Retro Rabbit - A Corkscrew Through The Head

Retro Rabbit - A Corkscrew Through The Head

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the corkscrew entered his

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head today on Dead

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Rabbit Radio. Hey

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everyone welcome back to another episode

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of Dead Rabbit Radio I'm your host

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Jason Carpenter I'm having a great day I

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hope you guys are having a great day

1:00

too we got a lot of stuff to

1:02

cover so we're gonna slide right into this

1:05

one first off let's toss the keys to

1:07

all of our vehicles into the capable hands

1:09

of our newest patron supporter Evan Young Evan

1:12

everyone give a round of applause to Evan

1:14

you don't have to I mean it would

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just be polite he's gonna be our captain

1:18

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totally understand that's fine too. Just help spread

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the word about the show. Talk about

1:25

it online to your friends. That also

1:27

really, really helps out a lot. Also,

1:29

I have sent out all of the

1:31

patron supporter stickers. I still have some,

1:33

but if you have sent me your

1:35

address officially today, some of you guys

1:37

have been waiting a while, I apologize

1:39

for you that, but they have all,

1:41

if you have sent me your address,

1:43

yours is in the mail today. Sorry

1:45

I fell behind on that, but... It's all it's

1:47

all out there. So it's on the way so you can

1:50

keep checking your mailbox Sorry, because some of you

1:52

guys have been checking your mailbox quite a lot

1:54

Evan Let's go ahead and talk to the keys

1:56

to the Jason Jalapi. We're gonna take a long

1:59

car ride. We are leaving behind Oregon, we're

2:01

headed up to New York. Ding-ling, ding-ling,

2:03

that's the door as we're opening to

2:05

go into the diner. Specifically, we're going

2:07

to the Seacrest diner. Now this is

2:09

a diner in Long Island. We're gonna

2:12

walk, we're gonna get our menus, we're

2:14

gonna sit down, and we're gonna start

2:16

off with a bit of light-heartedness because

2:18

this segment gets pretty rough really, really

2:20

fast, but I think it's an interesting

2:23

segment. But first off, let's do one

2:25

of my favorite things. I love reading,

2:27

I love reading reviews, I love reading

2:29

bad reviews online. So we're sitting down

2:31

at the Seacrest and we're looking through

2:34

the menu. Go ahead, order whatever you

2:36

want. Evan's paying for it. Evan's paying

2:38

for it with the Patriot donation. Go

2:40

ahead, order everything. But as you're eating

2:42

your, I don't order anything. As you're

2:44

eating your food, I'm going to read

2:47

you a couple of these reviews here

2:49

real quick. These are real reviews I

2:51

found on their yelp page or whatever

2:53

review site it was. went to have

2:55

coffee and dessert with family. And everything

2:58

we ordered was old, mold growing

3:00

on rice pudding, carrot cake dry

3:02

and stale, even chocolate ice cream

3:04

didn't taste right. Never going back

3:06

again. If I sat down, if

3:08

we're having dinner or something like

3:10

that, and I see that there's

3:12

mold growing on the rice pudding,

3:14

I'm not gonna go. Hmm, that's

3:16

disgusting. I wonder how this carrot

3:18

cake tastes. Oh, this is so

3:21

gross. Luckily, I have this bowl

3:23

of ice cream. This bowl of

3:25

ice cream must be delicious. Like,

3:27

the mold on the rice pudding,

3:29

right? You just quit eating. You

3:31

just quit eating at this point.

3:33

We gotta get the laughs in

3:35

now, because this next segment's rough.

3:37

I'm sorry you're on this episode,

3:39

Evan. Here we go, last review.

3:41

Old filthy wobbly chairs. Dirty rug

3:43

being swept as we ate. That's

3:45

all right. You taking a piece

3:47

of fried chicken. Dust is all

3:49

flying in your mouth. Dirty rug

3:52

being swept as we ate. Disgusting.

