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if you didn't have a choice? And then

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we'd take a look at the bizarre

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story of a young woman involved in

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a car accident. And while

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she's in the

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hospital undergoing observation,

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her husband calls

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the hospital to

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let them know

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of pre-existing injuries.

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But little does anyone know

1:04

that this caller is out of

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this war. Today on Dead Rabbit

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Radio. I'm your host Jason Garbiner.

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I'm having a great day. I

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hope you guys are having a

1:15

great day too. Hope you guys

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are having tons of fun. Doing

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whatever you're doing. We got a

1:21

lot of stuff to cover today.

1:23

So first off, running is a

1:25

dead rapid radio command. Everyone get

1:28

on your feet and give it

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up for Tori. Whoo, yeah, wee.

1:32

Tori's running on in the dead

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rapid radio command. Super excited to

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be here and we're excited to have you. Tori

1:38

came to see me live to see me live.

1:41

Tori's come out to a lot of the conventions

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and watched a lot of presentations. And to be

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fair, not just to see me. There's a bunch

1:47

of other stuff going on around. There's a lot

1:49

of other great speakers and vendors and all that.

1:52

I know it's not just me. But Tori, your

1:54

support's always appreciated. It's always nice to see you.

1:56

Thanks for coming out. And that is why you

1:58

are going to be our captain. in our pilot

2:00

this episode if you guys can't support

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the show financially or can't come out

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to the live shows that's fine too

2:07

it really really is just help spread

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the word about dead rabbit radio that

2:11

helps out so much tell your friends

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help the show grow tory let's go

2:27

ahead red rabbit radio command Tori, why

2:29

don't you drive us all the way

2:31

out too? A young woman's bedroom.

2:33

Nice leisurely drive into

2:35

this woman's bedroom. The

2:38

car crashes through the wall,

2:40

but because we're mere observers

2:42

in this story, nobody notices.

2:44

Sometimes we don't have severe

2:46

whiplash. We're like, come on,

2:48

Tori, you couldn't hit the

2:50

brakes. She goes, she told

2:52

me to drive into the

2:54

room. We're about to meet this

2:56

young woman. We don't have a

2:58

real name, let's call her Monica.

3:00

And this story takes place

3:03

in the 2010s. So, you know,

3:05

Monica is taking a nap.

3:07

And she says, listen, you know, life

3:09

is good. Life is great, actually.

3:12

I'm happy. Everything seems to

3:14

be going my way. Just

3:16

kind of have a good attitude

3:18

about life. Monica is taking

3:20

a nap when she wakes

3:22

up and her entire body

3:24

is frozen. She's fully awake,

3:27

but she's suffering from sleep

3:29

paralysis. Monica has had this

3:31

happen before. She's had sleep

3:33

paralysis before. So it's not

3:35

super alarming. I mean, that

3:38

would be kind of scary to be

3:40

wide awake, but not able to move

3:42

your body. I don't think I've ever

3:44

had sleep paralysis, but it is

3:47

something that happens. Monica's had

3:49

it happen before. Not the most

3:51

alarming thing in this moment,

3:53

but... She's wide awake,

3:55

her body is

3:58

frozen. She sees... Her

4:00

closet door.

4:03

Open just

4:06

a crack. She's

4:09

looking at

4:11

the closet

4:14

door. And out

4:16

of the

4:19

closet door

4:21

crack comes

4:23

a billowing

4:26

black smoke.

4:29

Getting closer and closer

4:31

to Monica who's frozen

4:33

in bed It slides across

4:35

the floor and when it

4:37

reaches her bed it begins

4:39

to Move up It's almost

4:41

taking some sort of shape

4:44

now the smoke is going We've

4:46

not making the sound effects,

4:48

but how else am I gonna do

4:51

right? It's smoke. I have to do

4:53

sound effect the smoke is now

4:55

I wish I hadn't used the

4:58

word billowing earlier because I

5:00

can't use it again now.

5:02

I'm kind of stuck. The

5:04

smoke begins to move upwards,

5:07

almost taking like this

5:09

shape, towering over her bed.

5:11

It then leans down

5:13

and looks directly into

5:15

Monica's face and says in

5:18

a low inhuman voice is

5:20

how Monica described it. The

5:22

smoke says... Can I stay

5:24

with you for a while?

5:26

Nomonek is completely

5:29

terrified by this. Super

5:32

spooky. Any part of

5:34

it. Clositor opening

5:36

by itself. Spooky.

5:38

Black smoke. Billowing,

5:40

billowing out, and then

5:43

billowing once more. Into

5:45

a shape, creepy. But

5:47

now it's asking. Really with

5:49

intent to possess her you go well, you

5:51

know, yeah, sure pull pull up a chair

5:54

black smoke You can hang out in here.

5:56

I just have sleep relatives, so I won't

5:58

be doing much when it's saying Can

6:00

I stay with you a while?

6:02

It's not as a visitor. It's

6:04

more as a possessing spirit

6:07

That's how Monica takes

6:09

it as well. She's

6:11

completely terrified and she

6:14

tries to say no

6:16

she tries to scream out

6:18

No, but she doesn't have

6:20

any control over the

6:22

matter Monica cannot say no

6:25

In fact she hears herself

6:27

say a feeble and weak

6:29

Yes. The smoke then shoots

6:32

into her mouth and down

6:34

her throat and she's

6:36

swallowing this smoky

6:39

entity. She didn't make

6:41

those choices either. I

6:44

mean I'm sure smoke

6:46

would actually be a pretty

6:48

easy thing to swallow.

6:50

It's not like they

6:52

would actually joke you

6:55

would actually joke. but

6:57

theater of the mind, she

6:59

swallows this entire black cloud.

7:02

Instantly Monica's sleep

7:04

paralysis ends. And she

7:06

sits up and she goes, what

7:08

in the world was that? I must

7:11

have still been dreaming. I

7:13

thought I was awake, but

7:15

what I just saw was

7:17

impossible. That stuff's not real.

7:19

I must have been dreaming.

7:21

Despite the terrible... quote-unquote

7:25

dream she just had, she kind

7:27

of goes about her day and

7:29

then about her week and about

7:31

her month and time marches

7:34

on. And really, it's not until

7:36

a while later, like years down

7:39

the road, when she looks back

7:41

at that moment and goes,

7:43

oh my God, that was when

7:45

my life started to fall

7:48

apart. It happened so slowly.

7:50

over the course of months and years,

7:52

she didn't immediately put it together. She

7:54

didn't immediately connect it to this black

7:57

smoke entity. But after time had passed,

7:59

she realized... that all of this

8:01

stuff happened after that moment, she

8:03

began to fall into a very,

8:05

very deep depression. So much

8:08

so that it wasn't just

8:10

like a melancholy, she was

8:12

actively having thoughts about hurting

8:14

herself. And she was also

8:17

starting to experience manic states.

