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everyone welcome back to another episode
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Jason Carpenter I'm having a great day I
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Evan Let's go ahead and talk to the keys
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to the Jason Jalapi. We're gonna take a long
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car ride. We are leaving behind Oregon, we're
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headed up to New York. Ding-ling, ding-ling,
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that's the door as we're opening to
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go into the diner. Specifically, we're going
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to the Seacrest diner. Now this is
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a diner in Long Island. We're gonna
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walk, we're gonna get our menus, we're
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gonna sit down, and we're gonna start
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off with a bit of light-heartedness because
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this segment gets pretty rough really, really
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fast, but I think it's an interesting
2:23
segment. But first off, let's do one
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of my favorite things. I love reading,
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I love reading reviews, I love reading
2:29
bad reviews online. So we're sitting down
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at the Seacrest and we're looking through
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the menu. Go ahead, order whatever you
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want. Evan's paying for it. Evan's paying
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for it with the Patriot donation. Go
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ahead, order everything. But as you're eating
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your, I don't order anything. As you're
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eating your food, I'm going to read
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you a couple of these reviews here
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real quick. These are real reviews I
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found on their yelp page or whatever
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review site it was. went to have
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coffee and dessert with family. And everything
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we ordered was old, mold growing
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on rice pudding, carrot cake dry
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and stale, even chocolate ice cream
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didn't taste right. Never going back
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again. If I sat down, if
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we're having dinner or something like
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that, and I see that there's
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mold growing on the rice pudding,
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I'm not gonna go. Hmm, that's
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disgusting. I wonder how this carrot
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cake tastes. Oh, this is so
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gross. Luckily, I have this bowl
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of ice cream. This bowl of
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ice cream must be delicious. Like,
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the mold on the rice pudding,
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right? You just quit eating. You
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just quit eating at this point.
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We gotta get the laughs in
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now, because this next segment's rough.
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I'm sorry you're on this episode,
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Evan. Here we go, last review.
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Old filthy wobbly chairs. Dirty rug
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being swept as we ate. That's
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all right. You taking a piece
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of fried chicken. Dust is all
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flying in your mouth. Dirty rug
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being swept as we ate. Disgusting.
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bathroom, menus were even greasy dirty,
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the service just as bad. Okay,
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so all of that stuff's going
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on, right? You go, and the
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chairs are wobbly, that'd actually be
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kind of fun. Old filthy wobbly
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chairs, the dirty rug is being,
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at least you're sweeping it. Really,
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but dirty rug being swept as
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we ate, disgusting bathroom. Again, they're
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like, what? This chair is horrible,
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and this place is disgusting. I
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know the one clean place in
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this restaurant. I will go into
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the lavatory. Of course, it's going
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to be disgusting. The service was
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bad, and then we get to
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this is the best part. This
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is the best part. Waitress has
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pus on her face. Waiters had
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pus on her face. They actually
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all did. So basically every member
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of the service staff had pus
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on their face, like they just
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hatched from some sort of cocoon
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in the back. And then they
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still ate the food. So after
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all of that stuff, the wobbly
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chairs, the stuff getting swept on
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you, people with pus all over
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their face. Then we have a
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review of the actual food. Burn
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hash browns, overdone eggs, French toast
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was really just toast fried fried.
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I don't know what that means.
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We left feeling grossed out and
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disgusted and the prices were not
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worth the meal to exhumation points
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So if they're all that you're
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like man, you know what? Looking
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back on it. I really got
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overcharge from my French toast covered
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in pus I shouldn't have paid
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that much. I'm gonna go review
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yel because I slowly transformed a
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cocoon Okay, this next segment is
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not funny at all. So we
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want those are real reviews And
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the Seacrest is a real restaurant,
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but it's going to get dark
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here, so I really kind of
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want this whole episode is a
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little just dark. But anyways, there
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we go. The joy has now
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left my body. It's just floated
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away. Evan, we're going to snap
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our fingers. We're going to go
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back to the 1980s to kind
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of get a sense of context
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for the story. I was reading
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this article recently. American Criminology. Marcus
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Felsin. He's recently, he'd come up
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with this theory a long time
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ago, but he says he can
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really look at it because of
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the COVID lockdowns. He goes, when
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we look at crime, we always
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go, income disparity, where people are
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at, you know, opportunities, broken window
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theory, all this stuff. He goes,
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I've always had a theory about
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really what causes crime at a
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root level. He goes, I've really
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been able to see how it
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works because for the first time
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really ever, we've had mass amounts
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of people locked down. He goes,
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really, it comes down to three
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things. A capable offender, a suitable
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target, and the absence of an
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appropriate guardian. So in other words,
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a specific deterrent. Could be a
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video camera, can be the guardian,
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could be a police officer, it
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could be a neighborhood watch, but
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think about if you think the
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video camera doesn't work. Or if
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you think even if the video
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camera does work or if someone
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watches you do it, you won't
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get in trouble for it. Petty
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vandalism, skateboarding, things like that. Then
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you do it. A capable offender,
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a suitable target, absence of a
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guardian. That is really what caught.
