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1:08

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1:10

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1:12

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1:14

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the air. They were in like a perfect

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triangular pattern. The three of them, they had

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We thought this is crazy. Neither one of

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like oh my gosh yeah did you

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see that? Ladies and gentlemen welcome

1:44

back to another episode of debriefed

1:47

my name is Chris Ramsey and

1:49

today we are going to be looking

1:51

at the final part of the

1:53

read-through from the Laceda files. This

1:55

is a meeting between this guy

1:58

and Sweden who met with an

2:00

alleged... reptilian female by the name

2:02

of Leserta in the year 99

2:04

and 2000. We've gone through their

2:07

anatomy, their biology, how they communicate

2:09

telepathically, where they dwell, how they

2:11

reproduce, where they're from, the origins,

2:13

this intergalactic war that happened, and

2:15

finally we ended with the science

2:18

part. And this was probably the

2:20

heaviest chapter that we've read so

2:22

far, but it basically instructed us

2:24

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2:27

how they navigate through this sort

2:29

of bubble pair of pair of...

2:31

universe, multi-layered, interdimensional. Realm, I don't

2:33

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2:36

into words, but a lot of

2:38

you chimed in during that read-through

2:40

with some really, really interesting takes.

2:42

Many of you have found amazing

2:45

connections, and I look forward to

2:47

seeing what you guys think of

2:49

this last part. Before we begin,

2:51

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2:53

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Folks, we paid the bills. Who's

4:25

ready to get roasted by a

4:27

lizard lady? She's been quite the

4:30

sassy. little reptilian I will say

4:32

I wonder if they're all this

4:34

condescending in real life. They probably

4:36

have some type of superiority complex

4:38

among them. I just wonder if

4:41

within their own society if they

4:43

treat each other with such disdain.

4:45

And also it makes you wonder,

4:47

like there probably is some faction

4:50

down there that is like pro-human

4:52

and then there's like an anti-human.

4:54

Yeah, I just, I really hope

4:56

that within this we find a

4:59

little bit more out about their

5:01

culture. I do enjoy the science,

5:03

I think it's fine, but honestly,

5:05

most of that stuff goes over

5:07

my head. So we got one

5:10

last science question to get through

5:12

from Ola Kay as he calls

5:14

himself, and then we're going to

5:16

move on. So here we go.

5:19

Question. Only one last question. At

5:21

our first meeting in December, you

5:23

made it quite clear that you

5:25

didn't want to discuss scientific and

5:28

paranormal concerns. Why the openness now?

5:30

Great question. Answer, the last time

5:32

I saw really no necessity in

5:34

overburdening you with facts of that

5:37

kind. And now you were obviously

5:39

overburdened. Therefore, I had preferred only

5:41

to mention these topics in a

5:43

peripheral sense. Apparently, however, some of

5:45

my performances today have set youth

5:48

to thinking about your world, something

5:50

that can't be all bad. And

5:52

by the way, your human scientists

5:54

will tend to regard my comments

5:57

as humbug. And I see no...

5:59

great danger in spreading this information

6:01

widely. No one will pay much

6:03

attention to it. By the way,

6:06

the words of the people who

6:08

have characterized me as a creature

6:10

of evil have their basis in

6:12

belief in occult powers and magic,

6:15

both of which things do not

6:17

exist. There is no magic, only

6:19

highly developed science, and everything that

6:21

you label as magic is only

6:23

a part of science. If you

6:25

would only comprehend that then you

6:27

would be a step ahead in

6:30

your development. My openness on the

6:32

issue ends here. Pose other questions,

6:35

please. Okay. I will say that, again,

6:37

this is kind of convenient

6:39

that she's like, well, it's all

6:41

too complicated for your meagre

6:44

minds and you guys are

6:46

just gonna disregard it as

6:48

being woo-woo, and woo-w doesn't

6:50

exist, it's all science. I mean

6:52

that all sort of makes sense that

6:55

it all sort of cancels each other

6:57

out nice and neatly where if you

6:59

question it you are someone denying it

7:01

and therefore inferior and if you understand

7:03

and grasp it then you are supporting

7:06

her. So from a creative writing standpoint

7:08

this kind of fills in a lot

7:10

of plot holes but who knows you

7:12

know maybe if this was actually true

7:15

this is potentially what that would sound

7:17

like also right so we got to

7:19

keep an open mind here. Question good.

7:22

Let's talk about UFOs. Can you

7:24

explain to me how our governments

7:26

came into possession of UFO material

7:29

to the point that they could

7:31

start their own projects? Did it

7:33

have anything to do with the

7:35

Roswell incident? Let's go.

7:37

Now we're talking about some

7:39

actual crash retrieval stuff. Answer, yes,

7:42

but that accident was not the

7:44

first one. I am no historian. I

7:46

am studying only your current behavior,

7:48

so my knowledge about those events

7:51

in your history is presumably not

7:53

very extensive. I will try to

7:55

explain to you what I know about

7:58

those things which happened at that time.

8:00

think about it for a second.

8:02

In the years 1946 to 1953

8:04

in your timescale there were five

8:06

cases where extraterrestrial ships crashed to

8:09

the surface of the earth. In

8:11

that crash which you call the

8:13

Roswell incident there was not only

8:15

one alien ship involved but two

8:18

that crashed after a collision in

8:20

different parts of the land in

8:22

the west, the one you call

8:24

USA. You have to

8:27

know that the ships of this

8:29

particular species can remain levitating in

8:31

the air for a particular period

8:33

of time even though they are

8:36

damaged That accounts for the spatial

8:38

difference in their crash locations These

8:40

were indeed not the first crashes

8:42

But by that time the second

8:45

and and the third another ship

8:47

had crashed in 1946, but it

8:49

was destroyed beyond usability 46, wouldn't

8:51

that been Trinity? When did the

8:54

Trinity UFO crash happen? The Trinity

8:56

UFO crash reportedly happened in August

8:58

1945. Near San Antonio, New Mexico.

9:00

I mean, that's more like 1945.

9:03

Could Lesur to be mistaken? But

9:05

it is interesting, you know, if

9:07

a ufologist wrote this paper, then,

9:09

you know, they might know about

9:12

the Trinity case. One thing first,

9:14

before the explanation, it certainly sounds

9:16

ridiculous to you that such highly

9:19

developed extraterrestrial ships simply crash, and

9:21

that a relatively large number did

9:23

so in a relatively short amount

9:25

of time. The explanation for that

9:28

is likewise more than strange, but

9:30

it is correct. It does not

9:32

lie in the ship's drive itself,

9:34

but rather in the direction of

9:37

the field to your planet. This

9:39

species that we are discussing and

9:41

it always in this time period

9:43

that this species used a disc-shaped

9:46

craft used a propulsion system which

9:48

ran according to the normal of

9:50

fusion, to be sure, but one

9:52

that at that time employed a

9:55

more than conventional method for field

9:57

alignment. This method had various advantages

9:59

but also disadvantages. The repelling field

10:01

must of course lie in the

10:04

absolute correct angle to the surface

10:06

of the Earth. This species used

10:08

an alignment technology in their ships

10:10

with which the field locked into

10:13

place all the points of Earth's

10:15

magnetic field. I love the idea

10:17

that we're responding to UFO crashes

10:20

because many skeptics out there will

10:22

say, well, if they have the

10:24

technology to bounce around the universe,

10:26

how are they just simply crashing

10:29

here on Earth? Valid, valid questions.

