0:10

So how was last weekend you had

0:12

the party? Yeah, we're in Craigie Beast

0:14

in town. I'm trying to remember what

0:16

else happened. Really Jesse? You don't

0:18

remember what else happened? You only

0:21

remember that Craigie Beast came to

0:23

tell you don't remember that some

0:25

trick sucked on your hoof in

0:27

Emerald's room? Come on now! These

0:29

guys were PMO this week pissing me off.

0:31

PMO. Him and Carl that other one? I'm

0:33

out of car. I've been sticking up for

0:35

Carl. You guys know this season. You guys

0:37

know this season. How many times have gotten

0:39

on this microphone? Even just last week, I

0:42

was like, Carl's trying to figure it out,

0:44

and he just doesn't have, I feel like

0:46

he doesn't have it all figured out yet.

0:48

And then this week, I'm learning a little

0:50

bit more about the soft bar, and I

0:52

went and did some recon. While I was

0:54

watching the Real House of Beverly Hills reading,

0:57

and I got bored, I decided to hop

0:59

on the internet, and I looked into soft

1:01

bar, and did you know that they're like

1:03

crowdfunding funding, okay? I don't want to misrepresent

1:05

anything or anyone yelling at me. But I

1:07

did do some pretty heavy research, aka about

1:09

30 seconds during the Real House of Beverly

1:12

Hills Union. I went on the internet and

1:14

I saw that they're crowdfunding. For something, it

1:16

doesn't even exist yet. They're just sort of

1:18

selling merch and then they're trying to open

1:20

some warehouse space in Brooklyn for the soft

1:22

bar launch, but they're looking for everybody else

1:24

to invest. And it's like. Nobody should be

1:26

open in, it's hard enough to be open in

1:28

any sort of bar or restaurant facility. We all

1:30

know that. It's like one of the most difficult

1:32

businesses I think that you can start. Okay? But

1:34

if you're gonna start it, you gotta have a

1:36

passion for it. And by passion, I mean that

1:39

you better put your own money in there. Now

1:41

I'm seeing that he's asking other people to invest

1:43

and it's like, you could be a part owner

1:45

of this. And I'm thinking, this is grafting. You're

1:47

being a grifter! I feel like he's grifting and

1:49

taking advantage of the summer house audience and I

1:51

will not stand for it because I know there

1:53

are some impressionable young people out there who are

1:55

going to invest because they're like, oh I like Carl in

1:57

summer house. I better get in on the ground floor of this

1:59

and the truth is... He's got to have enough

2:01

money to open that fucking bar himself.

2:03

Shouldn't be asking for everybody else's money

2:05

for that. I am disgusted. Disgusted, and

2:07

I'm sticking up for all of us,

2:09

because there's no reason that anybody should

2:11

be doing any money, because if you

2:14

go to that website, go to the

2:16

soft bar website, you guys. It looks

2:18

like a griff to me. I don't

2:20

trust it, at least to my eyes.

2:22

Okay, which I did just get a

2:24

eye checked. I checked. I checked. It's

2:26

just like what is it? And he's

2:28

doing the launch party on the show.

2:30

You mean to tell me you're putting

2:32

all that money into the launch party

2:34

on the TV show? He had to

2:36

pay for that. Okay, the launch party

2:39

for the TV show, which leads me

2:41

to believe that there is some money.

2:43

He's got money. Somebody's got money. Somebody's

2:45

got some money there. And yet you're

2:47

going on the internet and saying, oh,

2:49

other people, you want to get in

2:51

on this from the ground up? It's

2:53

like, oh, we're getting ready to open

2:55

the space. I'm like, open what space?

2:57

This place looks depressing. It's a warehouse

2:59

in Brooklyn. And I feel like it's

3:02

a grift. And so I don't think

3:04

anybody, oh, spend your own money, because

3:06

we all know the success rate of

3:08

bars and restaurants is not so high.

3:10

Okay, so it does actually PMO piss

3:12

me off that you're asking, I don't

3:14

want to keep saying PMO, but asking

3:16

other people to fund this thing that

3:18

probably won't last anyway, and it just

3:20

feels inappropriate to me because I know

3:22

that the audience, I mean, we're an

3:24

impressionable young audience. I once bought a

3:27

Kathy Wakeeliknoli, okay, I will buy pretty

3:29

much anything, but at least I'm getting

3:31

a product for it, at least I'm

3:33

getting a product in my hands. But

3:35

to just say like, oh, you want

3:37

to invest? Don't eat now. It's like,

3:39

no, they're never going to see the

3:41

return on that investment. I don't believe

3:43

my truth. And so I don't like,

3:45

it feels weird to me. And I

3:47

just don't appreciate that. I'm upset about,

3:49

I'm set up, Jesse. I also have

3:52

said at the mom too. I find

3:54

them. Mom, Carl's mom, there's some energy

3:56

that I do not care for. Here's

3:58

the thing, I feel like she just

4:00

is kind of coddling him a little

4:02

bit and she's like, oh, look how

4:04

proud we are. I'm like, proud of

4:06

what? He's throwing a party for something

4:08

that doesn't even exist yet and then

4:10

asking other people to fund it. Like,

4:12

are they not paying him over there

4:15

at Bravo that he can't fund himself?

4:17

They said he put in a hundred

4:19

K, but come on. When he said

4:21

to Gabby, he's like, oh, yeah, I'm

4:23

doing a big launch, it's a garden-themed

4:25

launch party, and I'm providing the jitney

4:27

for everyone, so they had to take

4:29

the jitney over to Jersey, and I'm

4:31

like, isn't the soft bar in Brooklyn,

4:33

like, why are they going all the

4:35

way? And that party costs money, and

4:37

so somebody's drifting, I think, maybe they're

4:40

Bamboosolment, or something. And we'll spend our

4:42

money on any of of these products,

4:44

And in this one, they're just going

4:46

to take the money allegedly, I don't

4:48

know, I feel uncomfortable about it. And

4:50

so I was supportive of this whole

4:52

grift for a while until I actually

4:54

went to the website and started to

4:56

do my little recon. I thought, uh-oh,

4:58

what are we doing here? This is

5:00

not right. So that's my final answer.

5:03

There it is, final answer. But oh,

5:05

in the mom. So I feel like

5:07

she kind of coddles them a little

5:09

bit. And I, okay. I come up

5:11

from a family of three boys, right?

5:13

My two older brothers, they're both married

5:15

to these fantastic women, I love my

5:17

sister-in-law's. But my mom was never in

5:19

that way, like, you know how some,

5:21

some moms of boys, especially when they

5:23

don't have daughters, sometimes they can be

5:25

too coddling and they always side with

5:28

the guy, their boys and stuff like

5:30

that. And my mom, Linda Pellegrino's never

5:32

like that. If anything, it's the opposite,

5:34

it's the opposite. their wives or something

5:36

which they don't but if they were

5:38

my mom would be like well what

5:40

the fuck did you do you know

5:42

like she wouldn't she wouldn't side with

5:44

with the with my brothers She would

5:46

side actually with the women and say

5:48

like, well, what the fact did you

5:51

do to make them pissed or to

5:53

make them do that? Like, that's what

5:55

she would say. And I feel like

5:57

Carl's mom was, she came on camera,

5:59

she was miked up and she was

6:01

ready to throw Lindsay under the bus

6:03

and she was miked up and she

6:05

was ready to throw Lindsay under the

6:07

bus and she was ready to throw

6:09

Lindsay under the bus and she said,

6:11

just last week on the show he

6:13

was sharing. I mean, get real, Sharon,

6:16

get real. Come on, just, can't believe

6:18

it, let me back up. See, I'm

6:20

spicy today, I'm in a spicy mood.

6:22

Beverly Hills House, I said, we'll get

6:24

to that, but we're starting with Summer

6:26

House, because I'm all worked up about

6:28

it, and I don't want to be

6:30

worked up about it. I was actually

6:32

liking that I was kind of on

6:34

Carl's side for once. I was feeling

6:36

that way. And I do want to

6:39

figure it out, but he is older

6:41

than I am. I look that up

6:43

too. He's 40, and so I just

6:45

think that at a certain point, you

6:47

can't be grifting so much, and you

6:49

need to figure out everything. All of

6:51

that. And look, we're all work in

6:53

progress, so I say that, and I

6:55

shouldn't judge, because who knows? I'll probably

6:57

go through some spurts in life too,

6:59

where I'm like, I don't know what

7:01

the fuck I'm doing. But I'm going

7:04

to, I'm going to, I'm going to,

7:06

I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm

7:08

going to, I'm going to, I'm going

7:10

to, I'm going to, I'm going to,

7:12

I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm

7:14

going to, I'm going to, I'm going

7:16

to, I'm going to, I'm going to,

7:18

I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm

7:20

going to, I'm going to, I'm going

7:22

to, I advertising as a place for

7:24

pregnant women to go. Look at you!

