0:00

Okay. We're back into building baby. We're digging

0:02

weekly ish, but we're going to be

0:04

digging weekly pretty soon. Baseball is coming up.

0:06

We got the Super Bowl coming up.

0:08

Obviously we're going to lock in on that.

0:10

And then after that, it's all eyes on

0:12

baseball, heading towards spring training. Hopefully some late

0:14

free agent, some of the older gentlemen sign.

0:16

And then we'll see what these rosters are

0:18

looking at. Moosey. What's up,

0:20

buddy? You're looking good over there. Drinking

0:22

a green drink over there. Looking slim. Yeah.

0:24

Little green juice. A little green juice

0:26

today, kids. Sunlight savage. Chucky fresh

0:28

fade over there, baby. Hey, coming off a

0:30

bi -week, Chucky, when you come off bi -weeks, you

0:32

are ready to go. Call

0:35

me Bill Belichick for a reason. All

0:37

I know is it's getting nice outside,

0:39

baby. Winter has come and winter has

0:41

gone and spring is upon us. And

0:43

you know what? I cannot wait for

0:45

baseball to be back, baby. Mm. Mm.

0:47

Love that. can't wait. Chucky, washed up.

0:49

Listen, you run the streets, ran the

0:51

streets of Twitter, run the streets of

0:53

X. We all know that. So you

0:55

kind of know more what the topics

0:57

are. And my whole situation, I'm evaluating

0:59

our program. I'm like, how can I

1:01

talk less? How can I speak less?

1:03

So, Chucky, you got the topics. You got

1:05

the day -to -day. You know what's going on

1:07

in the world of baseball. I'll get back into

1:09

it. I promise, especially on X, but let's

1:11

go fire it off. What do we got? Bring

1:13

us in, Chucky. Bring us in, buddy. Right

1:15

off the bat. I'm scrolling through X. I know

1:17

it's targeted at me, but you know what?

1:19

You have house cyber at a crying poor on

1:21

the internet. I don't have enough money. You know

1:23

what? It's embarrassing. What's going on out here?

1:25

He's, he's crying poor. He wants to hang out

1:28

with the A's. He wants to hang out

1:30

with the Marlins apparently. I don't know what you

1:32

guys feel like, but to me, what

1:34

the dodge is doing is good for baseball.

1:36

I think spending that money

1:38

and having as much resources as

1:41

possible is huge for baseball. So I don't

1:43

know about you guys, but I'm pro team deferred

1:45

money. I'm pro, I'm pro signing these guys

1:47

and no cap. Let's do this. But I

1:49

don't know how you guys feel about ownership in baseball.

1:51

I think crying poor as a New York Yankees owner is

1:53

a little embarrassing. I don't know about you guys. Yeah,

1:56

that's a tough one. That's a tough one. Again,

1:59

you know, I We said this last

2:01

time, I think what the Dodgers are

2:03

doing are great for baseball because it's

2:05

gonna make other teams go out there

2:07

and spend. And if you wanna compete

2:09

and win a championship, you need the

2:11

best players and the best players

2:13

are gonna cost more money than the

2:15

good players or even just the average

2:17

players. So you want the best players,

2:19

you wanna win, you're gonna have to

2:22

go out there, spend money, get these

2:24

guys that fill out your lineup, fill

2:26

out your rotation, and you know. Maybe

2:28

you might have a chance in October

2:30

when you run up against the NLL

2:32

All-Star team out here in Los Angeles

2:34

with, you know, five to nine Future Hall

2:37

of Famers. Yeah, why don't the Yankees,

2:39

why don't they start getting creative? I

2:41

mean, the Dodgers got all this

2:43

deferred money happening and we sell Toronto

2:45

now to it with Santon there.

2:48

I mean, why don't they start doing

2:50

that? I think if the Yankees would

2:52

have got Soda, if Soda would have

2:54

agreed to gone there for the seven,

2:56

you know, whatever it, I think that would

2:58

have been a tougher situation for the

3:00

Yankees because they would have had to

3:02

have gone out and the fans would

3:05

expect them to get more, spend more.