10:31

But the answers to that might

10:33

be, you know, multiple, either we're

10:35

taking them down, you know, gravity,

10:38

something or another, failure on the

10:40

engine side. I mean... Who knows,

10:42

but I like the idea that

10:44

we're finally getting some sort of

10:47

explanation and it has to do

10:49

with the Earth's magnetic field, which

10:51

is really interesting because the four-chan

10:53

whistleblower, if you guys remember, the

10:56

one that worked on the crash

10:58

retrievals, said that in Mexico particularly,

11:00

the UFOs now today avoid it

11:02

like the plague because there are

11:05

some spots that are just like...

11:07

they'll take down ships. And not

11:09

sure if that has to do

11:11

with, again, the Earth's magnetic field

11:14

or the fact that there are

11:16

nuclear test ranges out there, but

11:18

it's all very interesting. The second

11:21

thing here, we mentioned some type

11:23

of alignment technology with which the

11:25

field locked into place all of

11:27

the points of the Earth's magnetic

11:30

field. and they said the repelling

11:32

field must of course lie in

11:34

the absolute correct angle to the

11:36

surface of the earth. It reminds

11:39

me of you know those magnets

11:41

that are sort of superpositioned where

11:43

you can just like throw up

11:45

a video here. but the magnets,

11:48

you can sort of place them

11:50

anywhere. But once they're locked in,

11:52

they kind of stay locked in.

11:54

What's interesting is that they talk

11:57

about angle. And obviously Bob Lazar

11:59

has spoken about this, and we've

12:01

seen this in many photos and

12:03

videos of UFO accounts, that prior

12:06

to the crafts taking off at

12:08

incredible speeds, they tend to angle

12:10

themselves at a 45 degree. and

12:12

not necessarily in the direction where

12:15

they're going, just to sort of

12:17

align perhaps the gravitational amplifiers or

12:19

whatever it is on the craft

12:22

in order to take off. It'd

12:24

be easier with a model on

12:26

the bottom side of the disk

12:28

of the three gravity generators. When

12:31

they want to travel to a

12:33

distant point, the disk turns on

12:35

its side. The three gravity generators

12:37

produce a gravitational beam. What they

12:40

do is they converge the three

12:42

gravity generators on to a point

12:44

and use that as a focal

12:46

point. then they essentially bring them

12:49

up to power and pull that

12:51

point towards the disk. The disk

12:53

itself will attach on to that

12:55

point and snap back as they

12:58

release space back to that point.

13:00

Now all this happens in the

13:02

distortion of time, so time is

13:04

not incrementing, so the speed is

13:07

essentially infinite. Very interesting, just a

13:09

few points of, you know, connection

13:11

that I thought were worthy of

13:13

mentioning. Now at that time, this

13:16

species had just arrived on the

13:18

earth and their point of origin

13:20

lay on a planet with a

13:22

more stable magnetic field. for which

13:25

they had developed and aligned their

13:27

drive. The magnetic field of the

13:29

earth is not really all that

13:32

stable. It is subject to cyclical

13:34

variations and it forms field eddies

13:36

under unfavorable conditions. Whenever a ship

13:38

with one of those kinds, can

13:41

we just hold on? What's a

13:43

field eddy? A field eddy typically

13:45

refers to a swirling or circular

13:47

movement within a field of fluid,

13:50

such as air or water. It's

13:52

similar to a small whirlpool or

13:54

vortex. In the context of weather,

13:56

it can describe a localized rotation

13:59

within a larger system. often influencing

14:01

local weather conditions. All right, whenever

14:03

a ship with one of those

14:05

kinds of drives gets into a

14:08

field fluctuation or into an eddy

14:10

that is too strong, then for a

14:12

short time, the repelling field can

14:15

no longer align itself correctly and

14:17

the ship glides uncontrolled on its

14:19

flight path. The drive is operating

14:21

correctly, to be sure, but the

14:23

field fluctuates in all directions and

14:26

because of that, the ship can

14:28

crash. The ship can crash. In

14:30

the case from 1947 which you

14:32

addressed it is my understanding that

14:34

one of the ships got caught

14:36

in a fluctuation. Its field linked

14:38

up unintentionally with that of its

14:40

squadron leader and it collided with

14:42

another ship whereby both of them

14:45

were heavily damaged. The cause for

14:47

the magnetic fluctuation at the time

14:49

was probably an electrical disturbance brought

14:51

about by a weather event. Both

14:53

ships crashed as a result. One

14:56

of them fell near the collision

14:58

point, the other a hundred of

15:00

your kilometers are so distant. All

15:02

occupants were killed in the impact.

15:04

The thin hull structure of that

15:06

kind of disc craft is in

15:09

and of itself not very stable.

15:11

Since those disks have not been designed

15:13

for crashes as well as for flight

15:15

in a field where there are

15:17

exterior forces at work. Two things

15:20

here. One, not all the beings

15:22

allegedly were killed. So this is

15:24

according to Colonel Corso. who Philip

15:26

Corso, who wrote a book the

15:28

day after Roswell, very, very interesting

15:30

book indeed, but it details that

15:33

when the craft was discovered,

15:35

there was a breach in the

15:37

hull, bodies were seen kind of

15:39

strewn around the craft, almost crawling

15:41

or trying to leave the craft

15:43

and ended up dying, but one

15:45

of them survived, climbed this little

15:47

hill, and was trying to get

15:49

out, and the soldiers panicked, and

15:51

sort of lit it up. if you

15:54

know what I mean. But yeah,

15:56

the second thing is that the

15:58

crafts were actually... Quite intact, where

16:01

normally a aircraft, a more prosaic

16:03

aircraft, would have been blown to

16:05

smithereens. These crafts were not. Your

16:08

human military collected the individual pieces

16:10

at first until they discovered the

16:13

whole ships with the dead creatures

16:15

aboard. Immediately they classified everything as

16:17

top secret. and brought them into

16:20

their military bases in order to

16:22

analyze the drive. The secret endeavor

16:24

was to set the alien technology

16:27

in place later against evil enemies

16:29

of that great country. That is

16:32

as primitive as it is ridiculous.

16:34

I believe I remember, I don't

16:36

want to specify exactly your date,

16:39

that it was probably between 1949

16:41

and 1952, that there was a

16:43

rather bad accident during some research

16:46

being done on one of those

16:48

wrecks. According to what I heard,

16:50

what members of my species were

16:53

told by members of that government,

16:55

it resulted in an unintentional activation

16:58

of one of the drive's components

17:00

in the unsheeled condition as a

17:02

result for a very short period

17:05

of time. How should I phrase

17:07

this? There was an unchecked shift

17:09

of the environment to a plasma-like

17:12

condition, which on the other hand,

17:14

through a very, very unfortunate accident.

