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This week we are going to take

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a look at our at our stations and

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give you our take on how

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great they are how where we think

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you can take it to the next

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level. Welcome to Destination

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we discuss the latest news,

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hot topics, gaming, mobile, hot

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and all things gaming, mobile and

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all My name is Jill

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and with me are my

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and with me are my digital muses. Michael Ann

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Ryan. Man, that that made my

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there. there. That means I

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inspire. Michael, as a Jill, Michael, is

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a muse. Jill. I inspire Jill. thing

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about that. interesting

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about because it's not interesting about

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because it's not necessarily because

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you inspire her deep discussion

0:44

about to have a deep discussion

0:46

about what exactly inspires it's definitely not

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your artwork. not your seen that. She's seen

0:51

seen that that. not that that. I

0:53

don't know what it could be,

0:55

but. be, but. I've made some incredible art

0:57

over the years, and I remember years

0:59

and I giving me the feedback that

1:01

it was a good use of negative

1:03

space, so. that it That's a nice

1:05

way of saying, I can't look at

1:07

anything other than the emptiness. Ryan. That's a

1:09

nice way of saying I can't look at

1:11

anything other than the emptiness. And we

1:14

will also be discussing

1:16

System 76 upping their

1:18

game, their game and tricks, and

1:20

software picks. Now,

1:23

let's get the show on

1:25

the road get the show on the road toward

1:27

Destination Linux. So

1:29

our community feedback

1:31

this week comes

1:33

from community feedback this week

1:35

comes from the Tom

1:38

says, I just saw the

1:40

unedited version of Linux episode 400.

1:42

Is that because it had be be edited Michael?

1:44

No, they're a That's how That's how they saw

1:46

it. There you go. There you go. did

1:48

have we did have technical issues

1:50

last week. We did have

1:52

technical issues. There was So So here's the funny

1:54

thing is, that after the show, we talked about

1:56

what, what we can do to make this work.

1:58

And there was some comp. ways and there was also the

2:01

also the easier way. And of

2:03

course, Ryan suggested the easier way. I

2:05

And I thought about how complicated it

2:07

would be. And I said to Wendy

2:09

hey you just use Ryan's method and just

2:11

use the easier way. I I knew

2:13

for a fact, there was no

2:15

chance she was going to do that.

2:17

But I said, I gave her

2:19

the permission, just do her the edit. And

2:21

she the % did not do that.

2:23

And it was a lot more complicated.

2:25

it was a lot more complicated. The The episode

2:27

turned out amazing. That makes sense because

2:29

was I it. I thought she used

2:31

the easy method I suggested. And

2:33

I was like, like, wow, this turned out

2:35

great. My My suggestions. Wonderful. Turns out it's not

2:37

what happened. No. what happened. had to also had

2:39

to move the cameras the because the

2:41

way the cameras are displayed in

2:44

the recording is different from is the

2:46

visuals the way the actual video. the So

2:48

the video. So the has been improved. audio did

2:50

a lot of stuff. She did a an

2:52

incredible editor, the best editor. You

2:54

know what I mean? Just the greatest.

2:56

That's a really good way to

2:58

suck up. Good job. Good it Don't put my

3:00

face over here right here. Again. Again.

3:02

Yeah. Tom goes on to say, thank on to

3:04

say the you all for the wonderful episode.

3:06

Thank you, Wendy, for the awesome editing.

3:09

at that. Tom, new. though there was

3:11

though there was a notice in the beginning about

3:13

software crash that limited the scenes, it was

3:15

excellent. was I love the video version. the video

3:17

all the To the members past

3:19

and present. members passed and present. Rob.

3:22

Rocco. Big Daddy Ryan, Ryan,

3:24

Daskeek, Michael, Text, Digital, Zebs, Zebity,

3:26

Boss, Noah, and Jill.

3:28

To all to all the guest hosts,

3:30

all all the -scenes members and patrons members

3:32

make the show possible. who all make the

3:35

show possible. Merry Christmas Christmas

3:37

New Year Happy New Year Best

3:39

regards and many blessings. many

3:41

Tom from Puerto Rico. That's

3:44

an incredible message, like. message.

3:46

Like, You can't get any better

3:48

than that. than that. the proper way to

3:50

end. end. this year on shows you know right

3:52

there know, right there, Tom? lot

3:54

to a lot to us. Thank you. Tom Tom.

3:57

still hasn't learned to

3:59

set unmute though, which which is

4:01

fantastic. New Year's resolution for how to work a

4:03

mute to work a mute

4:05

button. work out his thumbs and hopefully be out his that

4:07

he can hopefully be strong enough that he

4:09

can click it next want you started saying

4:12

that, I just wanna make it clear, before

4:14

he started giving me a hard time,

4:16

I did notice that the thing was muted

4:18

and I was about to do it

4:20

and then he starts giving me a hard

4:22

time. me a hard time. And fair enough. enough. I don't

4:24

don't even know what I was going to

4:26

say because to say because much it was was it

4:28

was such a good statement that I

4:30

had such a good statement it, but this

4:32

just be a tribute to whatever

4:35

it'll be a tribute. Yes just

4:37

be it is a fantastic you're saying.

4:39

But it and also feedback is this

4:41

is a big announcement for

4:43

people. This is the last episode

4:45

people. This is the last episode of

4:48

2024. for 2024. I don't

4:50

think anybody was scared. No,

4:53

I don't think I don't

4:55

think anybody was scared. episode I

4:57

don't think so. We just had we're

4:59

ending the series. We're not going to series. We're

5:01

not gonna to end up 401 -0 -1, because

5:03

that makes makes a lot sense, yeah. Yeah. So

5:05

this is, we're not not gonna be, what

5:07

I'm saying is we're not recording

5:09

next week because the recording day

5:11

lands literally on Christmas. day So we're

5:13

going to be taking that week

5:15

off going we'll come back the

5:17

week after that. week So we're gonna

5:19

be starting fresh. back the week after

5:21

that. So we're gonna be starting is

5:23

the next Wednesday. New next,

5:25

next, next, next, is the

5:27

starting fresh. Next, next, next,

5:30

next, next. We're starting fresh.

5:32

And 2025. And 2025. Yes, first of

5:34

all I of all, to I I

5:36

want to say incredible support for

5:38

show. show. Really appreciate everyone showing

5:41

It was so much fun fun

5:43

with people live. live. Like I really

5:45

enjoyed that. and you are so

5:47

awesome you way. with us interacted

5:49

with us and really got into the

5:51

bits and all of those pieces and

5:53

also the shoutouts from all the different countries. was

5:56

incredible. Like. Mm Like the fact

5:58

some of of the people who were showing

6:00

up, Michael, were staying up till

6:03

two, three o'clock in the morning.

6:05

Oh, yeah. Just to catch the

6:07

live show, which... So, yeah. Jill

6:09

deserves that, but me and Michael

6:11

don't, so we appreciate you showing

6:14

up for Jill. We appreciate you

6:16

all night long. Making us feel

6:18

good that you're here for Jill.

6:20

Yes, exactly. Someone left a comment

6:22

in the YouTube comment that was

6:25

really funny, Michael. I think you

6:27

liked it from our official account,

6:29

what it was like. Really love

6:31

Jill and something about in those

6:33

other two guys. Yeah, whatever their

6:36

names are, whatever their names. Oh,

6:38

we get it. We love Jill

6:40

that much too. I love you

6:42

guys very, very much. Yes, my

6:44

best. Guess we could be sweet

6:47

at the end of the year,

6:49

right? We could be. Michael, your

6:51

thumbs are gaining strength every day.

6:53

That is the weirdest comment I've

6:55

ever had. Thanks, I guess. All

6:58

right. If you want to send

7:00

in your feedback, go to destinationlinics.net/comments

7:02

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7:04

We will check them out. In

7:06

fact, in this episode, we had

7:09

done a call out to the

7:11

community to do something. And we're

7:13

going to share that with you.

7:15

In this episode, we're going to

7:17

give you your feedback on it

7:20

with the Battle Station stuff. So

7:22

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7:24

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7:26

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we talk about 20 hosts for

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this up on 20 different battle

9:52

stations if you want. Oh, nice.

9:54

Absolutely. And so did there. You

9:56

like that transition? That was that

9:58

was amazing. Probably my best transition

10:00

of 2024. One of the best.

10:03

One of the best. So did

10:05

it. Jill's always. Jill's always positive

10:07

no matter what. It was terrible

10:09

and Jill's like, yes it is,

10:11

you're very good. You do a

10:14

good job. You do a negative

10:16

space. Exactly. A few weeks back

10:18

we asked you to send us

10:20

pictures of your battle stations and

10:22

we were not disappointed. I enjoyed

10:25

looking at those so much because

10:27

everybody has a different take on

10:29

their battle station setup. Some people

10:31

are utilizing TV, some people are

10:33

using gaming devices as their main

10:36

machines, people are utilizing all kinds

10:38

of people who have limited space,

10:40

lots of space, lots of space.