8:19

So that wild roller coaster,

8:21

the ups and the downs,

8:23

something that hadn't existed before

8:25

this moment war, no pun

8:28

intended full swing. And when

8:30

she was in some of these

8:32

darker moments, when she

8:34

seemed to be at the bottom

8:36

with thoughts of self-harm or

8:38

thoughts of exultation

8:40

full mania, these different wild

8:43

swings when she found

8:45

herself doing things or

8:47

thinking things that were extremely

8:50

unhealthy and in fact damaging

8:52

to her or the people

8:54

around her, she would hear

8:56

this voice. And it was her

8:58

own. She would hear outside of

9:01

herself her own voice saying,

9:03

please stop Monica. Stop.

9:06

Stop. Please. Don't do this.

9:08

Don't do this. And in

9:10

fact, it was when those

9:12

things started happening

9:14

when she was hearing her

9:17

own voice, talking to her,

9:19

telling her to not do

9:21

whatever she was about to

9:23

do. That's when she started to

9:25

kind of put things together. She

9:27

goes, I feel like I was

9:29

possessed. I feel like I was

9:31

possessed when that black smoke entered

9:33

me and yet there was still a

9:36

piece of me, the real me, clinging

9:38

on, trying not to let it fully

9:40

destroy my life. Even though it

9:42

was on that path. She goes, that

9:45

thing asked for my permission,

9:47

but I didn't give it. But I did.

9:49

Because I didn't have a choice. I

9:51

tried saying no, but instead I said yes

9:54

and it entered me and I don't know Why

9:56

I didn't have that choice I should have had

9:58

a choice, but the fact of the matter is

10:00

I was possessed and that's what's

10:03

causing me to do all of

10:05

this stuff and I just need

10:07

to hold on and try to

10:09

regain control. Now when she

10:11

posted this online she posted

10:13

this back in March of 2023

10:16

underneath the name Step Up To

10:18

the Streets fantastic movie by

10:20

the way that's probably one

10:23

of my favorite dance movies.

10:25

It might be one of my favorite

10:27

movies of the 2010s, honestly. She's

10:29

not the movie. I don't remember

10:31

that part. I remember them dancing.

10:34

I don't remember the black smoke.

10:36

It's all doing a little dance. Doing

10:38

the electric slide. Slides into the

10:40

other dancer's throats. They all get possessed.

10:42

Make them lose. Step up to the streets.

10:45

Monica says, you know, you know, she

10:47

looks back on that moment and she

10:49

thinks. Was I really possessed? I think

10:51

she's doing better now. It's really

10:53

hard to tell. She posted a

10:55

little bit after that online between

10:58

March 2023 and Mid-24, but

11:00

then the account's been completely dormant

11:02

since then. I mean, I figure

11:04

if she could even post this

11:07

online, that's a win. You

11:09

usually don't think, I usually

11:11

would assume that whatever would

11:13

be possessing someone wouldn't let

11:15

them tell others about it because

11:17

you figure people could say, hey, Maybe

11:20

you need some help. Maybe you should do this. Maybe

11:22

you should do that. These are the ways to get

11:24

rid of this. Nobody said that, by the way. Nobody

11:26

said that at all. There were no words of encouragement

11:28

for her going through this thing. I find that a

11:30

lot when I'm online. People always interact with

11:33

the most provocative or inflammatory posts.

11:35

This isn't revolutionary. You guys have

11:37

noticed this as well. And sometimes you'll

11:39

come across some truly unusual posts. There

11:41

are people really crying out for help

11:43

and nobody... responds to that.

11:45

They'd rather make jokes about this or

11:47

talk about that or dispute the facts

11:50

of so and so of this other

11:52

post and that. It's like screaming for

11:54

help in a bottomless coal mine. She

11:56

goes first off, it could have just all

11:58

been a coincidence. These things, the

12:00

negative feelings and the self-harm and

12:03

the mania, you know, maybe I was

12:05

going to have that stuff anyways. You

12:07

know, maybe she was developing bipolar

12:09

disorder. It was dormant for a time

12:11

and then it rose up. I don't

12:14

know much about bipolar disorder. I know with

12:16

a lot of mental illnesses, you know,

12:18

there's like almost like a time clock.

12:20

You can have someone who shows

12:22

no schizophrenic symptoms and then they

12:24

turn 18 and you start to see them pop

12:27

up. Could be something

12:29

like that with bipolar disorder as

12:31

well. She goes it could have

12:33

just been a coincidence She

12:35

goes it's also possible that I

12:37

had this sleep paralysis moment

12:40

Because I was developing these mental

12:42

health issues and she wasn't aware

12:44

of it as well. Let's say

12:46

that it was bipolar disorder Beginning

12:49

to show itself in her

12:51

life. She goes my subconscious

12:53

could have been Sensing that coming

12:55

on and created this sleep

12:58

paralysis experience and she

13:00

goes what if I was just dreaming

13:02

what if it 100% was a dream

13:04

and what I was seeing was this

13:07

eventual mental breakdown her

13:09

subconscious in a way was warning

13:11

her of it because what's interesting

13:13

is if that's the case you

13:15

yeah you wouldn't have a choice if

13:17

you have bipolar disorder and

13:20

you don't have any symptoms of

13:22

it yet but it's coming You

13:24

could say no, no, no, I don't

13:26

want you, I don't want you,

13:28

but it's it's gonna hit you,

13:31

right? It's this chemical issue

13:33

that's going on in your

13:35

brain, it's this chemistry that

13:38

you can't change at this

13:40

point. Maybe you can

13:42

take medication, use therapy

13:44

to dull the huge swings, to

13:46

help you out, sure, but the

13:48

actual prevention of it.

13:51

A pill you can take

13:53

that will stop schizophrenia before

13:55

it starts? There don't exist.

13:57

So if it was an

13:59

establishment... illness, you don't have a choice.

14:01

It's coming. You can't say no. It's just

14:04

a chemical thing. You can treat

14:06

it with different types of treatment.

14:08

You can definitely mitigate some of

14:10

the worst effects of it. Yes. But

14:12

you can't stop it from showing up

14:14

in the first place. So that's a

14:16

very, very interesting take. That could

14:18

have been what happened. It's also

14:21

possible that it's a demonic possession

14:23

or a possession from some sort

14:25

of dark entity. It's interesting

14:28

because when I looked at this story,

14:30

I really went back and forth on

14:32

it because this is the way that

14:34

people get possessed in the show

14:36

Supernatural, which is a great show. The first

14:38

five seasons are easily rival The

14:41

X files, I believe like it's right

14:43

up there It's not better than the

14:45

X files, but the first five seasons

14:47

of Supernatural is some of the best

14:50

sci-fi television out there Sci-Fi

14:52

fantasy, angels and demons

14:54

and ghosts and ghoulas,

14:56

fantastic. Rivals, Buffy, rivals,

14:58

X-Files, it starts to fall off after

15:00

season five, but many shows do. Buffy

15:03

and X-Files both had a season

15:05

where after that the show got. Not as

15:07

good. Not as good, right? And I really

15:09

went back and forth on this because

15:11

of the Black Smoke and stuff like that.