17:17

caused an overturning of the general

17:19

power field into a magnetic pulse

17:21

of immense power. Do you have

17:24

any idea of what kind of

17:26

an effect a plasma magnetic jolt

17:28

has when it comes into contact

17:31

with an organism? No. How should

17:33

you know that? Of course you

17:36

don't. Disturbance in the structure of

17:38

the field and bioelectric feedback. Imagine,

17:40

if you will, a human body

17:43

which is engulfed in bright flames

17:45

for three or four of your

17:47

days. Those flames apparently do not

17:50

go out, and they burn the

17:52

body right down to its last

17:54

constable. Well, then you have an

17:57

approximate impression of what happened. I

17:59

think that 20 or 30 of

18:02

your scientists were killed in that

18:04

lab. My goodness! I am not

18:06

currently familiar if I've heard of

18:09

any of such tales that go

18:11

back as early as the 50s,

18:13

the 40s and 50s. It's very

18:16

interesting. If any of you have

18:18

information on that, I would love

18:21

to check it out. We continue

18:23

with some more crashes that Leserta

18:25

talks about. Two further crashes occurred

18:28

in 1950 and 1953 in the

18:30

water catchment area of the American

18:32

continent. Those ships were able to

18:35

be recovered from the crashes relatively

18:37

intact. The one in 1953, as

18:40

I remember, even had an intact

18:42

drive core. It was by means

18:44

of that device that you saw

18:47

for the first time that you

18:49

had understood the entire concept fully

18:51

incorrectly and that you had reconstructed

18:54

it fully incorrectly. Even

18:56

today, you still don't have it

18:58

right. So that's something that's really

19:00

interesting because even back then, you

19:03

know, in 19 or 2000 or

19:05

whatever, they're saying, oh, we don't

19:07

have it right. That seems to

19:10

be the common consensus is that

19:12

there is this cold war brewing

19:14

between all of the leading powers

19:16

of the world to successfully back

19:19

engineer control and understand this type

19:21

of propulsion system or this type

19:23

of gravitic manipulation. Until any of

19:26

us successfully. engineer it, none of

19:28

us will be able to truly

19:30

harness its abilities. But the second

19:32

we do might be a very

19:35

scary moment in the history of

19:37

our human existence. That species which

19:39

had built the ships in the

19:41

first place, a species which I,

19:44

by the way, count among those

19:46

who are unfriendly towards you, was

19:48

naturally worried about the investigation of

19:51

their own technology by your kind.

19:53

They did not want, however... at

19:55

that early point in time to

19:57

begin direct conflict with you. And

20:00

so they chose the diplomatic path.

20:02

and came into contact with that

20:04

government during your 1960s. Of course

20:06

they did not divulge the real

20:09

reasons for their being here. Copper

20:11

hydrogen air, but rather they pretended

20:13

to be curious quote-unquote researchers and

20:16

offered to show people the functioning

20:18

principles of the ship whereby they

20:20

would expect in return some quote-unquote

20:22

favors, simple-minded as you are, you

20:25

of course agreed to it. And

20:27

were deceived. Whoa, okay, now we're

20:29

talking about some interesting stuff. We're

20:31

getting into some of John Lear's

20:34

allegations and even the Grietta Treaty,

20:36

which was apparently made between Eisenhower

20:38

and these aliens. It also, you

20:41

know, might bring up the Holloman

20:43

Air Force landing where the creatures

20:45

exited the vehicle and they were

20:47

taken away and met with some

20:50

government officials. This is very very

20:52

very very interesting and I love

20:54

the intergalactic diplomacy happening here of

20:57

I like the idea that these

20:59

creatures bleed that they aren't perfect

21:01

this gives me some type of

21:03

hope for humanity that we you

21:06

know although inferior might stand a

21:08

chance we have their technology in

21:10

our possession they don't like that

21:12

so they came and said oh

21:15

yeah we'll show you how it

21:17

works and then John Lear you

21:19

know, in his document mentioned that

21:22

they kind of gave us their

21:24

technology, but we realized we couldn't

21:26

pilot it without them. And then

21:28

they said, oh, can we, you

21:31

know, abduct some people and perform

21:33

experiments, which is what they're doing.

21:35

And as mentioned by Danny Sheen,

21:37

we've found these headbands perhaps from

21:40

the crash in Roswell. which when

21:42

reverse engineered could amplify our cyanic

21:44

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21:47

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21:49

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reason most flying saucers have failed

22:25

is because our conclusion was that

22:28

this being is part of the

22:30

guidance system. It was part of

22:32

the guide system. That's why we

22:34

failed in propulsion and guidance system

22:37

of these fine saucers. We didn't

22:39

figure it out. We didn't do

22:41

enough on that body. I like,

22:43

I'm sorry if I'm pausing here,

22:46

but... I'm suddenly realizing that all

22:48

the work that this channel has

22:50

done and all the work that

22:53

we've done collectively to look into

22:55

a lot of these alleged whistleblower,

22:57

alleged documents, or MJ12, or stories,

22:59

and all of these, and then

23:02

the guests that we've interviewed, are

23:04

finally coalescing in a way that

23:06

is making sense of the greater

23:08

picture. Now, mind you, I don't

23:11

know if that is correct. This

23:13

could be a giant cyop, this

23:15

could be fake, this could be

23:18

a hoax, this could be whatever.

23:20

But rest assured that I will

23:22

not dismiss it. I think that

23:24

this is very interesting to actually

23:27

contemplate and it is a scenario

23:29

that although unlikely is there's a

23:31

non-zero chance that this is the

23:33

reality that we live in. We

23:36

continue. You gave them raw materials,

23:38

you gave them secured locations for

23:40

their bases, you gave them access

23:43

to your most... secret defense data

23:45

you gave them access to your

23:47

DNA and much more and all

23:49

just to quench your greed for

23:52

power and information the alien species

23:54

of course quickly noted that they

23:56

were dealing with simple-minded creatures and

23:59

they gave you false inferior information

24:01

about their technology so that they

24:03

receive much more out of the

24:05

collaboration than your kind do. For

24:08

example, they gave you information that

24:10

the drive can only be constructed

24:12

with unstable elements of a higher

24:14

ranking number. But they withheld the

24:17

information that the field drive can

24:19

be constructed with various modifications to

24:21

work as well with stable elements

24:24

of a lower periodic number. And

24:26

generally, that's the way it's done.

24:28

Through these half-truths, they made you

24:30

dependent on synthesizing of high-numbered elements,

24:33

and thereby renewed by their own

24:35

technology. Their clues to the construction

24:37

of your UFOs were laid out

24:39

in such a way that the

24:42

solution to old problems caused new

24:44

problems to arise simultaneously. They never

24:46

told you the complete truth, but

24:49

always built in again and again

24:51

clever lies, which later lead to

24:53

technical problems and to your dependence

24:55

on them. Whoa, this is sounding

24:58

a lot like Bob Lazar here.

25:00

However, if I was a government...

25:02

a human-run government Cyop program. You

25:05

know, perhaps I would like to

25:07

throw the information out there that

25:09

element 115 is not actually is

25:11

required to fly these crafts when

25:14

indeed it is. So is this

25:16

a double bluff, a single bluff?

25:18

Very interesting, but if true, you

25:20

know, this means that... The work

25:23

that Bob Lazar was doing was

25:25

essentially throwing him and the rest

25:27

of the American government for a

25:30

loop in a rat race, you

25:32

know, that led essentially nowhere into

25:34

more problems. I also find it

25:36

interesting that she says that it

25:39

is possible using those heavy elements,

25:41

so it doesn't actually negate the

25:43

work that Bob ever did, but

25:45

she also says that it can

25:48

be done with other things. Which

25:50

would explain why there have been

25:52

sightings of these crafts sort of

25:55

collecting water samples and all and

25:57

hanging around you know uranium mines

25:59

especially Like in Ruiz and

26:01

Bobway, there was a massive

26:04

uranium mine there when

26:06

that happened. So it would make

26:08

sense. Okay. I'll be frank.

26:10

I did not expect to

26:12

be this excited about this

26:15

document. Like, I mean, I

26:17

was excited. It was fun

26:19

to get through, but now

26:22

this is all of a

26:24

sudden becoming plausible. I don't know.

