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That was a clip from this reality show

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that's on Peacock called The Traders. If you

4:10

haven't started watching The Traders, it's a fantastic

4:12

show where they get a bunch of people

4:14

from reality TV. A lot of our bra

4:16

celebrities are over there. We got Dolores. We

4:19

had Durinda. We had Durinda on there. And

4:21

we have Tom Sandable. Tom Sandoval. Of course,

4:23

Tom Zinsovol from the Vanderpump rules on Bravo.

4:25

And traders figured something out very early on

4:27

with Tom Sandoval that I think Vanderpump rolls

4:30

wasn't able to grasp, especially at the end

4:32

of their run. Because those last couple seasons,

4:34

I felt like they were trying to rehabilitate

4:36

Tom's image. instead of presenting him in like

4:39

an honest way. And so what we're seeing

4:41

on the traders is that Tom's being edited

4:43

like Elmer Fud versus on Van der Pompuels

4:45

at the end of the run there, he

4:47

was being edited like Bugs Bunny and he's

4:50

not the leading man of the show, he's

4:52

more leading man of the show, he's more

4:54

of the bumbling man of the show, he's

4:56

more of like the Bumbling Man, and he's

4:58

not the leading man of the show, he's

5:01

more of like the bumbling man of the

5:03

show, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's more of

5:05

like, he's more of like, he's more of

5:07

like, he's, he's, he's, he's more of like,

5:09

he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's,

5:12

he's, he's, he's, he's, he's more of like,

5:14

he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, It's fun

5:16

to laugh at him on traders. And on

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van or pump rolls, they were trying to

5:20

present him as the hero of the story.

5:23

And especially after Jack's left van or pump

5:25

rolls, it was like they made him the

5:27

number one guy in the group, they made

5:29

him the leading man of the show, and

5:32

maybe he wasn't meant to be the leading

5:34

man of the show. He was meant to

5:36

be the elmer fud that we can all

5:38

look and laugh at as the bumblinging idiot.

5:40

So that's what Traders has got figured out.

5:43

I'm enjoying it. There's lots going on on

5:45

TV right now. Of course, the Real House

5:47

of Salt Lake City did wrap up and

5:49

I missed them. I've been singing, what's that,

5:51

Sarah McLaughlin song? I will remember you. I

5:54

will remember them. I will remember them. I

5:56

will remember them. I will remember them. I

5:58

will remember them. I will remember them. I'm

6:00

sad that they're no longer with us, but

6:02

we do have Summer House back, Southern Hospitalities.

6:05

They should probably pay me for that. But

6:07

probably ain't paying me for that. And so

6:09

I'm not on this microphone telling you to

6:11

watch just for my health. I'm here telling

6:13

you to watch because it's a good fucking

6:16

show. And I wouldn't say that if it

6:18

was a bad fucking show. Do you get

6:20

what I mean? But they in Vegas now

6:22

and Emmy, as Emmy and Will, you guys,

6:24

their relationship, like what's going on there? It's

6:27

just waiting to explode. And they are young

6:29

people. If you're not on board of southern

6:31

hospitality yet, you just didn't know going into

6:33

it that it's very vander pump rules ask.

6:36

Don't even watch that first season. Just skip

6:38

that. Just skip, but don't tell anyone I

6:40

told you that, but skip the first season.

6:42

Maybe even skip the second season, jump right

6:44

into season three, I'd say. But know that

6:47

it's like the underpumples, they're young dumb people,

6:49

and that's what's fun about watching it. And

6:51

that's one of the things that I have

6:53

as a critique of summer house right now

6:55

that I want to get into. And then

6:58

after that we'll get into the Beverly Hills

7:00

Housewives do an official full recap of Beverly

7:02

Hills Housewives. But for now on summer house,

7:04

I have to say that Bravo's asking me

7:06

to spend a lot of disbelief. But for

7:09

now on summer house, I have to say

7:11

that Bravo's asking me to suspend a lot

7:13

of disbelief. And I'm not trying to age,

7:15

or whatever. But the truth is, a 40-something

7:17

married man, married couple, in that same summer

7:20

timeshare house as a 26-year-old gal. I mean,

7:22

how old's that new gal, Lexi? They think

7:24

they said 26, and then she's got the

7:26

friend there. They're in their mid-20s. And it's

7:29

like, so bizarre. And then we have a

7:31

pregnant woman in there. And it's like, I

7:33

don't even feel comfortable, Lindsay, Lindsay, in that

7:35

toxic house. Get her out of there. And

7:37

so I do not. And also I just

7:40

think it's weird, like we're asking the audience

7:42

to spend so much disbelief to believe that

7:44

this group of people would be vacationing together.

7:46

And I know, bravo, you have to, right?

