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Homegrown startup beauty brands have
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been on a role in
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India. Scores and scores of
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new-age skin care brands have
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cropped up since the pandemic,
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and all of them hop
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on the science of skin
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care. And their whole appeal
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is transparency. Transparency about ingredients
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that go into each of
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their products. And among all
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of them, minimalist is the
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one that really stands out.
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It is an active ingredients-based-based
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skin care company. So it
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sells things like near cyanamide
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for brightening, retinol for fine
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lines, vitamin C, glycolic acid,
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salic acid, and so on
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and so forth. It launched
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around the end of 2020
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and within a span of
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eight months it built a
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1,000 craw rupee business. And
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what's even more surprising is
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that the brand has remained
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in the green, meaning profitable,
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from the very first month
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itself. For years legacy brands
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like Pregacy Brands like Ponce
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and L'Oreal and H-U-L have
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been selling products with similar
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ingredients. The only difference is
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that they either did not
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launch them in India or
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they kept the names of
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the ingredients hidden away in
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tiny fonts at the back
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of the bottles. It was
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minimalist that came around and
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broke that mold. And now
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seeing the success of brands
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like Minimalist, legacy brands are
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rethinking their strategy. Case in
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point. Hindustan Unilever. The company
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has been wanting to turn
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its beauty and well-being portfolio
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into a high-growth premium category
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for a while now. And
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the acquisition of minimalist is
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a big step in that
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direction. But how did a
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brand-like minimalist manage to do
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something that a giant-like H-U-L
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could not? Welcome to Debray,
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a business podcast from the
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Ken. I'm your host Nakda
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Sharma and I don't chase
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the new cycle. Instead. of
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the week, my colleague Rahil
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Philipos and I
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will come
2:12
to you
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with one
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business story
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that is
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worth understanding
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and worth your
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time. It is one
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of minimalist star products. Even
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co-founder Mojit Yadav uses it
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for his skin care routine.
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So what exactly is near
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cyanamide? It is actually a form
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of vitamin B3 and it is
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present in the food that you
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eat in your greens and your
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eggs, fish, etc. etc. When
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used on skin it reduces
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inflammation and it also helps
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with brightening. But guess what?
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This anamide is the hero
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ingredient in your pawns light
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moisturizer and also in OLE's
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total effects face moisturizer. The difference
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is that minimalist names the
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chemical up front. In fact,
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minimalist product is named
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after the chemical itself.
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So is this minimalist success
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formula? My colleague, Nuhab
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Vére, asked Anish Shet, the
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co-founder of Dr. Shet, a
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domicutical skin care company. He
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said it is nothing new really. Minimalist
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is a high quality brand that comes
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at a low price, which is what
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Indians love. So yes, it has hit the
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bullseye. It came in at the right time,
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at the right place and with the
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right kind of messaging. This was a
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time when skincare was all
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about natural ingredients. And that
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is because no beauty in
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personal care brand was ready for
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a conversation about chemicals that
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they were using. Plus a
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big myth that chemicals are bad
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got busted. We spoke about
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this extensively in our first
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special Friday episode. and I
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will link it to the show
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notes of this one. So when
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Minimalis launched its products during the
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pandemic, the market was ready for
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it. Noa spoke to the co-founder
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Mohat Yadav and he told her
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and I'm quoting, initially they felt
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that it would take a lot
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of time to create awareness and
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educate people about actives in skin
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care. But there were a large
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number of customers already. So the
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zero to one journey was not
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very challenging. The company also has
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the advantage of controlling prices of
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most of its products in the
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300 to 700 rupees range because
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it manufactures them in-house. Now this
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is a huge advantage for its
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aquiro H-U-L. But wait, why couldn't
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a laurial or a pawns or
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even H-U-L for that matter do
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the same thing? Prianga Garval who
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was a brand manager for Laurial
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explained why. It is because Laurial
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imports its products. She also pointed
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out how minimalist success also has
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a lot to do with the
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rigorous quality checks that the company
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conducts as compared to other brands.
