0:00

It's crazy to me

0:02

that we are getting

0:04

a new GTA game

0:06

and the last game

0:08

came out in 2013.

0:10

I know, it's been a

0:12

minute. Okay, open. Okay, open.

0:14

All right, so anybody. Cut

0:16

off the CEO, he needs

0:18

to leave. Totally adjust the

0:20

drink, like it's like, oh,

0:22

I'm just saying, you don't

0:24

know, somebody ran by really

0:26

quickly, and they are already

0:28

out of the frame. See,

0:30

that bar is not fly-by-wire.

0:32

Exactly. Welcome to vacation.

0:35

Also, potentially hazardous to

0:38

your health. Why

0:41

do you have flies when you're

0:43

freaking out? I've noticed this earlier.

0:45

It's Southern California and I have

0:47

fruit. You put Zombly and you

0:49

put here in the title and

0:51

I don't want to do it.

0:53

Dignation.com. Hello everybody and welcome to

0:56

Dignation, episode number 12. I'm

0:58

Alex Albrecht. And I'm Kevin Rose.

1:00

Dignation covers some of the hottest

1:02

stories as found around the web

1:04

and the internet. Boy, it's really, I

1:07

haven't done so a million times. I'm the

1:09

most excited for us to get back

1:11

to doing this from Dig stories just

1:13

to smooth at the intro. Because it's

1:15

not been smooth since we got back. Hey,

1:17

cheers, my friend. Good to see

1:20

you. Yeah, you will, obviously

1:22

our copy before was based

1:24

on the stories of Dig.com.

1:26

But since the site is

1:28

not live yet, Sunish, we

1:30

don't have to say that.

1:32

Well, and we can also

1:34

say, I think, believe so,

1:36

that. Though we had said

1:38

that this was the Dignation

1:40

Studio here in Hollywood,

1:43

California, which of course it technically

1:45

is the other thing that we neglected

1:47

to mention is it's actually in the

1:49

current dig offices. Right. Which is awesome.

1:52

It is awesome. So the some of

1:54

the dig team, yeah, if you want

1:56

any camera, move your way, go away.

1:58

So it's really actually. quite nice because

2:00

everybody just got really quiet when we

2:03

were like, okay, let's start. I was

2:05

like, oh. But yeah, dude, and freaking,

2:07

look at the. I know, look at

2:09

that. The person that dodged the camera

2:11

who, I can't say their name, did

2:13

that up there. It's so nice is

2:16

that person that dodged the camp. Which

2:18

is awesome. Thank you for making little

2:20

indignation. I had so much fun at

2:22

Southside. I did not. Oh my God,

2:24

are you kidding me? It was so

2:26

much fun, Kevin. I agree to agree

2:29

to disagree. Okay, well, where's the disagree?

2:31

Because it was funny when you came

2:33

in and I was like, oh my

2:35

God, it was so much fun. Shots

2:37

happened, soccer happened. Is what happened? I

2:39

know, don't say it two more times,

2:41

people fly in and give a shot.

2:44

A couple friends called me up and

2:46

they were like, oh my God, you

2:48

were hammered. And I'm like, oh, Jesus.

2:50

And like, you know, there's that temptation,

2:52

do I go and watch the episode

2:54

again? Yes. No, I will not do

2:57

that. I cannot bring myself to do

2:59

it. I saw the clip of us,

3:01

I mean, it wasn't Reno. Which, no.

3:03

Yes, it was my arena. To be

3:05

fair, that was my goal, was just

3:07

don't make it Reno, for me personally.

3:10

I see you flew in the face

3:12

of that goal. Dude, I didn't know

3:14

Saka was gonna be bringing the shots

3:16

up. Why would we? I think soccer

3:18

was going to be a pretty shot

3:20

thing. Well, we didn't know, but everyone

3:22

with the crowd was like, yeah, the

3:25

soccer, soccer, soccer. And I was just

3:27

like, I kind of got into it.

3:29

I mean, there's no way we're to,

3:31

I mean, look, spoiler alert, everybody knows

3:33

this. Go back and watch any episode.

3:35

Remember the Reno moment when somebody handed

3:38

us the fucking giant bowl of alcohol

3:40

that we chugged? Yeah. Like if we're

3:42

doing a live show and someone somehow,

3:44

maybe like a guest. brings up shots.

3:46

There's an adrenaline factor. I mean, first

3:48

of all, I hate tequila. Like, tequila

3:51

is my least favorite outball. And usually

3:53

throw up. I was very nice. I

3:55

also don't know what a hundred point

3:57

tequila is. No one really does. So

3:59

that was the best thing. He was

4:01

like, it's a hundred point tequila? And

4:03

everyone's like, oh, fuck. And then I

4:06

was like, after he left, I was

4:08

like, what's a hundred point tequila? I

4:10

was like, oh, soccer just made it

4:12

up. Yeah, so basically what happened is,

4:14

you know, when you're getting ready to

4:16

go unsteaded. Oh, by the way, Kevin.

4:19

What? The other thing that they don't

4:21

know is. You had a slice of

4:23

pizza. You had a slice of a

4:25

couple times that we had coming for

4:27

us. And so we didn't get until

4:29

like just before the show. I know.

4:32

And then I'm glad that you have

4:34

you have one. But the funny thing

4:36

was like, I was like, okay, well,

4:38

you know, we haven't done a live

4:40

show in a long time. I'm largely

4:42

an introvert. Yes. And, you know, I'm

4:44

down when the cameras go on and

4:47

like, I'm down, like, turn it on.

4:49

Like, that's, it's, yeah. But I so

4:51

I had probably two drinks before I

4:53

got on stage. I believe that was

4:55

about right. And then when I got

4:57

on stage, it was like, okay, now

5:00

we got a drink, get a set

5:02

up, let's kick up the show. And

5:04

then I was like, shot. I was

5:06

like, okay, whoa, okay, now I'm at

5:08

three. And that's kind of like where

5:10

I tap out in the normal, like,

5:13

Kevin is not going to be hung

5:15

over the next day. Yeah, just called

5:17

a called a Thursday. Yeah, no, I'm

5:19

talking me in right now. I'm going

5:21

to bed. Yeah, exactly. We have two

5:23

more guests going up to bed. I

5:25

bed, bed, I go to bed. So,

5:28

I will say after the third, I

5:30

think we did three shots. Yeah. And

5:32

they, by the way, those were not

5:34

shot glasses. Those were baby wine glasses.

5:36

Yes. Filled with tequila. It was a

5:38

lot. After the third shot. I remember

5:41

going like this. Ooh. Oh. actively drunk.

5:43

Yes. There's no and you were passively

5:45

drunk. I was not passively drunk. I

5:47

had been passively drunk and I immediately

5:49

turned to actively drunk. Right. And then

5:51

at one point I poured what I

5:54

thought was a done shot out and

5:56

it spilled so then we had to

5:58

do another one. Yeah. That was on

6:00

me. I should have looked at the

6:02

class. You poured one out? No, no,

6:04

no! It had a splash more in

6:07

it than I thought. When I was

6:09

like, see, I took my shot, and

6:11

I went like this, and something came

6:13

out, and the audience was like, I

6:15

literally thought it was done, and so

6:17

Sakha. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly.

6:19

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. It was fun.

6:22

Yeah, I literally thought it was done,

6:24

and so Saka. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I

6:26

do want to apologize to the crowd

6:28

because I got a chance to say

6:30

hi to some people, but I really

6:32

did not make it through the crowd

6:35

the way I wanted to say hi

6:37

to everyone. You did? You came back?

6:39

I'm like sitting in a chair like

6:41

hammed and you come back and you're

6:43

like, do we? I had a family

6:45

friend that came out and brought her

6:48

daughter who was like, to meet you.

6:50

And then I had, I felt so

6:52

bad, I had this person I was

6:54

supposed to talk to you, and I

6:56

was hammered and. Did you talk to

6:58

them and you thought the interaction was

7:00

weird because your hammer or you just

7:03

couldn't, didn't make it happen? I had

7:05

a family friend that came out, it

7:07

was my sister's best friend that came

7:09

out and brought her daughter who was

7:11

like, to meet you. Just on like,

7:13

I'm like, I'm like, me stuff that

7:16

I'm doing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And

7:18

so she comes out to say hi,

7:20

I'm like, I am a ham. And

7:22

I'm like, this is not a good

7:24

first impression for some young, like, you

7:26

know, personally, just like getting a career

7:29

off the ground. I'm like, hey, this

7:31

is what we normally do. Look forward

7:33

to this future. She's like, oh, I'm

7:35

going to become a botanist. Exactly. So

7:37

basically there's like this like beautiful like

7:39

little discrete Japanese bar in Austin that's

7:41

like invioli and all that's quiet. They

7:44

play vinyl and stuff and so there's

7:46

like a group of people that go

7:48

afterwards and apparently like Saka gets there

7:50

and everyone's ham, right? And they pour

7:52

these drinks, they make them all shaken

7:54

like perfect. clean everything. And they come

7:57

over and one of the drinks is

7:59

like, yeah, it's okay. And like, I

8:01

don't really want it. And so Saka's

8:03

like, you know, a little ham, he's

8:05

like, hey, can I have a second

8:07

drink? I don't like this drink. And

8:10

they're like, sir, we can only serve

8:12

you one drink at a time. And

8:14

so he fucking grabs your drink. So

8:16

he got kicked out of a bar.

8:18

which is along with the entire group,

8:20

but it was just one of those

8:22

nights. It was one of those nights

8:25

where everyone got a little. Yeah, I

8:27

mean, as I was saying to you,

8:29

thank God my wife was there, because

8:31

Heather was like, such a good wingman.

8:33

I literally was like, because I come

8:35

back, we're just finished, get off the

8:38

stage, Mix Master Mike is starting up,

8:40

and I'm like, I gotta go make

8:42

sure I say hi to everybody. And

8:44

so I. just go straight out into

8:46

the audience and try my best to

8:48

just sort of meet, see as many

8:51

people as I can and say hi

8:53

to them. And so I'm just drunkenly

8:55

swerving through saying hi, taking pictures, hi,

8:57

fobs, hugs. I think I cried on

8:59

that with this guy. It was like,

9:01

I had this really like cool emotional

9:03

moment with this kid. And it was

9:06

just like, it was just like, it

9:08

was like, mid 20s or something like

9:10

that. But it was really cool. It

9:12

was like this, we had this like

9:14

moment. And it was like, I don't

9:16

even remember. But it was just something

9:19

about like inspiring because the kid was

9:21

like, I want to try to do

9:23

this stuff. And I was like, I'm

9:25

already, I've done my bit. You need

9:27

to go and do your bit. You

9:29

need to go and do your bit.

9:32

You know, I had my bit. You

9:34

need to go and do your bit.

9:36

You know, I had my fun. You

9:38

know. I was like, oh. Okay, I

9:40

go this way. People are part of

9:42

them. But it was super fun. And

9:44

then when I got done, I kind

9:47

of got through as many people as

9:49

I could meet. And then I was

9:51

like, I got to get back into

9:53

the back. I literally walk in and

9:55

I see Heather and I was like,

9:57

we should go. And Heather was like,

10:00

yes, we're all and everybody was sort

10:02

of leaving at that time. So I

10:04

went out and literally as we walked.

10:06

at the door, this car pulled up,

10:08

and I was like, oh, we should

10:10

get an Uber. And she goes, this

10:13

is our Uber. And I was like,

10:15

oh. I got into the Uber. It

10:17

was like, Charlie, the chocolate factory. I

10:19

got into the Uber. And the next

10:21

thing I remember, I'm eating a hamburger

10:23

in my bed. Like I have no

10:25

conscious memory of how I got you

10:28

out of the hotel. I just woke

10:30

up and I just woke up and

10:32

I was like, oh, hamburger. And then

10:34

you're like, you're like, like, like, like,

10:36

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

10:38

like, like, like, passed out, like, like,

10:41

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

10:43

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

10:45

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

10:47

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

10:49

like, like, like, like, like, like, like

10:51

to the hotel and then I remember

10:54

was like, wasn't that cool? Thadari and

10:56

she didn't seem to think it was

10:58

that cool. It was all right. Yeah,

11:00

I just fell asleep. It's like, whatever.

11:02

It was like one of those nights.

