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it's Kelli McEvers, and
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we are back with episode
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two of Supermajority. And just
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to note, before we start,
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there's some coarse language in this episode. Okay,
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here's Maribyrnite. It
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was April 3rd of last year, exactly a
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week after the shooting at the Covenant School.
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You may remember this from the beginning of the
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last episode. Protests demanding more
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gun control had been raging, and
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the House was in chaos after three
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Democrats took to the floor with a
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bullhorn in solidarity. Now,
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Republican lawmakers had introduced
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resolutions to expel them. All
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those in favor, vote aye. All those opposed,
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vote no. Angry
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spectators looked down on lawmakers from
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the House gallery, screaming fascists as
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the resolutions passed. Now I
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see the whole country watching us, and they
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would have never paid any attention before. Mr.
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Trooper, unfortunately, the
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members cannot hear. I ask you to clear
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out the balcony, please. But
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next door in the Senate, things
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were quite different. All was
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quiet, not a peep from the gallery. It
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was business as usual. Clerk,
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take the roll. 32
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members are present. The Senate
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has a quorum and is now in session.
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Mr. Speaker, if I could approach the well, please, sir.
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You may. Right after the Pledge
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of Allegiance, longtime Senator Rusty Crowe
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had the floor for a moment of
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recognition. Senator Crowe, you're recognized in
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the well. Thank you, Mr. Speaker. He
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wanted to welcome a visitor from abroad.
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And so we're very proud to have Istvan with us.
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Istvan Kiss, the executive director
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of a place called the
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Danube Institute, as in the
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Danube River. It's a
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conservative think tank based in Budapest.
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With that, Mr. Speaker, if
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we could allow Istvan Kiss
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to say a few words to us and
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I would appreciate that, sir. Mr. Kiss, you're
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recognized, sir. Thank
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you very much, Senator Crow, for this kind
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introduction. Senator Crow already mentioned
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that the Danube Institute was established with the
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aim to be a kind of a beltway.
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The Danube Institute is funded by
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the Hungarian government, and it has
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close ties to the country's far-right
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leader, Viktor Orban. It's
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a way to take his politics on the road. And
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those politics are worth explaining for
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a moment. Since 2010, Orban
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has rewritten electoral rules. He's
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taken over public institutions, weakened
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independent courts, and gutted
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independent media. In
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a 2022 report, the European Parliament
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declared that Hungary is no longer
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a functioning democracy. Instead,
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calling it an electoral
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autocracy. Senator
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Crow had started thinking about Hungary's
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politics and its leader about a
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year earlier, after a constituent, who's
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also a friend, had called him.
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He said, Rusty, did you hear the
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speech that Prime Minister of Hungary, Viktor
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Orban, just gave at
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CPAC? I said, no. CPAC
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is the Conservative Political Action
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Conference, this annual meeting where
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a lot of major Republicans
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gather. It had hosted Orban as
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a speaker. It was
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an amazing speech that
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dealt with our traditional
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Judeo-Christian values.
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Crow said the Senate wrote this
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proclamation, praising... Orban's speech, and
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the constituent took it over to Hungary to deliver
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it directly. Hungary was now
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returning the gesture via Istevan
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Kiss. Dear honorable senators,
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it's a rare privilege and honor to
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be here with you in
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the great volunteer state. I've
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never would have imagined years
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ago that I would ever visit Tennessee, to be honest.
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But here Kiss was, offering his
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condolences for the shooting and explaining
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that he was in town for the week. So I
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would be very honored and happy to meet
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as many of you as possible during my
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time here. Thank you very much again for
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the opportunity and God bless you
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and your work. Thank you. A
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resolution introduced by Crow to honor
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the Danube Institute passed unanimously in
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the Senate. Even Democrats
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voted yes. Then it went
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to the House, where it also passed. And
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then off to be signed by the governor. Kiss's
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visit didn't seem to raise any alarms inside
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the Capitol. But outside,
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to journalists and academics, it
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was striking. They'd been watching
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Tennessee, and some of them told me
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that small-d democracy here, the norms
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within our political system that most
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of us take for granted, have
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been shifting for years. The
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political scientist Jake Grumbach at
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UC Berkeley has created
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what he calls a state democracy
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index, which he says measures
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how democratic a state government is. It
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includes 61 different indicators that he
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measured for every state. And
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in Tennessee, things didn't look
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good, especially in critical
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matters like gerrymandering. Setting
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near records and partisan gerrymandering.
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Access to voting, election integrity.
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They blocked any sort of modernization
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reform of the voting system
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that most other states started doing.
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