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Welcome to Epicenter, the show which talks

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about the technologies, projects, and people driving

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decentralization and the global blockchain revolution. I'm

2:51

Sebastian Kuczur and I'm here with my

2:53

co-host Felix Looch. Today we're

2:55

speaking with Janik Schade. He's the CEO

2:57

and co-founder of Arqium. It

3:00

is a private compute platform

3:02

that allows for all sorts

3:04

of interesting use cases, privacy,

3:06

uh, in crypto and

3:09

beyond. So we'll be chatting with

3:11

him today about Arqium, the architecture,

3:13

their use of MPC and much

3:15

more. Janik, thanks for joining us today.

3:19

Thanks for having me. I'm Sebastian on Felix.

3:21

I'm very excited. Yeah. So

3:24

tell us a little bit about your

3:26

background and how you got involved in

3:28

the encryption and privacy space and how

3:30

you ended up working on Arqium. Yeah,

3:34

sure. So, um,

3:36

I think, um, the

3:39

reason why, why, um, I'm in the

3:41

space of, of building Arqium,

3:43

building confidential computing, decentralized confidential

3:45

computing and

3:49

privacy technology at the end of

3:51

the day, it might be a little bit more boiled down to

3:53

me as a small child reading 1984. I

3:56

think that might be the honest answer.

3:58

I think that that really. element.

54:01

What we've seen is even logistic

54:05

firms, right? We

54:08

are talking with logistic firms that

54:10

want to improve supply chains regardless

54:13

of blockchain. They don't care about blockchain. All they care

54:16

about is not giving their sensitive

54:18

supply chain data to competitors, but at the

54:20

same time, they

54:22

can improve the supply chains.

54:24

They can all have the

54:26

sort of win-win situation by

54:30

using this trustless confidential

54:34

computing technology. I think

54:36

that's really the power

54:38

of decentralized confidential computing

54:40

to address traditional

54:42

markets as well. That's also

54:45

what drives us, that it's

54:48

not just building applications for

54:51

crypto's sake, but building applications for humanity's sake

54:53

at the end of the day, I think.

54:58

Considering the RKM network, I

55:03

think one of

55:05

the important things to consider here, and

55:07

I'd love to get your take on

55:09

this, is the censorship risk. For in

55:11

the case of an application

55:13

that would handle

55:16

the healthcare data of an entire nation,

55:19

if we had a small number of nodes, there would

55:22

be a risk of censorship. Therefore,

55:24

you'd probably want to have as

55:26

many nodes as possible in there.

55:28

Are there exit

55:32

mechanisms to prevent censorship?

55:37

Also, does the network

55:39

performance, is the performance

55:42

maintained as the number of nodes scale

55:44

or does that start

55:47

decreasing as you add more

55:49

nodes to the network? Yeah,

55:52

sure. We have multiple

55:55

mechanisms to combat censorship.

55:57

I think the first mechanism that

55:59

I outlined confidential

58:00

confidentiality thing on elusive, right? Like kind

58:03

of more application focused almost, or I

58:05

guess in general, the elusive product was

58:07

more application. Now you're

58:10

this platform and obviously if you're a

58:12

platform, you have to do like ecosystem

58:14

building or you're mentioning, you've been speaking

58:17

to a lot of like logistics

58:19

per like in health, like traditional businesses.

58:22

Um, and I think you also like mentioned,

58:24

like you yourselves met in the hacker house,

58:26

right? And in Solana, which I think quite

58:28

interesting and probably one of the best ecosystem

58:31

building examples in all of crypto

58:34

in the recent years, right? Seeing

58:36

like it brought also you together and

58:38

just generally how successful Solana has been,

58:40

uh, with that. So yeah, the question

58:42

basically is like, how are you approaching

58:45

this? How are you getting people to build on,

58:47

on the Arceom platform? Yeah.

58:49

So, um, we

58:51

currently have way

58:54

too many people trying to build an

58:56

Arceom. Um, that's, um, that's

58:58

the current status. So, um, a few

59:00

months back when we, when we announced

59:02

Arceom, we, we started accepting,

59:04

um, developer and node

59:07

operators signups, um, for,

59:09

for the private test net, um, which we

59:12

started rolling out. And currently

59:14

we are in the cohort one

59:16

phase. So the first group of,

59:18

of developers that, um,

59:20

get hands on support from us, um,

59:22

get access to, to all of the

59:24

tooling and, and can start building applications.

59:27

And step by step we are,

59:29

we are expanding those, those cohorts

59:31

and adding more teams. So folks

59:34

can join our discord, um,

59:36

can, can register to be able to

59:39

be accepted to those private test net

59:41

development rounds.

59:43

And then they get full access

59:45

to Arceom, um, and can build

59:48

their applications and get, um,

59:50

yeah, development support from, from our end.

59:54

That's second grads on the success there for

59:56

sure. Yeah. I hope we'll, we'll see like

59:58

a bunch of cool applications.