15:13

And that's why, you know, I go through

15:16

and I checked their posting history, and I

15:18

just find it so odd. that someone

15:20

would post this and then everything

15:22

else is completely normal. I just

15:24

that, that will never cease to puzzle

15:27

me. Because if it's fake, most

15:29

fakers fake a lot of things.

15:31

And especially something this bizarre. And

15:33

admitting to having a mental illness

15:35

and saying that it could have

15:37

been a demonic cloud. Because remember,

15:39

when you post stuff like this,

15:41

99% of the time, you're going

15:43

to get more ridicule. Then you're

15:45

going to get support unless it's in

15:47

a very very specialized part of the

15:50

internet. Always bring that on. And I went back

15:52

and forth, I go, should I cover this? I

15:54

go, it sounds a lot like a television

15:56

show. But she doesn't talk about any of

15:58

this other stuff. And again, this... This

16:00

story has no conclusion, that's

16:02

another sign. A lot of times

16:04

the story is true, because in real

16:07

life there's very rarely a

16:09

hard ending, a final battle. Life

16:11

just goes on. If it's a demonic

16:13

entity, it is really scary to

16:16

think that you can't say no. The

16:18

whole idea is that you have to

16:20

invite this stuff into your life.

16:22

It's one thing to move into

16:24

a haunted house. It's another thing

16:26

for you to become the vessel.

16:28

It's terrifying to think that

16:30

you couldn't say no. It's

16:33

terrifying to think that this entity

16:35

could invade her without her, not

16:37

only without her, you know, because

16:39

you probably could get possessed without

16:42

officially saying something or letting it

16:44

in, but if you're actively going

16:46

to say no, I don't want

16:49

this possession in me, but it

16:51

makes you say yes, it makes you

16:53

invite you and invite you in.

16:55

It's almost like breaking the rules.

16:58

It made her say yes. And so

17:00

this thing could possess her and

17:02

go, well, you know, she did

17:04

invite me in. I have complete

17:06

control over her now. I'm going

17:09

to make her life a living hell.

17:11

Very scary. I think

17:13

demonic possession is one of

17:15

the scariest things that can

17:17

happen to a human. Because

17:20

if you lose control over

17:22

your own life, like

17:24

actually the decisions you're

17:26

making. And the person who

17:28

is making those choices is diabolical.

17:31

They will ruin your life, not just your

17:33

life, but the lives of everyone

17:35

around you. Even random people you're

17:37

walking past on the street. You

17:39

don't have any choice over the matter.

17:41

You're actually possessed. You have to

17:44

pay the consequences. You know, when you

17:46

pull out that screwdriver you had

17:48

in your pocket and you just put it

17:50

through some random woman's eyes at a

17:52

bus stop. She's blind for life.

17:54

You're going to be in prison. You're

17:57

the one who pays the price. plus

18:00

any random person or loved one

18:02

that happens to be in your

18:04

way, the demon moves on to

18:06

somebody else. It terrifies me. I

18:08

think that's actually one of the

18:10

scariest things. And again, she never

18:12

says that this thing ever left

18:15

her. Maybe it did, maybe it

18:17

didn't. But whether or not it was

18:19

still, if it was still in her, she

18:21

has a serious problem. She needs

18:23

to figure out. Consequences

18:25

from her behavior during

18:28

that time period, friendships

18:30

lost, family members betrayed,

18:32

all of these decisions

18:34

she was making under the thrall

18:36

of this black smoke. So it's

18:39

interesting story, terrifying story, chills

18:41

me to the bone, and

18:44

the fact that she couldn't,

18:46

even though she wanted to, deny

18:48

it, it just changed her answer

18:50

and made her say, yes,

18:52

absolutely terrifying. Tori, I'm

18:54

going to go ahead and touch

18:56

the keys of the world. Famous

18:59

carbonicopter, we are leaving behind this

19:01

girl's bedroom. Why don't you fly us

19:03

all the way out to the hospital? We're headed

19:05

all the way out to the hospital. We're

19:07

headed all the way out to a

19:10

hospital. We're headed all the way out

19:12

to a hospital, but let's actually go

19:14

back in time a bit before we

19:16

get there. And first off, let me

19:18

give a shout out to the

19:20

last 747. He's the one who

19:22

sent in this story over. finding

19:24

of these fabulous stories. It's the

19:26

year 2004, or around there

19:28

somewhat, or about to meet

19:30

a young woman named Lucy.

19:33

Lucy's in her early 20s,

19:35

just a young woman navigating

19:37

through life. But she begins to

19:40

have these dreams. She's standing

19:42

in the middle of a

19:44

forest, in a clearing. Nature

19:47

unleashed. Canopy of green

19:49

above her, the earthy soil beneath

19:51

her feet. She's standing in

19:54

a clearing surrounded by trees,

19:56

but maybe Earthy isn't the

19:58

right word. Maybe tree... or

20:01

forest aren't the right

20:03

words either. She's

20:05

dancing with the man in the middle of

20:07

the clearing. These dreams would

20:10

always play out the same. She's

20:12

dancing with this man and he would

20:14

always instruct her. Don't

20:16

look at my face. Don't

20:19

look at my face. She

20:21

wouldn't. She didn't even have

20:24

a desire to. She was

20:26

just in this moment in the

20:28

embrace of a man. Maybe that's not

20:30

the right word either. Because

20:32

in these dreams, she

20:34

knew she wasn't on

20:36

earth. All the plants

20:38

looked different. The

20:40

wildlife did as well. There

20:43

was not a single

20:45

recognizable creature nor a

20:47

recognizable plant. She'd never

20:49

seen anything like this. But

20:51

as Lucy and the man danced,

20:53

he would tell her about

20:55

they would dance in this clearing

20:58

and he would point to a

21:00

particular bush and say, that

21:02

is the thruggage bush.

21:05

And that little furry guy

21:07

over there is a thump thump.

21:10

High up in the sky, you hear that Lucy? That's

21:13

the whale of the bombon. He

21:16

would tell her about the plants

21:18

and wildlife that surrounded them

21:20

while they were dancing in

21:22

this beautiful place. She

21:24

had this dream several times a week. She

21:27

loved it. She loved being

21:29

there. She loved dancing with the

21:31

man. Several times a

21:33

week for months, she

21:36

had this dream. When

21:39

she was awake, she

21:41

was still a young woman, having

21:43

the thoughts and desires that all young

21:45

people do. She dated. She

21:47

had been involved in more than

21:49

one serious relationship in her

21:51

life. But as these

21:54

dreams continued, she found herself falling

21:56

in love with this man. But

21:58

one night. The dream begins

22:00

and Lucy is standing there in

22:03

the clearing. And the first thing

22:05

that she notices is the smell.

