Return to Grace #6 Dragon

Return to Grace #6 Dragon

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hero's sword holds the key the

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damsel shows the door. The dragon

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then reveals the lair where there

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was no lair before. See,

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so I just forever on this thing. Adam's

1:41

giving us a riddle.

1:43

And, um, my brain has

1:45

shut down. Okay, can I look

1:47

in the back of the telescope? I

1:50

look while you're covering it,

1:52

I look in the other end. You're

1:54

definitely covering the light. Okay,

1:56

well then, can I try

1:58

again? Full twill. We're

2:01

gonna have to do this

2:03

at night the like wait fuck

2:05

we need the sun There

2:07

is the moon We

2:10

need the dark. Yeah

2:13

It's not that we're missing

2:15

a sun or a

2:17

moon It needs to be nighttime

2:19

we can't do this to

2:21

it's not time tibble. Yes

2:24

bring me every blanket in the house Hey,

2:28

I'm gonna come up there. Yeah, I've not

2:30

been allowed up there before. Oh, yeah, you should

2:32

come The

2:35

desk was was like that when I

2:37

came in the room You've

2:39

never been in here. It's true, maybe.

2:41

Actually, you might have been in here.

2:43

Okay, I get up there. How

2:45

holy Avenger does that holy look?

2:50

It is burning with a

2:52

white light softly I look at

2:54

the hole in the table Looked toward

2:56

my friend. I say nothing It

3:00

needs to be dark I'm

3:03

getting tibbles getting some blankets

3:07

I Might have

3:09

expressed some displeasure at the

3:11

desk But that's growth

3:14

Well, I think it is growth Fuck it.

3:16

I have a go at the desk With

3:21

my beautiful new spear you

3:23

drive Cinder into one of the

3:25

two halves which erupts into

3:27

flames the flames begin to catch

3:29

the Second half of the

3:31

desk and you need to open

3:33

windows as it is completely

3:35

engulfed Probably get them

3:37

out of the house. I would

3:39

say I Kick

3:43

the desks outside The window

3:45

you will take fire damage

3:47

it is Tiffany like they

3:49

erupted in the flames almost

3:51

immediately Is it the danger

3:53

to the things in the

3:55

room? No, most of the

3:57

room is made out of metal. Okay, but then You

4:00

just did own some windows to

4:02

stop the smoke out. Did I

4:04

feel good, yeah? It did. It

4:06

did. Hang on. This isn't... This

4:08

is just going to burn out,

4:10

right? Yeah. It's going to burn

4:13

itself out. So... I am so

4:15

fascinated. If I cast Darkness... The

4:18

Darkness spell... It's magical Darkness. Yeah. You

4:20

won't be able to see through it either.

4:23

But can the lights go on it?

4:25

Also the minute we do it, I'll disappear.

4:29

Well, you'll disappear because Tiffany won't

4:31

be able to see peer it.

4:34

Yeah, great. But also, especially me.

4:36

You'll disappear extra. Yes. I

4:38

love the amount of effort

4:40

that is going into avoiding waiting

4:42

seven hours. Tierbolt

4:45

reaches the top of I mean, look,

4:47

we could wait seven hours. I just,

4:49

I don't know. I feel Get it

4:51

done. I'm with you. I get bored.

4:53

Well, not that. I don't want my

4:55

friends to go through too much trauma.

4:57

Yeah, fair. Sleeping in the room for

4:59

a bit or walking around the house.

5:01

It's just nighttime. Hey, hey, hey, hey,

5:03

hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,

5:05

hey. Go back into town and get

5:07

a drink, find fucking flask of wine

5:09

and come back. I like the blanket

5:12

idea. This is a good idea. It

5:14

was clever thinking. Okay. Anyway, Tierbolt comes

5:16

back up with the first load of

5:18

blankets. After a few goes up and

5:20

down, Harry L, the coachman, he starts

5:22

helping out. But Thudu and Harry F

5:24

can't help because neither of them can

5:26

do the stairs. Yep. Just before sundown. Four

5:32

of you managed to get all the blankets

5:34

up and covering over the dome. Do you

5:36

want to do this or do you want

5:39

to go out in a garden? I'll go

5:41

out in the garden. You sure? You just

5:43

didn't get to spend a lot of time

5:45

in this room. And I've... We've been here

5:47

for seven hours. Fuck.

