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healers, intuitives, and seekers. Welcome
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to Enlightened Empaths. Today we're going
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to be talking about signs that
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animals are working with you. One
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of the top ways we get
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signs from our loved ones and
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spirit is from animals and birds.
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So today we're going to be
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talking about some of the most common animals
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that seem to come through as messengers and
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what they symbolize. I
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think there's been some confusion for a lot of
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folks whether an animal is a sign from a
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loved one and spirit or is it
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just a sign for us that they're trying to give
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us a little message or some insight. I think it
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can be both. Yeah,
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I do too. I think two things can be true
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at the same time. That's why it's
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really important to pay attention to your intuition,
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to pay attention to how you feel when
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you see that sign, and
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to really be cognizant of what's going on in
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your life at that moment, what were you thinking
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about. If you
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see an animal that you often associate
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with your grandmother but you haven't
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been thinking about your grandmother if you're honest with
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yourself, then it might not be your grandmother. But
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if you've been missing her or you just told
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a story about her or a birthday
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or anniversary connected to her is
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coming up, then that could be a
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sign from your grandmother. So you have to kind of take
1:48
in a lot of factors. Right,
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and I think too if you
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have a conversation, I know
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a lot of people will say, I'll come back
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as a butterfly. I'll let you know it's me. or
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I'll come back as a hummingbird or I'll like
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people will set that up ahead of time. Well,
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then you kind of have a shoe in of
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knowing that it's your person. Right. Exactly.
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Have you done that? Did you tell your kids?
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I think that kind of an indicator
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is if you get a spontaneous feeling
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or thought of a specific loved one
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when you see an animal. So you
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see a blue jay and you immediately
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think of someone that you love in
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spirit or that they loved blue jays
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or whatever it might be.
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Does a hawk fly over every time
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you go past your grandparents house? Do
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you a certain animal show up around,
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as you said, birthdays, anniversaries or celebrations,
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or when you're struggling to try to figure something out?
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Because I think these can all be visits
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from loved ones and also a sign a
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message from spirit in general.
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Yeah, I agree. And sometimes
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they can be confusing. I'm still trying
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to figure out, I think I shared
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with you my Fox stories. Yeah, yeah,
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I still real quick, I was
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driving to pick up Chloe from a friend's house
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late one night, and a Fox ran out on
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the road and just stopped and stared at me
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and I had this like, it was
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weird. It was almost like the Fox was like putting
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a mess it was weird. I just
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knew that something bad was coming up with
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my dad's health. And shortly
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after his health took a dip and a
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bad turn and you know, he did pass
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away. And then about a
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year later, I'm coming home late one
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night from a friend's house and same
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thing different road, different neighborhood, a Fox
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runs out stops and stares at me. And I
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got this really strong feeling that my mom
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had just a couple of weeks left
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to live. And I was like, what
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the heck is happening? And then my mom was
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doing okay at that time. And she
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did pass very, very quickly
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after that. At my mom's
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funeral, we're driving
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away from the cemetery in its
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daylight. And there's two foxes by
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the gate to the cemetery just
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staring at us. Wow.
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Yeah. But you wouldn't
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associate fox that way. Fox
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is usually associated with other
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insights. Right. I don't know.
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I love that though. I love that they
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were so clear on making sure they got
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your attention. Yeah, they sure did. And
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I think for, you know, a lot
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of times spirit animals are messengers and
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they're just another resource for us and
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they do want to help us and we can call
4:33
on them for guidance. So from
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what I've found from personal experience and from
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folks I've talked with over the years, if
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you have a really deep connection to
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the natural world, animals seem to foster
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a sense of trust and surety that
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you might not always feel from people
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or in your everyday environment. I
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agree. That's so true. Animals
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give us a sense that there's
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more to this world than the
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hustle and bustle. And
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I think for me anyway, when I'm
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out in nature and I see certain
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animals, it reminds me to pause and
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to give thanks. I always feel so grateful.
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When I see a hawk flying or when
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a bluebird lands on my mailbox or
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a butterfly sits on my jasmine
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in my backyard, I feel so grateful and it
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makes me exhale in a deeper way. The
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way you just described that, it's a
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wonderful reminder to be present, to be
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aware, to be observing your
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surroundings, to be part of your
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surroundings. That's
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how I was walking the dog out back
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the other day and stopped and there was
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a deer standing just literally 25 feet
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away. And
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surprisingly, the dog looked at the deer. The
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deer looked at the dog. Nobody lost their
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mind and we just kind of looked
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at each other for a few minutes. But
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I didn't pull out my phone and try to
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take a picture and I didn't. It
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was just, it was a moment. but
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it stopped me and it made things to be
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part of your surroundings. And that's
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how I was walking the dog out back
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the other day and stopped and there was
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a deer standing, just literally 25
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feet away. And
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surprisingly, the dog looked at the deer, the
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deer looked at the dog, nobody lost their
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mind. And we just kind of looked
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at each other for a few minutes. But
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I didn't pull out my phone and try to
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take a picture and I didn't. It
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was just, it was a moment but
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it stopped me and it made me aware of how
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lucky am I to live in a place where, and I
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live in town right now, that there
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would be a deer in the yard. You
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know, gentle new beginnings. We did a
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show on animals quite a while back
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and there were some listeners reached out
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and there was some confusion about is
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it a spirit animal, a totem
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animal, a power animal. In
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a lot of shamanic and indigenous
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cultures, spirits are often referred to
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as totem animals or power animals.