10:42

It's incredible, man. Like I just

10:44

love to see where, you know,

10:47

potentially you watch this show, where

10:49

you write incredible software, where you

10:51

game. where you send us nasty

10:53

letters sometimes that's all of that

10:55

stuff happens right there on those

10:58

battle stations so you know we

11:00

love to see where you're sending

11:02

our nasty your hate mail towards

11:04

us you're very I don't think

11:06

that anybody who would send any

11:09

in their battle stations to us

11:11

would send in hate mail I

11:13

don't think that's even a possibility

11:15

yeah they're gonna take the time

11:17

to send us a battle station

11:20

But it would be funny if

11:22

someone sent this is where put

11:24

their picture and they're like this

11:26

is where I sent my nasty

11:28

email about blah blah blah blah.

11:31

Like oh that helps me picture.

11:33

Or they had their their nasty

11:35

email in the screenshot on the

11:37

monitor. But see I know you're

11:39

right Michael because when I look

11:42

through the pictures there was not

11:44

a bag of Cheetos in the

11:46

pictures. Like that's true. And the

11:48

Cheetos Fangers is the proof that

11:50

yeah. And then there's no Cheeto

11:53

dusts on any of the keyboard.

11:55

make it in with their battle

11:57

station photos next time though. Or

11:59

you still, you still have time,

12:01

you can go post them now.

12:04

So periodically we're going to cover

12:06

some of our favorites on the

12:08

show and we're going to do

12:10

some different things with those pictures

12:12

you know to kind of give

12:15

some content around them because you

12:17

took the time to send them

12:19

in, we want to talk about

12:21

them. So you can still join

12:23

in on the fun, it's on

12:26

our discord, you'll see a battle

12:28

station thread there, and you can

12:30

see all of the awesome battle

12:32

stations battle stations of our listeners

12:34

of our listeners. You can go

12:37

to the announcement section on the

12:39

discord room, and there's a link

12:41

directly to the battle station's thread.

12:43

There you go. So we're going

12:45

to do our best to describe

12:48

this, because this is going to

12:50

be better. Obviously, Wendy and her

12:52

amazing editing is going to put

12:54

the picture up for those watching

12:56

on YouTube. But for those listening,

12:59

we're going to do our best

13:01

to describe what we have in

13:03

the picture. So our first submission

13:05

was from Kavan, I think is

13:07

the proper way to use our

13:10

username. But they have a really

13:12

nice laptop monitor combo. And the

13:14

monitor is up on a stand,

13:16

and they appear to be running

13:18

Raspian OS and an emulator in

13:21

the corner. I don't think they're

13:23

using raspberry pies or main OS,

13:25

but look like maybe an emulator

13:27

in the corner. I have to

13:29

let us know. And they also

13:32

have a bunch of older computers

13:34

in the background, Jill. And I

13:36

was wondering if you had an

13:38

ability to identify what those work,

13:41

because this one really peaked my

13:43

interest. Cavann was actually our first

13:45

submission and I loved all his

13:47

retrocomputers and yes Ryan that is

13:49

an Apple too and I identified

13:52

it immediately as well as the

13:54

mini PDP looking computer and I

13:56

actually had a wonderful chat with

13:58

Cavann. He said keep looking Jill

14:00

there's more on that pick. I

14:03

told him awesome. Treasure hunt at

14:05

Cavann's house. We'll do. It is

14:07

a bit dark on the right

14:09

hand side and I do see

14:11

another beige box on the floor.

14:14

But what treasure could that be?

14:16

L-O-L. Well, one computer I guessed

14:18

as an old school ultra-portable, but

14:20

couldn't see the name brand. Cavann

14:22

states, spoiler fence, if everything was

14:25

more clear, you would also see

14:27

a retro Sinclair, a K-Pro-4, and

14:29

a Naboo computer. The K-Pro-4 was

14:31

released in 1984, and it is

14:33

an Ultra Portable, lugable winging and

14:36

at 24 pounds. Oh, so portable.

14:38

Yes. I actually have other lugable

14:40

computers in my collection that weigh

14:42

up to 50 to 80 pounds.

14:44

So this one is light. No

14:47

light. Yeah. Ultra portable. Ultra portable.

14:49

Give Mac and Intel and everyone

14:51

to run for their money on

14:53

those. Yeah. And this is something

14:55

I was I was thought was

14:58

really cool. And the mini PDP

15:00

looking computer, Kavan states. Hmm. Hmm.

15:02

Now that I look at my

15:04

own pick, I see it's too

15:06

dark. The raspberry pie is in

15:09

the retro pie DP10. Hmm. The

15:11

pie DP10. The pie DP10 is

15:13

a two-third scale reproduction of the

15:15

original deck PDP10 mainframe computer that

15:17

came out in 1966. And the

15:20

pie DP10 is especially made for

15:22

the raspberry pie as the title

15:24

suggests. So that was really cool.

15:26

I know it was a PDP,

15:28

but it wasn't the quite quite

15:31

the right size. So, Ryan, could

15:33

you list all those computers back

15:35

to back verbatim? Oh, yeah, there

15:37

was the P2P rice in Krav

15:39

and then the 1621 beige box.

15:42

Yep, nailed it. Yeah, okay, good.

15:44

Perfect. Well. Jill out of all

15:46

of those computers because there's a

15:48

lot of cool ones here, which

15:50

one is your favorite? Oh boy,

15:53

I'd have to say the K-Pro

15:55

4. Well, it was, it was

15:57

the first quote, ultra portable, lugable,

15:59

and everyone in the industry tried

16:01

to copy it. Oh, interesting. Okay.

16:04

Yeah. So it was, it was

16:06

one everyone tried to copy and

16:08

make their own version of, but

16:10

they ended up making ones that

16:12

were much heavier than the capro

16:15

at 24 pounds. So, and I

16:17

just have a cake. I do

16:19

have a K-Pro in my collection.

16:21

I don't have the four, but

16:23

I have another one. Looking at

16:26

the K-Pro, I had seen computers

16:28

that look like this when I

16:30

was growing up. Obviously, they weren't

16:32

really in use at that point.

16:34

But I remember seeing them in

16:37

the back of my dad's computer

16:39

shop, like in bins and stuff

16:41

like that for parts and things

16:43

over the years. But they're very

16:45

cool looking. machines and everything is

16:48

built, almost built in except the

16:50

keyboard, is kind of separate. The

16:52

keyboard usually snaps on the front

16:54

where the monitor is and the

16:56

floppy drives. It just kind of

16:59

snaps on and then there's a

17:01

handle on the computer that you

17:03

can carry it. Very cool. No,

17:05

no, there's not. That's a handle

17:07

there, but it doesn't help to

17:10

carry it. Those things are so

17:12

heavy that that plastic handle is

17:14

like... You basically ignore it and

17:16

try to get like some kind

17:18

of strap around it or something.

17:21

Well, mine actually have a couple

17:23

of my ultra-portables have really heavy-duty

17:25

rubber handles. That's good. The one

17:27

in the photo looks like a

17:29

plastic one. Yeah, yeah, it's more

17:32

the K-Pro one and that's one

17:34

of the reasons why it's a

17:36

little lighter. It doesn't have as

17:38

hefti handle on it. But what

17:40

was so funny is when I

17:43

moved to this house and moved

17:45

in with my husband, he couldn't

17:47

believe I I picked it up

17:49

and moved it myself in the

17:51

house. One of the ones I

17:54

have is 80 pounds and eventually

17:56

I will show you that one

17:58

during a treasure hunt. Brian

18:00

you have needle have but Jill but Jill

18:02

doesn't. yeah Joe Joe can can lift

18:04

lots of weight. I unfortunately Don't have

18:06

the ability have the ability to

18:08

do that. what I don't know what

18:10

done with computers What What would you

18:13

do with those those of computers?

18:15

are ultra portable for her, but

18:17

for for her for you? me, it's

18:19

impossible. That's just a stationary a stationary

18:21

pole concrete and the I remember my dad having a

18:23

remember my dad having was computer. I

18:25

don't know what was meant to be

18:27

portable. I remember he carried around in

18:29

this big, giant case case, you know, it

18:31

had the metal snaps and everything. it was

18:34

And it was for demos to he'd

18:36

go to customer sites you'd this giant case

18:38

up and show the machine was he

18:40

was selling software and stuff from it. but

18:42

it's it's just amazing to think it

18:44

was only a few years later years they

18:46

were very heavy, but laptops were very

18:49

popular, you know, they were expensive, know

18:51

they were very heavy. But they're very giant the

18:53

first laptop were so also hilarious because

18:55

if you if you if you like I

18:57

to show like like you know kids

18:59

these days like here's what an

19:01

original laptop looked like like yeah be

19:03

like this giant briefcase yes yeah yeah it's

19:05

technology really technology really as far as

19:08

getting things down to size has

19:10

gotten to the point where now

19:12

so small are getting so small,

19:14

it's annoying. longer like longer like. the technology

19:17

the technology, they're just sake of it can't

19:19

repair it, you can't upgrade it, you

19:21

can't do anything with it, but but

19:23

it's thin. and to me,

19:25

that's like, like yeah It's now

19:27

2.7 2 .7 of the super

19:29

of the super bulky You

19:32

know, .9 millimeters. show on

19:34

You know, there's an right now. I show

19:36

on Netflix right now. it's I

19:38

don't remember the name of it,

19:40

but it's basically about consumption. It

19:42

may be named or something like that,

19:44

but But the is that the whole The

19:46

whole theory behind it is that companies

19:49

now have to create a constant. Need

19:51

of of refreshing your device, right for

19:53

for the money to for stockholders

19:55

and everybody else. So, else you

19:57

know, know Apple got caught slowing down

20:00

on their phones on purpose, other companies

20:02

have done similar things in the

20:04

past. Everybody just has to, even

20:06

clothing, they had a lot with

20:08

clothing, which I thought was fascinating.