5:49

Sorry, we've been here for six and

5:51

a half hours. Six hours and 47

5:53

minutes. I'll go go up here. All

5:55

right. I head back out to the

5:57

garden. All right. You standing there as

5:59

the sunset... What

6:02

would you like to do, Pop?

6:04

I look through the telescope. You

6:06

see those markings. You can see

6:08

the little hole in the blankets

6:10

that you've made to allow the

6:12

two telescopes to view each other.

6:14

You maybe see Tiffany, who, I

6:17

don't know, weighs back. I assume

6:19

also we've gone through. We've

6:23

chatted about stuff. Now you don't

6:25

put them all in at once. Why

6:27

would I do that? You just

6:29

don't... Because you might not

6:31

know how telescopes work, because no one ever fucking

6:33

you. Telescopes? Yeah, you don't know how they

6:35

work. No

6:38

one even taught him how to say

6:40

telescopes, dude. That's like the

6:42

opposite of, you know... Because maybe one of

6:44

your fucking brothers had a telescope and he

6:46

never let you fucking look at it. That's

6:48

really nice. You know what's

6:51

underground for archaeology. This is

6:53

way above what your scope is.

6:55

So your scope is so pop.

6:57

You are looking through the telescope.

6:59

That's what you see. Can

7:02

I ask, why are you looking through the

7:04

telescope? You know that's not how it

7:06

works. What do you mean? So

7:09

you look through the telescope. You're

7:11

down at the bottom, right? You look

7:13

through the telescope. You see the

7:15

markings. You see the little hole. You

7:17

see Tiffany, she waves. What

7:19

do you do? I do what she did.

7:22

What do you mean? I moved

7:25

away from the telescope to

7:27

let the light in. Oh, what

7:29

I'd like to do is How

7:37

I moved it then you could

7:40

see this. Sorry, I just

7:42

have a hypothetical question. I'm not

7:44

going to sit up straight. I

7:46

have a hypothetical question. Do

7:48

I need to be

7:51

out of need go in the garden? No,

7:53

why do you need to be in

7:55

the garden? So when we were up

7:57

there, the lights were already doing their

7:59

thing. You just need,

8:01

you literally just

8:03

needed it to be dark. So

8:06

when he left, with all the blankets

8:08

and everything, it was already working.

8:11

Yeah. And

8:13

you didn't say, no it's not because he's in the way.

8:16

You didn't say shit when

8:18

I left. I use a

8:20

message. Come back,

8:22

I think it's working. Oh,

8:25

so one of us doesn't

8:27

need to be out here. Yeah. I don't

8:29

reckon. Yeah. Yeah. I think

8:31

you're right. Cool. Just

8:35

like, I don't

8:37

know how dark it is outside or how well it

8:40

is, but you just see the silhouette of a sword hitting

8:42

some sunflowers. And

8:44

then they come back inside. There's

8:46

maybe like a flash as the

8:48

holy avenger cuts through them. It

8:51

like burns with a bright light

8:53

for a second. I

8:55

use message, growth. Well,

8:57

not anymore. dead. Except

9:00

you have to yell. Stretching

9:06

exhausting... No. I don't yell it. I

9:08

wait. It's

9:10

like five minutes and I'm

9:13

like, no, they're dead. What?

9:15

Anyway. Okay.

9:17

So Tiffany, the past 10

9:19

minutes, I want to say you've

9:21

had seven in, right? Yeah.

9:24

So you can see that there

9:26

is a splayed out on

9:28

the blankets. It is a constellation.

9:31

Oh You can just take the blankets down. I

9:34

just realized. So I should be

9:36

writing this down. We burnt the chest.

9:38

There's no paper left. No, no.

9:40

Timmott has a piece of paper. Timmott,

9:42

you saved a piece of paper

9:44

from the day. Okay. No, you had

9:46

the piece of paper and passed.

9:48

So you need to wait till he

9:50

gets back to write it down.