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And they're seen as interchangeable terms, but
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there are subtle differences because
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often, from what I understand, from what
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I've read, from what I've been told over
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the years, a total animal is
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typically one shared by a family, a
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clan or a group. So in
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a lot of the indigenous cultures, the family you
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were born into will have
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a totem animal in common. The
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modern version of that is look how
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many sports teams and schools have an
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animal mascot that everyone unites
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under, unites with. Oh,
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that's true. I didn't compare those
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two that way. That's interesting. A
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lot of times people will have totem
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animals can be represented like something you'll
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have a little statue or you'll have
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a little picture. You'll have a figurine
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of that animal and you'll put it
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on an altar or you might collect
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frogs. You
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know how some people are really drawn to a
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certain animal and they'll have little figurines and stuff
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of it. That can be... a
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representational totem animal. And the example
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that I read, which I thought
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made sense, was we give
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kids a teddy bear for comfort. Isn't that
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kind of a totem when you think about
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it? That's true. But power
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animals are more a specialized
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animal guide that shamans and
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shamanic practitioners work closely with
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when you're going into those altered states
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of awareness in a shamanic journey. But
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we all have a power animal that accompanies
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our life. And for me,
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I look at it as another member of the
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team of helpers who want to support us and
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guide us and help us with our life experiences.
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So you really don't have to be a shaman
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or a practitioner, or even
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have a relationship with a power animal
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in that way, they're going to still
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be there to help you. Yeah, that's
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true. And they can often come to
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you in dreams, meditations, visions or journeys.
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And so it doesn't mean that, you know,
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your power animal might be a panther, well,
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you're probably not going to see a panther
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in your everyday life. And it can still
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be a power animal for you that that
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shows up in a lot of different
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unique ways. Right. And
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there's a belief that we're all born with
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a power animal. If you have
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a certain affinity or connection or, and
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what I always always say to people
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and what I love, none
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are better or worse than another. Like people
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want a big power. Oh, I have a
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Jaguar, I have this, I have that. You
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might end up with something that is I
9:29
get an octopus, or you might get a
9:31
mouse, or you might get something that isn't
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deemed a real traditional strong
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power, but it's the one that aligns
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with your energy and the lessons you
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came into work on in
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this lifetime, which I think is really
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important. So
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our power animals with us from the beginning to
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the end. That's the
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way I understand it. Yes. I
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feel like that's true. And I also feel like
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some animals will show up at different stages of
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your life. Very much so. You
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know, like I remember when I was going through a
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really, really busy time and I knew I needed to
10:04
take a break, but I just didn't know how. I
10:07
kept seeing sloths everywhere. Huh.
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Like, you know, those cute little videos,
10:13
the way they stretch and the way they're
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so lazy and sleeping. Whenever
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I'd scroll through Instagram or TikTok or people
10:19
would send me little YouTube clips of these
10:22
adorable little on the sloth babies. Oh my
10:24
gosh. And it was like two weeks of
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three weeks of this going on. And I
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finally was like, Oh, wait a minute. I
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think that's my guides telling me I've got
10:33
to slow down a little bit, but
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that wouldn't be a power animal. That would be more
10:38
of a sign. Correct. Yes. That's
10:40
where I would take it. Yes. And you're
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right. It's going to be whatever your animal
10:45
is that walk and you can use it in meditation,
10:47
in journey work, in your
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everyday life, because it's the
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attributes of the animal that
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are going to give you the strength and power or
10:56
the insights that you need in your own life. It's
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really a incredibly interesting
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topic to think about, especially
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when you can go back to all
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the indigenous cultures that have
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different belief systems around this
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and mythology with animals in
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the connection and different religions.
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It's very, very interesting. So
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it's just a spiritual ally that are here
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to offer support and
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guidance. So if you're
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really drawn to animals or the natural world,
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this might be an easy
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thing for you to work with. But
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we've talked about this a lot when an
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animal shows up just unexpectedly or it's
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doing something that that animal doesn't usually
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do. That can be a
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sign if they show up at three times in a
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short period of time. So with the sloth, it
11:44
kept showing up randomly. There was
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no pattern to it. Yeah, I wasn't seeking it
11:49
out. Right. And you
11:51
weren't thinking about sloths. You weren't thinking about
11:53
being overwhelmed. It was almost like, okay, she
11:55
hasn't quite got it yet. Send
11:57
her another picture of a sloth. The little
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baby's always the like they're smiling to me.
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Oh, they do. It's so cute. And like
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you could say, well, Samantha, that's called an
12:06
algorithm. Right. And they noticed you pausing over
12:08
that video. But I would have like my
12:10
kids sent me a couple, one of my
12:12
friends sent me a card
12:14
that had a sloth, you know, it said like,
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just hang in there. So
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I don't know, I feel like there was something
12:20
more to it. Well, I shared
12:22
with you before we started recording that I had
12:24
done in person group reading recently
12:26
for some people I've known for quite a while.
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And I was halfway through the reading and bring someone through
12:31
and this man was there and he was very quiet. The
12:34
woman's husband was there and he just said, so
12:36
does it mean anything that about 50
12:38
doves just landed in the yard? And
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I laughed because a couple
12:42
days prior to that I had heard
12:45
from spirit, I was asking for a sign and
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I heard dove and I hadn't seen a dove
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and I don't see a lot of doves where
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I live. And I said to the man, I
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said, do you usually get a lot of doves
12:55
here? And he said, well, we'll usually get one
12:58
or two. I've never seen that many doves together
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before, especially here. So was that
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spirit getting my attention? I would like to think
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so. Oh, good. Denise,
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I don't want to be your spirit guide if you have
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to ask that question. Everybody
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let's pause for a moment
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of prayer for Denise's spirit guides.
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Yes, that was definitely your side.
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But I always go ahead. No, no, go
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ahead. I get confused
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because I've always had dreams of
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wolves or one wolf. I have
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a dream where I'm walking with this wolf by my
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side. And I always assumed
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he was my guide, my animal guide.