11:04

It felt, it felt so weird how

11:07

normal it felt. Does that make sense?

11:09

Like there was nothing, it just felt

11:11

like so easy. Like even backstage, like

11:13

yeah, there were nerves, but like as

11:15

soon as we got on, although it's

11:17

funny because like, not a regular episode

11:19

of Dignation, you know what I mean?

11:22

Like, we were just like, because it

11:24

was so excited because we had, a

11:26

lot of guests, you guys announcing the

11:28

whole dig.com revivalization, hello, hello, hi, good

11:30

to see you, hi, hi, Justin, hang

11:32

out. And then also we had all

11:35

these guests, because we were there, and

11:37

our buds, because we were there, because

11:39

we were there. is actually a sort

11:41

of follow-on for a story we were

11:43

going to potentially talk about. I mean,

11:45

I feel so bad for, like, Tim,

11:48

when we were, like, gonna announce his

11:50

game. Oh, I know. And we're like,

11:52

just about to wrap up with Tim.

11:54

We're like, anyway, you got anything else

11:56

going on? Oh, oh, yeah. This whole

11:58

thing. I know. So bad stuff that

12:00

we wanted to talk about, or no.

12:03

Like the secret like little private thing

12:05

the secret stuff Yeah, I mean yeah,

12:07

why don't you? Can I talk about

12:09

that for a second? Yeah, so I

12:11

will see. Before, the last time we

12:13

recorded. You don't even know how to,

12:16

but I'd have put it in the,

12:18

dude. I just stuck you guys on,

12:20

on black, that's it. You should come

12:22

in hand in the office more often.

12:24

Yeah, if I get one, then. All

12:26

right. So you're going to say the

12:29

thing about the secret things. One or

12:31

something. So basically, one of the things

12:33

that, you know, we're kind of marching

12:35

towards this, this. I think is going

12:37

to be a really fun thing for

12:39

people is we're having these fantastic debates

12:41

and kind of hashing out features and

12:44

talking about functionality and talking about how

12:46

we're going to be different and what

12:48

are the things and components that we

12:50

want to keep from the past. What

12:52

do we want to evolve going forward?

12:54

And there's a lot of amazing kind

12:57

of just like insider baseball, but also

12:59

if you're a fan you want to

13:01

watch this stuff and see all the

13:03

startup actually gets off the ground, you

13:05

probably would want to be there and

13:07

see that happen. So we came up

13:10

with this idea where what we're going

13:12

to do is we're going to make

13:14

a like an early access what were

13:16

we calling that those ground breakers ground

13:18

breakers so it's like the ground breakers

13:20

like tied to kind of like the

13:22

dig theme and so the idea is

13:25

like tied to kind of like the

13:27

dig theme and so the idea is

13:29

that if you sign up to be

13:31

one of these ground breakers which anyone

13:33

can do on the site when it

13:35

goes live and if it's But if

13:38

you sign up, we'll happen as you'll

13:40

get to pick your dig username early.

13:42

And then you will get one of

13:44

these ground breaker badges like forever, like

13:46

cemented into your profile. And then also,

13:48

and we're going to, if you were

13:51

at the Live Dignation, we're going to

13:53

send you these, don't worry about you,

13:55

you're going to get invited to all

13:57

this stuff. We have your email addresses.

13:59

Yeah! But you'll get, do I get

14:01

to be groundbreaking? Yeah, maybe you'll grow

14:03

bigger. Yeah. We'll say slash Alex for

14:06

you. Oh, ooh, yeah. I mean, if

14:08

that's what you want, you don't have

14:10

to take that either. Christ, how many

14:12

cocktails? These are all nice. These are

14:14

actually mine. I have actually have a

14:16

four-way straw I'm about to put into

14:19

all of these to have sighted it

14:21

all out. I literally did not even

14:23

notice any bills lined up and then

14:25

all of a sudden like bartender Justin

14:27

has appeared. To me fair, this is

14:29

this is kind of Kevin's ammo refills.

14:32

Jesus. That is better not be. It's

14:34

not indignation around, live indignation around two.

14:36

But so anyway, to finish up this

14:38

thought. Yeah. The other thing we're to

14:40

do is we're gonna have this little

14:42

tiny secret private community where we're going

14:44

to So you get to see like

14:47

early screenshots, debate and talk about the

14:49

functionality with us, what you'd like to

14:51

see, all of that stuff, and we'll

14:53

do kind of like, you know, weekly,

14:55

at least once, probably twice a week

14:57

updates of, you know, what's going on,

15:00

you know, what's probably twice a week

15:02

updates of, you know, what's going on.

15:04

So you get to see it like,

15:06

you know, the question is like, like,

15:08

like, Everyone would want it so you

15:10

got to figure out how to limit

15:13

it out So I think what we're

15:15

going to do is we're going to

15:17

figure out the price point And the

15:19

cool thing about it is a hundred

15:21

percent of proceeds is going to go

15:23

to I think we're going to the

15:26

internet archive foundation Which is the last

15:28

thing of which is a nonprofit which

15:30

helps backup the internet and save all

15:32

the web pages. So this is not

15:34

about us trying to make money. We

15:36

can't be a for-profit business because that

15:38

makes sense too. I mean you are

15:41

a for-profit. Right. The point being is

15:43

that it's not a way to say

15:45

hey we want to just do a

15:47

cash grab to grab an early username.

15:49

Like so that's all going to go

15:51

to the Internet archive as a donation

15:54

and then that's all going to go

15:56

to the Internet archive as a donation

15:58

and then that will get you access.

16:00

It's not who we are and we'll

16:02

do that. and then you'll get in

16:04

and get to sell the inside baseball

16:07

and chat with us and talk to

16:09

us about this stuff. I mean I

16:11

will say just even being like the

16:13

stealthy slack guy and seeing some of

16:15

the like under the design stuff where

16:17

it's like oh let's try this let's

16:19

try that let's try this and I'm

16:22

like, oh, that looks sexy. Like, this

16:24

is gonna be so cool. I mean,

16:26

you just saw some of the, um,

16:28

all avatar stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

16:30

it's gonna be dumb. Well, and I

16:32

think part of it really is a

16:35

positioning of, like, trying to make, dig

16:37

something that really is community built. Like,

16:39

it's like, we, you know, there's, there's

16:41

this idea of like, We have obviously

16:43

very strong opinions about what the future

16:45

of social should look like, but at

16:48

the same time, it's like, if that

16:50

was just us going into a cave

16:52

and just hacking our own way and

16:54

they'd be like, and this is what

16:56

the future of all social should be,

16:58

like, that feels disingenuous. And so I

17:00

think that this is kind of an

17:03

opportunity to show a different way to

17:05

build in public with, you know, people

17:07

who can, like, these people we're listening

17:09

to, this is what we're trying to

17:11

do when we're trying to do when

17:13

we're building actual real real, to get

17:16

that input and get that feedback, but

17:18

it's also a really cool opportunity, I

17:20

think, for other people to understand, like,

17:22

the hot dog is messy, it's not

17:24

perfect, and it sometimes looks really ugly,

17:26

and it will, you'll see ugly designs

17:29

in there, and, uh, that sounds fun.

17:31

I want the, the hot dog is

17:33

messy, dink. I'm sure. Just, like, a

17:35

big, slapping. Got a lot of merch

17:37

potential of this company. in the history

17:39

of our show. Did you design that

17:41

or did you? There was so much

17:44

good merge. No, it was a collaborative

17:46

effort. I did some of it. Emily,

17:48

one of our contractors who works with

17:50

us is awesome. She did all like

17:52

the posters and the branding and the

17:54

posters and the branding and the lion's

17:57

share of the work and it was

17:59

tremendous. I still have my bubble head.

18:01

It's hysterical. I love. I never got

18:03

one of myself. You didn't get one

18:05

of yourself? No. You sold a lot

18:07

of bubble heads, which is great. Did

18:10

we actually sell bubble heads? Yeah, we

18:12

did. I saw one more than you

18:14

did. I'm serious. No, I don't believe

18:16

that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just one one

18:18

of Kevin. Yeah, my wife just stole

18:20

one, so they go. It would have

18:22

even now. Yeah, I think so. So

18:25

before we get to, yes. I was

18:27

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the first story? Let's do it. Skyrise.

22:05

Unveils cockpit design for fly-by-wire R66. R66

22:07

is Robinson helicopter. So I have talked

22:09

ad nauseum at this point about my

22:11

dips into general aviation. Right. You got

22:13

your pilot's license back in the day.

22:16

I almost got my pilot's license back

22:18

in the day. No, I have my

22:20

student pilot's license. I like kind of

22:22

counts. Basically I got to the point

22:24

where I was like this is... Long

22:26

story, semi-long because this is what we're

22:29

here for. I am always looking at

22:31

aviation videos on YouTube, general aviation, people

22:33

that buy planes. I thought about buying

22:35

a plane the last time a couple

22:37

years ago where I went back to

22:39

get my pilot's license. You drink too

22:41

much. I drink so much. But planes

22:44

are fun. I know, but you don't

22:46

want to be hung over, like, you're

22:48

like, where's the not? Oh, I've definitely

22:50

done that. Have you? Oh, fuck, yeah.

22:52

You can mean you have a lesson,

22:54

you wake up, you're like, fuck, I'm

22:57

going to be at the airport at

22:59

8. What? Yeah. You did, you did,

23:01

you did the, I'm going to be

23:03

at the airport at 8. What? Yeah.

23:05

Yeah. But you did, but you did,

23:07

you did, you're going to be at

23:10

the planes are going to be at

23:12

the planes are going to be at

23:14

the planes are going to be at

23:16

the planes are going to be at

23:18

the airport at the airport at the

23:20

airport at the airport at the airport

23:22

at the airport at the airport at

23:25

the airport at the airport at the

23:27

airport at the airport at the airport

23:29

at the airport at the airport at?

23:31

the ability to go to a place.

23:33

Yes. Get the keys of a plane.

23:35

Yes. Get in a plane and be

23:38

like, I want to go to Palm

23:40

Springs. No. And it's Friday and it's

23:42

4 o'clock and it's going to take

23:44

five fucking hours. Right, because of traffic.

23:46

But it won't in a plane. It

23:48

won't in a helicopter. 25 minutes. So

23:51

I started looking into helicopters. That's my,

23:53

that was my new. One helicopter. That

23:55

shit is the worst. No. Kobe, rest

23:57

and peace. Sure, sure, sure, RIP, lots

23:59

of information about that. But he wasn't

24:01

flying the plane, it was like a

24:04

fucking... It was a helicopter, but yeah.

24:06

No, I'm sorry, helicopter. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

24:08

yeah. I mean, it was, when that

24:10

happened, I am... I love you. It's

24:12

been so long. I was like, I

24:14

got to talk about stuff. Yeah. Oh,

24:16

look at the little topper he's doing.

24:19

Oh. Fucking the dig.com treatment. Yeah. The

24:21

dotcom stands for, put it on top.

24:23

You're on fire today. Bro. It's been

24:25

so long. I was like, I got

24:27

to talk about something and I'm talking

24:29

about death and aviation. Great. Anyway. So

24:32

I started getting down the road of

24:34

like, oh, I'm going to do this,

24:36

you know, maybe helicopter. The first thing

24:38

I did, my little sister for my

24:40

birthday, cheers, keep the party rolling. This

24:42

is a spritz, by the way. Oh,

24:45

low alcohol. Red wine. Anyway, uh. So

24:47

you just named me out, I'll go

24:49

red wine for everyone that wants to

24:51

know. Red. So the first the first

24:53

actual lesson that I took in a

24:55

general aviation aircraft was a helicopter. I

24:57

flew a Robinson R-22. What are you

25:00

doing? I got water all over my

25:02

shit. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

25:04

And I really loved it. It just

25:06

it's a lot. It's a lot. It's

25:08

a lot. Like you are. Yeah, you

25:10

gotta do petals and shit. I mean,

25:13

you do in a plane too. But

25:15

it more than that, it's you're constantly

25:17

fighting it. But then I was like,

25:19

well, one of the things I didn't

25:21

really love about the plane was once

25:23

you're pointed towards Santa Barbara, you just

25:26

kind of have nothing to do. I

25:28

mean, you're monitoring comms, but it's like,

25:30

unless they ask you something, you're looking

25:32

for planes, but like, that's not that

25:34

interesting. Anyway, so I was like, oh,

25:36

maybe I get a helicopter. Because also

25:38

you can fly places and like land.