9:53

Okay. So splayed across the blankets.

9:55

The first constellation

9:58

is for... Hang

10:00

on, it would be so funny

10:02

if neither of you knew this.

10:04

I have navigators tools, if that

10:06

helps. It might.

10:08

Do you have proficiency with the

10:10

navigators tools? Yes, I do. Okay, good,

10:12

that is useful. All right, Tiffany,

10:14

you don't recognize this constellation at first.

10:17

Pop, you know the constellation. It's the

10:19

Seder and Pipes. As in the little

10:21

deer man. Yeah, little deer man and

10:23

Pipes. That's what other people like to

10:26

call it, yeah. I

10:28

know what a Seder is. The Pipes,

10:30

the little panigas. The

10:32

really, it looks like if you

10:34

stretch out a harmonica. Or

10:36

if you're watching an episode of

10:38

Any Nature Documentary and

10:40

David Ambrose and Ratinga, and we go

10:42

somewhere that's a bit jungle. Yes, it

10:44

exists. Or also mountain. Oh, yeah. The

10:50

representation is actually quite pretty. The

10:53

lens puts the picture, the actual,

10:55

what it's supposed to look like.

10:57

But then the markings mix with

10:59

it to show you where the

11:01

stars are in the actual picture.

11:03

It's quite pretty. This is quite

11:05

nice. Seder and Pipes. The what?

11:07

Seder and Pipes. Do you all, I mean,

11:10

I'm going to guess the answer to this question

11:12

is no, but it's weird that he

11:14

taught you some stuff and other stuff, didn't talk to

11:16

you about the constellations. Well, what use would

11:18

it add, Beth? I

11:20

don't know, war. Yeah, maybe. I don't

11:22

think you were really picturing me going out

11:25

to fight. And if I was going

11:27

out to fight, you didn't mind if I

11:29

came back. Yeah, exactly. Don't find your

11:31

way home. Jesus Christ. The Seder and Pipes

11:33

is a constellation in the skies. This

11:35

one, it's like, could I roughly know where

11:37

in the sky it is in real

11:39

life? Yeah, you can find your way in

11:41

sky. She would have said where in

11:43

a blanket. No, we've got an opening. No,

11:46

I just go over to the one of the big windows and

11:48

just rip the blanket down. It's

11:50

about there. It's dark enough now.

11:52

At this point, it's probably dark

11:54

enough that it works without the

11:56

blankets. What's Tybalt's internal monologue? Just

11:58

curious. This is the

12:00

most excitement he's had because

12:03

we're not we're not pricks, we're

12:05

just idiots. It's

12:07

a delightful change to to

12:09

so grace senior. Yeah, we're excited

12:11

to do anything. So yeah,

12:13

so there's a little horn fella

12:15

and there's his pipes. Another

12:18

name, horn fella and pipes. Yeah,

12:21

I'm a horn fella. Yeah, all

12:23

right. Yeah, he would have like,

12:25

I don't know, say to your

12:27

horn. No, it would be in

12:29

this depiction. Yeah. In this depiction, it's

12:31

curved horns. Yeah. These horns are yours. He

12:33

does. You know, and the pipes. A

12:38

perfect rendition of pipes. Yeah. you.

12:40

Next one? Yeah, I will switch

12:42

it over to four. Four? All

12:44

right. I take one out carefully. I put

12:46

four in carefully. You both recognize

12:48

this one. It's

12:53

delicious refreshing drink. Yeah. If you

12:55

drink too fast from McDonald's, you do

12:58

a big burp. And you can't

13:00

keep it in. I've seen the challenges.

13:02

This one is obviously the same

13:04

style. The person who made the first

13:06

one has obviously also made this

13:09

one. And once again, it is the

13:11

stars being laid underneath a depiction

13:13

of the sprite themselves. The

13:15

sprite, I assume, looks like a fairy

13:18

creature. Yeah. It's a little like

13:20

a pixie. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

13:22

Yeah. A child with wings, essentially.