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But I see hawks all the
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time in real life
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when I'm asking for certain signs or
13:42
if, I don't know, they just,
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I see them all the time, whether
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I'm in my state, whether
13:49
I'm traveling to a different state, they're just
13:51
all around me. So I always wonder, is
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the hawk my guide? Is the wolf my
13:55
guide? They both could be, but
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there would be a primary. If you've dreamt about...
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it and it's walking with you and it
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feels that strong, I would say yes. Have
14:04
you ever done a journey to meet your
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power animal? No, I probably should. Okay. Because
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that was, there's, that's an easy thing to
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do. And if you do
14:13
the journey and you see the animal,
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I believe it's four times unexpectedly or
14:17
some, and I think that's important because
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what I've experienced, what other people have
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experienced, if you're in that meditative state
14:23
to make that connection, the spirit's
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going to use the same way that
14:28
you process intuitively. So if you're really
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clairaudient, you might hear a
14:33
wolf howl, or you might see a
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flash of the
14:37
tail, or you might feel like
14:39
the way that they move through the woods.
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So it's going to use however your clairs
14:44
are attuned to you to bring
14:46
through the animal. I
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need to try that. The reason why I haven't is
14:51
because I've had all these dreams of this wolf with
14:53
me and he's got like white,
14:55
gray, and black fur is
14:57
because I just assume my subconscious will show me
14:59
the wolf because that's what I think. Not
15:03
necessarily. Okay. Because I've done this with people
15:05
and they've expected to see, oh, I know
15:07
my animal is this, and then they'll get
15:09
something completely different. For me, I've had the
15:12
same power animal for decades and decades. That
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is the one that I use to go
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into journey work, that I
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can feel that energy even in
15:21
everyday reality. But there are
15:23
other animals that come in. It's interesting
15:25
you brought up the hawks because when
15:28
I lived in Washington state, I was
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making some really huge decisions in my
15:32
life. Very, very big,
15:35
life changing. Hawks
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would come and literally sit
15:40
right outside my kitchen door
15:43
where hawks shouldn't have set. Now, they start
15:45
watching them. The more you do this,
15:47
the more you get attuned to what kind of hawk
15:49
is it. Is this their environment? There
15:52
was a hawk there that wasn't even from
15:54
that part of the country. I
15:58
looked it up and I spent time. I
16:00
figured it out. And honestly, it
16:02
was a huge part in helping me make
16:04
some of those decisions. Yeah. So
16:07
again, if you have an affinity
16:09
for animals, or you
16:11
have difficulty trusting humans, but you trust
16:13
animals more, this might be a good
16:15
thing for you to explore. So
16:21
one thing that you always stress is that an
16:23
animal should show up in an uncommon way, about
16:26
three times in a short period of
16:29
time. Right. Should we give people ideas?
16:31
Because that doesn't just mean in person.
16:34
Right. Because it could be the example
16:36
I would use is I don't have
16:38
armadillos in my part of the country.
16:40
They don't live here. It's too cold.
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But when I was camping down
16:45
south, a little armadillo
16:47
waddled into my campsite, unexpected, boop,
16:49
boop, boop, here he comes. And
16:51
they're very, if you don't have,
16:53
if animals aren't common to
16:55
your area when you see them, it's very,
16:57
very interesting and intriguing. But I
17:00
looked it up and it was absolutely spot on
17:03
with what was going on with have
17:05
a stronger shell, the soft underbelly, all
17:07
the things that go with armadillo. But
17:10
about three days after that, I
17:13
opened something up and armadillo popped up,
17:15
like on a meme or something like
17:18
that. I was walking in
17:20
a line and someone was talking about
17:22
having armadillo under their porch. So if
17:24
it could show up in
17:26
conversation, it could show up physically,
17:28
it could be symbolic, it
17:31
could be someone all you have a dream
17:33
about it. But it doesn't have to mean
17:36
that you actually see that animal in
17:38
person. All
17:41
right, so are we going to talk about what some of these
17:43
animals could mean? I'd love that. Yeah. And
17:45
I, I pulled together some
17:47
and there's so many. So I think today
17:49
we're going to talk about a lot of
17:52
birds, a lot of things that come through
17:54
flight, birds and insects and things. But
17:57
these are from a variety of
17:59
resources, animals. Speak an Animal Wise
18:01
by Ted Andrews, The Pocket Spirit
18:03
Guide to Animals by Dr. Stephen
18:05
Farmer. You can also
18:07
Google metaphysical
18:09
or spiritual meaning of a given animal,
18:12
and it's going to bring up a
18:14
whole lot of resources for you. Okay,
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so the first one we have is the cardinal.
18:20
And these birds are named for the cardinals
18:22
of the Roman Catholic Church with their bright
18:25
red robes. They're bright and
18:27
they really stand out. So is
18:29
that a way for those in spirit to grab
18:31
our attention? If they come in
18:33
as a pair with the lighter brown of the
18:35
female in contrast to the bright red of the
18:37
male, is this a message from
18:40
spirit about relationships? Some
18:42
people believe the pairs come together are parents
18:44
or grandparents who are letting you know they're
18:46
still together in the afterlife. Cardinals
18:48
can also be a sign that someone needs
18:51
your compassion and loving attention, or
18:53
it can be an indicator that you're in
18:55
a very creative time and to pay attention
18:57
to your intuitive guidance as
18:59
to how best to use this creativity.
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I had also read that the Cardinals
19:05
cry or their song, I
19:08
should say, sounds like Miss You
19:10
Miss You. And so that's
19:12
why it came up, came
19:14
to be known as a sign from a loved one in heaven,
19:16
which I thought was very sweet. But
19:19
haven't you found that many, many,
19:21
many people feel that their cardinal
19:23
is their person in spirit? Yes.