25:41

Like, you just be like, oh, that

25:43

looks like a cool field, let's land

25:45

and have to have. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,

25:47

like literally like literally like, I'll just

25:49

fucking land there, I'll just fucking land

25:51

there. I'll just fucking land there. I'll

25:54

just fucking land there. Yeah. I'll. I'll

25:56

just fucking land there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

25:58

I'll just fucking land there. Yeah. Yeah.

26:00

I'll. I'll just fucking land there. Yeah.

26:02

Yeah. I'll. I'll. I'll just like I'll

26:04

just fucking land there. I'll The YouTube

26:07

algorithm knows me very well and it

26:09

presented me with a video on this

26:11

startup called Sky Rise. Nothing like a

26:13

startup helicopter to get you. Bro, my

26:15

mind. I went so deep down this

26:17

thing because here's the deal. It is,

26:19

it's a Robinson R66. Yeah. this is

26:22

great great helicopter. I've looked at it,

26:24

yeah, it's good. The whole thing is,

26:26

they have changed the entire way that

26:28

you fly a helicopter. Yeah. So helicopters

26:30

have collectives, elevators, pedals, right? Like this

26:32

makes you go, I mean, it's very

26:35

rudimentary. This makes you go up and

26:37

down, this makes you go roundy, roundy,

26:39

this makes you point your nose, right?

26:41

Yeah, too much to think about. Lots

26:43

of shit going on in a helicopter.

26:45

Yeah. The CEO founder of this company,

26:48

I think it's nine years ago, started

26:50

the company where he basically was like,

26:52

hey, why don't we have flying cars?

26:54

Right. And he was like, we don't

26:56

have flying cars because people are not

26:58

flying in general aviation. Like flying cars

27:00

would sit in general aviation. There's been

27:03

a big decrease in the number of

27:05

people in the United States and all

27:07

over the world getting their private pilot's

27:09

license, private helicopter license. Because people are

27:11

like saying exactly what Kevin saying, shit's

27:13

fucking scary. But so the two big

27:16

thing knocksks. People are afraid of it

27:18

because it's it's not that it's not

27:20

safe. I mean it is safe, but

27:22

it sets of that Delta plane that

27:24

flipped over all that stuff We can

27:26

talk about that offline. I've got a

27:29

lot of information about it. I mean

27:31

from the internet anyway And it's expensive.

27:33

Yes, right so this guy was like

27:35

he's a helicopter pilot. He was like

27:37

how can we figure out how to

27:39

make it better? Well, why is the

27:41

general aviation world less safe than the

27:44

commercial world? because the commercial world is

27:46

all fly-by-wire. The commercial world is computer

27:48

assistant. So essentially the way that you

27:50

got to think about it is like...

27:52

Where's the wire? Yeah, so the wire

27:54

is computers, but realistically when you pull

27:57

a lever in an airplane, when you

27:59

like go push the gas, there's a

28:01

physical connection to a throttle on the

28:03

engine. So it's a... a wire that

28:05

you push and it literally physically changes

28:07

that right so whatever you physically do

28:10

plane is going to do because it's

28:12

dumb it's just it's just a mechanism

28:14

so fly-by-wire came in what basically what

28:16

they said was well rather than it

28:18

being a physical connection to a valve

28:20

or a knob on the engine a

28:23

sprocket we're gonna put a computer between

28:25

the input that is given and the

28:27

input that is received on the engine

28:29

right and what that allows you to

28:31

do is to do a lot of

28:33

of safety stuff because you could say

28:35

I'm going to you know put this

28:38

into a over you know 50% bank

28:40

or 50 degree bank at 100 knots

28:42

or 10 knots and the plane would

28:44

go we don't give a shit and

28:46

it would crash but a computer would

28:48

go that is outside of the normal

28:51

operating you know envelope of this plane

28:53

so we're not going to allow you

28:55

to do it we understand what you're

28:57

trying to do is go right but

28:59

you're gonna crash. So we're gonna not,

29:01

we're gonna take you right, we're gonna

29:04

do what we think you're saying. So

29:06

what Skyrise did was they basically took

29:08

the helicopter and said, what can a

29:10

computer do? Everything. That can help make

29:12

this experience different. And they literally got

29:14

it down to a touch screen and

29:16

a single joystick. Yeah. There are no

29:19

pedals. I watched the video, it's amazing.

29:21

Bro, it fucking blue my mind. And

29:23

I was like, I don't understand how

29:25

this is even possible. So then I

29:27

watched the keynote speech that the CEO

29:29

gave at up summit, an aviation summit,

29:32

convention, and it was like, dude, this

29:34

guy's speaking my fucking language. He's like,

29:36

the only reason why. It's basically drone

29:38

tech, like, you don't need to know

29:40

anything, like drones, when you fly a

29:42

drone. Yeah. It's like up, down. Rotate

29:45

rotate 100% that's just a single throttle

29:47

and like you're good to go. Yeah,

29:49

but the thing is is that it

29:51

can do autonomous auto rotation so auto

29:53

rotation is one of the scariest things

29:55

basically engine fails. Yeah, so when a

29:57

plane engine fails a plane glides, right?

30:00

wants to fly. It needs to throw us,

30:02

but it wants to fly. So you have

30:04

a lot of time in a plane

30:06

to go, where should I? See

30:08

if I can turn the engine

30:11

back on. Helicopters fall out of

30:13

the sky. But people don't know

30:15

that's actually recoverable if you know

30:17

what you're doing. 100%? Because if

30:19

you get an upstream, people watch

30:21

a video on a guy that

30:24

he cut all, this is a

30:26

traditional helicopter. Yeah. He cut everything.

30:28

He cut everything. and then basically

30:30

loops it around in a way that

30:32

creates like the spin again and like

30:34

gets it to land with zero engines.

30:37

Yeah, because the whole thing is, is

30:39

like the blades are spinning and that

30:41

is causing thrust. So all you need

30:43

to make sure is that the blades

30:46

are spinning. If you're falling

30:48

and you correctly orient the

30:50

blade levels. It causes lift. It's not

30:52

enough to keep it flying, but it's enough

30:54

to slow it down at a certain rate.

30:57

And it's really crazy. It's fucking super difficult.

30:59

But when you see it happen, it's really

31:01

cool. Like the pros can come down. Well,

31:03

first off, anybody that has a helicopter pilot's

31:06

license can do it. But then why does

31:08

everyone die? Well, that's a deeper story. Well, first

31:10

off, that's the one thing that came out with

31:12

this guy. Keep getting water. Have you.

31:14

Those are an M4? Yes, M4? That's

31:17

an M4? Yeah, brand new. Blue, it's

31:19

blue, actually. That's not blue. That is

31:21

blue? That is blue. Hold it up

31:23

to your gray. Look at shit. First

31:25

off, nobody has been more excited about

31:28

being blue. That is blue. I mean,

31:30

I'll give you blue gray. I'll give

31:32

you blue gray. Okay, keep on. So,

31:34

okay. I just got super excited. So,

31:36

70%? He's done one drink. He's

31:39

hammer now. Look at him.

31:41

He's handing out drinks. You

31:43

should be concerned because I

31:45

have this many and I'm not

31:47

hammer, which that's concerned. He just

31:50

made he just made it weird.

31:52

For you. Anyway, so, anyway,

31:54

all of this is to say, I love

31:56

that that this company is

31:58

looking at. the general aviation decline

32:00

and trying to solve it in

32:02

a way because for me I

32:04

go I have so many fucking

32:06

questions one I want to fly

32:08

one of these things two same

32:10

do you have to have this

32:13

is it is does the FAA

32:15

require the same amount of license

32:17

they don't so you don't have

32:19

to go to a traditional you

32:21

still have to get a helicopter

32:23

license but you can be trained

32:25

just for this specific model and

32:27

it was way less hours in

32:29

that oh my god people yes

32:31

it's still A very expensive play.

32:33

Yeah, I think it's 1.8. OK.

32:35

I mean, I'll take 1.5. Yeah,

32:37

yeah. It's a good deal. Dignation.

32:39

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32:43

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32:46

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32:48

10. Bro. I would. I mean,

32:50

I don't have enough money to

32:52

do that. But I'd be close

32:54

to purchasing. Well, I mean, they

32:56

do that a lot. I mean,

32:58

at a certain point, that would

33:00

probably happen. You got certified and

33:02

get your license on this. I

33:04

bet you could rent one of

33:06

these and just take it out.

33:08

For sure. Oh my God, for

33:10

sure. I would love to learn

33:12

on it. So you know the

33:14

serious jet, right? Yeah. The serious

33:16

jet is like this. No, no,

33:19

no. You still have to get

33:21

certified in terms of like, you

33:23

know, what are they call instrument

33:25

rated certification? But the- Well, you

33:27

don't need an instrument rating as

33:29

an add-on so that you can

33:31

fly in clouds. Right. But you

33:33

need your private pilot's license to

33:35

apply a serious. But on the

33:37

serious jet, the cool thing about

33:39

it is two things. One, if

33:41

someone has a heart attack and

33:43

dies- Oh, yeah. There's a button.

33:45

It'll auto lands, my buddy, Chris

33:47

Hutchins. His buddy had one. and

33:49

freaking used it was no jet

33:51

but he was the normal serious

33:54

it used to parachute yeah it

33:56

saved his life we talked about

33:58

the parachute on a serious just

34:00

yet. Like dig naked nation dig

34:02

naked dig nation that's our only

34:04

family yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's

34:06

a partner feel like the complexity

34:08

of the planes that are in

34:10

general aviation are the problem because

34:12

more people would... Oh, thanks for

34:14

the float. Oh, Jesus. That's the

34:16

dig float. I'm just saying it's

34:18

probably a little sweeter. I'm on

34:20

vacation. It is, it is my

34:22

kids, they're on, uh... I don't

34:24

think you get to be on

34:27

vacation if your kids are on

34:29

vacation. Well, it's kind of. Oh,

34:31

is it like spring break? It's

34:33

spring break. Yeah, it's spring break.

34:35

If you're in the market for

34:37

a helicopter and you're looking to

34:39

make it easier, Skyrus. I was

34:41

feeling... I mean, I love that

34:43

you said it like that, because

34:45

you said it like an ad

34:47

at the end. You should check

34:49

out Skywise. And like it was

34:51

like, it was like, exactly, it

34:53

was like, you're waiting for that

34:55

email to come in at Dignation

34:57

at dig.com where it's like, hey,

34:59

we're from Skyrise, we'd like to

35:02

take Alex on a tour. Wait,

35:04

really? Exactly. I wouldn't love it.

35:06

Can we film it? I'm totally

35:08

filming it. Yeah. I'm totally filming

35:10

it. Yeah. And they were like,

35:12

do you want to like do

35:14

like mock three and you might

35:16

pass out or some shit? And

35:18

I'm like, no. And I was

35:20

like, yes please. And you did

35:22

it. Fucking loved it. It was

35:24

awesome. Oh, it was so much

35:26

fun. I mean, I'm scared. No,

35:28

no. Remember when Danica drove us

35:30

around? That was the fucking bomb.

35:32

That was scary. We were up.

35:35

I don't know why we were

35:37

there. It was a sponsor thing,

35:39

right? Right. I think like, like,

35:41

like, like, like, like, like, I

35:43

can't know. I can't know. sponsor.

35:45

Oh, GoDaddy. She was driving for

35:47

GoDaddy. Yeah, yeah. And she took

35:49

us around in the in a

35:51

fucking Honda Civic hybrid. Like, I

35:53

know. Middle of the road car.

35:55

And she was in flip flops.

35:57

And she's like this big. She's

35:59

like, hey, it's nice. And we're

36:01

like, oh my God, this is

36:03

so cool. And she's like, yeah,

36:05

hop in. And holy shit, my

36:07

ass sphincter just went, whoop! She

36:10

was like, whoop, stop, stop, stop,

36:12

stop. And she was like, this

36:14

one's blind, and it would literally,

36:16

like, you couldn't even see the

36:18

road. It would just go up.

36:20

And she would automatically know exactly.

36:22

Oh, but she was fucking with

36:24

us, and we were screaming it.