20:10

There is so much clothing in

20:12

the world, and yet we're constantly,

20:14

like, they create this, you know,

20:16

there's like, there's a new limited

20:18

edition stuff, like for a streetwear,

20:20

stuff like that, that it's like,

20:22

well, at least those are okay,

20:24

because they do, they create more

20:26

and more, in my opinion, like,

20:28

like, like, like, for shoes. they

20:30

have like Nike does this limited

20:32

addition drops that they do like

20:34

every week or something and they

20:36

only have like a hundred of

20:38

them and that actually is limited

20:40

so like if they were doing

20:42

this and they were producing masses

20:44

of amounts it would be that

20:46

would it's it's already bad that

20:48

they're doing it constantly but it's

20:50

also would be horrible if they

20:52

had like they're doing false it's

20:54

still a different problem because it's

20:56

it's false scare scarcity Yeah, that's

20:58

that the term. But that's close

21:00

enough to it. But they're creating

21:02

this false sense of, you know,

21:04

that there's limited supply of this

21:06

thing. And they also show in

21:08

the show, like all these luxury

21:10

brands are coming off the same

21:12

assembly line as like the non-luxury

21:15

brands. They're just stamping names on

21:17

it. Like, here's the thing. The

21:19

funny part about it is that

21:21

with luxury brands, a lot of

21:23

people, the people who are buying

21:25

them typically know that they're not

21:27

that much different. it's also just

21:29

the brand is the main piece

21:31

but they're okay with that and

21:33

if that's your reasoning then okay

21:35

fine fair enough but the fast

21:37

fashion is what blows my mind

21:39

because it is terrible quality that

21:41

is designed to fall apart but

21:43

be good looking for like a

21:45

week like that stuff it's crazy

21:47

behind all of this discussion is

21:49

to say like it's sad that

21:51

there's several companies that have tried

21:53

to create a modular phone and

21:55

have because you could still, meaning

21:57

Apple can still and other companies

21:59

out there, could still re-release their

22:01

new version of a module, right,

22:03

where you're not throwing away this

22:05

entire phone or, you know, a

22:07

lot of people do not turn

22:09

their devices back in, because some

22:11

people go, oh, we'll just recycle

22:13

the device. A lot of people

22:15

don't. I know people have their

22:17

original phones and they just store

22:19

every phone they ever had in

22:21

a closet. And every computer that

22:23

they have, they don't turn them

22:25

back in and recycle them, they

22:27

don't do any of them, so

22:29

this stuff is just waste, right?

22:31

Or they throw them in the

22:33

trash. Is it technically waste if

22:35

you keep it for nostalgia's sake?

22:37

Maybe not, like if you're keeping

22:39

it for some nostalgia, but I

22:41

think- If you're throwing into the

22:44

garbage, that is waste. It's just

22:46

going in the waste, right, yeah.

22:48

But like, for example, I would

22:50

suspect Jill has most of the

22:52

phones she's ever got. She's ever

22:54

got. Yeah. Well, she has a

22:56

museum. It's a little bit different.

22:58

It's beyond every phone I have

23:00

as well. Like every phone I've

23:02

ever had, I still have it

23:04

in a box in my closet.

23:06

Is that excessive? Oh, okay, first

23:08

of all. Imagine you didn't have

23:10

to do that. Imagine you just

23:12

had module. It would be nice

23:14

if I didn't have to. But

23:16

like, for example, my poem pre,

23:18

I want to keep that. collectible

23:20

aspects of it. But I do

23:22

agree that the fact that we

23:24

have like not everybody's gonna have

23:26

that policy. I would feel like

23:28

most people would just throw them

23:30

away once they're done with them.

23:32

And the perfect time is now

23:34

because the iterative upgrades on phones

23:36

is so boring. Yeah. Like what

23:38

is the new thing with the

23:40

new Apple device? Well, you've got

23:42

a software update and some AI

23:44

integration. That's all software. and then

23:46

you've got a better camera so

23:48

you have a camera module you

23:50

pull out you put the new

23:52

one in for the next year

23:54

and now you only got this

23:56

little piece of waste versus this

23:58

giant piece of waste anyways my

24:00

point is the reason back in

24:02

the day tell you that much

24:04

expensive stuff though while heavier At

24:06

least you could repair them, you

24:08

could upgrade them, you can swap

24:10

things out. Now the company that's

24:12

doing that right now is Frameworks

24:15

and they've been successful in doing

24:17

it with laptops. I hope Frameworks

24:19

comes out with a phone next

24:21

year. Yeah, that would be awesome.

24:23

Would that be, like, it would

24:25

be incredible. I would love it.

24:27

If you need help with a

24:29

framer phone from Apple. And you

24:31

have a four to five millimeter

24:33

phone for this modularity aspects. Is

24:35

that okay? That's the question. Well,

24:37

my noodle arms would be hard

24:39

to hold up the extra weight.

24:41

That's true. But I would make

24:43

the sacrifice, Michael. And yes, I

24:45

don't care. First of all, the

24:47

first thing you do when you

24:49

get these super thin phones is

24:51

you put a case on it.

24:53

And so now it's no longer.

24:55

Yeah. Yeah, it's no longer the

24:57

2.5 millimeters. Now it's like 3.5

24:59

millimeters or 3 millimeters. And then

25:01

in my case, I've got this

25:03

giant, this pixel with this giant

25:05

extruding camera bump on it, which

25:07

makes it actually like if you

25:09

measure that, that's probably 3 millimeters

25:11

by itself. And then I put

25:13

a wallet on the back of

25:15

it. magnetic wallet that snaps on

25:17

the back. So now I've got

25:19

a giant phone anyways. I've saved

25:21

nothing, you know, by the time

25:23

you're done. So it's also because

25:25

they're so fragile, you have to

25:27

buy a case. Like the ones,

25:29

the thinner and thinner they get.

25:31

Yeah, exactly that too. For those

25:33

things like, you know, even the

25:35

most careful people will still drop

25:37

their phone occasionally. And all you

25:39

have to do is put a

25:41

case on it and you're much

25:43

better off and you're less likely

25:46

for it to break. If you

25:48

don't put a case on it,

25:50

it is probably going to break.

25:52

It also is sad because it

25:54

loses, like when you have a

25:56

phone that doesn't have a case

25:58

on it, it feels like magic.

26:00

Yeah, it feels like you're holding

26:02

something that is super cool, so

26:04

nice, and then you put a

26:06

case on it and all of

26:08

that goes away. But you have

26:10

to put a case on it.

26:12

I do know crazy people out

26:14

there that will not put a

26:16

case on their phone and they

26:18

just lived life on the edge.

26:20

But they also probably live with

26:22

breaks too, right? Yeah, well, I

26:24

mean, they get insurance and they're

26:26

like, whatever, you know, they just,

26:28

they have that carefree attitude. There

26:30

are choosers. I wish I could

26:32

have that. I wish I could

26:34

have that. Maybe we should try

26:36

that next time we get a

26:38

phone. Yeah, that sounds, that sounds,

26:40

more peaceful. More peaceful. Yeah, it

26:42

sounds like the way to live.

26:44

All right, moving on to the

26:46

next setup, we have Night Blade

26:48

X that sent their battle station

26:50

in, look like full gaming. You

26:52

didn't pronounce, you pronounced the other

26:54

one pretty good. This one you

26:56

did not pronounce correctly. Night Blade

26:58

X. Yes. And Night Blade X

27:00

actually has a full gaming mode

27:02

looking setup, which is great. They

27:04

got the Toshiba TV working as

27:06

their monitor plus an HP monitor

27:08

off to the side. So they

27:10

also appear to have two mini

27:12

computers. I saw a deck I

27:14

think I spotted in there as

27:17

well as a stereo system. Instead

27:19

of having, you know, if you

27:21

have a couple like Logitech basic

27:23

speakers like I do, I feel

27:25

like under, I feel like I

27:27

am just. week in the battle

27:29

stations aspects because this this person

27:31

has night blade has a stereo

27:33

like in the middle between the

27:35

like the the mile monitors and

27:37

the TV and all that stuff

27:39

and it's like a full blown

27:41

stereo with the subwoofers and everything

27:43

and I feel like I've just

27:45

I'm just lacking and I need

27:47

to pump up my Here's the

27:49

thing, like every time I go

27:51

and I buy, like I bought

27:53

some nice speaker systems over the

27:55

years for my computers, I either

27:57

run out of desk space because

27:59

I have too much other projects,

28:01

we'll call them, that are unfinished

28:03

on my desk, or I end

28:05

up doing headphones because kids are

28:07

sleeping or something else, so like

28:09

I can't be blasting the speakers.