13:24

There may be in this depiction, they're

13:26

sitting on a flower, which

13:28

buckles a little bit underneath their weight. Oh,

13:30

thank you. I swap it out for 12. Both

13:33

of you. I actually, maybe Tiffany, I

13:36

don't know about you, Pop. Tiffany, I

13:38

feel like you would be delighted by

13:40

this one. It's the leaping dog. So

13:42

am I. I know what it is,

13:44

but I'm not necessarily delighted by it.

13:46

Yeah, I feel like this one just

13:48

has a lot of this one. There's

13:50

obviously a lot of joy to this

13:52

one. It's a dog leaping over a

13:54

log and under or behind the log,

13:56

obviously, as if they were trying to

13:59

be hidden is A fox and

14:01

it looks like they're playing. Oh,

14:03

yeah, that's cute. That's good.

14:05

That's nice Don't log. I

14:08

like the dog log. It's an alright

14:10

one. It's not my favorite Which one's your favorite? Can

14:12

I just make up a constellation and it'd be

14:14

real? I have a list, but okay I

14:19

like the big man to It's

14:22

just a big man to ray can't say

14:24

it from everywhere, but it's real nice. What's

14:26

it doing? It's just you know, it's it's

14:28

been a big man to you'll have to

14:30

show me sometime. Yeah, I'm is it here.

14:33

Can I see it? Yeah,

14:35

you spot it. Yeah, it's right

14:37

there There's his tail. There's his big

14:39

wings and those little Flobby

14:41

things funny about man to raise you look at

14:44

their bellies and it looks like they've got eyes

14:46

there But the eyes are actually on the top. What

14:48

are the things on their bellies? Grabbers

14:50

For brave and lean Okay, I

14:52

thought I thought that out for the

14:54

last one which is one I

14:56

don't need to roll both of you

14:58

know this It's the most prominent

15:00

star in the sky. It's the mid

15:02

-star It is a single star in

15:04

the dead center of the night

15:06

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15:09

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15:11

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Okay, it is quite dark. So

16:54

Tiffany has dark vision. How much

16:56

time between chult and now has

16:58

there been? Oh, I would say

17:01

maybe three, two weeks, a couple

17:03

of weeks maybe. Okay. Have I

17:05

explained to you where I am?

17:07

It goes through to three weeks?

17:09

Maybe. Have you just worked it

17:11

out? Oh, I know

17:13

that when it goes dark, you vanish.

17:15

So I know the correlation. Yeah, okay,

17:17

okay. I'm not shocked every time it happens

17:20

now. What's really funny is, so Tibaut Wright

17:22

doesn't have dark vision, I assume. Uh, halflings

17:24

I don't think do. No. He's not using

17:26

it right now anyway. He could still see

17:28

me in the moonlight. He doesn't need to

17:30

rely on dark vision to do that. The

17:32

idea that he can talk to me and

17:34

you're like, who the fuck? You actually haven't

17:37

left the building yet. No, no, no, no.

17:39

So was about to say you get to

17:41

the back entrance to the building.

17:43

And then Thudu in

17:45

her wheelchair calls out,

17:47

My lady, I would

17:49

like to accompany you

17:51

on where you're going.

17:53

I worry though, she

17:55

looks over her shoulder

17:57

at Tibaut and Harry. who,

18:00

Harry F and Harry L, but Harry

18:02

F is the one who calls out,

18:04

just fucking say it! She

18:08

waves a hand. My

18:10

lady, I fear we are

18:13

soon to find ourselves

18:15

in a place where adventurers

18:17

should only tread. I

18:19

think the staff should

18:21

remain behind. Oh, of course.

