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fellow Empaths, healers, intuitives,

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and seekers. Hello Empaths,

0:33

welcome to our show. We're

0:35

going to be discussing court-cutting.

0:37

I think we've covered court-cutting

0:39

on several other shows. Do

0:41

you want to give a

0:43

quick overview of what that involves?

0:46

It's interesting that we're doing this show

0:48

because remember when we had George

0:50

Lizzo's on a while back and

0:52

I saw a little Instagram of

0:54

that he was doing and he

0:56

was talking about That you don't

0:59

really need to protect yourself

1:01

you emanate your power from within

1:03

you don't need shields you don't

1:05

need psychic protection and I was

1:07

waiting for him to bring up

1:09

something on what about when chords

1:11

because when we've talked about chords

1:14

getting attached from either positive or

1:16

negative, so it's not necessarily a

1:18

negative thing, but when you feel

1:21

drained, when you feel exhausted, has

1:23

someone's latched onto your energy, and

1:25

then there's the whole theory that

1:28

they latch on to where your

1:30

shockers are and that that can

1:32

have an impact on your physical

1:34

health, but then there can be

1:36

the positive ones that I don't

1:38

want to cut the cords with

1:40

my sons with my dear friends

1:42

that are positive and loving. Exactly.

1:45

So there's this belief that any time

1:47

you have an energetic connection

1:49

with someone, there's an energetic

1:51

chord that connects the two of you. And

1:53

some of those chords are going to

1:56

be in different places on your

1:58

energetic body. So if someone is a...

2:00

pain in your neck, you might have

2:02

an energetic cord in your neck going

2:04

to them. If you have a love

2:06

connection with someone you might have an

2:08

energetic cord going from your heart to

2:10

their heart. And this is why some

2:12

people believe you pick up the phone

2:14

to call your friend and she's already

2:16

on the phone. It's because you were

2:19

communicating that energy through your invisible to

2:21

our eyes cord. So the belief is

2:23

that there are good chords like Denise

2:25

just said and there are chords that

2:27

are taking energy from us and it

2:30

and so the belief is that you

2:32

want to cut those chords which I've

2:34

always ascribed to and I try

2:36

to do cord-cutting meditations frequently to

2:38

kind of keep my energy clean

2:41

and clear of any distractions or

2:43

drains to my own personal energy.

2:45

But then we received this really

2:47

interesting email that I wanted to

2:49

share with everyone. I did reach

2:52

out to her and I got

2:54

her permission to share this. She

2:56

says, from listening to your podcast,

2:59

I would like to share my experience with

3:01

the topic you have discussed and give

3:04

you my slightly different take on it.

3:06

The topic is cord cutting. My mother

3:08

was emotionally abusive and in my

3:10

20s I became seriously depressed. I

3:13

began talking to a good therapist

3:15

and continued for about 30 years.

3:17

About 10 years ago I was starting

3:19

to end the therapy and I decided

3:22

to do a cord cutting exercise. I do

3:24

not know if I had heard about cord

3:26

cutting somewhere or I just psychically

3:28

knew about it. but I knew I needed to

3:30

do it. To back up a bit, since my

3:32

late teens, I have had some

3:34

significant and intense psychic experiences.

3:36

I am not like you

3:38

ladies with your abilities, but

3:41

periodically I have some very

3:43

meaningful experiences. As one example, before

3:45

we adopted my son and before

3:47

he was even conceived, a spirit showed

3:49

him to me and a dream. I have always

3:51

called the spirit Merlin, and so it

3:54

was very special to learn of Deb's

3:56

dear cat named Merlin. Anyway, to get

3:58

back to my reason for writing, when I... stopped

4:00

regular therapy, I saw an opportunity

4:02

to continue to grow through spiritual

4:04

development, and I focused on continuing

4:06

to read metaphysical books, talking to

4:08

a few friends with a gift,

4:10

trying to meditate, and now listening

4:12

to your podcast. The day that

4:14

I cut the mother-daughter cord, I

4:16

was in my garden. I knew

4:18

that I wanted to cut this

4:20

cord, but I also knew that

4:22

for me, ending the relationship was

4:24

not going to feel right. Instead,

4:26

I wanted to redefine our relationship

4:28

in terms that I could live

4:30

with. It came to me that

4:32

I am comfortable redefining my mother

4:34

as a crazy aunt. I've helped

4:36

older people I am not related

4:38

to, and maybe this is why

4:40

I could redefine our relationship. In

4:43

addition, my mother lives with my

4:45

brother who has some issues, and

4:47

I wanted to support him as

4:49

well. The court cutting consisted of

4:51

my breaking the fine gold cord

4:53

that I visualized. as representing the

4:55

sacred mother-child relationship. I then reattached

4:57

to my mother with a thick

4:59

rougher-looking bronze cord. In the bronze

5:01

relationship I do not have expectations

5:03

and for the most part I

5:05

can be kind without feeling loving.