3:54

bathroom, menus were even greasy dirty,

3:56

the service just as bad. Okay,

3:58

so all of that stuff's going

4:00

on, right? You go, and the

4:02

chairs are wobbly, that'd actually be

4:04

kind of fun. Old filthy wobbly

4:06

chairs, the dirty rug is being,

4:08

at least you're sweeping it. Really,

4:10

but dirty rug being swept as

4:12

we ate, disgusting bathroom. Again, they're

4:14

like, what? This chair is horrible,

4:16

and this place is disgusting. I

4:18

know the one clean place in

4:21

this restaurant. I will go into

4:23

the lavatory. Of course, it's going

4:25

to be disgusting. The service was

4:27

bad, and then we get to

4:29

this is the best part. This

4:31

is the best part. Waitress has

4:33

pus on her face. Waiters had

4:35

pus on her face. They actually

4:37

all did. So basically every member

4:39

of the service staff had pus

4:41

on their face, like they just

4:43

hatched from some sort of cocoon

4:45

in the back. And then they

4:47

still ate the food. So after

4:49

all of that stuff, the wobbly

4:52

chairs, the stuff getting swept on

4:54

you, people with pus all over

4:56

their face. Then we have a

4:58

review of the actual food. Burn

5:00

hash browns, overdone eggs, French toast

5:02

was really just toast fried fried.

5:04

I don't know what that means.

5:06

We left feeling grossed out and

5:08

disgusted and the prices were not

5:10

worth the meal to exhumation points

5:12

So if they're all that you're

5:14

like man, you know what? Looking

5:16

back on it. I really got

5:18

overcharge from my French toast covered

5:21

in pus I shouldn't have paid

5:23

that much. I'm gonna go review

5:25

yel because I slowly transformed a

5:27

cocoon Okay, this next segment is

5:29

not funny at all. So we

5:31

want those are real reviews And

5:33

the Seacrest is a real restaurant,

5:35

but it's going to get dark

5:37

here, so I really kind of

5:39

want this whole episode is a

5:41

little just dark. But anyways, there

5:43

we go. The joy has now

5:45

left my body. It's just floated

5:47

away. Evan, we're going to snap

5:49

our fingers. We're going to go

5:52

back to the 1980s to kind

5:54

of get a sense of context

5:56

for the story. I was reading

5:58

this article recently. American Criminology. Marcus

6:00

Felsin. He's recently, he'd come up

6:02

with this theory a long time

6:04

ago, but he says he can

6:06

really look at it because of

6:08

the COVID lockdowns. He goes, when

6:10

we look at crime, we always

6:12

go, income disparity, where people are

6:14

at, you know, opportunities, broken window

6:16

theory, all this stuff. He goes,

6:18

I've always had a theory about

6:20

really what causes crime at a

6:23

root level. He goes, I've really

6:25

been able to see how it

6:27

works because for the first time

6:29

really ever, we've had mass amounts

6:31

of people locked down. He goes,

6:33

really, it comes down to three

6:35

things. A capable offender, a suitable

6:37

target, and the absence of an

6:39

appropriate guardian. So in other words,

6:41

a specific deterrent. Could be a

6:43

video camera, can be the guardian,

6:45

could be a police officer, it

6:47

could be a neighborhood watch, but

6:49

think about if you think the

6:52

video camera doesn't work. Or if

6:54

you think even if the video

6:56

camera does work or if someone

6:58

watches you do it, you won't

7:00

get in trouble for it. Petty

7:02

vandalism, skateboarding, things like that. Then

7:04

you do it. A capable offender,

7:06

a suitable target, absence of a

7:08

guardian. That is really what caught.

7:10

It's really kind of the base

7:12

level of where crime begins. And

7:14

I'm really, I mean, this is

7:16

like a 40 year long theory,

7:18

this guy's more work and I'm

7:20

really kind of breaking it down,

7:23

but that's what he's saying. He

7:25

goes, we saw. We saw. House

7:27

burglaries drop during the COVID-19 crisis

7:29

because everyone was home. You didn't

7:31

have suitable targets. But commercial burglaries

7:33

skyrocketed because people weren't at work.

7:35

He goes, you have the capable

7:37

offender, you had the thieves. The

7:39

target changed. He goes, you didn't

7:41

have people breaking in houses like

7:43

they used to because that was

7:45

no longer a suitable target. The

7:47

guardian was there, it was you.