18:23

You're very welcome. I don't want to

18:25

put you in any danger. No, I

18:28

will be coming with. Oh, cool. She's

18:30

an adventurer. You take the cat,

18:32

she says, gingerly picking up pinches

18:34

and handing it over to Harry

18:37

L. Harry L cradles the cat

18:39

who is tiny in his massive

18:41

orcish hands, cradles the cat like

18:43

it were an egg about to

18:45

break. Okay, so with Thudu, who

18:47

also has dark vision, hilariously also

18:49

can't see you, the three of

18:51

you wander into the garden. Thudu,

18:54

and then head towards the hedge

18:56

maze, obviously, Thudu

18:58

looks around, obviously realizes she

19:00

can't see you, Pop. Where

19:02

is he? I'm right here. By

19:04

the gods. It's a

19:06

thing I can do. Whatever,

19:09

push me. She lets go of the

19:11

wheels, leans back and expects you to

19:13

push her. Perfect. I was just going

19:15

to be holding onto one of his

19:17

belts, hopefully without him knowing, but this

19:19

is much easier. Pop would know if

19:21

it wouldn't say anything. I'll

19:24

push Thudu. He starts getting darker to

19:26

start reaching for a belt. Neither one

19:28

of us says shit. She

19:31

has a little backpack that's strapped to

19:33

the back of her wheelchair. She grabs that,

19:35

pulls it onto her lap and then

19:37

rummages through it until she pulls out

19:39

a very pretty looking war hammer.

19:42

It is a war hammer, a

19:44

weapon of war, but it looks

19:46

like it's ceramic. It's

19:48

a beautiful, oh, you wouldn't be able to

19:50

see the color in dark vision. It looks ceramic

19:52

and you can tell that it has a

19:54

floral pattern on it, but that's all that you

19:56

can make out right now. God, I hope

19:58

this war hammer survives it. sounds gorgeous. Can't

20:00

wait to see you in the day.

20:03

Tiffany, I'm not gonna make you roll.

20:05

You've done this a million times. You know

20:07

the path. You have, I wanna say

20:09

maybe 15 minutes of quiet reflection in the

20:11

maze as you're guiding your way through. Like

20:13

I said, it's a big maze. It

20:15

takes about 15 minutes to navigate and you

20:17

know the way. It's upsetting the whole time

20:19

for me. I need everyone to know. Have

20:21

you ever like listened to a song or

20:23

smelled a smell or something from a time

20:25

in your life that you didn't realize until

20:28

you smelled that smell or heard that song

20:30

that you were actually pretty sad for? Oh.

20:32

Yes. Yes. Like,

20:35

Yeah! Oh yeah. So I start following

20:37

the maze and turning the corners and realizing that

20:39

all those moments were in my memory. I'm

20:41

like, yeah, I was trying really, really hard to

20:43

solve the maze. I was focusing really hard.

20:45

God, I was not very happy. I was so

20:47

sad. I was so sad. I was so

20:50

stressed. I was alone. I didn't know what lonely

20:52

felt like because I didn't know what it

20:54

didn't feel like yet. On

20:56

your way through, you find a little

20:58

tuft of fuzz stuck to one

21:00

of the... A

21:04

little tuft of fuzz stuck to the

21:06

hedge maze itself. And despite the fact

21:08

that it is black and white, you

21:10

are in dark vision mode. You can't

21:12

see the color. Tiffany, you know exactly

21:14

what color that little tuft is. I've

21:16

never made that noise in my life.

21:18

Have you stopped? Um,

21:21

um, yeah.

21:23

Yeah. You were at

21:25

holes. Yeah. You just went... We

21:27

were doing real well now. How

21:29

do you know how to find your way around here? I

21:34

used to play here. Gahoy!

21:36

I keep walking. I leave the

21:38

fuzz there because I don't want

21:40

to get rid of the only

21:42

childhood memory I have. It's

21:45

not like he painted pictures of

21:47

me. Oh, my God.

21:49

Jesus Christ. Sorry.

21:51

You reach the center

21:54

of the maze?

21:56

Harrowing. The familiar side

21:58

of the dra... dragon

22:00

in black and white rears before

22:02

you. Pop, as I said previously,

22:04

the statue is genuinely imposing. When

22:06

you turn the corner and see

22:08

it for the first time, a

22:10

part of you thinks, like, are

22:12

some reptilian, I guess it's all

22:15

reptilian brain, some back part of

22:17

your brain. It's a solonian. Yeah,

22:19

yeah. Some ancient part of your

22:21

brain that is long ago been

22:23

pushed into your unconscious. Some part

22:25

of your brain is like predator,

22:27

predator, predator, predator. The dragon is

22:29

rearing almost as if it's about to

22:31

breathe flames, but it is made of stone.

