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Welcome everyone to another episode

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of Dynamics Corner . I'm

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your OKS co-host , chris .

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And this is Brad . This episode was recorded

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on November 15th 2024

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. Chris , chris , chris , welcome

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to the world's OKS

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. Episode of

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the podcast .

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And I'm okay with that .

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And I'm okay with that too , and

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who else is also okay with

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it is the amazing guest that we had the opportunity to

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speak with today , mr Sean Doerr

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. Hey

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Good afternoon , look

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who it is . Are

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you there ? I'm here , hello . Hello

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how are you doing ?

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Did you just knock ?

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Did you knock on the door like you wanted to come in .

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You were letting me in you gotta , let me in .

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We're letting you in . I'm doing something very

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important , right now you have your Rubik's Cube .

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I just threw my fidget spinner across the room

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. It was frustrating .

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I just threw my fidget spinner across the room .

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It was frustrating .

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Why Was it making you fidgety ? Yeah it was .

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I thought I was supposed to help . I just said help me Depends .

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I used to have a fidget spinner . I'd have it

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somewhere . I used to wear it underneath my hat

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. I'd spin it and put it underneath my hat

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and see how well I did I

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was waiting , so I did well .

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So did you solve the cube .

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Yes , I did sir .

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That's impressive , very

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nice .

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It's a little fun I

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take one with me everywhere .

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Let's add some applause .

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right there it's well-deserved Cue the applause . Oh

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, I guess we're not going with special effects . I

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forgot where that media bar is . We

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had it , but it's gone .

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Post-edit , post-edit , yeah , post edit

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.

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Yes , yes , we have a media soundboard

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that I used to mess with at the beginning , but now

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it's gone , right , well , it's not gone , I

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just don't use it anymore . The

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toy is worn off . How are you doing ?

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I'm doing great better than I deserve . How about you ?

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I'm doing well .

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I like that better than I deserve , you know every

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time I talk with you , it's when you're one of those

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like I don't know what you're going to say and I don't mean that in a bad

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way , because you just always crack me up . So

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it's like you start saying

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something like my favorite is come on , give

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me more . You know , when you say something

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like that . But

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before we get into

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the conversation , would you mind

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telling everyone who's listening a little bit about

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yourself in ?

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the dynamic space vice president at SA Global

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, which is a Microsoft partner , and

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just somebody who likes to have a good time and share what I've

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learned about the space . I'm recently really

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excited about Copilot , but that's maybe

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something we can get into a little later . I have been

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in the space for 25 plus years and

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literally love every minute of it , and

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that's probably what . What

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keeps me motivated the most is I love

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who who is in our space , the people , the

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end users . I love working with Microsoft and

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the technology . And yeah

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, that's a little bit about me . I'm in South Carolina

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, I live in South Carolina and

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I

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like to fish .

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What else Take

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long walks on the beach . No , hold hands in

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the mountains . I don't like to do that .

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You like to fish like lake or

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Lake Salt water , okay

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.

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I spend a lot of time on the lake , whether

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that's cruising

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around on the pontoon or fishing or water

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sporting with my family , but fishing

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is something that I thoroughly enjoy . Don't

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get to do near as much of it as I would like to

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, but that's

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just the reality . Small bass , Largemouth

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bass We've got stripers

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on this lake that I live on , so

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they can get pretty big , but

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generally those are for other people far

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better than I am . I'm catching a large

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amount of bass .

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Can you take us out on the boat ? Yeah , come on . Let's go the

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pontoon See the pontoon

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is the way to go because I see

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these boats , even out in the ocean

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or wherever , and unless

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you have a huge yacht , I

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think a pontoon boat would be great because

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it's flat and it's larger , so you could put

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a table , you could have more people and you don't have

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to like go around the curves and the seats

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and go around .

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It's just like and just coast for us

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old guys , you can do all this stuff . You

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can do all this stuff , you can tube on it .

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You can wakeboard off of it , you can fish , you can just relax .

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I would work off I'd have a nice little desk during the summer many fridays um , where

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I am uh taking calls

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uh , while my , my wife is cruising us

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over to get lunch , or something like that .

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Yeah wow , that's

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awesome . I'm coming to South Carolina .

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The awards are fantastic yeah

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.

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And I would like to say again

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, congratulations for your 2024

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BC All-Star Award

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at Summit . Didn't have the opportunity to

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speak with you since then , but congratulations

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Well-deserved . You're now , I think , an All-Star

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in every category , correct ?

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Well , thanks , brad , not every

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, just two , but two is pretty remarkable

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. Congrats to you as well . We're

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in the same class 2024 , along

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with David Laster Great company

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, that's for certain so

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pretty excited about that , very proud of it , and

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I appreciate you mentioning it Excellent , excellent

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.

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So many things that I wanted to talk with you

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about , and one of them

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may start with one of the sessions

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of yours that I saw at

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Summit , which was

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the Excel tips

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and tricks that you had

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, and

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I thought you did a great presentation

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. And it goes back to the conversation

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you and I had . I'll never forget because

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I say it's the way I speak , but I said it was

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actually a good session and you looked

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at me and you're like well , you're expecting

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it to be bad bar was set clearly

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very , very low , I think no

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, no , no , it's it's . I meant to actually not

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like I was surprised . I really enjoy your sessions

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and I appreciate what

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you do with those quick tips about

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. In this case , it was excel . Um

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, I think it was excel that I caught . I was

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at the business central . No , it's business central quick tips

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. You also had the excel one but the business central

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one I also went to , which I thought was great and

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I thought the dynamic you had was amazing as well . I've

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become a fan of

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the duo presentations

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like the dual , the dual presenters , because

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I think it adds a level of dynamic to

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the presentations where you have

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multiple personalities and going into it um

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and different perspectives

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. Yes , yeah , and

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it was a great session . And how

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did you get into speaking and do you

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still get nervous ?

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Do I still get .

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I know you do a lot of sessions .

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Do I still get nervous ? I

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don't think so . I think I get more

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. I wouldn't say

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it's nerves , I think it's more just my

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own expectations of

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what I'm giving to the community are really

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high and

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I wanted to . And it's not a chase of

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perfection , it's just I want people to find

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value . They're selecting

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, they're paying a lot of money to come

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to the event and they're selecting that time slot

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to come to something that I've put

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together . So I'm always just concerned

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am I giving the right content

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together

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? So I'm always just concerned Am I giving the right content

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? Am I organizing it in a way that people track what it

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is I'm trying to put together for them or with them

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? So not nervous , no

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, I have a fantastic time presenting

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. That's why I keep doing it . That's why

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I do so many , because it's a professional satisfaction for me . I really enjoy

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it . I get a lot . Keep doing it . That's why I do so many , because it's a professional satisfaction

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for me . I really enjoy it . I get a lot

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out of it . I challenge myself

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to learn new things so that I can share new things

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. But knowing that

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folks are motivated or empowered

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to do bigger and better

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things and save time for themselves . I

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get a lot of dopamine out of that . Save

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time for themselves . I get a lot of dopamine out of that and it's a bit personal or selfish in

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a way , but it's a complimentary selfish because I know folks

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are seemingly enjoying it and the

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afterwards you know the

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whole presentation afterwards

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I always feel like you know I put , I

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put , you know , a lot

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of heart and time into it . I usually feel really

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good about it . How I got started

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I

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don't remember specifically , but I remember going

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to a Jeep

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hug up in Seattle , very

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small compared to what things

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are today for the UGs

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, and I saw

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a couple sessions . John

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Lowther I don't know if you fellas know that name , but

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John Lowther was a sequel expert

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in the space on the GP side

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and he was very charismatic and I

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learned a ton from him and I

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always felt like I was leaving there kind

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of motivated to go learn more . And

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so there , there and started some

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of my , my , my desire

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to to kind of help others

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, but my speaking itself Kim Peterson

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, who was in charge of the GPUG

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at the time , had I

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asked a question during a session and

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then toward the end of the session I helped

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answer a question and she was in the session

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and she said you need to come speak

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. It wasn't an ask , it was a tell . And

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I was very nervous

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then . You know what do they call it ? Imposter

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syndrome was

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very , very real . That's still real , especially

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with some of this new tech . But after

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that first time presenting

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I knew it was over for me because

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I had so much fun

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and that

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was 12 years ago maybe or so

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, and that's

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how I got started in

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presenting and

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it just kind of escalated from there . I was an end

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user at the time , I was an end user of escalated

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from there . I was an end user at the time , I was an end user

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, an accountant , a

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business analyst , and that actually is what kind of got me into my consulting career and later on to

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where I am today . So presenting not only gives me a lot of personal satisfaction

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I know it seems to help the community

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but it also has been a blessing

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for my career and my overall

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career satisfaction .

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Is that 2012 ? You were in Seattle

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Because I remember they had

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NavVog up here . We had the same , similar path

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. Then , sean , because I was also an

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end user and I'd answered

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a few questions during or after

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a session and I think it was Dave

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Weiser had come up to me and

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said you should speak . I was like , oh , I'll give it a shot . And then , ever since then

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, I enjoyed . It was Dave Weiser had come up to me and said you should speak . I was like , oh , I'll give it a shot . And then , ever

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since then , I enjoyed it and

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, like you said , it's an imposter syndrome

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. It's like man , what am I doing here ? There's much better

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, smarter people teaching this thing

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, so yeah , that's awesome , it was 2012

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.