7:49

So he goes, really, that's why

7:52

we saw massive reductions in crimes

7:54

in some areas and increases in

7:56

other domestic violence. We've seen an

7:58

increased one. And we haven't really

8:00

seen a lot of upticks yet,

8:02

but they're believing we're going to

8:04

see a huge uptick. in like

8:06

child abuse during this whole time.

8:08

Kids who used to go to

8:10

school and they'd be seen with

8:12

a black eye. I told you

8:14

this wasn't a great fun segment.

8:16

Kids who used to go to

8:18

school and see a black eye

8:20

or a chip tooth or something

8:23

like that and there were guardians

8:25

to say, hey, what's going on

8:27

man? It was absent now. So

8:29

we expect to see an unfortunately

8:31

increase in child sexual abuse, you

8:33

know, child violence towards children, things

8:35

like that. We've removed that guarding,

8:37

which is normally society, which is

8:39

teachers, peers, things like that. Kids

8:41

may never leave the house. We

8:43

have this intersection and I was

8:45

reading that article and I reminded

8:47

me of this story I'd come

8:49

across a couple months ago. I

8:52

had seen it on Reddit. I

8:54

had never ever heard of this

8:56

true crime story before. So I

8:58

want to give a shout out

9:00

to a Reddit username at Amatic

9:02

13 because again I've been a

9:04

big true crime fan for decades

9:06

and I've never heard of the

9:08

story before. Evan let's drive around

9:10

the Jason Jalapi. We're in New

9:12

York. It's May 28th and 1982.

9:14

It's Memorial Day weekend. It's Memorial

9:16

Day weekend. As we're driving, we

9:18

see a gang of youths. There's

9:20

five young men, they're ages 18

9:23

to 22, they're called the Sutter

9:25

Avenue Boys. They're a Brooklyn gang.

9:27

And whatever sparks in their head

9:29

to start this violent spree, it

9:31

doesn't end quickly. Flatbush Avenue. These

9:33

guys are driving down Flatbush Avenue.

9:35

They see this parking garage called

9:37

the patio garden garage. They pull

9:39

up. These five guys get out.

9:41

Beat up an attendant, beat up

9:43

the parking attendant. Then just... beat

9:45

up six other people who are

9:47

just standing around. They rob them.

9:49

They end up getting $2,400 in

9:52

cash. They get gold rings. And

9:54

they steal a car. They steal

9:56

a 1981 Cadillac. So they've upgraded

9:58

their vehicle. They drive away. They

10:00

see some cars parked on the

10:02

road in this nice neighborhood. Suitable

10:04

target. Capable offenders, obviously. They see

10:06

this row of cars out here.

10:08

And they go, well, we know

10:10

what that means. There's a bunch

10:12

of people in it. Now, that

10:14

would normally be a deterrent, right?

10:16

These guys are armed with a

10:18

rifle and a shotgun and a

10:20

couple black jacks, which are basically

10:23

like lead in a, it's basically

10:25

like a sap. It's like a,

10:27

even those are old terms. It's

10:29

basically lead in a cloth. It's

10:31

like a lead in a, like

10:33

a thick metal that you can

10:35

use to clobber people. Super painful,

10:37

it can kill you, getting hit

10:39

with a blackjack. Most criminals will

10:41

stay away from mass groups like

10:43

that, but they had already taken

10:45

on. Seven people. They took on

10:47

an attendant and six other people.

10:49

They got a Cadillac and all

10:51

this gold jewelry and they got

10:54

this cash. Let's go for a

10:56

bigger score. They roll up to

10:58

this party. What happened was this

11:00

family son had just come back

11:02

home from college. They're having a

11:04

party. It's 12 20 a.m. There's

11:06

22 people. The party's actually starting

11:08

to wind down. The Center Avenue

11:10

boys. One of the guy stays

11:12

in the car. The other four

11:14

go in at gunpoint. They take

11:16

over the party. First time. they're

11:18

beating people up. This time we've

11:20

seen escalation already within an hour

11:23

or two. The Center Avenue Boys

11:25

weren't a charitable organization before. They

11:27

were a street gang, but we

11:29

see a massive uptick in this

11:31

activity in just hours. First time

11:33

they beat a couple people up.