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It's really kind of the base
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level of where crime begins. And
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I'm really, I mean, this is
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like a 40 year long theory,
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this guy's more work and I'm
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really kind of breaking it down,
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but that's what he's saying. He
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goes, we saw. We saw. House
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burglaries drop during the COVID-19 crisis
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because everyone was home. You didn't
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have suitable targets. But commercial burglaries
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skyrocketed because people weren't at work.
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He goes, you have the capable
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offender, you had the thieves. The
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target changed. He goes, you didn't
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have people breaking in houses like
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they used to because that was
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no longer a suitable target. The
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guardian was there, it was you.
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So he goes, really, that's why
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we saw massive reductions in crimes
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in some areas and increases in
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other domestic violence. We've seen an
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increased one. And we haven't really
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seen a lot of upticks yet,
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but they're believing we're going to
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see a huge uptick. in like
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child abuse during this whole time.
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Kids who used to go to
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school and they'd be seen with
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a black eye. I told you
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this wasn't a great fun segment.
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Kids who used to go to
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school and see a black eye
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or a chip tooth or something
8:23
like that and there were guardians
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to say, hey, what's going on
8:27
man? It was absent now. So
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we expect to see an unfortunately
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increase in child sexual abuse, you
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know, child violence towards children, things
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like that. We've removed that guarding,
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which is normally society, which is
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teachers, peers, things like that. Kids
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may never leave the house. We
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have this intersection and I was
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reading that article and I reminded
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me of this story I'd come
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across a couple months ago. I
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had seen it on Reddit. I
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had never ever heard of this
8:56
true crime story before. So I
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want to give a shout out
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to a Reddit username at Amatic
9:02
13 because again I've been a
9:04
big true crime fan for decades
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and I've never heard of the
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story before. Evan let's drive around
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the Jason Jalapi. We're in New
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York. It's May 28th and 1982.
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It's Memorial Day weekend. It's Memorial
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Day weekend. As we're driving, we
9:18
see a gang of youths. There's
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five young men, they're ages 18
9:23
to 22, they're called the Sutter
9:25
Avenue Boys. They're a Brooklyn gang.
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And whatever sparks in their head
9:29
to start this violent spree, it
9:31
doesn't end quickly. Flatbush Avenue. These
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guys are driving down Flatbush Avenue.
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They see this parking garage called
9:37
the patio garden garage. They pull
9:39
up. These five guys get out.
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Beat up an attendant, beat up
9:43
the parking attendant. Then just... beat
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up six other people who are
9:47
just standing around. They rob them.
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They end up getting $2,400 in
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cash. They get gold rings. And
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they steal a car. They steal
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a 1981 Cadillac. So they've upgraded
9:58
their vehicle. They drive away. They
10:00
see some cars parked on the
10:02
road in this nice neighborhood. Suitable
10:04
target. Capable offenders, obviously. They see
10:06
this row of cars out here.
10:08
And they go, well, we know
10:10
what that means. There's a bunch
10:12
of people in it. Now, that
10:14
would normally be a deterrent, right?
10:16
These guys are armed with a
10:18
rifle and a shotgun and a
10:20
couple black jacks, which are basically
10:23
like lead in a, it's basically
10:25
like a sap. It's like a,
10:27
even those are old terms. It's
10:29
basically lead in a cloth. It's
10:31
like a lead in a, like
10:33
a thick metal that you can
10:35
use to clobber people. Super painful,
10:37
it can kill you, getting hit
10:39
with a blackjack. Most criminals will
10:41
stay away from mass groups like
10:43
that, but they had already taken
10:45
on. Seven people. They took on
10:47
an attendant and six other people.