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I think you're right , it was 2012 . And

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it was my first one . I think there was like a Vegas

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one right before then and then after maybe

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Tampa and then Reno , some

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order like that . But yeah , that was 2012

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. Yeah , wow .

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That imposter syndrome is real in

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a sense , and I also appreciate

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what you're saying about wanting

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to get the quality or feel like you're presenting

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the quality for the users . It

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is rewarding to present , I find . It find

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and , like you , I feel the same

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. I spend a lot of time putting the content

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together because I know and

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feel the same that people are taking their

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time to watch something that you present

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and also for all these conferences

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they're . They're sacrificing a lot , sometimes monetarily

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, time-wise , you know , taking some time

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away from family or whatever . So to be able to have

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a little fun , I

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try to have a little fun while presenting some information that they

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hopefully can gain something from . You do a great job with these

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quick tip sessions , which I will

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always like , and I'll probably start stealing . I've always

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wanted to do some . I've

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done a couple online like 30 tips in 30 minutes , but now I saw how great you did . I'm

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just going to be Sean Jr . There you go . Just

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call me SJ . Sj , what

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tips do you have for someone that may be

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looking to get into speaking

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?

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Well , I think it's real important to whatever

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you're talking about , whether that's

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you know , we talk about dynamics a

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lot but whatever you're talking about , it

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should be something that's natural and

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that you're passionate about , and that you can

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be yourself . When

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you're trying to be someone different or

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you know , prim and proper or buttoned up

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, and that's not you , if that's you , that's great . But

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when you try to be somebody else

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, it's not the same and it

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doesn't land to

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the audience the way that

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you you hope it would , because they they're there

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for the content but in maybe

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a weird bigger way , they're there for you

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, like you are . Their

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style , like attendees tend

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to gravitate toward individuals and their style

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. So that's my biggest tip is to make

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sure that , no matter what you speak about , that you're able to have

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fun , be . It's something you're passionate

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about and that you can be yourself .

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That's a great tip .

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That is a great tip , uh , and also you

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can be comfortable with yourself , because if you're trying to

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be something else , you get a little more nervous , and

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if you're not passionate or comfortable with the topic

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that , that nervousness will show through too

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. But if you can talk about it naturally

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, with the comfort , I think it's a little bit easier . There's

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so much . You mentioned gp

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. What . What is

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that gp thing ?

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good people good oh

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, there's a good .

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That's a good way to put it so you

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started working with gp

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great Plains back

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in the day 25 years , so I

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think that was back when it was Great Plains prior

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to even the Microsoft acquisition .

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It was . I started Great Plains

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about

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25 years ago at a non-for-profit

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in Pennsylvania and I

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was in the accounting department and they were looking

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for somebody to

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volunteer sort of for this

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AS400 to this other accounting

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software transition and

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I volunteered and

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, as they say , you know , the rest is history . That's really what got

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me hooked into what we do . You know

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helping businesses . You know

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implement ERP solutions

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Because at the time

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the technology

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was really impressive . You

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know accounting software up until that

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point was you

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know black background or green or green background

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, very , very binary feeling

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, bitmap , dot

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matrix printing . You know very old feeling feeling and this was new with windows . And you know

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databases that you could build on and that was very

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exciting . So as an end user there

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, that was pretty

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exciting to be able to . I don't

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know if he has a dog barking or not .

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She's going I don't hear any dogs . I hear it's

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just in your head I hear .

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Is it in my head ? Yeah , that's

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in my head . Uh , no , ups must be

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here or amazon , one of the two , the

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um . It was very rewarding

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and exciting because I didn't know this technology

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and I was given a chance to explore things

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that I wouldn't have been able to explore before

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, like using a sql database

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and writing sql scripts and those kind

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of things . It really wasn't something an

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accountant would ever try to do , and

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here was this kind of career path that was

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maybe that I didn't know

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existed , but it blended the two worlds together

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because I didn't realize my curiosity

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for tech was the way it was until I started

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, until I started actually doing it

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, um , and so I . I

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stayed , you know , as an end user for many

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years and then I ventured off

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, built my own business that I used GP

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Great Plains for as the foundation

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of that business , more

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from the back end and then eventually on

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to other businesses and consulting

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.

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When did you make the transition to Business

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Central ?

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Well , I mean , I guess I'm , I guess I'm

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, I don't know . Let

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me think for a second . I guess if there was a

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time when , maybe

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about 10 years ago , where I

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was feeling a little a

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board may not be the right word , but you know

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, I wanted to , I wanted some new challenge , that I'll

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say that . I wanted a new challenge and

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the organization that I was working for was

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purely gp um

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, you know dynamics , gp at the time

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, and I had decided I wanted to

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stay in this business . You

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know where I'm blending accountancy and business

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consulting with technology . So

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I looked around . I hadn't even heard

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of Navision . Actually , maybe I heard

17:28

of it a little bit , but so

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I started to learn nav , kind

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of on my own .

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Oh yeah , to stop over that , stop over

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it . You stopped over at nav , stopped over .

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And it was a different . You know

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it's a different world . But I started to learn nav

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and I thought you know just kind of . I

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would try to .

17:48

You thought it was better than GP .

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I definitely did not think that . I definitely did not

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think that you know , you're trained

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.

17:54

You do .

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today , though You're trained , you're trained , you

17:57

know . What you know is always going to feel

17:59

better until you know something else

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thoroughly . But I , I did . I

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did learn nav and then one

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day , maybe about a year or two into

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that journey , I was at a , an event

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in anaheim , california , and um

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microsoft came and they presented

18:15

I think they even called it like the new gp

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or something like that , and it was project madeira

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and I remember that

18:22

madeira back in the project green

18:24

project madeira I sat there in that room filled

18:26

with you know 50 , 60 gpers

18:29

, and I saw this on the screen and I was like holy

18:31

cow , I know what that

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is and that's nav

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. and I felt like in

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this moment like wow , did I , did

18:40

I stumble upon something great here by kind

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of getting myself a head start into

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Nav as a GP person ? Certainly

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the Nav people already knew

18:50

this product , so

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it was just good fortune . I think it wasn't planned . I'd

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like to say it was planned , but it wasn't . And

18:57

that is where I really started . Once

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it became aware

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that Microsoft was putting Project Madeira

19:03

out and Net and a vision in the cloud

19:05

or whatever Microsoft Finance , whatever

19:08

they called it at the time , my

19:10

employer at the time was welcoming that

19:12

change . So it was kind of like I could . I

19:14

could step out from the dark and and

19:17

say I know a little bit about this and we

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built a nav . You know , then nav

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practice along with it . Excellent

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, that's probably about eight years ago , I think .

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So are you still working with GP today

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, or are you primarily Business Central ?

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Well , we certainly have . I

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certainly work with businesses who are using GP

19:35

. At

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the business that I work at , sa Global , we

19:40

have a GP practice and we've

19:42

got a GP customer base and we also have a separate

19:44

practice for Business Central with

19:46

the Business Central customer base . So we

19:48

definitely support GPs often

19:51

in the future , as long as they find it valuable , but

19:54

we're also , you know , giving them the

19:56

education and the exposure to what Business

19:59

Central is like , because it's a remarkable tool , as you both

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know .

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Oh , business Central . It's a remarkable tool , as you both know . Oh

20:04

, business Central . People think I'm in a cult when

20:07

I talk about Business Central and the community and

20:09

how great it is . You're in some

20:11

sort of cult or something I'm like . No , I'm just

20:13

, I'm like you . I

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haven't switched products , but I made a career out of working with Navision whatever name you want

20:22

to give it up to Business Central . But as we're talking about your journey from GP to Business Central

20:24

and you have the opportunity to work with customers from both

20:26

GP and Business

20:28

Central technologies , obviously

20:31

everybody's aware of the announcement that Microsoft made

20:33

just prior to Summit in

20:35

October of 2024 about

20:38

the future of business , excuse me , about

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the future of GP , the future

20:42

of Business Central .

20:43

Careful careful .

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Well , they also make announcements about the future of gp , the future of business central great

20:46

, no . Well , they also make announcements about the future of business

20:48

central being amazing and everything that they're going to add

20:50

to it . But those customers

20:53

that you know I ask this

20:55

question often , but I I like to to ask

20:57

it from many different uh sources . I

20:59

guess you could say that work with both GP

21:01

and business central . A

21:04

customer that's looking , now

21:06

that they they realize that GP

21:08

does have a horizon for

21:10

when the support for will end for

21:13

it with the updates and such

21:15

, not necessarily wouldn't be able to use it still

21:17

. But just , you know the there

21:19

is clear literature

21:21

now saying , when you know basically

21:24

GP is going to die , I'll just

21:26

come out and say it . I won't try to be nice , I'll be authentic

21:28

, like you say . End of the line , end

21:30

of life , goodbye . What

21:34

advice do you

21:36

give or would you give to someone that has GP

21:38

and they're looking to go for their next product

21:41

? Is it an easy ? You

21:43

know ? I ask , like , how is

21:45

the line from GP to Business Central

21:47

?

21:49

Well , the advice I would give folks is

21:51

I think it's great that Microsoft

21:53

has committed to a transition

21:56

date , to an end of life date

21:58

. It draws a thick line in the sand and

22:01

it takes away any kind of confusion

22:03

or other ways that you can kind of say

22:06

that message . It is real , it's . The

22:09

reality is that microsoft will stop

22:11

supporting it , um , in a major way , in

22:13

2029 , september 2029

22:16

, and with

22:18

that , I wonder if I'll still be here then yeah

22:20

, yeah I

22:22

mean that's .