11:35

Now they go in there, they

11:37

start beating people up, but then

11:39

they order people to take their

11:41

clothes off. They begin... beating people

11:43

up they begin making them strip

11:45

and then the Sutter Avenue boys

11:47

rape a woman there and then

11:49

after they're done raping this woman

11:51

they pee on the people it

11:54

seems almost juvenile I mean I

11:56

understand why they're doing it it's

11:58

to completely just dehumanize these people

12:00

that they brutalized for a period

12:02

of time but they pee on

12:04

them they leave but that's not

12:06

even the worst that's going to

12:08

happen that night they drive out

12:10

to the Seacrest diner And as

12:12

they're driving by, they see the

12:14

most suitable target yet. It has

12:16

no window. It's a restaurant, it's

12:18

about 1220 a.m., no windows. Brutalized

12:20

six people, brutalized 22 people, when

12:23

they walk into the sea crest

12:25

with guns ready, there's more than

12:27

80 people in this restaurant. What

12:29

happened at the sea crest for

12:31

about an hour and a half?

12:33

The only people who really know

12:35

for sure are the assailants and

12:37

the people in there. Because people

12:39

don't like to talk about it.

12:41

This level of inhumanity in such

12:43

recent times in America, I mean

12:45

we've had like cold stew weird

12:47

stuff, but I was shocked at

12:49

this store, I mean this happened

12:51

in 1982, this happened in my

12:54

lifetime. It's been pretty much forgotten.

12:56

I wouldn't necessarily say covered up,

12:58

but this gang goes into this

13:00

restaurant. These five guys walk in

13:02

with guns begin robbing people. They

13:04

rape a waitress. And then, they

13:06

begin ordering people to rape each

13:08

other. They had to shoot two

13:10

people because two people completely resisted.

13:12

They were like, we're not going

13:14

to do this. So the Center

13:16

Avenue boys just shot them. Continued

13:18

beating people up and ordering people

13:20

to rape each other. I mean,

13:23

that's inhumane. We don't know the

13:25

full scope of what happened at

13:27

the Secrest Dinar because... When they

13:29

left about an hour later, the

13:31

cops were called. And when the

13:33

cops got there, a bunch of

13:35

the victims just left. They just

13:37

went home. They didn't want to

13:39

talk about it. They didn't want

13:41

to testify. They didn't want to

13:43

think about it in any way,

13:45

shape, or form. They just went

13:47

home. There was always rumors about

13:49

the scope of the brutality. Rumors

13:51

about forced incest. People didn't want

13:54

to talk about it. These

13:56

guys got arrested the next day

13:58

and And you still had people

14:00

who just never came forward. There's

14:02

a quote from John Nolan. He

14:04

was a senior detective on the

14:06

robbery squad. He got called out

14:08

to this because it was a

14:10

basically the equivalent of a mass

14:12

shooting. You had a mass casualty

14:15

event. Even though just two people

14:17

were shot, they both survived. You

14:19

couldn't even, I can't even really

14:21

imagine that happening outside. And it's

14:23

horrible when it happens there too,

14:25

but outside of like a war-torn

14:27

country. Here's this quote. describing this

14:29

woman he saw at the crime

14:31

scene. Quote, she was wearing a

14:33

light-colored blouse in a dark skirt.

14:35

Her arms folded from shoulder to

14:37

shoulder as if to protect her

14:39

breasts. She reminded me of all

14:41

the pictures I had seen of

14:43

people from concentration camps who had

14:46

lost all hope. Her face spoke

14:48

volumes. There was sadness in her

14:50

eyes. She had very dark circles

14:52

around her eyes that contrasted with

14:54

her white skin. She obviously had

14:56

not slept slept. I thought how

14:58

tragic it must have been for

15:00

her and how tragic it still

15:02

must be." These guys were charged

15:04

with 800 counts of attempted murder,

15:06

rape, assault, robbery. Each of them

15:08

got sentenced, they were all arrested

15:10

the next day, each of them

15:12

got sentenced to 3,000 years in

15:15

jail, which sounds great, right? Two

15:17

of them are already free. So

15:19

one of the guys was released

15:21

in 2002, because this is the

15:23

way American justice system works. You

15:25

usually get a really big penalty

15:27

and then there's some changes in

15:29

judges and there's some changes in

15:31

procedures and policies and things like

15:33

that and people and time passes

15:35

and someone goes, oh I don't

15:37

remember that. I maybe read a

15:39

headline sometime back in the day.