10:49
They got a Cadillac and all
10:51
this gold jewelry and they got
10:54
this cash. Let's go for a
10:56
bigger score. They roll up to
10:58
this party. What happened was this
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family son had just come back
11:02
home from college. They're having a
11:04
party. It's 12 20 a.m. There's
11:06
22 people. The party's actually starting
11:08
to wind down. The Center Avenue
11:10
boys. One of the guy stays
11:12
in the car. The other four
11:14
go in at gunpoint. They take
11:16
over the party. First time. they're
11:18
beating people up. This time we've
11:20
seen escalation already within an hour
11:23
or two. The Center Avenue Boys
11:25
weren't a charitable organization before. They
11:27
were a street gang, but we
11:29
see a massive uptick in this
11:31
activity in just hours. First time
11:33
they beat a couple people up.
11:35
Now they go in there, they
11:37
start beating people up, but then
11:39
they order people to take their
11:41
clothes off. They begin... beating people
11:43
up they begin making them strip
11:45
and then the Sutter Avenue boys
11:47
rape a woman there and then
11:49
after they're done raping this woman
11:51
they pee on the people it
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seems almost juvenile I mean I
11:56
understand why they're doing it it's
11:58
to completely just dehumanize these people
12:00
that they brutalized for a period
12:02
of time but they pee on
12:04
them they leave but that's not
12:06
even the worst that's going to
12:08
happen that night they drive out
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to the Seacrest diner And as
12:12
they're driving by, they see the
12:14
most suitable target yet. It has
12:16
no window. It's a restaurant, it's
12:18
about 1220 a.m., no windows. Brutalized
12:20
six people, brutalized 22 people, when
12:23
they walk into the sea crest
12:25
with guns ready, there's more than
12:27
80 people in this restaurant. What
12:29
happened at the sea crest for
12:31
about an hour and a half?
12:33
The only people who really know
12:35
for sure are the assailants and
12:37
the people in there. Because people
12:39
don't like to talk about it.
12:41
This level of inhumanity in such
12:43
recent times in America, I mean
12:45
we've had like cold stew weird
12:47
stuff, but I was shocked at
12:49
this store, I mean this happened
12:51
in 1982, this happened in my
12:54
lifetime. It's been pretty much forgotten.
12:56
I wouldn't necessarily say covered up,
12:58
but this gang goes into this
13:00
restaurant. These five guys walk in
13:02
with guns begin robbing people. They
13:04
rape a waitress. And then, they
13:06
begin ordering people to rape each
13:08
other. They had to shoot two
13:10
people because two people completely resisted.
13:12
They were like, we're not going
13:14
to do this. So the Center
13:16
Avenue boys just shot them. Continued
13:18
beating people up and ordering people
13:20
to rape each other. I mean,
13:23
that's inhumane. We don't know the
13:25
full scope of what happened at
13:27
the Secrest Dinar because... When they
13:29
left about an hour later, the
13:31
cops were called. And when the
13:33
cops got there, a bunch of
13:35
the victims just left. They just
13:37
went home. They didn't want to
13:39
talk about it. They didn't want
13:41
to testify. They didn't want to
13:43
think about it in any way,
13:45
shape, or form. They just went
13:47
home. There was always rumors about
13:49
the scope of the brutality. Rumors
13:51
about forced incest. People didn't want
13:54
to talk about it. These
13:56
guys got arrested the next day
13:58
and And you still had people
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who just never came forward. There's
14:02
a quote from John Nolan. He
14:04
was a senior detective on the
14:06
robbery squad. He got called out
14:08
to this because it was a
14:10
basically the equivalent of a mass
14:12
shooting. You had a mass casualty
14:15
event. Even though just two people
14:17
were shot, they both survived. You
14:19
couldn't even, I can't even really
14:21
imagine that happening outside. And it's
14:23
horrible when it happens there too,
14:25
but outside of like a war-torn
14:27
country. Here's this quote. describing this
14:29
woman he saw at the crime
14:31
scene. Quote, she was wearing a
14:33
light-colored blouse in a dark skirt.