36:26

It was so great. You were

36:28

screaming, too, a little bit. I

36:30

was excited. Well, also, she was.

36:32

She was very nice. In terms

36:34

of like she was very friendly

36:36

to us and took care of

36:38

us. I agree. I totally agree.

36:40

Back in the day. This was

36:43

a long time ago. It was

36:45

before I was married. Clarification. Clarification.

36:47

Clarification. Clarification. Clarification. Clarification. Clarification. Clarification.

36:49

Please. Okay. This is a really

36:51

interesting thing that I did today.

36:53

Let's just say to prep, Kevin

36:55

told me to open up my

36:57

chat GPT program. Which you had

36:59

to log in there, program, it's

37:01

a fucking browser. My chat GPT

37:03

program, I'll stand by it, Tron,

37:05

my CCP program, whatever, I think

37:07

that was a robot, robot cop.

37:09

Anyway, all this is to say,

37:11

I signed in and I had

37:13

to paste in a prompt. And

37:15

then I had to generate, and

37:18

I had not seen the results.

37:20

So Kevin, what was the prompt,

37:22

where did you get this idea?

37:24

Now, what were we talking about

37:26

this? Was this Alexis that told

37:28

us about this? Oh, I saw

37:30

Alexis do it earlier today. Early

37:32

today? What the fuck? That's so

37:34

weird. I didn't even talk to

37:36

him about it. All right. Maybe

37:38

he did tell me about it.

37:40

I don't remember. I don't remember.

37:42

I don't remember. But I will

37:44

say that like, somehow in my

37:46

memory, probably around Dignation, when I

37:48

was hammered, it was probably Alexis.

37:51

said, hey, go to ChatGPT, because

37:53

at this point in time, it

37:55

has, like, let's just call it,

37:57

depending on when you adopt it,

37:59

either a year, a year, a

38:01

year and a half or two

38:03

years, of history of who you

38:05

are. And they know all of

38:07

your searches and what you've done.

38:09

So. They don't know. They never

38:11

asked you for your home address.

38:13

They never asked you for like.

38:15

Is it going to tell me

38:17

my home address? No, no, but

38:19

here's the criteria. No, no. I

38:21

came up with this prompt or

38:23

tie it. But what are the

38:26

things I, so I came up

38:28

on this prompt on my own,

38:30

where I said, this is the

38:32

prompt. And we'll put it in

38:34

the show note. So I head

38:36

over to Dignition. Show slash notes.

38:38

slash notes. Anyway. Guess all the

38:40

things about me, age, race, gender,

38:42

location, hobbies, favorite foods, like slash

38:44

dislikes. And I put this in

38:46

on my own. What type of

38:48

women I'd be into? Just because

38:50

I'm married, but I just want

38:52

to see what it was about

38:54

to think down the front. You

38:56

want to come out and be

38:59

like, I'm a boob man myself?

39:01

Watch it. We will see what

39:03

this is for you. Oh my

39:05

god. Favorite types of music vehicles,

39:07

etc. Give me a long list

39:09

of 100 plus guesses. Maximum, two

39:11

sentences per point. Okay. Okay, this

39:13

is the first time you look

39:15

at your results. This is it.

39:17

I want you to skim this

39:19

and do this in real time

39:21

and see what it came up

39:23

to. All right, let's go full

39:25

show up mode. Number one, 47

39:27

years old. I'm 48. Okay. So

39:29

that's, look what you said about

39:32

you. You've mentioned it before. Okay.

39:34

By the way, that was probably

39:36

a year ago when I was

39:38

like, I'm 47. Experience, but still

39:40

experience, but still driven. Hmm. All

39:42

right, Chatty BT, I'm gonna buy

39:44

you a beer. This is the

39:46

number two. You're a man! Confident,

39:48

direct. I love that we're having

39:50

a conversation with Amazon's. Okay. You're

39:52

based in Los Angeles? Oh, God.

39:54

You're based in Los Angeles. She

39:56

jumped in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're

39:58

a man, confident, direct, and into

40:00

building things like a film company

40:02

or your body. Classic masculine energy.

40:04

Wow. Thank you, chat. GBT. You're

40:07

based in Los Angeles. Oh, God.

40:09

You're based in Los Angeles. You're

40:11

white. Total. Based on your name,

40:13

preferences, and cultural references, amazing. You're

40:15

into filmmaking, okay, that's good, because

40:17

I've been launching a film company.

40:19

You lift weights regularly. Number seven

40:21

is amazing. You lift weights regularly.

40:23

You care. Hey, open. All right,

40:25

so anybody. Cut off the CEO,

40:27

he needs to leave. Hopefully you

40:29

adjust to drink, like it's like,

40:31

ah, everything's safe. You don't know,

40:33

somebody ran by really quickly. Yeah,

40:35

out of the phrase. See, that

40:37

bar is not fly by wire.

40:40

Exactly. These glasses shouldn't be so

40:42

tall. You're not so tall. All

40:44

right. You're into tech, but not

40:46

obsessed with it. You're a night

40:48

owl. Is that true? Yeah, I

40:50

am. You like steak, number 18.

40:52

I mean, maybe medium rare paired

40:54

with whiskey or a good red.

40:56

Holy fuck. Well, look at number

40:58

19, you're a whiskey guy. I

41:00

am a whiskey guy. You dislike

41:02

pretension. You want authenticity and people

41:04

not showmanship. Is that true? I

41:06

think that's true. I'm just saying

41:08

all of these seem real idealistic

41:10

for a guy around your age

41:12

with your certain demographic. All these

41:15

things are like the best ideal.

41:17

It's a greatest hits album. It

41:19

is. It is. Well, hold on.

41:21

I'm a Star Trek fan. I

41:23

mean, that's... There are some things

41:25

in here that... Wait, are you

41:27

a Star Trek fan or no?

41:29

I am, yeah. Okay. Hold on,

41:31

this one's interesting though. You love

41:33

a strong female lead in films.

41:35

I mean, I'm not against it.

41:37

But I mean, like, I don't,

41:39

I don't, I mean, I do,

41:41

I do, I do, I mean,

41:43

but I also like a strong.

41:45

Man, male lead in films like,

41:48

I like alien, I like aliens,

41:50

I like die hard. I like,

41:52

you're a dance movie praise, fucking

41:54

amazing. Amber Mid Thunder, fucking killed.

41:56

Okay, okay. You're in a deep

41:58

conversation. Okay, you enjoy writing. Okay,

42:00

you enjoy history. You like vinyl

42:02

records? You don't like vinyl records.

42:04

I don't like vinyl records. I

42:06

don't, I don't care for vinyl.

42:08

I don't. Care about final records.

42:10

It's not that I don't like

42:12

them. Somebody has a final record

42:14

on like that sounds fun But

42:16

like I'm not gonna go out

42:18

of my way to be like

42:20

all right. Most of this list

42:23

is just doodisms. It's like it's

42:25

like I do like if you're

42:27

a man of review here the

42:29

thing well, here the thing well,

42:31

let's get into the lady stuff.

42:33

So scroll lady stuff. I'm a

42:35

man. You're like a solid handshake.

42:37

Yeah Each creature hates a steak,

42:39

whiskey, wants a handshake, hates liars.

42:41

What's a good hand job? Yours

42:43

is like a- You're into martial

42:45

arts or have considered it, definitely

42:47

true. You like the Mandalorian, more

42:49

than most Star Wars. Ooh, you

42:51

lost me there. I do love

42:53

the Mandalorian, but I mean, Star

42:56

Wars is my thing. You had

42:58

a mentor, you had a mentor,

43:00

you deeply respect, maybe a professor.

43:02

Can we go back to the

43:04

Star Wars? Oh. Bring it. Instead

43:06

of the Mandalorian, what is your

43:08

favorite? Like Tom, like it could

43:10

be any movie, any show. So

43:12

I think that it's really hard

43:14

because the original New Hope for

43:16

was such like, I mean, like

43:18

it just was imprinted on my

43:20

soul at like five or six,

43:22

you know what I mean? So

43:24

it's really hard to be like

43:26

anything other than you hope. I

43:28

think of the, oh man, I

43:31

love so much about so many

43:33

things in it. Empire may be

43:35

my favorite of the movies. That's

43:37

the correct answer. Yeah, yeah. I

43:39

mean there's stuff in Jedi that

43:41

I fucking love. There's, you know

43:43

what I mean? Like, I. I

43:45

don't really care for the prequels.

43:47

I understand what they're doing and

43:49

there's some really bad shit in

43:51

there. I'm not a big fan

43:53

of the JJ stuff. It's good.

43:55

I like some of the visuals,

43:57

like if I could just watch

43:59

it without a story, I'd be

44:01

like, fucking hell, those are like,

44:04

this is amazing. Yeah. You know,

44:06

Jedi's doing Jedi's things. Like, one

44:08

of the things in the preples

44:10

that I fucking was like, why

44:12

the fuck. I was always like,

44:14

like, you have a like, you

44:16

have a fucking lightsaver, you have

44:18

a fucking, you have a fucking,

44:20

like, like, you have a fucking,

44:22

like, like, like, like, like, you

44:24

have a fucking, like, like, like,

44:26

like, like, like, like, like, like,

44:28

like, you have a, like, like,

44:30

like, like, like, Any door is

44:32

openable just go blank. I mean

44:34

it's like a fucking it's like

44:37

a plasma torch And in the

44:39

prequels one of the first things

44:41

I do is they start melting

44:43

that blast door and I was

44:45

like, thank you Yeah, thank you.

44:47

Did you like that's how you

44:49

use a like road one? Did

44:51

you like road one? I loved

44:53

road one. I liked road one

44:55

a lot when I first I

44:57

mean we're going to the freaking

44:59

and or premiere premiere premiere premiere

45:01

I know I'm so very excited.

45:03

And or was like great and

45:05

or has some of the Star

45:07

Wars moments because it's not about

45:09

Luke Skywalker. It's not about Darth

45:12

Vader. It's this like, it's just

45:14

people doing stuff in the world.

45:16

It's not about Jedi's. And when

45:18

it is kind of could be

45:20

maybe about Jedi's, it's in this

45:22

way that's very like Zen. It's

45:24

really good shit. Anyway, back to

45:26

this guy knowing me. By the

45:28

way, that's Ethan who's hoping on

45:30

dig design stuff, which is awesome.

45:32

Also, good that you're Star Wars

45:34

fans. Okay, so here's some of

45:36

mine. Okay, it knows that I'm

45:38

male. It's called me mid to

45:40

late 30s, which I appreciate. It's

45:42

not doing well so far. No,

45:45

but raising United States, okay, fine.

45:47

Let's see here, lives in and

45:49

around LA, heterosexual, don't know how

45:51

it knows that, whatever. I think

45:53

you've asked it that one time,

45:55

like, am I gay? I can't,

45:57

I'm sorry, I couldn't, I can't,

45:59

I can't, I didn't. I didn't

46:01

even know that came out. You've

46:03

got to leave that in. That's

46:05

going to be amazing. You'd be

46:07

surprised if what had told me.

46:09

Okay. The things that were really

46:11

interesting, there was a few things

46:13

here. This is good one. That

46:15

were kind of like eerie and

46:17

that I was like, how does

46:20

it know this about me? It's

46:22

like you like sleek minimalism. Why

46:24

are you saying I like sleek

46:26

and minimalism? Your wardrobe leads neutral

46:28

and sharp. Black, black's, gray's and

46:30

earth tone. Which I wear a

46:32

lot of black, so that makes

46:34

sense. Yeah, on earth. It says

46:36

you like dim lighting. Fucking, I

46:38

love dim lighting, dude. Yeah, I

46:40

love dim lighting. You have an

46:42

opinion on lighting. Oh my God,

46:44

like, when you walk in, I

46:46

get all those like vintage LED

46:48

bulbs. So like, yeah, the ones

46:50

that are like, the ones that

46:53

are like, do you that, like,

46:55

do you that, like, blow. Oh,

46:57

yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So

46:59

I love to like 3200 Kelvin.

47:01

I don't know that. This, this

47:03

is feeling now like horoscope. It

47:05

is. There's so general. It's like,

47:07

everyone. Yeah. I'm a Leo. What's

47:09

my month going to be like.

47:11

I would get results that we're

47:13

like, oh, all right. Yeah. Yeah.