3:07

I think now not getting Soto, they

3:09

get three or four guys, one through

3:11

trade, a couple guys, a couple guys,

3:13

a couple guys, a couple guys, a couple

3:16

guys, a couple guys, a couple guys, a

3:18

few guys, a couple guys, a few guys,

3:20

a couple guys, a crazy guys want to

3:22

go out there and play with him, and

3:25

play with him. and get guys in pin

3:27

stripes. I mean, there's still rocking pin

3:29

stripes, but get guys over there and

3:31

pin stripes with some deferred money or

3:34

something, let's go. I'll tell you what, I

3:36

know. I think he's got to realize, you

3:38

know, what the cost of goods have

3:40

risen. I just paid $11 for egg

3:42

yesterday. I think he's got to realize

3:44

some players are going to cost a

3:46

little bit more. But speaking of the

3:48

ownership and baseball, shout out to the

3:50

Braves for getting a friend of the

3:53

program. jerks and pro far. I think

3:55

if this team's able to stay healthy

3:57

and adding pro far is going to

3:59

do one. team. I don't know how you guys feel

4:01

about pro far landing with the Braves. Yeah,

4:03

I love that. Absolutely love it. Again, again,

4:05

I think we were talking about it earlier.

4:07

It makes that outfield one of the best

4:09

in baseball, you know, adding a guy like

4:11

that, you know, even though his defensive run saves

4:13

were down this year, which I think

4:15

we're going to get into that a

4:18

little bit later. I still think he's

4:20

one of the best left fielder in

4:22

baseball. And the reason I think his

4:24

defensive run saves are down is because

4:26

nobody wants to run on pro. That's

4:28

what you go over in the scouting

4:30

report before games. As you know it,

4:32

if the balls hit to pro far's

4:34

left or right, we're probably not going

4:36

to run. If it's hit at them,

4:38

we're probably not going to run. If

4:40

it's hit to left field, we're just

4:42

probably not going to run. So I

4:44

mean, it's yeah, just don't do it.

4:46

But that guy is going to make

4:48

that team even better than they already

4:50

are. And I'm excited. Oh,

4:52

yeah, you throw them in there all bees of

4:54

Coonya. They're going to be, I mean, they're going

4:56

to have so much energy. As soon as those

4:59

guys, the dugout, I can already see their dugout

5:01

just going wild, going nuts. That

5:03

division out there, that's a mean division. I mean, with

5:05

what the Phillies have, the Mets, the

5:07

moves they're making, the Braves, you

5:10

obviously sleep on the Braves. That's a

5:12

real division that at least. But

5:14

pro far, that's a great sign. I mean, about time

5:16

pro far got his money. He went out, earned

5:18

it, had a career year, all star, the whole

5:20

deal. Shout out to pro. That's a huge

5:22

deal for him. But

5:25

yeah, I mean moves sent it exactly. Listen,

5:27

there's no reason defensively he should be

5:29

one run above Kyle Schwabber and left field.

5:31

Like we all know Schwabber, he's

5:33

out there to hit homers. Like he's hitting

5:35

tanks. He's doing what he can left field,

5:37

but he's probably going to try and stay

5:39

healthy versus try and make a crazy play

5:41

because he's hitting tanks. Pro far takes his defense

5:44

out there serious. He's making crazy

5:46

plays, great throws. So that's crazy to

5:48

me, but that's a whole nother argument with

5:50

that whole defensive run saved and all that. And

5:53

speaking of free agents, stay to stay on

5:55

topic a little bit. I'm driving, I'm getting

5:57

going driving my haircut today. So this is

5:59

sports radio. What pops up

6:01

today? They're talking about digging

6:03

deep in New York sports

6:05

radio. I don't know, but

6:07

this clip's getting a little bit

6:10

of buzz. But Bernie

6:12

Williams mentioned how he

6:14

called Steinbrana to get the deal

6:16

done. And I want to ask you

6:18

guys, is it time for Peter

6:20

Lanzo to call the Mets to

6:22

call Cohen and get a deal done?

6:24

What do you guys think about that?

6:27

Pick up the phone, Pete. It's time,

6:29

dog. You become the host and your phone

6:31

is blowing up. Buddy, guys are right. People are

6:33

already calling you getting on the horn. Look at

6:35

him. He's ready. He's a superstar baby. I love it.

6:38

But burn baby burn. Basically, I mean, we just

6:40

had him on digging at home. It was unbelievable to

6:42

catch up with him. He's a guy, you know, I

6:44

mentioned on digging at home. My brother were 51, the

6:46

Jersey number, because of him. So like Bernie was someone

6:49

I looked up to all the time. But Bernie,

6:51

long story short short short short says that

6:53

during long story short says that during

6:55

his friend. Scott at some point was

6:57

just like hey man this is all

6:59

I think I can get from the

7:01

Yankees I think we have to move

7:03

on it's a different situation and he

7:05

was like what else can I do

7:07

can I pick up the phone and

7:10

call George and he's like yeah Scott

7:12

goes pick up the phone call George

7:14

so sure so sure enough he tells

7:16

pick up the phone call George so

7:18

sure enough he tells us that

7:20

story picks up the phone call Stevie

7:22

I feel like if we see Pete

7:24

Alonzo Stevie Yeah, I want to know.