22:22

You're tired about that's . Five more years I'll be

22:24

.

22:27

You'll be here .

22:28

I'll be at Costco . You'll be at Costco .

22:32

Well , I'll come by and see

22:34

you on Sunday . My

22:40

advice to people , to businesses , is to start your planning process immediately , if

22:42

you haven't already . The urgency that you have is

22:44

to start planning . The urgency isn't to

22:46

get off GP , but as

22:48

a business , you really have to look at this as an

22:50

investment , a capital expenditure . This

22:52

is something that you're going to be trying to preparing for

22:55

the future and , just like you've invested in GP

22:57

, you now have to choose a new product

22:59

to invest in , and when we

23:01

look at the plethora of

23:03

options out there in the space , I

23:05

think to me it's a little bit of a no-brainer

23:08

, because I happen to believe

23:10

in the Microsoft messaging

23:12

and the Microsoft stack . I think when

23:14

we look at options out there , microsoft's

23:16

interoperability is the key

23:18

to a connected business strategy

23:20

for the future . So that's

23:22

my advice is to look at your options

23:25

, but to start with Business Central . If you're a Microsoft

23:27

shop and I think there's definitely

23:29

good reasons for being one Business

23:32

Central is a very mature

23:34

, very robust accounting

23:37

software , erp software , with

23:39

all the hooks into

23:42

the entire Microsoft stack

23:44

. So you are , in a way

23:46

, following a future-proof

23:48

plan , and I think

23:50

that that's what people organizations really

23:53

need to do At some point not

23:55

too long ago , we took this specific

23:58

shift from

24:00

annual kind

24:02

of maintenance or

24:05

renewals to subscription . The whole

24:07

world went to a subscription model . Not

24:10

that we're obligated to do so , we just seemingly

24:12

elect to do so . And then businesses have built

24:15

their revenue streams around it and even you

24:17

know , valuations are driven based upon

24:20

how much of that monthly RMR you have

24:22

, how much of that monthly RMR you have . In

24:24

this way , by going into Business Central

24:27

, your

24:36

predictability on what your expenditures are over time is relatively static and you

24:38

have the time so you have about

24:41

five years to kind of build that nest egg for this

24:43

investment . As you make the decision

24:45

of when you're going to go , whether that's five

24:48

years or three years , some folks you know we're working

24:50

with businesses today who are , who quickly

24:52

picked up the phone and said , ok , microsoft

24:54

said it's time we're going to , we're

24:56

going to , let's start doing discovery . So you know we've

24:58

got three right now who are , who are in the

25:00

process of moving , who weren't before the announcement

25:03

. So there's definitely influence from Microsoft

25:05

in that way and Microsoft

25:07

being the super small company that they are , they

25:10

have a lot of influence .

25:11

Five years sounds like you have a long time , but

25:13

in

25:16

reality it can sneak up on you

25:18

. So at least to start planning is

25:20

important , right , it doesn't mean you need to jump

25:22

and be , you know

25:24

, reactive today , but at least you

25:26

have five years to start planning , because it does take

25:28

time to go through a

25:31

migration to a new system , does take time

25:33

for training , does take time for testing . So

25:35

you can't wake up one day and go , oh , I

25:37

want to switch tomorrow because I need to switch tomorrow

25:40

and your team has to be prepared

25:42

.

25:42

There there's always this conversation that the consultancy

25:44

has to be in place and what what this new system

25:47

is going to look like .

25:47

But your internal team has to be prepared for

25:50

this transition , as well absolutely no

25:52

, that's , that's , um , the

25:55

extremely important with

25:57

with gp and business

26:00

central . How how different

26:02

are they ? Like I've , I've always had

26:04

this dream to talk to people who are going through the

26:06

process , or even to see like a left

26:08

and right . You know , in business central we call

26:10

it customers and GP , we call it aliens

26:13

, right . Or you know , we call it

26:15

bank reconciliation and business central

26:17

we call it this and GP . Just

26:19

to help pave the way for someone who

26:21

wants to make a translation , a transition

26:24

, excuse me , have some sort of translation

26:26

so that they can understand that the business processes

26:28

may still be the same , not

26:30

to say that I'm always adverse to mimicking

26:33

exactly what someone does today , because you can also

26:35

take out some efficiencies that you gain

26:37

by using a new system . But how

26:40

similar are the two ?

26:41

Well , the business process is

26:43

the business process

26:46

. It doesn't matter what your tool

26:48

is . So all these tools are designed

26:50

to accommodate the business

26:52

process and the accounting

26:54

methodology , right ? So all

26:56

that vernacular , you know , we don't call them

26:58

aliens anymore , we used to . All

27:00

that is , you know , pretty much the same

27:03

, you know , maybe , maybe

27:05

there are some little differences here and there

27:07

depending on your , your geography

27:09

, where you're from . They're

27:20

the same . There are a few things that you can't do in business

27:22

, very few that I'm aware of , that you can't do in Business Central , that you can do in

27:24

GP , but those things are very low , lowly

27:27

used in GP to begin with , and

27:29

that's probably why they're not part . But if

27:32

you dig into that a little bit further , how

27:34

different are they outside of the vernacular

27:36

, outside the business process ? They're wildly different

27:38

. They look very different

27:40

, they act very different . You have

27:42

different ways of reporting

27:44

data and different ways of filtering

27:47

data and building your lists and those kind of things

27:49

, but in the end it's

27:52

just a database with a UI over

27:54

top of it that's going to accomplish your financial

27:57

systems . The biggest difference

27:59

between the two , I think , is the UI , and

28:02

that in itself is a lot for an end user

28:04

to overcome . You know , if you

28:06

just like now , I'm sure it's the same for Nav , you

28:09

know . But accountants have built their career

28:12

around you , know their

28:15

profession through accountancy

28:17

, but a lot of it comes from their

28:20

ability to use the accounting software

28:22

right . I'm an expert in

28:24

GP . Hire me before somebody who

28:26

only knows QuickBooks . That's a very real

28:28

thing . You know , gp would be the

28:30

number one thing on an accountant's resume

28:32

when they're going for a job interview . So

28:35

that change

28:37

for someone is it's not easy

28:39

. So that change for someone is not

28:41

easy , you

28:44

know , even though the business processes are the same , it does take time and

28:46

it takes a commitment , just like what it does

28:48

for us as consultants to learn new tools

28:50

, it does for those end users . Is

28:52

it achievable ? Yeah , most certainly . In

28:56

some ways you have no choice but to learn the tool

28:58

of choice and it really gets easy if you

29:00

break it down into user scripts or you know

29:02

business process flows . If you look at

29:04

it in a micro level , it's not . It's not that hard

29:06

to pick up . But having a valuable

29:09

consultant who knows how

29:11

to do that , I think that's one of the things

29:13

I take the most pride in for my

29:15

team is we are GP experts

29:17

and BC experts . So when we're moving folks

29:20

into BC we say okay

29:22

, you used to do this in GP this way , this is how

29:24

you do it in Business Central and that really resonates

29:26

with them .

29:28

I think so because that's where they get the comfort , because

29:30

to a user , as you had mentioned

29:32

, it's their livelihood

29:35

. In a sense , because I know my process

29:37

, I know how to do it , I can do it properly . And

29:40

in a sense , because I know my process , I know how to do it , I can do it properly . And now I have to learn something new and I may not do it right

29:42

or do it well . So to be able to have that comfort

29:44

of knowing how

29:47

to translate it , I guess you could say is important

29:50

, and that's what I was always wondering

29:52

, if anything ever exists . I've never used GP . I've

29:54

seen some screens here and there .

30:01

So I really don't know myself uh too much about it . But you know the way I look

30:03

at it too . It's like . It's like driving right , like you know how to drive , um , but you're

30:05

just getting a new car . You know

30:07

, things may have changed a little bit . You got to figure out

30:09

how to turn on the radio and

30:12

and connect your phone you're absolutely right , it's

30:14

a good analogy . Just , you're

30:16

just driving the same way .

30:17

It is , it's , it's's it's funny how that

30:20

works too , because I remember when individuals

30:22

, when you , they made the shift from the vision

30:24

, which was the classic client , over to the

30:26

roll tailored client you can even just say

30:28

Microsoft Dynamics , nav it was one of those things

30:30

like , all new customers loved it . They're like this

30:32

interface is great , it's like office . And

30:34

then all of the Nav , visionision

30:37

, NavVision , the NavVision customers I sound like

30:39

everybody else , the NavVision customers they all

30:41

hated it . They're like oh , I'm so used to this , I'm so

30:43

used to that . But it was the same product , right , with

30:45

more features and functionality . So it goes to show

30:47

that the challenge

30:50

of the new interface Look , chris

30:52

has a dog . Now too , everybody's with

30:54

their dogs over here .

31:00

Yeah , he always shows up from time to time , so I had to mute myself because

31:02

he , would , you know , shake . And yeah , we're just gonna call this the dog pound

31:04

from now on right , it's no longer dynamics

31:07

corner podcast .

31:07

It's like the dog pound everybody just bring your dogs on

31:10

. I'll never bring one on , but you

31:12

know you can bring them on um

31:14

with that . So also you

31:16

have another fancy thing . You have this life hacks

31:18

website . You have so many fancy things for me to talk

31:20

to you about you are fancy . Now

31:24

you're a fancy man with a pontoon boat . You

31:26

really should have a celebration

31:28

in South Carolina where

31:30

we can all go out on your boat by

31:33

the way . Plan something . We need to have

31:35

an event in that area where we're all in that area , I'd go fishing

31:37

.