22:33

It will never and could never breathe

22:35

flames. Wink. Wink. The

22:38

plinth it is on is far

22:40

larger than the hero or damsel's

22:42

one. And as I said, has

22:44

those gorgeous constellations all around it.

22:46

These ones are just the stars,

22:48

not the representation as well. Well,

22:51

he cared about this one a lot more than

22:53

the other two. You get the,

22:55

actually, you would know this with a careful eye.

22:57

This statue is older than the other two. It's

23:00

no, sorry. The plinth is

23:02

older than the statue and

23:04

the other two combined. And

23:06

the statue is older than

23:08

the other two. No, sorry.

23:10

The plinth is very old.

23:13

It's made out of a

23:15

different stone and is clearly

23:17

predates everything else. Oh, this

23:19

is really fucking old. Like

23:21

I'm talking, this is a different

23:24

stonework. You can't get this to

23:26

degradation. Like this is years older

23:28

than either statue. I don't think we can lift

23:30

it. I don't think it's going to lift.

23:32

I think it might move if

23:34

we punch the constellations. Oh,

23:37

I thought you wanted to put it in a museum. Oh,

23:41

well, I mean, it'd be nice, but

23:43

you'd have to do it in pieces and it'd

23:45

be difficult. You might take

23:47

a chunk. Just like,

23:49

I look for the

23:52

manta constellation. He's

23:56

a loaves. He's so mad.

23:59

He's. He's. Yeah, you sure about that

24:01

one, buddy? Yeah, I am. Okay.

24:03

Yeah. Last chance. I am sure. I think

24:05

you know I either got two or

24:07

99. I think you got 99. Yeah, it's

24:09

there. Um,

24:14

I just sort of like try to measure with my hands

24:17

how hard it would be to cut that chunk out and

24:19

take it with me to a museum. I saw it pressing

24:21

on the satyr pipes. You

24:23

press on the, you find the satyr, satyr

24:25

pipes, you press on it and it neatly clicks

24:28

in and remains clicked

24:30

in. Gorgeous. Let's go sprite.

24:33

Same thing happens. Let's go leaping

24:35

dog. Same thing happens. And

24:37

the mid star. When you

24:39

input the last one, the

24:42

entire statue begins slowly

24:44

pivoting, plinth included, begins slowly

24:46

pivoting on the spot.

24:48

And then you notice that

24:51

it also slowly begins

24:53

to sink into the earth

24:55

until finally underneath the

24:57

statue, a set of spiral

25:00

stairs, ancient stone stairs

25:02

slowly reveal themselves leading into,

25:04

despite the fact you

25:06

have dark vision, something

25:09

about this darkness feels

25:11

heavier and more

25:13

oppressive. Something vile is beneath

25:15

you. Have you ever seen

25:17

the steps to go up the Ling

25:19

Tower of Pisa? Yeah. Imagine a set

25:21

of stone steps with a divot in

25:23

them where someone would have stepped that

25:25

is, it's just stepping on them over

25:27

and over and over again. many times

25:30

they've worn down. It's worn. Yeah. There's

25:32

literally almost, it looks like a channel

25:34

that water would funnel down, but it's

25:36

just worn. You know how sometimes specific

25:38

types of old buildings, the

25:40

spaces are just smaller?

25:42

Yeah. Yeah. That's the, that

25:44

is these stairs. Two people,

25:46

one person would need to almost

25:48

be turned sideways to walk

25:50

down it. It's very tight. Jesus.