5:07

She has some dimension now and

5:09

while she can still be nasty

5:11

at times I find that I

5:13

care about that less and less.

5:15

I also recommend a sense of

5:17

humor it is very freeing to

5:19

be able to be able to

5:21

laugh. I agree with that. I

5:23

have had some guilt over taking

5:25

away her mother card, and sometimes

5:27

I have even worried that when

5:29

I leave this realm, the spirits

5:31

will sit me down and tell

5:33

me I had no right to

5:35

break this connection. But I don't

5:37

think that will happen, or at

5:39

least I hope not. I have

5:41

done my best. Ultimately, I am

5:43

at peace with my decision, and

5:45

it has been freeing and feels

5:47

essential for my survival. I'm sharing

5:49

this story because I imagine many

5:51

people may struggle with cord cutting

5:53

as I did because they may

5:55

think I may not see that

5:57

person's... I may... see that person

6:00

soon and how do I deal

6:02

with them since I've cut the

6:04

cord? Some people may need a

6:06

complete break with a person. Every

6:08

situation with a toxic person has

6:10

to be evaluated and people should

6:12

never tolerate abuse. I am sharing

6:14

this because in your work you

6:16

may meet someone for whom replacing

6:18

one cord with another may help

6:20

or maybe there's a listener who

6:22

can find my story useful in

6:24

their own journey. We continue to

6:26

learn from each other. Isn't that?

6:28

a beautiful email and a wonderful

6:30

idea? It is. And it's not

6:32

cutting someone out completely. It's redefining

6:34

the parameters of what she wants

6:36

the relationship to be in a

6:38

way that honors herself and honors

6:40

her mother. It's very healthy. It

6:42

is very healthy and I liked

6:44

that idea because Yes, so when

6:46

you do a traditional cord cutting

6:48

what you do is you want

6:50

to get yourself into a relaxed

6:52

meditative state and then you do

6:54

what's called an aura or body

6:56

scan and you just imagine yourself

6:58

standing outside of yourself and you're

7:00

looking at your body and you're

7:02

scanning it from an energetic sense

7:04

and you just ask for any

7:06

chords that are attached to you

7:08

to appear in your mind's eyes

7:10

you're doing this visualization. And it's

7:12

fascinating because I know for me,

7:15

especially in the beginning, I was

7:17

like, well, I'm not going to,

7:19

what is this? I don't know

7:21

where I'm going to see anything,

7:23

but you do. You always do.

7:25

and I think that's really really

7:27

interesting. And then you follow that

7:29

chord, again, in your mind's eye,

7:31

to see who it is attached

7:33

to. And you can often tell

7:35

from the chord. Some chords are

7:37

ropes, some are like thick heavy

7:39

chains, some are just beautiful energies

7:41

of pink or gold. And so

7:43

it's a really great thing just

7:45

to go into meditation and see

7:47

if you can sense, feel, or

7:49

visualize your own energetic chords. Sometimes

7:51

you can do a cord cutting

7:53

because you just know you're corded

7:55

to a person that is toxic

7:57

for you. And so what you

7:59

do... in that situation is you

8:01

visualize yourself sitting across from that

8:03

person and you ask to be

8:05

shown the cord that is connecting

8:07

the two of you. And then

8:09

you can cut that cord. with a

8:12

scissors, a sword, whatever symbolizes cutting

8:14

to you, and you pull the

8:16

remnants out of your own chakra

8:18

energy system, and you pull the

8:20

remnants out of their own chakra

8:22

energy system, and then you fill

8:25

your body with golden light to

8:27

seal it in so that they

8:29

cannot record to you. And what I

8:31

feel she's saying is, that's my mom,

8:33

and I still need to help her

8:35

and help my brother and be a

8:38

part of this family, and so cutting

8:40

that cord feels... uncomfortable

8:43

or disrespectful to her. And

8:45

so rather than cutting that

8:47

cord, she changed it. She

8:49

replaced it. I like the

8:51

symbolism she gave of moving

8:53

from a gold cord to

8:55

a bronze cord because it

8:58

changed her expectations. True. Isn't that

9:00

true? To all unhappiness in

9:02

relationships is our expectations

9:04

often don't meet reality?

9:07

Right and and the other part is you're

9:09

not the same person that you were when

9:11

your mother was having that impact on you

9:13

So I mean that saved my ass more

9:16

than once when I would look at

9:18

relationships that had taken a left turn

9:20

and think I can't be angry I'm the

9:22

one that changed They're still the same

9:24

person they've always been and I think

9:27

this is similar in the sense of

9:29

she's changing the color of this cord

9:31

so it's honoring to both but it's because

9:33

she's changed what her expectations and

9:35

and and how she wants to

9:37

take care of herself. Right,

9:40

exactly. And that's incredible.

9:42

I mean, for me, I'm a big

9:44

fan of Archangel Michael with this one.