14:35
Her arms folded from shoulder to
14:37
shoulder as if to protect her
14:39
breasts. She reminded me of all
14:41
the pictures I had seen of
14:43
people from concentration camps who had
14:46
lost all hope. Her face spoke
14:48
volumes. There was sadness in her
14:50
eyes. She had very dark circles
14:52
around her eyes that contrasted with
14:54
her white skin. She obviously had
14:56
not slept slept. I thought how
14:58
tragic it must have been for
15:00
her and how tragic it still
15:02
must be." These guys were charged
15:04
with 800 counts of attempted murder,
15:06
rape, assault, robbery. Each of them
15:08
got sentenced, they were all arrested
15:10
the next day, each of them
15:12
got sentenced to 3,000 years in
15:15
jail, which sounds great, right? Two
15:17
of them are already free. So
15:19
one of the guys was released
15:21
in 2002, because this is the
15:23
way American justice system works. You
15:25
usually get a really big penalty
15:27
and then there's some changes in
15:29
judges and there's some changes in
15:31
procedures and policies and things like
15:33
that and people and time passes
15:35
and someone goes, oh I don't
15:37
remember that. I maybe read a
15:39
headline sometime back in the day.
15:41
Oh yeah, you're paroled. Was released
15:44
in 2002. We had another one
15:46
released in 2010. You have those
15:48
two and then two other of
15:50
them they got life because they
15:52
were connected to an earlier murder
15:54
That wasn't related to that rampage.
15:56
They had murdered someone before this.
15:58
This wasn't the get along gang
16:00
right? they're already up to no
16:02
good. And then you have one
16:04
more guy who is, actually I
16:06
couldn't find any information on him.
16:08
I couldn't tell whether he was
16:10
released or not, because there's really
16:13
not a lot of follow-up. The
16:15
big news story was back in
16:17
2002, when the first guy got
16:19
released in 2002, it was a
16:21
big news story, because it was
16:23
like the 30-year anniversary, it was
16:25
that year, and people were like,
16:27
what? That restaurant's still there.
16:29
People are still leaving bad reviews
16:31
on it. And I wanted to
16:34
read those funny reviews to kind
16:36
of kind of It's such a
16:38
dark story because again you When
16:40
I was reading about it. I
16:42
thought this is like something you'd
16:44
see in like a movie like
16:46
a really messed up movie and
16:48
I guess even though like I
16:51
read a lot of true crime
16:53
and definitely read a lot of
16:55
conspiracy stuff sometimes it like you
16:57
sometimes Stuff still shocks me. Like
16:59
I've read some really weird true
17:01
crime stuff, but I'm like, it's
17:03
just shocking. I'm shocking one that
17:05
had happened. It's shocking too that
17:08
it happened so recent really in
17:10
my lifetime. And then memories just
17:12
have faded. The people who this
17:14
happened to are still around. I
17:16
mean, this wasn't a long time
17:18
ago. There are people who were
17:20
suffering from this. are still around
17:23
and then these guys are walking
17:25
around free and I don't know
17:27
it's so bizarre I found the
17:29
whole thing so bizarre I don't
17:31
have like a proper like dead
17:33
rabbit radio ending for it I
17:35
actually thought about reading the reviews
17:37
after the story but then I
17:40
thought that's no that's not a
17:42
good wrap up you got to
17:44
do the stories before because then
17:46
afterwards you don't want to hear
17:48
any jokes about moldy rice pudding
17:50
just kind of want to leave
17:52
the sea crest leave it all
17:54
behind but That's it. I'm just
17:57
going to shrug my shoulders. Bazaar,
17:59
true crime story that happened within
18:01
my life. time. It's very likely
18:03
it happened within your lifetime too.
18:05
And that's it. That's it. I've
18:07
just kind of, I've just kind
18:09
of put my menu down and
18:11
kind of. Sigh. Just kind of
18:14
sigh and I go, Evan, pay
18:16
the tab. Let's leave Seacrest's diner.