25:53

It's also stairs. Yeah. I

25:55

look at Thudu. She

25:57

gives a big sigh. Dude. You're

25:59

gonna have to carry I

26:01

didn't want to be

26:04

rude so I'm glad you

26:06

suggested it it would have

26:08

been impolite so funny for

26:10

me she takes her backpack

26:12

and then neatly inverts it

26:14

and as soon as it

26:16

is inverted you realize it

26:18

doubles as a papoose this

26:20

is not the first time

26:22

she has been worn doing

26:25

that and putting her in

26:27

there does it just no

26:29

it's not front it's behind

26:31

it's a a backpack yeah

26:33

it's a backpack it's like

26:35

the thing that Kronk carries

26:37

Esmerini's Yoda and Luke that's

26:39

not dissimilar yeah like she's

26:41

floating deep can I turn that

26:43

off just out of curiosity I

26:45

was just about to check that

26:47

because actually I think Thudu becomes

26:49

invisible as well no

26:52

I'd say you can turn that off

26:54

if you want absolutely I don't know

26:56

how but maybe just by willing it's

26:58

literally a magical ability yeah I think

27:00

you could just turn it on or

27:02

off I am just like what if

27:04

Thudu goes on your back and goes invisible

27:06

and that's what happens yeah then you get

27:08

to pick me up when we both go

27:10

invisible sometimes well that's true I mean I could

27:12

turn it on and off so you can

27:15

make the choice you could pick Tiffany up

27:17

and then you both go invisible together yeah

27:19

just do to become invisible as well yeah

27:21

I would say so I put her on

27:23

I just oh oh right because of the

27:25

hang on this probably a

27:27

bit easier there's just

27:29

like my name and then

27:31

I'm visible

27:33

are you about to do a

27:35

pop yep no I was about

27:37

to go Mandarin I just saw

27:39

you reaching you know how people

27:41

do that I think I can

27:43

do that well so you've been able

27:45

to do that for turn what

27:47

make it go away recent development

27:50

I'm trying some

27:52

it suits you yeah I don't know if it will

27:55

take but we'll see the three

27:57

of you head down the steps together

28:00

Traveling down, you notice almost

28:02

immediately the temperature just

28:04

tanks. It goes from a,

28:06

I would say, a

28:08

like a moderate spring

28:10

night to maybe like a

28:13

moderate autumn night to full -on

28:15

winter. Okay. It is cold and

28:17

you begin, when you breathe,

28:19

you begin seeing little puffs of

28:21

steam that your breath is

28:23

creating. I mean, I don't want

28:25

to be a, you know, a

28:28

voice of doom, but this

28:30

place is maybe one of

28:32

the most cursed places I've

28:34

ever walked into. I can't

28:36

believe it was under my house the whole

28:38

time. Can't you? Your

28:42

father kept many secrets. I

28:44

used to play here. You couldn't have known.

28:46

How could you have? You were but

28:49

a child and he an absent

28:51

father. Father's a stretch.

28:54

She doesn't say anything, but you

28:56

just feel, you feel her nodding

28:58

in agreement. If I may, I'm

29:00

going to like the way she

29:02

raises her hammer. We could have

29:04

done this at any point. I

29:07

didn't need to reappear. I disappear

29:09

again. She raises her hammer and

29:11

cries out Lux. Her hammer nearly

29:13

blinds the two of you with

29:15

how bright it becomes. You can

29:17

see it definitely looks ceramic. It

29:19

is a blue and silver pattern. Does

29:22

it look like, does it look

29:24

like the fine China that Nans

29:27

have? You have like the Japanese

29:29

like figures and temples on them.

29:31

It's got big fine China. Is

29:35

that a floral pattern, a quite

29:37

nice floral pattern, like on the where

29:39

the edges of the hammer are.

29:41

It's a very squareish hammer. Does

29:43

it look like it smashed stuff before? Um,

29:48

hard to say, looks like Thudu keeps it quite

29:50

well maintained. You can see, actually,

29:52

you know what you, in fact, yeah, you

29:54

could tell there's a sheen of polish on

29:56

it. If it has been used to smash

29:58

skulls, Thudu cleaned it afterwards. Well,

30:00

she's got time. It looks beautiful.