7:26

I want to know how far

7:29

apart they are. You know, I

7:31

want to know where like the

7:33

numbers are lying right now. What

7:35

what what is the significant holdup?

7:37

How far away are we from

7:39

reaching a deal? And if we're that

7:41

far away, maybe it might be

7:43

time to, you know, look elsewhere.

7:45

But if you're not that far

7:47

away and you're close, you know,

7:50

I again, pick that phone up, you

7:52

know, monoey mono, call them. Let's,

7:54

let's, Yeah, that's what I don't, this is

7:56

what I don't see happening. I don't see

7:59

Pete Collins TV. I mean, Steve, listen,

8:01

I've been the guy here for six, seven

8:03

plus years. I see where this organization

8:05

is going. I want to be a

8:07

part of it. I want to continue

8:10

to be a part of it. Up front

8:12

and center with Lindor, all these guys,

8:14

what's the hold up here? What's the

8:16

hold up here? How far were we apart? How

8:18

far were we apart? All these guys?

8:20

What's the hold up here? How far

8:22

were we apart? How far were we

8:24

apart? face of the franchise, you know,

8:27

he grew up in New York with

8:29

that system, with that organization. He's the guy

8:31

that, you know, fans can can look at

8:33

and be like, oh, that's our first baseman,

8:35

you know, that's the polar bear and

8:37

you got to do what you can to

8:40

keep him around. And I think, I mean,

8:42

just pick the phone, man, let's get it.

8:44

Steve Cohen has said, owning the

8:46

Mets, he's considered philanthropy. He

8:48

said it's philanthropy. Whatever that word is

8:51

philanthropy, whatever. He said it's that, and

8:53

you know what, you're a fan of

8:55

the Mets, you got $26 billion. If

8:57

you gave good old Washup, Chuck's $26

9:00

billion, everyone's a Yankee, I don't care.

9:02

So what are we doing? We're crying

9:04

over pennies at this point, get the

9:06

deal done, and you know what? I like

9:09

seeing Peter and Peter rounds. He's out

9:11

there. Did you see the renderings of

9:13

what city field is going to look

9:15

like? Did you see all the stuff around

9:17

it? They got all the stuff around they

9:19

got the soccer field, they got the train

9:21

stage, all that stuff. That's going to

9:24

be the team in New York, Chuck.