7:48

All these shows, you have to sort of

7:51

assume that it's set up, it's a show,

7:53

you kind of got to get rid of

7:55

all that in your head that says this

7:57

doesn't make sense, but I still think that

7:59

there has to be some tether to reality

8:02

to reality with the shows. as the audience,

8:04

we could pretend that certain people are friends

8:06

when they're not, we could pretend we can

8:08

go pretty far with you. But I just

8:10

think they're a step too far this season

8:13

on Summer House and that's my truth because...

8:15

It doesn't make sense why this group of

8:17

people would be vacationing together. I don't even

8:19

think Page and Sierra would even want a

8:22

vacation anymore. I think that Page has done

8:24

it enough times. She probably don't want to

8:26

go vacation in the summer house again. But

8:28

it's her job and she's got to do

8:30

it. Anyway, so all these people in this

8:33

house together, I'm like, what the fuck is

8:35

this group? It's these young girls would want

8:37

to be in a house with Kyle and

8:39

a married woman and a pregnant lady. I

8:41

don't want to be staying in the house

8:44

with the married couple and the pregnant woman.

8:46

And again, nothing against pregnant women because I

8:48

want pregnant ladies to have fun as much

8:50

as the rest of us. But I certainly

8:52

don't want to be sitting in a house

8:55

with Kyle stumbling drunk at 2am or West

8:57

and Jesse bringing home who knows who in

8:59

the middle of the night. I mean, it's

9:01

like craziness. And Sierra is being tough on

9:03

West, which I'm excited about. because she let

9:05

him sign with way too much. And West

9:07

had a really good season last year. It

9:10

was his freshman year, and he was sort

9:12

of the darling of the show. By the

9:14

end of the season, of course, everyone started

9:16

turning on him. But overall, I'd say West

9:18

had a pretty good season, and that's why

9:20

he was able to get things like New

9:22

York Times. And he was getting bigger press

9:24

outlets at the time, which you can really

9:26

analyze, I mean, because... Publicists just can't get

9:28

anyone interviews in New York Times, right? Like

9:30

there has to be some sort of popularity

9:33

or something going on in the zeitgeist where

9:35

the major outlet is going to want to

9:37

think that people will want to read from

9:39

West. So anyway, it was interesting that it

9:41

was his first year and he was getting

9:43

these bigger outlets and stuff. And then he's

9:45

going and talking about Sierra who's this stunningly

9:47

beautiful gale. But anyway, she got the short

9:49

end of the stick and so she's coming

9:51

in hot this year. What else do we

9:53

have going on? The ultrasound photo that is

9:56

going to be in the house all summer.

10:00

You guys, I'm going to be at

10:02

the BSP mood, by the way. Because

10:04

did you see the Backstreet Boys announced

10:06

they're going to be doing a residency

10:09

at the sphere in Las Vegas? I

10:11

want to go. I like the back,

10:13

I mean, and Sink is my number

10:15

one. So of course, JC, my turtle-like

10:17

prince is my number one. But I

10:19

love Backstreet Boys, and so I'm excited

10:21

they're going to be at the sphere.

10:23

I don't know if I'm going to

10:25

get to go. And I heard that.

10:27

What do you need him more? That

10:29

voice of AJ. I'm wet. Okay, moving

10:31

on. Page, we talked about her and

10:33

Craig. Did we talk about her and

10:35

Craig? I don't know. I'm still on

10:37

page aside. And now Craig's going on.

10:39

He's going on. He's going on. He's

10:41

going on. He's going to be on

10:43

Tamara Hall this week. Tamron Hall. And

10:45

I saw him in a clip saying

10:47

that that it wasn't true that he

10:49

was texting other women, but we saw

10:51

at the at the end of Summer

10:53

House. Who's the who they're both telling

10:55

a story? Who am I going to

10:57

believe now? I could believe page I

10:59

could believe Craig I could believe page

11:01

who I don't know to lie to

11:03

me that often on the show or

11:05

I could believe Craig who I know

11:07

has a very long and detailed history

11:09

of lying and admitting to being a

11:12

very good liar on camera. You know

11:14

he said that on camera. And he's

11:16

been caught in many lies. And it's

11:18

been accused that everyone he knows and

11:20

comes in contact with on the show

11:22

seems to as well. So I guess

11:24

I could choose one or the other.

11:26

Okay, moving on. Augusta and Beverly Hills.