19:26
Oh, yes. Well, my former
19:28
mother-in-law told me, she said, I'll try to
19:30
show you a cardinal. Does
19:33
she? Yeah. Oh,
19:35
yeah, she does all
19:37
the time. We actually have a cardinal mommy
19:39
and daddy that have nested shortly
19:42
after she passed away. Wow.
19:45
Yeah. And
19:47
it's not as common to see pairs. No.
19:49
Maybe certain times of the year, but it's not
19:51
as common. No. But the
19:53
female one, she bosses. She
19:56
bosses him around. It's so funny. She hops
19:58
around in the fence and like he hops away from her. her. But
20:02
they are really bright. They catch your eye.
20:04
If they're at your bird
20:06
feeder or they're showing up in an unusual
20:09
way, or it seems like they're looking right
20:11
in the window at you. That
20:13
could also be a sign that they're a
20:15
visit from someone in spirit. Yeah, it'll be
20:17
little things. Like someone gave me a red
20:20
Cardinal ornament. Someone once
20:22
had a beautiful lilies delivered
20:25
to my house, the peace lily plant. And
20:27
it had a red Cardinal on a stick like
20:29
in the plant. I've gotten cards with the red
20:32
Cardinal on it. So I think when our loved
20:34
ones are trying to say, Hey, I love you.
20:36
I'm still with you. They'll do it in a
20:38
lot of different ways. I
20:40
agree. Blue Jays are another, you know,
20:42
they're really bright blue, they catch your
20:44
eye. And they can
20:47
come as a messenger about using your
20:49
own power properly. They can show up
20:51
to bring awareness of power
20:53
possibly being used against you. And the
20:56
blue Jay is seen as having the ability to
20:58
link heavens and earths to access the greater power
21:00
of each. It can be a
21:02
message about accessing your main gifts and talents and
21:04
to develop a plan on how you can best
21:07
use them to clear action. And you
21:10
know, it they're seen as blueberries and
21:12
robbers and stuff. But what
21:14
I loved was in all these
21:16
different cultures and belief systems around
21:18
them. And the word Jay comes
21:20
from the Latin word Gaia, which
21:22
has associates to Mother
21:25
Earth. And in Greek mythology, the union
21:27
of Mother Earth Gaia and Father Heaven,
21:30
Uranus resulted in the first creatures who
21:32
had the appearance of life. So it's
21:34
that intrinsic power associated with the Jay,
21:36
but you know, the blue sky separating
21:38
the heavens, which are white and the
21:40
earth, which is black. So
21:42
it really is there's a lot of
21:44
symbolism often in the colors or the
21:47
mannerisms or the habits of the animals
21:49
that come to us. Oh,
21:51
that's so cool. And then
21:53
owls. Oh, I you know, sometimes you'll tell people
21:56
you see an owl and they're like, Oh, that's
21:58
an omen of death. But
22:00
that's not always true. The
22:03
mystery of magic, omens, silent wisdom,
22:05
and vision in the night is what
22:07
they symbolize. There are references
22:10
in all cultures to the mysticism of
22:12
owls. In the Medicine Card Deck
22:14
by Jamie Sams and David Carson, owl
22:16
medicine is symbolically associated with clairvoyance,
22:19
astral projection, and magic, both black
22:21
and white. If you have
22:23
a strong connection to owls or they're making themselves
22:25
known to you, pay attention to
22:27
what kind of owl it is. Because
22:30
there are specific nuances and this will help
22:32
you determine what they are here to help
22:34
you with. All owls
22:36
indicate it being a significant time
22:38
for prophecy. When
22:43
we first moved to northern
22:46
Florida and it was, you
22:49
know, when you're moving, you have little kids, this different stuff.
22:51
And there was an owl that would sit outside
22:53
the boy's bedroom. And
22:56
it always struck me that it was there and they
22:58
would sit and they'd look at the owl and it
23:00
was there and it stayed for quite a while. Does
23:04
an animal come back into your life? Does it
23:06
show up again? Is it there only for a
23:08
short period of time? Have
23:10
the owls come back to your boys? To
23:13
one of them, yes. Oh, that's really cool. Denise
23:17
and I just want to pop in and
23:19
tell you guys about some exciting events and
23:21
classes we have coming up in the new
23:23
year. On January 8th,
23:25
I'm teaching my manifesting class to
23:27
help kickstart your new year goals.
23:30
With this live class that's taught
23:32
in person over Zoom, you get
23:34
my manifesting goals ebook. You get
23:36
a meditation to help you align
23:38
your subconscious with your goals. You
23:41
get a chance to ask me
23:43
questions about manifesting blocks and
23:45
learn how to really set your
23:47
2025 in the best possible energy.
23:50
So the four Wednesdays in February, I'm
23:52
teaching my Be Your Own Psychic class
23:55
where you really learn how to
23:57
embrace, awaken, and strengthen your intuition.
24:00
You'll get some partner work,
24:02
you'll get some individual exercises
24:04
and some fantastic feedback. And
24:07
also in February, on
24:09
the two Saturdays in February,
24:12
we're going to be doing
24:14
our class on mediumship with
24:16
Denise and myself. That's Saturday,
24:18
February 8th and February 22nd.
24:21
I'm so excited to teach this again with
24:23
you. Oh, it's fun. We always have
24:25
a good time when we do this one. And
24:28
it's a beautiful stepping off point if you
24:30
think, am I a medium? Am
24:32
I not a medium? It's a really nice
24:35
place to explore that. Yeah,
24:37
I think so too. You learn really
24:39
how to embrace your mediumship in a
24:41
very safe and supportive environment. And because
24:44
we're doing it on Saturdays, there's a
24:46
little bit of extra time where we're
24:48
hoping to do some in-class partner exercises.