22:07

The smell of burning plastic instantly

22:10

overwhelmed her nostrils. It

22:12

was the first thing she noticed when

22:14

she was in this dream. A place

22:17

she had been multiple times before. Over

22:19

and over and over and over and

22:21

over and over and over and over

22:23

for months, right? This time the raw

22:26

unbridled beauty of nature. had

22:28

become toxic. She

22:30

instantly smells the

22:33

burning plastic and

22:35

the sky above, but

22:38

now an orange-ish red.

22:40

The man was there, but

22:43

they weren't dancing this

22:45

time. He just stood

22:47

there. He's looking down

22:50

at her. She knows the

22:52

rules. When she happily

22:54

followed all these times,

22:56

all these She wasn't

22:59

looking at him,

23:01

but he was

23:03

standing in front of

23:06

her and he said

23:08

I'm sorry I love

23:10

you So much The

23:12

man then grabbed

23:14

Lucy's face and

23:17

began tilting

23:19

her head up. He

23:21

forced her to look at

23:23

his face Lucy

23:26

woke up She's laying

23:28

there. Trying to

23:30

process what had just

23:32

happened. After that

23:34

night, Lucy never

23:36

dreamed of that man

23:39

again. She never went

23:41

back to the clearing.

23:43

She never danced

23:45

with him. Those were

23:47

just memories now. Even...

23:49

I mean, memories implies

23:52

that it was real. Can

23:54

you truly have a memory of

23:57

a dream? Like trying to hold

23:59

on to a convoy. Lucy never

24:01

had that dream again,

24:04

but after that night,

24:06

she also completely lost

24:08

the desire to ever

24:10

be in a relationship

24:12

with anybody. For the

24:15

next 20 years, she

24:17

never went on a

24:19

date, she never pursued

24:21

a relationship. But she

24:24

always thought of the

24:26

man in the clearing.

24:29

He never left her heart.

24:31

Jump forward 20 years. We're

24:33

in the year 2024 now.

24:35

And Lucy, 43 years old,

24:37

single. She's on a solo

24:40

road trip to go visit

24:42

her mother. But along the

24:44

way, she gets in a

24:46

car accident. A pretty bad

24:48

one. Nobody died, but Lucy's

24:50

car was totaled. And in

24:52

fact, during the car accident,

24:54

she ended up banging her

24:56

head against the window. I

24:59

think like the driver's side window.

25:01

I mean, it doesn't matter. I

25:03

mean, your head's moving pretty fast.

25:05

It's something hard. She's able to

25:07

get out of the vehicle. She's

25:10

talking to the other driver, emergency

25:12

personnel show up, all of this

25:14

stuff, tow truck. But she begins

25:16

to complain of a pretty serious

25:18

headache. And the EMTs say, hey,

25:20

you know, you probably need to

25:22

come back to the hospital, get

25:24

that checked out. Like, she's like,

25:26

I have really, really, really bad

25:28

headache. Maybe nothing. But let's take

25:30

you to the hospital. Do you

25:32

consent to that? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

25:35

I probably should go to hospital.

25:37

And when she gets to the

25:39

hospital, she realizes that was the

25:41

smart decision because she gets there

25:43

and she passes out. Doctors take

25:45

her, get her to the emergency

25:47

room. Begin first off finding out

25:49

what is going on. I mean,

25:51

obviously there was automobile involved. I

25:53

mean, you know, you have to

25:55

can rule out some things. They're

25:57

like, is there bankruptcy? Okay, I

25:59

mean, rule out something. but they're

26:02

like let's see what's actually going

26:04

on in her head bad headache

26:06

she's unconscious now let's figure this

26:08

out now while this is this

26:10

is just starting right she passes

26:12

out nurses get her to the

26:14

emergency room they're starting to look

26:16

at her at the nurses station

26:18

the phone begins to ring nurse

26:20

picks it up says I'm the

26:22

nurse at Valley West Hospital or

26:24

wherever this story takes place we

26:27

don't have a specific location I'm

26:29

the nurse at Valley West Hospital.

26:31

Maybe not name a hospital. They're

26:33

going to get inundated with phone

26:35

calls. They're like, is this story

26:37

true? The nurse picks up the

26:39

phone and says the hospital, hi

26:41

in the hospital. What's your first

26:43

thing on the job? They're like,

26:45

honey, you're not actually the hospital.

26:47

You work in a hospital. She's

26:49

like, oh, okay. Wow, this job's

26:51

more complicated than I thought. Nurse

26:54

picks up the phone. says, hey,

26:56

we're the hospital. She looks over

26:58

at it. The person who's training

27:00

her, the trainer just kind of

27:02

shrugs her shoulders. She's like, yeah,

27:04

I guess that's better than proclaiming

27:06

you are a hospital. Anyways. Call,

27:08

comes through, nurse picks up the

27:10

phone. Person on the phone says,

27:12

hey, um, hi, yeah, I, this

27:14

is an emergency. I'm Lucy's husband.

27:16

Lucy, she just was brought in

27:19

and there is something I really

27:21

need to tell you about her

27:23

health history. This is super important.

27:25

Is there like a doctor I

27:27

can talk to? I need to

27:29

let you guys know something. Here's

27:31

the thing. Lucinda, which is her

27:33

full name, her full real name,

27:35

Lucinda, she has a heart aneurysm.

27:37

And it is very, very important

27:39

that you guys take a look

27:41

at that because I know she

27:43

just got in this horrible car

27:46

accident. Her aneurysm gets any worse,

27:48

she'll die. And the nurse is

27:50

like writing down all these notes.

27:52

She's like, okay, okay. No, we'll

27:54

take care of that. And he

27:56

goes, what you need to do

27:58

right now is the aneurysm is

28:00

at 3.9 centimeters. That is what

28:02

it is at right now. Now,

28:04

if it is any bigger, something's

28:06

wrong. That is what she's at

28:08

now. That is what she's being

28:11

treated for. 3.9 centimeters. If it's

28:13

gotten bigger, if it's gotten torn,

28:15

then you guys need to take

28:17

care of it right now. And

28:19

the nurse is like, oh my

28:21

God, yeah, no, we will 100%.