28:11

Anyway, that's exactly the reason I

28:13

do that too. Yes, there you

28:15

go. Thank you for telling me

28:17

my reason. Also as a gaming

28:19

controller, mouse, nice keyboard, wires everywhere,

28:21

which I love. That's someone who

28:23

focuses on just getting crap plugged

28:25

in and working and not about

28:27

hiding wires and stuff. I had

28:29

this thing when I bought the

28:31

sit stand desk, where I was

28:33

like, I'm gonna get every wire.

28:35

perfectly arranged and tucked up under,

28:37

it even has all these cable

28:39

management systems and things. And then

28:41

I've had to move it around

28:43

and change out components and things

28:45

so much that now it just

28:48

looks like a chaos of wires.

28:50

Because when you want to undo

28:52

the wires, because you've got to

28:54

move a monitor or you've got

28:56

to put a new monitor in

28:58

or you're moving machine or you're

29:00

moving the desk, then you have

29:02

to take 35 minutes to undo

29:04

all of the great wire. uh...

29:06

set you know set up that

29:08

you did and it's just too

29:10

much trouble so i like the

29:12

night blade x is focused on

29:14

just the productivity like let's get

29:16

this crap working get a plugged

29:18

in and let's get let's go

29:20

like we don't got time for

29:22

nonsense like cable management but i

29:24

do like the fact they have

29:26

a rg b light up mouse

29:28

pad that you can barely be

29:30

because of all the wires and

29:32

everything Well, I told Night Blade

29:34

X. I can't do that as

29:36

well as you, Michael. I told

29:38

him nice speaker setup too, and

29:40

I think it's a really great

29:42

multimedia setup. And also, actually, there

29:44

is another picture of a beautiful

29:46

custom wallpaper he made that's further

29:48

down in the chat there on

29:50

our battle stations room. He said,

29:52

this is my desktop with the

29:54

custom wallpaper I put together. It's

29:56

a collage of Christian death metal

29:58

band album art set on an

30:00

image I found from the internet.

30:02

All images were taken. I'm really

30:04

a thing, hold on, all interesting,

30:06

I didn't mean to interrupt Jill,

30:08

but Christian death metal, is that

30:10

a thing? Oh yeah, absolutely. How

30:12

do you have like worship music

30:14

and death metal? It's because it's

30:16

all about the style and the

30:19

way you make the music. So

30:21

they're singing praise, but in like

30:23

a... Oh yeah. Yeah, 100%. Okay,

30:25

like I know of bands like

30:27

that, like there's a band called

30:29

Embodiment, which is basically that. Uh-huh,

30:31

yeah. That's fascinating. I've got to

30:33

look this up. There used to

30:35

be a band that was that

30:37

and now and converted out of

30:39

being Christian death metal. There's still

30:41

death metal, but they're not that

30:43

anymore. Like I knew Christian rock

30:45

bands, like collective soul and stuff

30:47

like that over the years. Yeah.

30:49

Which is neat, I will go

30:51

listen to some Christian death metal,

30:53

because why not? You know? Why

30:55

not? If you like that metal.

30:57

The thing is, is that it's

30:59

funny because the contrast is hilarious

31:01

in a way that if you

31:03

are like a teenager and your

31:05

parents don't want you to listen

31:07

to metal, and then you listen

31:09

to that, and then they're like,

31:11

it's like a good comfort. In

31:13

a way, it's like rebelling without

31:15

rebelling. There's this there's this Christmas

31:17

song done by is it DMX

31:19

Rudolph the red nose reindeer by

31:21

DMX? I don't think it's actually

31:23

by DMX but I think it's

31:25

like no he sings it he

31:27

actually sings it because it started

31:29

parody He did it in a

31:31

video that was like a live

31:33

chat where they said could you

31:35

make Rudolph the red nose reindeer

31:37

cool and he did it and

31:39

then they it was so popular

31:41

that he actually made a song

31:43

and it's awesome and it's really

31:45

good like my kids love his

31:48

version of Rudolph. Yeah So, you

31:50

know, like, we could do a

31:52

whole Christmas song album of death

31:54

metal. Like, yeah, yeah. Jingle Bells.

31:56

Jingle Bells. That's the thing that

31:58

always think about with that deep

32:00

voice like how do there's you

32:02

know how like wasn't it Whitney

32:04

Houston said she wouldn't like even

32:06

talk for weeks when you know

32:08

to prep her voice and do

32:10

the team but these death metal

32:12

people they just sit there This

32:14

is actually fascinating there is a

32:16

method that you can sing that

32:18

It's not singing, it's growling, but

32:20

there's a method in which you

32:22

can do it that doesn't require

32:24

your throat to do it. And

32:26

it's like a diaphragm controlled thing.

32:28

And if you do that, you

32:30

can kind of do it in

32:32

a way that's like growly and

32:34

like gritty, but at the same

32:36

time clean vocals that doesn't hurt

32:38

your throat. And I've seen people

32:40

demonstrate it. and explain how to

32:42

do it. It makes no sense.

32:44

It is impossible. And I don't

32:46

believe that they're actually telling me

32:48

with something that is real. I

32:50

just feel like they're messing with

32:52

me because every time I try,

32:54

I don't even, how do you,

32:56

how do you even sing from

32:58

your diaphragm? Like, how does that

33:00

even work? You don't know your

33:02

diaphragm has a little mouth, there's

33:04

a little tiny mouth on it.

33:06

And you just have to. You're

33:08

singing from your. your throat and

33:10

your mouth like how do you

33:12

what does it mean control it

33:14

but i've never even like i

33:16

i i can do like that

33:19

the growl stuff but it also

33:21

it's for my throat and it

33:23

hurts almost immediately all right well

33:25

here here's the deal awesome set

33:27

up good battle station there the

33:29

only suggestion i would have is

33:31

i see you're playing a game

33:33

on the toshiba and you also

33:35

have another monitor the problem with

33:37

playing stuff on TV's and you

33:39

may have a different I don't

33:41

know what kind of toshiva this

33:43

is I guess it technically could

33:45

be a monitor what looks like

33:47

a TV is just pixels and

33:49

resolution generally and the response times

33:51

are a lot more are generally

33:53

emulated in television. They're not actual

33:55

true response times and things. So,

33:57

you know, you may find if

33:59

you eventually move to your monitor

34:01

that you actually have a better

34:03

performance there or get a monitor,

34:05

even a use monitor, to have

34:07

a little bit better gaming experience

34:09

and clarity there with the pictures,

34:11

but overall, absolutely love the battle

34:13

station, no nonsense. I'm gonna do

34:15

the next person where this is

34:17

the last one we're gonna talk

34:19

about. I'm gonna do their name

34:21

in a death metal voice. Are

34:23

we ready? Ah, okay. We got

34:25

a picture from Or Thunder and

34:27

they have a battle station that's

34:29

filled out. Thank you. That was

34:31

good. Somebody's base in their car

34:33

just vibrated. Or if their kids

34:35

are listening, they just got freaked

34:37

out because they're like, what is

34:39

that? This setup is fit for

34:41

a movie set that's dealing with

34:43

hackers in some way. Like I

34:45

love this whole setup. They have

34:47

two large monitors posted side by

34:50

side. You got the matrix terminal.

34:52

You know someone's a hacker immediately

34:54

when they have the matrix terminal.

34:56

That is proof in and of

34:58

itself. I love the matrix terminal.

35:00

It's my absolute favorite. What's the

35:02

official C matrix? Right. It's C

35:04

matrix. Yeah. C matrix. In the

35:06

upper corner of one screen. Linux

35:08

Mint as an OS on the

35:10

other. Some small but mighty Logitech

35:12

speakers. Michael, are those the same

35:14

ones you have by chance? Because

35:16

that is 100% not the same.

35:18

Those look nicer than the terrible

35:20

ones. They're nicer than the ones

35:22

you have. I saw a pair

35:24

of headphones as well as the

35:26

speakers, so they deal with the

35:28

same problem. Probably I do. You

35:30

gotta be quiet sometimes. And a

35:32

desk mouse pad. System resource monitor

35:34

up on the screen, which I

35:36

think proves how I'm good of

35:38

a listener they are to the

35:40

show, because recently. There's been a

35:42

couple cases where major hacks have

35:44

been caught because of seeing system

35:46

resources shift. So always having system

35:48

resources. and available, you know, you

35:50

catch some sick hacks out there.

35:52

Jill, did you notice the Star

35:54

Trek wallpaper? Oh yeah, absolutely. That

35:56

was the instant thing. I was

35:58

like, is that Star Trek? Of

36:00

course it's Star Trek, thank you.

36:02

This is the rig I would

36:04

come home to, like this could

36:06

totally be in my house and

36:08

it would be the same type

36:10

of setup, looking setup that I

36:12

have. I mean, they didn't do

36:14

the wire management either if you

36:16

look in the background, they're all

36:18

business. Nope, you know, all business,

36:21

they don't have time for this.

36:23

I will give you a slight

36:25

difference. Okay, this is not a

36:27

dig to them because you do

36:29

whatever you want, whatever it works

36:31

best for you. I do feel

36:33

like I can't stand wires on

36:35

my desk. Like on the desk.