18:18
I just wanted to talk about
18:20
that just completely dark story of
18:22
true crime. We are leaving the
18:24
Seacrest. Let's get a little more
18:26
upbeat here. We're leaving behind the
18:28
Seacrest. I hope. You know, all
18:31
those people who suffered from that
18:33
are finding peace now. Let's open
18:35
the carbonicopter, Evan. We are headed
18:37
out to the Gava Estonia. Helicopters
18:39
leaving behind the sea crest. There's
18:41
pus-faced waitresses chasing us. One of
18:43
us. One of us! One of
18:45
us! Flying away. And I'm like,
18:48
phew. Good thing we got away
18:50
from them. Now, Joyce, I'm delicious
18:52
rice pudding! There's a little waitress
18:54
face in it going, what a
18:56
boss! One of us! But I'm
18:58
kind of hungry, so I take
19:00
it by it anyways. We're leaving
19:02
behind that whole story. We're headed
19:05
out to Dagava, Estonia. It's August
19:07
1999. It's evening time. Helicopters flying
19:09
low over the valley. There's a
19:11
man named Anton Zilgalvas. He's a
19:13
journalist, he's just going for a
19:15
walk, right? He's walking along the
19:17
coastline, skipping stones like Splinter. If
19:19
you get that reference, dude, you're
19:22
my best friend. He's skipping stones.
19:24
And... I remember I had that
19:26
album. I play that album all
19:28
the time, dude. Anton is skipping
19:30
stones. He's walking around. He sees
19:32
a meadow. He's a meadow. He's
19:34
a meadow. He's a meadow. He's
19:36
a meadow. And in the meadow
19:39
he sees this egg-shaped object, some
19:41
metallic object just sitting there, little
19:43
landing, leggy things, you know, just
19:45
like on the ground. He walks
19:47
up to it. He knows exactly
19:49
what it is, obviously. He goes,
19:51
that is not a... of one
19:53
of my countrymen. That's obviously a
19:56
UFO. So he starts going, hey
19:58
guys, guys. And the egg is
20:00
just sitting there. It's big. It's
20:02
not like just a chicken egg.
20:04
It's not a tiny chicken egg.
20:06
He's like, guys, guys. He's kind
20:08
of waving his arms. Guys, open
20:10
up. I want to see you
20:13
guys. He starts calling out for
20:15
what he refers to as the
20:17
brothers of intellect. Brothers of intellect.
20:19
Please, all these other people are
20:21
stupid, but you and me were
20:23
smart! Door opens up. In outcome,
20:25
these three tall, what he describes
20:27
as humanoid aliens, with silvery coverals.
20:30
I'm thinking they're Nordics, which are
20:32
generally the blonde-haired blue-eyed aliens. That
20:34
kind of fits their description more
20:36
than it. Generally, people go, oh,
20:38
as a reptilian. or gray but
20:40
generally when they refer to it's
20:42
just humanoids it's usually what's called
20:44
a Nordic alien these three tall
20:47
aliens come out they're wearing silvery
20:49
cover rolls they start walking out
20:51
to him and he's like oh
20:53
yeah dude yeah me and you
20:55
do we're both brothers of intellect
20:57
dude yeah but maybe I'm a
20:59
little more intellectual than you but
21:02
I guess we'll find out and
21:04
as he's talking they point a
21:06
silver stick at him and they
21:08
shoot him and he's and he
21:10
gets paralyzed and they take him
21:12
on the ship. Now at this
21:14
point he's probably thinking, probably, you
21:16
know, I did offer to just
21:19
come on the ship. Probably didn't
21:21
have to be paralyzed, but you
21:23
know, when in Rome? When in
21:25
Romula 7? So they take him
21:27
aboard the spaceship. Pzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz And he's
21:29
probably like, oh dude, this is
21:31
so dope, am I going to
21:33
go to like to the moon?
21:36
And we're going to end up
21:38
on their alien planet, maybe fall
21:40
in love with some hot alien
21:42
space, babe. And then it goes,
21:44
and it lands in the caucus
21:46
mountains. And he's like, oh man,
21:48
it lands and the door. opens
21:50
up and he is allowed to
21:53
leave so he's not paralyzed anymore
21:55
and he's walking around and he
21:57
says he thought it was a
21:59
caucus mountains because he kind of
22:01
recognized the geography kind of looking
22:03
it kind of looks similar to
22:05
them and he sees all these
22:07
other it doesn't necessarily say they're
22:10
they're the more egg-shaped vehicles he
22:12
just says he sees more what
22:14
he refers to his object so
22:16
they could be more of the
22:18
egg-shaped things could be something else
22:20
but he sees a lot of
22:22
these tall, silvery, clad aliens walking
22:24
in and out of these objects.
