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magic of the upcoming solar eclipse, a simple
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way to reduce the amount of microplastics in
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your drinking water, and the
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connection between self control and the
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perception of power. Without further
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ado, let's satisfy some curiosity. On
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April 8, 2024, millions
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of people in North America will be in the
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direct path of a rare total solar eclipse, and
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it's going to be phenomenal. Okay, I'm
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totally here for it. When I say here, I
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mean there, because I'm actually traveling to it. But
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I do have a question. All of
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the headlines talk about the rarity of this event,
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but didn't we just have one
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a few years ago? Okay,
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yeah, but the last one to make its way across
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the United States came through in 2017, that
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cut from Oregon to the southeast, and it
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was pretty spectacular. And for what it's
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worth, a total solar eclipse happens on Earth around
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every 18 months or so on average. But after
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April 8, this year, our next chance to see
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one in the US will be in 2044. Whoa,
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20 years. Okay, that is pretty
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rare. Yeah, and not only is it rare,
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the path of the total eclipse is only about 100 miles
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wide. So unless those
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100 or so miles encapsulate a major
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metropolitan area, most Americans will go
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their entire lives without seeing one. The
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one in 2044, for example, will only
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touch Montana and parts of the Dakotas,
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not exactly the most populated region of the
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country. Okay, but as I
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understand it, the one coming on April 8th is
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different, right? Totally. It's
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going to etch its way through several
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major population centers, all the way from
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Mazatlan, Mexico through San Antonio, Austin, Dallas,
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and Fort Worth, Texas, and then on
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through Indianapolis, Cleveland, Buffalo, and Rochester, and
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Syracuse, New York, and then into Canada.
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So a ton of people will see this one, and that's
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one of the reasons researchers are so excited. They
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suddenly have millions of potential lab assistants to help
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them with all kinds of experiments. Oh,
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wow. Okay, yeah, I guess I didn't really
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think of that. But so much of science
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is just, you know, observational. And if you
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have millions more observers, you have millions
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of possible data points. Exactly.
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There are a few really cool examples of
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this. So in one study, researchers wanted to
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know how the eclipse affected animal sounds. Wait,
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how are those
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two things connected? Okay, so it follows
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an older study and lots of observations that
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some nocturnal animals actually become active as soon
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as the moon photobombs the sun and the
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world darkens. Birds become
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quiet, crickets begin chirping. It's kind of
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like a temporary nighttime. The
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eclipse soundscape project will use specialized audio
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recorders to document that shift. And park
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rangers at Hot Springs National Park in
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Arkansas are setting up recorders to try
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and capture the sounds of endangered bats.
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I can honestly say I've never thought
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about how an eclipse changes the way
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the world sounds. It actually changes
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the world in a lot of ways. Like when
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the sun suddenly blinks off, the temperature can plummet
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by 10 degrees or so. And
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another study is capitalizing on that with an
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app called the Globe Observer app, which will
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let citizen scientists record temperature and cloud data.
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Sounds and temperature. I
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always thought of a slower eclipse at the time to study, you know, like space
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or the sun. Sure,
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there's the SunSketcher app, which will let
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users take pictures of a phenomenon called
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Bailey's beads, which is basically light from
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the sun shining through the valley. in the moon,
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and that will help scientists determine the shape and
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extent of the sun's outer edge. And
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then there's citizen Kate, where observers will take
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images of the sun's corona in polarized light
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to help study the flow of the solar
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wind. Now that seems like the kind of experiments
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I'm used to hearing about. Absolutely. But
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this year is actually a little different, not just
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because of the amount of people in the path,
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but because the sun will be at or near
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the peak of its most active period, called the
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solar maximum. That's the absolute height of
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its 11-year cycle. There's even a chance you could
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see a solar flare. So if
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people aren't in the path, how can
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they see this thing? And how can they take part
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in the science? Well, okay, we're going
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to link some of these apps and projects in the
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description. But if you want to see it, you kind
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of have to get yourself into the path. Some
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say this could be one of the biggest mass travel
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events in the country. So if you haven't booked your
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hotel yet, it might be too
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late. But the two to four minute phenomenon will
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be worth the effort. And very
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confusing to people who don't know is happening.
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Plastics are everywhere. They're turning
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up in fish, in beach
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sand, in produce, even in
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our own bodies in the
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form of microplastics and nanoplastics.
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They're literally everywhere. Plastics are
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covering our entire world. And as I understand
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it, they're just
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all but impossible to completely remove,
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right? Very, very difficult. And some
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research suggests that they might actually
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accumulate in our bodies and could
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affect our gut microbiomes. And that's
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a recipe for all kinds of unknown
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chaos. And that is what got researchers
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at Guangzhou University Medical and Jinan University
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in China thinking, what if there was
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a way to reduce microplastic exposure where
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we spend most of our time in
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our homes? Sure, I mean, that
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would be great. But for it to really move the
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dial, it would have to be cheap and easy. And
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something that just about any household could do
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to get rid of microplastics. Well,
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is boiling water easy enough? Yeah.
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Well, that is what they did. So boiling
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water is a practice that millions of homes already have.