26:26

Let me know what you guys

26:28

think. And by the way, if you're

26:30

CIA and you're watching, leave a

26:32

like, subscribe. In the last years of

26:35

your 1970s and your early

26:37

1980s, it finally came down

26:39

to various events between the

26:41

alien species and the human

26:43

government. I don't want to go into

26:45

detail here, since there is much that

26:48

even I am not exactly sure of.

26:50

The whole thing lay in the

26:52

context with some new or

26:54

better said the old technical

26:56

problems with your own self-constructed

26:58

ships whose camouflage and drive

27:00

partially failed to function in test

27:02

flights in the open. Because of that,

27:05

the function of secrecy was

27:07

threatened. Your military and your

27:09

politicians slowly, very slowly, came

27:12

to the conclusion, after more than

27:14

20 years of this, that they had

27:16

been deceived. by that alien

27:18

species. Multitudinous incongruities and the

27:21

overstepping of bounds of the

27:23

treaties by both sides finally

27:25

led to an altercation between

27:27

you and the extraterrestrials, which

27:29

culminated in the liftoff of

27:31

three of the alien aerial

27:34

objects through a special, how

27:36

do you say it, EMP,

27:38

electromagnetic pulse, weapon, and a

27:40

military skirmish at one of

27:42

their underground installations. Hold on

27:44

now we're talking about Dulce.

27:46

Now we're talking about this

27:49

alleged underground altercation that

27:51

happened at a secretive

27:53

military base once we

27:55

found out what was going

27:58

on. So, is LaSerta... the person

28:00

who wrote this just a big

28:02

fan of urology following in the

28:05

footsteps of Phil Schneider and Bill

28:07

Cooper and Bill Moore and all

28:09

these other guys or are all

28:12

these people telling the truth you

28:14

know the former is more likely

28:16

if you're gonna Occam's razor it

28:18

but the latter is not to

28:21

be completely thrown at the window.

28:23

As a consequence of these attacks,

28:25

the alien species ultimately withdrew from

28:28

all contact with you and was

28:30

understandably more angered about your kind.

28:32

Therefore, I count these extraterrestrials among

28:34

the three groups who are hostile

28:37

towards you. And while the other

28:39

two are more occupied with their

28:41

own business, among them waging a

28:44

cold war for dominance on your

28:46

planet, your old quote unquote friends

28:48

and partners are preparing to supply

28:51

themselves finally with the sole and

28:53

absolute dominance over raw materials and

28:55

human DNA. At the moment it

28:57

is probably true that they lack

29:00

some of the technical possibilities and

29:02

the large amount of forces which

29:04

they need in order to achieve

29:07

their goals directly. In spite of

29:09

that we are counting on negative

29:11

actions, possibly ever of a more

29:13

subtle kind. Against you. Against you.

29:16

in the next few years or

29:18

decades. Whoa, okay, so they're gearing

29:20

up, they're coming to attack, they're

29:23

getting ready, you know, but maybe,

29:25

I don't know, this is all

29:27

sounding a little wacky and zaining.

29:30

I will also say that the

29:32

more I read this, the more,

29:34

I kind of part ways on

29:36

two distinct and opposite paths here,

29:39

either one path where, holy crap,

29:41

what if this is real, right?

29:43

That's an amazing thought experiment. fun

29:46

to think about, but the other

29:48

side is if I was a

29:50

government trying to, you know, false

29:52

flag, attack its own citizens in

29:55

the future by way of a

29:57

potential quote-unquote alien threat using reverse

29:59

engineered technology. and, you know, sort

30:02

of the whole project, Blue Beam

30:04

type thing, I may insert documents

30:06

like this, and quote, quote, unquote,

30:09

whistleblowers, on sites like Fortune, or

30:11

other conspiratorial websites, in order to

30:13

further the psychological landscape that I've

30:15

been laying, begin to implant this

30:18

idea within the population that... there

30:20

might be some type of alien

30:22

threat. Now couple that with what's

30:25

currently happening with OSAP, A-TIP, Arrow,

30:27

and the government and how, oh,

30:29

we have threats from another planet,

30:31

we have to, you know what

30:34

I mean? I urge my listeners

30:36

to be on guard. Do not

30:38

take any of this as the

30:41

truth. Don't dismiss it. And be

30:43

aware that there... could potentially be

30:45

some type of human manipulation behind

30:48

all this as well. Equally is

30:50

interesting and doesn't make it untrue.

30:52

These could be half truths. I

30:54

love this stuff. All right, here

30:57

we go. Question. Will the other

30:59

extraterrestrial species undertake nothing against these

31:01

warlike actions? Specifically, something ought to

31:04

be on earth for the more

31:06

highly developed species. Answer, you're wrong

31:08

there. Specifically, for the more highly

31:10

developed species, there is simply at

31:13

the very least your fate. You

31:15

are animals for them, animals in

31:17

a very large lab. Understandably, an

31:20

alien intervention on your planet would

31:22

disturb their projects, but I don't

31:24

think that they accept a confrontation

31:27

with other species for it. Many

31:29

of them could look for another

31:31

research planet for themselves, or they

31:33

could study over a long distance

31:36

your behavior and your consciousness slash

31:38

awareness, since crisis situations could have

31:40

an attraction for their studies. Whenever

31:43

you people take a look at

31:45

an ant hill. and another person

31:47

comes along and steps on that

31:49

ant hill, what do you do?

31:52

You go on your way, or

31:54

you research for another ant hill,

31:56

or you observe the ants in

31:59

their crisis condition. But would one

32:01

of you, even though he were

32:03

larger and more powerful than the

32:06

one who stepped on the ant

32:08

hill in the first place, defend

32:10

the meaningless ants? No. You have

32:12

to imagine for yourself the viewpoint

32:15

of the more highly advanced creatures.

32:17

You are the ants, don't expect

32:19

any help from them. Whoa, hold

32:22

on a second. Disagree, hard disagree,

32:24

Lyserta, you cold-blooded, lizard lady, you

32:26

have no idea how empathetic human

32:28

beings can be. Thank you very

32:31

much. I, if I saw somebody

32:33

destroying any natural habitat of any

32:35

other living creature, I would like

32:38

to think that I would indeed...

32:40

if not step in at least

32:42

speak up. Do you disagree? Let

32:45

me know. Of course we would

32:47

ask for help when it became

32:49

clear that your old partners were

32:51

ganging up on you. Some members

32:54

of that human government are fully

32:56

aware of our existence, also partially

32:58

owing to an old religious basis.

33:01

For example, there is a gigantic

33:03

partially underground building in the capital

33:05

which is totally dedicated to my

33:07

species, and that also has a

33:10

direct approach to an elevator shaft.