15:41

Oh yeah, you're paroled. Was released

15:44

in 2002. We had another one

15:46

released in 2010. You have those

15:48

two and then two other of

15:50

them they got life because they

15:52

were connected to an earlier murder

15:54

That wasn't related to that rampage.

15:56

They had murdered someone before this.

15:58

This wasn't the get along gang

16:00

right? they're already up to no

16:02

good. And then you have one

16:04

more guy who is, actually I

16:06

couldn't find any information on him.

16:08

I couldn't tell whether he was

16:10

released or not, because there's really

16:13

not a lot of follow-up. The

16:15

big news story was back in

16:17

2002, when the first guy got

16:19

released in 2002, it was a

16:21

big news story, because it was

16:23

like the 30-year anniversary, it was

16:25

that year, and people were like,

16:27

what? That restaurant's still there.

16:29

People are still leaving bad reviews

16:31

on it. And I wanted to

16:34

read those funny reviews to kind

16:36

of kind of It's such a

16:38

dark story because again you When

16:40

I was reading about it. I

16:42

thought this is like something you'd

16:44

see in like a movie like

16:46

a really messed up movie and

16:48

I guess even though like I

16:51

read a lot of true crime

16:53

and definitely read a lot of

16:55

conspiracy stuff sometimes it like you

16:57

sometimes Stuff still shocks me. Like

16:59

I've read some really weird true

17:01

crime stuff, but I'm like, it's

17:03

just shocking. I'm shocking one that

17:05

had happened. It's shocking too that

17:08

it happened so recent really in

17:10

my lifetime. And then memories just

17:12

have faded. The people who this

17:14

happened to are still around. I

17:16

mean, this wasn't a long time

17:18

ago. There are people who were

17:20

suffering from this. are still around

17:23

and then these guys are walking

17:25

around free and I don't know

17:27

it's so bizarre I found the

17:29

whole thing so bizarre I don't

17:31

have like a proper like dead

17:33

rabbit radio ending for it I

17:35

actually thought about reading the reviews

17:37

after the story but then I

17:40

thought that's no that's not a

17:42

good wrap up you got to

17:44

do the stories before because then

17:46

afterwards you don't want to hear

17:48

any jokes about moldy rice pudding

17:50

just kind of want to leave

17:52

the sea crest leave it all

17:54

behind but That's it. I'm just

17:57

going to shrug my shoulders. Bazaar,

17:59

true crime story that happened within

18:01

my life. time. It's very likely

18:03

it happened within your lifetime too.

18:05

And that's it. That's it. I've

18:07

just kind of, I've just kind

18:09

of put my menu down and

18:11

kind of. Sigh. Just kind of

18:14

sigh and I go, Evan, pay

18:16

the tab. Let's leave Seacrest's diner.

18:18

I just wanted to talk about

18:20

that just completely dark story of

18:22

true crime. We are leaving the

18:24

Seacrest. Let's get a little more

18:26

upbeat here. We're leaving behind the

18:28

Seacrest. I hope. You know, all

18:31

those people who suffered from that

18:33

are finding peace now. Let's open

18:35

the carbonicopter, Evan. We are headed

18:37

out to the Gava Estonia. Helicopters

18:39

leaving behind the sea crest. There's

18:41

pus-faced waitresses chasing us. One of

18:43

us. One of us! One of

18:45

us! Flying away. And I'm like,

18:48

phew. Good thing we got away

18:50

from them. Now, Joyce, I'm delicious

18:52

rice pudding! There's a little waitress

18:54

face in it going, what a

18:56

boss! One of us! But I'm

18:58

kind of hungry, so I take

19:00

it by it anyways. We're leaving

19:02

behind that whole story. We're headed

19:05

out to Dagava, Estonia. It's August

19:07

1999. It's evening time. Helicopters flying

19:09

low over the valley. There's a

19:11

man named Anton Zilgalvas. He's a

19:13

journalist, he's just going for a

19:15

walk, right? He's walking along the

19:17

coastline, skipping stones like Splinter. If

19:19

you get that reference, dude, you're

19:22

my best friend. He's skipping stones.