9:26

It's going to be the team. The

9:28

one thing that I don't know if

9:30

you guys can get the same problem

9:32

I have. They can't get that stench

9:34

out of that stadium. You guys, you

9:36

know that smell them talking about? Let's

9:38

go. You know what I mean? Get the polar

9:40

bear there to wipe the stench out. Get

9:42

them back out there. You're doing a hell

9:44

of a job hosting right now. I love

9:46

this shout to the champagne. I used to

9:49

watch prices like my grandmother. Okay, I know

9:51

how to host it. I'm a fan of

9:53

MOB the show. You got this year, you

9:55

got Ellie, you got Gunner, and you got

9:57

Bobby with on the cover. Well, no, they

9:59

don't. and they don't have Bobby wet on the

10:01

cover my bed you put Paul schemes on you

10:04

I think they made a mistake not going

10:06

with the future of this position those

10:08

three studs throwing them on the cover I

10:10

don't know if you guys you guys dabble in it

10:12

will be the show a little bit oh yeah oh yeah

10:14

I got some ideas chucky I got some

10:16

ideas probably the show as well I

10:18

only listen first and foremost we need

10:20

to keep this simple And I'm just

10:23

going to go ahead and assume that

10:25

Bobby Witt Jr. just outpriced himself and

10:27

MLB the show had to move on

10:29

and look for another cover which it's

10:32

okay I respect Bobby Vernon I love

10:34

that about a price tag and that's

10:36

fine but I love that here we go

10:38

hear me out here we got three guys on

10:40

here we got three three guys on here

10:43

we got three guys on the show what

10:45

they did here's on the cover we got

10:47

here we got three three guys on the

10:49

show what I thought I was on the

10:51

cover same Then, what if we're doing

10:53

two different editions? You got the top

10:55

three short stops and then you got

10:57

top three starting pictures. So you

10:59

got a pictures edition, you got a position

11:02

player edition, you can go there, highlight some

11:04

more players, get them in the cover, you

11:06

know what I'm talking about? And then, for

11:08

the game, as a feature of the game,

11:11

I hate saying this as a position player,

11:13

how bad-ass would it be to develop

11:15

or design your own pitch design? All

11:17

these guys are doing all this crazy-

11:19

You know what I'm talking about? The

11:21

computer screens are throwing bullpens with. Why

11:24

don't we, all of a sudden, you can

11:26

pitch, you can create your own pitch design,

11:28

you get the attributes up, I'm playing Chucki

11:30

online, all of a sudden he sees this

11:32

pitch and he's like, what's spitting on it?

11:34

Is this a splinker? I'm like, this is

11:36

my pitch, dude. So there we got my

11:38

pitch back. First and foremost, let's keep it

11:40

simple. Bobby with Junior's got it. You need

11:42

to have to have a face. You know, yeah, shout

11:45

out to Paul Skeens though again,

11:47

though, man. I mean, this guy's

11:49

absolutely savage, you know, stud. But

11:51

you get those three short stops,

11:53

you know, the faces of the

11:56

position coming up. I mean, again,

11:58

missed opportunity, but. Uh, you

12:00

know, I think, I think again,

12:02

if Hawes is correct and Bobby prices

12:04

way out of it kudos

12:06

to you Bobby I love that for you. Shout

12:09

out Hawes going back to the like Pokemon blue

12:11

versus red edition with his little two editions

12:13

of the show too. I respect that. Oh my

12:15

god. That's a little red versus blue.

12:17

So I'm saying, imagine you got the three

12:19

short stops doing the selfie videos and you're like,

12:21

oh, it's a short stop edition. All of

12:23

a sudden Hawes Keane just jumps on there. He's like, hey,

12:25

hold the phone. Hold the phone.

12:28

I mean, this is the undertaker

12:30

essentially. Let's go. Hey, Celine on the

12:32

way. Yeah, now then I love that.

12:34

Maybe you buy the Paul Skeene's version.

12:36

You buy the Paul Skeene's version. Your pictures

12:38

get attributes, you know, by the short

12:41

stops version. See the one of one card

12:43

just got pulled or what do they call? I

12:45

saw that. Yeah. It's 11 year old kid, right? Not

12:47

giving it up. My brain has

12:49

been ruined. I don't get

12:51

anything anymore. You don't believe it. He

12:54

had a three page essay ready to go already.

12:57

You know,

12:59

so are you telling me

13:01

when when all two seven pulled the

13:03

rookie card with the young Oh

13:05

my God. Don't break two seven.

13:07

The first first pack. The very

13:09

first pack. You don't think that

13:11

that. No, you don't think that

13:13

that was real. Chuck, come on.

13:15

I suppose anything's possible. I suppose

13:17

my son's not pulling that card. I'm just saying

13:19

right now my billing At least I just throw

13:21

it out there on the program. You know, I

13:24

question my billing address. Chuck, you kidding me? Oh

13:26

boy. Don't get started on that. All right. We're

13:28

good. We're good. Let's move on. Let's move on.

13:30

right. This is why we got a host. This

13:32

is why you're the deal. But anyways, I hate

13:34

to be that guy, but if the 11 year

13:36

old, if it's true, it's smart. Do not take the

13:38

deal. Get more. Get more in there. Yeah. Hold

13:40

on to it. single I would have taken it

13:42

30 years of season tickets. I'm down. I'm

13:45

moving to them. I'm can throw you a charity

13:47

softball game somewhere else. Yeah. It's not even on

13:50

the big field. Okay. It's not even on the

13:52

big field. No. All right. I think Big and

13:54

Beep could put a package together and get that

13:56

rookie card. The

13:58

payments are going

14:01

to be a little...

14:03

the lane but less very good we're

14:05

gonna to be here we're gonna get

14:07

created there we go created guys last

14:09

thing Is the shredder broken guys? I'm

14:11

going to be the striker Brian Kenny

14:13

with his cowboy boots. I don't know

14:15

why he's wearing cowboy boots and suits

14:17

with that quaffed hair. Listen, you can't

14:19

have Bobby Witt as the fourth shortstop

14:21

in baseball, okay? The answer be Swanson,

14:23

six, is shortstop in baseball. I think

14:25

the shortstop place is way too strong

14:28

right now to be given to disrespect

14:30

Bobby Witt number one. And then also, this guys

14:32

that are too low on this list, I mean,

14:34

how do you guys feel about this top

14:36

ten list and the shredder in general?

