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Dolphins draft extravaganza on draft time podcast presented

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by locked on dolphins podcast Just trying to

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make the title as long as possible here

1:11

Kyle It's a 42 word title that we

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do on the podcast here every single year

1:16

Kyle welcome back in my man How we

1:18

feel and how's the voice did it get

1:20

better over the last two minutes? No,

1:22

we're still We're

1:24

still putting the old college try together, but that's

1:26

okay. I feel good about our ability to

1:28

finish here on the mock I mean, I'm

1:30

looking at a one, two, three,

1:32

four, five, six, seven page Excel sheet

1:35

document that has all these beautifully

1:37

colored and sorted and grades. It's a

1:39

work of art. It's a masterpiece. I'm

1:42

sure a six plus month labor of love

1:44

for Kyle. And my question for you is,

1:46

Kyle, I know the work that you do between

1:49

Friggin September to now to get ready for

1:51

this. The guy will text me at 9 48

1:53

p .m. Clips of a two -lane defensive tackle

1:55

locking out in two gaps. I'm like, Kyle, go

1:57

to bed, man, or watch a movie or

1:59

something. Nobody's watching football. Those texts are a lot later

2:01

than nine 48. Let's be honest. Sometimes they're all

2:03

throughout the day and I enjoy them. Everyone, no

2:05

matter what time of day they are. But my

2:07

question for you is Kyle, because as someone that

2:09

got to like post up for two straight drafts

2:11

on night one and just watch and like open

2:13

a cold one and be a fan and not

2:15

cover the draft was kind of fun. But I

2:17

am excited to get back into the first round

2:19

like we were last year with chop. What does

2:21

draft weekend look like for you, man? It's got

2:24

to be, I'm guessing just as busy as the

2:26

work is beforehand. Yeah. So one

2:28

of the things that I try to do, um, so

2:30

that I have as robust and

2:32

clean a picture as of a

2:34

possible for locked on dolphins with when

2:37

they make pick selections is

2:39

I will update these boards in

2:41

real time as picks are made. So

2:43

like names will get grayed out and crossed out.

2:45

So at any given point in the

2:47

draft, I can look and say, hey, here's

2:49

where I think the value is. So

2:52

when Miami picks at 13, assuming they

2:54

stay to pick 13, I'll

2:56

know unequivocally who my best player

2:58

available was. So that way I

3:00

don't have to kind of. take

3:04

the catalog in real time when I do

3:06

the show. So I have a live stream

3:08

on Thursday night that I'm doing with lockdown and

3:10

NFL scouting, but the rest of it is

3:12

really going to be dolphins focused and centric

3:14

content with stuff in real time reacting to

3:16

stuff as it happens, making content around these

3:18

pics as they're made. But

3:20

I'm going to live in this document that

3:22

you're looking at right now and update

3:25

it in real time so that

3:27

it paints a real time

3:29

picture of the draft unfold as

3:31

it unfolds. for the dolphins

3:33

specifically. We've come a long way,

3:35

man. When I first got into the draft back

3:37

in like 2003, I used to write down every

3:39

single pick in a composition notebook. For what reason?

3:41

I don't know. I just wanted to write them

3:43

down and act like I was doing something and

3:45

tracking it back in my high school days. Um,

3:47

real quick to kind of give a follow up

3:49

from episode one, which if you did not hear

3:51

that, go back to Monday's draft time episode. We

3:54

talked about the dolphins off season approach cap, all

3:56

like all the stuff that you want to talk

3:58

about from an off season perspective. And we concluded

4:00

it with the dolphins first round draft pick discussion.

4:02

And in that we did not get into

4:05

Tyler Warren content because we talked about seven

4:07

defensive players. And you did say there was

4:09

no player that would crack that seven -player group

4:11

as a potential top of that group player.

4:13

I'm curious though, because I'm looking at Tyler

4:15

Warren here as a really highly graded player

4:17

on your board. Where would he

4:19

factor into those seven players we talked about? So,

4:22

he's right up there. He's

4:24

the same grade as Will Johnson.

4:26

Okay. For me. Now, that's

4:28

where you put those players into

4:30

a tier. you try

4:32

to start to separate, you know,

4:34

positional value kind of becomes part of

4:36

the conversation. I would defer

4:38

to if both were on the board, either

4:41

Jaday Baron or Will Johnson over

4:43

Tyler Warren because of the traditional

4:45

positional value. And then it is

4:47

a bigger piece of me. So

4:49

that's kind of why I like

4:51

that these are, there's an individual

4:53

number grade, but it's also more

4:55

focused on a tier. So I

4:57

can look within the tier and

4:59

say, okay, What's the best possible

5:01

solution of the same players who

5:03

fit within the tier? So warrants

5:05

in that tier, there would be

5:07

some iterations of top 12s in

5:09

which Tyler Warren would probably be

5:11

on the shortlist and get more

5:13

strong consideration for me. But

5:15

it would have to be a

5:17

very hyper specific type of situation

5:19

where you probably get one quarterback

5:22

in that scenario. You're

5:24

probably very offensive line light. in

5:26

the first 12 picks for that

5:28

scenario, where maybe you get Membao

5:30

and Will Campbell are off the

5:32

board and that's it for offensive

5:34

linemen. I like Josh Simmons

5:36

from Ohio State a ton, but with the medical

5:39

questions there, I just, I probably

5:41

wouldn't feel too comfortable without knowing a lot

5:43

more of what the teams know, just

5:45

me being somebody who's on the outside looking

5:47

in. I imagine

5:49

that I would say, hey, you

5:51

know, teller tendon issue. I

5:53

feel really good about that with, you know, as

5:55

good of a season as he had. But

5:59

if they were to, in any situation,

6:01

make that choice, you'd have to assume

6:03

they're comfortable with what they found on

6:05

the medical background. Yeah, especially giving

6:07

Greer's comments about needing impact players from this year's

6:09

class, and that's probably going to be in the

6:11

first round. Like, you got to get a guy

6:13

that's going to play in this first round, most

6:15

likely. Just real quick, another quick aside, because I'm

6:17

looking at Ashton Gentie here and his great players'

