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Hello, I'm Amy Westerville, and
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this is this is Today we're
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bringing you the first episode of
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the new season of the of the new
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season of the Hazard N.J. by Produced by N.J.
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Spotlight News, Hazard is back for
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a new season, taking
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a dive into the toxic
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world of of P-F-A-S. A family of
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A family of thousands
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of substances, often called forever
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chemicals, because they're so
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long -lasting. is their durability
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that makes them useful for all
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sorts of products and that makes
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them a all to our
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health. products and we'll be
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back with a new episode of a threat to
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our health. Enjoy and
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we'll be back with a
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new episode of Drilled soon.
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Deep in a lab in
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South Jersey, a young in
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a lab in South Jersey, a
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young chemist and his assistant
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were conducting research. research. It
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was 1938. that year, Later that
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year, Superman would make
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his first appearance in print, and
1:02
Orson Welles would convince people
1:04
that had had landed in New
1:06
Jersey. on April 6, But on April and
1:09
his the chemist and his assistant
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weren't thinking about or Martian invasions. problem
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was problem was that their experiments
1:15
with the new gas weren't
1:17
going according to plan. plan. They
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had opened the valve of one
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of the canisters that the the gas,
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only to discover it was only to
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discover it was... gone. the canister
1:27
was too heavy to be empty. to
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be So So, they cut open the canister.
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What What they found was a
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white powder that would change the
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world in unimaginable ways. ways. This
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is Hazard in Jay. In In our first
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season, we we reported on toxic
1:49
superfund sites around the around the how
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they're impacted by climate change. This
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time around, we're taking a look at
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a different toxic threat. at a different
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toxic threat, PFOS. called
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forever chemicals. And they're in
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our toilet paper, our water,
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our air, and even our
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blood. I'm Jordan Gaspore, an
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investigative journalist from Texas. I
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promised Michael, the show's producer, that
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I wouldn't talk about Texas or
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horror movies. But I would be
2:27
remiss if I didn't mention the
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1973 cult classic, The Crazy's. The
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movies about a small town that
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accidentally has their water supply infected
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with a virus that causes the
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town's people to become homicidal. We
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never thought it would happen. Nobody
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gets in or out of that
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town now, is that clear? The
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girl just died. How do you
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intend to let the people know
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about all this? At least in
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that case, it was pretty obvious
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who had chugged a big glass
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of chemicals. With Pefos, that's a
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little bit harder. Okay, Michael, I
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got the fictional horror talk out
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of my system. Now, let's talk
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about real horror. They say nothing
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lasts forever, except maybe diamonds and
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Pefos. So, what are Pefos? Well,
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Pefos is short for, bear with
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me, per and polyfluorocal substances.
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There are a class of thousands
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of chemicals that have been linked
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to numerous health risks. There
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are hundreds of studies, and I
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have documented the numerous different health
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effects that exposure to these
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chemicals are associated with. That's Tasha
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Stuyber. She's a senior scientist with
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the Environmental Working Group. They're
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a nonprofit that conducts research on
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Pefos and other toxic substances and
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advocates for stricter regulation. Stoyber
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listed some of the potential side
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effects of being exposed to Pefos.
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There was a study that came
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out that showed that Harlem was
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a Pefos. blood was associated with
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lower rates of fertility. So we're
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just, we're seeing, you know, numerous
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studies that have linked them to
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different types of cancers, kidney
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cancer, liver cancer, numerous studies that
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have shown that the immune system
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is very sensitive to these chemicals.
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It can reduce your resistance to
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disease, it can reduce your response
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to vaccines, and also it's an
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endocrine disruptor. And so the list
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goes on. We're
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going to talk a lot
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more about health risks later
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this season, but for now,
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it's important to note. Just
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because nearly everyone on the
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planet likely has Pefos in
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their body doesn't mean they'll
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develop any of these conditions.
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Pefos are called forever chemicals
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because they break down very
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slowly, if ever. They can
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build up in our bodies
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over time and can even
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be found in animals, crops.
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Shoot, they're even present in
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the air and water. But
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where did the chemicals come
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from? Well, back to that
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lab from the top of
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the episode, the one in
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New Jersey. It sounds like
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the start of a Gothic
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horror novel. Roy J. Plunkett
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was a 27-year-old chemist from
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Ohio. He worked at DuPont's
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Chambers Works plant in deepwater
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New Jersey. It was a
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dream job for a poor
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farm boy and good pay.