11:28

Should we get into the the reva

11:30

of it all? You guys, okay, the

11:32

real house is Beverly Hills. Let's dive

11:34

right in. This was an episode. People

11:36

were comparing it to August, Osage County,

11:38

that Merrill Street, Julie, Julie Roberts film,

11:40

where they. go to have this dinner

11:42

and it's like everybody's arguing it's just

11:44

a lot of tension in the house

11:46

and it's a family and it's tension

11:48

and I could see that and I

11:50

sometimes like you know on the housewives

11:52

you hear me on this microphone podcast

11:54

or podcast microphone You hear me all

11:56

the time say, I like when things

11:58

get a little dark and gritty, within

12:00

reason. But I also say that I

12:02

can change my mind at the drop

12:04

of the hat. And the truth is

12:06

this week on the Real House is

12:08

Beverly Hills. I found it to be

12:10

too bleak, too dark. I didn't like

12:12

watching it. It was too depressing. I'm

12:14

sorry. I thought it was like a

12:17

little, I don't know, I didn't love

12:19

it. I mean, it was interesting. Here's

12:21

what I will say, getting to know,

12:23

getting to know Sutton, getting to know

12:25

Sutton, I think is going to know

12:27

Sutton, I think is gonna be. Very

12:29

important for us moving forward. I think

12:31

it gives us so much insight into

12:33

who this person is sudden, why she

12:35

is the way that she is, where

12:37

she comes from, and I love getting

12:39

to know her and all those things.

12:41

There were just a few moments that

12:43

to me kind of pushed it over

12:45

the edge into like too bleak territory,

12:47

like when they were going to visit

12:49

the house. I didn't like that. And

12:51

I admit I could be a little

12:53

sensitive when it comes to mental health

12:55

issues and suicide. I can be a

12:57

little extra, a little extra sensitive about

12:59

at all. That's a me issue. It's

13:01

my problem, in the words of Jerinda

13:03

Medley's tagline, it's my problem. It's your

13:05

problem. And so it is my problem,

13:07

but it makes me a little, it's

13:09

a little too bleak for me. And

13:11

so when they were saying we're going

13:13

to the house and then sentence, like,

13:15

I had a friend who, it called

13:17

ahead and said, they called ahead and

13:20

said, they said we could come in

13:22

the house. In my head I was

13:24

thinking, actually, I bet reaction. I don't

13:26

know that for certain, but the way

13:28

Sutton was like, oh yeah, my friend

13:30

set up me going to the childhood

13:32

home or the home I lived at

13:34

the family or last saw my father

13:36

in, she was saying, my friend set

13:38

it up. And I'm like, that's code

13:40

for producers because otherwise they would say

13:42

the actual name. Now it's possible they

13:44

were hiding the anonymity, anonymity, anonymity, anonymity,

13:46

anonymity, anonymity. I'm such a dummy. Such

13:48

a dummy sometimes. Anyway, they could have

13:50

been trying to protect the... But I

13:52

don't believe that. I mean, that's not

13:54

something I believe. I think it was

13:56

production. It was like, oh, yeah, let's

13:58

go film there, which is so bleak

14:00

to me. It's just, I don't know

14:02

of another word. I know I keep

14:04

saying bleak, but I'm like, why are

14:06

we filming there? And I guess something

14:08

was saying to give closure and I

14:10

guess something was saying to give closure

14:12

and to confront these things and it

14:14

just didn't feel like it was too

14:16

depressing. It went a couple steps too

14:18

far. I loved all the Reba-ness of

14:20

it. I loved being in Reba's house

14:23

with her. She's got the boyfriend and

14:25

the Jiggalo, we call it. And so

14:27

I loved all that stuff and I

14:29

found that really compelling. And even though

14:31

it was dark, I was really fascinated

14:33

by getting to know Reba and all

14:35

that stuff. But when we went to

14:37

that other house, I just felt like

14:39

this was a bridge too far and

14:41

it didn't even feel natural to me

14:43

like somebody would be doing it. to

14:45

get some closure or something, but maybe

14:47

I misread it, and maybe it was

14:49

truthful and real, and if so, God

14:51

bless us. And if she, I hope

14:53

she did get some closure, and it

14:55

seems like she did, and she even

14:57

seemed to get a lot of closure

14:59

with Reba, which I was so happy

15:01

about, because we got to know Reba

15:03

last week. She seemed like a complete

15:05

monster. And then not only that, this

15:07

week, we find out, guess what, she's

15:09

a therapist. Let's just breathe that in.

15:11

Breathe that in. Because it's a lot

15:13

to breathe in. When I heard that,

15:15

I mean, did everyone else mouth go

15:17

agape? When you heard all of a

15:19

sudden, she's a therapist. I'm like, a

15:21

therapist for what? For humans? I hope

15:23

she's not therepizing humans. I hope she's

15:25

sitting in front of a plant talking

15:28

or something. Or some sort of dog

15:30

or creature or something. I don't know.

15:32

Ant Farm, I don't give a fuck,

15:34

but I don't give a fuck. But

15:36

I don't know that she should be.

15:38

But I don't know that she should

15:40

be there. She should be there. I'm

15:42

not sure that that's the case, but

15:44

God bless if she's doing a good

15:46

job. I mean, she's retiring, so I

15:48

guess she's not doing it anymore, but

15:50

woo! I'm not sure I need advice

15:52

from that woman. I'm not sure that

15:54

she's the type of person that I

15:56

need to call up when I'm going

15:58

through something. Because like I said last

16:00

week in the show, she would make

16:02

me cry in 30 seconds flat, I

16:04

think. I was actually trying to time,

16:06

like how long I think I could

16:08

spend with Reba in a room before

16:10

she would make me full on cry,

16:12

like ugly cry. And the truth is,

16:14

I don't think it would go 30

16:16

seconds without crying. And the truth is,

16:18

I don't think it would go 30

16:20

seconds without crying in front of Reba.