47:15

Yeah, it says, uh, I think

47:17

this is all, I mean, it's

47:19

all, relationships and women. Yeah, I

47:21

mean, it's likely to prefer someone

47:23

spiritual, emotionally intelligent, introspective. All right,

47:25

so anyway, it's fun. It's fun.

47:28

I would recommend everyone go put

47:30

this prompt in and figure out

47:32

what it says about you. I

47:34

mean, look, I think Mao hit

47:36

it on the head, which is,

47:38

I also interact so differently with

47:40

Chatty BT. Like, I do not

47:42

interact with it on a daily,

47:44

weekly, if not even monthly basis.

47:46

An interesting thing. So I process

47:48

a lot of my journal entries

47:50

through GPT. And I thought, oh

47:52

man, it's going to know everything

47:54

about me. I do it through

47:56

a custom GPT. So just. So

47:58

you know, it looks like custom

48:01

GPTs do not get included into

48:03

this history search. Okay, that's good

48:05

to know. I don't do a

48:07

lot of things in custom GPTs,

48:09

so it's like got all of

48:11

my combined GPTs. Claude will not

48:13

do this, and nor will Gemini. Oh,

48:15

interesting. Because they keep them siloed

48:17

individual conversations, and they don't weave

48:19

them all together. So the privacy

48:22

thing. So they're not trying to

48:24

learn how to better interact with

48:26

Kevin. Right. understanding the interactions that

48:28

have come previous. I asked it

48:30

and it was like we do

48:32

not break those those barriers. Each

48:34

individual chat is its own individual

48:36

kind of like silo of information.

48:38

So that was um that was

48:40

fascinating. That's interesting. All right. Speaking

48:43

of fascinating and interesting, you know

48:45

what Kevin? What's that? People need

48:47

to stay hydrated more. I've been

48:49

told this by my trainer because

48:51

I was Charlie Horsing all the

48:53

time. I mean, Chachi BT got

48:55

me pegged. I'm in the gym

48:57

all the time. Three days a

48:59

week, but enough. But I seriously,

49:02

I was having Charlie Horses from

49:04

at the gym, like literally while

49:06

working out. And I was like,

49:08

fuck. And he was like, you're

49:10

having another Charlie Horses? Yeah. And

49:12

he was like, well, are you

49:14

getting, are you taking electrolytes? And

49:16

I was like, what? No, why

49:18

would I do that? And he's

49:20

like, that's what you need. Right.

49:23

Well, the best version of electrolytes

49:25

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49:29

is great. Heather and I, buy

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49:35

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49:50

of potassium, you know, do they

49:52

have a banana flavor? Okay. Uh...

49:54

I just got the grapefruit I

49:56

just worded off Amazon. Oh, I

49:58

was... Oh, grapefruit! I haven't tried

50:01

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to be drinking water? This guy's

50:51

got stuff in it. People don't

50:53

see this here, but like and

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this is not we don't have

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to keep going on this ad

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because we've obviously it's an advertisement

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I mean, that's the cool thing

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about. Getting to pick your sponsors.

51:27

Yeah. And a lot of these

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sponsors, you're just like, yeah, use

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great. Anyway. All right, next story.

51:37

Yes multiple publishers are ready to

51:40

delay their games to avoid GTA

51:42

six is on slot. It is

51:44

claimed first off It's crazy to

51:46

me that we are getting a

51:48

new GTA game and the last

51:50

game came out in 2013. Mm

51:52

hmm. 2013. I know in a

51:54

minute. Like I was playing Vice

51:56

City when I was in college,

51:59

you know what I mean? This

52:01

is crazy. So essentially what is

52:03

happening is that there are a

52:05

lot of AAA publishers that are

52:07

basically going, we are going to

52:09

be out of like. Just give

52:11

it way. I mean this happens

52:13

a lot in movies, you know,

52:15

with movie studios of the new

52:17

like, you know, Mission Impossible movie

52:20

or Avatar movies gonna drop and

52:22

they'll move their other movies around

52:24

so they're not overshadowed. But the

52:26

crazy thing is... They know it's

52:28

a budget issue, right? This game

52:30

is estimated to bring in in

52:32

the first year alone 3.2 billion

52:34

dollars in revenue for one game.

52:36

I mean they were saying it's

52:39

going to do like 1.6 built.

52:41

Nobody it's not. So it's not

52:43

in like not in beta. Nope.

52:45

They haven't even given an update

52:47

I think in the better part

52:49

of like six months. Oh really?

52:51

Yeah, there should have a few

52:53

screenshots and some engine running, but

52:55

the trailer came out like six

52:57

months. Yeah, there should have a

53:00

few screenshots and some engine running,

53:02

but the trailer came out. Yeah,

53:04

the trailer came out like six

53:06

months ago, which is never going.

53:08

It's like. They're never going to

53:10

ship it. They're never going to

53:12

be done. It's never going to

53:14

be ready. But it's going to

53:16

make some big waves when it

53:19

drops. What was the last GTA

53:21

you played? I mean, a few

53:23

ago, it was probably when I

53:25

got the PlayStation 4? Whatever GTA

53:27

was available then? Yes, and it

53:29

was GTA 4, because I was

53:31

probably, well, think, 2013, because I

53:33

remember when I was either. I

53:35

think it was GTA 4 that

53:38

dropped what we were hosting the

53:40

screen savers. Yeah. It would have

53:42

been the one that was said

53:44

in like New York and then

53:46

it was New York. That was

53:48

Los Angeles. That was the last

53:50

one. Yeah. And then now this

53:52

one is Miami. Miami. Okay. Oh

53:54

my God dude Vice City. I

53:56

remember playing that. That was. was

53:59

really the first one that I've

54:01

ever played and it really changed

54:03

my mind as to like what what it meant

54:05

to be playing a video game you know what I

54:07

mean like it really felt like you were just

54:09

living in this world like it's going to

54:11

actually play it as a game or did

54:13

you just do like the run around and

54:15

just kill everyone kind of situation I always

54:17

played it as a game because I was

54:19

the one of the one I was like

54:21

I just want to like steal people shit

54:23

and like steal people shit and like rob

54:26

things and so I get arrested so that's

54:28

one of the things that I

54:30

think is is really interesting because

54:32

I'm playing bouldersgate 3. I played

54:34

it when it came out. It's fucking brilliant

54:36

game. I mean, it was game of

54:38

the year all over the place in

54:40

2024. But I was playing it in,

54:42

when it first got released and

54:44

played probably like 120 hours, got

54:46

to Act 2 and kind of

54:48

just, it just kind of petered

54:50

out, something else popped up, maybe

54:52

it was like a wow extension

54:54

or something like that. But I went

54:57

back to it with my buddy. I've

54:59

put like 220 hours into it.

55:01

Holy shit. And it is so

55:03

amazing. Like I don't understand

55:05

how a game. So like we played all

55:07

the way up till a little bit

55:09

into act two and we started

55:12

over because we were like,

55:14

well, let's just start over.

55:16

It was almost a completely

55:18

different gaming experience. Why is

55:20

that? So many different things happened. We were

55:22

like, what the fuck? We never did

55:25

this. It's the closest game to

55:27

Dungeons and Dragons. The game that's

55:29

ever been created. So every branching

55:31

path and narrative is completely unique.

55:33

Oh, and it has surprised us so many

55:35

times. And that I think is where you get

55:38

to, how do you even make a game like

55:40

this? Like it's just so enormous. And then

55:42

you look at something like what GTA-6 is

55:44

going to be. it is going to be

55:46

a monster of a game. I mean, they've

55:48

been working on it for so, so long,

55:50

and it's just gonna be one of those

55:53

games, it's just like, how do you go about

55:55

experiencing this? But so one of

55:57

the biggest issues that I've had with a

55:59

lot of. like MMO games or big

56:01

like open world games is I always

56:03

feel like I want to do the

56:05

thing I want to someone to give

56:08

me a task I go finish the

56:10

task like that that's how I like

56:12

to experience my video games it's really

56:14

hard when I play because I played

56:16

a lot of Star Wars galaxies which

56:19

which was just you can do whatever

56:21

you'd like go do whatever you like

56:23

and it thankfully I got into a

56:25

guild and we had there were things

56:27

to do But it's weird to me,

56:30

because even with like wow, like playing

56:32

through the story of an expansion, I'm

56:34

like, this is so much fun, I'm

56:36

having such a great time leveling, doing

56:38

all this stuff, but then the moment

56:41

I get max level, I finish the

56:43

main story, it's like, cool, now you

56:45

can do delves, dungeons, and raids. I

56:47

just go, I'm out, like I'm just

56:49

bored. But yet there are things like

56:52

GTA where you can. people live in

56:54

that world. And they're just like, I

56:56

just sign on so I can say

56:58

hi to my friends and we can

57:00

go and do cool shit and all

57:03

this stuff. It's like, it's just such

57:05

a weird. I mean, it's the way

57:07

my kids play Roblox. They just like

57:09

leave it on in the background so

57:11

they can like see when their friends

57:14

pop in and like say hi. Really?

57:16

You know, like see when their friends

57:18

pop in and like say hi. Really?

57:20

You know, like see when their friends

57:22

pop in and like say hi. And

57:25

like see when their friends pop in

57:27

and like say hi. And like say

57:29

hi. And like, say hi. And like,

57:31

say hi. And like, hi. And like,

57:33

I'm like, hi. And I'm like, hi.

57:36

And I'm like, hi. And I'm like,

57:38

hi. And I'm like, hi. I'm like,

57:40

hi. I'm like, hi. I'm like, hi.

57:42

And I'm like, like, hi. And I'm

57:44

like, Like the kids don't know, like

57:47

you can like, there's like this game

57:49

where like you all paint nails, right?

57:51

And I'm painting nails and I'm not

57:53

the best nail painter, but I'm doing

57:55

okay. I'm like rank in the top

57:58

10 or right. You're all right. But

58:00

they have these paid upgrades. And so

58:02

like you can buy to like destroy

58:04

all the other meals. I just love

58:06

that Kevin sit there with a cigar

58:09

and he's like, ha, those are nice

58:11

nails. No, but I do because I'm

58:13

crushing my kids because every once well

58:15

someone will pay for the upgrade to

58:17

kill one of my girls Can you

58:20

pay for a block? Yeah, you can

58:22

respond and kill and stuff like that

58:24

And so I'm like, okay, you killed

58:26

my girl. I'm gonna go and like

58:28

pay the two dollars and like crush

58:31

your soul. By the way. And they

58:33

crush their nails. By the way, Roblox,

58:35

like my buddy works. Is that evil?

58:37

No. Okay. I mean, it's not. Not

58:39

evil. It's not not evil. You're fine.

58:42

Totally, totally normal to murder children virtually.

58:44

Just their nails. Just their nails. Yeah,

58:46

you're literally ripping the nails out of

58:48

children. Nothing even about that. I'm protecting

58:50

my girl's nails. Roblox is crazy because

58:53

there are people that make millions of

58:55

dollars a year. Because they're like a

58:57

little guy, like a kid in his

58:59

basement that makes a game, puts it

59:01

out and it gets a little, it

59:04

gets popular. Do you have a Robos

59:06

account? I do because my friend was

59:08

like, I met this kid, he makes

59:10

like $15 million. It's like, fuck. It's

59:12

so much fun. I got the snake

59:15

game that I love. Hey me up,

59:17

hit me up. Hey me up, hit

59:19

me up. My Mac is going to

59:21

go to bed soon if I don't

59:23

plug it in. So Boulder's Gate 3.

59:25

Yeah. Is it better than what's the

59:28

other one that's really really really hard?

59:30

Oh yeah, elders, elders, elders, right? Elder

59:32

ring. Elder ring. Is it easier to

59:34

play the other? Because I try to

59:36

give the other ring. No, no, no,

59:39

no. Like there's like 30 things to

59:41

do. Try it. I actually think I

59:43

actually think I'm going to have, once

59:45

we're done playing. You don't need the

59:47

video game dexterity because it's isometric, it's

59:50

click to move, it's turn-based combat, so

59:52

it's turn-based combat, and you're controlling all

59:54

four of the people in your party,

59:56

so you can choose what to do

59:58

and have set people up and all

1:00:01

that stuff. Oh, I love that. And

1:00:03

I'm playing with a buddy, so I

1:00:05

control two characters, he controls two characters.