7:26

You have a baby! In a bar!

7:29

What was that when he was giving

7:31

that speech in Jersey after everyone got

7:33

off the jitneys? Like, welcome to the,

7:35

to this party to launch something that's

7:37

not even there. When did they film

7:39

this last summer? So it's still April

7:41

and it's not open yet. So what

7:43

were they celebrating? They were just celebrating

7:45

a whole lot of nothing. something that

7:47

was coming not a year later or

7:49

something, I don't understand that. But then

7:52

he's getting on a speech and he's

7:54

like, oh, I thought it'd be great

7:56

if Lindsay was here because we want

7:58

pregnant women to come and then he

8:00

said it again in the speech. And

8:02

like, this is not the market. That's

8:04

not good marketing. Okay, I'm not saying

8:06

that we don't need spaces for pregnant

8:08

women. Of course, we want pregnant women

8:10

to be able to. doing everything. We

8:12

support pregnant women. But I don't know

8:14

that that's smart marketing of like to

8:17

just say that's none of this makes

8:19

any fucking sense. And the whole cast

8:21

even agrees. They were all in the

8:23

confession. They were like, well, we're proud

8:25

of Carl. But you could tell they

8:27

all thought it was big flop. They're

8:29

like, what the fuck is this? We

8:31

don't fucking get up. And I don't

8:33

get up. And then even last week,

8:35

it was like. I thought it was

8:37

further further farther. I thought it was

8:40

more along than it seemed to be

8:42

this week because last week on the

8:44

show when they were on that pirate

8:46

ship, the fake pirate ship in the

8:48

backyard, Lil was like, oh you need

8:50

to do open mic nights there. And

8:52

so I just sort of assumed that

8:54

like the space was ready to go

8:56

and I thought maybe it hasn't open

8:58

because they were going to open it

9:00

on this season. But now come to

9:02

find out that it's still not even

9:05

open and they filmed during the summertime.

9:07

I mean, it's all, that leads me

9:09

to believe it's a grift, it doesn't

9:11

take that long. He's been talking about

9:13

this forever, so it can't take that

9:15

long to open up the warehouse space

9:17

in Brooklyn. And then he's selling, you're

9:19

selling merch, like that, it makes me

9:21

uncomfortable too, because they are, I think,

9:23

selling merch on the website for a

9:25

place that doesn't exist. So what you

9:28

mean to tell me I'm buying a

9:30

shirt for a store that doesn't exist?

9:32

I worry that other people are maybe

9:34

like him or like the show and

9:36

they're like, oh, let me get on

9:38

the ground floor and they're going to

9:40

spend their money and now's that's time.

9:42

Have you been paying attention? What's going

9:44

on in the economy? Now is that

9:46

the time? Now is not the time

9:48

for people to be just throwing their

9:50

money to Carl of all people. You

9:53

need to save your coins or invest

9:55

in something else. I mean, I'm concerned

9:57

for the American people or whoever who

9:59

might be spending this money. pregnant women

10:01

that Carl's advertising to? It's the greatest

10:03

bamboozlement I've ever accomplished. I worry about

10:05

the state of the world. I do.

10:07

I do. Anyway, let's back up here.

10:09

Let's back up and get into my

10:11

rage over Jesse too, because I want

10:13

to talk about that. But I do,

10:16

I'm concerned. I also just don't think

10:18

in general that people should be having

10:20

events so far away from everybody. I

10:22

mean, they had said they had to

10:24

go two hours to get to this

10:26

event. Gabby was like damn Carl and

10:28

Gabby was making me laugh this week

10:30

I do have to say she has

10:32

been flopping most of the season hasn't

10:34

really been offering much to the show

10:36

but this week I was like loving

10:38

her she was like really funny I'm

10:41

thinking maybe we need to see more

10:43

of Gabby because she's actually seems very

10:45

witty and she made me laugh like

10:47

at least three or four times this

10:49

week but she's got they all got

10:51

to go to this event that's within

10:53

walking distance okay I The event has

10:55

to be within walking distance for me

10:57

to go or I need to get

10:59

a big paycheck. Otherwise, I'm too old

11:01

and too tired to be hopping on

11:03

some jitney to get to an event

11:06

for a business that doesn't even exist

11:08

yet or establishment that doesn't. I used

11:10

to think it was a social anxiety

11:12

thing of like, oh, am I socially

11:14

anxious that I don't want to go

11:16

to that event, you know, Wednesday night,

11:18

and I realize like, no, I just,

11:20

it's too far away and I like

11:22

my home. So that's it. But Lexi,

11:24

she missed last week. She was in

11:26

Canada because her grandma had a double

11:29

mistake. This is actually, okay, I'm pissed.

11:31

The grandma's sick, okay? Lexi's, uh, mima.

11:33

And Jesse was there getting his hoofs

11:35

sucked and, Jesse was there getting his

11:37

hoofs sucked and flirting with Sierra and

11:39

doing all this stuff while Lexi's dealing

11:41

with her ailing great mima. Okay, she's

11:43

taking care of Nanao while he's getting

11:45

the dirty hoof sucked and he's getting

11:47

the dirty hoofs. He's like, oh, I

11:49

don't remember what else happened. It's like,

11:51

well, I remember what happened. I was

11:54

shouting at the screen. I'm like, I'll

11:56

tell you exactly what happened. You were

11:58

flirting with the other housemate. You were

12:00

telling. everyone how you didn't really seem

12:02

to like being in the relationship you

12:04

seem miserable and now that you feel

12:06

guilty you're all of a sudden saying

12:08

you want to have a exclusive relationship

12:10

it didn't ever seem like you want

12:12

to be exclusive but now that he's

12:14

feeling guilty about everything that transpired in

12:16

the last week and all of a

12:18

sudden he wants to be exclusive he's

12:21

like oh let me lock this down

12:23

it's like what in what world in

12:25

what world this is not acting right

12:27

on this network this week It was

12:29

a good episode though, wasn't it? It

12:31

did feel I'm worked up, but you

12:33

know what that means? Here's what that

12:35

means. Here's the silver lining, the gold

12:37

at the end of the rainbow. It

12:39

means that this was a good week

12:41

because I was watching and I was

12:43

like enraged. I was living on behalf

12:45

of just the show. I wasn't even

12:47

thinking of like, you know, my life

12:49

or the outside world. I always just

12:51

focused on my rage at these people.

12:54

And I think that's a sign of

12:56

a sign of a good episode. Because

12:58

it's like at least I'm getting worked

13:00

up about something like engaging in the

13:02

show. And so I do just have

13:04

to give production credit, I gotta give

13:06

the cast credit, I gotta give all

13:08

those men and the women and all

13:10

the messiness, the drama that they're dealing

13:12

with. Even Sharon, what's her face. You

13:14

know, I was pissed of Sharon, what's

13:16

her face. You know, I was pissed

13:18

of Sharon too, but honestly, sharing at

13:20

least give us on camera that I

13:22

can be engaged with. more so than

13:25

some of them women over there on

13:27

Beverly Hills or some of the other

13:29

franchises. You know, Sharon gave me more

13:31

engagement this week than the whole season

13:33

of the Real Houses in New York

13:35

did this year. So there you go,

13:37

Sharon. I guess we gotta give Sharon

13:39

her flowers in that way, although I

13:41

do not agree with anything she says

13:43

or does. And I think she is

13:45

coddling her son and needs to step

13:47

up and say, Carl, get your fucking

13:49

shit together and stop grifton. At least

13:51

she's like... He's lying about sexing that

13:53

girl, because we all know, I'm sorry,

13:55

allegedly he did have sex with those

13:58

women, I believe. I do believe that.