33:12

and to an underground system in

33:14

this building, partial meetings have taken

33:17

place and do take place between

33:19

us and humans. We have passed

33:21

on information to you in the

33:24

last few years. According to what

33:26

I know, we will keep ourselves

33:28

as far away from the conflict

33:30

as we can. You ought to

33:33

learn to solve your own problems

33:35

yourselves or to become intelligent enough

33:37

never to create those kind of

33:40

situations. What will come and who

33:42

will possibly place themselves on your

33:44

side only time will tell? I

33:46

really do not want to make

33:49

any indications about that. Okay. Leserta

33:51

playing the neutral card here, not

33:53

getting involved, saying that we should

33:56

learn her own lessons, and you

33:58

can't really blame her. You

34:00

know, there's probably a reason they've

34:02

survived so long, was probably staying

34:05

out of conflict and underground. Leserta,

34:07

if you're watching this, I would love

34:09

to have a sit down with you as well. I

34:12

would love to talk to you about all of this

34:14

stuff. Please reach out to me. And let's

34:16

get a conversation going. And perhaps you'd

34:18

be surprised at how much we may

34:20

have evolved. since you last spoke with

34:22

this gentleman. I have here five prints

34:24

of different UFOs which claim to show

34:27

UFOs. Can you take a look at

34:29

the pictures and tell me which of

34:31

them actual extraterrestrial aerial craft can be

34:33

seen? Interesting, I really wish we had

34:35

these pictures but that is cool. Answer, I

34:38

can try it. You pose many questions to

34:40

me today which even I cannot

34:42

answer unequivocally. Don't overestimate my knowledge.

34:44

I'm no expert in alien technology

34:47

and the construction of extraterrestrial

34:49

ships to be sure. There are

34:51

mostly some technical details and

34:53

peculiarities about genuine UFOs with

34:55

whose help one can easily

34:58

differentiate them from natural phenomena

35:00

or human forgeries. You falsify

35:02

sometimes the pattern of genuine

35:04

ships. Therefore, it is not

35:07

so easy simply with absolute

35:09

certainty to identify an object.

35:11

I'll try it. Show me

35:13

the photos. Here's a comment by

35:15

Ola. She considered the pictures respectively

35:18

for... only a couple of seconds

35:20

and then sorted out photos one

35:22

three and five. That's an interesting

35:24

detail to put in there. These

35:26

three pictures here are obvious counterfeits

35:29

or errandous identifications. In one picture

35:31

it certainly seems to me that

35:33

a real existing ship of an

35:35

alien species was adapted for a

35:37

small model here. It lacks important

35:39

characteristics which are tied in with

35:41

the technically and physically associated field.

35:43

Generally speaking a picture is all the

35:46

more fake the clear the outline. And

35:48

the colors are, because a

35:50

levitating ship is generally hidden

35:52

in a shifted field condition

35:54

that even distorts the colors

35:56

or forms according to alignment,

35:59

it might perhaps... strange but

36:01

hazy and specterly shifted photos are

36:03

sometimes to be interpreted as an

36:05

indication for a possibly authenticity. Whoa!

36:08

That's cool. Again, just sort of

36:10

echoing what many UFO observers have

36:13

said in the past is that

36:15

if there is a gravitational distortion

36:17

around this craft it will undoubtedly

36:20

skew any type of attempt of

36:22

attempt of Photography. By the

36:24

way, this object is floating above

36:27

the water. If it were a

36:29

genuine ship, we would have to

36:31

see in any case either a

36:34

trow or a swell on the

36:36

surface. Since the surface is

36:38

flat, it is obviously not a

36:41

genuine ship. In my opinion, none

36:43

of these three pictures show genuine

36:45

objects in flight or UFOs. Here

36:48

in this picture, I see above

36:50

all no artificial object in flight.

36:53

It seems much more to deal

36:55

with only a light reflex in

36:57

your simple optical cameras. You really

37:00

ought to be intelligent enough not

37:02

to fall for a mix-up like

37:05

that. When your general public chases

37:07

counterfeits and frauds for a

37:09

long time, then they will presumably

37:11

discover too late what is really

37:14

going on in front of them

37:16

in their atmosphere. Okay. So, we

37:19

have a photo here. I'm going

37:21

to pull it up. This

37:23

is interesting. No way. That is...

37:25

crazy. Because this is a famous

37:28

UFO alleged UFO landing in March

37:30

of 1974. The caption for this

37:33

reads, this was taken by a

37:35

French medical doctor that remained

37:37

anonymous on March 23rd 1974 in

37:40

Tavain, in the department in Var.

37:42

During a major UFO flap over

37:44

France skeptics doubted the picture on

37:47

the ground that the luminous rays

37:49

cannot end like this, of course

37:52

they do not normally, but

37:54

the skeptics simply forgot to consider

37:56

that these are not luminous rays,

37:58

but light emissions by ionized air.

38:01

I mean that is a bea-

38:03

beautiful, beautiful image. As someone who

38:06

is into film photography, or

38:08

at least getting into film photography,

38:10

you know, one of my biggest

38:12

life goals is to capture a

38:15

flying saucer on film. Not for

38:17

proof, not for evidence, just for

38:20

the beauty, the sheer beauty of

38:22

these crafts and like the impossibility,

38:24

and also something about, you know,

38:27

this prosaic. technology this film mixed

38:29

with the pinnacle of technology in

38:32

sort of coming together. I think

38:34

it's just really beautiful. So that's

38:36

the photo we're talking about

38:38

here. This one seems genuine. At

38:41

least it displays the necessary characteristics.

38:43

I would assign it at first

38:46

glance to an alien species who

38:48

have been visiting your planet for

38:50

the last 35 years or

38:52

so. The object itself is metallic

38:55

and disc-shaped. Certainly it is distorted

38:57

in form and color by means

39:00

of a field effect. These four

39:02

white-long quote-unquote processes on the underside

39:04

of the ship itself portray a

39:07

kind of quasi-gravity light manipulation, i.e.

39:09

the universal force field is being

39:12

shifted in the direction of a

39:14

simulated gravity. Actually... It is not

39:16

a genuine light. It is mostly

39:19

not a genuine light whenever you

39:21

see illuminating UFOs, but a

39:23

special, strongly charged form field which

39:26

manifests itself in the space that

39:28

matter inhabits as a quasi-light. The

39:30

reason for the activation of this

39:33

special high energy system in an

39:35

atmosphere is not completely clear

39:37

to me. It's possible that it

39:40

is a kind of investigating or

39:42

influencing of the environment. In

39:45

any case, it is terribly

39:47

careless of that species to

39:49

allow this technology to be

39:52

photographed by humans. Well, I

39:54

guess that most of you

39:56

just plain don't understand it,

39:58

and those who do will

40:01

not say anything about it

40:03

to the general public. Whoa,

40:05

kind of corroborates the sighting,

40:07

kind of corroborates, you know,

40:10

what the initial thoughts of

40:12

that were. Very cool. Here

40:14

is photo number four. Petisse

40:16

Rachain in Belgium. Oh, this

40:19

is interesting. This is really

40:21

interesting that this one was

40:23

brought up. There's a bit

40:25

of a backstory with this

40:27

particular photo. Person who originally

40:30

took this during the Belgian

40:32

UFO flap, okay, there was

40:34

a Belgian, known as the

40:36

Belgian wave in the 90s,

40:39

there was this insane wave

40:41

of triangular craft being spotted

40:43

throughout Belgium by actual military,

40:45

police, air force. A picture

40:48

was taken by a photographer

40:50

named Patrick Marichal. This photo

40:52

quickly became an iconic image

40:54

of the Belgian UFO wave

40:57

and was widely circulated in

40:59

books and documentaries and news

41:01

media. It was often praised

41:03

as like definitive proof. So

41:06

21 years later, apparently the

41:08

person who took it confessed

41:10

in 2011 that it was

41:12

indeed a hoax. But the

41:15

story goes a little deeper

41:17

for those who are willing

41:19

to follow me on this.