9:46

I really am. That's always my

9:49

go-to with cutting chords is to

9:51

ask Archangel Michael to come in

9:53

and do it. And some people,

9:55

you know, I am independent

9:57

to a fault, but for some reason...

10:00

when it comes to chords, I

10:02

just call in the big guns

10:04

and let them take care of

10:06

it. No, I love to call

10:08

in Arkansas Michael. I call in

10:10

Arkansas Raphael to do the ceiling.

10:12

He's the angel of healing. And

10:14

I feel like sometimes there is

10:16

like a gap left in your

10:18

energy system after you cut that

10:20

cord. Because even negative chords become

10:22

comfortable after a while. We assimilate

10:24

to all of that. And you

10:26

made a really good point of...

10:28

pay attention to where you feel

10:30

something in your body. If you're

10:32

someone that's very sensitive to how

10:34

things impact your physical shell, you're,

10:36

you know, you pick up empathically

10:38

what someone else's pain might be,

10:40

that's a great indicator. And if

10:42

you're not seeing it, there's... When

10:44

you were speaking, I was thinking

10:46

about this is a great way

10:48

to practice, how do I process

10:50

the energy that comes in for

10:52

me? And if you're very clairvoyant,

10:54

you are going to see ropes

10:56

and chains and you're going to

10:58

see colors, or you might get

11:01

a sense of, or you might

11:03

get a knowing of, there isn't

11:05

a right or wrong in this

11:07

one. No, no, exactly. And some

11:09

people won't see the chords, but

11:11

they'll feel the chords. Right. And

11:13

that's interesting as well. And so

11:15

you have to just trust yourself

11:17

and trust the way your own

11:19

unique intuition works. And something we

11:21

always stress to people as well

11:23

is, unfortunately, this is not a

11:25

one and done process. So just

11:27

as chords were created, that might

11:29

be draining your energy after you

11:31

cut them, well, that person can

11:33

recreate that cord. And they're not

11:35

knowingly doing that. It's not like

11:37

they're whittling away at a voodoo

11:39

doll with cords on it, okay?

11:41

Like people don't know that they're

11:43

doing this. Whenever someone is thinking

11:45

about you too much in a

11:47

negative light, that's energy. Thoughts are

11:49

real, thoughts are things. Quantum physics

11:51

has taught us that, and that

11:53

energy has to go somewhere. And

11:55

one of the places it goes

11:57

is to cord with your energy.

12:00

And I think it's important that

12:02

you... to realize you don't have

12:04

to be in proximity to someone

12:06

for this to happen. This can

12:08

happen through... They can be deceased

12:10

as well. Yeah. You can still

12:12

be courted to aspects of people

12:14

who have crossed over. Right. And

12:16

I was working with someone over

12:18

the internet, over a zoom call

12:20

the other day. And after I

12:22

got off the call, I felt

12:24

wiped out. I felt depleted and

12:26

I don't usually, that rarely if

12:28

ever happens when I work with

12:30

people. and I realized that it

12:32

was accord, it was an energetic

12:34

connection and they were, it was

12:36

almost like they had turned the

12:38

tap on full and were draining

12:40

my energy right out of me.

12:42

And I, so when you feel

12:44

that immediacy of a change in

12:46

your energy or your mindset or

12:48

your demeanor or you speak to

12:50

some certain people and every time

12:52

you speak to them you end

12:54

up feeling low or depleted or

12:56

depressed, please pay attention to that.

12:59

Yeah, that's incredibly important. or toxic

13:01

relationships in our life. I mean,

13:04

the parent-child relationship is a really,

13:06

really big one. It's probably our

13:08

most important relationship. It sets up

13:11

the trajectory of the way we

13:13

think about ourselves, the way we

13:15

interact with others, the way we

13:18

talk to ourselves and interact with

13:20

the world. So that is an

13:22

incredibly important one. But we also

13:24

have important chords with siblings, with

13:27

children, with spouses, with ex-partners, and

13:29

we need to really look at

13:31

that. Do we want to just...

13:34

cut that cord or redefine that

13:36

cord in ways that make us

13:38

feel a little bit better or

13:41

more comfortable in this relationship. And

13:43

another really important point that this

13:45

person brings out is she's owning

13:48

that she's sending cords out, that

13:50

she reattached to her mother with

13:52

a different cord. And I think

13:54

so often we look at it

13:57

as being on the receiving end,

13:59

but equally we may consciously or

14:01

subconsciously or innocuously sending out

14:04

those chords as well? Oh

14:06

for sure yeah and and there's there's

14:08

a lot of esoteric writing

14:10

on temporary chords as well.

14:12

Do you ever just you're

14:14

walking through a place maybe you're

14:16

on vacation or something and

14:19

there's someone there that's just

14:21

negatively staring at you a

14:23

lot if you've experienced

14:26

that? They can temporarily cord to

14:28

you. That's why doing a

14:30

monthly cord cutting meditation is

14:32

so important because you could

14:34

have these little hangars on

14:36

of cord energy that needs

14:38

to be cut and cleansed as well.