14:00

And no one can make me believe

14:02

otherwise. It's wrong, I don't know, but

14:04

it's probably not. I don't believe that

14:06

it's wrong, I think he did. And

14:08

of course he's gonna go with this

14:10

story about just, but 37 minutes, he was

14:12

in that room. 37 minutes, how

14:14

long was she second on the

14:17

toe? And if Emerald was in

14:19

the middle of a three-sum, what,

14:21

if Emerald was in the middle

14:23

of a three-sum, what, what, if

14:26

Emerald was in the middle of

14:28

talking about? more than a season,

14:30

so I know that he's not

14:32

just someone who's just sitting in

14:34

chat and having a conversation with

14:37

people about nothing. So something was

14:39

happening, they weren't just sitting there

14:41

on a bed, and I don't think

14:43

it was just sucking a toe for

14:45

37 minutes, because how long at a

14:48

certain point you get tired? We all

14:50

know what that's like, we all know

14:52

what it's like to suck on something

14:54

for a little while, and five

14:56

minutes, you're like, okay. After a

14:58

certain point, it's not 37. 37 minutes

15:00

is quite a long time. And I

15:02

don't care what it is you're sucking

15:04

on a popsicle, a hoof, anything, anything.

15:06

And so you mean to tell me that was

15:08

37 minutes and then some conversation? Absolutely

15:11

not, that's a lot. I won't believe

15:13

that. I'm not that dumb. I mean,

15:15

I'm not. I might be dumb enough

15:17

to buy all of these people's products,

15:19

but I'm not dumb enough to invest

15:21

in a bar that doesn't serve

15:24

alcohols market towards pregnant women. And

15:26

I'm also not dumb enough to

15:28

believe that it was just sucking

15:30

on a toe and then talking about

15:32

life for 37 minutes. I mean, do

15:34

not fool me, fool me once, fool

15:36

me twice. I don't know what that's

15:38

saying, guys, but I'm mad as hell.

15:40

I'm mad. I'm pissing me off these

15:43

people this week. But anyway, yeah, maybe

15:45

also he should have mentioned that he

15:47

was having this forsome or the toe

15:49

sucking or whatever, or even the flirtinging with

15:51

Sierra, that's another issue. It's like... Any of

15:53

these things that happened last week on the

15:55

show, it feels like he should have mentioned

15:57

to Lexi before, he's like, let's get a...

16:00

But he didn't want to because he

16:02

wanted to get her exclusive and

16:04

then it's like all mine games and

16:06

mine tricks. And I'm actually on behalf

16:08

of Lexi, I'm pissed. And she says,

16:10

she's like, don't make me look stupid,

16:12

as Sabrina Carpenter would say. So

16:14

she's of course invoking the words

16:16

of one of our current pop

16:18

divas Sabrina Carpenter we love. I

16:20

love her. Bedcom? Come on. And

16:23

Sabrina Carpenter is right. Don't make me

16:25

look stupid. Is this right? One of

16:27

our greatest poets, Sabrina Carpenter, said, do not

16:29

make me look stupid, young man. She didn't

16:32

say it like that, but you know what

16:34

I'm saying. Anyway, um, oh, oh my gosh, I'm actually

16:36

scared to bring this up, you guys. Pull

16:38

over if you're driving, because this is actually

16:41

going to get really, really scary thing to

16:43

talk about. But Lil's back this week, and

16:45

she went to Carl's launch party, and when

16:47

she got off the jitney, she revealed that

16:50

she made her outfit. This

16:53

woman's a mystery to me. She says,

16:55

if you look closely, you'll see the

16:57

safety pens. And like, she's on fucking

16:59

project runway. And I want to say

17:02

it through the screen, girl, you're not

17:04

on project runway. This is summer

17:06

house. And so I'm happy that

17:08

you're, she's being thrifty. At least

17:11

somebody's being thrifty in this relationship.

17:13

Lil's making her own clothes, putting

17:15

them together with safety pens, whatever

17:18

she's got to do. getting an

17:20

Uber ride share. She is actually the

17:22

thriftiest one on the show. She's someone

17:24

who I believe actually garage sales and

17:27

I would like to go garage selling

17:29

with her one day because you know

17:31

I love a garage sale. I love,

17:33

I can love a yard sale, a

17:36

garage sale. I was raised going to

17:38

garage sales. I'm nothing better, especially a

17:40

nice crisp fall day. That's my favorite

17:42

time. I'm not a big summer, summer

17:45

sailor. I like more when it's like

17:47

late, maybe like an August September. That's

17:49

premium garage sale month from Ohio. It

17:52

is. That's when you get the good

17:54

deals, end of summer. People are ready

17:56

to get a refresh for the fall, and

17:58

you really find some good. And I

18:00

think there's nothing better than thrifting through

18:02

someone's garage, just looking for shit and

18:04

then haggling, oh, I love it. When

18:07

I was a kid, I used to

18:09

live going in like getting, looking through

18:11

the video games or the movie stuff,

18:13

you know, you just find some interesting

18:15

things at a garage sale. And I

18:17

love it. I actually, there's this account

18:20

on YouTube that I watch, Chase after,

18:22

or Chase after gaming or Chase after,

18:24

he like goes thrifting at yard sales

18:26

and stuff. In the Midwest, it's these

18:28

straight guys, it's these straight guys.

18:30

And you know, I just sit

18:32

and I watch and sometimes they're

18:35

hour-longs and they'll just go and

18:37

they're going to look for like

18:39

mostly video game merch. I'm a

18:41

big Nintendo junkie. So they go

18:43

look for video game merch. I'm

18:45

a big Nintendo junkie. So they

18:47

go look for video game merch.

18:49

So they go look for video

18:51

game merch. And then they just,

18:54

they show footage of them going

18:56

to these garage. the women who are

18:58

running the garage, they'll be like, you know, I

19:00

think I'm the back, I have some, or one of

19:02

the guys will be like, you know, I got a

19:04

box over here and then they'll come out and bring

19:06

a box of like old ass Super Nintendo games and

19:09

then chase this guy who runs the account, he'll like

19:11

look through them all. And it's like really low

19:13

stress and I'm talking about it right now and I

19:15

worry that some of you might go look it in

19:17

the way that in the way that I do

19:19

because there's like no conflict. It's one of

19:22

my favorite, I watch them, Matt like laughs

19:24

at me because I'll sit, I get so

19:26

excited when they upload a new one, but

19:28

it's chase after, chase after gaming or chase

19:30

after, chase the right price or something. Oh,

19:32

and sometimes they go to like those convention

19:35

centers where they sell like the, they set

19:37

up tables and do like the swap meets

19:39

and stuff. Oh, I love it, I could

19:41

watch, I think there should be more garage

19:43

sale shows, I really do. I would actually

19:46

love to just do like a. a show about people

19:48

garage sale. I don't know exactly what

19:50

that means, but I'd watch it because

19:52

I love that shit. Anyway, I feel

19:54

like Lil and I, maybe that's it.

19:56

Maybe Bravo if you're listening. Me and

19:58

Lil, just, Dylan Lil. Danny and

20:00

Lil, Dill, just going garage sale

20:02

and I don't know, I'll workshop,

20:05

that, but I feel like she's

20:07

the kind of gal who would

20:09

do that. She needs to get

20:11

away from Carl though because Carl's

20:13

gonna steal her money or something,

20:15

you know, or maybe she can

20:18

help him, I don't know. But she

20:20

did go to New Jersey, got

20:22

off the jitney and that homemade

20:24

outfit. Bailey was there too. I

20:26

thought they'd edit her out, but

20:28

all of a sudden she was

20:31

there and she was like telling

20:33

everyone, she's like, oh yeah, he

20:35

hooked up with Sierra Eve. She

20:37

was telling everyone. I was like,

20:39

good for you, Bailey. Make your

20:41

screen time valuable. So they couldn't

20:43

edit her out. They needed her.

20:46

You know, they needed her. But Carl's

20:48

mom is at this place. I mentioned,

20:50

she said Lindsay was mean to

20:53

her or forgotten. It's settling to me.

20:55

I just don't like it. And I

20:57

don't like, there's just, the boy moms out there,

20:59

you know, I know that there's a lot of young moms

21:01

out there that listen, and I hope that just don't

21:03

coddle your young boys. I say that as I'm not

21:06

a parent quite yet, so I'm sure as soon as

21:08

I become a parent, I'll coddle my kids. I'm sure

21:10

I won't heed this advice. But I do just want

21:12

to encourage the boy moms out there, you got

21:14

to, you got to kind of, you got to

21:16

kind of, you got to kind of, you got

21:18

to kind of, you got to set them straight,

21:21

you got to set them straight. You gotta give

21:23

them the business sometimes. You can't always just side

21:25

with the boys. You gotta think like, okay,

21:27

I gotta raise a good son, but also

21:29

I gotta lay down the law because they

21:31

can't just be right all the time. Because

21:34

obviously Carl's a menace to people as well.