14:38

Shredder is never fixed. I mean, there

14:40

was never, it was, I don't even

14:43

know how to say that, there was

14:45

never a shredder because the list

14:47

that these shredder has been

14:49

coming out with. I mean,

14:51

if MLB Network's just doing

14:53

it for engagement on social

14:56

media, they're doing a genius thing

14:58

and it's a hell of

15:00

a job because these lists

15:02

just fire people up on

15:05

X moves because they're out.

15:07

Absolutely. If you just watch

15:09

baseball, you could figure out

15:11

who's really good at shortstop.

15:13

But yeah, that obviously the

15:15

thing's been broken for forever.

15:18

And there's any time you

15:20

don't have Bobby Witt at number

15:22

one or in the top two,

15:24

it's time to go back

15:26

and reconstruct the algorithm.

15:28

And any list. I mean, if

15:31

we're talking about top five players

15:33

in the show, I mean, Bobby

15:36

Witt Jr. four you would still be like

15:38

what and then I mean this is you can't

15:40

make a shortstop list without him

15:42

being number one first no I agree and

15:44

what is the shredder projecting is

15:47

it projecting next year is it

15:49

saying this is the best shortstop in

15:51

today's game like I have so many

15:53

questions when I see all these lists

15:55

of top ten shortstops that's what I

15:58

want to know like first of all is it if

16:00

I got game seven, I need one shortstop to

16:02

win a ball game, this is the best

16:04

shortstop. Are we turning injuries off, Chucky, like

16:06

you always say, and you always do? And

16:08

like, how much are we valuing defense? Because

16:10

at the same time, if we're valuing defense,

16:12

like you should at shortstop, this is the

16:14

middle, I mean, the middle of your field

16:17

that you need to protect on the defensive

16:19

side. If we're valuing defense like we

16:21

should, this changes the game on these list,

16:23

Chucky. You can't just present. two professionals

16:25

like Moose and I list and not

16:27

come with detail you know what I'm

16:29

saying Chuck? Fair point, fair point. Yeah.

16:31

Listen I think I just think the

16:33

shredder's got to step it up you know

16:35

listen last time the shutting out the feed

16:38

it was the teenage muting into turtles so

16:40

maybe we got to bring them back okay

16:42

and take this thing out once and for

16:44

all okay that's what I'm doing get rid

16:46

of the shredder. Dinemight Chucki I love

16:49

this and shout out one last shout

16:51

out. Oh hey. Our friend of the

16:53

program, friend of a friend of a

16:55

program, hasten Kim returning back to

16:58

Tampa Bay. Well never, he's never

17:00

there probably before, but he's gonna

17:02

be outdoors now so he's gonna

17:04

have plenty of air, fresh air.

17:07

I think him playing in that

17:09

shortstop, playing on that team is gonna

17:11

do one this because whenever they

17:13

decide to pick up a player, they

17:15

usually means they have a good reasoning

17:18

for it. Shout on Kim. He's right

17:20

there I want to. He's right there.

17:22

I just went HSK. We're going to

17:24

be releasing our list. And let me

17:26

tell you, this list is stressing me

17:29

out, buddy, because I'm seeing some of

17:31

these lists and I have so many

17:33

questions because it's just like, okay, are we

17:35

just putting short stops there and whoever

17:37

just mashes? I get it. Is this

17:39

guy the best hitter of their group?

17:41

Maybe. Yeah. But then like at the

17:43

same time, are we value in defense.

17:45

This guy had 30 years. And you're

17:47

saying this guy's number nine and this

17:49

guy's two. But first and foremost, it starts with

17:51

Bobby, would you? Let's go. I think we all

17:54

agree with three agree on that. The way I look

17:56

at shortstop is I want when I was playing third

17:58

base, I want to look to my left. and

18:00

see a guy that's going to make

18:02

me significantly better than I really

18:04

am. So I can

18:06

only cover the right side and

18:08

you can have all of that over

18:10

there. This is all your position.

18:12

So many different flavors of short stuff.

18:14

So you got, this is where

18:16

again, why we think Bobby Witt is

18:19

above and beyond because he's got

18:21

40 bags in a year, 40 homers,

18:23

MVP type stuff, defensively, he's got

18:25

all that type of stuff. So it's

18:27

kind of a league of his

18:29

own. Then you got the guys that

18:31

you give up a little bit

18:33

of the defensive end because they mash,

18:36

Seager, Gunner, Henderson, you're, you're getting

18:38

solid defense, but you're, yeah, sluggers. You're

18:40

not getting above and beyond, but

18:42

you're going to get 30 homers. You're

18:44

going to get guys that mash.