22:27
And he's kind of standing there.
22:29
And then one of them walks
22:31
up to him. He's like, hey,
22:33
so are you the brother of
22:35
intellect who's like going to be
22:37
hanging out with me? Are you
22:39
the tour guy? Or like, what's
22:41
going on? Where's that hot space
22:44
babe? I was imagining. And at
22:46
that point, the alien pulls out
22:48
what's described as a corkscrew and
22:50
begins to dig it into Anton's
22:52
head. He
22:55
then goes through what he calls
22:57
extraterrestrial experimentation. We're not for sure
22:59
exactly what that is. I mean,
23:01
I guess the corkscrew being put
23:03
through your head was probably test
23:05
number one. Do humans feel pain?
23:07
Yes, extreme pain when corkscrew enters
23:09
the rain. We don't know the
23:12
full scope of it, but what
23:14
we do know is he is
23:16
take after this alien experimentation. He
23:18
leaves behind the caucus region. He's
23:20
put back in this egg thing,
23:22
he's dropped back off at Dag
23:24
of Alastonia. I imagine they drop
23:26
off with a little bandaid on
23:28
his forehead. He's like, oh, I
23:30
think I'm gonna need more than
23:33
a bandaid. And they're like, no,
23:35
that's the only thing they say
23:37
to him the whole time. The
23:39
rest of the time they're super
23:41
silent, they're just like drilling him
23:43
with stuff. It's like, oh, come
23:45
on, man, I have a splitting
23:47
headache, I can pretty sure. He
23:49
was like, this thing was like
23:51
sitting in the middle of nowhere,
23:54
he was walking down the coast,
23:56
skipping stones, and he saw it.
23:58
Like he was pretty much invisible.
24:00
to this thing, much like the
24:02
shredder is when he's sneaking up
24:04
on the Ninja Turtles. He was
24:06
the one who started yelling, hey
24:08
guy, hey alien, he's spaceship, come
24:10
over here, I want to talk
24:12
to you guys. The reason why
24:15
I want to point that out,
24:17
not saying like this guy deserves
24:19
what happens to him, I'm not
24:21
saying that at all, but it's
24:23
one of those things I, when
24:25
I was researching this story, I
24:27
put everything in a file, and
24:29
this file was called careful what
24:31
you wish for. After he gets
24:33
dropped off shortly after he gets
24:36
dropped off. He's like, oh man,
24:38
better go home and change my
24:40
band's hat. It's like brain fluid
24:42
is leaking out of it. Shortly
24:44
after he's dropped off, he comes
24:46
down with a mysterious illness. We
24:48
don't have any details of what
24:50
the illness actually is. This information
24:52
I got from think about at
24:54
docs.com, and they got it from
24:57
something called N.O. No. 44, was
24:59
there November, December, December issue, 1999.
25:01
With a mysterious illness an unknown
25:03
disease is the term actually used
25:05
in the write-up and within three
25:07
months he was dead Now it's
25:09
possible that You know, maybe he
25:11
was allergic to skipping rocks. Maybe
25:13
he has that horrible illness that
25:15
if he skipped more than three
25:18
rocks in a day, he's gonna
25:20
die in three months It's possible.
25:22
That's not possible right with it.
25:24
But it's possible that he had
25:26
a mysterious illness anyways, anyways, and
25:28
that's what killed him You know,
25:30
it could just be a coincidence
25:32
that he was subjected to paralysis
25:34
rays and corkscrews in the brain
25:36
and alien experimentation and then dice
25:38
three months later, could be a
25:41
coincidence. But what I think is
25:43
interesting about the story, and that's
25:45
horrible that the guy died. I'm
25:47
not like that, but what I
25:49
find interesting about the story is
25:51
there's been a theory going on
25:53
for a long time in UFOology.
25:55
We've talked about it a couple
25:57
times on this show that aliens
25:59
appear... Only to certain people like
26:02
UFOs are just something that's seen
26:04
in the sky, but actual like
26:06
contact ease Aliens choose you. It's
26:08
not like I'm walking through the
26:10
forest and I see a deer.