19:24

And... I remember I had that

19:26

album. I play that album all

19:28

the time, dude. Anton is skipping

19:30

stones. He's walking around. He sees

19:32

a meadow. He's a meadow. He's

19:34

a meadow. He's a meadow. He's

19:36

a meadow. And in the meadow

19:39

he sees this egg-shaped object, some

19:41

metallic object just sitting there, little

19:43

landing, leggy things, you know, just

19:45

like on the ground. He walks

19:47

up to it. He knows exactly

19:49

what it is, obviously. He goes,

19:51

that is not a... of one

19:53

of my countrymen. That's obviously a

19:56

UFO. So he starts going, hey

19:58

guys, guys. And the egg is

20:00

just sitting there. It's big. It's

20:02

not like just a chicken egg.

20:04

It's not a tiny chicken egg.

20:06

He's like, guys, guys. He's kind

20:08

of waving his arms. Guys, open

20:10

up. I want to see you

20:13

guys. He starts calling out for

20:15

what he refers to as the

20:17

brothers of intellect. Brothers of intellect.

20:19

Please, all these other people are

20:21

stupid, but you and me were

20:23

smart! Door opens up. In outcome,

20:25

these three tall, what he describes

20:27

as humanoid aliens, with silvery coverals.

20:30

I'm thinking they're Nordics, which are

20:32

generally the blonde-haired blue-eyed aliens. That

20:34

kind of fits their description more

20:36

than it. Generally, people go, oh,

20:38

as a reptilian. or gray but

20:40

generally when they refer to it's

20:42

just humanoids it's usually what's called

20:44

a Nordic alien these three tall

20:47

aliens come out they're wearing silvery

20:49

cover rolls they start walking out

20:51

to him and he's like oh

20:53

yeah dude yeah me and you

20:55

do we're both brothers of intellect

20:57

dude yeah but maybe I'm a

20:59

little more intellectual than you but

21:02

I guess we'll find out and

21:04

as he's talking they point a

21:06

silver stick at him and they

21:08

shoot him and he's and he

21:10

gets paralyzed and they take him

21:12

on the ship. Now at this

21:14

point he's probably thinking, probably, you

21:16

know, I did offer to just

21:19

come on the ship. Probably didn't

21:21

have to be paralyzed, but you

21:23

know, when in Rome? When in

21:25

Romula 7? So they take him

21:27

aboard the spaceship. Pzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz And he's

21:29

probably like, oh dude, this is

21:31

so dope, am I going to

21:33

go to like to the moon?

21:36

And we're going to end up

21:38

on their alien planet, maybe fall

21:40

in love with some hot alien

21:42

space, babe. And then it goes,

21:44

and it lands in the caucus

21:46

mountains. And he's like, oh man,

21:48

it lands and the door. opens

21:50

up and he is allowed to

21:53

leave so he's not paralyzed anymore

21:55

and he's walking around and he

21:57

says he thought it was a

21:59

caucus mountains because he kind of

22:01

recognized the geography kind of looking

22:03

it kind of looks similar to

22:05

them and he sees all these

22:07

other it doesn't necessarily say they're

22:10

they're the more egg-shaped vehicles he

22:12

just says he sees more what

22:14

he refers to his object so

22:16

they could be more of the

22:18

egg-shaped things could be something else

22:20

but he sees a lot of

22:22

these tall, silvery, clad aliens walking

22:24

in and out of these objects.

22:27

And he's kind of standing there.