18:46

And then you got the guys, you

18:48

know, that play consistent defense, the

18:50

Lindors, the Koreas, the guys that are

18:52

nails defensively. They rake as well,

18:55

get big hits. They can do a

18:57

little bit of everything as well.

18:59

So it's like, what's your flavor of

19:01

short stuff? Bobby Witt. Yeah. Yeah,

19:03

he's not for, no, no, because this

19:05

is a thing too. This is

19:07

a thing too with this list. I

19:09

mean, if you're talking, if you're

19:12

talking careers, like so far up into

19:14

this point, what they've done, their

19:16

resume, obviously, you know, Bobby Witt will

19:18

project to be number one in

19:20

our list, but I mean, Francisco Lindor,

19:22

if you start to look up

19:24

his career numbers, and then you start

19:26

to factor in some of the

19:28

disrespect that he's gotten with the Mets,

19:31

not making all -star games. He still

19:33

has four, probably should have six,

19:35

should have some more gold gloves. I

19:37

mean, Frankie Lindor, he's close to

19:39

250 homers, had 30 plus and five

19:41

different seasons. You cannot sleep on

19:43

this guy. He gets disrespected in all

19:45

these lists. Absolutely. I mean, I

19:47

don't know where he's out on the

19:50

list in the shredder, but I

19:52

mean, this guy, the top three, depending

19:54

on what you want, I think

19:56

they're almost interchangeable. Bobby Witt is obviously

19:58

number one at all times, but like

20:00

two, three, I mean, depending on where

20:02

you're at, I think it's, I

20:05

mean, Lindor has to be up

20:07

there in that category, just based

20:09

on how he's performed throughout his

20:11

entire career and what he continues

20:13

to do. You know, there's gonna

20:16

be, you know, some younger guys

20:18

on there that have had a

20:20

good year, had a bad year,

20:22

and are projected to be great.

20:24

I want someone that is, you know,

20:26

consistently going out there, you know,

20:28

Trey Turner, like, you know what

20:30

you're gonna get from those guys.

20:33

They are going to come out there

20:35

and, you know, play that position at

20:37

the highest level and they're

20:39

going to get big hits and

20:41

be, you know, productive every single

20:43

year. And I mean, when, when Frankie

20:45

Lindor is, with all the disrespect

20:48

he's gotten, like he said, Haas,

20:50

I mean, to just continuously go

20:52

out there and outperform and just

20:54

put blinders on and see that.