41:21

Subsequent interviews Patrick seemed to

41:24

walk back or soften his

41:26

confessions. He stated that he

41:28

was under a lot of

41:30

pressure and he also claimed

41:33

that the media distorted his

41:35

comments. Many experts agree that

41:37

the light in this photo

41:39

would be very hard to

41:41

hoax, nearly impossible. If you're

41:44

out there, I would love

41:46

to have the opportunity to

41:48

interview you about this photo.

41:50

Now let's talk about... What

41:53

Leserta thinks about this photo.

41:55

This is in fact a

41:57

genuine aerial object. It is

41:59

no way... extraterrestrial. Triangular aerial

42:02

objects in flight are simply not

42:04

used by alien species, or not

42:06

in this form at least. That

42:08

streamlined kind of form is a

42:10

human concept. It is one of

42:12

your own secret military projects that

42:15

you build with the help of

42:17

immature alien technology, technology that was

42:19

handed over to you by the

42:21

extraterrestrials during the 60s and 70s.

42:23

Generally, the form of the hull

42:25

for a genuine extraterrestrial ship is

42:27

of no consequence. For inside the

42:29

field itself, there are no exterior

42:31

forces that have any effect there.

42:33

In general, the ships have a

42:35

rounded-off form, and they are built

42:37

without hard edges, a disk or

42:39

a cylinder, so that the field

42:41

can flow more easily. Your projects

42:43

decree that along with the

42:46

alien drive field, there also

42:48

be a conventional jet engine

42:50

system, therefore, they are always

42:52

triangular. and built thus with

42:54

streamlining in order to be

42:56

steerable with this primitive recoil

42:58

principle. So interesting. This is

43:00

getting really, really interesting. Wow. Even

43:02

the four-chan whistleblower mentioned that triangular

43:05

crafts do not exist. Now, that's

43:07

a bold statement. For many of

43:09

you who listen to that, you

43:12

said, what is he talking about?

43:14

Of course, TR3B. There's these other

43:16

triangular shaped crafts that we've witnessed

43:19

in the past, but I think

43:21

what he meant was that these...

43:23

Ships aren't extraterrestrial. They're not something

43:25

that they've observed. And then if

43:28

we look at the Immaculate Constellation

43:30

document, which was added to Congress

43:32

as an official statement, they

43:34

had also mentioned that these

43:37

triangular crafts were ARV or

43:39

alien reproduction vehicles. So cool.

43:42

In the example here, the ship

43:44

glides above all on its genuine

43:47

field drive. Do you see the

43:49

distortion in the quasi-light in the

43:51

rotating cylinders? That is an

43:53

unmistakable indication for the

43:55

authenticity of the photo. But why, you

43:57

might ask, are there four cylinders?

44:00

That's unusual. Even the interval seems

44:02

to be incorrect. The coloring is

44:04

very dark and the interior optical

44:06

distortion is very noticeable. Presumably, a

44:08

reconstruction of the original system by

44:10

your scientists. Since the alien species

44:12

has just not given you any

44:14

more information since the disagreement, they

44:17

are rebuilding the system single-handedly without

44:19

actually being able to understand what

44:21

kind of dangerous thing they are

44:23

doing. Both of the forward cylinders

44:25

are too close to each other.

44:27

They will definitely flow into each

44:29

other. The color shows me a

44:32

powerful residual radiation. It was probably

44:34

the case that high elements were

44:36

used, again, as customary for the

44:38

shifting. It is in any case

44:40

very dangerous to be unsheeled in

44:42

the vicinity of the field. Did

44:44

the person who took the photo

44:46

display any kind of radiation and

44:49

burn damage? To me, this has

44:51

got to be the most interesting

44:53

portion. of this four-part series by

44:55

far. I am enamored right now.

44:57

I am completely enthralled. Question, I

44:59

don't know. Where do these military

45:01

UFOs come from? From the United

45:04

States? Answer, yes. I think generally

45:06

that's true from the Western continent.

45:08

Question, why do they fly over

45:10

thickly populated areas of Europe? This

45:12

photo comes from Belgium. That doesn't

45:14

make sense. Can you explain? Answer,

45:16

why is it that only I

45:18

am able to explain strange human

45:21

deeds? It's possible that these are

45:23

long-distance tests or tests with electromagnetic

45:25

camouflage systems. The old enemy of

45:27

the American nation is on this

45:29

side of the world, so why

45:31

wouldn't they test the here? At

45:33

home, they've had enough time to

45:36

have had their ships crossing back

45:38

and forth. Maybe they have aroused

45:40

too much observation there. With one

45:42

of those kinds of unstable field

45:44

structures, as your photo indicates, I

45:46

consider it somewhat improbable that that

45:48

ship is capable of making a

45:50

flight of that length over the

45:53

ocean. It's possible there is a

45:55

test station here on your continent.

45:57

Unfortunately... I don't know anything about

45:59

it. Interesting, saying that there might

46:01

be some secret military base in

46:03

the European continent? I don't doubt

46:05

it, probably. Question, many readers of

46:08

the first transcript have posed the

46:10

question how your original contact with

46:12

EF came about. I already know

46:14

the story from your narratives, but

46:16

could you repeat it here once

46:18

again for this volume and for

46:20

the new transcript? So, this mentions

46:22

the meeting between E.F. E.F. is

46:25

a person who set up this

46:27

meeting between Ola-K and Leserta. Of

46:29

course. Now, the story began about

46:31

two of your years ago. Here

46:33

in Sweden. I have been strongly

46:35

interested in your species and your

46:37

behavior since my youth. I had

46:40

already studied your literature at that

46:42

time as well as possible. Naturally.

46:44

It is not easy in my

46:46

homeland to come into possession of

46:48

human books, but since my group

46:50

or family stands in a higher

46:52

ranking order, I was able to

46:54

gather some material together and sometimes

46:57

to speak with others of my

46:59

kind who have already been in

47:01

contact with you. I was really

47:03

very curious about your species, and

47:05

as soon as I was allowed

47:07

to come to the surface, I

47:09

attempted to assemble more information immediately.

47:12

Above all, it was expressly forbidden

47:14

for me to commence direct contact

47:16

with humans, because in my position

47:18

at that time, there existed no

47:20

necessity for doing so. Very cool

47:22

that she's just kind of curious

47:24

about humans in the way that,

47:26

you know, a young person might

47:29

be curious about extraterrestrials. It

47:32

was in your year 1998 when

47:35

I was on my way further

47:37

north from here in the remote

47:39

forests in the vicinity of the

47:42

entrance to my world and was

47:44

looking for biological specimens, which we

47:46

use in order to watch over

47:49

environmental pollution and destruction of your

47:51

flora and fauna statistically by your

47:53

own kind. At that time I

47:55

was already on the return path

47:58

to the entrance. We can even

48:00

orient... ourselves more easily through our

48:02

senses to the Earth's magnetic field

48:05

and already in the vicinity of

48:07

the large lake, when much to

48:09

my surprise, I came across a

48:12

cabin in the woods. In this

48:14

cabin I sensed a human consciousness

48:16

slash awareness. It was E.F. actually.

48:19

I had no permission for contact

48:21

with another species, but by the

48:23

same token, I had set in

48:26

place my mimicry capability quite successfully

48:28

prior to this, even with larger

48:30

groups of you. I had never

48:33

ever come across a human being

48:35

when I was alone. Now, let's

48:37

call it primitive curiosity. I wanted

48:40

to talk with a person in

48:42

this cabin, and so I knocked

48:44

on the door. E. Open the

48:47

door. And we got into an

48:49

interesting conversation. His language was not

48:51

quite yet... common at that time

48:54

for me, but it's not all

48:56

that hard to learn a new

48:58

language when one can read the

49:01

information in the consciousness slash awareness

49:03

of the opposite individual. I simply

49:05

told him that I came from

49:08

a foreign country in the East.