6:19

Tribune article. I'm sure you saw it. Like, the

6:22

quote of, in tackle

6:24

football, If I

6:26

were you I would take the guy

6:28

they can't tackle like thanks draft me.

6:30

That was so cool What about him

6:32

like? He's a great player, right? But

6:34

like the position value you've already got two good backs

6:36

here. Like what do you think about that idea? It's

6:40

kind of the same thing as Tyler

6:42

Warren for me where I can envision

6:44

a world where if Ashton Gentie ease

6:46

ease my eighth rated player on the

6:48

dolphin specific board and the names that

6:50

are in front of them or Travis

6:52

Hunter Abdul Carter, Jaday Baron,

6:55

Tyler Warren, Mason Graham, Will

6:57

Johnson, and we mentioned Josh Simmons

6:59

as a guy who I

7:01

really like, but with the medical

7:03

questions that I have, I

7:06

can't downgrade his grade because the tape

7:08

and the resume is the tape and

7:10

the resume, but the risk versus reward

7:12

at 13, I probably wouldn't feel comfortable

7:14

with, and Genti's in the same tier

7:16

and bucket anyway, so. It's

7:18

not hard for me to imagine

7:20

where is the best player available, just

7:23

authentically the best player regardless of

7:25

need. And if you make that decision,

7:27

then, you know, that would be my focus on it

7:29

and how do we make it work with the

7:31

other players that we have and what other solutions

7:33

can you find at the other spots where you

7:35

have needs? Yeah, it's these conversations

7:37

you have to have because like you

7:39

said, there's there's hyper specific boards that

7:41

could create situations where you get

7:43

solutions and maybe you weren't planning on. So you

7:45

have to have at least some type of conversation

7:47

around these potential options to make yourself prepared for

7:50

what could happen. Come draft night. Cause it gets

7:52

crazier every single year. It seems like, okay, Kyle,

7:54

we've done enough 13th pick talk. Um, I think

7:56

we have, let's, let's go ahead and get into

7:58

the second round here. We'll take our first break.

8:00

Uh, we've, we've talked about the position needs. Chris

8:02

Greer talked about him and his press conference. Like

8:04

it's not really much of a mystery defensive tackle.

8:06

You've got some, some spots to fill there. Uh,

8:08

right now we'll see about the guard position. I,

8:10

there's been a lot of talk about Leah, Mike

8:12

and bro. as a competition piece at that position,

8:14

which I have to imagine means another veteran or

8:16

high draft pick at that position, safety,

8:18

um, similar thing there. And then cornerback, obviously,

8:21

especially in a post Ramsey world, if and when

8:23

they do get him traded off the roster.

8:25

So looking at those four spots and really you

8:27

can go beyond that as well, but those

8:29

four spots kind of the keys. the keys to

8:31

hone in on here. As you look at

8:33

pick 48, like I'm seeing a bunch of players

8:35

in those position groups that would kind of

8:37

stack up in that glut you have there. What

8:40

are you looking for at that position? And

8:42

how would it change based upon what could happen

8:44

in round one, be it Baron or Johnson

8:46

versus Kenneth Grant versus Starks and Eamon worry? Like

8:48

how does the first round impact where you

8:50

might go in terms of positional value in that

8:52

second round? Take us through pick 48, man.

8:54

Yeah. I think the only thing that, that would

8:56

be off the board for me is potentially

8:59

a double dip. with the first two picks. Now,

9:01

there's some spots where you could probably

9:03

afford a double dip, where you could

9:05

probably argue a corner. If you double

9:08

dip, then it was today Barron and

9:10

Benjamin Morrison. For example,

9:12

the corner from Notre Dame or

9:14

Savon Reville from ECU, who was

9:16

a player that's right up there

9:18

in the top 20, but just

9:20

like Josh Simmons has some medical

9:22

background stuff that probably not willing

9:24

to commit the 13th overall picked. But

9:27

because of that and because the level

9:29

of competition, maybe he's there later. And if

9:31

you wanted to double dip in that

9:33

regard and kind of go Devante Davis, Sean

9:35

Smith route from that, that draft class

9:37

where the dolphins double dipped on corners real

9:39

early, I could get on board with that

9:41

kind of vision. Now, I think there's

9:43

a lot of other foundational work that has

9:45

to be done in some other places. But

9:48

generally speaking, I would be surprised

9:50

if you double dipped at 13 and

9:53

48. This

9:55

is probably where you have

9:57

potential to find a needle -moving

9:59

player at offensive guard that you're

10:02

expecting to exclusively play offensive

10:04

guard. I expect Grace Abel

10:06

from North Dakota State is going to be gone.