20:56

I mean, I absolutely. he is

20:58

as good as he is and

21:00

probably better than anybody really you

21:02

know gives him credit for. I think

21:04

yeah I mean we gotta lock him in. Yeah and

21:06

baseball is a sport where like longevity

21:09

that stuff matters and that plays a

21:11

huge role in that so like when you take

21:13

a guy like Lindor I mean this guy him

21:15

and singer both 10 plus years in the

21:17

big leagues and they've been doing this at

21:19

a high level for and then when you

21:21

start to look at Lindor like the

21:23

five seasons of 30 plus homers the the

21:25

four which should be about six all-stars

21:28

the gold gloves like to do that

21:30

year in and year out that's got

21:32

to mean something right and like you

21:34

look at some of the guys on the

21:36

list and don't get me wrong these guys

21:38

are potentially gonna be superstars

21:41

there's no doubt but when you're

21:43

going to be superstars there's no

21:45

doubt but when you're second-third

21:48

there's no doubt but when you're second

21:50

third you're in and you're like this

21:52

guy's done it for 10 plus years

21:54

So for me, that's where I have a

21:57

hard time seeing some names above Francisco

21:59

indoor. and especially when you mention in

22:01

the post-season as well. Both Siger and Lindor

22:03

have done it on the big stage. Yeah,

22:06

and you know, to what you said, Chucky

22:08

and Haas, like, you look at these guys

22:10

at the top, and these guys are playing

22:12

for the post-season contenders. They have to go

22:14

out there and contribute. They are expected to

22:17

go out there and be a huge part

22:19

of the success, and there's a lot of

22:21

pressure that goes with that. and they go

22:23

out there and perform every single night and

22:25

people don't I don't think people realize you

22:28

know the expectations that are put on you

22:30

and you know as as players as you

22:32

know superstars but the expectations that are put

22:34

on you by yourself as well to go

22:36

out there and perform these guys do it

22:39

at the highest level and it's it's awesome

22:41

to watch and you know shout out to

22:43

all those guys dude it's insane yeah insane

22:45

it's almost like with Lindor like the first

22:47

impression in New York he got off to

22:50

a rough start there when he first signed

22:52

and then after that I mean that was

22:54

what the first half first couple months of

22:56

that season for him finished strong yeah then

22:58

after that he's been nails so like what's

23:01

the nails we need to move on from

23:03

that because the guys yeah playing like an

23:05

MVP shortstop over there my revised list he's

23:07

number two and I'll tell you right now

23:09

a lot of a lot of a lot

23:12

of young guys I think are making the

23:14

push to me in the top ten so

23:16

I mentioned outside of this program. Zach Nedo

23:18

and Tovar from the Rockies, I think those

23:20

are two young guys that are on the

23:23

way up. I know you guys are more

23:25

of the experience throughout, so how do you

23:27

guys feel about those two guys? You think

23:29

the young bucks are on their way up

23:31

or we still got the long way to

23:34

go to getting that top 10? NEDO, first

23:36

of all, NEDO through a five guy. He's

23:38

always gonna be up there. He's never gonna

23:40

back down from anything, that's what I love.

23:43

That's what I love. when we talk about

23:45

like the flavors of shortstop, when I look

23:47

at Tovar's numbers, I really haven't gotten to

23:49

see much of him play, I think, and

23:51

like be there every day to judge it.

23:54

But I think of Dansby Swanson kind of

23:56

because to me, it's like Dansby, you appreciate

23:58

Dansby that much more if you play. with

24:00

him every day because he makes the routine

24:02

play. He's always in the right spots, knows

24:05

what he's doing, big knocks, knows how

24:07

to run the bases. So like the

24:09

defensive way besides run the bases, that's

24:11

kind of what I envision Tovar

24:13

to be just by looking at

24:15

his numbers because his numbers are

24:17

ridiculous defensively. Yeah, he's insane. Both

24:19

those guys are in the same

24:21

shortstop and like, like Chuck said, I think

24:23

in the next year or two, those guys

24:25

are going to be, you know, top ten

24:27

short stops for a very long time. Both

24:29

those guys do insane stuff on defense,

24:32

you know, but the one thing again

24:34

is they're both very young kids,

24:36

you know, they're very young and

24:38

they're still learning how to play

24:40

Major League Baseball and there's certain,

24:42

you know, aspects of the game

24:44

where they're still trying to learn

24:46

it, minus all the tools, their

24:48

tools are off the charts, you

24:50

know, hit for power, arm, you

24:52

know, fielding speed. They got all

24:54

five tools and once they put

24:56

all those together, it, those guys

24:58

are. both going to be insane and I'm

25:00

I'm excited because it was fun playing with

25:02

both of them both again different kind of

25:05

short stops but very similar in a lot

25:07

of ways and getting to play with both

25:09

those guys and watch them it's uh it's

25:11

pretty good pretty special. Jackie what's your flavor

25:13

of shortstop now? I want a winner I'll tell

25:16

you what that's what I want number one you

25:18

gotta be able to win because you

25:20

know I come from I think if

25:22

he's not on this list next year,

25:24

he's a new shortstop. That's a hot

25:26

take. First thing, you gotta be able

25:28

to win. And you know what? The

25:30

second thing, you gotta eat that chicken

25:33

palm. And I'm not convinced Andy Volpe

25:35

eats the chicken palms, OK? I think

25:37

his mom makes the chicken palm cutlets.

25:39

And that's where I'm a little nervous.

25:41

But you know, we're going to switch

25:43

him. I think if he's not on

25:46

this list next year, he's in a

25:48

new shortstop before the program. Oh my

25:50

perfect size. You need to go. Mrs. Volpe,

25:52

you got to go to Pastosa. Okay. They

25:54

have him in Jersey too. You get yourself

25:56

some Bell and Evans thin cutlets. You don't

25:58

got to do any. you just got

26:01

a bread them and see something

26:03

you're ready to go baby. Yeah, there

26:05

we go. That's the answer. That's

26:07

how you get to the top

26:09

10 right there, Mosie. That is that.

26:12

I need those. I need those

26:14

chicken cutlets, pal. Chuck, will you

26:16

treat the boys to those chicken

26:18

cutlets at some point in time?