49:10

Of course, at the time, he

49:12

did not really, quote unquote, recognize

49:15

who I was. He was totally

49:17

convinced that he was talking with

49:19

a creature of his own kind,

49:22

although... It was simply only a

49:24

mimicry image. I love this. This

49:26

is a cool story. Since my

49:29

assignment anyway had its own goal

49:31

and investigation of this terrain, which

49:33

was to last for several days,

49:36

I visited him in this span

49:38

of time three times as a

49:40

human person. At first, we talked

49:43

mainly about really ordinary things. Later...

49:45

We got into religious and physical

49:47

topics. He seemed to be impressed

49:50

by my knowledge and I was

49:52

likewise impressed with his clear thoughts

49:54

and his, for a human being,

49:57

well- displayed person... personality structure and

49:59

his own opinions. You really like

50:01

giving yourselves over completely to a

50:04

public opinion or conditioning, as for

50:06

example, reptilian species are evil and

50:08

stuff like that. I steered the

50:11

conversation in the direction. Am I

50:13

the only one wondering if they

50:15

hooked up? It sounds like a

50:18

third date type of scenario. I

50:20

don't know. Just throwing that out

50:22

there. There's probably a category on

50:25

the hub. All right, moving on.

50:27

Head out of the gutter, folks.

50:29

I steered the conversation in this

50:32

direction, and EF said something to

50:34

the effect that he believed in

50:36

alien species, and that they did

50:39

not have to necessarily be evil,

50:41

but perhaps only different than his

50:43

kind are. That pleased me. At

50:46

that juncture of time, of course,

50:48

I could not speak concretely with

50:50

him about my knowledge, because he

50:53

wouldn't have believed me. He would

50:55

have taken me for a human

50:57

practical joker. I cultivated the very,

51:00

very unusual idea for my kind

51:02

to show him my true exterior,

51:04

something that I did during our

51:07

conversation at the fourth meeting in

51:09

the cabin. Actually, he was predestined

51:11

for contact. He was open-minded, honest,

51:14

intelligent, not religiously inclined or conditioned.

51:16

He lived alone and isolated. And

51:18

no one... would believe him should

51:21

he decide to go public with

51:23

his story. I dared to take

51:25

the step, but then I had

51:28

serious doubts about the propriety of

51:30

my act, especially when he reacted,

51:32

very violently. He got control of

51:35

himself again after a time and

51:37

we could finally talk concretely about

51:39

definitive definite matters. Now he had

51:42

no choice but to believe me.

51:44

This was the beginning of a

51:46

series of meetings which initially took

51:49

place there in the woods, but

51:51

later took place in his remote

51:53

residence. Finally, he brought you into

51:56

contact with me. And for that

51:58

reason, we are now sitting here

52:00

once again and talking about things,

52:03

which probably won't be believed out

52:05

there in human society. Whoa. Okay.

52:07

Always a little bit fishy was

52:09

this idea of meeting with some

52:11

type of journalists here to spread

52:13

information, although they did not want

52:16

to be brought into the light.

52:18

They wanted to remain secretive. Then

52:20

yet, why are you holding this

52:22

conversation? This makes a lot more sense.

52:25

She kind of stumbled into this.

52:27

situation and her curiosity

52:29

got the best of her. I feel

52:31

like she's hoping no one will

52:33

believe what she's saying and that's

52:36

why she keeps repeating no one's

52:38

gonna believe it no one's gonna

52:40

believe it. I don't I think

52:42

she underestimates a lot of us out there.

52:45

Super interesting. This is wild. Anybody

52:47

else want to see like a

52:49

major motion picture done? This

52:51

would be so cool. Question. You said

52:54

you would not have had permission

52:56

at that time for contact with

52:58

human beings? Do you now then have permission

53:00

to talk with EF and me

53:02

about all these things and even

53:04

to make this scientifically public? Answer,

53:06

yes, that is difficult to

53:09

explain and for you to

53:11

understand. Let's just say, I

53:13

find myself in the position

53:15

now to arrange this permission

53:17

without having to take into

53:19

account any consequences. In this

53:21

position, I am quasi-imune against

53:23

certain restrictions. Let's look at it

53:25

that way. Yes. Question, if other

53:27

people want to come into contact

53:29

with your kind, do they have a

53:31

chance to do so? Answer, generally not. We

53:33

avoid contact with you and we

53:35

operate on the surface only in remote

53:38

areas, and there we use mimicry techniques

53:40

in case we should meet some people.

53:42

That I am talking with you now

53:45

does not mean that others will follow

53:47

my example. It goes without saying that

53:49

you could try to find an entrance

53:52

to my world and penetrate your way

53:54

into there. However, that can sooner

53:56

lead to unpleasant consequences

53:58

for the infiltrate... trader.

54:00

You have next to no chances

54:02

on the surface of recognizing us.

54:05

You can't even contact us directly.

54:07

We have to contact you, just

54:09

as I did with EF. Those

54:12

kinds of contacts, however, are not

54:14

the rule, but are very rare

54:16

occurrences. A non-zero chance that I'll

54:18

have a reptilian on this podcast

54:21

eventually. Or who knows? Maybe I

54:23

already have. No. I haven't, because

54:25

they can't be on camera. Question,

54:27

can you describe your subterranean homeland

54:30

location? Answer, I can attempt to

54:32

do so, but I certainly will

54:34

not tell you where this place

54:37

is located. My homeland lies in

54:39

one of our smaller underground settlements

54:41

to the east of here. I'll

54:43

give you some numbers so that

54:46

you can make a better impression

54:48

for yourself. Just a minute. I

54:50

have to try to convert the

54:52

measurements approximately into your units. It

54:55

is a dome-shaped cavern. At a

54:57

distance of about... 4,300 meters from

54:59

Earth's surface. The cavern was organized

55:02

as a colony about 3,000 years

55:04

ago, a major portion of the

55:06

ceiling structures artificially integrated into the

55:08

rock, and the form was remodeled

55:11

into an almost elegantly proportioned and

55:13

very flat dome with an oval

55:15

ground plan. The diameter of the

55:17

dome, according to your measures, is

55:20

about 2.5 kilometers. The height of

55:22

the dome, at the highest point,

55:24

is about 220 meters. Underneath that

55:27

highest point in every colony there

55:29

stands a special whitish-gray cylindrical building

55:31

a kind of supporting column which

55:33

holds the honeycomb net-carrying structure of

55:36

the dome. This building is the

55:38

tallest largest and oldest in the

55:40

entire dome for it is always

55:42

situated as the first construction together

55:45

with the security of the ceiling.

55:47

In the meantime of course there

55:49

were times when it was completed

55:52

and reconditioned. That building has a

55:54

very special name and religious significance.

55:56

We have only one of those

55:58

columns. Larger colonies have more columns

56:01

according to the construction of the

56:03

ceiling. One of the main colonies

56:05

in inner Asia has an example

56:07

nine of those kinds of supports,

56:10

but that colony also has over

56:12

25 of your kilometers in size.