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The views of the Delaware
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River probably didn't hurt either.
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Plunkett hadn't been at the
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plant for long when he
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opened up one of the
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canisters, he'd filled with different
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compounds of the colorless and
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odorless gas, tetraphylene, or TFE.
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He was trying to develop
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a DuPont version of Freon.
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Inside that canister, he found
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a white powder that was
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slightly greasy to the touch.
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He was curious about the
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substance. So, he rubbed the
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powder between his fingers. He
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sniffed it and tasted it.
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He and his assistant, Jack
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Rebeck, a Paul's native, discovered
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the substance was slippery, like
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two wet ice cubes sliding
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against each other. It was
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sticky, and under the right
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circumstances, could be molded into
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various shapes. After further testing,
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they discovered it didn't break
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down when exposed to heat,
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electricity, and most solvents. Turns
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out, that white powder was
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poly tetraflora ethylene, PTFE for
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short, which DuPont eventually dubbed
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Teflon. It was a founding
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father of the Pefos family.
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This story is about a
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new plastic material trademark Teflon.
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It is really a tough
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guy among plastics. It is
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really a tough guy among
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plastics. Teflon
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originally didn't make waves at DuPont.
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It was expensive to make, and
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people at the time were too
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enamored with nylon. Then came World
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War II and the Manhattan Project.
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Yes, the people who raced to
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produce the world's first nuclear weapons.
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Plunkett recalls the sudden attention Teflon
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got. When the punt reviewed with
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some of the Manhattan Project people,
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particularly General Groves, who was director
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of the Manhattan Project, He said,
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he heard about this new plastic
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material. He said, that sounds like
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something we're going to need. And
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he said, you guys better get
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a hold on it and develop
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it or we're going to take
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it away from you. So,
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DuPont quickly ramped up production
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of Teflon. Scientists with the
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Manhattan Project were interested in
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the product because they found
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it was the only coating
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that could stand up to
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the intense substances and processes
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that are used to enrich
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plutonium and uranium. The key
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materials used for the first
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nuclear bombs. white powder secretly
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during the war. The public
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didn't know about Teflon until
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1946. A few years after
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that, Plunkett was officially recognized
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for his invention. He was
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given an award for improving
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the, quote, comfort, welfare, and
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happiness of humankind. I'll let
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him tell you the story.
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When I was awarded to
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John Scott Medal by the
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city of Philadelphia, I was
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in 51, but I didn't
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receive it until June of
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52, at which DuPont had
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sent up a banquet and
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had a couple hundred people
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come to a banquet there
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at the Country Club in
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Pensgrove, New Jersey, and it
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was the first time. that
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anybody in this country saw
8:47
any cooking utensils lined with
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Teflon. Because what they did
8:51
was to make up muffin
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tins, lined with Teflon and
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gave him out his favors
8:57
to all the attendees to
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this banquet. Then,
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on December 15th, 1960, DuPont released the
9:05
first Teflon-coded pots and pans at Macy's
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in New York City. And get this,
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they only cost $6.94 and sold out
9:11
quickly. They were every housewife's dream. Cookies
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won't stick to Teflon. Pancakes won't stick
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to Teflon. Hash brown potatoes won't stick
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to Teflon. Meatloaf won't stick to Teflon.
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Even oatmeal won't stick to Teflon. I
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don't think anything sticks to Teflon. And
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do you know what this means? It
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means that you don't ever have to
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scour cookware if it has a duPont
9:29
Teflon finish. Even burned food wipes off
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quickly and easily. Until, people found out
9:34
that Teflon could be scrubbed off a
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steel pan. So, DuPont improved the bonding
9:38
and made my Nana a lot happier.
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At this point in time, was
9:42
off Teflon. He He
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had spent a
9:46
short stint as the
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the manager of Chambers
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of Chamber's eventually found
9:52
his way to my
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home state of
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Texas to open up
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a new do -pot
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plant. up a new DuPont
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proud of my my partner
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in this development. I'm proud
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of the company
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with whom I worked.