16:22

And for her to be a therapist,

16:24

I mean, but I don't like... I

16:26

don't like her being in charge of

16:28

telling people what to do, but it

16:31

is happening. It's happening. So that's what's

16:33

going on. But there was a lot

16:35

of time in Augusta too. It felt

16:37

like it was a whole episode in

16:39

Augusta. And again, I see why don't

16:41

we bring all the cast members here?

16:43

Although it's nice, I guess, being able

16:45

to check in with Erica during her

16:47

remodel. I mean, that's all we're doing

16:49

is the remodel with Erica. And I'm

16:51

happy that she's remodel in that she's

16:53

remodel in that West Hollywood place. We

16:55

also have Kyle, I've still been just

16:57

watching Kyle with Reba because I'm really

16:59

fascinated by that dynamic. And I did

17:01

get mad on behalf of Kyle. And

17:03

you know I'm tough on Splits Richards.

17:05

I'm very tough on her, sometimes too

17:07

tough, I would say. But I'm gonna

17:09

side with her in this scene here

17:11

where she was at the brunch table.

17:13

And they were serving grits, I think.

17:15

They pointed out to Kyle that she

17:17

wasn't eating her grits. And I know

17:19

what they were doing. And I think

17:21

it was Garcell or Sutton. One of

17:23

them pointed out on the brunch table

17:25

that Kyle wasn't eating a portion of

17:27

her food. And let me tell you

17:29

something. There's nothing more fucking annoying than

17:31

when you're sitting down and then your

17:34

friend is going to announce to the

17:36

whole fucking table that you're not eating

17:38

an item on your plate. What if

17:40

you're allergic? What if you don't want

17:42

that right now? What if you're full?

17:44

There are a myriad of reasons that

17:46

you do need to point out. And

17:48

yes, I understand they wanted her to

17:50

try it, but it was like maybe

17:52

she did try it. She just wanted

17:54

it or something and she wanted it

17:56

to be polite. And so I'm citing

17:58

with Kyle because She didn't make a

18:00

big fuss of it. If she would

18:02

have said, oh, I don't like that,

18:04

or she made a face, or a

18:06

stink, or something, I would understand calling

18:08

her out vocally about it. But the

18:10

truth is she sat there quiet, and

18:12

then a bunch of them were like,

18:14

you're not eating that. And I was

18:16

like, oh my God, that's my biggest

18:18

nightmare, especially as someone with food issues.

18:20

Body image, food issues, I'd be fucked.

18:22

And so I don't like that they

18:24

were calling around for that. And so

18:26

I'm on team Kyle for that one.

18:28

But this is where Sutton at the

18:30

brunch table, where she brings up, she's

18:32

like, I want to take everyone, I

18:34

want to take my girlfriends to the

18:37

childhood home where her dad passed. And

18:39

I was like, what are we doing

18:41

that for? And Reba's like, I'm not

18:43

doing that. Reba, who I was like,

18:45

I'm not doing that. Reba, that was

18:47

the nightmare this whole time. I was

18:49

like, Reba, that was the nightmare this

18:51

whole time. I was all happening. So

18:53

anyway, she sudden says when the dad

18:55

shot himself, mom was home and in

18:57

the kitchen and she knew that he

18:59

was self-medicating and she knew that there

19:01

was a loaded gun in the house

19:03

and so Sutton says there was resentment

19:05

and that was tough. That was tough.

19:07

That was tough. To hear and they

19:09

are scoring this to hear and and

19:11

they are scoring this episode differently even

19:13

as well like the musical cues in

19:15

this episode are a little bit heavier.

19:17

There was one point where it sounded

19:19

like the score from the social network,

19:21

do you know what I mean? How

19:23

did they get Trent Resner to a

19:25

soundtrack scene with the Reba, Sutton's mom

19:27

on the Real Hospital of Hills? I

19:29

was noticing that on Southern Hospitality too

19:31

when they were in Vegas. I don't

19:33

know if it was a flashback or

19:35

something when they were at the car

19:37

scene and they were playing like car

19:39

music, like fast car music. I think

19:42

they were doing one of those like

19:44

NASCAR things, you know, I think they

19:46

did that on Salt Lake City House

19:48

size too when they go to Vegas

19:50

and then they do that the driving

19:52

around a Ferrari in Vegas. I don't

19:54

even know if I'm saying these words

19:56

correctly, but you know what I'm talking

19:58

about when they do the race card

20:00

thing in Vegas. And I've never been

20:02

interested in that. I'm not a car

20:04

person. Even as a kid, I preferred

20:06

more like the the monorail or the

20:08

antique cars. Remember the antique cars? I

20:10

used to have a place called Jogelake.