24:51
But like our other classes, you'll have
24:53
some out-of-class partner exercises as well. Oh,
24:56
and I also, in January on the
24:58
25th, if anyone's in the Northeast, I'm going
25:01
to be in Virginia. I'm
25:03
going to be presenting Saturday
25:05
night at Edgar K.C.A.R.E. on
25:07
manifesting. Oh, perfect.
25:10
And I just want to put a shameless plug in
25:12
for you. If anyone is looking for a wonderful
25:15
gift for someone around the holidays,
25:17
Samantha's book, The Awake Dreamer
25:19
and Heavily Alliance are incredible and
25:22
would make a beautiful gift. So
25:24
they can find those through your
25:27
website? Yes, they're signed and
25:29
they come with fun stickers and a bookmark
25:31
with a poem I wrote on the back
25:33
of it. And I just, I
25:35
love, they all come gift wrap. I get
25:37
so excited every time someone orders a signed
25:39
book. So thank you, Denise. You're so sweet.
25:41
Oh, you're welcome. You're welcome. And the past
25:44
three years, I've offered a really
25:46
intensive mentoring program for a small group
25:48
of people. You know, I've been
25:50
studying and doing this work for a while now, and
25:52
I've taken so many classes and trainings that it's my
25:55
way to share what I've learned. But
25:57
even more importantly, it's about helping each person
25:59
find. how they best connect
26:01
with spirit. In the
26:03
past, it's been a six-month program, and
26:05
each month, every person gets a one-on-one
26:07
coaching session with me for
26:10
their own personal growth and development.
26:12
There are two monthly group meetings,
26:14
and the first part of the
26:16
meeting is direct instruction where I
26:18
share practices or techniques to
26:20
help you develop your own connection more fully. But
26:24
the second half is more of a
26:26
shared, it's practice, it's building community. We
26:29
also, if there's an interest, we've
26:31
explored business components. There's a monthly
26:33
class that we have as a
26:35
group. Everything's recorded and uploaded,
26:37
so if you're not able to be
26:40
there in person. The big part that
26:43
I think my favorite though is that
26:45
this is a real way to build
26:47
community. We have shared
26:49
practice sessions with previous mentor groups worked
26:52
into the schedule as well. So if
26:54
you're interested in that and would like
26:56
more information, please send me an email
26:59
with mentor program 2025 in the
27:01
subject line, and I'll send you
27:03
back some information. It is
27:06
a small group. It's limited to 20
27:08
people, so you really get to know
27:10
the folks. It's fun. It's fun and
27:12
it's important, and the feedback on that
27:14
has been stupendous. I hear from your
27:16
former students all the time, if they
27:18
send us a question, they'll mention that
27:20
they were in that group, and I
27:22
just think it's just a beautiful
27:25
service you're offering. Thank you, and
27:27
I love that my, truly it touches
27:29
my heart that I see the
27:32
groups and the friendships and the connections
27:34
that have happened outside of
27:36
that little program. People
27:39
have been writing books together
27:41
and teaching classes and unbelievable
27:43
stuff. It's so exciting,
27:45
and we get the nicest people. We
27:48
do. You know, I always,
27:50
in the Be Your Own Psychic and the
27:52
Mediumship classes, I always, you and
27:54
I both, encourage them to keep
27:56
meeting online together on the
27:58
Zoom. We're like, well, you already have this Zoom
28:00
link, like just keep meeting together and supporting one
28:02
another. And I was teaching a
28:05
class a couple of months ago, and one
28:08
of the students in there popped in the chat
28:10
that she was in my Be Your Own Psychic, and
28:12
she's still monitoring the meetup
28:14
groups that they do, and she invited
28:16
anyone in that class to come join
28:18
them. How sweet is that? It's incredible.
28:23
So that's after the first of the year. Right
28:26
now, I have some self-paced courses
28:28
on my website that are online.
28:30
There's a lot of good information. Keep in
28:32
mind, they were done by an old lady
28:34
in Maine, so they're not studio quality, but
28:38
sometimes that makes it a little more entertaining. From
28:40
Black Friday in November through the month
28:43
of December, if you use the coupon
28:45
code JOY, they're 25% off, there is
28:47
an option to give these to other
28:50
people as well. So there's four
28:52
or five different classes that, again,
28:55
if you're looking for a base of knowledge,
28:57
there's a lot of handouts, there's some practice
28:59
exercises. And in
29:01
2025, my might be going to happen is
29:03
a membership program. I'm not quite sure what
29:06
this looks like yet, but
29:08
it's a group experience to
29:10
build community, to network, to
29:13
practice skills, and to come together
29:15
as like-minded people. So as that
29:17
unfolds, I'll keep you posted. Oh,
29:19
that sounds exciting. Yeah, it's fun. So
29:24
we have a lot of fun things coming up. Let's
29:27
get back to the show. Perfect. All
29:30
right. So hawks, a
29:33
lot of people, and you brought up
29:35
hawks. I've seen hawks. Our dear friend
29:37
Rod, who passed recently, had an affinity
29:39
with hawks. Visionary power
29:41
and guardianship and their messengers,
29:43
protectors, visionaries. Hawks and
29:45
owls have the keenest eyes of all the
29:48
raptors. So as similar to the owls, when
29:50
you're researching a specific type of hawk, it can
29:53
give you more insights into the message. Is
29:55
it a red tail? Is it a sharp shin? There's
29:58
a lot of different varieties. But
30:01
they hawks can be nudging you to stay
30:03
alert and focused on what's going on in
30:05
your life. Again, that keen
30:07
eyesight, but to spend time studying and
30:09
observing a situation so you'll be ready
30:12
to take quick action when
30:14
opportunity presents. They
30:16
can also indicate the need to pay attention
30:18
to your surroundings, to be aware of personal
30:20
or psychic attacks. And they can
30:22
be about messages coming into your life. Wow.