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I'm I'm proud of
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what has happened. and
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most of all, I'm
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proud of all the benefit
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to mankind from this
10:20
original invention. The discovery
10:22
of PTFE has been
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largely described as
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an example of serendipity,
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a a lucky accident,
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a flesh of genius. Perhaps
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all three were involved. It's
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been nearly a century since since
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and Rubick and discovered Teflon. And
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now we're stuck grappling with the
10:46
unintended consequences of that quote, flash
10:48
of genius. that quote, flash of out, out Pefos,
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like the chemicals used to
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make Teflon, have been found in
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drinking water sources throughout New Jersey New
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around the country the decades. The EPA
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The EPA warned last year that
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even a small amount of PFOS
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found in drinking water could
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be dangerous to human health. Peafos
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are really good at repelling water, oil,
11:15
oil, and grease. added to a they're added
11:17
to a variety of products. is... The
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The problem a The
11:21
EPA is introducing a PFAS regulation new the
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first new regulation that they've introduced in
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23 years. you how long it takes tells you
11:28
how long it takes to regulate something,
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and they're doing it because it's such
11:32
a toxic and persistent chemical. That's That's Graham
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He may be a He may be a professor
11:36
of physics at the University of Notre
11:38
Dame, but he got his start in
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science in New Jersey student a student
11:42
at Princeton. These days,
11:44
and and his students hunt for in in
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all sorts of everyday products, fast food from
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fast food wrappers to school uniforms I bet
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face masks. hard I bet you'll find
11:52
it hard to find a product we
11:54
haven't put in the beam so far. far.
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It's hard to escape forever chemicals,
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but Peasley is trying to help
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find a way. He wants to
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get rid of Peafos from non-essential
12:10
uses, like fast food packaging. Peafos
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is used in this kind of
12:14
packaging to make products waterproof and
12:17
resistant to grease and stains. Peasley
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and his team used a particle-induced
12:21
gamma ray emission to test for
12:24
fluorine in hundreds of fast food
12:26
wrappers from around the country. Of
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the roughly 400 fast food contact
12:31
papers, paperboard containers, and cups sampled,
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nearly half of the paper and
12:35
20% of the paperboard products contain
12:38
Pefos. That's alarming on its own,
12:40
but Peasley is most concerned about
12:42
what happens to fast food wrappers
12:45
once they're thrown in the trash.
12:50
And so 100% of those chemicals
12:52
on the food wrappers will come
12:54
off in 60 days in an
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aerobic landfill, which means it gets
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into drinking water. It passes right
13:00
through the treatment centers. The FDA
13:02
announced in February that fast food
13:04
wrappers and other food packaging made
13:06
with PFS are no longer being
13:09
sold in the US. The news
13:11
comes more than three years after
13:13
the agency reached an agreement with
13:15
manufacturers for a voluntary phase-out. But
13:17
it will take time for food
13:19
wrappers with Pefos to fully come
13:21
out of service. So, you know,
13:23
beware, they are still out there.
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Stoiber, the scientists with the Environmental
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Working Group, says the feds should
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go farther because one can't shop
13:32
their way out of exposures, and
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the exposures are going to be
13:36
different for everyone. Twelve
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states have already banned or phased
13:41
out Pfos in all food packaging.
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New Jersey is not one of
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those states. Though a bill to
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create such a ban was put
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forward by lawmakers in Trenton in
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2022. But so far, it hasn't
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even gotten a hearing. has been
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so widespread for so long that
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nearly every person on the planet
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alive today has detectable levels of
14:03
these chemicals in their blood. I
14:05
repeat, nearly every person on the
14:07
planet alive today has Peafas in
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their blood. We're finding Peafas in
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every blood sample in every blood
14:14
bank. In fact, you have to
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go back to the Korean War
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to find blood that didn't have
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it. There's no blood left in
14:22
North America that doesn't have Peafas
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in it, from cord blood to
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adult blood anywhere. Now,
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try not to freak out.
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Most people won't experience any
14:37
health problems or feel any
14:39
symptoms. But we should, and
14:41
can, limit our exposure. Which
14:43
is where agencies like the
14:45
New Jersey Department of Environmental
14:47
Protection come in. In 2018,
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New Jersey became the first
14:51
U.S. state to establish an
14:54
enforceable drinking water standard for
14:56
a Pefos chemical. But like
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we said before, there's thousands
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of chemicals in the Pefos
15:02
family. And New Jersey DEP
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originally only focused on three
15:06
in the state's drinking water.