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In fact, Mohit Yadav told again
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that minimalist works with a 25-member
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research and development team. These are
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people with prior experience from L'Oreal
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and Estelado. They invest two to
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five percent of their business in
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R&D. and a company has one
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manufacturing facility in Jaipur and is
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currently developing a second one. Stay
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tuned for more on what legacy
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brands are up to. Before we
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get into what legacy brands have
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been doing so far, let us
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get one thing out of the
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way. What does this acquisition mean?
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Number one, it means that active
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ingredients based skin care is not
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just a fad. It is here
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to stay. It is here to
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stay. Number two transparency on part
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of brands can go a long
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way especially when it comes to
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skin care And number three,
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this is a clear sign that
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2025 could bring even more consolidation
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in the consumer space. These like
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this show that growing consumer brands
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with a solid user base
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and decent revenue are definitely
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worth investing in. Basically, it's
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a great thing for the industry
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in general. Now coming to what
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legacy brands have been up to.
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Let's take H-U-L's fair and
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lovely, for example. It introduced
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it to the Indian market as
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early as 1975. And near Sinemide
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was actually the product's main
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ingredient. But you know what the
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packaging said? Advanced multivitiments.
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They did not want to name the
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chemicals because back then people thought
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all chemicals are bad. But even
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now, when things have changed, fair
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and lovely, which thankfully is called
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glow and lovely now, still has
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the words advanced multivitamin
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printed on it. not the
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active ingredients. But the shifting
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consumer preference from natural ingredients
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to active ones like retinol
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and vitamin C and the
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success that brands like minimalists
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have seen in India have
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prompted legacy players to adapt
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to market trends. I mean, age well
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took it so seriously that it
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has actually gone an acquired minimalist.
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Others have resorted to changing the
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packaging of their products like
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ponds. Even L'Oreal, the world's largest
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beauty and cosmetics company, doubled
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down on the Indian market
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with the launch of its
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dermatological beauty brand called Servi
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in November 2023. Meanwhile, it
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also started selling the French
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brand La Roche Poiset in
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India. It also relaunched its
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luxury skincare arm lungcom in
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2022 because of the demand
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for premium skincare brands. Neutrogena
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which is owned by Johnson
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and Johnson upgraded its popular
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moisturizer to add hyaloronic acid in
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2023. Ollie from Procton Gamble
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also introduced products like
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regenerative is Retinal 24 Night
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Cream in its premium range. In
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fact, even H-U-L has been
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on it for a while.
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It launched Acne Squad, an
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active ingredient-based product in October
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2022 and also Novology, a
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pharmaceutical product in May 2023. But
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being a legacy brand has
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its own disadvantages. Someone from
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H-U-L who did not want to be
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named told my colleague Noha that the
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company is so big and so bureaucratic
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in nature that instead of taking a
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speedy approach like other D2C brands, they
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always end up being late to the
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party. So what can they do? Other legacy
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brands can take notes from
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what India's digital first beauty company,
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Honeasa Consumer, has done with its
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more than a billion dollars worth
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Mama Earth. Instead of diluting Mama
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Earth, which has always marketed its
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products as being toxin-free and
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natural, Honeysa built brands
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such as Acologica and Dermakot
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and acquired Dr. Shetz in
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May 2022. This was located
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to specific skin concerns
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and target this demographic.
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The company also leveraged the
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Mama Earth distribution network
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to penetrate these brands offline.
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In the six months
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to September 2023, nearly
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13% of Honeysa's revenue
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came from its new
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products like Salic acid
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serum and face wash,
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among others. from the
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active-based ingredients skincare category.
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Minimalist, meanwhile, needed to
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scale and grow more
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categories. And now, it
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shouldn't be so hard
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to pull off for
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the brand thanks to
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HLL's massive distribution
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network and packing.
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