31:37

Let's go .

31:38

I would love to go fishing .

31:39

need to have an event in that area , where ?

31:40

we're all in that area fishing let's go . I would love to go fishing , so awesome . Let's go . Do you

31:42

cook , do you do you catch and release , or do you eat ?

31:43

I'm catching , release , um , there's

31:46

, there's a lot of boats on the lake and I just don't trust

31:48

the , the , uh , the mercury content

31:50

or the oil , you know , like the water , I'm a little

31:52

apprehensive there . But catch and

31:54

release and uh , we have a blast . Yeah

31:57

, we have a blast well , that's good

31:59

.

31:59

Well , we have to . Is anything going on in south carolina ?

32:01

I mean next to never , but um , but

32:03

we can , we can , we can make an excuse .

32:05

Charlotte's not too far away I

32:08

see we were just all up in charlotte had I known

32:10

? Had I known then what I know now ? Yeah , I don't

32:12

know if october is a great time .

32:13

We want to do you know , maybe a little more . Uh

32:15

, may , late may , and memorial day is a

32:17

great time .

32:18

Uh , early june springtime yeah

32:21

, see , they need to do a like what's in may , dynamics

32:24

, con dynamics , con needs to go to south

32:26

carolina in may . We'll talk

32:28

that way we can just make a , we

32:30

can make a pit stop , uh , at

32:32

sean's house there we go , or sean's boat

32:34

lake . Count me in , though

32:36

if it does show up in south carolina

32:39

, just reserve me a spot on

32:41

that boat . There you go . Uh , you , you

32:43

also have a website as well

32:45

. You do a lot , right , like I said , a lot of fancy

32:47

things . You have a website , and I

32:49

love your little man

32:52

that you had at summit oh

32:54

, the world's okayest sean .

32:56

Yeah , yes , yes , what's the world's okayest ?

32:58

sean yeah , yes , yes . What's

33:00

the world's okayest ? Sean .

33:03

And tell me a little bit about the website that you have . Well , lifehacks365

33:06

, that's the website , lifehacks365.com . That's kind

33:08

of all the session . Generally , all the sessions

33:10

are trying to be a bit more

33:13

of small bits of bursts of information

33:15

and the idea was that I would write

33:17

about these tips . You know , maybe life

33:19

hack number three was this and I would present

33:21

about it in the session and give folks

33:24

kind of an easy on some old GP stuff

33:26

and some Business Central stuff

33:28

. I

33:41

remember writing my first Business Central blog in

33:43

the middle of a Business Central boot camp . I

33:46

wrote that blog because I was like I can't believe all

33:48

this learning I've done about NAV , which

33:50

told me that there was a limited number

33:52

. It said there was only . You're only allowed to have

33:54

eight dimensions is what I

33:56

was learning . But then in this boot camp I learned that

33:58

the dimensions are unlimited .

34:00

So I wrote about that Um and

34:02

it's still , you should have been paying attention to

34:04

the bootcamp .

34:05

Yeah , I should have been just to let you

34:07

know .

34:07

I was well , you got to jot it down .

34:09

I was paying so much attention I actually went

34:11

to it twice . Um , it was very good

34:13

, um , but it

34:16

is my most uh , my most

34:18

read business central blog . Uh , blog about

34:20

dimensions , because it's a misunderstanding

34:22

that there's a limit to how many . But I

34:25

generally use the Lifehack site now for

34:27

promoting where I'm going to be

34:29

speaking because that's where a lot of the content is coming from

34:31

and sharing videos as well , and

34:33

there's a little carved out little section that

34:35

is called . It's under the co-pilot

34:38

section . They're called the world's okay sean

34:40

and um , the

34:43

world's okay sean is

34:45

um , basically

34:48

my self-deprecating way

34:50

of describing this journey

34:52

that I'm on . I love the

34:54

character and the

34:57

name actually comes . So I

34:59

I asked my family , I I always do

35:01

my intros . You know my professional title , my

35:04

, my hobby title , which is my mvp

35:06

, I think . And then I wanted to say more about

35:08

my family and I was like you

35:10

know what could I use as , like , this description

35:13

for myself ? Like I'm not saying

35:15

you would say this is to my children

35:17

, I'm not saying that I would put on their

35:19

world's greatest dad , because everybody thinks they're the world's

35:21

greatest dad , but what would you ? And

35:23

without missing a beat , my daughter said how

35:25

about world's okayest sean ? And

35:28

I said , okay , that's

35:30

really awesome , um

35:33

, and I'm gonna use it . And so they

35:35

got me a mug that's's

35:38

awesome World's . OK Sean

35:40

.

35:41

That's fantastic .

35:42

But that's the World's OK

35:44

. Sean is the little

35:47

character is made by Copilot . I made that

35:49

guy using Copilot and that's what

35:51

this is all about . That journey is all

35:53

about talking about my journey with Copilot . So

35:56

when I started , the whole

35:58

idea of AI is something I'm very into

36:00

. I'm very excited about it . I'm not

36:02

super nerdy , I don't know how it works

36:04

. It's probably one of the few things in my life that

36:07

I have conceded that I don't need to understand

36:09

how it works because it's just too big for me . But

36:12

I love taking advantage of it and taking

36:14

it to another level and

36:16

I wanted to use CoalPilot . So

36:18

I use AI in my home life for my

36:20

car and in my home , but

36:22

I wanted to use it more at work and it was just seemingly

36:25

overwhelming how to get started to me

36:27

, and that's why I started this

36:29

little journey , just sharing with people how I got

36:31

started , what I'm learning and

36:33

maybe some tips and tricks along the way . I'm doing

36:35

a little podcast called

36:37

Copilot 101 , which is basically the

36:40

very , very low entry information

36:42

for folks that help give

36:44

them a head start when they open up these

36:46

tools , and then I'm

36:48

looking forward to doing more with it because I

36:50

really want to talk more about what

36:53

I see as the benefits of Co-Pilot or

36:55

AI , in the workplace , and I think you

36:58

know this is an indisputable evolution

37:01

that we're in right now with AI , and

37:04

we're all a part of it . So

37:06

there's going to be varying opinions on how you can

37:08

use it in the workplace , and I'm happy to share mine , as

37:10

I see businesses start to try

37:12

to use it , whether that's for teams or even more

37:14

robust things you know . So

37:16

it's pretty exciting . That's

37:25

what that's all about , and I just started about six weeks ago or so and got quite a few fun

37:27

things up my sleeve and some guests along the way to help make it a little more entertaining .

37:29

I I'm curious what , what would be your ? Uh

37:31

? What did you use copilot for ? On your

37:33

personal side of things on , personal

37:36

side .

37:37

So I use ai on my personal side

37:39

like , um well , copilot in

37:41

general . I'm not you , I wouldn't say that I'm using

37:43

copilot for anything on a personal level other

37:46

than image generating . Um

37:48

, you know , with on the designer the designer

37:50

in dally 3 . Okay , um , but

37:52

I'm using ai . You know , um , I'm

37:55

using ai . Well , my car

37:57

and my tesla . Tesla is self-driving , so

37:59

I take advantage of AI there . I

38:02

certainly use AI in my home

38:04

, so predictability or

38:06

results from the weather to change some

38:08

of my IoT stuff , among

38:11

other things . We use a little bit of it in

38:14

our work , but that's increasing . But

38:16

for the most part , coalpilot is just

38:19

for work for me . For the most part , Very

38:22

cool .

38:22

I like the concept of sharing your journey

38:25

because others will go through the same

38:27

process and it doesn't always need

38:29

to be technical . That's one of the things I learned when

38:31

I share information or I have presentations

38:34

or content that somebody's always in the beginning

38:36

. If you're doing something , that's is

38:38

you know , to lack of better

38:40

terms simple , so someone

38:43

will always be at that stage of their journey

38:45

where they need to start , because everybody needs to start somewhere

38:47

. So if nobody puts out , you

38:50

know content that's from the beginning

38:52

and it's always this high tech . You know , overly

38:54

complicated I don't want to say overly complicated , but like detailed

38:58

, technical , yeah

39:02

, complicated , I don't say , over the complicated , but like detailed , technical . Yeah , thank

39:04

you , I can't speak . It's friday , so we're not supposed to record on friday . That's right , we

39:06

made an exception for because I I mess up everything . But yes , because it doesn't

39:09

need to be too technical . And one you have a tesla . That's amazing . Once

39:12

you drive a tesla , I don't think you can ever go back to another

39:14

vehicle . Yeah , yes , it's

39:16

very challenging to go back , and

39:18

even now

39:21

with the fsd and how

39:23

great the fsd is that it's difficult

39:25

to go back . And I can honestly

39:28

say for gas vehicles

39:30

. I can't tell you how many times I've gotten out of a gas

39:32

vehicle . I've gone into the store and forgot to shut it off

39:34

all the time I've

39:36

gone grocery shopping and came out

39:38

my truck was running and I can't believe .

39:40

I'm like , what the heck did I just do ? Um

39:43

, I've also , I've also I've had a few

39:45

near misses in the in my truck

39:47

, um , where I was just expecting

39:49

it to , to make a turn um

39:52

yes and I have to remind myself

39:55

, not in the tesla . My wife bought me a

39:57

little thing for my dash that says this

39:59

is not a tesla . Um , it's

40:01

just because that's funny .