21:36

He's not just some innocent person in everything

21:38

in life. And so you need to either butt

21:40

out or if you're going to butt in

21:42

this business and get on camera and mic

21:45

yourself up, then you need to at least

21:47

recognize that your son might have done some

21:49

stuff too. Do you see what I'm saying? But

21:51

the whole cast again thinks this whole

21:53

thing is just really a grift because

21:56

West Jesse and Page, they're all interviewed

21:58

about it in the professional. And they

22:00

all say it's a flop, but

22:02

they're like, well, he's healthy now,

22:04

so you know, good for him.

22:06

And we want that, we want

22:08

healthy, we want healthy, but maybe,

22:10

I, maybe just don't, and don't

22:12

ask other people for money, right?

22:14

Or maybe just don't ask other

22:17

people for money, right? Or maybe

22:19

just don't throw parties for businesses

22:21

that aren't open yet. Maybe you

22:23

should have just waited like I

22:25

see it. And so I'm sorry,

22:27

I hope I don't get in

22:29

trouble for saying all that, but I

22:31

don't know who's going to get me

22:33

in trouble. I mean, they're asking for

22:35

money from other people, so what are they going

22:37

to come after me with, you know?

22:40

Seems like whatever funds shouldn't be used

22:42

towards legal fees, it should be used

22:44

towards opening that place, because I don't

22:47

even see an existing spot open that

22:49

I could go to to get one of

22:51

those cocktails and hang out with some

22:53

pregnant women at that soft bar. Again,

22:57

we want, I want there to be,

22:59

I guess, bar spaces for expected mothers.

23:01

I want expected mothers to want to

23:03

go and be able to go wherever

23:06

the fact they want. I prioritize them

23:08

now more than ever, I love them.

23:10

And so, you know, we want that

23:12

for them. I just don't know if

23:14

the car's soft bar is the place

23:16

for them to do that, because it

23:18

seems like it's just a very dimly

23:21

lit space warehouse space in Brooklyn. as

23:23

it stands, that's selling a couple t-shirts

23:25

that say softbar, even though the location

23:27

didn't even open yet. Anyway, Carl, he

23:29

also says he's doing sprinter van pop-ups,

23:32

but then he wants the physical space

23:34

in 2025, whatever. Okay, I feel like

23:36

I already was mean enough about that

23:38

place. And again, we also want spaces

23:41

for sober people. I mean, I think

23:43

that's great, but maybe it should be like

23:45

something... else to this, like an arcade. I

23:47

just mentioned video games. Maybe that's what it

23:49

is. Maybe it's like a video game place.

23:51

I would go there. That doesn't serve

23:53

any alcohol. Maybe I'm just explaining an

23:55

arcade. Actually, I think I'm just describing

23:58

an arcade. But you know, people Arcade

24:00

should come back. I believe that. If

24:02

somebody opened like a nice upscale arcade,

24:04

I'd love that and serve artisanal drinks,

24:06

that sounds actually pretty nice. Like I'm

24:08

talking upscale, upscale. You know, just a

24:11

couple, maybe some old school games. I'd

24:13

love it if there was a room

24:15

that you could go into play like

24:17

N64, coming out with a new switch. It's

24:19

coming right before our babies come in.

24:21

And I am like over the moon,

24:24

because I'm like, okay, when babies sleep

24:26

and that's what... That's what daddy's gonna

24:28

be doing. He's gonna be playing Open

24:31

World Mario Cart because it's coming

24:33

in June. I saw it. I saw

24:35

it. I saw it. Okay, Jesse then

24:37

talks to Paige and Gabby and says

24:40

that he wanted exclusivity with Lexi. And

24:42

they're like, well, do you? And he's

24:44

like, well, honestly, no guy just wants

24:47

to hook up with one girl. And

24:49

they're like, actually, that's what you should

24:51

want if you are asking someone

24:53

to be exclusive with you. I don't understand.

24:56

Jesse needs to get it together. He

24:58

needs to get together. And he obviously

25:00

doesn't want to be with Lexi. So

25:02

it's like fine. I don't have a

25:05

problem with that. They're young and trying

25:07

to figure things out. Like, God bless.

25:09

You know, you gotta kind of date

25:11

and see if you want to be

25:13

exclusive without telling her the whole background

25:15

of what you did last weekend. And

25:17

then also it's very clear that you

25:19

don't want to be exclusive. So just

25:21

don't. I'd respect him so much more

25:23

if he was like, hey, I know

25:25

that's what you want. I don't want

25:27

to be exclusive right now. Totally understand

25:30

if we're not on the same page,

25:32

but then maybe we should just see

25:34

other people and unfortunately that means it

25:36

won't work out with us. And let's be

25:38

friends and hang out. Maybe then when we're,

25:40

if we're drinking and we make out, cool,

25:42

but otherwise, we probably shouldn't be in

25:45

a relationship together. You see what I

25:47

mean? Just say that. Really just basically

25:49

saying how you actually feel. It's a

25:52

wild concept in these times, but

25:54

I do believe that's the

25:56

future. That's the future. Truth is

25:58

the future. I suppose. Let's take a

26:01

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28:44

some family. Just a quick little weekend

28:46

trip before baby comes. And so this

28:48

is being recorded early. And so I'm

28:50

actually like a week behind on the

28:52

Real Houses of Atlanta. So apologies, I

28:54

know we're not fully recapping it. I

28:56

can only do recap two shows at

28:58

a time. Otherwise I get a little

29:00

nuts and you guys don't want that.

29:02

I already sound nuts enough. So I

29:05

can only do two at a time.

29:07

But I do like to dip in

29:09

and talk about a little bit on the

29:11

show, but unfortunately I'm a week behind on

29:13

it. I only saw up until Kenya and I

29:15

didn't see Kenya's hair care opening episode.

29:17

So I haven't seen the most recent

29:19

one as of this as you're listening. But

29:21

so I don't know what's going

29:24

on. I don't even want to

29:26

talk about it because I'm like,

29:28

I don't know what happens at

29:30

that hair care. And I feel like

29:32

that's what every, where everything happens.

29:34

You know what I'm saying? But

29:37

anyway, where were we? I'm excited

29:39

to go home. I'm excited to

29:41

visit some, my nieces and nephews

29:44

and all that kind of stuff.

29:46

So it'll be fun. She talks

29:48

about modeling. But. I just would

29:50

like to point out I know they do this a

29:52

lot on these shows and it always kind of PMOs

29:55

P pisses me off because on all of

29:57

these shows especially when we're getting to know

29:59

people for them first time. They always say

30:01

everybody's a model, right? So on Housewives, how

30:03

many times have we seen a new Housewife

30:05

come on and they're like, I'm a model

30:07

and then we see these photo shoots that

30:09

they do. But most of the time, I'd

30:11

say 99% of the time in the history

30:13

of the Bravo network, these photo shoots that

30:15

we're seeing, like they're buying headshots, right? And

30:17

so shoot, I just would like to point

30:19

out, yes, as a model you do need

30:21

to get updated to get updated to comp

30:23

cards and modeling shots and modeling shots and

30:25

all that, and all that, and all that

30:28

I get it. But I do feel like

30:30

the editing tries to be boozlest in a

30:32

thing like they're on a job and it's

30:34

like no she actually was just

30:36

paying to get these new headshots

30:38

made and So I'm not saying

30:41

that she doesn't do these other

30:43

jobs or do these other gigs

30:45

But this wasn't like her modeling

30:47

for guest jeans or something.

30:49

Do they even make guest

30:52

jeans anymore? Remember structure? Was

30:54

it a store? That was

30:56

a men's clothing store, I think.

30:58

Uh, you know, I found an old

31:00

American Eagle thumb ring that I had.

31:02

Remember thumb rings? Oh, I fucking love

31:04

my thumb ring. They might be in

31:06

style again, I don't know. I like

31:09

a ring on my finger in general.

31:11

I like rings, but a thumb ring

31:13

was like really big at American Eagle

31:15

days of your. Okay, so Lexi's getting

31:17

the headshots and she said she has

31:20

managers She used to have managers all

31:22

over the world in Milan and New

31:24

York and now she just works with

31:26

the mom and the sister and I don't

31:28

know I wish The parents also need to

31:31

like let their kids fly on their own

31:33

and maybe just the sister to the mom

31:35

the sister. I'm happy that the

31:37

families working together My family works

31:39

together. I kind of ran like hell

31:41

because I just think I'm not a

31:43

I think it's good to kind of do

31:45

your own thing, but everyone has their own

31:48

thing. And everyone has their own dynamics

31:50

with their family. But I just feel like with

31:52

Lexi, I worry, and I see these red flags,

31:54

I'm like, Lexi girl, we need them to let

31:56

you fly on your own, because I feel like

31:58

she's getting a little too reliant. and she's always

32:00

saying, like, we hang out all the time and

32:02

it's fun. I feel like she's trying to convince

32:04

us. Like, it's, no, it's fun. Like, we go

32:06

to the clubs and we get in the back

32:08

door, but I never like to go to the

32:10

club without everybody. And then I work with my

32:12

parents and I, why not work with my mom?

