. This case
51:16
caused a lot of conversation about
51:18
honor killings, which then led to
51:21
conversations about if some of the
51:23
more sensational coverage was really just
51:25
veiled Islamophobia. And I hope I
51:28
presented the facts in a way
51:30
that does not contribute to that,
51:33
because I do think exploring cases
51:35
should be more productive than fear-mongering,
51:37
and there are some things that
51:40
came from this case that are
51:42
positives. For instance, Montreal Social Services,
51:44
who had multiple touch points with
51:47
the Shefia family prior to the
51:49
murders, started adding risk assessment for
51:51
honor killings. And any time we
51:54
are including cultural context in our
51:56
attempts to protect children, we're doing
51:58
a good thing. And the community
52:01
in Kingston raised money to leave
52:03
a... a legacy in honor of
52:05
Rona Zenab, Sahar, and Gidi. It
52:08
was so successful that Right to
52:10
Learn Afghanistan took on the funds
52:12
as a permanent scholarship program to
52:15
provide financial assistance for educational expenses
52:17
for Afghan women and girls who
52:19
are pursuing a higher education. While
52:22
this scholarship was a gift when
52:24
it started, this work is more
52:26
important than ever. In August of
52:29
2021, the Taliban returned to power
52:31
and on September 17th, they banned
52:33
girls from being educated after the
52:36
age of 12. UNICEF reports that
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as of April 2025, so right
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now, around 2.2 million girls have
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been denied education in Afghanistan since
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the ban was put into place.
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And that number will only grow,
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the longer it is in effect.
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I am going to leave a
52:55
link to the Right to Learn
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Afghanistan website in the show notes,
52:59
because while the Sheffield Fund is
53:02
why I found out about their
53:04
program and I am talking about
53:06
it, the research into education in
53:09
Afghanistan for girls since the takeover
53:11
of the Taliban shows me what
53:13
important work they're doing and should
53:16
you have the ability to do
53:18
so? Join me in making a
53:20
donation to Right to Learn Afghanistan.
53:23
Again, it'll be in the show
53:25
notes.
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