30:29
So, there can be a message about
30:31
like psychic attacks coming to you or
30:33
thinking bad thoughts about you? I
30:35
think so. Do they bring protection? Because
30:37
I always think of the hawk as a protector.
30:40
Yes. I get a sense
30:42
of awe with the birds of prey.
30:45
Yeah, I do. Not
30:47
just because of their size, but there's an elegance
30:49
to the way that they glide, to the way
30:51
that they fly. Really
30:53
fun to watch them ride the
30:55
currents and stuff in the wind.
30:59
Oh, I agree. It's breathtaking. Okay,
31:02
and then hummingbird. I always get so excited
31:04
when I see a hummingbird. They
31:06
represent tireless joy and the nectar of
31:08
life. These amazing beauties
31:11
are often seen as a symbol for
31:13
accomplishing that which seems impossible. So, when
31:15
you see a hummingbird, it's about finding
31:17
joy in your life circumstances. It's
31:20
about openly expressing the love you feel and
31:22
have for important people in your life. I
31:25
think because the hummingbird does do
31:27
the impossible, it's about redefining any
31:30
limitations you might be putting around
31:33
yourself and seeing them as illusions.
31:37
Exactly. They
31:40
can go backwards and forwards and up
31:43
and down and they're like little tiny helicopters.
31:45
They are really, really cool. The
31:47
fact that they are so delicate
31:50
and so strong, I
31:52
think that's another aspect of it. But
31:54
it seems that hummingbirds come through for a
31:56
lot of people as a sign from someone
31:58
in spirit. Yeah,
32:01
yeah, I agree because they've done the
32:03
impossible. They've transcended to the other side.
32:06
And the fact that they migrate thousands
32:09
and thousands of miles on those little
32:11
tiny wings. It's amazing.
32:15
And they're pretty. The iridescent color in
32:17
their wings and the feathers. They
32:19
are beautiful. The chickadees
32:21
can be about cheerful and truthful
32:23
expression. And the black cap of
32:25
the chickadee reflects the uncovering the
32:27
mysteries of the mind. They can
32:29
be thinking, can be awakening, understanding
32:31
and higher truth. A chickadee can
32:33
help you express the truth in
32:35
a way that heals, bring balance
32:37
and opens perceptions. And
32:40
that's true of any kind of a masked animal
32:43
or bird. It usually has to do
32:45
with thinking, cognition,
32:47
perception. Wax wings
32:50
have that beautiful little eye thing
32:52
going on and different animals that
32:54
have that black cap. Or
32:56
think about the mask on
32:59
raccoons. There's bringing emphasis
33:02
to seeing things more clearly,
33:04
perceiving things of being open.
33:08
And they just sound so happy. They
33:10
do. And they always remind me of
33:12
sometimes, and this is rare, but you'll be walking
33:15
through the woods. And they'll kind
33:17
of flutter around you like a little snow
33:19
white thing. Yeah, that's true.
33:21
And groups too. Yes.
33:25
It's hard not to do a
33:27
little skip and say, oh, hello.
33:31
Okay, we've got to talk about butterflies because
33:33
I think that is such a common animal
33:35
sign that we all have seen. They
33:38
represent transformation and the dance
33:40
of joy. When butterflies
33:42
show up, pay attention to important
33:44
issues confronting you in your life.
33:47
They are about change,
33:50
transformation. And while
33:52
they may seem to dance as they
33:54
alight on flowers, they are a beautiful
33:56
reminder to not take things so seriously,
33:58
to get up. and move and dance
34:01
and bring joy through movement. Every
34:03
time I see a butterfly, I think about
34:06
the total trust that
34:09
they have just endured in
34:11
the surrendering process that birthed
34:13
them into being. I mean,
34:15
imagine being a caterpillar and you're just like
34:17
crawling through life and you got your little
34:19
caterpillar friends and all of a sudden
34:21
you're so hungry, you're ravenous and you don't know
34:23
why and maybe summer's coming up and you're like,
34:25
I gotta stop eating this much, but you can't
34:28
stop. And then suddenly you're
34:30
spinning this dark cocoon around you're spinning
34:32
this dark cocoon around yourself that's so
34:34
tight you can't even move for a
34:37
very, very long time. I
34:39
mean, we had talked about how everything
34:41
has consciousness on another show. What
34:43
is the caterpillar butterfly thinking in that
34:46
moment of darkness and entrapment? And
34:49
then they have to go through the painful
34:51
process of breaking out of
34:53
that cocoon. And it's a painful process.
34:55
It's pushing fluid through every area of
34:57
their body and their new wings. And
35:00
then they emerge as this completely new
35:02
thing. Right.
35:05
And they always say don't ever try to
35:07
help a butterfly get out of the cocoon
35:09
because then their wings won't be strong enough.
35:11
Yes. They have to fight through.
35:13
Yeah. They've gotta go through that difficult
35:15
time. There's a person
35:17
who listens to our show who is
35:19
very practical, highly, highly intelligent. And
35:22
every once in a while he'll send me videos
35:24
of the or messages about
35:26
the butterflies that show up in his life. And
35:29
it's kind of funny because it's almost
35:31
like they follow him around and they
35:33
show up in the damnedest places in
35:35
a traffic jam. There'll be a little
35:37
swirl of butterflies or, and
35:40
I think that that's, I think that spirit
35:42
has a good sense of humor sometimes. Oh,
35:46
for sure. Very often. I
35:48
get excited what I see a butterfly at the beach. I
35:53
don't know why, but it makes me very happy.
35:55
I don't see butterflies often at the beach, but
35:57
once in a while, especially back up by the
35:59
dunes. Well,
36:01
remember years ago, the Blue Butterfly story,
36:03
and I was hell bent on there
36:05
wasn't going to see a Blue Butterfly
36:07
in Maine. And then it was
36:09
showing up on books. It was showing up on
36:11
a design in a lab or to write slab.
