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C .D. Madea. It's
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10 minutes to five o 'clock now.
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Statements issued by the African National
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Congress and the DA confirm that
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they have held a meeting. They
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don't say a great deal more
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than that. The DA
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delegation led by the
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party leader John Stearnhason on
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the ANC side, the
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delegation led by Secretary General
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Figele Mbalula. We'll
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talk after five with with
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Natasha Murray and
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political analyst and
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journalist at Business Day
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about her take on what appears
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to be a kind of an as
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-you -were, but things always come up
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in talks. We're hoping that she managed
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to hear more than we're getting
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from those statements. That's coming up a
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little bit later. Nine minutes to
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five. Which
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means it's that time of the
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week when we engage in some
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conversations about music with Randall Abrams.
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Randall always picks a song, we
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call it Randall's One Song, and
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talks about the music, what he
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likes about it, and of course,
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some of the really interesting things
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involved, either in its reception or
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its making or both. Randall, a
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very good afternoon to you. Welcome
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back. Thank you, John.
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How are you? Yeah, doing well. Thanks and you? Good
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good Randall you often talk
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about collaborations and and
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you know either collaborations across
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genres or collaborations across countries
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this one really is across
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continents I'm looking at the
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artist credited on this and
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you're gonna tell us more
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about them a vocalist from
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Botswana a guitar player from
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Congo from the Congo another
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guitar player from Brazil we've
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got an artist sadly who's
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passed away from Cape Town
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and we've got people in
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Brooklyn in the United States.
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What did you pick and tell us about why
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you chose them? So
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the first thing, John, and let's talk
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about the reason for the collaboration. The name
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of the group is Taba, and
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the sounds are South African, but
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obviously by way of a lot
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of collaboration. And it's
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a rather unfortunate story. Their
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first album came out in
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2020. Eyes rest their feet.
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And unfortunately, on the
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release of the album, the vocalist
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at the time, Koussi Serimani, sadly
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passed away. And the
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producer, Gabriel Sir, was then
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left with kind of musical fragments
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that he believed he should
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work with and develop. And
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as I say, he was
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able to put together a
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list of Stuller international cast
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in order to get their
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new record together. The
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vocalist in question on the song
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is called Pale Hearts. is Lelisa
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Mb also had a great album
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art in 2024 but you know when
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we think about the internet and
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we think about what it can do
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we forget that what it's also
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allowed musicians to do is to have
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this form of collaboration where you
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can have you know guitar players from
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the continent and then a drummer
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or a bass player from Europe or
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the States are being able to
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you know to have similar musical tastes
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and craft something that is so
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wonderful. And again, I
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think I've said this many a
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time. People who know music from
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the 60s or 70s or when
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they grew up in the 80s
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or These will always say, oh,
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there's nothing out there that's that
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great. But let me assure you,
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I honestly believe this whole album and
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the track Pale Hearts is really,
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to my mind, as good as it
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gets. And it's got
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that framing, as I say, that
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it's maintained you degree of
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what I would call South Africanness,
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but it certainly, you know,
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in scope, in its kind of
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musical vision, it's taken on board
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a lot of very, very modern
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sounds from across the world. So
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let's take a listen then. The
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song is called Pale Hearts. The
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album is called December. Ceddi Montole
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and the collaboration is a group
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of artists who call themselves Taba.
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Enjoy this. Hearts"]
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There are rules
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on both
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sides of the
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sea There
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are rules on
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both sides the
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sea No
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one's worth the
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time we live in
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I was blind
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but you
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deserve to be
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seen There
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are signs in the
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sea that you can go
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And I'm particularly enjoying the bass on
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that, if you're a fan of the
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bass, New Yorker Jonathan Granhoff responsible for
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that. Randall, you seem to
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be suggesting, and I hope I've
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understood it right, that modern music
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making in the era of connectivity,
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like the one we currently enjoy,
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can have artists all over the
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world producing their stuff in their
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own studio space while never actually
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getting together physically in a recording
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space at all. Is that what
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happened here? Yeah,
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to a large degree, this is
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what happened here. As I said,
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quite sadly, as I
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said, Kusi's ceremony passed
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away. But his vocals
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are actually featured on eight of the
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tracks on the album. And
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then Gabriel went out and got as
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the same musicians from around the
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world to kind of full everything out
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and complete the record. But yes,
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that is the case. A lot of
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the work that is done not
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only on this album, but on many
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albums sees artists in bedroom studios. you
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know, putting, laying down their parts and sending
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out to one another. And there could even
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be a situation, we don't know that it's
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the case of this record, but certainly in
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the case of a lot of albums where
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three bass players may have supplied a bass
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line. And then the
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producer chose one of them. It's
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quite a different way of music making.
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It's quite a different feel And
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I know there are lots of people
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who long for the days of, you know,
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being able to
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think about, you know, a band
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like let's say the Beatles or
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the Motown Studio musicians in the
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studio together collaborating. don't
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think one is better than the
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other. I don't know if
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story that the Beatles almost recorded
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at Stacks, but unfortunately it got
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to the press and it didn't
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happen. If they had this
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level of technology, you know,
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maybe you would have heard a James
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Jameson bassline on a on a
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Beatles song and a Paul McCartney
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bassline on a Stacks song. Yeah, something
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to consider. Something to consider and
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look forward to as we will look
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forward to the next edition of
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Randall's One Song on 702 Drive to
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Randall Abrams.
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