30:04

God, I hope it stays intact. God,

30:06

I hope it's not ceramic. Or

30:08

if it is, it's the kind of

30:10

magic ceramic that makes it more

30:12

powerful than steel. The stairs eventually bottom

30:14

out and you stand. It doesn't

30:16

feel like the light is as bright

30:18

as it once was. You

30:20

can see, you feel like you

30:22

can almost literally watch as the

30:25

edges of the light begin to

30:27

creep in towards you. And this

30:29

is as you're going down. By

30:31

the time you get to the

30:33

bottom, it feels, the light feels

30:35

very small indeed. The darkness here

30:38

is oppressive. A weight, but not

30:40

a welcome one. A almost suffocating

30:42

weight. Does it have texture? Like

30:45

if I can, not

30:47

like running your hands, but can

30:49

you almost run your hands through

30:51

this darkness? Is it thick? You

30:53

viscous. You reach out and you

30:55

make the horrific discovery that you

30:57

literally can run your hands through

30:59

it. You pull your hands back

31:02

and some of the darkness clings

31:04

to your fingers like smoke. Right.

31:06

Maybe don't touch it. Does

31:09

Holy Avenger do anything if I

31:11

hold it near it? Holy Avenger, if

31:13

you draw it out on approaching

31:15

the darkness, Holy Avenger vibrates

31:17

a little bit like it's maybe

31:19

anticipation, maybe fear.

31:23

Stuff scares my soul.

31:27

Fucking hell. Yeah,

31:32

I think this one's going to be nasty, horns. I

31:34

reckon so. I draw Cinder. As

31:36

you're drawing your spear and I

31:38

cannot describe to you the base

31:41

low level horror of what

31:43

you are looking at

31:46

despite the mundanity of it.

31:48

It is a stone

31:50

walls, rough stone walls, very

31:52

obviously worked, made by

31:54

human hands or equivalent hands,

31:56

but very or equivalent. Very,

32:01

very like rough.

32:03

There's no effort really been

32:05

put into making this look

32:07

nice. The floor here is

32:10

just dirt. You are standing

32:12

in dirt. You can smell

32:14

dirt. And there is a little

32:16

in the wall ahead of you,

32:18

a little archway. Just beyond, you

32:20

see only darkness. The light cannot

32:22

penetrate that far in. The darkness

32:24

feels like the surroundings. Your surroundings

32:26

are so tight and small, and

32:29

you would only imagine that the

32:31

next space is going to be

32:33

similarly tight and small, but the

32:35

darkness gives you the illusion that

32:37

it could stretch for miles. It's

32:39

impossible to see. And the expectation,

32:42

the unknown of what that darkness

32:44

hides feels malevolent. When you draw

32:46

cinder, Tiffany, the spear immediately,

32:48

without you trying to do anything,

32:50

it slowly drifts and points

32:52

its way through that hole, through

32:54

that worked arch in the

32:56

stone. Okay, so a fun game

32:58

that I play when I'm

33:00

at the beach sometimes and I

33:02

have goggles or a snorkel

33:04

on. And it's a fun game.

33:06

You go out into the

33:08

ocean and you just look. Just

33:10

look out into the ocean

33:12

as far as you can for

33:14

as long as you can without getting the

33:16

heebie -jeebies. It does not take very long

33:18

because it's just infinite. So much water.

33:20

blue and it just goes forever and there

33:22

could be anything in it. And is

33:24

that what it is, Adam? Is that the

33:26

feeling we're getting? Yeah. Yeah, good. I

33:28

hate this. I hate you. And cinder doesn't

33:30

do anything to light that at all. No, cinder

33:33

doesn't light it. It

33:35

feels almost like cinder

33:37

is urging you forwards,

33:39

but there's a determined

33:41

urging forward, but also

33:43

like a cinder. I

33:46

don't know how to describe it

33:48

because cinder's not really communicating

33:50

with you other than the very

33:52

fundamental nature of its being.

33:54

But it feels like cinder

33:56

has come home to a

33:59

place that is - familiar to

34:01

for I sit with this,

34:03

this for a moment, because

34:05

if this, if the spear

34:07

is feeling like it wants to

34:09

go forward, my first thought is, oh,

34:11

it's dad's spear. Like dad was really

34:13

brave. He, he'd go in, he'd do

34:15

this, but I'm really scared. And then

34:18

I think, well, no, every time I've

34:20

tried to be brave, it's to try

34:22

and impress dad to be like him,

34:24

but I am like him and he's

34:26

tried to keep me not brave. He's

34:28

tried to frighten me my whole life

34:30

and I am as brave as him

34:32

because I am him and I step

34:34

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