20:12

You'd go and they'd have antique cars

20:14

and not go carts. I'm talking, they

20:16

called them antique cars, but they were

20:18

just on a track and they moved

20:20

like one mile per hour. Like literally

20:22

could walk faster. You could crawl faster

20:24

than these antique cars. And as a

20:26

kid I was like, I'm not. My

20:28

brothers just wanted to ride fast. I'm

20:30

like, no, put me on the monorail.

20:32

I want to go slow. And so

20:34

when they do that, I'm not interested.

20:36

But anyway, I'm Beverly Hill's house, they're

20:38

playing the social network score for Reba.

20:40

And Erica, she does, oh, speaking of

20:42

nice cars, we see that Erica, she

20:45

got a Porsche. That's right, she got

20:47

a Porsche. Did I see that correctly?

20:49

I was a little confused. Was it

20:51

a flashback? Was it a flashback? A

20:53

previous season when she was wealthy and

20:55

the old man she was with was

20:57

been bustling people and she had more

20:59

money in the bank account? Or is

21:01

this something she saved up for while

21:03

she was doing the remodel of her

21:05

Wejo place? I don't know. I don't

21:07

know what the truth is. I probably

21:09

should have just paid more attention to

21:11

what the truth is, to be honest

21:13

and then I would have just paid

21:15

more attention to be honest and then

21:17

I would know what the truth is,

21:19

but I've been staying away from all

21:21

the news and trying to... really protect

21:23

my peace and stuff this year. So

21:25

I've been trying to stay off social

21:27

media off the news, but you got

21:29

to fill your time with something. So

21:31

then I'm on all the websites shopping

21:33

every second and I'm just getting waking

21:35

up and things are coming to the

21:37

door and it's exciting. But it's also

21:39

like, okay, I don't need three boxes

21:41

at the door every fucking day. But

21:43

it's also like, okay, I don't need

21:45

three boxes at the door every fucking.

21:48

And so yeah, I'm on the Pottery

21:50

Barn website for four hours at night.

21:52

Yes! So Sue me! Anyway, Pottery Barn

21:54

kids have been on that site. Okay,

21:56

where are we at here? The show...

21:58

So this was sort of a weird,

22:00

a weird week because it was so

22:02

depressing. It's hard to recap actually. One

22:04

thing about me is they don't love

22:06

to recap a depressing episode because it's

22:08

like, it's depressing. Should we talk about,

22:10

okay, we talked about Erica's Porsche, she's

22:12

getting excited about her life again, Bamboozle

22:14

Jane. They're sort of presenting Erica Jane,

22:16

lovingly referred to as Bamboozle Jane as

22:18

her storyline being done. Are you feeling

22:20

that way? It's like they're wrapping everything

22:22

up. So for four or five years

22:24

now, I don't know how many seasons

22:26

it's been that we've been dealing with

22:28

the fallout of Eric Jane and her

22:30

husband Tom Girardi and it's been in

22:32

national news and this feels like the

22:34

obvious sort of button on that whole

22:36

era of the Real House List of

22:38

Beverly Hills because now we're just watching

22:40

a remodel and she seems fine. She

22:42

seems like she's doing okay. And it's

22:44

sort of the vibes of someone who's

22:46

announced they're leaving a sitcom, and yet

22:48

they spend a whole season, like their

22:50

whole last season doing a tribute to

22:53

them. That's how Erica's role feels this

22:55

season to me on the rail. It's

22:57

Beverly Hills, like Michael Scott on the

22:59

office, when they announced that Steve Carell

23:01

was leaving the office. Then the whole

23:03

season before Michael Scott was getting like

23:05

a send-off. And I feel like that's

23:07

what Erica's getting, where it's just like,

23:09

like, wrapping up her story, She's not

23:11

getting in the mix with anybody. She's

23:13

just coming on being easy breezy and

23:15

it feels like they're doing a little,

23:17

wrapping it up. Wrapping it up. Now

23:19

we have Bo's and her daughter and

23:21

it's nice. Keely and they're talking about

23:23

Keely, the boyfriend and her maybe having

23:25

another kid. Meanwhile in Augusta, this is

23:27

when the gals go to that house

23:29

and a sentence says, my good friend

23:31

who knows the current owners arranged it.