14:41

Well, didn't that happen to you

14:43

in your yoga class? Yeah, and

14:45

I fell down. Right. Yeah.

14:47

power of energy and then

14:49

if it's funneled into this

14:51

corn that cord that directly

14:54

attaches onto your oric field

14:56

and you know the four

14:58

levels of the oric field

15:00

of being spiritual emotional physical

15:03

and mental is there is

15:05

there a depth difference with

15:07

where that cord is attaching

15:09

to the oric field? What do

15:11

you mean by that? Well there's

15:13

four levels to your or

15:15

And could some just be on

15:18

a courting on a spiritual

15:20

level? Could some be courting

15:22

on a physical level? I

15:24

think it would depend on

15:26

the intention behind the cord. Maybe.

15:29

No, that makes a lot of

15:31

sense. So do you think

15:33

like the parent child cord

15:35

goes through all those steps?

15:38

I would think so, because

15:40

it's, I mean, if you,

15:42

and I'm not discounting being

15:44

a... biological parent or an

15:46

adoptive parent or foster parent,

15:48

but if you've physically had

15:50

an umbilical cord connected

15:53

to someone, then damn, you've

15:55

got practice with the cording.

15:57

Yeah. That is really, very true.

16:02

That is very true. You know, there's

16:04

a book, I think I've mentioned it

16:06

on the show a couple of times,

16:08

it's called The Fantasy Bond. And

16:11

it's about dealing with toxic

16:13

parents. And the whole premise

16:15

of the book is that you will never

16:18

heal from your toxic parent

16:20

until you surrender the fantasy

16:23

of how it should be, of how your parents

16:25

should love you and treat you.

16:27

And until you sever that

16:29

fantasy, you're not going to heal.

16:32

And it reminds me of what

16:34

she said in the email about

16:36

how she had to switch her

16:38

expectation of who her mother could

16:40

be for her, and just relabeling

16:42

her mother to her aunt, that does

16:45

take away that expectation

16:47

of you should love me unconditionally,

16:49

you should be here for me,

16:51

you should be my greatest cheerleader,

16:54

you should be kind to me,

16:56

when it's just an aunt or

16:58

an uncle, that... definitely does change

17:01

the expectation. And so what she

17:03

was doing was exactly what that

17:05

famous book said, is she was

17:08

dropping the fantasy of

17:10

who she needed her mom to be.

17:12

And that's that's a really

17:14

hard thing, you know, that's

17:16

something that was a trend

17:18

I often saw in ratings.

17:21

People stuck in a perpetual

17:23

temper tantrum. And I don't mean

17:25

that literally. I mean, I

17:27

could energetically feel them stamping

17:29

their fee coin. This isn't

17:31

how it's supposed to be. And

17:33

then they would get stuck. And, you

17:36

know, it was so hard to help

17:38

them just accept and surrender that,

17:40

well, for right now, this is

17:42

how it is. So how can you

17:44

move through this and get on to

17:46

the next stage of your life? Don't

17:49

you see a lot of people stuck

17:51

in that energetic temper

17:53

tantrum? often, is it

17:55

just this lifetime or is it

17:57

something that you've gone through over?

18:00

and over again or there's

18:02

the ancestral part or there

18:04

is some the other dynamics

18:06

that just intensify that but

18:08

what you know it comes back to

18:11

of a lot of people might

18:13

not understand and and she was

18:15

really clear on saying some people

18:18

might need a complete break with

18:20

a person and and that is

18:22

a very personal decision if you

18:24

have to set those level

18:27

of boundaries with family, with

18:29

friends, with an ex, with

18:31

someone, then nobody else gets

18:33

a vote. You're the one that

18:35

has to live with that choice, and

18:38

I mean that as a positive.

18:40

You get to make that

18:42

decision, but socially and societyally,

18:44

there's often the expectation of,

18:47

oh, you need to make

18:49

amends, or oh, you can't

18:51

look at it that way. Well, hell

18:53

yes, you can. You might have

18:55

to. Exactly. Exactly. That

18:58

is part of our healing process

19:00

and we have a right to

19:02

that. Now keep in mind too

19:04

that you can also cut chords

19:06

to aspects of you that are

19:08

draining you. I mean sometimes we're

19:10

our own worst enemy, right? So

19:12

if you have a bad habit

19:14

or a critical, an inner critical

19:16

voice that you want to connect,

19:19

disconnect from, you can cut chords

19:21

to that as well. And now

19:23

I'm wondering... Instead of cutting

19:25

that cord to an aspect of

19:27

yourself, could we take our listener's

19:29

advice and just change that accord?