32:14

Why not work with my mom? Why not have

32:16

her be my manager because I'm with her, because

32:18

I'm with her, and I'm like, I feel like,

32:20

she's just convincing us, she's just convincing us, I

32:22

can like, I can like, like, like, like, she's

32:24

trying to, like, like, like, like, like, like, They

32:26

tricked me into doing this, you know what I

32:29

mean? Like, I was young and impressionable and

32:31

they convinced me that this was

32:33

the way, like, maybe because I

32:35

don't know, think of it, but

32:37

use your imagination. Something to think

32:39

about, like I always say, some

32:41

to think about, there's something. Something's

32:43

there that we all need to

32:45

think about because I feel like

32:47

it's very unsettling. The mom, the

32:49

sister, they're always clubbing together, they're

32:51

always doing all this stuff together

32:53

and and then to hear Lexi

32:55

on or professional just try to

32:57

convince us of all this stuff.

32:59

Like there's something to think about there.

33:01

So just everybody this week, while you

33:04

go about your days, just think about

33:06

that because there's something there to think

33:08

about and we all need to figure

33:10

it right now. But I think that

33:13

in the future, it's going to be

33:15

something that's going to come up again,

33:17

because they're highlighting it too much too.

33:19

The editor's production, they're highlighting

33:21

it. So there's something there, and we

33:24

all need to just have our wits

33:26

about us, and we need to be on

33:28

our toes and be recognizing that

33:30

something's there, and we need to be

33:32

ready for it. Because there's stuff

33:35

there. Okay, so then, oh, when Gab talked

33:37

a little, did you guys see that? This

33:40

is my favorite Gabby moment because Lil

33:42

was talking about how her parents

33:45

friended Carl Which I think I said

33:47

last week on the show like Lil had just

33:49

met Carl I got it mixed up which happens,

33:51

you know, it does happen because half the time

33:53

I'm I'm barely paying attention You know if

33:55

I get bored So like last week on the

33:58

show they were saying it was like Carl and

34:00

Lil seen, you know, you can only pay

34:02

attention to someone so long when they're talking

34:04

about magic and making their own clothes and

34:06

stuff. At certain points, too much to take

34:08

in. And so I think I did misunderstand

34:10

that last week, but Carl did become friendly

34:12

with her parents, and then it was revealed

34:14

that Lil slid in the DM's, and then

34:17

we find out this week, Lindsay says that

34:19

she saw a number, and she thinks that

34:21

Lil was trying to get in while they

34:23

were engaged. And I don't like that. Make

34:25

me turn on Lil. She better watch her

34:27

piece and cues too because I was just

34:29

about ready to do a garage-sailing show with

34:31

her. And now I think that shows fucked

34:34

because I'm pissed at her now. I'm pissed

34:36

at her again. And so, Lil, I was

34:38

on your side, I was ready to go

34:40

pitch the network. I was ready to set

34:42

up a meeting with the cock, peacock, and

34:45

get us a show together. But now that

34:47

I'm thinking about it, and you were

34:49

trying to side in his dams before, while

34:52

he was engaged to another woman. Our show

34:54

is fucked. Our show is fucked. Now I

34:56

need to find somebody else to co-host that

34:58

with me, which I don't even know what

35:01

it is, but we're going to have to

35:03

figure something else out. At least right now,

35:05

because I'm worried. I'm worried. Gabby, though,

35:07

they do a kickball game. I used

35:09

to play on a gay kickball league

35:12

when I first moved here in West

35:14

Hollywood. I had to stop, because everybody

35:16

would always drink all the time. And the

35:18

one time I perhaps partake, in the drinking before

35:20

the game. And I sprained my ankle and then

35:22

I ended up in the ER and I had

35:25

to call my bestie jail. She like came to

35:27

the ER and I was just like in my

35:29

kickball clothes and I was like so wasted in

35:31

this ER just being like, I think I broke

35:33

my foot. I just still like twisted my

35:35

ankle or something. But I was like, maybe

35:38

I shouldn't play because I'm getting injured and

35:40

the medical bills are adding up because I'm

35:42

drinking before the kickball game and that's not

35:44

going well for me. But anyway, Gabby's piss,

35:46

she had to go play kickball. She had

35:48

to go to New Jersey. She's like, look,

35:50

what show did I sign up for? She

35:52

thought she was getting on the Bravo network.

35:55

This is usually the Bravo network when somebody

35:57

tells you, hey, do you want to do

35:59

this Bravo? show, you're thinking housewives,

36:01

you're thinking of upscale. So Gabby,

36:03

I don't know if she had a

36:05

familiarization with Summer House before she joined

36:07

the show, but she, if she didn't,

36:09

she was probably thinking I'm joining some

36:11

ritzy show about people in the city

36:13

and people who are well connected and in

36:15

New York, whatever. Instead, she's like, I've got

36:17

a fucking play kickball and then take two

36:20

hour jitney to support a business, don't even

36:22

exist yet. And then every week they got

36:24

to drive, what, five hours to the house.

36:26

She's like, what the fuck show did I

36:28

send up for? And so I feel bad

36:30

for her. But Lindsay was, we hadn't had

36:32

Lindsay much last week because she didn't go

36:34

to the house. But she says, Lindsay says she's

36:36

not going to celebrate a non-thing, which is true.

36:38

Like, why are we all celebrating a non-thing on

36:40

the show? She says she saw the DM on

36:43

Carl's phone with a cell phone number. And

36:45

she doesn't like Carl acting like the

36:47

victim. She said, if that happened, you

36:49

can't be the victim if that was

36:52

happening. And I kind of get that.

36:54

And she's like, I'm not gonna let

36:56

it slide. And here's the thing.

36:58

Lindsay, I think, is a bit of

37:00

an assole, but I respect that she's

37:03

like a bit of an assole. It

37:05

seems especially this season. She's like, yeah,

37:07

I'm being an assole. Does it make

37:09

sense? It's like, it's up front and center.

37:11

And she's like, yeah, I'm not going to

37:14

let that slide with Carl because I'm pissed.

37:16

And I support that for our enjoyment for

37:18

the show, for the TV show, because we

37:20

need something. And so, yeah, I wrote my

37:23

notes. This is when I also looked up

37:25

softbar here too. And then Lindsay tells the

37:27

women about Carl's lies. And Paige was like

37:29

loving it. When Lindsay was like telling all

37:32

the gals, like, yeah, Carl's lying about this

37:34

and I saw the text message or whatever.

37:36

Paige was just smiling. There was not a

37:38

lot of Paige in Craig's stuff. Except for

37:41

at the beginning of the episode, when Paige

37:43

was saying goodbye to Craig, you could tell

37:45

she hated him. She definitely wanted to

37:47

murder him at the beginning of the episode.

37:49

Did I already say about the confessional where

37:51

she's got that brooch that pokes the nipple?

37:54

Do you know what I'm talking about in the

37:56

confessional look? With the dress, it's like, pokes the

37:58

nipple. It's so cute to me. I like

38:00

it. But she was really living for that.

38:02

And obviously she hates Craig. That's very

38:04

clear to me. And then Emerald, Emerald is

38:06

kind of throwing Jesse under the bus

38:08

too. Jesse's like, why couldn't we keep

38:10

it between us? Emerald. And it's like, well,

38:13

because it happened on camera on the TV

38:15

show that we're filming. So Emerald at

38:17

least is stepping up and being a reality

38:19

star now. Because for the rest of

38:21

the season, I feel like, Emerald hasn't been

38:24

doing anything. Except for bringing people home who

38:26

haven't sign releases. And here's something I

38:28

want to say, because I mentioned

38:30

about the releases and how production

38:33

needs to get them to sign

38:35

a release. And some people said

38:37

that production is maybe not there.

38:39

There is production there. They're not

38:42

there all the time, but there's

38:44

production there. They don't just like

38:46

leave them in a house with

38:48

cameras and then like nobody's there.

38:50

There's cameras there. There's production there.