36:37

Yeah, all mine are knocked off

36:39

the desk. They're just hanging in

36:41

the back. Like, okay, I don't

36:43

like wires visible if I don't

36:45

have to, but sometimes you have

36:47

to. And if you do, hang

36:49

in, like, especially if you have

36:51

a sit-down desk, it is a

36:53

nightmare to cable manage. And in

36:55

that situation, it's like, okay, fine.

36:57

But if they're like in the,

36:59

just laying on the desk, it

37:01

just drives me nuts, because I

37:03

don't like clutter, like a nice

37:05

clean desk, but that's also just

37:07

my preference. If you don't care

37:09

about that, then sure, whatever, do

37:11

you? But I do like the

37:13

fact that they also have a

37:15

camera cover on their webcam. That

37:17

is nice. That is nice. Good.

37:19

Oh, catch on that one. Yeah.

37:21

And I'm like you, Michael. I

37:23

am OCD about my cable management.

37:25

So I try and make it.

37:27

If you see behind me, I

37:29

have about 10 computers hooked up,

37:31

but you don't see cables back

37:33

there. Well, just because you have

37:35

plushies covering the wires. That does

37:37

not sound true. Just because you

37:39

covered the wires with plushies. Doesn't

37:41

mean they're not there. I mean,

37:43

I can't even see the computers,

37:45

honestly, because the plushies. See, that

37:47

white computer is actually a portal-inspired

37:49

computer. The case is a portal-inspired

37:52

computer. Is there any point where

37:54

you've taken a picture of like

37:56

a big grouping of your computers?

37:58

Like when they're all being... moved

38:00

something My boss boss

38:02

said. if would be

38:04

incredible if Jill has that many computers,

38:06

but until I have a picture. don't believe

38:08

believe it saying that saying that jokingly because

38:10

they want a picture of your computer so

38:12

that was their was their way of trying

38:14

to get a picture. He was saying

38:16

Pixar didn't happen Pixar didn't happen. get to get the pick

38:18

so Jill. Do you have like I know you

38:21

don't have all have all there's no room

38:23

big Yeah, yeah, there's no room. Do

38:25

you no have room. Yeah, yeah, 10 or 15

38:27

of them together? something with like 10 or fact

38:29

when I started here on the show

38:31

on Destination in fact, had my web here

38:34

on the show on Destination Linux,

38:36

I had my web, my old

38:38

me was about

38:40

about 100 computers. So

38:42

when I started the show, you could see them.

38:44

could see them. Oh, really? I know that,

38:46

did you that. Did you remember

38:48

that? I not know that at

38:50

all, at all. go in the

38:52

and find us that picture,

38:55

please us that picture, please. Yeah. Destination Find

38:57

us the picture of Jill with the

38:59

computers behind us. the I also have

39:01

videos of that time. I

39:03

did a studio a before I

39:05

was on before I did videos and

39:07

I have pictures pictures could get

39:09

one of those to Wendy, get

39:11

one be showing it right now

39:13

in the we'd be showing it right now

39:16

version over there. there. And if it

39:18

didn't get shown right now,

39:20

it's shown fault, not Jill's fault. fault

39:23

not Jill's fault. Oh no. who's getting

39:25

the donkey face now? face

39:27

now? Look at me. I probably will. irony

39:29

of it it. is I'm a

39:31

a little embarrassed because I'm, you know,

39:33

OCD everything was not, why

39:35

why the room changed because

39:37

everything wasn't the way

39:39

I wanted I wanted it. Nothing to be

39:42

be embarrassed about you about you for me Yeah.

39:44

hundred. Same thing I'm I'm in

39:46

my I'm computers at this point

39:48

now. four computers at this collection the collection in,

39:51

most of my collection is

39:53

stored in the garage.

39:55

I have over I the

39:57

garage. half the garage of bread

39:59

racks. full of computers from floor

40:01

to ceiling, and I have 12

40:03

bread racks of thousands of pounds

40:05

of computers on them. And in

40:08

order to get one out, like

40:10

for Treasure Hunt, I literally have

40:12

to pull all the other racks

40:14

out of the garage. to get

40:16

to one of the computers because

40:18

I don't have a lot of

40:20

space. Yeah, and to get the

40:22

ET game, she had to get

40:24

an excavator and dig in her

40:26

backyard until she came across the

40:29

pile of excavator. Yeah, actually my

40:31

ET game was in the back.

40:33

She buried everything in just like

40:35

Atari. But yeah, oh, here's a

40:37

vintage computer right there. There's a

40:39

couple now that yeah that I

40:41

look I always just see plushies

40:43

now I look I see there

40:45

are computers hidden in the background

40:47

all across yeah people could do

40:50

their own treasure hunt with a

40:52

snapshot of Jill's picture right there's

40:54

looking in the background for the

40:56

episode your own treasure it's like

40:58

fine Waldo also behind my my

41:00

big three monitors here I have

41:02

about 50 computers back there Yeah.

41:04

That's crazy. Joe, what did you

41:06

think of War Thunders set up?

41:09

So his is cool. He posted

41:11

six pictures, including a really cool

41:13

racing sim setup for arcade racers

41:15

that I was really impressed with.

41:17

That's awesome. And he also had

41:19

a picture of his awesome HP

41:21

Elite Desk, 705G4 Mini PC with

41:23

AMD Horizon 5 Pro, 2400G. Those

41:25

are so great. That I showed

41:27

off. Yeah. I actually I showed

41:30

off two of mine on Destination

41:32

Linux episode number 399 as a

41:34

pick for our holiday gift guide

41:36

segment because they're $100 and under.

41:38

Yeah, fantastic man. I always like

41:40

the fact that every every screenshot

41:42

or every photo that War Thunder

41:44

gave us for that has a

41:46

monitor in it. It would also

41:48

put in the NeoFetch type of

41:51

thing with the Linux Mint display.

41:53

So we know that that computer

41:55

running it is in fact a

41:57

Linux machine. It also looks like

41:59

they have quite a nice audio

42:01

CD collection going on. So actual

42:03

physical media for the kids out

42:05

there, these were little disks that

42:07

you would actually buy and carry

42:09

around with your music and you

42:12

owned it. What's a disk Ryan?

42:14

You didn't have to pay monthly

42:16

fee on it. How do I

42:18

explain a disk? Okay, it was

42:20

a circular object about 0.3 millimeters

42:22

thick. So that's what the Apple

42:24

iPhone is trying to be. I

42:26

have no idea if that 0.33

42:28

is correct. How thick is destination

42:30

Linux AI? How thick is ACD?

42:33

We'll find out soon. But this

42:35

is actually pretty cool. I mean,

42:37

the racing sim stuff is really

42:39

cool. It's definitely, I've always wondered,

42:41

like, what's the ideal setup for

42:43

a racing sim? And I, because

42:45

I've seen like people put it

42:47

on their desk and you can

42:49

mount it to the desk, but

42:52

having something dedicated for that seems

42:54

more like you're definitely into racing

42:56

sims at that point, right? But

42:58

there is a lot of, like

43:00

as Ryan was mentioning, there's a

43:02

lot of CDs in the background.

43:04

This is something for me. I

43:06

feel like that's it's I could

43:08

not have enough room to put

43:10

all this stuff in. You know,

43:13

like I have I have a

43:15

room dedicated to the setup, but

43:17

it's not that much of a

43:19

setup because he shared a bunch

43:21

of different photos and all sorts

43:23

of stuff. And it's impressive. I

43:25

still think that there's a little

43:27

bit of improvements with this, the

43:29

clutter on the desk. That's, that's

43:31

all. We said they didn't have

43:34

to remove the clutter, Michael. That's

43:36

not what I said. I said,

43:38

if you like, if you like,

43:40

if you like, if you like,

43:42

if you like, if you like,

43:44

if you like, if you like,

43:46

then enjoy. But also, you probably

43:48

should remove it. Wow. Wow. It

43:50

would just look so much nicer

43:52

without the clutter. It's all I'm

43:55

saying. C.D. is 1.2 millimeters thick.

43:57

So I was really close. there.

43:59

Like nearly dead on. And it's

44:01

made of polycarbonate plastic. How are

44:03

you nearly dead on by four

44:05

times smaller? So, next up. Thank

44:07

you, by the way, for sending

44:09

in your battle station photos. We

44:11

really appreciate. There's tons more on

44:13

there. So go check out that

44:16

thread. And we're gonna cover some

44:18

more in later episodes. But right

44:20

now, let's talk about some other

44:22

machines and hardware out there. System

44:24

76 upgraded their Pangolin. And they

44:26

finally have some things that I

44:28

think are announced that wrong, Ryan.

44:30

What? Pangolin. No, try again. Pangolin.

44:32

Pangolin. Die again. Pangalan. Pangalan. Pangalanine.

44:34

So now you're just, you're, you're,

44:37

you're, I see what you're, you're,

44:39

you're, you're, get my, you didn't

44:41

get my, uh, hinting at what

44:43

you should do because it was

44:45

a little bit excessive. I didn't

44:47

give you much guidance, but it.

44:49

Oh, that I got you the

44:51

deep one. There you go. So

44:53

it looks like the folks that

44:56

we love over there at System

44:58

76 have gotten some of the

45:00

feedback about, you know, taking some

45:02

of the feedback to heart about

45:04

one of the things that really

45:06

has frustrated us about some of

45:08

their lineup, which is the resolution

45:10

on their laptops being. 1920. Not

45:12

to be mean about it, but

45:14

there's only one word you can

45:17

say for this. Finally. Nice. So

45:19

the Pangolin, this is why I

45:21

wanted to cover this to give

45:23

some praise here because there's a

45:25

lot of cool things on this.