19:32

Right. And you know, the whole thing that,

19:34

you know, in mediumship, when you send out

19:36

a beam of light from your heart shocker

19:38

to the sitter or to the person in

19:41

spirit to make a more, to make a

19:43

stronger emotional connection when you're

19:45

trying to bring through messages

19:47

or make that link with

19:50

someone. Is that the same thing? Can

19:52

you send a cord of love? Can you

19:54

open up your heart trucker and send a

19:56

cord from your heart to someone that

19:58

is such a level of... and pure

20:01

love without judgment, even

20:03

if you're not feeling

20:06

it, is the act of sending

20:08

it going to shift

20:10

the energy of it?

20:12

Because you'll feel better

20:14

sending out that rather

20:16

than fear or loss

20:18

or grief or

20:21

expectations. Yeah, that's

20:23

absolutely true. I like

20:25

the way you put that. I

20:27

think that so many people are,

20:30

and this sounds so judgey-pie, but

20:32

it's honest, that at some point

20:34

you have to make a conscious choice

20:36

to say I'm not a victim in

20:38

this. These are the people in my

20:41

story. This is how I've been treated.

20:43

And if they are courting you in

20:45

a negative way, chances are

20:47

probably pretty strong that they're

20:50

not going to change because it's

20:52

working for them on some level.

20:55

Yeah, exactly. And that's

20:57

where we have to drop that

21:00

expectation. Right. And

21:02

until we do, I see

21:04

people getting stuck in their

21:06

life and stuck in that

21:08

thought process. And so I think

21:10

we need to really work

21:12

on recognizing, are you

21:14

in a stuck stagnant place in

21:17

this area of your life? Are

21:19

you refusing to move on because

21:22

this person isn't? giving

21:24

you everything you need or

21:26

living up to the expectations

21:28

you have and you need to

21:30

surrender that and maybe that's a

21:32

cord you need to cut first

21:34

before you move on to these other

21:36

cord cuts or changes. And

21:38

you know we're highly empathic

21:41

people. We're very sensitive. We

21:43

don't want to feel poorly.

21:45

We don't want other people

21:47

around us to feel poorly because

21:49

of emotional, what is

21:51

the emotional blackmail or negative

21:54

chords or manipulation and

21:56

control. We've been on

21:58

the receiving end of that. We

22:00

would never want to send that

22:02

to someone to experience. And

22:04

I wonder if part of this

22:07

is dealing, as you mentioned

22:09

a minute ago, re -changing the cords

22:11

with yourself, not as I started

22:13

this out with George Lizzo saying you

22:15

don't need to shield up to

22:17

protect yourself from cords or from other people's

22:19

energy, but how do

22:21

you make peace with,

22:23

okay, I'm this sensitive. How

22:26

do I, how do I

22:28

send that back? How do

22:31

I send that love out without fear

22:33

of being psychically

22:36

or intuitively attacked? Yeah.

22:40

And I think one way you can

22:42

do that is by sending some of

22:44

that love and light to yourself first,

22:46

so that you are loving and accepting

22:48

yourself before you even attempt to send

22:50

all of that good out into the

22:52

world. And, and you

22:54

can, I mean, I still do this

22:56

with people in spirit is I will

22:58

make a connection. These are people in

23:01

my own life that there may have

23:03

been some unrest. There may not. And

23:05

when I'm speaking to them in spirit

23:07

and I will, I'll say, I'm so

23:09

sorry for any pain I brought into

23:11

your life. That was never my

23:13

intention to cause any pain or

23:15

unrest for you, because it's

23:17

true, it's honest. And the more

23:19

you can own how you're

23:21

feeling about someone real genuine,

23:24

if you're pissed as hell

23:26

at someone because of the way

23:28

they treated you, or that you didn't

23:30

get the love you deserved, or you

23:32

didn't get the nurturing that we should

23:34

give to our children or to our

23:36

friends or our spouses fill in the

23:38

blank, then you

23:41

can still work on that.

23:43

You can still own your part,

23:45

but you can also let someone else

23:47

know that they might have had a

23:49

fragility that you aren't aware of. That's,

23:53

that's exactly right. I love

23:55

that. How

23:58

often do you do a cord

24:00

cutting? Whenever I feel slimmed, whenever

24:02

I feel... With certain

24:04

people that I speak with,

24:06

basically every time I

24:08

speak to them, you know, you're

24:11

wondering, well, why do you

24:13

still speak to them? Well,

24:15

that's kind of... It's not

24:18

something that can be avoided

24:20

at this point. It could

24:22

be, but I'm not willing

24:24

to do that. It's easier

24:27

just to have the

24:29

conversation. cut the cords and

24:31

shake my head and say, what the

24:33

hell was that all about? How

24:35

about you? Yeah, I'm the same way. I

24:37

try to do it, like, you know,

24:39

once a month, I try to do

24:41

like, I don't know, an overview, you

24:43

know, where I'll really work on my

24:46

chakras and do some cord cutting

24:48

and I'll smudge myself and,

24:50

you know, all of that.