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That number rose to six
15:11
this spring after the EPA
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finalized its much stricter health
15:15
limits on Pefos and drinking
15:17
water. For some people, drinking
15:19
water is how they're exposed
15:21
to Pefos. Others, it's the
15:23
food they eat. And not
15:25
just from the wrappers. A
15:28
person who catches a fish
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in a Pefos contaminated river
15:32
and then grills it for
15:34
dinner can be exposed. Rivers
15:36
and other bodies of water
15:38
can be polluted with forever
15:40
chemicals through the runoff from
15:43
industrial facilities, firefighting foam, and
15:45
landfills. And Stuyber says Pefos
15:47
builds up in our bodies
15:49
over time. Instead
15:51
of building up in our
15:53
fat, they tend to stick
15:55
to proteins in our body.
15:57
They tend to build up
15:59
in protein-rich areas in the
16:01
body. They stick to organs.
16:03
our body and they can
16:05
stick to blood and essentially
16:08
travel around our body. So
16:10
drinking water regulations are a
16:12
good start, but that's really
16:14
just the tip of the
16:16
iceberg. I have this mutation
16:18
in my P-P-P-P-O-X gene, P-P-P-P-O-X,
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which inhibits the way the
16:22
heem in my blood is
16:24
made, so I can't be
16:26
in the sun. Bonnie
16:28
Smalley has been diagnosed with variegate
16:31
porphyria, a rare skin disease, and
16:33
has experienced severe dental problems. All
16:35
of this she believes to be
16:37
the result of exposure to drinking
16:40
water contaminated with Pifos and other
16:42
pollution from Chambers Works, the site
16:44
formerly owned by DuPont. So I've
16:46
lived my entire life with a
16:49
disorder that is not in my
16:51
family, that nobody picked up, that
16:53
I only picked up because I
16:55
did a DNA test. Bonnie
16:58
grew up in Pennesville, New Jersey,
17:00
a small town on the Delaware
17:02
River. She liked for the state,
17:04
or really anyone, to test the
17:06
blood of Salem County residents for
17:08
Pefos, but no testing has been
17:10
done. I just keep running into
17:12
brick walls. It would be nice
17:14
if the state helped. I would
17:16
love for the state to help,
17:18
because we've been ignored for very,
17:20
very long, and it's... People
17:23
are dying. That's what it
17:25
comes down to. People are
17:27
dying. And they're very sick.
17:29
The State Health Department acknowledged
17:32
that it has not done
17:34
any studies of Pefos impacts
17:36
in Salem County specifically, but
17:38
the department is currently conducting
17:40
a statewide study of 500
17:42
New Jerseyans to monitor their
17:44
exposure to Pefos and other
17:47
chemicals. To be clear, though,
17:49
no Salem County resident is
17:51
a part of that effort.
17:53
Data from the State Health
17:55
Department shows that cancer rates
17:57
in Salem County are higher
17:59
than rates statewide, though it
18:02
is important. note that attributing
18:04
cancer to a single cause
18:06
is almost impossible. Body's family
18:08
goes back generations in Pennesville.
18:10
My uncle Ken designed the
18:12
town seal for the township
18:15
of Pennesville and there is
18:17
a chemical beaker in our
18:19
town seal. just up the
18:21
road from Bonnie's childhood home,
18:23
is the place where Plunkett
18:25
and his assistant discovered one
18:27
of the first peafoss chemicals
18:30
while working at DuPont's Chamber's
18:32
Works plant. Chamber's Works has
18:34
a storied place in the
18:36
history of America's chemical industry.
18:38
DuPont began using the facility
18:40
in 1892 to make gun
18:43
powder. By the 1920s, the
18:45
company had begun making dies
18:47
and refrigerants at the site.
18:49
Throughout its history, Chamber's works
18:51
has been home to all
18:53
sorts of chemical production. Historian
18:55
Lucas Klausen, who works at
18:58
the Hagley Museum in Delaware
19:00
and studies the history of
19:02
DuPont, described the operation as
19:04
an economic powerhouse for the
19:06
region. there were thousands of
19:08
people employed there at one
19:11
point. And that's everybody from
19:13
people in administration, people that
19:15
worked in the research facilities,
19:17
people in powder production, down
19:19
to like Teamsters, your stevedores,
19:21
the shipping for all the
19:23
maritime stuff that came and
19:26
went because they had their
19:28
own port essentially there at
19:30
the deep water facility. So
19:32
you've got thousands of people
19:34
who are employed directly or
19:36
indirectly in Salem County as
19:39
a result of this facility.