38:53

And even if it was the

38:55

case, They would still a good producer would

38:57

also still track down the people that

38:59

they need to sign release forms. Do you get

39:02

what I'm saying? Because if they were going

39:04

to be so hands off, they would have

39:06

to be hands on in other ways. So

39:08

they would still have to try to figure

39:11

out who it was that they need to

39:13

have signed the release. So that's the issue

39:15

I have. It's just like nobody's tracking these

39:17

people down that Emerald's fucking and hooking up

39:20

with Jesse. And this feels like a pretty...

39:22

relevant plot point of this TV show now.

39:24

It's been a couple weeks and it's causing

39:26

all this drama with Lexi. And so it

39:28

feels like we need to get them to

39:31

sign those releases. I need to see who they

39:33

are, I want to get to know them, we

39:35

need to get them miked up, I

39:37

need to know exactly what happened,

39:39

get them know exactly what happened,

39:41

get them in a confessional. That's

39:43

one thing I'm loving about, the

39:46

real houses Vellina. I think it

39:48

was in the premiere with Portia, where

39:50

she's... They are talking to her in the scene

39:52

with Dennis, so she's crying. And I've been saying,

39:54

you guys, a long time listening, I've been saying,

39:56

we need to bring that back, because it used

39:58

to happen in the early... They would have

40:00

Dwight just laying on a table and

40:03

they would be talking to him in

40:05

the middle of the scene. Or they'd

40:07

have Kim Zulsiak with a cigarette and

40:09

a glass of wine. They'd be like,

40:11

well, how do you feel about what

40:14

Nini just said? And it wouldn't be

40:16

like one of those confessional that they

40:18

film months later. It would be like

40:20

one of those confessionals that they film

40:22

months later. It would be like in

40:24

the middle of these dinners or right

40:26

after these dinners, right after these dinners.

40:29

and I think you get more raw

40:31

emotion and it also I think feels

40:33

more real it doesn't feel as stage

40:35

and set up so I hope they

40:37

it seems like they're maybe kind of

40:39

bringing that back a little bit at

40:41

least on Atlanta I noticed that and

40:43

I don't love all the new production

40:45

choices on Atlanta but that's one where

40:47

I'm like yes spot on we need

40:49

to do more of that so good so

40:52

good okay then what else oh what

40:54

they when they play the kickball game

40:56

there was this scene where West was

40:58

catching the ball and he like tumbled

41:00

and caught it and it did awaken

41:02

something within me. But still I

41:05

rise. Like it was very attractive

41:07

to me. It was. It was.

41:09

I don't know. And I'm not

41:11

loving West this season, but I,

41:14

something was awoken to me when

41:16

he just did that tumble and

41:18

caught the ball. It was very

41:20

sexy to me. So good job.

41:22

Good job. Then, you know, the

41:24

end, Lexi talks to Jesse, talks

41:27

to Jesse, talks to Jesse, Like,

41:29

would just be honest with her.

41:31

And also, just like, don't date.

41:33

Like, they don't, they just don't need

41:36

a date. Like, here's the problem.

41:38

It's like, they don't realize.

41:40

Sometimes with, like, these guys on

41:42

the show, they don't realize that everyone

41:45

wouldn't hate them if they, I'm

41:47

fine with them hooking up and

41:49

sleeping around and sleeping around and sleeping.

41:51

Just be like Emerald even I don't

41:53

even mind that he's hooking up. I

41:55

mind that they're not showing us who

41:57

these people are and they're hiding everything

42:00

from the cameras, but I'm thrilled. Emerald, go

42:02

fuck whoever you want, like, consensually, of course,

42:04

but I'm fine with all of that. It's

42:06

great. You're young and you're on the show,

42:08

like, just date around and flirt around and

42:11

all those kinds of things. But don't like...

42:13

pretend to be in a relationship or like

42:15

try to half be in a relationship. I

42:17

think that's when the audience turns on you

42:20

because we've all been in relationships like that.

42:22

We've all been in where we think the

42:24

guy really likes us or we think we're

42:26

we're the relationship is stronger than it really

42:29

is and then we feel humiliated. And so

42:31

that's what the audience responds to and

42:33

then that's why people are then will hate

42:35

you, right? That's when the audience will get

42:37

pissed at West or last season like they

42:40

did or whoever it happens on all the

42:42

shows and it could be so easily sorted

42:44

if the guy was just like yeah I

42:46

just feel like cooking up with different people

42:49

right now like I'm not ready to settle

42:51

down or or I just don't like that

42:53

person that much like just be open up

42:55

front about it and then no one will

42:57

really give a shit and it's like great

43:00

but I feel like they don't realize that

43:02

and then so they try to half go

43:04

in a relationship or they try to go

43:06

on a relationship or They

43:08

see that when these relationships, it does

43:10

help their careers. Whether we want to admit

43:13

it or not, I think like Paige and

43:15

Craig getting together was very good for both

43:17

of their careers at that time. During that

43:19

time, they got, they're going to get more

43:21

brand deals, they're going to get more press,

43:23

there's more interest from the audience, like we're

43:25

all more invested in both of them because

43:28

they were in this relationship that crossed over

43:30

to two shows. And so maybe that's

43:32

part of it too. It's like,

43:34

oh, well, if I get in

43:37

a relationship with another Bravo celebrity,

43:40

like that's good for me

43:42

and my career. But then, do

43:44

they actually want that? I

43:47

don't know. Something think about?

43:49

Something think about? Okay, I got

43:51

all my rage out on Summer House.

43:53

Shall we? Oh, I have more

43:56

rage for Beverly Hills. We're at

43:58

the reunion and you know. I

44:00

don't really cover reunions, so it's just going

44:02

to be a few thoughts. I say a

44:04

few thoughts now, but it might be longer

44:06

than that. We'll see. Sit tight, little bear.

44:08

The Beverly Hills reunion. Now, there's

44:11

something about the Garcell stuff that

44:13

I would like to address. Specifically

44:15

about that whole Dereat in the

44:17

robbery situation, and Garcell says that

44:19

she believes that that was set

44:21

up or whatever. And it's pointed

44:23

out, like Dereet saying, How dare you

44:25

do that? And I've seen a lot

44:27

of people say, yeah, that is inappropriate.

44:29

Marcel should have never brought that up.

44:32

And it's such a horrible thing to

44:34

say, especially if it's not true, whatever. But

44:36

I think we all need to also realize

44:38

that this is all coming from the

44:40

top down. So these shows over the

44:42

past five or so years. They've been

44:44

promoting casting, filming these shows like True

44:46

Crime series for about five or six

44:48

years now, right? Even on Beverly Hills

44:50

this season, they picked up filming for

44:53

that scene in the finale that I

44:55

said could have been an email about

44:57

Erica's lawsuit. And they keep people like

44:59

her and Jen Sean these shows because

45:01

it's like this true crime aspect to

45:03

these shows. So they present Heather gays

45:05

black eye like a murder mystery. And

45:07

they created this sort of culture

45:09

within Bravo that makes it so the

45:12

audience. is expecting these true

45:14

crime mysteries. And of course I think

45:16

that's impossible to sustain over the long

45:18

term. And in some of these cases,

45:20

I think that they just kind of

45:23

struck gold and they had someone like

45:25

Jen Shahn a show and then of

45:27

course it blew up to this big

45:29

case and Homeland Security came and it

45:32

caused all this cultural conversation and it

45:34

maybe was accidental. But I feel like

45:36

they have since really leaned into that

45:38

true crime murder mystery esk. nature within

45:41

all these shows. And so I don't

45:43

think it should be so far-fetched

45:45

for someone like Arsell or

45:47

the audience to question Doreen's

45:50

robbery when they're presenting

45:52

these shows in that way. And also

45:54

we've seen so many crazy things like

45:57

that happen on these shows and be

45:59

high. on these shows that I feel

46:01

like it's almost insulting to the audience

46:03

to be like, oh, look how mean

46:05

Garcell and the audiences for suspecting Dereet's

46:07

robbery to be made up or fake.

46:09

Now, I also see Dereet's side of

46:11

things and saying, you know, her being

46:13

like, what the fact that's such a

46:16

horrible thing to say if it didn't

46:18

happen, that didn't happen that way, you

46:20

shouldn't even accuse me of that happening

46:22

that way. I understand that for Dereet.