45:27

Number one, 16 by 10 aspect

45:29

radio with a 16 inch screen.

45:31

If you haven't tried a 16

45:33

inch system lately. There were some

45:35

like 17s and 16 and a

45:38

halfs in the past that it's

45:40

just too big or too bulky

45:42

or it just didn't feel right.

45:44

These new 16 inches are higher

45:46

man. I love the 16 inches.

45:48

I think it's. because the 17

45:50

inch laptops, like yeah, it's because

45:52

of the bezel, like the old

45:54

tiny and 17 inch just felt

45:56

like massive things. And now with

45:59

the slightly smaller screen, but this

46:01

bezel, there's so much smaller, it

46:03

feels like a great combination of

46:05

like, you have not too big,

46:07

but big enough that it's still

46:09

useful, you know? And it looks

46:11

like they put a really nice

46:13

panel in here. You're talking 600P,

46:15

2K resolution. So thank you for

46:17

finally getting to the 2K, at

46:20

least resolution with that, with 100%

46:22

SRGB color coverage and radion graphics

46:24

and 120 hertz refresh race. This

46:26

is a really nice panel that

46:28

they're putting in here, which I'm

46:30

very, very happy about. It has

46:32

a lot of great things. You

46:34

got the AMD rise in 8945,

46:36

so they went with more high

46:39

performance processor here. The tradeoff on

46:41

that is you're not going to

46:43

get as much battery life with

46:45

the HS lineup, so you're only

46:47

getting about up to six hours

46:49

of battery life. It's not the

46:51

greatest when it comes to battery

46:53

life. We were talking about this,

46:55

like Mac ruined this for me.

46:57

It used to be that I

47:00

didn't really care, like I would

47:02

buy a laptop and I never

47:04

even looked at the battery life.

47:06

I could care less. I was

47:08

like, you know, I know I'm

47:10

going to have to keep it

47:12

on a chargerer most of the

47:14

time. If I can get a

47:16

couple hours out of it great.

47:18

with the work that I do

47:21

on them anyway. So battery for

47:23

the old times of like the

47:25

pre-M chips was you'd have a

47:27

battery on it so you could

47:29

keep the machine on as you

47:31

move it from place to place

47:33

and then it's like to get

47:35

to another court. Exactly. That was

47:37

it. But now after using a

47:39

Mac book and being able to

47:42

leave it for several days and

47:44

come back with 70% of your

47:46

battery still there or. use it

47:48

for days and it still has

47:50

most of its battery there or

47:52

go on an entire trip and

47:54

not plug it in and it's

47:56

fine the battery life is fine

47:58

I'm still utilizing it hours and

48:00

hours and hours later. Wait a

48:03

minute. Okay. What are you talking

48:05

about? Because I've never had that.

48:07

Doesn't seem that good to me.

48:09

I did get a MacBook for

48:11

testing purposes and to try out

48:13

stuff because everybody was talking about

48:15

how good it was and everything.

48:17

There's some good. There's some good

48:19

stuff to it, but like, it's

48:22

like 18 hours. But yours, the

48:24

way you're describing it is like...

48:26

But no, no, what I'm saying

48:28

is exactly true. If you take

48:30

that 18 hours, because their standby

48:32

mode actually works, and you're working

48:34

with that thing an hour at

48:36

a time, for a couple hours

48:38

a day, even doing editing and

48:40

other stuff, you're going to get

48:43

several days out of that battery

48:45

life. Whereas Windows standby, and even

48:47

Linux standby, is horrific. It is

48:49

really bad. Half the time you

48:51

shut down your laptop. You put

48:53

it in your bag and you

48:55

get home and your laptops practically

48:57

on fire. Yeah, because it was

48:59

somehow running the whole time with

49:01

the lid closed, whereas that has

49:04

literally never happened to me on

49:06

the Mac. It has never sat

49:08

there and continued to run. And

49:10

when you shut that lid, it

49:12

is in full conservation mode with

49:14

the battery. Like it works seamlessly.

49:16

And that's the problem. One of

49:18

the other problems is the six

49:20

hours is up to six hours.

49:22

You're probably getting more like four.

49:25

Depending on what you're doing. I

49:27

typically use my machines at like

49:29

30% full, like brightness of the

49:31

screen, because I don't want to

49:33

have the super bright screen anyway.

49:35

I don't, but I know how

49:37

they get to a level of

49:39

brightness that is, like, you're sitting

49:41

in front of the sun. That's

49:43

how bright these things get, it

49:46

feels like. Yeah, that's what it

49:48

feels like. So I always put

49:50

it down like super low. Exactly,

49:52

like why did that to be

49:54

that bright? But. I put it

49:56

at 30% so it still gives

49:58

me a lot of battery life,

50:00

but I would I would hope

50:02

for at this point at least

50:04

eight hours of good battery. Yeah,

50:07

yeah, so I I'm saying like,

50:09

preferably more than eight, but I'm

50:11

saying like minimum eight hours so

50:13

that I could, you know, go

50:15

to a coffee shop and still

50:17

work and not have to charge

50:19

it halfway through the day. Here's

50:21

what I'm here's what I'm gonna

50:23

say. If System 76 with their

50:26

new OS can actually figure out

50:28

how to do proper conservation standby

50:30

mode like MAC has, then that

50:32

six hours becomes perfectly fine. Oh

50:34

yeah, true. If I can actually

50:36

after working a couple hours shut

50:38

that thing off, wake up the

50:40

next morning, turn on the screen

50:42

and I still have near the

50:44

same percentage left as when I

50:47

shut it down, then that six

50:49

hour stretches. Because that's what I'm

50:51

talking about with the Mac is

50:53

you can stretch it out because

50:55

it has that great conservation plus

50:57

very efficient cores. So this is

50:59

an opportunity I think for System

51:01

76 to do something amazing with

51:03

their operating system to really... effectively

51:05

create a great standby and power

51:08

conservation mode. You know, part of

51:10

that, of course, is this particular

51:12

rising chip is not big little

51:14

architecture. So that may be really

51:16

difficult to do. But if you

51:18

can somehow shut it off a

51:20

little bit more than what typically

51:22

does, I think you could do

51:24

some really cool things with this.

51:26

This is really nice laptop. It's

51:29

really thin, by the way. This

51:31

is not like a desktop replacement

51:33

laptop. You've got your USBC charging,

51:35

you could do graphic creation, some

51:37

light gaming on this, really nice

51:39

system. And my favorite thing they

51:41

added to this on top of

51:43

the resolution is the privacy switch

51:45

physically cuts power to the camera

51:47

on there. I love that they

51:50

built that in. That is so

51:52

freaking nice to have that privacy

51:54

switch on there. So really appreciate

51:56

that they did that. That's freaking

51:58

awesome. Because it's nice to have

52:00

the webcam cover. A lot of

52:02

laptops have that built in. But

52:04

that doesn't stop the audio from

52:06

your webcam and stuff like that.

52:09

So haven't a physical power kill

52:11

switch is really nice. And sometimes

52:13

those little sliders open up on

52:15

their own. Have you ever noticed

52:17

that? Like when you're opening and

52:19

closing the little slider all of

52:21

a sudden will be open. Either

52:23

that or there's like a CI

52:25

agent that comes in my house

52:27

at night and slides it open.

52:30

I feel like it's probably that

52:32

one. Yeah, probably. You probably realize

52:34

the worst possible evidence that they

52:36

were there. They're like, we got

52:38

them, we got it open. So

52:40

we actually gave away some webcam

52:42

covers at the last time we

52:44

were at scale. And right here,

52:46

yeah, exactly. And this is funny

52:48

because that particular webcam cover, when

52:51

I first got it, I thought

52:53

that it annoyed me because the

52:55

way it opens, instead of sliding,

52:57

it opens up and like kind

52:59

of like has a rotation up.

53:01

And that, because of the fact

53:03

that the slides kind of like

53:05

sort of like loosen and open.

53:07

That turns out that's actually better

53:09

because you have to manually open

53:12

it up because of gravity is

53:14

going to fight it down. So

53:16

even if even if the mechanism

53:18

for the thing that you have

53:20

to open and close it, even

53:22

if that gets like loosened and

53:24

whatever, it still won't accidentally fall.

53:26

So yeah. CIA's got a much

53:28

harder time now that I switched

53:30

to these of opening them up.

53:33

Gotcha. The pricing for the pangolin,

53:35

the 16 inch, yeah, it starts

53:37

at $1,299. And that's that's really

53:39

comparable to a lot of other

53:41

thin and light laptops that are

53:43

from a Linux-based manufacturer with really

53:45

good customer support. Yeah, and they

53:47

have a holiday sale right now,

53:49

which is I think $50 to

53:51

$100 off. I don't know if

53:54

this one qualifies. But if you're

53:56

looking for some System 76 keyboards,

53:58

or they're my favorite thing, they

54:00

produce as the Thielio, because it's

54:02

custom-made in-house, you can get some

54:04

really nice disc. counts on those

54:06

going on right now. If you

54:08

want to send me a great

54:10

Christmas gift, I'll take Athena any

54:13

day of the week. And if

54:15

you want to send me a

54:17

great Christmas gift, I'll take a

54:19

Pangolin. Pangolin. Yeah, I do. Good

54:21

job System 76. Really excited to

54:23

see your lineup that you have

54:25

coming this year. Looks like a

54:27

lot of stuff is. And you

54:29

said System 76 wrong. Come on,

54:31

man. Stop for now for now.