19:41
DuPont eventually moved its Teflon
19:43
manufacturing to the company's Arlington
19:45
facility in North Jersey, and
19:47
then to its Washington Works
19:49
plant in West Virginia. It
19:51
was in West Virginia, where
19:54
widespread pollution from the work
19:56
eventually became the grounds for
19:58
a landmark settlement in 2017.
20:00
DuPont agreed to pay more
20:02
than $670 million to more
20:04
than 3,500 affected plaintiffs. The
20:07
2019 movie Dark Waters is
20:09
based on the West Virginia
20:11
case. They're hiding something. That
20:13
chemical. What if you drank
20:15
it? Drink it? It's like
20:17
saying, what if I swallowed
20:19
a tire? What if whatever's
20:22
killing those cows is in
20:24
the drinking water? But
20:27
even after DuPont moved Teflon
20:30
production elsewhere, the company made
20:32
sure Pefos remained in Salem
20:34
County. DuPont imported the chemical
20:36
for floral octanoic acid, or
20:39
simply PFOA, and other Pefos,
20:41
to Chambers Works for decades,
20:43
starting in the 1950s. The
20:46
chemicals were used to manufacture
20:48
Teflon and other products at
20:50
the site. Meanwhile, Chamber's works
20:53
became a large waste handling
20:55
site, with massive landfills and
20:57
a wastewater treatment plant meant
20:59
to deal with hazardous materials.
21:02
Pifos laden waste from around
21:04
the country, including from the
21:06
infamous West Virginia plant, was
21:09
shipped to Salem County. Locals
21:11
like Bonnie's dad hauled that
21:13
waste to the plant. I
21:22
went with Bonnie and her mom on
21:24
a driving tour of the patchwork of
21:26
small towns in Salem County that surround
21:29
the Chambers Works site. And this is
21:31
what most people know as Pennsylvania because
21:33
they're just passing through. Yeah. Because you've
21:36
got 95, you've got the term pike,
21:38
it's heading to the Delaware Bridge. Bonnie,
21:40
39, has done her homework. She stays
21:43
on top of all things Chambers Works
21:45
and runs the WTF DuPont Facebook page.
21:48
As we drove around, Bonnie
21:51
and her mom pointed out
21:53
the YMCA, Country Club, Elementary
21:55
School, Park, and neighborhoods that
21:57
made up DuPont's Company Town.
22:00
city, where the streets are
22:02
named after, you guessed it,
22:05
letters of the alphabet, A,
22:07
B, C, D, each lined
22:09
with identical one-story homes. As
22:11
the plant grew, they just
22:13
kept building places for them
22:15
to live. People still live
22:17
in these homes, whether or
22:19
not they know the area's
22:22
history. And it's hard to
22:24
remember what life was like
22:26
when Chamber's works was where
22:28
most people worked. When I
22:30
was growing up, if your
22:32
parents worked for DuPont, you
22:34
had money. You were more
22:36
affluent than other people. Many
22:39
of the people who worked
22:41
there, whose loyalty to DuPont
22:43
went unquestioned, are gone. DuPont
22:45
stopped producing explosives and dies
22:47
at the site by the
22:49
early 1980s. but the chemical
22:51
production remained. Even after DuPont
22:53
gave up Chambers Works in
22:56
the 2015 corporate spin-off that
22:58
created a new company, Comores.
23:00
Today, Comores continues that work
23:02
and continues using PFOS as
23:04
part of it. The company
23:06
specifically uses GenX Chemicals, which
23:08
DuPont introduced as a substitute
23:10
for PFOA more than a
23:13
decade ago. The
23:15
Gen X chemicals are intended to
23:17
be less dangerous to human health
23:19
in the environment, but much is
23:22
still unknown about the health effects
23:24
of these chemicals, though many experts
23:26
expect they will be similar to
23:28
other pfasts like PFOA. These days,
23:30
much of the original Chambers Works
23:33
plant is gone, and once left
23:35
of the roughly two-square-mile area is
23:37
mostly abandoned. They systematically have destroyed
23:39
the plant. There's very little left
23:42
back there. And I don't think
23:44
there's been a lot of explanation
23:46
as to why that happened. I
23:48
did see people checking the monitoring
23:50
wells that surround the plant, but
23:53
there was no longer the hustle
23:55
and bustle that once was. Comores
23:57
is also monitoring off-site drinking water
23:59
wells for Pefos contamination. company has
24:02
pledged to provide bottled water to
24:04
households with tainted wells until the
24:06
company is able to either connect
24:08
homes to a local water system
24:10
or install a filter on the
24:13
well that is able to handle
24:15
Pefos. It's a program that DuPont
24:17
started in 2009, and Comores continues
24:19
today. As of April, 229 have
24:22
been installed at homes in four
24:24
towns, including Pennsylvania. Pennsville
24:28
and Kearney's point aren't the company
24:30
towns they used to be. Bonnie's
24:32
grandfather worked at Chambers Works, her
24:34
dad worked at Chambers Works. It
24:37
took three generations of a good,
24:39
regular paycheck for people to realize
24:41
the price they paid for more
24:43
than a century of doing DuPont's
24:46
bidding. They're now fighting back. In
24:48
2016, Kearney's Point brought a lawsuit
24:50
against DuPont and Comores. Residents are
24:53
holding the companies responsible for dumping
24:55
100 million pounds of chemical waste
24:57
into the area's soil and water
24:59
over the plant's history. We've
25:02
been drinking it. We're sick. You
25:04
need to do something about it.