40:03

It sounds like you have a great family

40:05

over there and it sounds like we're

40:07

learning a lot about you , about you know

40:09

the world's okay , sean poke fun at each other for sure

40:11

that the tesla will spoil you

40:13

.

40:14

uh , it's been a journey for sure . I mean , that's

40:16

part of what I was talking about with ai

40:18

, like we talk about co-pilot

40:21

being able to do these things like receive

40:23

an email , check stock order

40:25

, stock , build a you know an

40:27

assembly order , maybe even fulfill

40:29

an order , ship it , put it on the dock , et cetera , and

40:31

that would probably terrify the life out of

40:33

anybody who's in that business process

40:36

right now . And I

40:39

relate it to my journey with full self-drive

40:41

. When I first started I would never

40:43

let go of the wheel . In fact , I felt certain it was

40:45

going to drive me into a tree every chance it had

40:47

. And now like it literally

40:50

, you know , three years later , four years , almost

40:52

four years later , it will take me

40:54

from my driveway and park at CVS

40:56

where I just get out , go

40:58

in , get my prescription or whatever , and I

41:00

never would have just gotten into that car

41:03

new and let it do

41:05

that . I had to get myself prepared

41:08

for that change and that's exactly

41:10

the same way I envision professionals

41:13

having to cope and adapt over time

41:15

with Co-Pilot in their workplace . So I

41:18

really appreciate that part of me unexpectedly

41:21

with the Tesla because it

41:23

definitely was a maturation process , not

41:25

just for the AI but for me . I had to

41:27

learn to do things differently

41:29

. Clearly , now I

41:32

make more mistakes than the car does now

41:35

. Right , and you could

41:37

apply that to what we would expect , I think

41:39

, for ai in our workplace that it

41:41

may seem weird , but it

41:43

won't be long before it is

41:45

performing better than you are today

41:47

I , I

41:49

like , I like , I agree with you and I can't

41:52

wait till the world of robo

41:54

taxi and all full self-driving

41:57

vehicles , because I

41:59

trust the Teslas more than I trust

42:02

people driving For sure .

42:04

You know , with the Tesla , with the FSD

42:06

, and not to turn this into a Tesla conversation

42:09

but I agree with you . When I first started with

42:11

it , I would hold on to that steering wheel

42:13

, my feet would be on the gas

42:15

or the brake just in case , like constantly

42:17

, like I get cramps from it . Now I'm

42:19

so relaxed Like I look forward to maybe having a

42:21

five-hour drive so I can relax .

42:23

Yeah , exactly , we just had talking

42:26

about Copilot . We just had

42:28

Tesla . Brad

42:31

and I were there and somebody

42:34

had turned on the summon and

42:36

seeing that in person was

42:39

mind-boggling . And now I have

42:41

summon as well , but I'm too

42:43

afraid to even try it .

42:45

But seeing it someone else do it in front of

42:47

us , it was the wildest thing

42:50

to see there's nothing like peer pressure

42:52

when you have a nice tesla in a parking

42:54

lot and you're at the other side of the parking lot where

42:56

you could see it , the full visibility . Full visibility

42:59

of the vehicle the entire time , like it was supposed to

43:01

be . So this wasn't one of those like , oh , we're

43:03

going to go down the street . It was just at the end of the parking

43:05

, parking , parking lot

43:08

, like it was one of those paid parking lots and

43:10

we just , you know , gave the individual

43:13

a lot of peer pressure , saying , ah , try it , turn

43:15

it on , try it . And let me

43:17

tell you that was the craziest thing

43:19

to see . Is that car back out and

43:22

pulled up to the individual

43:25

even to the point where it

43:27

put , pulled over to the side

43:29

of the , the central way of the

43:31

parking area , put on the hazards , opened

43:34

the door and he got in and

43:36

left . That's amazing . It was , and

43:39

there was a vehicle behind the vehicle as

43:41

well .

43:43

That's why he pulled over .

43:44

I don't even know , but it was amazing

43:47

to see . So I agree with you . I think you

43:49

know .

43:49

It takes time .

43:50

AI should just be embraced

43:52

as any other tool to help somebody

43:54

complete their job and , as you had stated , I think it

43:56

would just be able to do more and more . And

43:58

that's where I like what Microsoft's doing , like the

44:00

specific agents for

44:03

Business Central and they talk about all these agents that

44:05

are coming out and having an

44:07

agent for each function I think is a great idea , and

44:09

then you have somebody just manage the agents , instead

44:12

of trying to have an AI device

44:14

that's all-encompassing .

44:16

It's fantastic . So

44:21

what a great time to be alive right during all this change , to be able to see

44:23

it is is it's remarkable , really is is

44:26

there ever great ?

44:27

is there ever a time that it's not great to be alive

44:29

I ? Mean

44:31

I think we've been changing for a long time without

44:33

electricity or you know those things .

44:35

I don't know , but I'm sure . But I'm sure in that

44:37

moment it felt great to be alive .

44:39

Yeah yeah , that's . And people can look

44:41

back and say , ah , those guys actually had to get

44:43

in the car , yeah , and get gas and

44:45

put it on , and sean says

44:47

it's just like the way people ask

44:49

us now like you know that , you know like people

44:52

actually have to go to the phone booth and put a card

44:54

in to make a phone

44:56

call that's wild that is

44:59

. I remember when cell phones were invented with

45:02

that as well , or you had to wait once

45:05

a week for your TV show to come on

45:07

and you could only watch one episode

45:09

of it .

45:10

Those are things that you just

45:13

take for granted that they exist now , and

45:15

it won't be long before we're taking for granted

45:17

that cars literally just drive themselves

45:19

.

45:22

I don't even think we'll have vehicles . I

45:25

do believe there'll be a point where you don't need them and

45:27

you just have something . Come pick you up

45:29

and take you . The only challenge I see would be like if you have to

45:31

go to Home Depot and pick up something .

45:34

Now everything gets delivered right Delivered

45:37

.

45:37

That's what I'm saying . You're getting less

45:39

and less because you get things delivered

45:42

through amazon and then so they

45:44

would have robo delivery people .

45:46

So if I wanted 20 bags of mulch , the

45:48

robo delivery person would just show up

45:50

with my 20 bags and drop it off

45:52

in the driveway why not ?

45:54

yeah , because you have optimus now right On

45:57

top of that . I like this

45:59

.

45:59

Things are changing . I like this a lot

46:01

. It's great .

46:03

Sean question for you . So when you're starting

46:05

your journey in your co-pilot studio

46:08

, what was the first thing that

46:10

you tried to kind of play

46:12

with ? What did you build

46:14

?

46:14

I guess I would say Well , you mean with co-pilot

46:16

studio . Yeah , I

46:20

would say Well , you mean with Copilot Studio ? Yeah , I immediately . I immediately tried to build something

46:22

against our HR policies . That was the kind of the easy

46:24

thing . You know people asking all

46:26

the time when's our when , what are our holidays

46:29

? You know what's our PTO plan

46:31

? That was easy . We've

46:34

tried , we're trying to , I'm trying

46:36

to build something

46:39

on a personal level against , against my

46:41

website , to make it easier to find things

46:43

or just

46:45

get answers not findings , but to get answers

46:47

based on the content . So , but ? But

46:49

the first thing that I tried with Copilot , with my M365

46:52

license , was everything in Teams and

46:54

honestly , I would

46:56

. I couldn't live without it . Right now , I

46:58

use Copilot in Teams . It's

47:01

an extension of me now . It's

47:03

part of my methodology for

47:05

leadership , part of my methodology for accountability

47:08

, whether that's meeting notes or

47:10

transcribing future

47:13

agendas as follow-ups . It's

47:17

fantastic for that . I absolutely love it . Also

47:19

, I don't know about you guys , but I get . I get overload

47:22

on , you know , email , communication

47:24

, chat , all

47:26

these things . So when you take time off

47:28

, I just took some PTO two weeks

47:31

ago , came back and the very first

47:33

thing I did when I sat down was co-pilot

47:35

. Tell me the 10 most important things that I missed

47:37

last week . And I immediately

47:39

start with that . I don't even look at the emails

47:42

, I

47:44

start with that . And I was able to find myself managing

47:46

those higher priority things

47:49

with that much ease . Is

47:52

it right all the time ? No , but guess what ? I make

47:54

mistakes all the time too . It's more accurate

47:56

than I am , so I use that same

47:58

thing for the chat all the time too . It's more accurate than

48:01

I am , so I use that same thing for the chat . You know

48:03

, I

48:05

come back from a few days , and when I go on PTO , I uninstall Teams from my

48:07

phone . I don't even turn off . I just literally uninstall it Smart and I turn

48:10

off my account for email as well .

48:12

But when I come back , I've got , you know , hundreds

48:14

of Teams , chats , and I just I use Copilot

48:17

to tell me , tell

48:22

me the three most important things I missed from this person , from this person

48:24

, from this person , or summarize that helped me so much on the summarization

48:26

, because I had , I had to take over

48:29

a project and I have no

48:31

clue and I would have to read all those

48:33

notes and I just had copilot

48:35

summarize past , past meetings

48:38

and notes and identified

48:40

what the action items were to reconcile

48:43

what was outstanding and I'll tell you

48:45

I didn't feel stressed out at all , it was a pretty smooth

48:47

transition . Those

48:51

stuff , those small stuff that have

48:54

a big Sean hit it right there those

48:56

emails .

48:57

And when you go away and you get a lot of emails because

48:59

everybody CCs everybody . I love just

49:01

taking the group saying summarize this Can you imagine

49:04

this ?