10:09

But Donovan Jackson from Ohio State, I

10:11

think, has a chance to be

10:13

there. Jonah Savinaya from Arizona has

10:15

a chance to be there. Tate

10:18

Rattledge from Georgia probably will be there.

10:20

And those are three names at that

10:22

spot that I look at and say,

10:24

hey, if you want to invest in

10:26

protecting your quarterback and getting a run

10:28

game back on track and getting more

10:30

long -term security for your offensive line

10:32

and getting a cost control player where

10:34

all of a sudden, league average guards

10:36

are costing $13, $14, $19 million a

10:38

season, which we saw this year for

10:40

agency, might not be a bad

10:42

idea to kind of, that changes the stereotypes

10:44

of positional value for that position in the

10:46

draft because the economics there have gone crazy

10:49

the last two years. Yeah, man. I'm sitting

10:51

here looking at your board thinking like, Oh

10:53

yeah. When you first started answering that question,

10:55

like he's going to talk about defensive tackles

10:57

because he's got Tiley Williams at 46. You've

10:59

got Alfred Collins at 49, Walter Nolan at

11:01

51. And then I thought I had one

11:03

more, but maybe I'm not seeing it, but

11:05

those, that's three players that could be on

11:07

the board for you in that spot. And,

11:09

and then I'm thinking you're going to talk

11:11

about them. Then you talk about offensive linemen

11:13

and they're all there, but now I'm looking

11:15

at the cornerback spot too. And you've got

11:17

guys right there as well. So it's almost

11:19

like. To go back to Chris

11:21

Greer's comments like the draft does kind of

11:23

stack up nicely for what you could

11:25

want so I mean I don't know the

11:28

question to ask because there's so many

11:30

permutations of how it could go at that

11:32

position, but it kind of sounds like

11:34

Regardless, Miami's gonna be in a position to

11:36

get a guy at 48 that could

11:38

be a potential, you know, because

11:40

like Ariante Esser here is a Minnesota tackle,

11:42

Marcus and Bo from Wake Forest as

11:44

a guy that like, I think both those

11:46

guys could possibly kick inside and play

11:48

guard two that could be part of that

11:50

equation. Am I, am I looking at

11:52

this as a potential like, can we try

11:54

to find a way to get two

11:56

picks in this range? Because I kind of

11:58

feel like there's a lot of guys

12:01

I like in this position, Kyle. Yeah, I

12:03

think in a perfect world, you double

12:05

the amount of picks you make on day

12:07

two, because there's a lot of potential

12:09

for players. And you mentioned corner, right? Where

12:11

if I skip the top four corners

12:13

that I have on the board, including Travis

12:15

Hunter, I have

12:17

Trey Amos from Ole Miss, Darian Porter from

12:19

Iowa State, Benjamin Morrison from Notre Dame,

12:21

Jacob Parrish from Kansas State, Maxwell Harrison from

12:23

Kentucky, Azari Thomas from Florida

12:25

State. That's kind of like a collective

12:28

tier of talent. That's six names at

12:30

corner. Now, not all of them are

12:32

going to be there. But

12:34

you mean to tell me all six are going to be gone?

12:36

And even if all six are gone,

12:39

then you say, okay, defensive tackle.

12:41

It's Tyler Williams. It's Alfred

12:43

Collins. It's Walter Nolan. I would

12:45

put Darius Alexander from Toledo in that same

12:47

bucket as well. So now I got

12:49

four names there. And if all those in

12:51

all the corners are gone, then you

12:53

shift your focus to the offensive line. And

12:55

it's Donovan Jackson. Predictably speaking,

12:57

I have Grace Abel in this bucket,

12:59

but I think he and Tyler Booker

13:01

will be gone. So it's Donovan Jackson.

13:04

It's Tate Rattledge. It's Jonah Savinaya. It's

13:06

Ariante Erserie. It's Marcus Mbow who can

13:08

play guard or center on the interior

13:10

for you. I think Charles Grant from

13:12

William & Mary is probably a little

13:14

bit more of a projection as a

13:16

smaller school guy. Maybe you don't want

13:18

to take that extra risk, but I

13:20

would put him in that bucket as

13:22

well. And that's Jackson Grant, Rattledge, Savinaya,

13:24

Erserie, that's six. So that's

13:27

16 names between

13:29

guard. defensive tackling corner. We

13:31

didn't talk about safety yet. So

13:33

it really does

13:35

stack in a perfect

13:38

world. You could give me

13:40

two picks in the 40s and 50s. You can give me

13:42

a pick in the 70s, and you can give me a

13:44

pick at 98. And I

13:46

think you have a chance to

13:48

really gobble up a bunch of

13:50

players. Now, I think the thing

13:52

that does out of everything we

13:54

just presented, the biggest thing that

13:56

I would point to is at

13:58

the safety position. The Stark

14:00

Seaman Warrior tier is a tier all in

14:03

and of its own. And then I think

14:05

you have Xavier Watson, Andrew McCuba for me

14:07

is the next tier down. But

14:10

where you have a lot

14:12

of interchangeable and similar value kind

14:14

of pushes closer to 98,

14:16

in my opinion, where now that's

14:18

Lathan Ransom and Jonah Sanker

14:20

and Kevin Winston and Jalen Reed

14:22

and Billy Bowman. And

14:24

you put Craig Woodson and Malachi

14:26

Moore in that bucket as

14:28

well. Caleb Ransall has corner

14:30

safety capability. Marcus Siegel from Kansas

14:32

State has corner safety capability where

14:34

he talked about 98 or 116.