54:34

Alright, so here's some more good.

54:36

This is like a hardware addicts

54:38

episode. We need Wendy. Wendy should

54:40

have jumped in in this episode

54:42

man. Tell you what. Um, invidia

54:44

did a launch of the Jetson

54:46

Orin nano super developer kit. This

54:48

is a compact and affordable. I

54:50

know, invidious and affordable. Who would

54:52

have thought? I don't believe you.

54:55

What do you mean by affordable?

54:57

Well. The original Jetson, which I

54:59

have, and got certified through invidia

55:01

utilizing their AI, which you can

55:03

do, which is so cool. They

55:05

have certification courses, some are paid

55:07

for, a lot of it's all

55:09

free. They do a lot of

55:11

student stuff, this like kind of

55:13

raspberry pie foundation, not as much,

55:16

but they do stuff like that,

55:18

I'm saying, where you can do

55:20

a lot of free training and

55:22

things with their equipment. That thing

55:24

was like $499, as I recall,

55:26

somewhere around there, and they've lowered

55:28

the price of this even though

55:30

it's way more power to just

55:32

$249 bucks. Okay, that's pretty good.

55:34

That's a huge drop. Nobody's dropping

55:37

prices of things these days. Like,

55:39

I would have expected it to

55:41

be $699, because that's where everything

55:43

goes now. I mean, like, a

55:45

value meal at McDonald's is practically

55:47

$299. Slide exaggeration, but pretty dark.

55:49

Light exaggerates. Yeah, it's not a

55:51

value mill at all. You get

55:53

a huge performance boost out of

55:56

this. 1.7 times gain in generative

55:58

AI performance. percent increase in the

56:00

end. What makes it a super

56:02

computer though? Well, that's the tensor

56:04

processors. What they're really talking about

56:06

is its capability of the int

56:08

eight tops that it's doing there.

56:10

So it's the amount of calculations

56:12

per second, using eight integers of

56:14

places. So that is what kind

56:17

of makes it a. You're saying

56:19

it tops the chart. It tops

56:21

the chart. It has an incredible

56:23

performance capability through. Oh, the other

56:25

thing is the nano developer kit.

56:27

They actually, the new software they

56:29

released for this for its new

56:31

generative AI and performance upgrades and

56:33

stuff, they made it available to

56:35

their prior kit as well. So

56:38

if you have that other kit,

56:40

you can use all of these

56:42

upgraded software stuff right on your

56:44

current kit, which was super nice

56:46

that they did that. They're targeting

56:48

hobbyist developer students. This is what

56:50

I love. They are creating the

56:52

next generation, inspiring the next generation

56:54

of engineers by allowing a very

56:56

inexpensive, in the scheme of things,

56:59

super computer, pocket super computer, in

57:01

the hands of everyone, right? Because

57:03

299 is very affordable for students,

57:05

developers, hobbyists, and things to play

57:07

with. So, you know, very cool

57:09

stuff. AI model support, obviously, you

57:11

can do LLMs. on there. It

57:13

could do visual language models. It

57:15

has the ability to connect cameras

57:17

up to four cameras it can

57:20

support. It can do some robotics

57:22

as well with this little thing.

57:24

How useful would this be for

57:26

someone to just buy it as

57:28

like a thing that they could

57:30

use like a set-top box or

57:32

something they could just build from

57:34

something on top of it? It

57:36

runs, they have a version of

57:38

a bun-to they utilize for these

57:41

devices. So it runs Linux out

57:43

of the box, which is very

57:45

cool. and it would be as

57:47

probably as effective as like a

57:49

raspberry pie five. I would say

57:51

as far as performance goes. If

57:53

it's anything like the one that

57:55

I have, you know, it's not

57:57

like a computer that you would.

58:00

do any any gaming or anything on like

58:02

main reason I'm asking is because of

58:04

the whole because of the thing, you know?

58:06

you know? The super computer in in ability

58:08

to do the calculations that it's

58:10

doing it's your for your LM modeling. So So

58:12

you're saying this is probably good

58:14

for like good for like stuff. miners and

58:16

could be. could be. Actually, probably the tensor chips

58:19

could be. I don't know,

58:21

know crypto mining per se, but definitely

58:23

the calculations. If

58:25

you you could probably restructure it to do

58:27

the calculations towards the crypto mining, maybe. But

58:29

would it be good for like a local? mining,

58:31

maybe. Would it be good for like a local,

58:33

what it's made for, chat AI, it's

58:36

local robotic AI with cameras. AI One

58:38

of the things I did with

58:40

the kit I did with the used a

58:42

camera and created a color detection

58:44

system a that it could tell. that

58:47

lights had changed color from green to

58:49

red and then it would move. green to

58:51

red and then it car a RC the

58:54

light was green and it it would

58:56

stop if it was red it would

58:58

use a camera and could look at

59:00

a street and basically be be able to

59:02

pick out the camera, the I'm sorry, the

59:04

light, stop light and then and

59:06

then it for it for when

59:08

it changed colors and then it would move

59:10

move on that. that. Look out Tesla Ryan's coming for

59:12

you. No that was actually that

59:14

that cool setup that I just talked right

59:17

there. That is part of their

59:19

class that you can take and get

59:21

certified in and they walk you

59:23

through through the whole thing. It's really cool.

59:25

That's a whole great education system. So

59:27

all I did was follow the steps

59:29

and I had that at the

59:31

end, but very at the Okay, the don't

59:33

watch but you're fine. Don't watch out Tesla, I

59:36

know Ryan, this is a

59:38

lot of the technology that

59:40

goes a lot of the technology that goes into their

59:42

GPUs for autonomous vehicle driving and

59:44

whatnot. They were really pioneering

59:46

in that area, and that

59:48

CPU is supposed to be

59:50

very similar to the ones

59:52

in their GPU. in their GPU. Now, Now,

59:55

tensor was made

59:57

by by Google originally, which is interesting.

59:59

So it is. there's a lot

1:00:01

like the new pixels and things

1:00:03

use the tensor of chips obviously

1:00:05

inside of them different than what

1:00:07

invidious utilizing here but you know

1:00:09

yeah architecture there anyway so I

1:00:11

love this for so many reasons

1:00:14

affordability community impact you know you

1:00:16

know what do you know what

1:00:18

do you know what CPU is

1:00:20

both binary compatible and also very

1:00:22

polite tensor you're welcome you know

1:00:24

you're welcome you know encourage him

1:00:26

everyone who just based on you're

1:00:28

welcome oh our picture me off

1:00:31

the mic just to say that

1:00:33

just to say that Michael like

1:00:35

you wow Joe I think it's

1:00:37

an evening before Michael comes up

1:00:39

with another dumb dad joke okay

1:00:41

so Our game this week is

1:00:43

Cletka, K-L-E-T-K-A. Ryan had to try

1:00:45

and get me with a horror

1:00:48

game one last time this year,

1:00:50

of course the last time I

1:00:52

review a game on Destination Letting

1:00:54

This Year. And Clekka actually describes

1:00:56

itself like this. Clekka is a

1:00:58

co-op up to six players. horror

1:01:00

game about going down in an

1:01:02

elevator that is trying to eat

1:01:05

you. Yes, it tries to eat

1:01:07

you. Feed the elevator, explore deadly

1:01:09

floors, and descend deeper. And if

1:01:11

you've laughed at the description, like

1:01:13

we have, just know this imaginative

1:01:15

adventure has 570 very positive reviews

1:01:17

already and it was just released.

1:01:19

Look, that's brilliant man. An elevator

1:01:21

that tries to eat you. How

1:01:24

many times have you gone into

1:01:26

an elevator? And he thought, what

1:01:28

if this thing tries to eat

1:01:30

me? Yeah. It's never happened, but

1:01:32

now some... Somebody had that and

1:01:34

they made a video game out

1:01:36

of it. Here's the thing. When

1:01:38

I was a kid, I don't

1:01:41

know how old I was. I

1:01:43

was maybe 12, 3 11, something

1:01:45

like that. I don't have any

1:01:47

idea what this is called or

1:01:49

what the name of it is.

1:01:51

Maybe someone in the comments knows.

1:01:53

There was a movie where an

1:01:55

office building. would try to kill

1:01:58

you and it was a terrible

1:02:00

horror like the movie nonsense garbage

1:02:02

thing. I need to know the

1:02:04

name of this movie and one

1:02:06

of the things that would use

1:02:08

is the elevator and I remember

1:02:10

when I was so like randomly

1:02:12

I forget about this thing existing

1:02:15

but back in the depth of

1:02:17

my brain but every once in

1:02:19

a while I'm in a building

1:02:21

that remind that's similar to that

1:02:23

movie and then I get in

1:02:25

the elevator and I think about

1:02:27

it for a second. Like that

1:02:29

is amazing that I came up

1:02:31

with something so random and stupid

1:02:34

and you're like no that really

1:02:36

happened to me according to AI

1:02:38

the movie is called the mangler

1:02:40

It could be it and so

1:02:42

a plot line is a business.