36:13
It was showing up everywhere. And I still was
36:15
like, no, little kid with my hands over me
36:17
as la, la, la. I can't hear you. And
36:20
then someone sent me a meme that morning that I
36:22
had to make the decision and had 12 Blue
36:25
Butterflies ringed around it. And I thought, oh, son of
36:27
a bitch. That's the one I have to go with,
36:29
isn't it? Because they'll
36:31
just keep amping it up until you can't
36:34
ignore it. Once again, listeners,
36:36
can we have a moment of silence for Denise
36:38
and Zurek? No,
36:42
but I think it's good to be skeptical and
36:44
not just drink the Kool-Aid. I
36:46
do too. I'm just kidding. I do stuff
36:48
like that all the time. But
36:51
then it's like, that's what the butterfly reminds
36:53
me of though. It's like that you
36:55
got to do it on your own, but
36:57
you got to surrender. Like that caterpillar had
36:59
to weave her own damn cocoon and break
37:01
her own badass self out of it. But
37:04
yet she was compelled to do it
37:06
because it was nature's way. And it just reminds
37:08
me so much of how our life works. We
37:11
have to surrender to the process, but we have to do
37:13
the work. Right.
37:17
It's just a powerful message. And Dragonflies are
37:19
kind of similar, right? They
37:21
are. Dragonflies and damselflies, which
37:23
are a little bit different, but the
37:25
same, they're very similar and
37:28
I mean, they're old. They're like
37:30
180 million years old and that
37:32
power of light, they're so ancient.
37:35
And of course you start thinking about,
37:38
are they a smaller version of dragons
37:40
that actually were? Because
37:42
there's a lot of folklore
37:45
and mythology. People believe
37:47
in dragons even to this day. Is
37:49
there a connection and they got shrunk down or
37:52
was the world different and they were actually full
37:54
size? There's so much to think about, but
37:56
they can show up to let you know that
37:58
you might need some fresh air. in your life
38:01
in regards to something emotional. You
38:03
might need a new perspective or to make a
38:05
change. And sometimes they can be
38:07
letting you know that you're
38:09
being too rational and remember to see
38:12
through any illusions and let your own
38:14
light shine through. If
38:17
you've ever looked closely
38:19
at the delicateness of
38:21
a wing on a dragonfly, but
38:23
also the colors are, they're awe-inspiring.
38:25
The color, and I think that's
38:28
another message of dragonfly, is the
38:30
color of life. Oh,
38:33
for sure. I always like to
38:35
think of dragonflies bringing me a message
38:37
of balance as
38:39
well because they can live on water
38:42
and in air and on land. So
38:45
it's about learning to get
38:47
along and go along with a lot
38:49
of different situations and challenges in your
38:51
life. They're able to transcend a
38:54
lot of different places and times. So
38:56
for me sometimes when I see a
38:59
dragonfly, it's almost like a message that
39:01
I'm supposed to really work
39:03
on balance in my life. So
39:07
there was, you know how you'll have a flash of
39:09
a memory. And we used
39:11
to go to this lake when I was
39:13
a kid and there were reeds and stuff
39:15
and there were dragonflies. And there was this
39:17
mean kid. And I remember he
39:19
said, those are darning needles and they're going to sew
39:21
your mouth shut. And I
39:23
became very afraid of them, but
39:26
I never had heard them referred to
39:28
as darning needles before. Where
39:31
is that kid today, Folsom? What
39:36
a terrible thing to say. Well
39:39
there's a lot of, yeah, people
39:41
are noticed. I always see them as magical.
39:43
They remind me of like fireflies. And
39:46
I think it's interesting that
39:48
so many spiritually based businesses
39:51
or practices or there's a
39:53
lot of people love the
39:55
icon, the energy of a
39:57
dragonfly. Yeah,
40:01
I know. They're really, really cool. I
40:03
drew this, you know how I used
40:05
to draw on my kids' snack bags?
40:07
Yes. Well, after they're, surely
40:09
after their mother-in-law passed, or they're, sorry,
40:11
my mother-in-law, their grandmother passed away. I
40:14
think it was like her first or
40:16
second anniversary. I drew this picture on
40:18
Olivia's snack bag of like a cemetery
40:21
with a dragonfly over it. And all
40:23
these little caterpillar, no, I'm
40:25
sorry, it was a butterfly. So these little caterpillars
40:27
were hovered around this one grave
40:30
and they were all crying. And
40:32
then the grandmother butterfly was in the sky
40:34
saying, I'm still here, can't you see me?
40:37
I'm always with you. Oh, my
40:39
kids thought that was like
40:42
the most Wednesday Adam. It's
40:44
like, mom, try again. But
40:46
that's how I see the
40:49
way we exist with the other side.
40:51
Like we're still caterpillars, you
40:54
know, and our loved ones who
40:56
have physically lost their body, they're
40:58
butterflies. So they can't really,
41:01
we can't see them in the same way, but
41:04
they're there. So I just think there's something magical
41:06
every time I see a butterfly or a dragonfly.
41:08
I love it. It really does
41:10
feel like a reminder that we're part of it,
41:13
that they want to help us, we should
41:15
look out for them. It goes back to
41:18
the story from another episode about the little
41:20
boy who discovered a way to see the
41:22
pesticides on the fruit. What we're doing to
41:24
the environment is affecting all these animals. So
41:26
we have to be aware of that as
41:28
well. Maybe they're showing up for us more
41:31
to let us know that they need our help as much
41:33
as we need their help. Oh,
41:35
that's so true. Speaking of
41:37
let's talk about bees. Oh, the
41:40
bees. Bees, they
41:42
represent fertility and the honey
41:44
of life. And
41:46
they are longtime symbols of accomplishing
41:48
the impossible. Because is
41:51
it true? I've read that this is
41:53
true. And that it's a myth that
41:55
that scientifically their wings should not be
41:57
able to allow them to fly, but
41:59
because they don't know that they fly.