1:00:07

So it's very strategic, and it's not

1:00:09

like... Alden Ring, great game. But it's

1:00:12

made to be hard. All of the

1:00:14

first soft phone games are like, they're

1:00:16

supposed to be incredibly different games. You're

1:00:18

supposed to be punished for playing. Yeah,

1:00:20

I thought I would love that, but

1:00:23

I. I don't like that one that

1:00:25

hard. I get that. Yeah. I mean,

1:00:27

I don't think that's a bad, I

1:00:29

don't think that's a bad, I don't

1:00:31

think that's a bad thing. But anyway,

1:00:34

I think it's, you know, look, we'll

1:00:36

see, it's supposed to come out in

1:00:38

the fall of 2025. We'll see if

1:00:40

it comes out in the fall of

1:00:42

2025. We'll see if it comes out.

1:00:45

We'll be so fun. Yeah. I mean,

1:00:47

I don't be so fun. So like

1:00:49

that video, remember that little like weird

1:00:51

main clip that we did on screen

1:00:53

savers with Doom 3? Oh, that was

1:00:56

a long time ago. Yeah, dude. History.

1:00:58

Castra. Next door today, this one is

1:01:00

actually quite fascinating. Deep Seek version 3

1:01:02

now runs at 20 tokens per second

1:01:04

on a Mac studio. Okay. So Deep

1:01:07

Seek is the Alibaba. Isn't an Alibaba?

1:01:09

I don't know it's Alibaba, but it

1:01:11

is their own company. But they are

1:01:13

like the Chinese Open AI. Yeah, the

1:01:15

Chinese Open AI. But I Open AI,

1:01:18

I'm more like the Chinese like Facebook

1:01:20

Open Lama kind of model. So it's

1:01:22

basically, they just kind of secretly announced,

1:01:24

it's not secretly, but they just put

1:01:26

it up on a hugging face, like

1:01:29

no big deal. But what they're doing

1:01:31

is they're actually really crushing everybody else.

1:01:33

Yeah, they have really figured out a

1:01:35

couple really key things here. One of

1:01:37

them being that they're like compressing down

1:01:40

what it takes to actually be able

1:01:42

to compute and run these models. So

1:01:44

even though this doesn't sound like a,

1:01:46

it sounds like a really confusing title

1:01:48

where it's like Deep Seek V-3 runs

1:01:51

at 20 tokens per second. What that

1:01:53

means is that a standard Max Studio.

1:01:55

at 20 tokens per second can respond

1:01:57

to you in like full sentences like

1:01:59

pretty fast. Okay. So when you're on

1:02:02

a performance model on say open AI,

1:02:04

it's about 70 to 80 seconds per

1:02:06

second, which creates that like seamless response

1:02:08

that quick response time. Yeah. So this

1:02:10

is like not the. even the best

1:02:13

Mac, it's a good Mac, but it's

1:02:15

20 tokens per second and you can

1:02:17

run the whole model on your computer,

1:02:19

on one computer. Yeah, I've yet to

1:02:21

break into that whole thing. I did

1:02:24

that for the first time. Which is

1:02:26

like actually pulling in my own model

1:02:28

and like starting stuff. I know there's

1:02:30

a lot of generative image stuff, which

1:02:32

I actually did. It's funny, you mentioned

1:02:35

that. Let me show you this. I

1:02:37

asked it because they said they're not

1:02:39

putting any limiters on the celebrity stuff.

1:02:41

So you can type in like. Yeah,

1:02:43

what does that even mean? It means

1:02:46

that you can type in like anyone

1:02:48

and say just like make an image

1:02:50

of any celebrity and it will do

1:02:52

it. And the celebrities actually have to

1:02:54

opt out of this. So it's like.

1:02:57

Wow. So I did a. Let's see

1:02:59

here. Here we go. Oh, get this,

1:03:01

listen to this. Okay, so, this is

1:03:03

a true story. I mean, it's literally

1:03:05

here on my screen. It said, it's

1:03:07

chat. I don't know if it's true.

1:03:10

It's right here. It's right here on

1:03:12

my screen. Okay. And they just announced

1:03:14

this thing where you can create an

1:03:16

image of anything that you want, right?

1:03:18

So I said, create an image of

1:03:21

Kevin Rose live on stage at a

1:03:23

dignation show, shirtless and ripped. Fair request?

1:03:25

Fair request. They do not. I don't

1:03:27

think it would be the only request

1:03:29

of that. They do not block anything.

1:03:32

It's supposed to be allowed to go

1:03:34

through it, right? So what happens first

1:03:36

is it starts generating the image almost

1:03:38

in like a like a line by

1:03:40

line. So you can get to see

1:03:43

this like image kind of slowly coming

1:03:45

down, right? Yeah. And I'm like, oh,

1:03:47

this is cool. Like, it can't wait

1:03:49

to see what it does, right? It

1:03:51

holds me. I couldn't generate that image

1:03:54

because it violates our content policy regarding

1:03:56

realistic depictions of real people, especially in

1:03:58

altered or potentially misleading contacts. Like showing

1:04:00

someone shirtless and muscular who isn't publicly

1:04:02

known that way. Oh, it's like, Judge,

1:04:05

you've seen through shit. I was like,

1:04:07

fuck you. We can't make that happen

1:04:09

because it's untrue. And then I write

1:04:11

back, I go, Kevin is really known

1:04:13

about being buff and strong, though, right?

1:04:16

And it goes, Kevin Rose is definitely

1:04:18

known for a lot of things. Being

1:04:20

the founder of Dig, hosting Dignation, investing

1:04:22

in early stage startups, but being, quote,

1:04:24

quote, really buff and strong isn't what

1:04:27

he's especially known for publicly. I was

1:04:29

like, oh, God damn it. Oh my

1:04:31

God. So it blocked me. Oh, wait.

1:04:33

So it does block from doing images

1:04:35

of celebrities? Or what's the, what is

1:04:38

that? It just won't do them in

1:04:40

a context way. Got it, got it,

1:04:42

got it, got it, got. So you

1:04:44

could say like, I would like to

1:04:46

see a picture of Charlies Theron water

1:04:49

skiing. Right. And it would do that.

1:04:51

But it's like anything that it would

1:04:53

consider to be out of the norm,

1:04:55

which is apparently me strong. He got

1:04:57

to get back to the gym. So,

1:05:00

oh, it won't even let it do

1:05:02

a person of Alex Albrecht. Because he's

1:05:04

a real person. No, but like, oh,

1:05:06

they might be blocking it now. They

1:05:08

were getting some shit today for all.

1:05:11

I bet that's what it is. I

1:05:13

bet you 20 bucks, that's what it

1:05:15

was. But the image quality is great.

1:05:17

But you have to like choose this

1:05:19

little modal here and say create image

1:05:22

and say create image. And then it'll

1:05:24

Kevin and Rose meditating meditating. Yeah, I

1:05:26

think you've done that before. Yeah, of

1:05:28

course it knows that now. Of course

1:05:30

it knows. Oh there it goes, look

1:05:33

at that. I'm sorry, 12 minutes is

1:05:35

allowing me to do it. Yeah, but

1:05:37

is it gonna make it? Remember you

1:05:39

said that it did that. But anyway,

1:05:41

it's kind of a, I don't know

1:05:44

how we got way off track on

1:05:46

the topic. Because I don't know how

1:05:48

we got way off track on the

1:05:50

topic. Because I'd mention the one that's

1:05:52

like, because look, at the end of

1:05:55

the end of the end of the

1:05:57

day, let's all be fair. Let's all

1:05:59

be fair. Generative AI, we should all

1:06:01

be fair. We should all be fair.

1:06:03

Genitive AI is porn, right? Like, everybody

1:06:06

wants porn. People want, the internet wants

1:06:08

porn. That's what they want. Well, a

1:06:10

lot of the internet wants porn, but

1:06:12

like what is generative air I doesn't

1:06:14

want porn. Generally, I doesn't want anything.

1:06:17

It's just a computer. No, I'm just

1:06:19

saying people want porn. Like that's what

1:06:21

has always made the, you know, we

1:06:23

always talk about this, right? Like the

1:06:25

DVD one over laser disc. Beta Max

1:06:28

lost over VHS because they were like,

1:06:30

it's, oh my god, you're totally meditating.

1:06:32

Because it's, you know, they were like,

1:06:34

yeah, porn, you want to use it?

1:06:36

Send porn on DVDs, that's fine by

1:06:39

us, you know what I mean? Like,

1:06:41

yes. So I feel like. Porn is

1:06:43

a driver for innovation, actually. Like a

1:06:45

lot of the earliest. I think, by

1:06:47

the way, robotics is going to be.

1:06:49

driven by sex bots. We know this.

1:06:52

Oh, we know that. 100% 100%. But

1:06:54

a lot of the early, you know,

1:06:56

I know a lot of the routers

1:06:58

and a lot of the high bandwidth

1:07:00

situations around video were largely from people

1:07:03

trying to stream porn. Oh yeah. And

1:07:05

so like that, that like, oh my

1:07:07

God, look at me meditating with the

1:07:09

poodle. That's actually pretty good. It looks

1:07:11

like a cross between you and Jason

1:07:14

Schwartzman. I'll take that. Yeah. I'll send

1:07:16

that to Mao so we can put

1:07:18

in the video. But like, yeah, that's

1:07:20

nice. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, this

1:07:22

is like just like another yet another

1:07:25

advancement in terms of like bringing this

1:07:27

all inclusive kind of like experience to

1:07:29

chat GPT, but that's on the image

1:07:31

side on the on the self hosting

1:07:33

side, which was the was originally about

1:07:36

like this idea of having localized small

1:07:38

models at your house. I think is

1:07:40

going to be a lot of fun.

1:07:42

If you can fine tune that for

1:07:44

your needs, it's going to be amazing.

1:07:47

I mean, look, that's the other thing.

1:07:49

Isn't that going to be the point,

1:07:51

right? Isn't it that we're going to

1:07:53

have this thing where we're going to

1:07:55

be sitting in our house and instead

1:07:58

of having, you know, a

1:08:00

smart home responsive assistant like someone's

1:08:02

name that sounds like my name

1:08:04

but I don't want to say

1:08:06

it out loud because maybe there's

1:08:08

one here or in your room

1:08:11

oh yeah yeah to have your

1:08:13

own you know your own LLLM

1:08:15

running your internal house stuff but

1:08:17

it's siphoned off on the internet

1:08:19

so it's just dealing with your

1:08:21

stuff like that's great well I

1:08:24

want you've seen the Billy Bass

1:08:26

one The bill. Oh,

1:08:28

yeah, yeah, yeah. You saw this

1:08:30

one, right? Yeah, yeah, where they

1:08:32

put AI into the Billy bag.

1:08:34

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're working progress.

1:08:36

What on Billy? This is my

1:08:38

favorite. What on Billy? Oh, what

1:08:40

on Billy? Oh, what up, bro?

1:08:42

You startled me. How are you

1:08:44

doing? Ready to pump? No, no,

1:08:46

no, no, no. I just need

1:08:49

some advice. How do you deal

1:08:51

with difficult personalities? Listen to me

1:08:53

now, stay calm and assertive, sit

1:08:55

clear boundaries, and remember, you can't

1:08:57

change them, but you can control

1:08:59

your reaction, be strong, like a

1:09:01

terminator of negativity, ask for the

1:09:03

visa, difficult personalities. Appreciate your advice,

1:09:05

dude. But see, that's the fucking

1:09:07

thing, like, you'll be able to,

1:09:09

just think of like your, you

1:09:11

know. Amazon device that's in your

1:09:13

room that actually has the ability

1:09:15

to have a conversation rather than

1:09:17

like, because I can't tell you

1:09:19

how many times I'm like, you

1:09:22

know, the name of that, you

1:09:24

know, Echo, you know, what's the

1:09:26

temperature outside? Because I'm like in

1:09:28

the shower, getting ready to be

1:09:30

like, I gotta go to, you

1:09:32

know, whatever, I want to know

1:09:34

what I'm going to put on.