28:23

Take a look at that because

28:25

that could happen right you already

28:27

have this damaged heart because he

28:29

goes she's in treatment for that

28:31

She was not like she hasn't

28:33

she's out just jogging and dancing

28:35

around he goes she's in treatment

28:38

for that her cardiologist knows about

28:40

this So she's already having that

28:42

looked at but if something if

28:44

it's worse than we're gonna need

28:46

to treat it right away the

28:48

nurses jot and all this stuff

28:50

down and he goes listen Please

28:52

make sure that you guys can

28:54

check on the aneurysm nurses like

28:56

yeah, we will 100% take a

28:58

look this he goes okay Tell

29:00

her I love her just tell

29:02

her I love her Okay, bye

29:05

caller hangs up Now at the

29:07

nurse station, you know emergency rooms

29:09

can be either super busy or

29:11

super slow. I've been in emergency

29:13

rooms. We're wait a while. It's

29:15

a hectic place But what already

29:17

kind of puzzles the nurses? They

29:19

go, well, you know what's super

29:21

interesting is that Lucy's here alone

29:23

and she just came in and

29:25

she passed out and they have

29:27

her in emergency room. When did

29:30

she have time to call her

29:32

husband? That's kind of odd. But

29:34

you know, maybe she called him

29:36

on the way. Maybe she used

29:38

her phone in the ambulance. Maybe

29:40

she called him out when the

29:42

car accident happened. Maybe she called

29:44

him out when the car accident

29:46

happened. Maybe she called him out

29:48

then. before she even got in

29:50

the ambulance. There's as though have

29:52

to get this information to her

29:54

emergency medical team so they can

29:57

make sure this aneurysm isn't worse.

29:59

However, they also do try calling

30:01

the number back to get some

30:03

more information and no one picks

30:05

up. It just rings and rings.

30:07

rings and rings after they try

30:09

dialing the number again is nothing.

30:11

Now Lucy, she fell into unconsciousness

30:13

in the hospital. At one point

30:15

she regains consciousness while she's undergoing

30:17

a CT scan. And then she

30:19

loses consciousness again. And the next

30:22

thing she knows, she's sitting in

30:24

a hospital bed. The

30:26

doctor comes in and he goes,

30:28

hey, Lucinda, the doctor comes in

30:30

and he goes, hey, Lucinda, yeah,

30:32

I'm looking here at your chart,

30:35

actually, I'm glad you're sure wake,

30:37

I hope you're doing better, you're

30:39

feeling okay, she's like, yeah, I'm

30:41

feeling okay, she's like, yeah, I'm

30:43

feeling, okay, I guess we're being

30:45

okay, she's like, yeah, I'm feeling,

30:47

okay, I guess we're being in

30:49

the hospital, Who's your cardiologist? Because

30:51

I want to talk to them,

30:53

I don't see them listed on

30:55

here. And Lucy is sitting there

30:58

and she goes, what? The doctor

31:00

goes, your cardiologist, the cardiologist who's

31:02

been keeping an eye on your

31:04

heart aneurysm, you know, all of

31:06

that treatment here and they're going,

31:08

what's their name? And she goes,

31:10

I don't have a cardiologist and

31:12

I don't have a heart aneururism.

31:14

I don't know what you're talking

31:16

about. So the doctor's like no

31:18

you do have a cardiologist and

31:21

You do have a heart aneurysm

31:23

and Lucin is like I know

31:25

neither of those are true neither

31:27

of those are true and they

31:29

start kind of going back and

31:31

forth and doctors like Great, I

31:33

thought I was about to get

31:35

off work now this person has

31:37

amnesia. I'm gonna have to do

31:39

a bunch of more work and

31:42

he goes Lucin to Lucin to

31:44

listen to listen We can quibble

31:46

all day long about whether or

31:48

not you have a cardiologist, and

31:50

I think that you do, I

31:52

just don't think you remember, but

31:54

I'll tell you this right now,

31:56

you 100% have a heart aneurysm,

31:58

because we just scanned you for

32:00

it while you're unconscious, after your

32:02

husband called... And I have the

32:05

images that show you have a

32:07

heart aneurysm. So whether or not

32:09

you remember your cardiologist, I definitely

32:11

hope you have one because you

32:13

need to get this treated. I

32:15

don't have a cardiologist, doctor goes,

32:17

your husband called us and told

32:19

us, and she's like, I don't

32:21

have a husband. So I mean,

32:23

like, think about it. Serious head

32:26

injury, in and out of consciousness.

32:28

Now she has amnesia. She doesn't

32:30

remember heart aneurysm, she doesn't remember

32:32

a cardiologist, and she doesn't remember

32:34

having a husband? She goes, I

32:36

don't know what you're talking about.

32:38

I'm not married. I know that

32:40

for a fact. I don't have

32:42

a cardiologist. I know that for

32:44

a fact, and I don't have

32:46

a heart aneurysm. Alright, I know

32:49

that for a fact. I've never

32:51

been treated for a heart aneurysm,

32:53

no cardiologist, no, and eventually the

32:55

doctor goes, okay, listen, I'm going

32:57

to be completely honest with you

32:59

as he's trying to get the

33:01

nurse. He's like, do we have

33:03

emergency contacts for her? Is there

33:05

anyone else who can come in

33:07

here that she knows, hopefully? Maybe

33:09

she has amnesia in the next

33:12

person we bring in. Who's your

33:14

emergency contact? It's your grandma. The

33:16

nurse says, okay, probably shouldn't, probably

33:18

shouldn't yell out private medical information

33:20

from across the room, but call

33:22

her grandma, get her down here,

33:24

because Lucinda, listen, grandma comes down

33:26

to the hospital. She finally gets

33:28

out and then the doctor goes,

33:30

listen, you got to talk to

33:33

Lucinda, I think she's losing her

33:35

mind or amnesia or something, I

33:37

don't know. But she's telling us

33:39

she doesn't know who her husband

33:41

is. She doesn't know her cardiologist

33:43

and grandma goes, husband, she doesn't

33:45

have a husband. She's not married.

33:47

She's never been married. She hasn't

33:49

dated anyone in 20 years. The

33:51

doctor's probably like, oh, okay, is

33:53

Amnesia contagious? Is this the beginning

33:56

of some outbreak scenario? The grandma's

33:58

like, Lucinda is not. I don't

34:00

know about the cardiologist, I don't

34:02

think she has a cardiologist, she's

34:04

never mentioned anything about a heart

34:06

aneurysm, but I can vouch for

34:08

the fact that she's not married.

34:10

She's never been married, she's never

34:12

dated anyone in decades. Okay, the

34:14

doctor goes, listen, okay, I don't

34:16

even want to talk about the

34:19

husband anymore, she has to heart

34:21

aneurysm. We know that for a

34:23

fact. And he ends up, the

34:25

emergency room doctor, calls Lucy's doctor.

34:27

And the emergency room doctor goes,

34:29

hey, we have a patient hair,

34:31

names Lucinda, da, da, da, da,

34:33

da. Talking, and when the emergency

34:35

room doctor says, I'm trying to

34:37

find out the name of the

34:40

cardiologist so I can talk about

34:42

her heart aneurysm, Lucinda's doctor goes,

34:44

she doesn't have a heart aneurysm.