42:01
anyway. Right, especially bumblebees, the little chubby
42:03
guys. Yeah. Wow. So
42:06
it's a message to examine your
42:08
own productivity, to remember to extract
42:10
the honey of life and embrace
42:12
the opportunity to truly enjoy our
42:14
lives as we pursue our dreams
42:16
and purpose. They
42:20
have such an intricate community
42:23
and life, the bees, and
42:26
people are afraid of them and
42:28
they're this and that, but when
42:30
you watch them, they're really, you're
42:32
right, aerodynamically, they shouldn't be able
42:34
to fly
42:37
with such grace from flower to flower.
42:39
But if you've ever seen a fat little bee
42:41
with pollen all over their legs, it's like seeing
42:43
a little kid. They're just so damn cute. They
42:45
are. I always
42:48
feel like it's a message to remind
42:50
yourself to work for the greater good.
42:53
Yeah. Because the bee cures nothing for itself.
42:56
It's all about the hive. And
42:59
the queen and working for the greater good
43:01
of that, which I think is interesting. Yes.
43:06
Because I think that's what we're trying to,
43:08
many of us are trying to do right
43:10
now is how can we come together in
43:12
community and help each other out and look
43:14
out for each other. It goes back to
43:16
the kindness stories that we've talked about. It's
43:19
where the more we can
43:21
pay attention, I truly believe
43:23
the more spirit wants to help us. And that's in your
43:26
book on how to connect with all
43:28
the different spirit guides and angels
43:30
and ancestors that want to help
43:32
us. Yeah.
43:34
And to help us to recognize
43:37
really and truly who we are and what we're here
43:39
to do. And I think these
43:41
animals showing up in our lives can serve
43:44
as reminders of that. Or just little, like
43:46
if life is a marathon, they're like little,
43:49
the volunteers on the side of the road holding
43:51
up a bottle of water or a
43:53
sign that says keep going. Like every time I see
43:55
a cricket, I get happy because I know that means
43:57
good luck is coming to me. You
44:01
know, I think it's just nice to
44:03
be aware, like you were saying before,
44:05
of what nature is trying to tell
44:07
us. And just
44:09
as important, like you said, to think about how
44:11
we can give back to nature. Now,
44:14
if listeners wanted to do a
44:16
guided meditation to meet their power
44:19
animal, I'm sure they can find
44:21
one online, but are there some
44:23
tips you can offer? Do they
44:25
need to listen to a certain
44:27
hurt tonal music or
44:29
certain images they should focus
44:31
on? From
44:34
my own experience, learning
44:36
to journey, learning to go to
44:38
non-ordinary reality to find that animal,
44:41
you're right. There are a ton
44:43
of different ways to do this
44:45
online, on YouTube, on different things. So
44:47
finding something that resonates with you. It
44:50
can also be taking a course with someone
44:53
that you respect or that you trust. There
44:55
are books available, so we can put some
44:57
resources in the show notes as well. Okay,
45:01
fantastic. But I think it's worth it to
45:03
carve out some time to really
45:06
connect with your power animal because
45:09
they can offer so much tremendous
45:11
support and insight and really help
45:13
us trigger and trust our intuition.
45:16
Because what it feels like from just
45:18
our discussion today, when
45:20
you see these birds or these insects
45:22
or these animals in your life, you
45:25
have to pause and offer gratitude and
45:27
reflect on what it means for yourself
45:29
and your path, but you also have
45:31
to use your intuition to interpret the
45:33
message. Right, right.
45:37
And I mean, this we just touched on
45:39
the very edge. So as I
45:41
mentioned, there's a wonderful books that we'll put in the show
45:43
notes as well. But if
45:45
you have an animal that really touches your
45:47
heart or keeps showing up into your life
45:50
or that you have always
45:52
loved for, and some
45:54
people say, well, can my cat or my
45:56
dog be my power animal? I see them
45:59
more as some someone to walk with us
46:01
on the path in this lifetime. But
46:04
domesticated animals usually aren't power
46:07
animals from what I understand.
46:09
Yeah. They're just friends
46:12
and family members. I
46:15
mean, it's not a big deal to
46:18
do a guided meditation to meet your
46:20
power animal vote. What it does come
46:22
down to is being open
46:24
and trusting what comes through for you. Yes.
46:28
As with all of this work, right?
46:30
Yes, exactly. Well, and just taking the
46:32
time to foster that relationship. Right,
46:35
because then you can feel them
46:37
in your everyday life as well.
46:40
Exactly. Just as you will invite
46:42
in an ancestor or you'll invite
46:44
in an angel or you'll invite
46:46
in a guide, you're adding
46:48
someone else to your team, which
46:51
the essence. And I think, I don't know if we
46:53
mentioned this or not, but it's not the
46:55
individual animal that's coming to you.
46:58
It's the collective energy of that
47:00
animal. So if you're seeing
47:02
a hawk, it's not the individual hawk,
47:04
it's all the collective energy of that
47:07
species that's coming to you to
47:09
bring through the power, the
47:11
insight, the message. Very
47:14
good point. No, we did not mention that. And
47:16
I think that's really important to understand. Yeah. But.
47:21
Well, thank you guys so much for listening.
47:23
We hope you'll take some time this week
47:25
to just walk through nature, look out your
47:27
yard, take a stroll
47:29
through your park and really notice what the
47:32
world of nature is trying to convey
47:34
to you. Have a great week.
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