1:02:44

No I tries to eat people

1:02:46

and an industrial laundry press in

1:02:48

a business setting. Wow. He comes

1:02:51

possessed and starts to kill people

1:02:53

essentially turning into the building is

1:02:55

possessed assuming entity. That's so great.

1:02:57

I will be watching that movie

1:02:59

too. For those who are curious,

1:03:01

Ryan is genuinely excited because he

1:03:03

loves garbage movies. It's gotta be

1:03:05

terrible though. Legit terrible. It is

1:03:08

legit terrible, yes. You will enjoy

1:03:10

this awful movie. I love terrible

1:03:12

movies, yeah. I don't even know

1:03:14

how I found it and how

1:03:16

I watched it. I was like,

1:03:18

I was very young when I

1:03:20

watched it and I didn't watch

1:03:22

the whole thing because it was

1:03:25

just like, this is the weirdest

1:03:27

thing ever. But also now that

1:03:29

reminds me of like a, it

1:03:31

was, I don't know, it was

1:03:33

a Twilight Zone episode or something,

1:03:35

where it's very similar and there

1:03:37

was like a waterbed that eats

1:03:39

you. Yeah, yeah. That's classic. What

1:03:41

I thought about was the Twilight

1:03:44

Zone episode with the elevator. So

1:03:46

yeah, the elevator is alive in

1:03:48

this game just like it was

1:03:50

in that horrifying movie you watched.

1:03:52

Horrifying or incredibly stupid. I mean,

1:03:54

there's a balance. Think about it

1:03:56

to this day. That director got

1:03:58

in your head, man. No, actually

1:04:01

I forgot about it entirely until

1:04:03

there's literally a game with that

1:04:05

naked concept. So it's basically a

1:04:07

space 1999 but with the elevator

1:04:09

that eats you. Yeah. So I

1:04:11

actually played the demo of Clekah

1:04:13

over at itch.io and I was

1:04:15

very impressed with the game. It

1:04:18

has a great eerie atmosphere of

1:04:20

music and the horror theme is

1:04:22

really on point. I felt costrophobic

1:04:24

in the elevator and as alarms

1:04:26

were clinging, I figured out I

1:04:28

had to put gas from the

1:04:30

gas can I had collected in

1:04:32

an engine in the elevator to

1:04:35

fuel it up to a healthy

1:04:37

state to make the elevator. It's

1:04:39

a modern elevator. It's a very

1:04:41

moderate elevator. You feel like fuel.

1:04:43

I do that all the time

1:04:45

when I'm going on my fourth

1:04:47

floor, you know. I put some

1:04:49

fuel elevator. office building or something.

1:04:51

So that's why I didn't think

1:04:54

of the solution immediately because, well,

1:04:56

most elevators don't have an engine

1:04:58

in it. I don't know if

1:05:00

anyone ever putting an engine in

1:05:02

it. Because the fumes could kill

1:05:04

you, right? So. But so many

1:05:06

things to worry about than the

1:05:08

fumes when you have a hungry

1:05:11

owner. So many things. It could

1:05:13

catch fire and I could do

1:05:15

it. Click Cut is a really

1:05:17

fun first-person horror game that you

1:05:19

can play in single-player mode with

1:05:21

six of your best friends or

1:05:23

with random people on the internet.

1:05:25

And this is actually an early

1:05:28

access game but people are already

1:05:30

loving it. streaming it so it

1:05:32

might be a good one to

1:05:34

check out during the downtime of

1:05:36

the holidays. Cletka is 15% off

1:05:38

at $8.49 on steam. That's what

1:05:40

everybody would want to do is

1:05:42

spend their holidays playing an elevator

1:05:44

with gasoline. And also with random

1:05:47

people online because there's no way

1:05:49

they're going to troll you. Yeah.

1:05:51

Hey, Jill, I'm sorry that I

1:05:53

caused you anxiety. Clostrophobic, you said,

1:05:55

alarm, flinging, you're holding on the

1:05:57

gas cans in this, I caused

1:05:59

you panic in the last show

1:06:01

of the year, very deeply. Sorry

1:06:04

about that. Okay. But on the

1:06:06

bright side. I won't do it

1:06:08

again until next year. Yes. For

1:06:10

an entire year will go by,

1:06:12

or at least the number will

1:06:14

change. So it might be like

1:06:16

three weeks. Yeah. Right. We are

1:06:18

out of time. So guess what?

1:06:21

We're going to skip our software

1:06:23

spotlight. We're going to go right

1:06:25

into the typical week. Why? I

1:06:27

had a dad joke for that,

1:06:29

though. Come on. Sorry, Michael. That'll

1:06:31

have to wait for three more

1:06:33

weeks. Yeah. I'll forget three weeks.

1:06:35

Because it'll be there next week.

1:06:38

I'll tell you after the show.

1:06:40

So you can still enjoy it.

1:06:42

And everybody else can become patrons.

1:06:44

And that way they can enjoy

1:06:46

my dad. There we go. It's

1:06:48

not worth it. I mean, I

1:06:50

don't want to hurt myself here

1:06:52

by saying it's not worth it,

1:06:54

but his dad jokes are worth

1:06:57

it. You're 100% worth it. You

1:06:59

already got an experience just this

1:07:01

episode. So become a patient. And

1:07:03

you can get it too. You

1:07:05

can get more dad jokes. Jill,

1:07:07

what's our tip of the week?

1:07:09

Okay. So as we're chilling out

1:07:11

for the awesome holiday season, make

1:07:14

sure to check to take some

1:07:16

geeky Linux time for yourself this

1:07:18

holiday season, whether it. is building

1:07:20

a new rig, upgrading a computer,

1:07:22

hacking, developing, or having fun playing

1:07:24

some games. Or getting your rig

1:07:26

ready to enter in our battle

1:07:28

station segment. I literally have just

1:07:31

that to do for the holidays.

1:07:33

What you see here is a

1:07:35

raspberry pie. Kit, raspberry pie five

1:07:37

kit that I ordered. I think

1:07:39

to some nice gift cards that

1:07:41

I got and with this one

1:07:43

I'm gonna be resetting up a

1:07:45

piehole at least as one of

1:07:48

the projects I want to do

1:07:50

with this because I had to

1:07:52

repurpose another raspberry pie that was

1:07:54

the piehole so we're resetting that

1:07:56

up and yeah I got a

1:07:58

nice little raspberry pie five kit

1:08:00

so I'll be joining all of

1:08:02

you in that tip of the

1:08:04

week. And by hacking we refer

1:08:07

to as like making things not

1:08:09

necessarily. Michael, we've closed on the

1:08:11

show that Jill is a bona

1:08:13

fide hacker. That's true. Hack you

1:08:15

actually one time. Do you remember

1:08:17

that? Yeah, I did. Yeah, I

1:08:19

did. I found your files. You

1:08:21

did. We have evidence of her

1:08:24

hacking Ryan on the show. It

1:08:26

literally happened. She did it live

1:08:28

on the show. I remember you

1:08:30

were like, wow, you got some

1:08:32

of my folders quickly. She was

1:08:34

already browsing files. I just said,

1:08:36

can you get a connection to

1:08:38

my machine? Yeah. She went and

1:08:41

took it a step further and

1:08:43

was already investigating the files in

1:08:45

there. I was like, man, this

1:08:47

Jill is something else. She's unhackable,

1:08:49

but I'm not. For the holiday

1:08:51

season, me and Michael and Ryan

1:08:53

are, as we said at the

1:08:55

top of the show, are going

1:08:58

to take a short break from

1:09:00

doing Destination Linux, but we will

1:09:02

be back soon and we will

1:09:04

get to show you all the

1:09:06

cool things we have worked on.

1:09:08

I have a big project planned

1:09:10

myself. But I'm going to save

1:09:12

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right now. now as

1:12:02

a joke! for the new for the

1:12:04

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Mozilla. it, but it's a joke Some

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people might not like it, a

1:12:11

flag and in a joke because the new

1:12:13

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1:12:15

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1:12:17

turns out. a They did want it to make

1:12:19

it look like a flag. They said the symbol of

1:12:21

the flag means blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, who cares? blah

1:12:23

blah blah, it's a, it's a

1:12:25

weird. a weird reason, but they did

1:12:27

did do that on purpose.

1:12:30

However, it's still an odd logo.

1:12:32

And when I I made the joke

1:12:34

about how, why, why, you can get a

1:12:36

t-shirt can get a

1:12:38

t -shirt that says what, in- why,

1:12:40

for what. the holidays, to wear

1:12:42

that when your family members your family

1:12:44

members are talking to

1:12:46

you, you know, you're like

1:12:49

why, why, what, and love the font really

1:12:51

and it looks really nice. I like

1:12:53

the green green then the the green on

1:12:55

black. It's very nice. Michael. Let's not compliment him

1:12:57

Joe. And if you if And you want other

1:12:59

examples, you other options. If you want the

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