24:52

And that's, that's really, really

24:54

helpful to me. So you're really

24:57

good about that though. You're

24:59

really good about routinely smudging

25:01

and clearing and spinning. Whereas

25:03

I tend to wait until,

25:06

uh-oh, something's wrong here. I

25:08

bet as smudge the shit out

25:10

of this. No, it's not that I'm

25:12

like really good at it. It's

25:14

just, you know, sometimes I feel

25:16

that buildup of energy from other

25:19

people on me. It's like a,

25:21

and I just have to trust that.

25:23

It's giving me a long time to

25:25

trust that. You know, it's like you

25:27

have an extra coat or layer

25:29

of energy around you. And that's when

25:31

I know I've got to do some,

25:34

I've got to do some crystal

25:36

work, some chakra work, and

25:38

some cord cutting. Do you ever

25:40

get a specific place physically

25:43

that you feel it? So if someone

25:45

is... sending me a lot of

25:47

negative energy or is talking about

25:49

me behind my back or is

25:51

stirring nasty stuff whatever not

25:54

unkind things I'll feel like I'll get

25:56

a sharp pain in the center of

25:58

my back which the pervert getting stabbed

26:00

in the back. If it's more

26:02

of an emotional thing I feel it

26:05

in my heart. Yes, yeah, I tend to,

26:07

the really negative ones are right

26:09

between my shoulder blades and down

26:11

a little bit. Okay. So yeah,

26:14

I guess that would be central of

26:16

the back. The emotional ones

26:18

like you said the heart

26:20

ones are, they're usually pretty

26:23

positive. And then when it's

26:25

someone toxic, it's either the

26:27

back or my solar plexus,

26:30

like they're trying to

26:32

put my will or my power.

26:34

And every once in a while,

26:36

I'll get it in my throat

26:39

or my third eye. And I wonder,

26:41

and because we teach a

26:43

lot, we work with a lot

26:45

of groups, we do a lot

26:48

of one-on-one work with folks.

26:50

You have your own Juju,

26:52

you don't need to take

26:54

somebody else's. Exactly. There's a

26:57

not for everyone voice growth. But

26:59

I do think that that can

27:01

be sometimes a thing where

27:04

someone wants to pull your

27:06

your connection or your and

27:08

you don't have to let

27:10

that happen. No, you definitely

27:12

do not. And you know, you

27:14

don't have to let that happen.

27:17

No, you definitely do not.

27:19

And you know, When I do

27:21

a cord-cutting meditation, I don't

27:23

ask to see all the chords.

27:25

And I don't know if that's right

27:27

or wrong, but this is my

27:29

process. I ask to see the

27:32

chords that are negatively affecting my

27:34

energy. Because again, I do believe

27:36

that we have a lot of positive

27:38

chords and we need to just leave

27:40

those alone or we can intentionally send

27:42

Reiki or healing energy or just beautiful

27:44

colors of like I said before pink

27:46

or green or gold through those courts

27:48

with that person gets a little boost

27:50

of love from us. But I think

27:52

for the most part we should leave those

27:54

alone. Now, sometimes I will do a

27:56

meditation where I just asked to see the

27:59

negative chords. that I've created

28:01

that are connected to me.

28:03

And very often those

28:05

are in my hips or

28:08

my knees. And I know

28:10

that those represent, those negative

28:12

chords are holding me back from

28:15

moving forward. Oh. Yeah. So

28:17

I think it's a good idea. to

28:19

set a specific intention for your cord cutting

28:21

meditation, not like, oh, I heard these ladies

28:23

talking about cord cutting on this podcast, I'm

28:26

gonna try it, because you might get a

28:28

little overwhelmed, or it might be so much

28:30

that your brain just gives you nothing.

28:32

And sometimes when your brain gets overwhelmed,

28:35

it just was like, nope, not gonna do

28:37

that. One of the visuals I'll get

28:39

a lot in readings if someone has

28:41

been doing a lot of... trying to

28:43

distance themselves from someone is I'll physically

28:45

feel like I need to pull these

28:47

roots out of my heart and it's

28:49

like pulling that cord and pulling

28:51

and pulling and that's can be

28:53

a shamanic or an earth energy

28:56

or an energy work practice is

28:58

to physically pull the chords out

29:00

not just cut them and then you're

29:02

pulling it's almost like pulling

29:04

the root right out as well. But

29:06

I think it's really important if you're

29:09

going to do that if you're going

29:11

to pull that out pull out that

29:13

energy Some people will burn it in

29:15

a violet flame some people will disperse

29:17

it to the universe But you do

29:19

need to as you said earlier seal

29:21

that spot where you pulled it out You

29:23

know what I'm seeing when you say that

29:26

have you ever seen those pictures of

29:28

the human body as a tree? Yes, and

29:30

the lungs are the roots. Yes That's what

29:32

I'm seeing as you're talking about that. I

29:34

do think some chords are that deeply rooted

29:36

and that's why I always say it is

29:39

not a one and done. No. If you're

29:41

deeply courted to someone like a parent

29:43

you might have to repeat the cord

29:45

cutting meditation several times. But the main

29:47

reason why we wanted to do this

29:49

show was not so much to talk

29:51

about cord cutting because we have addressed

29:54

that on past shows that you can look

29:56

at in our archives but to address this

29:58

listener suggestion of look at cord

30:00

cutting in a really different

30:02

way, where you just amend or

30:04

replace the cord with something

30:07

that's more suitable to

30:09

your energetic needs. So often

30:11

we're worried about being there for

30:13

everyone else, showing up for everyone

30:15

else, am I enough, am I

30:17

doing enough, am I pleasing everyone?