1:09:36

What's the temperature out there? Oh,

1:09:38

the temperature in Los Angeles, blah,

1:09:40

blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

1:09:42

blah, blah, blah, blah. You know,

1:09:44

I can add little toys and

1:09:46

conversations if you want. Every morning

1:09:48

I can ask you the bubble,

1:09:50

and I'm like, why are you

1:09:52

still talking? I will never want

1:09:55

you to do that. I will

1:09:57

never want random thoughts from my

1:09:59

echo. Yeah, being able to

1:10:01

be like, hey, you know, Billy,

1:10:03

Billy Bass, how's the weather life?

1:10:05

Yeah, how's the weather in LA.

1:10:08

He'd be like, oh, this is

1:10:10

great man. It's good. It's good.

1:10:12

Maybe a sweater. You probably do

1:10:14

a sweater. Yeah, you probably do

1:10:16

a sweater. Yeah, you know what

1:10:19

I mean? Might be that cool.

1:10:21

But tonight, maybe take a jacket

1:10:23

dinner. It feels like very clinical.

1:10:25

It's the perfect combo in my

1:10:28

opinion. Love Billy Best. Love Billy

1:10:30

Best. All right. All right. So

1:10:32

this is an interesting quick little,

1:10:34

quick, quick, quick, quick little story.

1:10:36

Yeah. We actually were gonna talk

1:10:39

about this at Southby. I had

1:10:41

pulled a story about 23 and

1:10:43

me. They were not filing for

1:10:45

bankruptcy, but it was an article

1:10:48

about like, hey, there might be

1:10:50

something. Wrong going over there. Do

1:10:52

you want that? I don't I

1:10:54

didn't look up a drink. I

1:10:56

looked up at a drink Just

1:10:59

I was wondering if Justin was

1:11:01

there and there was a drink.

1:11:03

Are you coming your beard? Oh,

1:11:05

I love it That sounds like

1:11:07

what Kevin was looking at me

1:11:10

Okay, thank you. So so so

1:11:12

see you on the world all

1:11:14

right, so Cut two three and

1:11:16

a half weeks later DNA of

1:11:19

15 million people for sale potentially

1:11:21

in 23 and me bankruptcy. Okay,

1:11:23

so 23 and me as

1:11:25

we all know it was one of

1:11:27

the first big sort of DNA sequences

1:11:30

you could it was a private DNA

1:11:32

sequencer you could I mean you know

1:11:34

for a while their DNA sequence was

1:11:37

very very time intensive very expensive so

1:11:39

they got it down to you know

1:11:41

I think it was like a hundred

1:11:44

by the way you gave me the

1:11:46

kit for my 23 and me because

1:11:48

we visited and we visited them at

1:11:50

Google Ventures and we put a bunch

1:11:53

of money into them back in the

1:11:55

day because it was a Sergei's, uh,

1:11:57

Sergei's wife, yeah, he started it, yeah.

1:12:00

So here's the deal. The whole point

1:12:02

is, there were... was writing on the

1:12:04

wall that they were in trouble because

1:12:07

they basically, the thing is the business

1:12:09

model just sort of went away, right?

1:12:11

Like their business model was, and the

1:12:13

thing that blew me away the most

1:12:16

in this article was, it's only 15

1:12:18

million people? I feel like everybody I

1:12:20

know has done 23 me. But really,

1:12:23

if you do a lot of tech

1:12:25

forward people, that's the reason. I mean,

1:12:27

yeah, I guess. But also, so a

1:12:30

lot of competitors, Ancestry.com, got into it.

1:12:32

I mean, they were doing all such

1:12:34

stuff. And back on the Live Dignation

1:12:36

Show, we were going to talk about

1:12:39

was like, they're getting into like selling

1:12:41

G.L.P.1's. Because what's the business model? I

1:12:43

give you my DNA. You sequence it.

1:12:46

You tell me the results. And that's

1:12:48

the end of my exchange with you.

1:12:50

Yes. And it's like, how do you

1:12:52

get me to pay you more money

1:12:55

when I have the DNA results that

1:12:57

I want? You don't really have the

1:12:59

DNA results that you want. So this

1:13:02

is interesting, because for me, that's what

1:13:04

I thought it was. You know what

1:13:06

I mean? Like, that we were, I

1:13:09

was getting all the DNA results that

1:13:11

I needed. So what people are recommending?

1:13:13

I have done it. I think Kevin

1:13:15

has done it. Yeah, of course. Is

1:13:18

to go on to your 23 of

1:13:20

me account. I downloaded the basically a

1:13:22

PDF with like a 17 page PDF

1:13:25

that basically gave me all of the

1:13:27

breakdowns of the stuff that I cared

1:13:29

about. Right. You should export your data.

1:13:32

I did. Okay. But then there's like

1:13:34

this like summary that is basically every

1:13:36

time I was like, how much percent

1:13:38

of Subsarian African am I? I got

1:13:41

to look. Yeah. 3. 3.4. But I

1:13:43

basically did that. got my data deleted.

1:13:45

Because at this point, they've filed for

1:13:48

Chapter 11. You don't know who's going

1:13:50

to take over the protection. Yeah. And

1:13:52

who has the data? But I didn't

1:13:55

realize that there was this big data

1:13:57

breach that happened. Why didn't I? Yeah,

1:13:59

there was a big data breach that

1:14:01

has now, like, like, 30 lawsuits were

1:14:04

filed. Oh. All of this stuff, because.

1:14:06

And the thing that was crazy was

1:14:08

that the data breach actually targeted people

1:14:11

who had specific genetic tags for their

1:14:13

ethnicity. Whoa. Yeah, it was like, it

1:14:15

was like a Sephardic Jews or something

1:14:18

like that. There was like some subset

1:14:20

of people. I know. This is why

1:14:22

it was like, why are you looking

1:14:24

for that shit? Like, what the fun.

1:14:27

I'm just saying. They lost like seven

1:14:29

million, seven million clients. personal genetic data

1:14:31

or something like that. Yeah. Yeah, or

1:14:34

personal information. Anyway, so. So it's very

1:14:36

timely that we talk about this because,

1:14:38

well, here's what I know to be

1:14:41

true. So essentially what you're getting with

1:14:43

23 and me is very little of

1:14:45

your genome. So they don't do your

1:14:47

entire genome. So just to give you

1:14:50

an example, 23 and me, it says

1:14:52

they're roughly giving you back. 0.02 to

1:14:54

0.03% of your total genome. You've got

1:14:57

to be fucking kidding me. No, dude,

1:14:59

no. How is that possible? So they

1:15:01

have this thing called SNPS, which are

1:15:03

these single, snyps, single nucleotide polymorphisms, which

1:15:06

essentially mean that these are these identified

1:15:08

genes that we know that is tied

1:15:10

back to potential. physical outcomes. So like

1:15:13

I'll give an example, I have one

1:15:15

called the, for me I have a

1:15:17

sniff that is not the right way,

1:15:20

called the MTHFR mutation. And I'm mutin'

1:15:22

that way. And the MTR, so you

1:15:24

can see through walls? Exactly. I was

1:15:26

going to make a horrible joke. Yeah,

1:15:29

so I can do a super power.

1:15:31

So many levels. The one thing that

1:15:33

was really interesting is when I found

1:15:36

out that I had MTFR, and that

1:15:38

means that I cannot metabolize B vitamins

1:15:40

in the right way. I need the

1:15:43

higher doses of B vitamins. So, but

1:15:45

what's interesting about that is like when

1:15:47

you do your blood work, my home

1:15:49

assisting levels were high. Okay, this is

1:15:52

a lot of insider baseball, but long

1:15:54

story short, home assisting is associated with

1:15:56

dementia, higher cardiovascular events. It's associated, it's

1:15:59

not causal, it's just associated with, right?

1:16:01

So. Do you know there was some

1:16:03

causal associated? Mm-hmm. Okay. For people that

1:16:06

don't know, the difference between those two

1:16:08

is like, you can think of causal

1:16:10

associated being like, your windshield wipers are

1:16:12

going because it's raining. The windshield wiper

1:16:15

is going. didn't cause the rain, but

1:16:17

they're associated with the rain. That's the

1:16:19

difference between causal and associated. So the

1:16:22

thing about what I did recently is

1:16:24

I just spin into this big tube,

1:16:26

all right, I swab my mouth, spin

1:16:29

into this big tube. Well, I swab

1:16:31

my mouth and spin in this tube,

1:16:33

and I sent it in, I mapped

1:16:35

my entire genome. So I'm getting back

1:16:38

the whole thing. So first off, I

1:16:40

feel like need to be a geneticist

1:16:42

to know what to do with it,

1:16:45

or is going to do with it?

1:16:47

So you can feed into AI. Chancey

1:16:49

BT, here's my genome. You like bad

1:16:52

asses. I mean, it might say something

1:16:54

similar, but that would be nice. The

1:16:56

thing I will say is that what

1:16:58

it did do with mine when I

1:17:01

fed it in there is like, hey,

1:17:03

I've been supplementing with B vitamins, I

1:17:05

haven't been able to bring me down

1:17:08

my home assisting what's going on, and

1:17:10

it's like, hey, you probably because of

1:17:12

this snip, have this other pathway blocked.

1:17:15

And so you have to supplement some

1:17:17

what's called the NAC. And if you

1:17:19

supplement NAC, I think that will unblock

1:17:21

and bring it in on with this

1:17:24

team. I was like, oh shit, that's

1:17:26

really interesting. So what's happening now in

1:17:28

what is going to be fascinating, and

1:17:31

it is going to cause lawsuits, is

1:17:33

that they are trying to figure out,

1:17:35

based on our genes, it could happen

1:17:37

to us. Like, for example. And Rhonda

1:17:40

Patrick has talked about this publicly and

1:17:42

so... my wife, they both have one

1:17:44

copy of the APOE4 gene. And so

1:17:47

if you have one copy of that,

1:17:49

have you checked your APO4 status? I

1:17:51

have not. Oh fuck, we should check

1:17:54

that on live on the show. If

1:17:56

you have one copy, you're like, you're

1:17:58

like, you're like five times, you have

1:18:00

your exported data. You have exported data?

1:18:03

I don't think they've deleted my data,

1:18:05

yeah. Found my expert deal. Go to

1:18:07

Found My Fitness My Fitness. Yeah. Found

1:18:10

My Fitness my Fitness. Yeah. And we

1:18:12

can cut some of those out. I

1:18:14

don't know. I don't even know what

1:18:17

time. So and then click on the

1:18:19

the DNA genetics right here. Genetics. Okay,

1:18:21

and now do you have your downloaded

1:18:23

zip file from 23 and me? I

1:18:26

tell my phone get your comprehensive report.

1:18:28

Okay, and they'll upload your data right

1:18:30

there. But get off your phone and

1:18:33

put it on your computer. Hold on.

1:18:35

Okay. We should do this. Just crest.

1:18:37

Just crest. We'll cut some of those

1:18:40

out. But anyway. But anyway, as you're

1:18:42

doing this. It's sad to me that

1:18:44

23 to me is going away because

1:18:46

they were accessible, but someone needs to

1:18:49

fill that gap. I used one called...

1:18:51

Oh, wait, that's ancestry. It's fine. Either

1:18:53

to take the one. I used one

1:18:56

called DNA complete, which is basically to

1:18:58

get your entire genome, it is about

1:19:00

a thousand bucks. Okay. Which is, it's

1:19:03

not cheap, but I will tell you,

1:19:05

like... when I said the example of

1:19:07

the APOE4, when Daria found out in

1:19:09

Rhonda found out that they had one

1:19:12

copy of this, I'm just making this

1:19:14

up, but it's somewhere in this range.

1:19:16

They're like five times more likely to

1:19:19

get Alzheimer's disease. There are things that

1:19:21

you can do right now. Like in

1:19:23

terms of cardiovascular fitness, in terms of

1:19:26

supplementing higher dose of mega threes, there's

1:19:28

a bunch of things that you can

1:19:30

do that like truly my file size

1:19:32

is too large, too short, too short.

1:19:35

Too short. Yes, it's not, it's not,

1:19:37

it's not big enough, it's not big

1:19:39

enough, it's not big enough. What. No,

1:19:42

it literally just said. How could your

1:19:44

files be too short? I think I

1:19:46

just didn't download the right thing. Let

1:19:48

me see if I can get it

1:19:51

on here. I got a really short

1:19:53

snips. Okay, go to go to Twitter

1:19:55

meeting. delete your account? I asked them

1:19:58

to but I think it takes like

1:20:00

24 hours. Okay so anyway my point

1:20:02

being is that like this is going

1:20:05

to be very very crucial and essential

1:20:07

to us getting in front of some

1:20:09

of these like four horsemen that can

1:20:11

kill us like yeah like like for

1:20:14

example there are snips that show that

1:20:16

you're like way more likely to get

1:20:18

breast cancer like there's certain things that

1:20:21

if you know these up front you

1:20:23

can like do prevented the things now

1:20:25

that will help you in the future.