34:46

She doesn't have a cardiologist, because

34:48

she doesn't need one. Emergency room

34:50

doctor goes, she does. We know

34:52

now that she does have a

34:54

heart aneur aneurism. Eventually,

34:57

after the doctor realizes that

35:00

Lucy is not amnesic and

35:02

is okay to go home,

35:04

Lucy does leave the hospital.

35:06

But, she is told, you

35:08

need to take care of

35:11

this aneurysm. We're going to

35:13

send all of these documents

35:15

over to your personal doctor.

35:17

They'll take a look at

35:19

them, all the imaging, they'll

35:22

get you set up with

35:24

the cardiologist. You do have

35:26

an an aneurysm. That is

35:28

3.9 centimeters. So the documents

35:31

are sent to her doctor,

35:33

she ends up getting a

35:35

referral to a cardiologist, and

35:37

they are in the process

35:39

of truth. And they are

35:42

treating her for this. At

35:44

the same time, though, Lucy

35:46

and her family cannot figure

35:48

out who called the hospital.

35:50

Because you know they're like

35:53

did a stalker call some

35:55

sort of psycho? Some sort

35:57

of someone with a cardiologist?

35:59

But the one thing that they

36:01

couldn't really figure out was whoever

36:04

called the hospital, how did they

36:06

know that I had an aneurysm?

36:08

How did they know that and

36:10

the exact size of it? How would

36:12

it even the most intense stalker

36:15

ever know that? But it's still

36:17

disturbing. And it may be a good

36:19

way, maybe a bad way, I think mostly

36:21

a good way, because it

36:23

saved her life, right? She

36:25

had an untreated medical condition

36:27

that could have been... Made worse

36:30

by the car accident. It wasn't.

36:32

It was the exact same size,

36:34

but she hadn't been treated for

36:37

it. Somebody called the hospital,

36:39

posing as her husband, to give

36:41

this information, that was going

36:43

to lead towards this treatment

36:46

plan. Who was it, though?

36:48

Well, this is interesting. I did

36:50

not know this was true before I

36:52

read this account. Did you know that

36:55

hospitals record all of your

36:57

phone calls? Now

36:59

I know when you call a hospital or

37:01

a doctor's office they have that

37:04

message saying this phone call

37:06

may be recorded for quality

37:08

assurance purposes But because many

37:10

you know you get that phone call

37:12

when you call pretty much any

37:14

customer service place But because

37:17

you're giving out very often

37:19

personal health data They will then

37:21

store that phone call and depending

37:24

on what state you're in Sometimes

37:26

they'll store it for a couple

37:28

months, sometimes it'll store it for

37:30

a couple years, depending on

37:32

how the laws, the information

37:35

retention laws are set up.

37:37

They're not simply recorded for

37:39

quality assurance purposes. They're

37:41

recorded and then stored. And you

37:43

can request to get copies of

37:46

those calls. Now that's completely unusual.

37:48

If you call up a call

37:50

center, you can't say, hey, can I

37:52

get a copy of this call sent

37:54

to me? Yeah, sure. What's your email

37:56

or drop an MP3? But because this

37:58

is your personal data, your... Health information

38:00

that is being recorded, you

38:03

have the right to get

38:05

a copy of those recordings.

38:08

I was completely unaware of

38:10

that. Well, Lucy and her

38:13

family goes, why don't we

38:15

get a copy of the

38:17

phone call that came in?

38:20

Regarding my personal health information.

38:22

It was my quote unquote

38:25

husband, but he was speaking

38:27

about my health record. Can

38:30

we get a copy of

38:32

it? And they were. And

38:35

they did. They were actually

38:37

able to get a copy

38:39

of the phone call that

38:42

came into the hospital. And

38:44

so Lucy and her sister

38:47

and her niece are at

38:49

Lucy after this accident, she's

38:52

staying with her sister while

38:54

she's recovering. Lucy and her

38:56

sister and her niece are

38:59

sitting there and they get

39:01

a copy of the recording.

39:04

Probably like an MP3 email

39:06

type thing. I don't like

39:09

they send you a cassette.

39:11

And Lucy hits play. Within

39:13

seconds of that call starting.

39:16

Lucy gasped. The message is

39:18

playing. Lucy's sister and niece

39:21

are just staring at her,

39:23

being like, Lucy, what's wrong?

39:26

Lucy's just listening to the

39:28

call. and

39:30

trembling. All she could say was, I

39:32

know him. It was the man from

39:34

the dreams. The man she danced with

39:36

in the clearing in the woods. She

39:38

told her sister and her niece for

39:40

the first time this story of this

39:42

dream, this reoccurring dream she had. Twenty

39:44

years ago. It lasted for months. It

39:47

lasted for months. It lasted for months.

39:49

It lasted for months. It lasted for

39:51

months. It lasted for months. It lasted

39:53

for months. It lasted for months. It

39:55

lasted for months. It lasted for months.

39:57

It lasted for months. It lasted for

39:59

months. It lasted for months. She told

40:01

him about how weird it was

40:03

and at the same time how

40:05

beautiful and how

40:08

fulfilling. Until that last

40:10

dream. Until that last

40:12

dream ended their romance

40:15

and separated them

40:17

forever. Lucy goes, you know,

40:19

he made me look at his

40:22

face. I don't remember

40:24

what he looks like. I

40:26

don't know if I don't know

40:28

if I Ever even processed

40:31

for a moment

40:33

what he looked like,

40:35

but... And no matter

40:38

how hard I try, I

40:40

can't. I can't remember

40:43

his face, but I

40:45

never forgot his

40:47

voice. Never forgot

40:49

the sound of his

40:52

voice. And now she

40:54

hears it being played

40:57

back. Hi,

40:59

I'm Lucy's husband. I

41:01

have some things I need

41:03

to tell you about her

41:05

health history. It's

41:08

important. It's important.

41:10

Please, please help her.

41:13

This was posted online

41:15

by the niece, by Lucy's

41:17

niece, who she was staying

41:20

with and who was there

41:22

when the recording was

41:24

playing. And... She

41:26

posted this online underneath

41:28

the name. Pimple pop?

41:31

Pretty disgusting, right?

41:33

Pretty disgusting name. It's

41:35

a fascinating story. There's

41:38

two things I want to say about

41:40

it. You know, when the last 747

41:42

sent this over to me, by the

41:44

time I got it, the

41:46

post had already been deleted.