23:33

And Garsell says, oh, okay. And what

23:35

Garsell was saying, like, oh, okay, producers

23:37

did this, like, like, loud and clear,

23:39

gotcha, Sutton, producers did this. Hear ya,

23:41

hear ya. Okay, let's take a break

23:43

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B. And

28:00

we're back. Girl? Okay, the real house is

28:03

probably held. So Sutton does go to the

28:05

house with Marcel and Kyle and... It is

28:07

very tough and I maybe am being too

28:10

sensitive about it because there was a lot

28:12

that she got out that I thought was

28:14

very powerful she says she wishes she sat

28:16

down with her dad for just a few

28:19

minutes before she left when she saw him

28:21

for the last time she says just five

28:23

minutes and she says just five minutes because

28:26

it is true like when you lose

28:28

someone you just think out if I could

28:30

just have a couple more minutes with them

28:32

or or you think back on those times

28:34

like why didn't I stay and I didn't

28:37

I stay and sit down and you know

28:39

I always talk about my grandma and She

28:41

would her and I were really close and

28:44

I had moved away when she had gotten

28:46

sick I just moved away right before she

28:48

got sick And so I didn't have the

28:51

money to kind of go back and forth

28:53

when she was in the hospital And I

28:55

think back we had sort of an open

28:57

date. We used to joke that We

28:59

would go on a date when I was

29:02

home. And so she would take me on

29:04

these lunch dates ever since I was a

29:06

little kid where she would have this envelope

29:09

and it would be filled with coupons. So

29:11

she would collect coupons from the Sunday paper

29:13

and they would have coupons for like Arby's

29:15

or Panera or just little fast food coupons

29:18

that she would find in the paper and

29:20

she would always collect the ones for the

29:22

restaurants or the fast food places that I

29:25

liked and put them in this lunch dates.

29:27

And so we'd have like our lunch

29:29

dates. go on these lunch dates and she

29:31

would give me the envelope, she'd pick me

29:33

up or even towards the end I would

29:36

pick her up and she'd have her envelope

29:38

and say look through it and then pick

29:40

the place you want to go and it

29:43

was always really cheap so it would always

29:45

be like McDonald's or something she had a

29:47

little gift card or coupon for. And then

29:49

we'd go and have our date and she

29:52

had written in our last car in my

29:54

last card from her I can't wait for

29:56

her next date and she was already sick

29:59

at the time. kind of put it

30:01

off because I thought I'll wait and I

30:03

thought she'd be fine and then she wasn't

30:05

and you'd look back anything why didn't I

30:08

have just why why didn't I do that

30:10

why didn't I but you know you can't

30:12

control and and I think people who love

30:14

you know when you love them and all

30:17

of those sorts of things. So, I don't

30:19

know, I wasn't expecting to get emotional on

30:21

the podcast this week, I don't know what's

30:24

happening to me. Anyway, but I feel bad

30:26

for, I feel bad for Sutton and Sutton

30:28

says he was a good cook. She talks

30:30

about scrambled eggs and Mayo on white

30:32

bread and I know it sounded good to

30:35

me and she talks about him and the

30:37

memory of him and I imagine it must

30:39

be so hard for her to spend any

30:42

time with her dad was there when her

30:44

dad was... at the end of his life.

30:46

And I know, it's sad. It's sad. Then

30:48

we have Dreatt Bowes and Bamboozle at dinner

30:51

and drinks. And Bowes says that Kathy had

30:53

immaculate table settings for that lemon lunch that

30:55

we did last week. And I really think

30:58

that having immaculate table settings, that's my biggest

31:00

dream. That's my biggest dream for somebody to

31:02

say about me. Like the fact that

31:04

they were, this was like the next day,

31:07

Dreat Bowes and Erica Janea Janea at dinner,

31:09

a previous lunch with Kathy and how impeccable

31:11

her dinner wear was. And like that's my

31:13

biggest dream. Like I want people to like

31:16

years after they come to a dinner party

31:18

of mine be like, oh my God, I

31:20

loved his place settings. You know? And like

31:23

I'm not there yet. I'm not at all

31:25

there yet. But one day I want to

31:27

be there. Like that's my biggest goal in

31:29

life is to just really work on tablescaping.

31:32

I did love Erica Jane's new confessional look

31:34

with the, it was those red gloves

31:36

and the black top. You know Goldie Hawn

31:38

in the movie Overboard? I think Erica Jane

31:41

in the new confessional with those red gloves

31:43

and the black top, it sort of looked

31:45

like Goldie Hawn from Overboards Walloichi. Do you

31:47

know what I mean? Like that was, that

31:50

was the vibe it was like Goldie Hawn's,

31:52

her warrio. Like that was who I was

31:54

spiritually picking up. But she sits down with

31:57

Dereet and bows and this is when Dereet

31:59

is like, guys, I spoke to PK. She

32:01

said, I picked up the phone and we

32:03

are friends and I'm not doing a good

32:06

Dereet impression, but she says he's the

32:08

father of the children, the man that she

32:10

believed. no longer existed, and she's kind of

32:12

making excuses for him. And they're all saying,

32:15

like, no, this is a trick, like, he's

32:17

just trying to fuck you over. And Erica

32:19

Jane's like, no, you need a blah, you

32:22

need a file, you're going to fuck you

32:24

over. You know, she's trying to tell him

32:26

the business. And she's not taking the business.