49:04

time where you're on a meeting , just like we're on a meeting

49:06

now and you say so , there's

49:08

the three of us . But instead of us doing

49:10

something , we'll just say Co-Pilot , can you please

49:12

add to the agenda ? Or , co-pilot

49:14

, can you bring up the blueprint for this project ? Or Can you bring up

49:16

the blueprint for this project ? Or copilot , can

49:19

you bring up the project plan ? Like , being

49:21

able to interact , like that , that's , that's

49:23

a very real future for us . I

49:25

can't wait for those kinds of things . So , right now

49:27

, it's like , um , it's

49:29

like we have to ask copilot to do everything

49:32

. Like , um , my , my

49:34

CEO , uh , said to me one day it's

49:36

like you're you have to rub the genie out

49:38

of the bottle for

49:41

cold blood .

49:41

I thought you were doing a Borat on me for a second

49:43

. I had to re-hear that .

49:53

But we want it to be more proactive and I can't wait for those kind of things . These

49:55

agents are the first step in that journey , which is crazy

49:57

, and that's why I started this world's

50:00

okay , sean journey , because I really don't want to fall behind

50:02

anybody here in this . You know , I encourage you

50:04

not to fall behind . This is , this

50:06

is the , this is the future , and

50:08

that you can't argue that . I don't think , and

50:11

if you're , if you have

50:13

time left in your career , this

50:15

is going to help you in in more

50:17

ways than you can possibly imagine and

50:19

you will pick up your task , I believe

50:21

, and not too far down the road . You

50:23

will start your tasks from the end

50:25

result of some agent , rather than the

50:28

initiation of somebody emailing

50:30

you or something like that . You will start at

50:33

the end of an agent's responsibility

50:35

and maybe even hand

50:37

it off to another agent when

50:40

you're through with it .

50:41

That's where I see this and it goes with what you

50:43

said . And it's like I see it . You come in in the morning

50:45

, come into the office or even come home and

50:48

Copilot will tell you what you need

50:50

to do or what had happened . You

50:53

come home and , oh , you should check this . It's

50:55

just going to tell you what you need to

50:57

do or work . It will come in and give you a summary of oh

50:59

, there's an issue with this , or make sure

51:01

you call this person back .

51:08

And those co-pilots . Studio Sean , you had mentioned about you know creating

51:10

HR . You know , coming from the power platform conference , that's

51:12

the first thing I did as soon as I got

51:14

back in the hotel room . Is

51:18

the HR being able to feed you

51:21

know the information ? That's common questions

51:23

that typically people ask you know

51:25

, do they do they offer benefits ? You know

51:28

how do you do reimbursements and all

51:30

of the stuff that you typically have to search or

51:32

ask you know , hr , how to do

51:34

that .

51:35

Now you can just ask co-pilot no

51:37

, no , I think the most number one . I

51:39

think the number one question or the most popular question

51:41

would be what are my holidays ? I

51:44

bet you any HR co-pilot if they kept

51:46

track of the questions , I bet you that would be

51:48

number one everywhere , because that is one of those

51:50

where I think everybody forgets , because

51:52

you know , what holiday do

51:54

you have ?

51:57

In a weird way , it's actually a bad example

51:59

, right , like , like , if you think about what

52:02

we want ai to do , the

52:05

hr assistant that I started to try to

52:07

build is really just a , a

52:09

prescriptive response to a type

52:11

of question . Like , if somebody asks

52:13

this question , answer this and that's maybe

52:16

that's ai , but it's at like the very bottom

52:18

of its capabilities . Right , we want , we wanted

52:21

to do so many more things and be able

52:23

to and be able to compare and contrast

52:25

some education system that it

52:27

has , whatever its foundation is , whatever it's

52:29

grounded on . Like

52:40

that's where I started . It's not really like , that's not really a good use case for co-pilot

52:42

. It's a super simple entry point , but you know , co-pilot

52:45

and AI in general , like

52:47

we wouldn't want AI in the Tesla just to

52:49

tell us when it was time to charge the battery . We wanted

52:51

to do those things and make decisions

52:54

for us , not

52:56

just answer the questions and those

52:58

kinds of things . So I challenge myself

53:00

with this . Like it's really difficult . Like , what can

53:04

ai do in the workplace ? Um

53:06

, and we're seeing kind of some of the pattern

53:08

come from microsoft with the sales

53:11

order agent for business central . Those

53:13

are easier things , but maybe the real

53:15

answer is in like what we used

53:17

to call machine learning , you know , when we were

53:19

trying to be predictive in our

53:22

ordering and what we needed to order based

53:24

on market trends . We just weren't

53:26

ready for those kind of things before . Maybe we're

53:28

a little more prepared for that kind

53:30

of business change now , perhaps . See

53:34

, it's a curious time .

53:36

It is . I like the way that you phrased it

53:38

and comparing it to the tesla , because it related

53:40

to me , because , like you said , you don't want the alert

53:42

just for the battery . Although it's great , it's cool

53:44

right right the reality is you want to be able to get

53:47

in , put my destination , forget

53:49

about it and then get out of the vehicle

53:51

when you get there and who ?

53:53

who thought , think

53:56

of all the things that you think ai can't do in

53:58

a business . And

54:00

and then just say , well , maybe that's wrong

54:02

, because who thought seven years

54:04

ago , cars would drive us around ? And

54:07

if you don't drive a Tesla or you're not aware , I mean this

54:09

is happening to the millions of miles all over

54:11

the country , all over the world , every

54:15

day , in a remarkable way . If you haven't

54:17

seen it , it's amazing . And so if we think we

54:19

can't use AI at work , I

54:22

think that that's just wrong . We just haven't opened

54:25

up our mind to what is possible with

54:27

this artificial intelligence era .

54:29

And I think it will come a lot quicker than

54:32

most people think , because I do have conversations

54:34

where , all over the board

54:37

, you made a point . I

54:39

didn't want to say embrace it , because there

54:41

are some that think it will fall by

54:43

the wayside . I do think it will be commoditized

54:45

, where everybody will have it and it will be able to do

54:48

some great things in a sense

54:50

. So it will no longer be like that

54:52

great shiny thing . It'll be just almost like the equivalent of

54:54

being able to plug in a device

54:57

to an electrical outlet because the electricity is

54:59

just there . It's not a novel thing

55:01

anymore . It becomes just so commonplace

55:03

. But I like the way that you thought of the approach

55:05

of don't

55:08

put limits on it

55:10

, based on today , because

55:12

you go back to that . I'll tell you that Tesla is amazing

55:14

. That thing goes around rotaries , that thing

55:17

goes to four-way stops . I don't even

55:19

know how it does it all Like if you really think

55:21

of what it has to do , and

55:23

I can honestly say

55:25

I think it reacts quicker

55:27

than a human yeah .

55:30

In some cases , yeah , the decision-making is quicker .

55:32

It's amazing when you actually think about it , but

55:34

I almost feel , like I said a few

55:36

moments ago , it's safer with AI in

55:39

the vehicle than without it today . You

55:41

know , maybe when it first started there were some questions

55:45

or problems with it , because even if you

55:47

look at the cases of where there's a hazard

55:49

, let's just say , something runs

55:52

into the road quickly , whether it could be an animal

55:54

or you know . You

55:56

know something else that pops into

55:58

you who has a faster reaction

56:00

time ? Because how many people are driving

56:03

are tired , how many people are driving are distracted

56:05

or they're daydreaming

56:07

? In a sense , right , the vehicle

56:09

is , like , always alert and

56:13

somebody can jump in front of a vehicle

56:15

by accident , with or without

56:18

AI , and still have an accident

56:20

. You know it's . It's not the ai that's

56:22

fault . I think the ai is um

56:26

a little more reactive . I don't know , but I agree

56:28

with you .

56:28

I think in the workplace we're just starting we're

56:30

just starting and it will be as

56:33

generations turn . It will be , it

56:35

will be expected . It's already sort

56:37

of expected , right like when

56:40

you you . So

56:43

if you write something and

56:46

you say , oh , I use ChatGPT to start

56:48

, nobody goes , what's that ? It's

56:51

already expected to be part of

56:53

that . You know writings , People

56:55

are already thinking that . And

56:58

the generational folks , you know the younger folks

57:00

who are coming in here . For example , my

57:02

granddaughter is five by

57:05

the time she drives . She

57:07

won't know a world where cars don't

57:09

drive themselves , and

57:11

that's not very far away

57:14

and the workplace is no different

57:16

. So when you have new folks coming in and they say , wait

57:18

a minute , you have to manually reconcile

57:20

your AP to your general

57:22

ledger account , it doesn't just do it . What

57:24

do you mean ? Just do it to your general ledger account

57:27

? It doesn't just do it . What do you mean ? Just

57:29

do it ? Well

57:33

, it can just do it , because if you can do it , so can AI and it could probably do it

57:35

a little better . So there's going to be that demand on businesses where , in order to

57:37

attract the relevant

57:39

talent , if you're not modern

57:41

in that way , specifically with AI I'm

57:44

not even talking just software in general , I'm talking

57:46

specifically with AI , then

57:48

you're not going to attract those high caliber

57:51

candidates in the future , not too very far

57:54

down the future .

57:56

What happens with everybody then ?