22:29

And then one of them walks

22:31

up to him. He's like, hey,

22:33

so are you the brother of

22:35

intellect who's like going to be

22:37

hanging out with me? Are you

22:39

the tour guy? Or like, what's

22:41

going on? Where's that hot space

22:44

babe? I was imagining. And at

22:46

that point, the alien pulls out

22:48

what's described as a corkscrew and

22:50

begins to dig it into Anton's

22:52

head. He

22:55

then goes through what he calls

22:57

extraterrestrial experimentation. We're not for sure

22:59

exactly what that is. I mean,

23:01

I guess the corkscrew being put

23:03

through your head was probably test

23:05

number one. Do humans feel pain?

23:07

Yes, extreme pain when corkscrew enters

23:09

the rain. We don't know the

23:12

full scope of it, but what

23:14

we do know is he is

23:16

take after this alien experimentation. He

23:18

leaves behind the caucus region. He's

23:20

put back in this egg thing,

23:22

he's dropped back off at Dag

23:24

of Alastonia. I imagine they drop

23:26

off with a little bandaid on

23:28

his forehead. He's like, oh, I

23:30

think I'm gonna need more than

23:33

a bandaid. And they're like, no,

23:35

that's the only thing they say

23:37

to him the whole time. The

23:39

rest of the time they're super

23:41

silent, they're just like drilling him

23:43

with stuff. It's like, oh, come

23:45

on, man, I have a splitting

23:47

headache, I can pretty sure. He

23:49

was like, this thing was like

23:51

sitting in the middle of nowhere,

23:54

he was walking down the coast,

23:56

skipping stones, and he saw it.

23:58

Like he was pretty much invisible.

24:00

to this thing, much like the

24:02

shredder is when he's sneaking up

24:04

on the Ninja Turtles. He was

24:06

the one who started yelling, hey

24:08

guy, hey alien, he's spaceship, come

24:10

over here, I want to talk

24:12

to you guys. The reason why

24:15

I want to point that out,

24:17

not saying like this guy deserves

24:19

what happens to him, I'm not

24:21

saying that at all, but it's

24:23

one of those things I, when

24:25

I was researching this story, I

24:27

put everything in a file, and

24:29

this file was called careful what

24:31

you wish for. After he gets

24:33

dropped off shortly after he gets

24:36

dropped off. He's like, oh man,

24:38

better go home and change my

24:40

band's hat. It's like brain fluid

24:42

is leaking out of it. Shortly

24:44

after he's dropped off, he comes

24:46

down with a mysterious illness. We

24:48

don't have any details of what

24:50

the illness actually is. This information

24:52

I got from think about at

24:54

docs.com, and they got it from

24:57

something called N.O. No. 44, was

24:59

there November, December, December issue, 1999.

25:01

With a mysterious illness an unknown

25:03

disease is the term actually used

25:05

in the write-up and within three

25:07

months he was dead Now it's

25:09

possible that You know, maybe he

25:11

was allergic to skipping rocks. Maybe

25:13

he has that horrible illness that

25:15

if he skipped more than three

25:18

rocks in a day, he's gonna

25:20

die in three months It's possible.

25:22

That's not possible right with it.

25:24

But it's possible that he had

25:26

a mysterious illness anyways, anyways, and

25:28

that's what killed him You know,

25:30

it could just be a coincidence

25:32

that he was subjected to paralysis

25:34

rays and corkscrews in the brain

25:36

and alien experimentation and then dice

25:38

three months later, could be a

25:41

coincidence. But what I think is

25:43

interesting about the story, and that's

25:45

horrible that the guy died. I'm

25:47

not like that, but what I

25:49

find interesting about the story is

25:51

there's been a theory going on

25:53

for a long time in UFOology.

25:55

We've talked about it a couple

25:57

times on this show that aliens

25:59

appear... Only to certain people like

26:02

UFOs are just something that's seen

26:04

in the sky, but actual like

26:06

contact ease Aliens choose you. It's

26:08

not like I'm walking through the

26:10

forest and I see a deer.