46:24

But I don't think that the whole... the

46:26

audience should feel like so crazy for

46:28

thinking that or Garcell should feel so

46:30

crazy for thinking that when that's how

46:33

these shows have been for the past

46:35

five years and and maybe they're sort

46:37

of pivoting away from that and going

46:39

back to basics in the Housewives universe

46:41

but then it's like Garcell's then left

46:44

looking like the asshole for questioning it

46:46

when that's how these shows have been

46:48

added and presented and promoted to us for

46:50

five years now and so that must be

46:52

a mind-fucked to be on one of those

46:54

shows. and you're seeing how that's a thing

46:57

everywhere on all these shows and then when

46:59

you question it all of a

47:01

sudden you're like you're such an asshole

47:03

for questioning it's like well what what

47:05

that's how all these shows been like

47:07

we just went through all that air could

47:09

change shit with Tom Girardi they even picked

47:11

up filming at the end of this season

47:14

to continue talking about that legal stuff to

47:16

present it more as like this legal mystery

47:18

and all and so I don't know I

47:20

just feel like oh so Garcella as a

47:23

take the brunt of all that and I

47:25

feel like that's fucked up. And again, if

47:27

from Duret's perspective, I also see like it'd

47:29

be fucked up. If I, if people

47:31

I was on a TV show with

47:34

were accusing me of setting up some

47:36

sort of robbery that wasn't true, I'd

47:38

be like, that's fucked up. Like you

47:40

can't do that, that's inappropriate. But I

47:42

just don't think Garcell should be just

47:44

like single-handedly taking the fall for that

47:47

when she's on a show that's presenting

47:49

these kinds of things pretty commonplace across

47:51

the whole network. So that's that's my thought

47:53

on that. I don't know. Let's take a break

47:55

here. We got to talk more about Beverly Hills.

47:58

One more break and we'll come right back. We're

48:06

back. It's the greatest

48:08

bamboozlement I've ever accomplished. Now,

48:10

the Real House is Beverly Hills reunion

48:12

when they all arrive. I do love

48:14

seeing all those shots when they arrive,

48:16

and I love when Andy goes to

48:18

each room and chats with them. And

48:20

I like the theme. You know, I'm

48:23

glad we're not in that theme. You

48:25

know, I'm glad we're not in that

48:27

sort of a weird spot that the

48:29

Salt Lake City was when they have

48:31

the reunion set, and it looks like

48:33

a pirate ship with ice and stuff.

48:35

It was a tropical St. Lucia theme.

48:37

It was nice. Kyle brought her crystals.

48:39

She also showed up in that kitten

48:41

heel. And I don't know, did

48:43

they, anyone notice how they like

48:45

closed up on Kyle's kitten heel

48:48

when she was walking? Oh, I

48:50

loved it. Carcell also said she was

48:52

caught by TMC at the airport. I

48:54

just, I know, I feel like no one

48:56

gets caught by TMC. I think like,

48:59

that has to be set up, I

49:01

thought. I don't know. Also, Dereet, you

49:03

guys, I just know she was living

49:05

to be in that first chair. She

49:08

was living to be in that first

49:10

chair, even though her life was like

49:12

kind of blowing up and her current

49:14

husband sent in a statement that really

49:17

threw her home to the bus. I

49:19

still feel like Dereet was happy as

49:21

a clam to sit in that first

49:24

chair, because she was on the end

49:26

the last season, and she was

49:28

hanging on for dear life. And I

49:30

feel like she really came alive this

49:32

season, the storyline was really revolving around

49:34

her. And so despite the fact that

49:37

her life seemed to be blowing up,

49:39

actually I think she was really happy

49:41

as clam to be sitting in that

49:43

first chair right next to Andy. And

49:46

Bamboozle Jane was over there on the end.

49:48

And I felt like at the end, I always

49:50

think the person on the end is gonna maybe

49:53

add unnecessary drama to the show.

49:55

So I feel like at the end of

49:57

this episode, really Erica was going in on

49:59

a carcell. has to do something

50:01

because otherwise they're going to

50:03

be cut too. They're worried

50:05

about their jobs. And she

50:08

also brought up how the

50:10

coffee table, you guys, oh, the coffee,

50:12

wait, let me do one more

50:14

audible sigh, the coffee table.

50:16

It was like we're at the

50:18

reunion and we're still having to

50:21

deal with decoration stuff

50:23

from Erica. Like I can't,

50:25

I cannot. And she just stopped, it was

50:27

like mid something, I don't even know what they

50:29

were talking about, it was like something they were

50:31

talking serious about, something serious, and then all of

50:33

a sudden Erica jumped in was like, is that

50:35

my coffee table? And it was like, girl, we've

50:37

had enough about your decor. I don't, I'm happy

50:40

that you got your house redone, but I don't

50:42

care that the coffee table looks the same as

50:44

the coffee table but your home. I don't care

50:46

about any of this, any of your, any of your

50:48

decor. I did care about it for about

50:50

five episodes. I could do five episodes of

50:52

it. Five episodes, I was actually thrilled about

50:54

it. I was loving seeing it at first,

50:57

because I do love a reveal. I love,

50:59

show me a reveal, show me a before,

51:01

show me a before, show me a before,

51:03

show me a before, show me a before,

51:06

I love that for maybe an episode, two

51:08

episodes, three episodes, four episodes, five episodes. When

51:10

we're at the reunion, I got to talk

51:12

about the coffee table by your new. And

51:15

it's like, I can't, I don't care

51:17

about the coffee table anymore. I can't

51:19

hear about one more design piece at

51:21

Erica's house, and they even showed a

51:23

side by side. They showed a side

51:25

by side, and it's like, we've seen

51:27

it. I know exactly what I could

51:29

draw from memory at this point. I

51:31

can draw the wallpaper on our walls

51:33

from memory. I could close my

51:35

eyes and draw it probably perfectly right.

51:38

because I've seen it so many times

51:40

that they've shown us the new carpets

51:42

and the drapes and the rugs and

51:44

the coffee table and then they're showing

51:46

it again at the reunion. We have

51:48

other things to get to at the

51:51

reunion. There's like pretty serious stuff about

51:53

a robbery and... Anyway, speaking of serious

51:55

stuff, there was really a funny moment

51:57

when Andy read a question from some...

51:59

name Snoopa loop and it was about

52:02

domestic abuse victims and he's like I

52:04

have a question from Twitter from at

52:06

Snoopa loop and I was like snoopa

52:09

loop there's that's camp that to me

52:11

I was like that's Pekos wives when

52:13

Andy just asked a question from someone

52:16

with like a crazy handle I love

52:18

it I there's nothing better to me

52:20

that's it's like a very serious it's

52:22

the high low that's the high low

52:24

of brava brava that we all come

52:26

to it in love it's like the

52:28

laughs with the Snoop-a-loop wanted to know

52:30

and it's like snoop-a-loop and then it

52:33

was some serious question I think it

52:35

was like I don't know it was a

52:37

serious thing but I loved it loved it

52:39

now PK declined to appear PK he said

52:41

engaging with three in this forum would be

52:43

destructive and it was like the first

52:45

time that I thought PK was actually

52:47

a good parent because I do think

52:50

it's a terrible forum for two people

52:52

who are getting divorced and have kids

52:54

to be discussing their parenting and

52:56

so So I know Dreat has told us

52:58

that he's like not a good dad or

53:01

whatever. And I believed her until that moment.

53:03

That was the first time where I was

53:05

like, maybe he's not so bad because he

53:07

actually declined to show up at this reunion.

53:09

Like that seems like a good parenting choice.

53:12

Because God bless Andy, we love Andy.

53:14

We do. He does a great job,

53:16

but he's also not a therapist. So.

53:18

I'm glad that for once somebody had

53:20

some good sense to say like, oh

53:22

yeah, we're going through something pretty serious

53:24

and we have young kids at home.

53:26

So maybe it's not the forum to

53:28

go on a reunion stage that's supposed

53:30

to look like St. Lucia and it's

53:32

got one of Erica's free coffee tables

53:34

in the center to discuss our parenting

53:36

and our divorce. So that was the

53:38

only time I thought, okay, PK made

53:40

a good parenting decision, I guess.

53:43

But he says he wanted a

53:45

good parenting decision I guess. I think he

53:47

just wanted like the version that he

53:49

was maybe in control of. I don't

53:51

know. And then there was like this

53:53

whole thing about PK being insecure about

53:56

Doree's fame. I don't know. I think

53:58

it was also just Dreeke. of hanging

54:00

on to the job for dear life because

54:02

she did have to get messy and

54:05

Kyle kind of kept alluding to it

54:07

or saying it on the reunion this

54:09

week of like, you weren't the doree

54:11

that I know, I didn't recognize you.