57:58

We just do more valuable things , right

58:01

. So we were

58:03

able to do more quantity-wise

58:05

and more valuable things . I

58:07

can't do more valuable things when

58:10

I'm having to read through and parse through 150

58:12

emails , right . So the idea

58:14

is that if you ever hear people say lowering

58:16

the floor , I think that that's what they're meaning

58:18

is that those

58:21

things are important but they're not near as important . They're

58:23

not revenue generating , perhaps , or they're not

58:25

strategic or whatever they are . So

58:27

we can do more of that . And

58:30

also , I think we could do different

58:32

things . So there are things that businesses

58:34

don't do today because they

58:36

don't have the investment , infrastructure or

58:38

the bandwidth to insert humans

58:41

into the process to develop that

58:43

. Because , remember , I think , at

58:45

least initially , ai is going to be the continuation

58:48

or the improvement of something . I

58:50

can't imagine AI is going to just build a

58:52

business from scratch . Maybe you know

58:54

down the road , but initially that's going to

58:56

be humans doing that , where then we incorporate

58:59

AI into it . So that's what

59:01

I envision people doing . You know you may not

59:03

have the need anymore this

59:06

is probably unpopular opinion or

59:09

maybe it just doesn't feel comfortable to say

59:11

but you may not have the need anymore for

59:13

maybe an intern to do certain

59:15

things for you or a

59:18

junior associate to do certain

59:20

things , because your

59:22

AI will do it . The good news is that's bad news for those junior associates

59:24

. But Now the good news is that's bad news for those junior associates , but

59:27

I believe the good news is that those junior

59:29

associates can now already go into

59:31

a much more skill-driven

59:33

profession where they

59:36

don't need to understand those lower things

59:38

, because that floor is lowered and AI is getting

59:41

them up there . So now they can just process the

59:43

queue . They don't have to understand how to manifest

59:45

it or organize the data in

59:47

the queue , they can just process the queue .

59:49

They don't have to understand how to manifest it or organize the data

59:51

in the queue . They can just process the queue . It's a great point . A lot of the businesses

59:53

should maybe look at AI

59:55

to remove tedious and maintenance

59:57

work , and so that allows you to focus

59:59

more of a strategic where

1:00:02

your company is going . So it allows you to think more outside the box

1:00:04

where in many businesses they kind of

1:00:06

you know , still get into the weeds

1:00:08

of you know manual work , when

1:00:11

you can replace some of those things with co-pilot

1:00:13

.

1:00:13

You just shattered my retirement gig of

1:00:15

stocking shelves at Costco with

1:00:17

this whole AI speech , because by the time I get

1:00:19

there , the shelves

1:00:21

will be stocking themselves .

1:00:22

They will be , yeah , they will be , unfortunately

1:00:26

stocking themselves .

1:00:28

I think , yeah , they will be , unfortunately

1:00:30

, I know yeah .

1:00:31

That means you could go fishing .

1:00:33

More fishing .

1:00:33

Yeah , let's go . So

1:00:36

also , there's this what

1:00:38

businesses are not benefiting from . So

1:00:40

you have people in sales and

1:00:42

account managers , and then you have other

1:00:44

folks doing finance and what have you . But

1:00:47

you've got a list of 500 customers but you're only

1:00:49

talking to 100 of them . Right , because you don't

1:00:51

have the hands to talk to it , or

1:00:53

or the system . You don't have the system that says

1:00:55

, hey , you haven't talked to sean's landscaping

1:00:58

in three months ? They're a valuable client . Why haven't you talked

1:01:00

to them to see if you need to replenish any goods

1:01:02

? Nobody's doing that work

1:01:04

. And then if you , if you really look at AI

1:01:06

and you pull out those what we should

1:01:09

be doing things , well then who's

1:01:11

going to do those ? Well , that's where the folks who were

1:01:13

doing those other tasks now get

1:01:15

inserted into the process and now

1:01:17

their stake in the

1:01:19

business has more value , because it's

1:01:21

generating revenue or increasing

1:01:25

customer service , which , in turn , is going

1:01:27

to increase .

1:01:27

You can even expand beyond that too , because

1:01:30

if it knows that you haven't reached out to the customer

1:01:32

, it could automatically create an email

1:01:34

and send an email .

1:01:37

I see that customer relationship management

1:01:40

is a big need now in

1:01:42

this world , so that the customers know

1:01:44

who you

1:01:46

are and they know what

1:01:50

they could be doing . Even if you look at from you know , take

1:01:53

it from selfishly , from the business central point of view . With

1:01:55

the application changes and the

1:01:57

advancements that made in the application , just

1:01:59

to reach out to the customers and let them

1:02:01

know about some of the new functionality , you can auto

1:02:03

generate some of that of that stuff

1:02:05

as well based upon Sorry

1:02:08

, go

1:02:13

ahead , I forget what .

1:02:15

I was going to say I had to do that .

1:02:16

It's Friday .

1:02:16

I forget what I was going to say oh .

1:02:19

I don't want to say that Based on the customer's implementation

1:02:21

, so you can have AI

1:02:23

understand and know about each of the implementations

1:02:25

that you may have and be able to reach

1:02:28

out accordingly .

1:02:28

Yeah , you could probably use AI to

1:02:31

configure a system you know

1:02:33

. Tell it the requirements and it will know . You

1:02:35

want these dimensions , these configurations

1:02:37

, your industry is this , you want these setups , you

1:02:39

want these posting groups . There's no reason you couldn't

1:02:41

do that , that

1:02:47

. What I was going to say I forgot for a second , but I remembered as you continued on is

1:02:49

this lowering of the floor theory and getting more people into

1:02:51

the mindset of revenue impacting and strategic

1:02:53

impact is

1:02:56

going to make businesses far more competitive

1:02:58

. So my landscaping company is going

1:03:00

to be far more competitive against yours and for both

1:03:02

. Rising to the top , using AI to build our

1:03:04

businesses that way , we

1:03:06

have to protect the customer , so customer

1:03:08

service becomes paramount Now

1:03:11

, not that it isn't today , but it's going to be even

1:03:13

more so because AI is going to really

1:03:15

bring all of those problems out

1:03:18

of the mix and

1:03:20

really it's going to be what

1:03:22

the customer's interpretation of our service

1:03:25

is . So there's a lot of value people

1:03:27

will be able to bring outside

1:03:29

of what they do , as long as you want to change your

1:03:32

, as long as you welcome the change in mindset

1:03:34

and the change in your responsibilities . Will

1:03:37

people lose jobs ? I think for

1:03:39

sure that people will lose jobs , but there will

1:03:41

be other jobs that will come

1:03:43

of it .

1:03:43

It'll create new industries .

1:03:45

That's been around since . You know , if

1:03:47

we went back to the horse and buggy when the vehicle was

1:03:49

created , you know everyone's worried about

1:03:51

the horse and buggy guys but , as Chris you just stated , other

1:03:54

positions opened up , but you hit

1:03:56

something that I have had conversations

1:03:58

and I said before . I said the most valuable

1:04:01

thing that's going to come from this

1:04:03

is relationships . Like

1:04:05

it's the relationship that's going to be the most

1:04:07

important and you phrased it well with the protecting

1:04:09

the customer and the customer service

1:04:11

that they're going to get or feel that they're going to get , because

1:04:14

you know the AI will structure

1:04:16

a business and have everything going well , but it's

1:04:18

the experience of the customer

1:04:20

through whatever you deliver that's going

1:04:22

to protect

1:04:24

the customer in essence . So it's

1:04:26

something that is

1:04:29

extremely important in this world that

1:04:31

, even if they're not even talking with you , in

1:04:33

a sense , right , you do a lot of things online . You

1:04:35

know , even now . Look at all the stuff you can order online , all the stuff that you

1:04:38

can do online with products Amazon

1:04:40

, for example , or even some other companies , companies

1:04:43

. They just want to have a good experience or

1:04:46

relationship with you the way they want

1:04:48

, which is

1:04:50

going to be a challenge , yeah

1:04:53

, and so that's the long

1:04:55

answer to what is the world's okay , sean

1:04:57

, all about .

1:05:00

That's what that is .

1:05:01

I like this world's okay , Sean no this is .

1:05:02

We went down a road that I honestly

1:05:05

didn't know how . You know , sometimes I wanted

1:05:07

to talk about your GP

1:05:09

to BC journey and customers

1:05:11

. I

1:05:18

also wanted to make sure we talked about the life hacks and then also your wonderful

1:05:20

presentation skills just from the conversation that we had at Summit

1:05:23

about that . But this AI conversation , it's deep

1:05:25

. It is time

1:05:27

for people to start thinking about

1:05:29

thinking about

1:05:31

it . Right , and it's just like we talked about with somebody maybe

1:05:33

migrating from GP to business central or something

1:05:35

. Stop planning , getting familiar with it , getting

1:05:37

used to it and starting to understand it and

1:05:40

knowing that it's just beginning and I do think it's going to go

1:05:42

faster , I

1:05:44

think , you know

1:05:46

, you know , exponentially at this

1:05:49

point , I believe , will

1:05:51

there be a point where it slows down ? I don't know

1:05:53

, I mean , it's it's how fast can we go

1:05:55

and how fast can we keep up ? Right

1:05:57

, is there ever a point where it's going

1:05:59

too fast and we just explode

1:06:02

?