41:49

And all of the responses had been

41:51

deleted as well. All the responses

41:53

that the niece had to people's

41:55

questions, right? People had questions about

41:58

this. Mostly people were just... skeptic

42:00

sniping and that is a new term

42:02

I just made up very proud of

42:04

myself just came up with it people

42:06

who already don't like a topic don't

42:08

believe in the topic go to Parts

42:10

of the internet where people talk about

42:12

things that they don't believe in which

42:14

fine, right? It's open place But then

42:16

they just read a sentence or two

42:18

and go that's not real That's not

42:21

real so the whole thing's not real

42:23

and then they move on to the

42:25

next post a lot of these people

42:27

That's all they do. I Mean, there's

42:29

a difference between being skeptical and not

42:31

believing something. It's another thing to just

42:33

hang out in Paranormal parts of the

42:35

internet specifically to Tell everyone how you

42:37

don't believe in it and how they

42:39

shouldn't believe in it either Skeptic sniping

42:41

and they do jump from one topic

42:43

to another. It's quite odd I've said

42:45

it might be a government Psyop operation.

42:48

There's some motivation behind it There's

42:50

some motivation behind it.

42:52

I'm not a Latter -day

42:54

Saint. I Don't

42:57

go to Latter -day Saint Websites

43:00

and subreddits To tell people

43:02

I'm not a Latter -day Saint

43:04

and to tell people why I

43:06

don't think that their religion

43:08

is correct There's what would be

43:10

the point What would be

43:12

the point really the only point

43:15

of it would either be

43:17

to make myself feel superior or

43:19

to make other people doubt

43:21

What they believe and both of

43:23

those Motives are

43:25

suspect to say the

43:27

least an Outright

43:30

hostile to say more so

43:32

they sent it over to me

43:34

and it does sound Fantastical

43:38

it's not like anything we've come across

43:40

before when we look at all of our

43:42

normal stories with ghosts and ghouls and

43:44

goblins and Aliens and cryptids and all this

43:46

stuff It's definitely unusual. It's funny because

43:48

what sold me on it again. It could

43:50

be fake, right? I'm taking a chance

43:53

on this one like I do with pretty

43:55

much every story we cover on this

43:57

show I never 100 % know for sure

43:59

because I didn't expect it. There was a fact in

44:01

there that I did not think was true.

44:03

And actually when I first read it, I

44:05

go, well, I know that's not true, therefore

44:08

the whole story must be fake. But just

44:10

like I read the skeptics' responses to

44:12

what people post on the

44:15

internet regarding the paranormal, I

44:17

also have to question my own, right? And

44:19

I go, well, that's not true. You can't

44:21

get a copy of your phone call from

44:23

a hospital. It doesn't work. I used

44:25

to work in the health care field.

44:28

I used to have to do all

44:30

of that HIPAA training and all of

44:32

that stuff specifically around phone calls.

44:34

I go, you can't do that.

44:36

Well, turns out you can. And when

44:38

I found out that was true, that

44:40

made me go, okay, that's a

44:43

pretty obscure fact. Most people wouldn't

44:45

know it. I worked in the

44:47

health care industry decades ago. And

44:49

I didn't even know that. The

44:52

only way you would actually

44:54

know such an obscure part

44:56

of a story yet pivotal

44:58

part of the story

45:00

is if you experienced it

45:03

If you actually had to

45:05

request a phone call from

45:07

a hospital and the red

45:09

tape it takes to get it

45:11

to you I go wow that if

45:13

you know easily if that was not

45:15

true then the whole story would be

45:18

You could write off the whole

45:20

story But that one weird comment

45:22

about the phone calls and when I looked

45:24

it up, I go, wow, okay, so let's

45:27

take a second look at this

45:29

story. That's what I ended up

45:31

doing and I'm actually glad that

45:33

I did because it's quite an

45:35

odd one. The big question is, and

45:37

this is, I mean, we asked this

45:39

question all the time, but because we

45:42

don't cover, because we don't come

45:44

across stories like this, it's

45:46

doubly important. What happened?

45:48

Who was the man? Where

45:50

were they dancing? I

45:52

understand why he only came

45:55

to her in dreams. I mean,

45:57

I do feel that that is

45:59

a when the other world can

46:01

more easily access us, contact

46:04

us? So I get that part of

46:06

it, but who was the man? Was

46:09

it an alien world they were

46:11

on? Was it an alternate earth

46:13

they were on? Why couldn't she

46:15

see the man's face? Why couldn't

46:18

she look at the man's

46:20

face? Again, we can kind

46:22

of... Guess, it's almost like a

46:24

Serenodeburgiac or a Butting the

46:26

Beast type of thing. Maybe

46:28

he was so inhuman looking

46:30

that if she saw him the first time

46:33

or the fifth time or the tenth

46:35

time, she would be repulsed. But

46:37

over the course of several months,

46:39

her heart began to fall for

46:42

him. She really started to fall

46:44

in love with him. Maybe his

46:46

looks wouldn't matter at that

46:48

point. But I also think

46:50

it had to do with his

46:52

world burning or melting, whatever

46:54

was going on, the smell

46:56

of melting plastic, which is

46:59

something so alien to raw

47:01

unbridled nature. That's

47:03

an interesting juxtaposition

47:05

there. The trees and the

47:07

forests and the claring and

47:10

the animals, and then what's

47:12

the most man-made smell? Possible,

47:14

I would say it's burning plastic.

47:17

It's not natural to the world.

47:19

We have to process all this

47:21

stuff to get it. And then

47:23

when plastic is burning, something

47:25

seriously gone wrong. Very,

47:28

very interesting, juxtaposition

47:31

there. Was it an alien? Was

47:33

it an alien world? Was it

47:35

a human from another reality?

47:37

That's a whole set of

47:39

questions. And then... Yes, contacting

47:41

people in your dreams, it seems

47:43

to be fairly easy. That's why

47:46

someone who, if they've died and

47:48

they're close to you, in a very short

47:50

order after they die, they can appear

47:52

in your dreams. You can have a

47:54

dream about them of them saying goodbye.

47:56

It's very, very common. Probably the most

47:59

common. ghost encounter,

48:01

not all of them make it

48:03

to the point where they're

48:06

actually haunting a house. Most

48:08

of them don't want to

48:10

be, right? Most of them

48:12

just move on to the other

48:14

side, to the next stage

48:17

of existence. But making

48:19

a phone call, I mean,

48:21

this guy must have called

48:23

in some favors from wherever

48:25

he's at, to be able to do

48:28

that. Because that's very rare.

48:30

Not impossible. We have stories

48:32

of ghosts contacting people via

48:34

phone. But remember, we had that really

48:36

cool story about the 911 call. I'll

48:39

put that episode in the show notes.

48:41

Was it 911? Or I think it was

48:43

like Internet service phone call. A

48:45

ghost called is Internet service provider

48:47

to find out why his Wi-Fi

48:49

wasn't working. And it turns out there

48:51

was no service in that house at all.

48:54

In fact, the man had been murdered there.