32:28

Erica says, PK is ruthless in the business

32:31

of divorce. Tell me why, he's going to

32:33

do that. It's because he's a demon. He's

32:35

a demon. And we need to be careful

32:38

to read, you need to keep your

32:40

eyes and ears peeled for that man. And

32:42

so she needs to go to the courthouse

32:44

and file. I don't know what you need

32:46

to do to file, but she needs to

32:49

get on over there and file. Get on

32:51

over that filing cabinet and you do whatever

32:53

you need to file from divorce that man,

32:56

because he's going to fuck you over. And

32:58

now that I'm learning a little bit about,

33:00

we saw Durete say that he's not a

33:02

good father, she's been sort of covering for

33:05

him, I feel like she's also been covering

33:07

for him in business, and she's gonna be

33:09

fucked, because it's gonna be the same

33:11

situation that happened with Bamboozle Jane over there.

33:14

But I'm worried that it happened with Bamboozle

33:16

Jane over there. But I'm worried that it

33:18

happened with Bamboozle Jane over there. But I'm

33:21

worried that's what she's what she's saying. I

33:23

hope she's being smart and Erica says to

33:25

him he's calming down to run the bases

33:27

on you, which is such a funny sentence.

33:30

She says he's calming down to run the

33:32

bases on you. What she means is like

33:34

he's trying to get to read to be

33:37

really calm so that he could fuck her

33:39

over, you know, so that he could file

33:41

and then she'll be fucked. And then

33:43

what's she gonna do? I worry. I worry.

33:45

Okay, then we have Kathy doing her contracted

33:48

face-time with Kyle. And she doesn't even bother

33:50

to point out her face. So she's doing

33:52

a face-time call, which I believe was probably

33:55

part of her contract, even though it was

33:57

with her sister. And she's like, I'm not

33:59

going to be on camera. So she's like

34:01

pointing at somewhere else. And Kyle's like, I

34:04

can't even see you, Kathy. And so she

34:06

has to point around. Kathy, she's just, she's

34:08

not interested, but she'll do it. She'll do

34:11

it for the show. She'll do it for

34:13

the show. You know, Mo, she says,

34:15

Kathy says to Kyle, or Kyle says to

34:17

Kathy that Mo's going to Switzerland for a

34:19

meditation retreat, then meeting Pique for party time.

34:22

I'm sorry. What was that, gentlemen? You're going

34:24

to meditation retreat. And then you're going to

34:26

party it up Pique. And what do you

34:29

go in all these places for? Can't you

34:31

just do all these things in one place?

34:33

I mean, do we really need to be

34:36

happen all over the world? Especially, are there

34:38

money troubles with PK? Like, I would see,

34:40

I guess Mo could be floating the money

34:42

or something, but I don't trust those two

34:45

men out in a bar or something,

34:47

I would say, you go the other way.

34:49

You see the ladies, single ladies, I'm sorry,

34:51

I know Mo's an attractive man. I know

34:54

that if you just sort of look at

34:56

looks, you could be dignititized. I don't trust

34:58

him. I just don't trust him. And I

35:00

guess Mo has he done anything like really

35:03

bad? Maybe not, but I just don't get

35:05

a good feeling. I just don't get a

35:07

good feeling about him. And I never have.