14:37

So that depth and that's where the

14:39

sweet spot is for safety. So

14:41

if you're not going to go like

14:43

needle -moving difference maker early, I

14:46

think instead of plucking one at 48 unless

14:48

it's too good to be true player, it's available.

14:50

Just trust that run. You're not going to

14:52

miss the entirety of that run and you'll have

14:54

somebody a little later on. I think that's,

14:56

that shakes up quite nicely for pick 48 and

14:59

98. We kind of discussed both those there

15:01

and that, and that one question. Let's go ahead

15:03

and take a break right there. Come back

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subject to change. Yeah,

15:52

man, like just looking at that list and

15:54

the discussion about the players and that grouping, like

15:56

it kind of sounds like if somebody were

15:58

and the Chicago Bears are a team that has

16:00

two picks in the 40s and maybe could

16:02

want to get back into that first round, I

16:04

don't know what their approach would be, but

16:07

that's like, that's one team that could do it.

16:09

It sounds like you might be willing, Kyle,

16:11

to get out of the first round altogether based

16:13

upon what you have here in this list

16:15

between, you know, picks 25 through 80, really. Yeah,

16:18

I think there's. There

16:20

is a world that exists where the

16:22

player that's on the board at 13.

16:25

Is too good to pass up. Yeah. But.

16:30

When the conversation becomes. The

16:34

opportunity cost to move out of

16:36

that player at potentially, you know, if

16:38

it's. A team that's

16:40

in the top three that passes on a

16:43

quarterback and wants to come back up and

16:45

get in front of Pittsburgh, hypothetically. Cleveland

16:47

has. 33, 67,

16:50

94, 104. The

16:52

Giants have 34, 65,

16:55

and 99, and 105.

16:58

And so you're talking about

17:00

potentially moving back 20 spots.

17:02

That's a big drop. But

17:05

if it's giving you the

17:07

picks in this range, and

17:09

there's future draft implications that

17:11

come as a result of

17:13

that as well with 2026

17:15

draft capital, I would be

17:17

listening. Now, I'm not guaranteeing that I

17:19

would do it, but you can either try

17:21

to incrementally slide your way down or

17:23

you can get a team that's really desperate,

17:25

that is going to give you the

17:27

day two picks you want now and something

17:29

big in the future. And if you

17:31

get that, then especially if that team's already

17:34

made a pick in the top three

17:36

and got like a needle -moving player elsewhere, I

17:38

would listen to those phone calls for sure.

17:40

And as it stands, a chance to get

17:43

three impact players in those first three picks,

17:45

the top 100 of this year's draft and

17:47

at positions of need to it seems like.

17:49

So a pretty good stacked board here for

17:51

us going into date number three. And we'll

17:53

go ahead and make those picks the end of

17:55

the podcast here from Kyle, but let's go

17:57

ahead and pivot onto the third day of

17:59

the draft. It is Saturday morning. Some folks

18:01

might have some draft fatigue. The, uh, the

18:03

real, the real ball knowers, the real fans

18:05

of the draft will be sticking around for

18:07

all, all four rounds on Saturday as we

18:09

get into pick one 16, which would be

18:11

the 13th pick, uh, made on day three.

18:13

And I'm looking at this list here. You've

18:15

got. Couple of the guys we just talked

18:17

about, you've got some interior defensive linemen, some

18:19

receivers, even some more corners in this range.

18:21

Kyle, when you look at the third day and,

18:23

you know, based upon all the stuff you

18:25

just discussed for the first three picks, maybe

18:27

you scratch off three of the needs you

18:29

have, is this where you start thinking about

18:31

just taking the best player regardless of positions?

18:33

Because like this is the time where it

18:35

comes to like, you can't really. you know,

18:37

parse your needs. It's like, just take the

18:39

best player because this is kind of not

18:41

a crap shoot, but it's tough to find

18:43

hits at this late in the draft. I

18:46

I kind of struggle with this

18:48

where there's a part of me that

18:50

says day three is where you

18:52

should shift your focus to addressing your

18:55

needs to get more bodies in.

18:57

And then maybe you compliment that with

18:59

veteran players and hope that develops

19:01

a talent. But

19:04

I look at a tight

19:06

end. running back.

