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Don't get a day for
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Thursday, April 24th, goes to
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a 27-year-old Ohio man named
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Makaya Ice Winder. Now, who
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in here had to wash
2:50
dishes as part of their
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chores? Growing up, raise your
2:55
hand. I'm lying. Yeah,
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I know you're lying. All your
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kids, right? They enjoy it. He
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likes drying the dishes. You don't
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like washing. Well, Jess, when you
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didn't want to wash dishes, what
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did you tell Miss Robin? I
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don't want to wash dishes, but
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I don't want to wash dishes,
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Ma, but I will, so I
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won't get popped. Okay, did you
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ever have an argument with her
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about not wanting to watch dishes?
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Hell no. What about Maddie Logie?
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No. Neither, none of them. No. I
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don't believe that. No Logan Buckback at
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least once. Definitely didn't. Okay. I don't
3:32
believe you. Well, those are all constructive,
3:34
productive ways to deal with your kids
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when you want them to do what
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it is you want them to do
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when you want them to wash dishes.
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But even, you know, if you do
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that, some kids. Still ain't go. You
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know what I'm saying? Some kids just not
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gonna do what it is you want them
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to do. And Makaya Icewinder is one of
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those kids. See the dispute that started over
3:55
dishes into tragically. Let's go to WWY7 news
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for the report please. Nearly the first thing
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out of Makaya. Swindler's mouth on the
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phone with dispatchers and admission. I'm
4:04
not going to lie, I just
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killed my father. What do you
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mean by you killed your dad?
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We're learning what led up to
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the violent incident. Marriesville police had
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been to this house earlier in
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the day, responding to a dispute
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between Makaya and his father, 59-year-old
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Joe Swindler. A police report shows
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the issue started over a dispute
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over doing the dishes. This caused
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a verbal conflict. Hours later, another
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call to the home, from Makaya,
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who said he stabbed his father
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with a knife. The dispatcher asked
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him why. Uh, God, God, oh,
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me too. God told you to.
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Yes, yes, ma'am. Okay. I had
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orders. Kaya Swingler was in court
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this morning, where prosecutors called him
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dangerous and requested that he be
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held. Do you wish me to
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considerance? Sometimes I wonder
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if these are the effects
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of gentle parenting. Sometimes I
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wonder if we have to
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bring back beatings. Okay, I
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used to have to pick
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a switch. Nothing makes you
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understand the consequences of your
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actions like having to pick
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your own switch because you
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know the consequences of your
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actions like having to pick
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your own switch because you
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know you did something wrong.
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that you caused this on yourself.
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Jess, you said you never bucked back at Ms.
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Robin because you knew she would what? Beat my
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ass! They're talking about it. That's all I'm
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saying. Now I don't know if Whippings would
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have stopped this young man, Makaya from being
5:36
a stone cold killer, but I highly doubt
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his dad wanted to go out like this.
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Okay, Makaya said he put his dad out
5:42
of his misery. Actually, son, I just wanted
5:44
you to wash the dishes. Okay now when
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this young man Makaya says God told me
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to one of my favorite movies growing up
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was frailty you should watch it if you
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never have so I understand how that could
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be true but Makaya and to anyone
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out there listening to me Let me
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tell you something. Whenever you think God is,
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you know, telling you to do something that
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you know will cause hurt to somebody or,
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you know, end up with somebody being dead
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or end up with you in prison for
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the rest of your life, please understand that
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Satan has a kingdom too. Okay, I think
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we often forget that if we give Satan
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attention, he will give us direction. Makaya, somewhere
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along the way you gave your attention to
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Satan, you submitted your will to him and
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he told you to kill your father and
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now you charged with one kind of murder
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murder. And where are you going? Chores are
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not optional, okay? You're going to be
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cleaning, you're going to be doing food
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preparation, you're going to be doing laundry,
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washing other people's drawers, you're going to
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be doing maintenance, and you're probably going
6:41
to be doing what Kanye was doing to
6:43
his cousin until the age of 14. And
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the irony is, you might get stabbed and
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killed if you don't. Please give Makaya
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Ice Wonder, the biggest heha, the biggest
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heha. And
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it's crazy that he didn't want to
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take his dad orders to simply watch
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the dishes, but he'll listen to the
7:01
voice in his head that he said with
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God telling him to kill his dad.
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Yeah. Killing his dad took way more
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energy. What is his last name? Swinder.
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You want to play a game? Yeah. Let's
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play a game of guess what races! Okay,
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all right, Kaya. I
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swender of Ohio killed
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his father because of
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a dispute over washing
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the dishes. Just hilarious.
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Guess what? Race is!
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I wanna say white, but your
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name, Maka, ah. Mixed.
7:33
Mixed. But really black
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and white. Do we
7:38
have a mixed one?
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We just gotta play
7:43
more than the same
7:45
time. Okay, uh, DJ
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envy, Macias Winder killed
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his father over a
7:53
dispute over washing dishes.
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Guess what? Racies!
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Swipe. Well. I'm
8:00
gonna be honest with you. Oh
8:02
boy. M. He's wrong. Oh, he's
8:04
not right. I don't know if
8:06
Jess is wrong. Mm-hmm. Let me
8:08
see. Just might be half right,
8:10
because I don't know if he's,
8:12
he's, he's, he's, he's, he looks,
8:14
he looks Miami black. He black,
8:16
let me see. But he could
8:18
be mixed. Oh. Yeah, he's like,
8:20
he's like, he's a rod waiving
8:22
slipboard. Yes, he does. Yes, he's
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like, yes, he's like, yeah, definitely,
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like, oh, he's from Ohio. Ohio,
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oh, he looks, he said Ohio,
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he looked, he said Ohio, he
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said Ohio, he looked, he said
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Ohio, that's, no black, people don't,
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Ohio, but I'm like, Ohio, and
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