56:14

The central building is generally a

56:17

center of religion. but also a

56:19

center for climate control and a

56:21

center for the behavior and the

56:23

regulation of the lighting system. We

56:26

have at our location altogether five

56:28

large artificial light sources which generate

56:30

your UV light and it's warmth

56:32

through gravitational sources. The air shafts

56:35

in the light systems from the

56:37

surface likewise run through these columns

56:39

and naturally they are very intensely

56:42

controlled. That's very interesting. What about

56:44

their sewage? Like where does that

56:46

go? Wouldn't it just like stink

56:48

under there? Wouldn't that, like where

56:51

does that air end up going?

56:53

Strange question, I know, I get

56:55

it, but also I'm just trying

56:58

to like poke holes in this.

57:00

By the way, we have three

57:02

air shafts and two elevator systems

57:04

there. and even a tunnel connection

57:07

to the next main colony, which

57:09

lies approximately 500 kilometers to the

57:11

southeast. One elevator shaft leads to

57:13

the cavern near the surface, the

57:16

other leads to one of four

57:18

depots for the ships. You remember,

57:20

the cylindrical ships. That is naturally

57:23

concealed closer to the surface behind

57:25

a rocky mountain face. Normally, there

57:27

are only three ships there. It's

57:29

a small depot. The other buildings

57:32

of the colony are, for the

57:34

most part, concentrically ordered in oval

57:36

circles around the main supporting column.

57:38

and they are without exception much

57:41

flatter. Generally only between 3 and

57:43

20 meters tall. The shape of

57:45

the buildings is round, dome-like, the

57:48

color is even differentiated according to

57:50

the circle and distance from the

57:52

main column. Okay. Interesting little descriptions

57:54

of all of this. To the

57:57

north of the column there is

57:59

an additional... very large but very

58:01

flat round building. This building

58:03

interrupts the concentric system of

58:05

the colony with its diameter

58:08

of about 250 meters. It

58:10

is the artificial sun zone in

58:12

which specially illuminated corridors and rooms

58:14

are housed. In these locations very

58:17

powerful UV light predominates and they

58:19

are used in order to warm

58:21

our blood. There is even a medical

58:24

dispensary and a meeting room located

58:26

there. Beyond the outer ring of

58:28

the colony there are zones in

58:30

which animals are kept. You know,

58:32

we must consume flesh as nourishment.

58:34

And the gardens in which plant

58:37

nourishment and mushrooms are

58:39

cultures are cultivated. There is

58:41

also hot and cold running water there

58:43

from subterranean sources. The power station

58:45

is located on the edge of

58:47

the colony. The station is driven

58:49

by fusion as its base and

58:51

it supplies the colony and the

58:53

sun's with energy. My group or

58:55

family. lives, by the way, in

58:58

the fourth ring of the buildings,

59:00

out from the central support column.

59:02

So much in such a short

59:04

time. To describe to you all

59:06

the buildings and their tasks would

59:08

be going too far. It is

59:10

difficult to describe something like that

59:12

to you, for it is a

59:14

completely different set of surroundings and

59:16

culture from what you are accustomed

59:18

to in your life on the surface.

59:20

You really have to see it for

59:22

yourself to be able to believe it. I

59:24

would give a lot. To get a tour. in

59:27

one of those. Man, that would

59:29

be cool. Might be the last

59:31

thing you end up seeing

59:33

though. Question, will I myself

59:35

see it sometime? Answer, who

59:37

knows? Maybe. Time brings new

59:40

opportunities. Whoa. Oh, I

59:42

just got goosebumps. Maybe

59:44

that's why we've never heard

59:46

from this guy ever

59:49

again. Question, how many

59:51

creatures of your kind

59:53

live in this colony?

59:55

Approximately 900. Question. That

59:57

is the end of the interview. Do you have any final

59:59

messages for the readers of this

1:00:01

transcript? Yes. I am thoroughly

1:00:03

surprised at the many comments

1:00:06

to my words. Of course,

1:00:08

I am naturally also disappointed

1:00:10

about the religious portrayals of

1:00:13

me as the enemy which

1:00:15

have been voiced and which

1:00:17

have been buried themselves deeply

1:00:20

in your mind. You should

1:00:22

learn to set yourselves apart

1:00:25

from the old conditioning and

1:00:27

not to stand quasi under

1:00:29

the control of something or

1:00:32

someone who has already been

1:00:34

gone for 5,000 years. You

1:00:36

are, after all, free spirits.

1:00:39

Those are my final words.

1:00:41

End of le certifile, too.

1:00:43

I'm a little sad about

1:00:46

the end of that. I,

1:00:48

I, you know, something in

1:00:50

me. I had a gut,

1:00:53

a negative gut reaction to

1:00:55

this being in the beginning

1:00:57

of these interviews. mainly because

1:01:00

of her disdain and her

1:01:02

condescending nature. Then towards the

1:01:04

middle I began understanding why

1:01:07

she felt this way towards

1:01:09

us. And in the end,

1:01:11

I kind of like her.

1:01:14

It wasn't until she mentioned

1:01:16

her own sort of curiosity

1:01:18

that I was more taken

1:01:21

by this being. Because

1:01:23

that shows me something that I

1:01:25

can relate to, this genuine curiosity.

1:01:28

The same curiosity that we are

1:01:30

currently experiencing, reading about her kind,

1:01:32

is perhaps the curiosity that she

1:01:34

displayed when seeing this little cabin

1:01:36

and sensing a presence within it.

1:01:38

I love the idea that she

1:01:41

just gave us a small taste

1:01:43

of her world. And she's absolutely

1:01:45

right, you know, just by even

1:01:47

going through the... colonies and columns

1:01:49

and the different areas, it's a

1:01:52

lot for us to take in.

1:01:54

You know, I'm currently watching the

1:01:56

show Severance. I don't know if

1:01:58

you guys follow that on Apple

1:02:00

TV. It's really good. Probably one

1:02:02

of the best sort of sci-fi

1:02:05

stories, you know, in a long

1:02:07

time, but it's so mysterious. like

1:02:09

the whole world itself is just

1:02:11

too much to grasp at once

1:02:13

we get these little and that's

1:02:15

kind of what this feels like

1:02:18

like if you were to stumble

1:02:20

into a new world with a

1:02:22

new species that had a completely

1:02:24

different culture religion and society it

1:02:26

wouldn't be so easily relatable to

1:02:29

your own there would you would

1:02:31

have to consume it in small

1:02:33

bits because it's like starting a

1:02:35

movie you know halfway in you're

1:02:37

like what's going on? Who are

1:02:39

these characters? Where are we? I'm

1:02:42

very curious to know your thoughts.

1:02:44

I can't wait to read the

1:02:46

comments on this video. I was

1:02:48

hoping we were going to learn

1:02:50

a little bit more about their

1:02:52

culture and their society and I

1:02:55

didn't actually think I'd get to

1:02:57

know Lucerda a little bit more

1:02:59

on a personal basis and that

1:03:01

was a fun surprise. So if

1:03:03

you did enjoy this content folks.

1:03:06

Let me know in the comments

1:03:08

because I would love nothing more

1:03:10

than to bring you more of

1:03:12

these conversations between humans and aliens

1:03:14

that exist out there. I've done

1:03:16

my research and I've compiled quite

1:03:19

a few of them and I

1:03:21

think it would be fascinating to

1:03:23

run through them, of course, with

1:03:25

all of you. Folks, thank you

1:03:27

so much for joining me on

1:03:29

this journey. Highly appreciate it. Make

1:03:32

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