19:08

We didn't talk about these positions

19:10

at all, but they're kind of ancillary

19:12

or complimentary players that dolphins probably

19:14

need another body, at least at running

19:16

back, you know, with Raheem Oster

19:19

and Jeff Olson being gone and off

19:21

the roster. Another

19:24

back that, you know, Alexander Madison, that's

19:27

not a big financial commitment to. So, you

19:29

know, he's going to have to compete

19:31

for his spot. I think you need some

19:33

more competition. Day three with

19:35

those picks is the perfect kind of

19:37

place. to do something like that. I think

19:39

that you're getting into appropriate window to

19:41

have another swing of the bat at

19:43

the quarterback position as well to bring

19:45

in a third quarterback. I don't think

19:47

the Dolphin should roster just two quarterbacks

19:49

in season. I think they would benefit from

19:51

having a third guy that they carry

19:53

with confidence and as a cost -controlled

19:55

player at the position and on day three,

19:57

you're kind of in the point where

19:59

you're expected return on investment for those

20:01

picks is diminished automatically just because of

20:03

where you're at in the draft. So

20:06

having somebody who has some traits that you

20:08

like and you want to get in house

20:10

makes all the sense in the world to

20:12

me. So there's a part of me that

20:14

says, hey, find the needle moving players because

20:16

they will find their way on the field

20:18

early. And then like

20:20

defensive tackle, you're going to need more

20:23

than one body there. So draft

20:25

for me on day three and get

20:27

a player that's a role or

20:29

skill specific player, whether that's an Annias

20:31

Peebles as a penetration. type

20:33

player or an Nazir stackhouse as a gap control

20:35

kind of player on the interior. Like, and, and

20:37

there's a bunch of examples of those kinds of

20:39

players from top to bottom. Yeah, especially when you,

20:41

when you factor in, you know, to your point,

20:44

the competition come training camp, like these are guys

20:46

that could be carving out roles as 200, 300

20:48

snap takers, like we saw last year with the

20:50

concept of. You know, tier tart, Jonathan Harris, Neville

20:52

Galamore, all the guys they brought in to kind

20:54

of fill out those roles. And those guys didn't

20:56

wind up making the team. And you, you wind

20:58

up going bonito Jones to Sean hand as your

21:00

kind of rotational pieces there. And, you know, when

21:02

I look at this part of the draft, like

21:05

to your point, we have the, you know, three

21:07

of the 10 picks from the top 100, but

21:09

seven picks on day three. That's a good time

21:11

to, to like, Hey, I liked a couple of

21:13

these guys. Let's just get them both in here

21:15

and have them compete in the best man wins,

21:17

right? It's kind of how you build that competition

21:19

environment and get the best. team on the field,

21:21

I guess. So, okay, that's

21:23

picks. That's in the fourth round range. We kind of

21:26

move here into the fifth round here. And I

21:28

think this is where you start, at least on your

21:30

board, entertain the idea of a position we have

21:32

not talked about yet in the quarterback spot. Which

21:34

guy of these quarterbacks, Kyle, and where

21:36

would they go? Do you think is the

21:38

best fit for a Dolphins developmental piece

21:40

behind two of the starter and Zach Wilson

21:42

the backup? Yeah, I

21:45

think Kyle McCord from Syracuse

21:47

is the best stylistic

21:49

player. The question is, does

21:51

he sneak into the top

21:53

100? Could you get

21:55

him at 116? I don't know that

21:57

you'd see him get into the picks in the

21:59

150s that Miami currently scheduled to pick. I

22:02

think he's the

22:04

best parallel player. I

22:07

do like Will Howard from

22:09

Ohio State a ton. And

22:12

what I like about Will other

22:14

than there's some mobility and size and

22:17

arm strength there. He had

22:19

a willingness this year to let and develop

22:21

chemistry with his receivers and let those

22:23

guys go make plays down the field. And

22:25

when you're not a precision oriented backup

22:27

court or when you're not a precision oriented

22:29

starter where the scheme is tailored for

22:31

you, if you're going to get a backup

22:33

that's going to go in there and

22:35

they're going to say, hey, I'm going to

22:37

trust my really talented wide receivers to

22:39

go make plays on the ball and give

22:41

them a chance. I

22:43

think that's a better world to live

22:45

in than to say, I

22:48

don't see it cleanly. I'm not going to

22:50

throw it and I'm going to take negative place.

22:54

So I think will and

22:56

wills got a great demeanor.

22:58

If you if you're a

23:00

vibes oriented scout and you

23:02

like a guy's like the

23:04

aura as the kids say,

23:06

I think wills will really

23:08

carries himself impressively. Dylan

23:11

Gabriel obviously as a left -hander.

23:14

There's some. benefits to having

23:16

another left -hander in the scheme when the starter is

23:18

oriented to be a left -hander and how that works.

23:20

It might make Daniels talked about that at length. And

23:23

even if you wanted to wait till later, a

23:25

little later, like one of these picks in the

23:28

seventh round, I really like Cam

23:30

Miller from North Dakota State. I

23:32

think he's a gamer

23:34

type, has some

23:37

mobility, has enough arm

23:39

strength. He's not going to blow you away with his

23:41

arm, but Man, he operated that offense

23:43

in North Dakota State at a pretty high level.

23:45

So just talking about what that, that third

23:48

quarterback, if he were to be drafted looks

23:50

like for the Dolphins in terms of his

23:52

like arrive and developmental plan. Like we've had

23:54

guys in the past that were, you know,

23:56

long shots to, to make a roster, right?

23:58

James Blackman comes to mind as a guy,

24:00

the Florida state quarterback that was out here

24:02

for a while and had a chance. Who

24:05

was the guy last year? I forget his

24:07

name. Jeez. Yeah.