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used to clean harmful germs and bacteria,
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even some pollutants, out of the drinking
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water before they drink it. So these
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researchers wanted to see if simply boiling
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water had any effect on the amount
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of plastics in the water. Okay,
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I'm trying to get my head around
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this. I mean, boiling germs kills them.
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Pollutants maybe just evaporate, but what could
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possibly happen to plastic to make it
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disappear? Yeah, I had the
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same question. So the team used fluorescent
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polystyrene particles to simulate nanoplastics and microplastics
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in tap water, and they heated
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it all up and watched what happened. They
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found that there was a pretty
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significant interaction between the fluorescent polystyrene
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and lime scale. Lime
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scale, that's like what causes hard water
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stains, right? Yes. If you have
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hard water coursing through your plumbing, you've seen lime
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scale building up inside your tea kettle, on your
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shower, on your faucets all over. And
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this study found that the microplastics tend
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to get trapped inside those minerals found
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in hard water. So it's
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a kind of plastic sequestration? Yeah,
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simply put, yeah. The process was found to trap
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up to 84% of the particles in hard water
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and up to 90% in very hard water. Even
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soft water samples showed a reduction of up to
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25%. So this turns
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out to be a really simple way to get those microplastics
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out of your water. And that
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is a huge, huge deal because the
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global distribution of microplastics, it's
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not exactly even. Often
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the people with the biggest problem have the
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Often when we think of wildly successful
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CEOs or corporate raiders or anyone with
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power and stature, we think of the
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maverick. The person who is willing
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to take wild chances and throw caution to the
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wind. They'll risk it all to gain power and
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wealth. There are a couple of billionaires
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I can think of right now who just exude
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the kind of impulsivity you're kind
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of talking about. It's like controlled
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chaos that somehow leads them to
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succeed. Right, but a new study
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is challenging that image, or at least
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it's challenging our perception of that image.
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So it's saying that power comes from what,
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self-control? I mean sort of, let
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me explain. The research was conducted by
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researchers at the University of California San
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Diego Rady School of Management. They wanted
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to explore perceptions of power based
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on self-control. Perceptions of power,
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not actual power. I'm
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actually glad you picked up on that because that is
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a big distinction. They undertook seven
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experiments with around 3,500 participants.
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They wanted to know if someone's level
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of self-control had anything to do with
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how much power they were perceived to
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have. Got it. So you know if you put
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a hot donut in front of someone and they don't
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eat it, do you find them
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to be more or less powerful?
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Exactly, and interestingly enough,
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some of the experiments were actually a lot like this.
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So say you have a colleague who you know
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is trying to stay fit. If they are able
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to turn down a large dessert, the study found
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that you probably perceive them as being more suited
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for high-power roles. Okay, that's an interesting
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connection. So you know what if
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they really, really want the dessert? Like you
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can see their hand quivering, ready to snatch
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it up, but then they decide not to
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in the end. Okay, it doesn't actually
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matter if they deliberate on the action
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or if they just act without thinking.
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Self-control equals perceived power. I
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mean as always there's a twist. I love the
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twists. Uh-huh. The perceived power comes
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when self-control is aligned with goals I'm
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not sure I know what you mean So one
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of the experiments exposed the participants to two
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different people One of them made
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a huge goal to read 200 pages in a week The
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other one made a goal of reading only 50 pages in
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a week Okay, so you'd think that
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the people who made the huge goal were seen
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as you know, maybe being more ambitious And
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ambition is something powerful people have right not
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so fast The participants in the study
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who were told that the person who pledged to
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read 50 pages actually ended reading 100 pages But
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the one who pledged to read 200 pages also
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only read 100 pages. Okay, so they both
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read the same number of pages Yes
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But the study participants viewed the ones who
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failed to meet the bigger goals as being
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less powerful than the overachievers with
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smaller goal But they
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both rather say of amount and those in the
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study were less interested in having those who didn't meet
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their goal It's the group leader in later tasks
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Wow, so we perceive people as being
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powerful if they exert self-control in
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alignment with their goals That's
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right. And that's a big deal because
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in offices and classrooms across the country Managers
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and teachers alike have gotten into the
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habit of encouraging workers and students to
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create stretch goals But according to
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the study not achieving a lofty goal could leave
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you worse off than an overachieving a small goal
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I mean at least in the
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eyes of your peers that is one
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of those unintended consequences to
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an otherwise noble idea Yeah,
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you want people to think you're powerful set
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a realistic goal and practice self-control to attain
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it Let's recap what we learned
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today to wrap up on April 8th
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a rare total solar eclipse will cast a
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shadow over the eastern US offering
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both a breathtaking spectacle and
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a unique scientific opportunity for
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citizen scientists and Researchers to
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explore the mysterious effects of sudden darkness
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on Earth's atmosphere wildlife and even the
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sounds around us Boiling
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tap water has been found to be a simple
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yet effective strategy to trap up to 90% of
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harmful microplastics in hard water lime scale.
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New research reveals that self-control
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demonstrated through goal-aligned behavior actually
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enhances an individual's perceived power
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and suitability for leadership. Curiosity
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