30:20

And that's lovely, but not really.

30:22

We need to show up for

30:24

ourselves first. We need to

30:26

be our own sacred best friend

30:28

first. And I like

30:30

her idea because to me,

30:33

that's a beautiful example of

30:35

radical self-care. It is. It is. And

30:37

it may be exactly what she

30:40

said. It's not a relationship that

30:42

you want to end. You

30:44

just want to change the

30:46

energy exchange between the two of

30:48

you. Right. Exactly. And that's

30:50

important. It's so similar when

30:53

I mentioned. There's someone that drains

30:55

me. That is... someone that has

30:57

been in my life a very

31:00

long time and it's not, there needs

31:02

to be a connection there. So it's

31:04

not toxic to the point

31:06

where I'm in danger or anything

31:09

like that and we're not, we

31:11

don't need to go into deep

31:13

detail. You're all intelligent people and

31:15

know if it's a situation that

31:17

needs more than just a cord

31:20

cutting. Right, exactly. Now

31:22

before we wrap up, can I give

31:24

some of my other metaphysical tips that

31:26

have helped me with these toxic people?

31:28

That would be fantastic. Okay, so I

31:30

think I've talked before about how you

31:32

can write the person's full name on

31:34

a piece of paper and then fold

31:36

it at least twice, folding each time

31:39

away from you. So you're pushing their

31:41

energy away from your own and put

31:43

it in a bottle of water or

31:45

a glass container of water, whatever... Tupperware

31:48

container you'd like and put that in

31:50

the freezer and that will effectively freeze

31:52

their energy from affecting yours. Something else

31:55

I've done is I'll take a little

31:57

bowl, a little container with a lid and

31:59

I write the person's full name and

32:01

I write, by sugar and spice, you

32:03

are always kind and nice to me.

32:05

And I put that in the bottom of

32:07

the bowl and I fill it with sugar

32:09

and cinnamon. And then I seal

32:11

it and sometimes I'll wrap it in

32:14

like a black ribbon or a red

32:16

ribbon to just like lock in that

32:18

energy and I just tuck it away

32:20

where it won't be disturbed. Another

32:22

thing you can do is get a

32:24

cactus plant and you bury it.

32:26

on the furthest perimeter of the front

32:28

of your house. So usually in front

32:30

of your mailbox. And that, because you

32:33

never want to have a cactus plant

32:35

in your home, that's not good feng

32:37

shui, for something, you know, if you

32:39

believed win all of that, which I

32:41

tend to. The cactus plant needles keeps

32:43

negative energy out at bay, so you

32:46

want to do that. And some people

32:48

recommend writing their name on a piece

32:50

of paper and burying it underneath that

32:52

cactus plant. So it's going to protect.

32:54

their energy from affecting your home.

32:57

So those are just my

32:59

little metaphysical tips for dealing

33:01

with toxic people. Not that I

33:03

have experience with that or

33:06

anything. Oh wait, I have one

33:08

more. Okay. Sorry. You can get a

33:10

box that's, that's the inside is mirrored.

33:13

So you can either get a

33:15

craft box or say a jewelry

33:17

box that you hold a necklace

33:19

or a necklace or a bracelet

33:21

or a bracelet or just. you

33:23

know, glue little mirrors from a

33:25

craft store in there, or there's

33:27

actually a lot of makeup lipstick brands

33:29

where you open up the lipstick

33:31

case and it's mirrored already, which

33:34

is great. But you want to get a

33:36

box that has mirrors on the inside of

33:38

it, at least one, and then you

33:40

write that person's full name and

33:42

put it in the box and

33:44

that mirror will deflect any negative

33:46

energy they're sending to you right

33:48

back to the source. Okay. This is

33:50

random, but... Whatever happened

33:53

with the little

33:55

coffins that you

33:57

were going to use?

34:00

the craft boxes I thought oh I wonder

34:02

what they did with the coffins. Okay so

34:04

for New Year's Eve my girls and

34:06

I have all these rituals we do our

34:08

bowl birding ceremony we do our flying witch

34:11

papers we start our vision boards and I

34:13

thought you know this year instead of

34:15

doing a bullbirding ceremony it'd be

34:17

really neat if we I so

34:19

I ordered on Amazon these little

34:21

coffins they're just you know unfinished

34:24

wood tiny tiny coffins and I

34:26

thought it'd be fun if we

34:28

wrote down everything we just want

34:30

to bury like remember that famous

34:32

story from the 90s Kant's burial.