26:21

I got you. I'll get the boys

26:23

to those chicken cutlets at some point

26:25

in time. I got you. We got

26:27

coming out next week for a digging

26:29

at home feature. Roman Anthony and I

26:31

played for the same high school coach

26:33

and Todd Fitzgerald. Roman went to Douglas High

26:35

School, I obviously went to American Heritage, but

26:38

it's pretty cool to talk to Rowe and

26:40

talk to him about kids, talk to him

26:42

about just kind of the transition from high

26:44

school to the Red Sox minor league system.

26:46

I mean, he's pretty sure he's a top

26:48

five prospect in all of baseball. So he

26:50

should be in Fenway next year. Could be in

26:52

the Bronx taking it out on. The New York

26:55

Yankees, Chuck. So just for 2025, if

26:57

we're comparing who we think is going

26:59

to be the best shortstop in 2025,

27:02

top 10, we're going to have to

27:04

count Mookie, right? Just like, because

27:06

we're going to assume right now

27:08

he's playing the whole season of

27:10

shortstop, right? So if that's the case,

27:12

you might have to ding them a

27:15

little bit with defense without knowing them.

27:17

So my top 10 right now, my top 10

27:19

is Bobby Bobby Witt, Lindor, gunner,

27:21

Mookieie, Seager, Tray. Ellie Dela

27:24

Cruz, William Damas, Zach Meadow,

27:26

and Tovar. So I have a

27:28

question. I have a question. One

27:30

question. Go ahead. If this

27:32

were your top 10 players in

27:34

baseball overall, would that, would Gunner

27:37

be ahead of Mookie? No. So why

27:39

is Gunner ahead of Mookie in your

27:41

shortstop? Because I don't know how he's

27:43

going to do it shortstop, I guess.

27:45

He doesn't hunt defense either. So what

27:47

are we... What's the value here? What

27:49

are we saying? No, no. I've already

27:51

done one reversion. I've only done one

27:54

reversion. One revision. That's it. You see

27:56

what I'm saying here though? I'm giving

27:58

him a boost. Don I mean... He's

28:00

not on any movie with the show, Mookie.

28:02

So I gotta go with the gun or

28:04

with that rub. He is the show,

28:06

Chuck. He is the show. At that point,

28:08

we're disrespected Mookie for not being number one.

28:10

If we don't care about this. Mookie

28:13

is the show. People show up

28:15

to see this guy. Listen professionals.

28:17

What's your top 10? I have

28:20

no idea because I don't know

28:22

anything. There's no tell anymore. Listen

28:24

down. We're gonna turn into the

28:27

list later when we get some

28:29

more details about what's going on.

28:31

Okay, we're gonna. I'm gonna make

28:34

multiple lists. I can make you

28:36

multiple lists. Whatever you want,

28:38

whatever we're talking about, we're

28:40

gonna make multiple lists

28:43

and I'm sending them in

28:45

and we're throwing them out there.

28:47

I'm going Bobby, Seeger, Korea.

28:49

Adamis, Gunner, Dansby, Ellie.

28:51

Okay. If you take Bo

28:53

out of Toronto, he's on my

28:55

list for sure. Hey, the guy's

28:57

a player. Chuck. Bo's a hitter.

29:00

Bo's a hitter. Bo's a hitter.

29:02

Bo-mash. Bo-mash is. And last

29:04

thing, why are you putting

29:06

Seeger ahead of, uh, Mooke

29:08

then? For what? He's put Seeger

29:11

in front of Mooke. So what's,

29:13

I put, I put, I put

29:15

Gunner in front of Mooke.

29:18

Maybe he. And also, Seger

29:20

won an MVP at

29:22

the position. Okay, it's

29:24

fair, fair points all

29:26

around guys. Now, do

29:28

I think in the

29:30

grand scheme of things,

29:33

Mookie is above Seger

29:35

in the whole baseball

29:37

positions? Yeah, yes, I

29:39

do. But we're doing shortstop

29:42

and the guy won a

29:44

MVP at that position. I've

29:46

said, Jackie. Shout out, move

29:48

straight. There's a shortstop, by

29:50

the way. Shout out. I

29:52

wouldn't have been on this list,

29:54

ever. His defense are run saved.

29:57

I wouldn't have just. You got

29:59

a cannon. Yeah, I have you. All right,

30:01

buddy. You gotta go make those cutlets.

30:03

Let's close this out here. This

30:05

is a hell of a program. I'm

30:08

fired up. No matter wherever you are,

30:10

whatever you do. You remember, guys, eat

30:12

a god damn snack.