24:09

I guess we'll come back to that at some

24:11

point later, but essentially they were guys that you, you

24:13

kind of had a feeling like he's trying to

24:15

get reps, you know, for the next team almost because

24:17

there's, there's depth here at this position. But if

24:19

you draft a guy in this range and it is

24:21

a Will Howard or it is a Kyle McCord

24:24

or even someone on, on, you know, in the seventh

24:26

round, what does it look like for that player

24:28

to come here? When you, like two was the entrenched

24:30

starter, obviously Zach Wilson's being paid and will be

24:32

the backup, but most likely unless, you know, it's a

24:34

crazy camp for the rookie. What does

24:36

it look like for that rookie who's

24:38

coming here basically trying to just like,

24:40

you know, drink through a fire hose

24:42

of NFL law offense and getting ready

24:44

for the season? Yeah. Um, I think

24:47

part of that is, is the benefits

24:49

and you've got a little bit of

24:51

a look at this with quit Bell

24:53

during hard knocks. Yeah. But a young

24:55

player that can be on the run,

24:57

the look squad, you get reps that

24:59

way too. Right. So by running the

25:01

opposing team stuff on installs throughout the

25:03

week, um, I

25:06

don't think it's super

25:08

sustainable for the Dolphins to

25:10

have a second quarterback

25:12

contract with Tua and then

25:14

continue to pay veteran

25:16

backup quarterbacks like in the

25:18

ballpark. So you're looking

25:20

to almost kind of have

25:22

a succession in place

25:24

for Zach Wilson. And I

25:26

know that they deferred some of the

25:28

cap commitments from that year into future years

25:31

where If they were to sign Zach

25:33

Wilson to an extension, if things go really

25:35

well, or if he has to play

25:37

and he plays well and they want to

25:39

go that direction, they have

25:41

some flexibility there. But

25:44

to invent the exact Wilson was the

25:46

second biggest contract that dolphins gave out

25:48

in free agency. So when

25:50

you look at it like that, you really

25:52

got to sit here and ask yourself, like,

25:54

how sustainable is that? And unfortunately, with some

25:56

of the durability stuff, that's the world that

25:59

the dolphins have to live in right now.

26:01

But I think you would be far better

26:03

suited looking for one or two other players

26:05

elsewhere on the roster that have a lot

26:07

of positional versatility so that you have the

26:09

extra spot on the 53 and then get

26:11

that other player in and then you kind

26:13

of have a year to decide like, hey,

26:15

we saw how he took the offense. We

26:18

don't have to pay another veteran quarterback because

26:20

this guy grasped our offense and executed what

26:22

we asked him to execute throughout the course

26:24

of the season. So it's it's more of

26:26

like because oftentimes I feel like fans like

26:28

and the Joe Milton example will be the

26:30

one that you can use for this fans

26:32

of like if you take a quarterback and

26:34

he plays well like you can trade him

26:37

for high draft picks. It's like You know,

26:39

maybe once upon a time, but like people

26:41

aren't coming up for second round draft picks

26:43

for AJ Feely anymore. That's just not happening

26:45

anymore. So like I feel like the the

26:47

investment of it is like for future of

26:49

your own, you're cashing out the ROI down

26:51

the road, hopefully on your own in the

26:53

future. Good stuff there, Kyle. Let's go

26:56

ahead and finish this segment with this. You've

26:58

you sent me so many clips of guys

27:00

that I'm like, oh, we're watching, you know,

27:02

Marshall tape today or watching Elon tape today,

27:04

whatever it might be. Those are two pretty

27:06

different schools, but Give me some of the

27:08

guys that stood out to you that you

27:10

think could be available beyond that fifth round,

27:12

day three prospects, maybe even in that fifth

27:14

round as well. But just talk to me

27:17

about some of the sleepers that you have

27:19

as favorites. Yeah, I'll go with

27:21

the one I most recently was blowing your

27:23

phone up about, which is JJ Roberts from Marshall.

27:27

He's got a ton of pop.

27:29

He's got some good striking ability

27:31

as a tackler. He's got a

27:33

lot of range. He can

27:35

be that guy that plays high in the post, but

27:38

he can fit the run. I

27:40

think he's somebody who will benefit

27:42

from being a little bit more

27:44

calculated with some of his angles

27:46

when he runs from death to

27:48

support the run. There's some times

27:50

where that gets the better of

27:52

him. And he's a former corner

27:54

from Wake Forest. So really

27:56

only started playing safety once he got

27:58

to Marshall two years ago. So you

28:01

see some transitional stuff with him where

28:03

I think he can see things faster and

28:06

that should come with more reps in time.

28:08

And the context that he has as a

28:10

player who really only made that switch recently,

28:12

gives you a little bit of context as

28:14

to why maybe he's not seeing it as

28:16

fast as he could if he was going

28:18

to make a bunch more plays on the

28:20

football. So players like that, players that had

28:22

a position change late in their career, and

28:24

it's kind of allowed them to amplify some

28:26

more of their traits, but you're looking for

28:28

them to, hey, let's Can you level up

28:31

your game? Can you see things faster? Can

28:33

you jump that route a little quicker? Can

28:35

you actually cut that route and send the

28:37

nuts just meeting the ball at the catch

28:39

point? Like, that's the kind of story

28:41

where you see why it is the way

28:43

it is and say, okay, I think this guy

28:45

has another gear to tap into with this

28:47

position that he's playing now. I love it, man.

28:49

He was, to your point, fun to watch,

28:51

brought a lot of that juice, checks a lot

28:53

of the boxes you talked about. Uh, in

28:55

terms of getting more athletic, getting more kind of

28:57

just dogs on defense and being faster, more

28:59

athletic, a little bit more physical and violent. Good

29:02

stuff all around. Let's take our last break

29:04

right there. Come back on the other side and

29:06

pay it off. We'll go ahead and have

29:08

Kyle make picks, uh, beyond the first round. We

29:10

already have today, Baron from Texas slotted into

29:12

that spot for Kyle on his mock draft here.