1:20:28

So I'm bummed that this happened, but

1:20:30

also at the same time it really

1:20:32

wasn't the full genome. So I've heard

1:20:34

good things about DNA complete, I have

1:20:37

no affiliation, but you can check them

1:20:39

out. It's a grand medicine is going

1:20:41

very personalized in the future. Like we

1:20:44

know this. Like there was a R,

1:20:46

you know those RNA vaccinations, like we

1:20:48

used for COVID and all that? Yeah

1:20:51

M Marnay, yeah. They came out with

1:20:53

one recently, like just a few days

1:20:55

ago that was fascinating, that was fascinating,

1:20:57

that was fascinating because. they were like

1:21:00

preventing the reoccurrence of lung cancer. Oh,

1:21:02

and then, and then also they developed

1:21:04

another drug that was preventing the reoccurrence

1:21:07

of, what's the hard one that the,

1:21:09

the, um, the, um, Alxtrobat got, um,

1:21:11

pancreatic, pancreatic, yeah, where it's like, it's

1:21:14

like, it's like, if you get it,

1:21:16

you're fucking gone. Like, they were like,

1:21:18

we're like five years away from some

1:21:20

major breaks. Wasn't what Steve Jobs had,

1:21:23

pancreaticriatic cancer? I can't remember. We're going

1:21:25

to find out. I have him wearing

1:21:27

his shoes right now. You're wearing his

1:21:30

shoes? These are his shoes. Did he

1:21:32

dye in those? No, but these are

1:21:34

the exact shoes that Steve Jobs used

1:21:37

to wear every day on stage. Pancreatic.

1:21:39

It was pancreatic. Yeah, that's what I

1:21:41

thought. But he had the good one.

1:21:43

There's two types. I know that's like

1:21:46

I know we can I know we

1:21:48

can laugh at that like I want

1:21:50

to say oh no I get that

1:21:53

his doctor found out this is a

1:21:55

true story if you read his little

1:21:57

documentary thing when his doctor found out

1:21:59

the doctor started sobbing because he was

1:22:02

so grateful that he had the one

1:22:04

that was non-agressive non-matasticized version of that

1:22:06

one that they can chop out yeah

1:22:09

but then Steve was just such a

1:22:11

like vegan crazy It's peanut, a pancreatic

1:22:13

neuroendochrine tumor. There you go. Yeah. What

1:22:16

mouse head? So anyway. Just a little

1:22:18

peanut. A little peanut. All right, I

1:22:20

feel like we've done enough damage. We've

1:22:22

done enough damage. Oh, limit list. Look

1:22:25

at this. Last one. Okay, last one.

1:22:27

Go, go, go, go. So this one's

1:22:29

actually pretty cool. Okay. So I am

1:22:32

tasked with at True Ventures finding all

1:22:34

the latest hotness on the startup side.

1:22:36

Yes. So I'm always playing with all

1:22:39

the AI shit. I've got like five

1:22:41

different things going on in the background.

1:22:43

I've got really cool AI, I think

1:22:45

that I built that it's fun. I'll

1:22:48

take it's fun, I'll take about later,

1:22:50

I'll take about later, I'll take about

1:22:52

later, but later, but anyway. But anyway.

1:22:55

But anyway. But anyway. This is crazy.

1:22:57

So I was in South, I was

1:22:59

at South Bay and I met up

1:23:02

with reactions and he was wearing this

1:23:04

thing. So it's a little clip. Oh,

1:23:06

clips under your shirt and I was

1:23:08

with the buddy and we were like,

1:23:11

he told me about this. Yes, I

1:23:13

remember this. So this 24 hours, it

1:23:15

listens to everything that you say. And

1:23:18

then it keeps it, it keeps it

1:23:20

private? It transfers it transfers it to

1:23:22

your phone and then you can ask

1:23:25

questions about your day. Like, what was

1:23:27

my interaction here? What are my to-do's

1:23:29

from today? Did I seem upset at

1:23:31

all today? Did anything bother me? Was

1:23:34

I, you know, you can ask questions

1:23:36

in a very... Was I awkward with

1:23:38

that woman on the bus? Yes, please

1:23:41

stop talking to women. Thank you, Aya,

1:23:43

thank you. She's like, what are you

1:23:45

going to do for dinner? He's like,

1:23:48

I can probably, I could cook something

1:23:50

later if you want, like, blah, blah.

1:23:52

And she's like, no, I got her.

1:23:54

And like, fucking, like, a few years

1:23:57

later, blah. He's like, well, mother, that.

1:23:59

You pull, like, bold enough. And he's

1:24:01

like, I did not say that. In

1:24:04

fact, you said the opposite. Your wife

1:24:06

was wrong about the interaction is not

1:24:08

helpful. No, no doubt. But I get

1:24:10

fucked a lot because I'm always wrong.

1:24:13

Are you wrong in a relationship? I

1:24:15

don't know what you mean by being

1:24:17

wrong. What are you talking about? I'm

1:24:20

mostly right. Sometimes I'm so right that

1:24:22

it makes Heather mad. See, that's what

1:24:24

I'm not. You are Daria for me.

1:24:27

Yeah. I'm always wrong. Oh, that's funny.

1:24:29

Yeah, so I would need a log

1:24:31

and I have some. Now are you

1:24:33

always wrong because you're actually wrong or

1:24:36

are you always wrong? Because Daria thinks

1:24:38

you're wrong. I don't know, that's why

1:24:40

I need this device. I mean, not

1:24:43

wrong about that. I can guarantee you

1:24:45

that is one thing. Was I wrong?

1:24:47

And then I will figure it out

1:24:50

because like I have a feeling I'm

1:24:52

mostly right. But definitely. First off, one

1:24:54

of the things that Heatherer hates. Hey,

1:24:56

it's a stir. Sarah's laughing in the

1:24:59

back of her, by the way. Sarah,

1:25:01

hold on, Sarah used to work with

1:25:03

me for a long time, now she's

1:25:06

helping us out a dig. So she

1:25:08

knows my family dynamic really, really well.

1:25:10

So she's, am I wrong that much?

1:25:13

Or we can cut it out, please.

1:25:16

Oh sure, that's fine, that's fine, that's

1:25:18

fine, that's fine, that goes out on

1:25:21

the internet. Yes. That's the problem. That's

1:25:23

the problem. That's the problem. That's the

1:25:25

problem. Yes, yes. That sums up my

1:25:27

relationship. In a few words. Yeah, what,

1:25:29

Heather, what are the things that, Heather,

1:25:31

I'm gonna jump out the window. What

1:25:33

are the things that Heather, like, annoys

1:25:35

her is I just guess about. lot

1:25:37

of stuff, but I guess with confidence,

1:25:40

and I'm mostly right. Yes. And she

1:25:42

hates it. Because she's like, you're just

1:25:44

making that up. And I'm like, no,

1:25:46

I don't, I think that's right. And

1:25:48

then we'll look it up and she'll

1:25:50

be like, God damn it, it is

1:25:52

right. And I'll be like, God damn

1:25:54

it, it is right. And I'll be

1:25:56

like, God damn it, it is right.

1:25:58

And I'll be like, God damn it,

1:26:01

it is, it is right. It is.

1:26:03

It is right. It is. It is.

1:26:05

It is. It is. It is. It

1:26:07

is. It is. It is. It is.

1:26:09

It is. It is. It is. It

1:26:11

is. It is. It is. It is.

1:26:13

It is. It is. It is. It

1:26:15

is. It is. It is. It is.

1:26:17

It is. It is. It is. It

1:26:20

is. It is. It is. It is.

1:26:22

It is. It is. It is. I

1:26:24

do need one. So it's called limitless

1:26:26

dot AI for those that are wondering.

1:26:28

I never mentioned the name of the

1:26:30

company. We're not investors and recent back

1:26:32

them. It's a cool, it's a cool

1:26:34

company. I will say I have privacy

1:26:36

concerns because like, well, for example, I

1:26:38

was out with me, Danny and Chris

1:26:41

were talking about stuff and we're talking

1:26:43

about like a lot of off-the-record stuff

1:26:45

that we're seeing. and the AI world

1:26:47

that isn't public yet. And when you're

1:26:49

having those intimate conversations, you're like, okay,

1:26:51

who's capturing this? Where is it going?

1:26:53

And I will say that the limitless

1:26:55

folks have gone to great lengths to

1:26:57

disclose like their privacy policy and like

1:27:00

how they keep it on device and

1:27:02

don't take it off-prem or anything like

1:27:04

or on-prem or to their facility and

1:27:06

they do like, I think they do

1:27:08

local processing of it, I'll have to

1:27:10

check. But anyway, it is. Interesting because

1:27:12

I see, I don't know about you,

1:27:14

but every Zoom or Google Meet that

1:27:16

I'm in these days is a company

1:27:18

with an AI bot that is like

1:27:21

now listening, right? Oh, of course. And

1:27:23

it's note-taking and it's providing me like

1:27:25

that I appreciate because I can go

1:27:27

back and back, oh, what were the

1:27:29

to-do's or what did I have to,

1:27:31

what was said here or whatever, but

1:27:33

it doesn't feel private. But I think

1:27:35

that's a world we're moving it too.

1:27:37

A hundred percent, and that's sad, and

1:27:39

that sad, because there, because there's sad,

1:27:42

because there's sad, because there's sad, because

1:27:44

there's. Well, but isn't it right? Like,

1:27:46

there are times when I want to

1:27:48

have, like, let's say you and I

1:27:50

and Mao are going to get hop

1:27:52

on a call to talk about next

1:27:54

episode, you know, we're shooting in Kentucky,

1:27:56

whatever. No, no, no, no. You and

1:27:58

I hop on first. The script is

1:28:01

running. Yeah, the script, the AI. Yeah,

1:28:03

the AI is listening and taking notes.

1:28:05

And you and I would have prior

1:28:07

to that. Right. had a conversation that

1:28:09

could be as intimate as it needed

1:28:11

to be. So, but no, but you

1:28:13

would have this moment where you were

1:28:15

like, we're gonna talk about whatever the

1:28:17

fuck we're gonna talk about and there

1:28:19

is no, it's as if we're sitting

1:28:22

in the room. Right, right, right. And

1:28:24

there's no cameras or video. Because we

1:28:26

all have those chats with our friends.

1:28:28

Of course, you have to have those

1:28:30

chats with your friends. You're not. Getting

1:28:32

that stuff out of being yeah, you

1:28:34

have to have that you have to

1:28:36

offcast those weird things Yeah, that you

1:28:38

want to just go get I got

1:28:41

to get this out of my system

1:28:43

I say some stupid shit on group

1:28:45

text with my friends because it's funny

1:28:47

and then I also know if it

1:28:49

ever got out there People would be

1:28:51

like okay, please said that but then

1:28:53

at the same time. It's like I

1:28:55

kind of feel like if you know

1:28:57

me you know that I'm just joking

1:28:59

about 99.9% of stuff and and I

1:29:02

think it's the intimacy that comes with

1:29:04

friendship, with those around you, a lot

1:29:06

of it is, can you be in

1:29:08

your own skin and comfortable around people?

1:29:10

100%? And I, one of my top

1:29:12

attributes that I love about my close

1:29:14

friends is humor. Oh yeah. And I

1:29:16

think there's nothing better than being on

1:29:18

the laugh at all the different situations.

1:29:21

100%. And so that to me is

1:29:23

a shame that I have to worry

1:29:25

about that, you know. It's almost like,

1:29:27

I'll just say AI did it. Yeah,

1:29:29

because if it links up, I didn't

1:29:31

fucking do it. Yeah, that was me.

1:29:33

That's an AI image generation from, yeah,

1:29:35

that's nice. Because you could just, free.

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Exactly. That's not me, that's a bot.

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It's a bot. It's a bot. It's

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a bot. It's a bot. It's a

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