26:12
The deer is going to be
26:14
seen by anyone walking through the
26:16
forest. An alien only presents themselves
26:18
or abducts people who meet specific
26:20
factors. That's been a theory that's
26:23
been bandied around for a long
26:25
time. Aliens? There's always been that
26:27
thing that they may only appear
26:29
to certain people. And we've covered
26:31
that a couple times. What if
26:33
this is why? See, the UFO
26:35
wasn't there to meet. They're actually
26:37
mind on their own business hanging
26:39
out in their egg. Testing out
26:41
new corstries on each other? And
26:44
this guy, this guy who wasn't
26:46
supposed to be abducted by aliens,
26:48
starts making a big brew ha
26:50
ha ha outside. His aliens are
26:52
looking at each other and they're
26:54
like can you scan that dude
26:56
and find out if we're supposed
26:58
to abduct him or something? They're
27:00
like no, he's a nobody's He
27:02
keeps yelling about brothers of intellect.
27:05
He's gonna just draw a bunch
27:07
of attention They're like, I don't
27:09
know should we just abduct should
27:11
we just abduct this guy? I
27:13
don't know. We're not supposed to
27:15
but I guess he keeps saying
27:17
he's smart as we are Well
27:19
show him a corksker to the
27:21
brain. We'll show him how smart
27:23
he is What if being abducted
27:26
by aliens, and you're not supposed
27:28
to be abducted by aliens, or
27:30
having a visitation with aliens, and
27:32
you're not on the guest list,
27:34
has horrible consequences like that? Maybe
27:36
the reason why I don't see
27:38
aliens, like I've seen ghosts and
27:40
demons and stuff like that, cryptids
27:42
and all sorts of stuff. I've
27:44
never seen aliens. Maybe because they
27:47
don't, like if I see them,
27:49
something, something's gone wrong. Like I'm
27:51
not on the guest list. I
27:53
don't get to go on the
27:55
VIP to the VIP room, the
27:57
VIP room, the VIP room, the
27:59
VIP room. I'm not on that
28:01
list. Maybe you're not on that
28:03
list either. We can all see
28:05
a ghost. You can all see
28:08
a krypton. But you might have
28:10
to have a special genetic makeup
28:12
to actually go face to face
28:14
with an alien. If that's the
28:16
case, that may be another reason
28:18
why alien... can't do full disclosure.
28:20
Could it be something as simple
28:22
as what we already know to
28:24
be true here on Earth. When
28:26
two different cultures meet that are
28:29
separated by oceans, it's very very
28:31
likely, if not guaranteed, that there
28:33
will be a disease communicated between
28:35
the two cultures that will kill
28:37
one if not both. Aliens may
28:39
not be able to come down
28:41
and visit us. In mass, because
28:43
they may kill us within three
28:45
months. Cork screw to the head
28:47
or not. There could be something
28:49
that they know about. That when
28:52
they visit us, if we do
28:54
not have the right genetic makeup,
28:56
it will kill us. So they
28:58
scan everything as they're flying by.
29:00
When they look for someone to
29:02
abduct, when they look for someone
29:04
to communicate with, he can survive
29:06
if he meets with me meets
29:08
with us. She can't. It would
29:10
be a terrifying ending to a
29:13
story of first contact if someday
29:15
UFOs do appear over major cities.
29:17
Their leaders land begin talking to
29:19
our leaders. Begin exchanging information. Begin
29:21
exchanging technology. And three months later,
29:23
90% of the world's population is
29:25
dead. The remaining humans would ask
29:27
the aliens if you knew this
29:29
was going to happen. Why did
29:31
you come down? If you knew
29:34
that you carried a disease that
29:36
would kill most humans, why did
29:38
you appear? The aliens would just
29:40
go, you've been asking for disclosure
29:42
for so long. You've been looking
29:44
up with the sky for so
29:46
long and begging for us to
29:48
reveal ourselves. You said you were
29:50
our brothers of intellect. We tried
29:52
to stay hidden, but you just
29:55
kept looking for us. This is
29:57
the future you chose the future
29:59
you chose. That's when the aliens
30:01
get back on. their ships and
30:03
fly back out far away from
30:05
human eyes, leaving us to rebuild
30:07
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30:09
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