25:07
That's a story that's being replicated
25:09
throughout the United States and around
25:11
the world to the point where
25:13
a company like DuPont and Comores
25:16
has been sued a thousand times
25:18
with lawsuits coming in every day.
25:20
That's Al Telsey. He's leading Kearney's
25:23
point in a billion dollar lawsuit
25:25
against DuPont. Telsi grew up
25:27
in Salem County. We met him
25:29
at the Bloomer, Diner, and Pinsville
25:31
to talk about the case. So
25:33
now we are just one of
25:35
many people clamoring for justice. You
25:37
know, the company town mentality is
25:39
a thing of the past. It's
25:41
in the chapter of the history
25:44
book that just isn't the presence.
25:46
Basically, he argues that in the
25:49
process of DuPont spinning off commours,
25:51
the two companies repeatedly broke state
25:53
law by failing to either clean
25:55
up chambers works or set aside
25:58
enough money for state and local
26:00
authorities to do cleanup themselves. That
26:02
lawsuit remains ongoing, more than six
26:04
years after it was filed. And
26:06
it's not just Kearney's point that
26:09
wants polluters to pay up. The
26:11
state sued DuPont and Camores in
26:13
2019 for natural resource damages caused
26:15
by the company's actions at Chambers
26:18
Works. That case also remains ongoing.
26:24
For now, life goes on in
26:26
Salem County. Camores has a billboard
26:28
up on the north side of
26:30
the New Jersey End of the
26:32
Delaware Memorial Bridge to catch the
26:34
eye of any driver who might
26:36
have been gazing at the Chamber's
26:38
work plant below. In January, it
26:40
read, Camores makes the world work!
26:45
Pefos. They're the chemicals found
26:47
in nearly everyone. What was
26:49
once considered a housewife's best
26:51
friend has turned into public
26:53
enemy number one, and for
26:56
good reason. This season of
26:58
Hazard and Jay, we're serving
27:00
up the toxic truth about
27:02
Pefos in New Jersey's water,
27:04
one glass at a time.
27:06
On episode two, we look
27:08
at how Pefos are fueling
27:10
a public health crisis. Hazard
27:16
NJ Spotlight News Production. You can
27:18
support our reporting by heading to
27:20
nj spotlight news.org/donate. The show is
27:22
written, edited, and hosted by me,
27:25
Jordan Goss Pore. Michael Saul Warren
27:27
contributed reporting. He also co-wrote and
27:29
produced all episodes. James Craft is
27:31
the executive producer within Jay Spotlight
27:34
News. Our executive in charge of
27:36
production is Joe Lee. Chloe Matissi
27:38
is our production manager. Additional research
27:40
was done by Judah Duke. Our
27:43
sound designer and engineer is Mark
27:45
Bush. Music for Hazard in Jay
27:47
was composed by Nick Pennington. Artwork
27:49
by Matthew Fleming. Special thanks to
27:51
the Science History Institute in Philadelphia.
27:54
providing the oral
27:56
history interview of
27:58
oral Plunkett. Arrow
28:00
films for the
28:03
use of of DuPont
28:05
Hagley Library for
28:07
the Teflon -related audio
28:09
clips. Arrow
28:12
Films for the
28:14
use of the
28:16
Crazy's trailer and
28:19
the Hagley Library
28:21
for the Teflon
28:24
related audio clips.
28:36
clips. watching!
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