48:56

That's really cool, and I'll try

48:58

to find that one, put it in

49:00

the show notes, but this wasn't a

49:03

ghost. Out of everything, I think he

49:05

was probably an alien or

49:07

a human from a alternate reality,

49:09

or maybe a man from the

49:12

future, things had changed so

49:14

radically, probably not. That might

49:16

be a little too far. Ghost,

49:18

but definitely not a ghost. So,

49:20

yeah, like using the phone. And then

49:22

you got to wonder how he knew

49:25

about the aneurysm. Again, see if it

49:27

was a husband from an alternate reality

49:29

and that version of her had

49:32

the heart aneurysm, the little bump

49:34

on her heart, he would know that or it

49:36

wouldn't be a hundred percent, but

49:38

it'd be likely that not even

49:40

likely because the multiverse could be

49:42

a hundred million different things. How

49:44

did he know? Like then you

49:47

kind of think was it a

49:49

guardian angel? I

49:51

don't really think it was an

49:53

alternate version of her husband because

49:55

he would I Wonder if you lived in

49:58

an alternate reality and you were

50:00

married to Lucy but then you had enough

50:02

this is actually interesting idea for

50:04

a book you're married to Lucy

50:06

in one reality but then you start

50:09

cheating on her with Lucy from another

50:11

reality so it's the same woman so

50:13

technically you're not cheating but technically

50:16

you are because it's two separate

50:18

universes how did he know I mean it's

50:20

a good thing and it's almost this

50:22

was interesting because it's not like

50:25

he was a guardian angel if it

50:27

was a guardian angel if it was

50:29

bigger And she was going to die

50:31

that night, I would say, 90% it's

50:33

a guardian angel. But he

50:35

was concerned. He didn't

50:37

know if it had gotten bigger. He

50:40

just knew it was a

50:42

possibility because of the car

50:44

accident. So he knew she got in

50:46

a car accident. He knew what

50:49

hospital she was in. He knew

50:51

the phone number, but he

50:53

didn't know if the aneurysm

50:55

was bigger. And if he just

50:57

wanted, you could go, well Jason, maybe

50:59

he's a guardian angel and he

51:02

wanted her to know she had an

51:04

aneurysm. I considered that as well, but

51:06

he could have let her know way before

51:08

this. He could have let her know

51:10

when the aneurysm started. Or let

51:12

her know in a less spectacular way.

51:14

So it's not like he was warning

51:17

her that she had an an aneurysm.

51:19

He was concerned that it might have

51:21

gotten bigger because of the car

51:23

accident. So it's either

51:25

an alien or a human from

51:28

an alternate reality or a

51:30

different dimension, or it could

51:32

be a million different things,

51:34

right? I'm just kind of settling

51:37

on a few. Maybe Guardian

51:39

Angel, but whatever it was,

51:41

he had a lot of knowledge, but

51:43

he wasn't omnipotent. He didn't

51:45

know if the aneurysm

51:47

had gotten bigger due to

51:50

the car accident. That's why

51:52

he was panicking. So

51:56

fascinating story. Super

51:58

interesting. It really

52:00

sucks when people put stuff like

52:02

this up, and then

52:04

these skeptic snipers show

52:07

up. I

52:09

mean imagine like you post, so I

52:11

looked through her posting history. It wasn't

52:13

all a bunch of crazy stuff, like

52:15

I have her username as PimplePop, that

52:18

username is still up.

52:21

She didn't completely delete her

52:24

identity. It's all this

52:26

normal stuff and then she has

52:28

this one post and everybody freaks out about

52:30

it. And how long can you put up

52:32

with that before you, it's harassment, before

52:34

you just delete it because it's not worth

52:36

the trouble. She didn't even experience it. She

52:39

was asking about her aunt. She goes, I asked my

52:41

aunt if I could post this online. She said

52:43

it was okay. She doesn't know what

52:45

to make of it. I'm going to

52:47

post it here on the paranormal

52:49

subreddit and let's see what

52:51

we can figure out. And

52:54

people just told her it wasn't true

52:56

over and over and over and over

52:58

again. So she's like, you know what?

53:00

My life was far simpler a couple

53:02

of days ago when this wasn't online. I'm

53:05

not saying you have to believe everything, but

53:08

I don't think that, again,

53:10

for some people

53:12

it's just a way to either make themselves feel

53:14

better or it's a concentrated effort to tear

53:16

down people who believe in this stuff. And it's

53:18

like, what's the point? I

53:21

get it upvotes. I get it that

53:24

Reddit is a horrible, horrible website. Right

53:26

now it's the worst website online, I

53:28

believe. I think it's terrible. I

53:30

think it's, this won't get

53:32

reposted. This is a story

53:34

that was submitted and

53:36

then taken down. And

53:38

this podcast is

53:40

really the last time it's going to

53:42

be talked about. She's never going to post this

53:44

again. She remembers all of

53:47

the hate and disbelief she got the first

53:49

time. Her aunt's never going to post it

53:51

again. Her aunt's probably never going to talk

53:53

about it with anyone again. You

53:55

know what I mean? The government used to do

53:57

this with UFO stories. They just used the mainstream

53:59

media. Now don't... have to do that because

54:01

either people are doing it for

54:03

free to make themselves feel

54:06

better or this this is

54:08

the government still doing that

54:10

they're just using alt

54:12

accounts but you know it does rile

54:14

me up right when I see these skeptic

54:17

snipers just jumping in

54:19

leaving negative comments and

54:22

bouncing people say it's the

54:24

nature of the internet I hope

54:26

for better And especially in people

54:28

in the world of paranormal,

54:30

you can be skeptic. I'm

54:33

totally open to skepticism. It's

54:35

this kind of skepticism for

54:38

karma, this skepticism to make

54:40

yourself feel better. That's just

54:43

a little ridiculous. Because

54:45

what happens is in the

54:47

end, people in the future don't want

54:49

to share these stories. And this

54:51

one, I mean, it's one of a

54:54

kind. A lot of these

54:56

questions, probably all of

54:58

them are going to go unanswered.

55:00

The only person, we

55:02

hope, will ever find out

55:05

the truth is Lucy herself.

55:07

Hopefully someday she is

55:09

reunited with this man that

55:11

she fell in love with

55:13

20 years ago. Hopefully she

55:16

will be reunited with

55:18

him. And she won't

55:20

have any questions. She won't

55:22

care about how he made

55:24

the phone call. Or why the dream

55:27

stopped. She won't care about

55:29

any of the people who

55:31

don't believe. She won't care

55:33

about any of them. All she'll

55:35

care about is once more being

55:37

held by the man, the only

55:40

man she's ever truly

55:42

loved. Reunited with him

55:44

once more. And continuing

55:46

their dance their dance. somewhere

55:51

far away in

55:53

a clearing in

55:55

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