29:14

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29:44

the time has come. The next time

29:46

you hear from me on the show,

29:48

we'll be talking about a first round

29:50

draft pick. And Kyle, I'm going to

29:52

give you some liberties here to adjust

29:54

as you see fit. You're the one

29:56

that's been just inundated in this stuff

29:58

for the last several months and really

30:00

for the last decade plus with draft

30:02

content. But I will give you the

30:04

liberty to See how the board

30:06

shakes out in terms of how you have it

30:08

graded to make the picks that you feel are

30:10

possibly justifiable with that player making it there. So

30:13

the floor is yours. Let's go ahead and just

30:15

get out of the way. We already talked about

30:17

today, Baron, a lot on yesterday's podcast. So

30:19

that's, that's the pick at 13, correct? Yes.

30:21

Okay. Cool. So we're done there. Pick 13

30:23

done cornerback in the bag at pick 48.

30:25

Give me the guy that you're looking at

30:27

here that could be on the board for

30:29

us. Yeah. So my heart is telling me

30:32

to pick out for Collins and go defensive

30:34

tackle. But I'm not going to do that.

30:37

I am going and the reason

30:39

why is as I'm looking

30:41

at the horizontal board and I

30:43

count names at defensive tackle

30:45

that I see in rounds three

30:47

and rounds four. I have

30:49

one, two, three, four, five, six,

30:52

seven, eight, nine, 10, 11,

30:54

12. I have 12 names in

30:56

rounds three and four at

30:58

defensive tackle. If I look,

31:00

I have one name, maybe two

31:02

in the third round. at offensive

31:04

guard. So

31:07

the discrepancy that exists between

31:09

what should be available

31:11

even if a run happens

31:13

at defensive tackle, I

31:15

should still like my options

31:17

more at 98 there. And

31:20

you're getting into role specific players.

31:22

You get undersized penetration guys. You get

31:24

run stuffers that are brick houses

31:26

that are hard to move. You can

31:28

find them. So I'm going to

31:30

go with Jonah Savinaya. Uh, the offensive

31:32

lineman from Arizona pick number 48. I

31:34

think that that's a big time. Needle mover

31:36

him and Austin Jackson play next to each other.

31:39

Oh my goodness. I

31:41

love it, man. I love that. I love the

31:43

first two round picks you made already. Like this

31:45

football team has already gotten better based upon your

31:47

draft. And this is why horizontal boards matter. We

31:49

just, we just talked about this and it already

31:51

pays off as you go ahead and take a

31:53

look at yours and say, I have a detackle

31:55

here. I love, but I know I've got someone

31:58

later on in the draft that I could also,

32:00

you know, learn to love or maybe like a

32:02

little bit. And it gets me a guard that

32:04

I love where I don't have that option later

32:06

on. And I guess my follow up question would

32:08

be this, Kyle, because you talk about, you know,

32:10

getting some role specific players, a defensive tackle position,

32:13

you know, like. We see the depth of

32:15

defensive tackle behind Zach and Bonito Jones

32:17

is needing bodies. But because you have Zach,

32:19

does that kind of change the way

32:21

you view that? Because if you were, you

32:23

know, maybe you had the, like the

32:25

safety group where it's like deeper than it

32:27

is top heavy. Maybe you do inject

32:29

that with a first round pick. But because

32:31

you have Zach Sealer who can play

32:33

900 snaps at four positions, does that change

32:35

the way you view the defensive tackle

32:38

need because he's so good? Yeah.

32:40

And I think, you know, Kolas Campbell

32:42

was on a snap count last year.

32:44

And then years before that it was

32:46

Christian Wilkins was playing 900 snaps and

32:48

Zach was playing 850 and then they

32:50

carried four and it was like Ray

32:52

Juan Davis was the nose that came

32:54

in and you had one of the

32:56

backup guy who played like 10 snaps

32:58

a game. So life is a little

33:00

different but still having a volume snap

33:02

player like a Zach Sealer, I certainly

33:04

think changes the perspective there quite a

33:06

bit. So I am going

33:08

to go with Savi Naya expecting

33:10

that there's going to be a name

33:12

there and I, I know what

33:14

I'm eyeing for pick number 98 and

33:16

it's, it's going to help that

33:19

group on the defensive front. Okay.

33:21

Well, that's a change from the previous discussion. We

33:23

talked about this as a good spot being a

33:25

good spot for a safety. So sounds like we're

33:27

going back to defensive tackle at pick 98. Yeah.

33:29

So we're going to go, it's going to be

33:31

today, Baron at 13. It's going

33:33

to be Jonah Savina at 48. And then I'm

33:35

going to go with Jordan Phillips, defensive tackle

33:37

for Maryland. Not, not that

33:39

Jordan Phillips, buddy. Relax. It's

33:42

This is one of the youngest players

33:44

in the draft. His red shirt software that

33:46

declared and went to the shrine and

33:48

has a ton of athletic potential. But

33:51

getting to see him up close in the shrine, he

33:53

is built. He's

33:56

built like a three hundred and ten pound to show on

33:58

hand. We're just very

34:00

dense, top to bottom, very thick

34:02

kind of frame. I

34:04

think he can play some odd front end. And

34:06

I think he can play in the A gaps

34:08

for you as well as as an early down

34:10

guy. I love it. So I think we've made

34:12

the football team better for the first three picks.