35:10

I think if you were to go back

35:12

on this podcast, you maybe would hear some

35:14

things. You'd also probably hear me saying like,

35:16

I love Mo. I'd

35:19

be too scared to go through the

35:21

archives of this podcast because there's so

35:23

many episodes like from 10 years ago

35:25

or I don't even think I've been

35:27

doing the podcast that long but if

35:29

you go back five years you probably

35:31

hear me on the microphone being like

35:33

I love Tom Sandoval and then like

35:35

Tom Sandoval is nice and then it's

35:37

like oh okay well things change things

35:39

change um okay so then Sutton I

35:41

don't like the way Sutton's terrorizing the

35:43

assistant avi with her crab cake cake

35:46

recipe. It's like the trips are already

35:48

depressing enough and then every time she

35:50

was talking about the assistant I was

35:52

feeling bad for him and also he

35:54

was doing too much too they were

35:56

all doing too much but it was

35:58

like I sort of him the way

36:00

he was talking to Reba I think

36:02

he was trying to gasite Reba a

36:04

little bit like every time would say

36:06

something and he'd like kind of give

36:08

a look like she said something mean

36:10

and some of the time she did

36:13

say something mean but some of the

36:15

time I was like obvious just sort

36:17

of making a face to make it

36:19

seem like she's being mean and I

36:21

think that he's gas light in us

36:23

I don't know if I'm using that

36:25

term right but I think it might

36:27

be and so I just keep us

36:29

some eyes and ears on that because

36:31

I'm not trusting terrorizing him back with

36:33

the crabcake recipe being like we need

36:35

iceberg lettuce and not that lettuce and

36:37

I mean, does he deserve hazard pay

36:39

for all of this? Yes, of course,

36:42

of course. And Sutton also reveals to

36:44

us this week, she's doing a line

36:46

of green clothes. Which sounds like a

36:48

good thing. But I don't know if

36:50

I really understand it. I guess it's

36:52

a capsule collection. So is it, is

36:54

she just collecting all the clothes? Am

36:56

I confused? Maybe I just didn't pay

36:58

enough attention to this scene. So don't

37:00

write me, don't DM me, but it

37:02

seems to me. Like, did she just

37:04

go to a yard sale and, like,

37:06

pick out some stuff? Like, she went

37:09

to Genelian's sale and then picked out

37:11

a few items and she's calling it

37:13

a green capsule collection? Is that what

37:15

I'm hearing correctly? Or maybe it's something

37:17

else. Or is the, are the clothes

37:19

made green with materials or something? I

37:21

don't know, maybe I just, I misunderstood

37:23

that, but I did see her when

37:25

she was presenting these clothes to Reba.

37:27

I did think that Sutton was expecting

37:29

a little notch, and this is going

37:31

to get me in get me in

37:33

trouble. But I saw Reba examining Sutton's

37:36

clothes and Reba says it would look

37:38

awful on me. And you could see

37:40

that Sutton got upset by that. She

37:42

wanted her mom to say like, oh,

37:44

this is so exciting, great, whatever. And

37:46

Sutton says to her mom after her

37:48

mom says it would look awful on

37:50

me. Sutton says, well, it's very complicated

37:52

and it's very intense work because every

37:54

single piece has a code that is

37:56

to go to London because that's where

37:58

they're based. And it's super fast and

38:00

it all ships out from Houston. It's

38:02

not easy. Okay, so let me just

38:05

go backwards and I want to say

38:07

that sentence again because I did make

38:09

sure that I wrote this down word

38:11

for word. So this is the description

38:13

that the Bravo producers gave us of

38:15

Sutton's green clothing line in hopes that

38:17

it would I guess clear things up.

38:19

both with the business and how it

38:21

relates to Sutton's relationship with her mother.

38:23

So let me say this again. This

38:25

is how Sutton describes this business that

38:27

she's presenting to her mother. It's very

38:29

complicated and it's very intense work because

38:32

every single piece has a code that

38:34

has to go to London because that's

38:36

where they're based. And it's super fast

38:38

and it all ships out from Houston.

38:40

It's not easy. So this leads me

38:42

to believe that is Sutton even getting

38:44

these clothes or is a drop shipping

38:46

because they go to London. Does she

38:48

send the clothes to London? It gets

38:50

the code and then they send it

38:52

to Houston? Either way, I don't know

38:54

that it sounds like Sutton's really on

38:56

the, in the trenches, shipping these out

38:59

from her house or something. I thought,

39:01

what is going on here and you're

39:03

expecting your mom to like give you

39:05

a lot of praise? But I'm like,

39:07

but what is this business? It's like...

39:09

It almost feels like sometimes on the

39:11

Real House of New York, remember back

39:13

in the day, where Bethany would get

39:15

frustrated with Romona. I think Romona was

39:17

launching that skin care. And this was

39:19

towards the end of Bethany's run on

39:21

the Real House of New York, and

39:23

she just wasn't giving the energy to

39:26

the skin care line that Romona kept

39:28

trying to bring up in conversation the

39:30

whole season, because Bethany's like, I've seen

39:32

you launch a hundred products, and none

39:34

of them end up going anywhere. And

39:36

it's just another one of those things

39:38

that you're just sort of throwing your

39:40

name on, you're not really doing much

39:42

for. And I sort of felt like

39:44

that with Sutton, and maybe that's mean

39:46

of me. Maybe that's mean to me,

39:48

but I'm like, what this capsule collection?

39:50

It's like, what do you want her

39:52

to say or do? Like, what are

39:55

you actually doing for it? It sounds

39:57

to me, like, what do you want

39:59

her to say or do? Like, what

40:01

are you actually doing? Like, like, what

40:03

do you're doing? That's where it's based,

40:05

but then it ships out. from Houston,

40:07

and then, and then Reba says something

40:09

that was so wise to me. She

40:11

said, that reminds me of ground beef.

40:13

Ground beef is labeled, made in the

40:15

US. Reba said, sentence, reminder of ground

40:17

beef industry. I can't, I can't. Can

40:19

we just take a moment? Sentence, I'm

40:22

going to take these products because I'm

40:24

saving them for going in landfill. So

40:26

I guess that means she is just

40:28

saving these products, but so so you're

40:30

not designing them right like so I

40:32

just I think that's the part where

40:34

I'm getting confused about it It's like

40:36

so sudden's not sitting there designing anything

40:38

I'm not seeing her with a pen

40:40

or a crayon or anything like designing

40:42

what? I guess she's just taking stuff

40:44

so it's like me going to yard

40:46

sale and picking out some clothes and

40:49

then putting it online and calling it

40:51

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