34:34

And the teacher had all the

34:36

students write down everything they felt

34:38

they couldn't do. Like, I can't

34:40

read well or I can't do

34:43

math. And she had them all

34:45

bury it, like saying, that's dead.

34:47

That's gone. That's not who you are

34:49

anymore. You can read. You can do

34:51

math. So I thought it would be

34:53

kind of that type of a ritual.

34:55

Does that make sense? Yes. We could

34:57

paint them or write stuff on the

34:59

coffins that we were really ready to

35:02

let go of. two feet by three

35:04

feet. They were so obnoxiously

35:06

big and I have all

35:09

my Christmas decorations up and

35:11

then sitting on the table

35:13

are these like giant craft

35:15

coffin boxes and my kids

35:17

were like mom what now

35:19

and I'm like alright here's

35:21

my idea but you know

35:24

it's fine it's creepy it's

35:26

weird I'll get smaller boxes

35:28

so for right now the

35:30

coffin boxes have been donated.

35:32

And I'm going to try to

35:34

recreate it when I find tiny

35:37

coffins. Okay. It just did not

35:39

work out. Okay. It was just

35:41

I know that we had had

35:44

that... I didn't even like

35:46

dig holes this big. But

35:48

it's good that they found a

35:50

home that they were donated.

35:52

Can you imagine what the

35:54

people at Goodwill thought when

35:57

they opened up that? Oh my

35:59

goodness. Because I remember

36:01

we had this conversation, and

36:03

I just thought there were

36:06

probably some listeners that wonder

36:08

what they ever did with those coffins.

36:10

Maybe we thought if I, I thought

36:13

it was like two inches by

36:15

three inches. I didn't read

36:17

the footmark correctly. That's

36:19

a big coffin. It's a big

36:21

coffin. Yeah. So we're gonna, we're just

36:24

gonna do a big old redo on

36:26

that. Yes. and I'm sure that there's

36:28

in your new life and your new

36:30

experience this will be perfect. It was

36:33

yeah it'll work out just fine and

36:35

so we just did our bull burning

36:37

and if anyone's like flying wish papers

36:39

a lot of you can buy them

36:41

online you can buy them in a

36:43

lot of metaphysical stores have you ever

36:45

worked with flying wish papers? No. It's

36:47

so so fun so we do them

36:49

at New Year's Eve and then we

36:51

do them on birthdays. So after you

36:53

do cakes, the birthday girl gets to

36:55

do a flying wish paper, you write

36:57

down your wish for the year and

36:59

you roll it up into a perfect

37:01

little cone shape towards you to pull

37:03

that energy towards you, you put

37:05

it on this little cardboard paper

37:07

that they provide, and then you

37:09

light it on fire. And it goes

37:11

up, up, up into the year,

37:13

and it just disintegrates into tiny

37:15

little ashes. Oh. Your mom magically

37:17

cleans later on. And so

37:19

what we do is we go

37:22

around the table, we all light

37:24

our flying wish papers, and we

37:27

say whomever's, whomever's rises the fastest,

37:29

their wish will come true first.

37:31

Oh. And it tends to be

37:33

accurate. Yeah. Hmm. So just something

37:35

to consider. Well, and

37:38

maybe that's something we could

37:40

do with chords when we

37:42

just when we cut these

37:44

chords Just picture them shooting

37:46

out into the ethers into

37:48

something into space And yeah

37:50

just into tiny little ashes

37:52

and Samantha will come with

37:54

her magical vacuum and vaccine

37:56

them all up Well, we hope

37:58

you guys have enjoyed this We think

38:00

our listener so, so much. It's

38:02

always exciting when we can learn

38:04

new ideas and concepts from listeners

38:06

because, gosh Denise, we've read so

38:08

many books on cord cutting. The

38:10

first time I ever read about

38:12

it is in one of Shirley

38:14

McLean's first books from like the

38:16

80s. She has a beautiful guided

38:18

meditation and her book about going

38:20

into a garden and walking onto

38:22

a stage and seeing the person

38:24

you need to cut chords from.

38:26

And that's the first time I

38:28

encountered it. I think Denise Lynn writes

38:30

beautifully about cord cutting too. She has a

38:33

hook on it. Yes, she does. So

38:35

we've read and studied and practiced so

38:37

much about court cutting throughout both our

38:39

lives and this is a brand new

38:41

concept to us and I just absolutely

38:44

love that. It reminds me that we

38:46

are all in this together and why

38:48

we do this show is to continue

38:50

fostering this community. So thank you guys

38:53

so much. If you have an example

38:55

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38:57

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38:59

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39:02

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39:08

week everyone. Cut those chords

39:10

and remember as always to

39:12

show up, do great work,

39:14

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