34:14

I think all three of those guys, I think

34:16

you've got two surefire stars in your first two

34:18

picks. I think the third pick is going to

34:20

be a heavy rotational guy as well. So you've

34:22

done a great job so far. How about as

34:24

we get on to day three here early in

34:26

the third day, pick 116, where we going? So

34:30

116, I

34:32

am going to stay at defensive

34:34

tackle. And I'm going

34:36

to draft Ty Robinson from Nebraska. He

34:40

is First

34:42

team all motor try hard his tape

34:44

is awesome. He's not a big time

34:46

pass rusher, but he's a big time

34:48

like line of scrimmage compression player But

34:51

I think with the dolphins and their

34:53

their rest of their pass rush group

34:55

between Zach and the guys that they

34:57

have on the edge and what Jordan

34:59

Brooks Hasen can bring to the table

35:01

and now you add Willy gay into

35:03

that mix like I think you have

35:05

enough other dynamic pieces where I'm not

35:07

really sweating like, hey, we need two

35:09

pass rusher types of defensive tackle. So

35:11

I'm going to double dip and go

35:14

Jordan Phillips and Ty Robinson with 98

35:16

and 116 to kind of help out

35:18

the interior defensive line. There's

35:20

your defensive tackle double dip in your

35:22

depth of that position. Kyle, we've

35:24

got about four minutes left. Let's go

35:26

ahead and get through picks 135

35:28

and 135 and 155 here if you

35:30

can. All right. So 135. I

35:34

am going to go

35:36

with, let's go to

35:39

safety here. Let's

35:41

go Billy Bowman from Oklahoma. I love

35:43

the strap so much. So

35:45

there's some concern about the tackling.

35:47

It's 25 % career mistackle rate.

35:49

But the ability to make

35:52

plays on the ball and coverage,

35:54

I think it's a great player

35:56

to add any man he

35:58

plays super chippy. He's got a

36:00

big time itch too. So

36:03

I like that a lot. I

36:05

think that's that helps the

36:07

tackling down the road. So that's

36:09

that leaves 150 and 155

36:11

Yes, I will go with Tight

36:13

end Jalen Conyers from Texas

36:15

Tech at 150. This is

36:17

if you miss Tyler Warren He does some

36:19

similar things at Texas Tech. He was

36:21

at Arizona State They have a direct snap

36:23

package for him used to be a

36:25

high school quarterback like really good athlete I

36:27

think it might make Daniel could get

36:29

a lot of run out of him And

36:32

then I will go with the quarterback. I'll go

36:34

Dylan Gabriel from Oregon at 155. There you go.

36:36

The needs are checking off the list. You got

36:38

your developmental quarterback. You got your big tight end

36:40

there. Give me your three picks on date on

36:42

the seventh round, Kyle. And I'm sure there's a

36:44

receiver here that I'm looking at that you like

36:46

a lot. I'm

36:48

going to go Jackson Meeks with one of those

36:51

picks, a big -bodied wide receiver

36:53

from Syracuse. So I'll add him

36:55

into the mix. I

36:57

will add... Let's

37:00

go Nazir Stackhouse nose tackle true nose

37:03

tackle from Georgia. I think that's a it's

37:05

a low volume snap taker, but you

37:07

know, you really didn't get that with either

37:09

of the other two players are a

37:11

little bit more hybrid type players. And

37:15

then the last pick. I'll

37:19

go I'll go back to the

37:21

offensive line and draft Connor Colby from

37:23

Iowa, who is a tailor made

37:25

wide zone type of player to compete

37:28

for a roster spot. You're

37:30

getting a guy that fits the system in

37:32

that spot that you can develop long term.

37:34

So I love that today Baron Jonah Savinaya

37:36

Jordan Phillips tie Robinson you're back -to -back defensive

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tackle safety Billy Bowman, Jr. Tied and Jalen

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con years quarterback Dylan Gabriel wide receiver Jackson

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Meeks We come back for a third defensive

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tackle and nose tackle in his ears tack

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house and Connor Colby out of Iowa Kyle

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You killed it man. We appreciate your time.

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We have one minute left in the show.

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So I'll go ahead and get you out

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of here Have you seen the video of

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Chris Fowler taking on the like the the

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throat? Uh, regiment that go

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take one of those, rest

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up that voice, my friend. You've been, you've

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recorded probably what 40 ,000 words worth of content

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today. So appreciate your time at Kyle crabs on

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social locked on dolphins podcast touchdown Miami locked

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on NFL scouting as well as the 33rd team

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draft league. Kyle, you're the man. Appreciate you

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dude. Thanks Travis. And away he goes and away

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we go until Thursday night. We'll hear from

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you guys or you will hear from me rather.

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I should say after the dolphins make their

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pick, the whole night comes to an end. We'll

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have coverage on pick 13. We'll have coverage

38:28

on the McDaniel Greer joint press conference after the

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first round is over and take a look

38:32

at round two on Friday. We'll go over the

38:34

second and third round pick the press conference

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again and do the same thing for day three

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and run it back on day three. Busy

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week of podcast here. We're going to have all

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the draft picks on the show as well.

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So plenty of content coming your way here, covering

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all these players. all these picks as we

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take you right into OTAs, into the summer, into

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training camp, and into the regular season. But

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