1:06:04

no , you can't go too fast , in this case explode

1:06:08

no , you can't go too fast in this case , yeah , keep going . No , regardless

1:06:10

of the speed you're going , I mean , everyone's gonna have

1:06:13

to react and you know

1:06:15

, some industry may be a little bit slower , and

1:06:17

I'm talking about the people behind it . Like

1:06:20

to keep up oh yeah , I mean

1:06:22

, I don't think it's going to slow

1:06:24

down . It's really going to depend on

1:06:26

the people that wants

1:06:28

to accept it . I mean , even from

1:06:30

even building co-pilots right

1:06:32

now , as an example , on

1:06:34

the partner space

1:06:36

, you can have a discovery spit

1:06:39

out , or they answer the discovery , they

1:06:41

send it back to you , have co-pilot read

1:06:43

it and summarize it and tell me what's . What

1:06:46

are the things that we need to do to set up Business Central to

1:06:48

accommodate the requirements I

1:06:50

do ?

1:06:51

dream of the day . Another thing you mentioned , sean . I

1:06:53

don't know if you remember back in the vision early

1:06:55

on

1:06:58

you've started up and said what type of company are you Like

1:07:01

manufacturing or finance ? They

1:07:03

had like a little string menu

1:07:05

box up there where you picked a couple choices and then

1:07:08

it did something . I do think it's

1:07:10

going to be eventually . Tell

1:07:12

me a little bit about your business and

1:07:14

it will set up business central for you I

1:07:17

don't disagree . You know , yeah , I think mostly

1:07:19

right everything . I'll say mostly

1:07:21

for everything , because most people well , I can't do

1:07:24

that , because what about this ? But if it's

1:07:26

just like using chat GPT is what you mentioned

1:07:28

to start writing something , if chat

1:07:30

GPT gives you a good idea and a good foundation

1:07:32

and then you expand upon it , it saved you

1:07:35

a lot of time .

1:07:35

It doesn't give you the 80% .

1:07:37

But I really think with Business Central , look at

1:07:39

what they added with the number series . You know auto creating

1:07:42

the number series with Copilot in this last

1:07:44

release and you know Dimitri

1:07:46

did a great job with that . But I see that going so

1:07:48

much further , like with like posting groups

1:07:50

and chart of accounts and

1:07:53

everything else , to just do a basic

1:07:55

foundational setup because there are a lot of

1:07:57

setup options in there . So I think

1:07:59

if you tell someone a little bit about a company , of what you're doing

1:08:01

and what you need , it will be able to go through and

1:08:04

go through all those setup screens which

1:08:09

, to this day , I still say I wish was on one screen .

1:08:10

If you can get there 80% of it and then the rest is 20%

1:08:12

you can focus on , I would love that .

1:08:15

Yeah , and think of it like it's artificial

1:08:17

intelligence . So it's not

1:08:20

necessarily if this , then that , or

1:08:23

development . So if we can do it , if

1:08:25

it's really AI , if we can

1:08:27

do it , then the AI should be

1:08:29

able to do it .

1:08:32

I'm waiting for the day where I can just have a

1:08:34

conversation with AI .

1:08:36

So , do you not ? So right now on

1:08:41

ChatGPT there

1:08:43

is a the multimodal on , there is a voice

1:08:45

and you can have . I have . I've

1:08:48

listened to my son have

1:08:50

conversations . I've listened to my granddaughter have

1:08:52

conversations very interactive

1:08:54

. You would , you would swear it was a

1:08:57

human on the other end . It's

1:08:59

mind-blowing .

1:08:59

Check it out I think I'll drew that . I

1:09:02

when co-pilot with the microsoft co-pilot

1:09:04

, I switched from my chat to you . Do you

1:09:06

need to have the subscription for ? ChatGPT I had

1:09:08

a ChatGPT subscription

1:09:10

, but with Copilot I ended

1:09:13

up switching because at that time I thought

1:09:15

I would get more from it , but

1:09:17

I think now it's going back with

1:09:19

ChatGPT . Maybe I'll have to get the subscription

1:09:21

, because I would like to sit there and

1:09:24

just have a conversation and then you could get a robot

1:09:27

or something that could live with you and

1:09:29

then you just have a conversation with it and have

1:09:31

it clean the house .

1:09:32

I'm telling you I reestablished

1:09:35

my subscription for ChatGPT For $20,

1:09:37

. It's worth it . Try it .

1:09:40

After this recording , I will go

1:09:42

enable my

1:09:44

subscription again and I

1:09:46

will definitely try that conversation , because I'll just

1:09:48

sit here and I'll talk to myself .

1:09:51

Hypothesize about something or speculate

1:09:53

something . When you interact with it Don't just say

1:09:55

how are you ? One of the conversations

1:09:58

my son was having about who

1:10:00

would be in

1:10:03

contention for theitent for next year's baseball

1:10:05

season , for the MLB , and they

1:10:08

went back and forth over players , they went back

1:10:10

and forth over teams and trade

1:10:12

deadlines and basically the AI

1:10:14

was hypothesizing over

1:10:16

things . Well , if this happens , then I could see

1:10:18

this and it's just . It makes

1:10:21

you almost think it's fake , because

1:10:24

how was that happening in

1:10:27

that fast , like it's not , like you're

1:10:30

waiting , and it processes for 30 seconds

1:10:32

. It's very interactive . Check

1:10:35

it out .

1:10:36

Yeah .

1:10:36

I'm definitely checking it out .

1:10:38

I'm definitely doing that Well , Mr

1:10:40

Sean , thank you for taking the time

1:10:42

to speak with us . I always enjoy

1:10:45

speak with you . I appreciate everything you're doing for

1:10:47

the community and everything that you're sharing with your

1:10:49

sessions , as well as even your World's Okay with

1:10:51

Sean and your new AI

1:10:53

co-pilot podcast that you have

1:10:55

as well . What's

1:10:57

your schedule on that ? I see the episodes pop up

1:10:59

every now and then I'm recording them every other week

1:11:02

.

1:11:02

Every other week I'm trying to challenge

1:11:04

myself with what I'm going to

1:11:06

learn in the next coming week and then

1:11:08

usually I have a little bit of rollover

1:11:10

in that commitment , but I'm doing every

1:11:13

other week .

1:11:14

Excellent , excellent . If you would , can

1:11:16

you tell us a little bit how someone could get a hold of

1:11:19

you to learn more about your Life Hacks 365

1:11:21

, your speaking sessions , if they have questions

1:11:23

about GP to Business Central or any other

1:11:26

AI information ?

1:11:33

Yeah , you can certainly reach me at SeanD , at SAGlobalcom that's my work email or my personal website

1:11:35

is Lifehacks365 , the number is 365.com

1:11:38

. You can reach out to me there as well . And

1:11:41

, guys , I really appreciate all that you do for the

1:11:43

community , for having me on here . It's been a blast . I

1:11:45

really do appreciate it .

1:11:47

Thank you very much . We appreciate that . All right

1:11:49

, have a good day , enjoy the weekend , and I'm going to check out

1:11:52

my chat GPT . I'm going to be talking to chat GPT

1:11:54

for the rest of the afternoon , I feel , yep .

1:11:56

You know you can build your own chat , gpt . I

1:12:00

did not know that you can subscription

1:12:02

. Built one , I try to build one for , uh

1:12:04

, remote work , therapy and

1:12:07

in philosophy , and just fed it with a bunch of philosophical

1:12:09

philosophers and

1:12:12

and you can have a conversation .

1:12:13

Wow , yeah if it could read books

1:12:15

, if it could read books and can talk to me about

1:12:17

, as long as it's public yeah , as

1:12:19

long as public access books , which a lot

1:12:21

of them do well , I read the books , but I'd like

1:12:24

to talk to somebody about the book after I read it yeah

1:12:26

, exactly you can . I don't want someone to tell me about the book

1:12:28

, so I don't have to read it , but

1:12:31

I just read the book why I'm curious

1:12:33

, I'm going to try it , because I just figured

1:12:35

how you , how you feel about it after you interact

1:12:37

.

1:12:37

It's hard to put down . We will have to have a follow-up

1:12:40

conversation you can have an argument

1:12:42

about your book .

1:12:43

You just read it and and and talk with

1:12:45

it that's what I want to do .

1:12:46

I just read this book and I would love to be able to sit and talk

1:12:49

with someone about it , to get their point of view on it

1:12:51

, because again like I said , I don't want something to

1:12:53

summarize a book for me . I want

1:12:55

someone , something , to

1:12:57

be able to engage in conversation with me about

1:13:00

it , to try it . That's what I want

1:13:02

. I'm going to try it . If it does that with this book

1:13:04

, then you will never hear from me again . I'm

1:13:07

just going to do things and have conversations

1:13:09

and there'll be one less

1:13:12

host on this podcast because I'll stop we'll

1:13:14

use ai .

1:13:14

We'll get you an ai

1:13:17

version of that's

1:13:19

it all right , sir .

1:13:20

Thank you again . It's great speaking to you . Talk with you soon .

1:13:22

Ciao all right , thank you guys .

1:13:24

thank you , chris , for your time for

1:13:27

another episode of In the Dynamics

1:13:29

Corner Chair and thank you to our guests

1:13:31

for participating .

1:13:32

Thank you , brad , for your time . It is

1:13:34

a wonderful episode of Dynamics Corner

1:13:36

Chair . I would also like to thank

1:13:38

our guests for joining us . Thank

1:13:41

you for all of our listeners tuning in as well

1:13:43

. You can find Brad at

1:13:46

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1:13:52

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1:13:55

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1:14:00

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1:14:05

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1:14:08

my Twitter handle is Mattalino16

1:14:11

. And you can see

1:14:13

those links down below in the show notes . Again

1:14:16

, thank you everyone . Thank you and take

1:14:18

care .