26:12

The deer is going to be

26:14

seen by anyone walking through the

26:16

forest. An alien only presents themselves

26:18

or abducts people who meet specific

26:20

factors. That's been a theory that's

26:23

been bandied around for a long

26:25

time. Aliens? There's always been that

26:27

thing that they may only appear

26:29

to certain people. And we've covered

26:31

that a couple times. What if

26:33

this is why? See, the UFO

26:35

wasn't there to meet. They're actually

26:37

mind on their own business hanging

26:39

out in their egg. Testing out

26:41

new corstries on each other? And

26:44

this guy, this guy who wasn't

26:46

supposed to be abducted by aliens,

26:48

starts making a big brew ha

26:50

ha ha outside. His aliens are

26:52

looking at each other and they're

26:54

like can you scan that dude

26:56

and find out if we're supposed

26:58

to abduct him or something? They're

27:00

like no, he's a nobody's He

27:02

keeps yelling about brothers of intellect.

27:05

He's gonna just draw a bunch

27:07

of attention They're like, I don't

27:09

know should we just abduct should

27:11

we just abduct this guy? I

27:13

don't know. We're not supposed to

27:15

but I guess he keeps saying

27:17

he's smart as we are Well

27:19

show him a corksker to the

27:21

brain. We'll show him how smart

27:23

he is What if being abducted

27:26

by aliens, and you're not supposed

27:28

to be abducted by aliens, or

27:30

having a visitation with aliens, and

27:32

you're not on the guest list,

27:34

has horrible consequences like that? Maybe

27:36

the reason why I don't see

27:38

aliens, like I've seen ghosts and

27:40

demons and stuff like that, cryptids

27:42

and all sorts of stuff. I've

27:44

never seen aliens. Maybe because they

27:47

don't, like if I see them,

27:49

something, something's gone wrong. Like I'm

27:51

not on the guest list. I

27:53

don't get to go on the

27:55

VIP to the VIP room, the

27:57

VIP room, the VIP room, the

27:59

VIP room. I'm not on that

28:01

list. Maybe you're not on that

28:03

list either. We can all see

28:05

a ghost. You can all see

28:08

a krypton. But you might have

28:10

to have a special genetic makeup

28:12

to actually go face to face

28:14

with an alien. If that's the

28:16

case, that may be another reason

28:18

why alien... can't do full disclosure.

28:20

Could it be something as simple

28:22

as what we already know to

28:24

be true here on Earth. When

28:26

two different cultures meet that are

28:29

separated by oceans, it's very very

28:31

likely, if not guaranteed, that there

28:33

will be a disease communicated between

28:35

the two cultures that will kill

28:37

one if not both. Aliens may

28:39

not be able to come down

28:41

and visit us. In mass, because

28:43

they may kill us within three

28:45

months. Cork screw to the head

28:47

or not. There could be something

28:49

that they know about. That when

28:52

they visit us, if we do

28:54

not have the right genetic makeup,

28:56

it will kill us. So they

28:58

scan everything as they're flying by.

29:00

When they look for someone to

29:02

abduct, when they look for someone

29:04

to communicate with, he can survive

29:06

if he meets with me meets

29:08

with us. She can't. It would

29:10

be a terrifying ending to a

29:13

story of first contact if someday

29:15

UFOs do appear over major cities.

29:17

Their leaders land begin talking to

29:19

our leaders. Begin exchanging information. Begin

29:21

exchanging technology. And three months later,

29:23

90% of the world's population is

29:25

dead. The remaining humans would ask

29:27

the aliens if you knew this

29:29

was going to happen. Why did

29:31

you come down? If you knew

29:34

that you carried a disease that

29:36

would kill most humans, why did

29:38

you appear? The aliens would just

29:40

go, you've been asking for disclosure

29:42

for so long. You've been looking

29:44

up with the sky for so

29:46

long and begging for us to

29:48

reveal ourselves. You said you were

29:50

our brothers of intellect. We tried

29:52

to stay hidden, but you just

29:55

kept looking for us. This is

29:57

the future you chose the future

29:59

you chose. That's when the aliens

30:01

get back on. their ships and

30:03

fly back out far away from

30:05

human eyes, leaving us to rebuild

30:07

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30:09

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