54:13

And what she was saying is like,

54:15

you were acting crazy for the

54:18

show. That was interesting. But also,

54:20

PK sobriety comes up and doree

54:22

basically says he's not sober. And

54:24

this is when Erica interrupted by

54:26

helping to help doree in that

54:29

moment. Like maybe she just wanted

54:31

to change the subject of Dereed

54:33

a minute to get her bearings. I

54:35

don't know. Dereed also laughed off

54:37

the foreclosure about the house, but

54:39

then she's like, oh, but it's

54:41

actually in pre-forclosure. I was like,

54:43

okay, well, there's obviously money issues.

54:45

Okay. The point of the conversation wasn't

54:48

like the ins and outs of the

54:50

foreclosure. I think it was like, is everything

54:52

okay? And I wish we would dive, I

54:54

feel like we need to kind of skipping

54:56

skipping over some stuff. I don't know. Sutton

54:58

was also PMO pissing me off because

55:00

Sutton I didn't think Garcell always has

55:02

her back and I I do agree

55:05

I don't know if it was Erica

55:07

said this I think it was good for

55:09

Garcell and Sutton to separate a

55:11

little bit but then also I felt

55:13

like Sutton just was sort of turning

55:15

her back on a Garcell and I

55:17

don't like that either so I don't

55:20

know what the right answer is but

55:22

I didn't like it Andy caught some

55:24

strays though because They were talking about

55:26

Sutton said men approaching 50 who haven't

55:29

been married have commitment issues. And Andy's

55:31

like, I'm over 50 and I've never

55:33

been married. And I was like, poor Andy.

55:35

He's catching strays on this one

55:38

and married to medicine. Do you

55:40

guys watch the Married to Medicine

55:42

reunion? The reunion's been good. Although,

55:44

married to medicine, I've always said

55:46

is the most consistent show on

55:49

Bravo. But actually, this season was

55:51

a little rough. But the reading

55:53

has been good. And Dr. Simone

55:55

like sort of threw Andy under

55:57

the best, something about like parenting.

56:00

And I was like, Andy's sitting there, he's

56:02

like, well, wait a minute, like, are you

56:04

talking about me? And Dr. Simone said something

56:07

about, I don't know, being an older

56:09

parent or something. And then here, Andy's

56:11

getting strays about being over 50 and

56:13

never been married. I'm like, these gals

56:15

are really going after the boss this

56:17

week on the shows. Like poor Andy's

56:19

sitting there trying to get him to

56:22

all find peace, and they're just throwing

56:24

him on right under that bus. I

56:26

don't know that bus. We might not

56:28

be seeing Dr. Simone or we might

56:30

not be seeing Set next season because,

56:32

you know, it's not good to throw

56:35

that man under the bus. We

56:37

all know what happened to Carol.

56:39

So, justice for Carol. But Sutton,

56:41

I don't know, I don't know,

56:43

I don't know. Boes said she

56:45

feels like she's been vulnerable about

56:48

the baby and she's sick of

56:50

all the opinions. And that was

56:52

actually, I appreciated hearing that. I

56:54

wish... I wish she would just say, like,

56:57

it's nobody's business, but then I guess

56:59

the show is our business because

57:01

it's reality show. So, I don't know.

57:03

That's where it gets hard for me,

57:05

because I understand what she was saying,

57:08

like, she's sick of the opinions about

57:10

it. But then, well, what are we

57:12

supposed to do? If we can't have

57:14

opinions about your life, then what are

57:17

we watching? Isn't that the whole point

57:19

of a reality TV show? We did

57:21

need Tilly and Kathy to get there.

57:23

I was like thinking we need some

57:25

light energy, you need Jennifer Tilly to

57:27

pop in, I need Kathy to pop

57:29

in because this group, they all very

57:31

clearly hate each other. And that's maybe

57:33

why I like the reunions on Beverly

57:35

Hills a little more than the seasons

57:37

because I feel like that facade comes

57:39

down and you just sort of see

57:41

how actually miserable they are with each

57:43

other and how much they actually despise

57:45

each other. And so we're not pretending

57:47

so much. I do, I need a little like

57:50

lighter energy. I was just feeling like

57:52

a pretty dark energy. Kyle looked like,

57:54

uh, I mentioned video games earlier. There's

57:56

a video game called Chante. I hope

57:58

I'm saying that right. Chante. to play

58:00

it. I loved it. It's

58:02

like, look it up. It's

58:04

S-H-A-N-T-A-E. And Kyle was sort

58:06

of just like Shin-Tay. In

58:08

a good way, I liked

58:10

it. I liked it. But then,

58:13

oh, there was a stuff

58:15

about Kyle coming to Garcell

58:17

off-camera to talk to her,

58:19

and Garcell's like, well,

58:22

why did you come off

58:24

camera? Like, that shouldn't be

58:26

a surprise. But... There's something

58:28

bleak about how they just seem to

58:30

plan everything on this show. And maybe I

58:32

don't need to know that they're planning everything

58:35

on this show. But Garcell, everyone is

58:37

going in at Garcell. I'm like, I

58:39

don't even know why. It seems like

58:41

they're hating on Garcell so much this

58:43

week. And I'm like, did Garcell really

58:45

do anything to justify any of this?

58:47

Like, I'm not saying Garcell didn't deserve

58:49

any smoke, but I feel like they were

58:51

going in so hard on so hard on her.

58:53

And I just thought it was

58:55

strange, like a weird pivot, because

58:57

it didn't seem like ourselves,

59:00

the focus of anything this season.

59:02

And then, I don't know, what

59:04

did her face? Erica said she's

59:06

boring. And maybe like she just

59:08

doesn't have much more to show.

59:10

And so it was weird to

59:13

me because Erica said, oh, we

59:15

want to see who you're dating

59:17

and stuff. But it's like, we

59:19

haven't seen who Erica's dating either.

59:21

Or I don't think that she

59:23

would have shown any of that

59:25

because, I don't know, I feel

59:28

crazy, I feel nuts, but whatever.

59:30

It's the greatest

59:32

bamboozlement I've ever accomplished.

59:34

But still I rise. Still we

59:36

all rise. Anyway, I don't think it's

59:38

much of a good show, but next

59:41

week, we have Jennifer Tilly and

59:43

Kathy coming out and I'm excited. I

59:45

do really, I have to say. I

59:47

was tough on Beverly Hills, but the

59:49

reunions are at least really entertaining to

59:52

me, the Beverly Hills Re unions. So

59:54

something about the reunions kind of perked

59:56

me up a little bit, and so

59:58

that's good. But I don't know. to me, they just, I

1:00:00

hope, I don't know, I feel like I always just complain about Beverly

1:00:02

Hills. Next scene, you know, we only covered two shows at

1:00:04

a time, I mentioned. And so maybe next season we just

1:00:07

really, I've taken off from Beverly Hills a few times, but

1:00:09

in the past, there's been seasons I haven't covered fully. And

1:00:11

maybe that's the route I need to take. So this is

1:00:13

a me problem. This is maybe a me issue. And so

1:00:15

we'll have to see what happens. We're gonna have to see

1:00:17

what happens. We're gonna have to watch what happens. We're going

1:00:19

to watch what happens. We're going to watch what happens. We're

1:00:21

going to watch what happens. We've got to watch what happens.

1:00:24

We've got to watch what happens. We've got to watch what

1:00:26

happens. We have to watch what happens. We need to figure

1:00:28

out what shows we're going to be covering the

1:00:30

valley coming up and so we're going to be

1:00:32

finishing up summer house and then diving into the

1:00:35

valley. Those are going to be the two shows

1:00:37

that we're covering at this moment. And then, you

1:00:39

know, when the other stuff happens in the

1:00:41

zeitgeist, when other stuff happens on Atlanta or

1:00:43

I don't know what other shows are coming,

1:00:46

but we'll dip in, but I can

1:00:48

only fully recap and take notes for

1:00:50

two shows because otherwise I get nuts.

1:00:52

And it's already, I already feel crazy

1:00:55

like taking notes on these shows. You

1:00:57

guys should see all this paperwork that's

1:00:59

on the floor in front of me.

1:01:01

Because when I'm recapping, I just throw

1:01:03

the sheet down as I finish.

1:01:06

And it is crazy. It's like,

1:01:08

if somebody were to get a

1:01:10

hold of these papers, they'd probably

1:01:12

throw me in jail. I've got to be

1:01:14

careful. Okay, I love you all so much for

1:01:16

listening. That's it. That's the end of the episode.

1:01:19

I don't think I have anything else to say.

1:01:21

But go get those books on sale. You know,

1:01:23

go get them. Okay, bye-bye. Baby

1:01:55

girl, you know