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Hello, everybody. I'm Dennis Prager with
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Wouldn't you know it, on the 350th, a truly
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good stuff is a big deal in life. Okay,
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so guess
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what I'm going to be talking about
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in my opening comments. Normally
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you can't guess because it's very rarely tied
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directly to the news or something
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happening, but in this case, where
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we have just witnessed the
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attempted assassination of
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a former president and
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presidential candidate nominee
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for the office, that's
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a rather important subject. So
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my take on
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issues is always, as you
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know, the broad picture and
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the philosophic one. There
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are obvious political elements, but I
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want to deal with a few
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of the larger elements to
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begin with. And I'll begin with
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something especially dedicated to those
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of you who
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are young. By young, I mean,
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you know, let's say under
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25, under even perhaps 30. Both
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as regards the United States and virtually
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every country in the world. This
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is not the first assassination or
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in this case attempted assassination of
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an American leader. Abraham
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Lincoln, the greatest president alongside
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George Washington was assassinated.
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James Garfield, another president was assassinated
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and it wasn't even a political
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issue then. It
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was a
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strange guy who was
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angry at the president, then James Garfield,
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who was a wonderful man, by the
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way, for not
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getting him a job in
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the government. I mean, it's
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beyond belief. And
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the poor president lingered on because
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doctors in those days basically
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did harm. They
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did more harm than good. You
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were very lucky if no doctor attended
3:32
you. They tried to get
3:34
the bullet out and they would stick
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their dirty fingers into his body where
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the holes were, which of
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course created an infection, but they never heard
3:44
of infection. They didn't even know about germs.
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And so the poor president who might
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have actually survived if
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doctors had not infected him, lingered
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in pain and finally died.
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But that was one and then
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James McKinley's first name,
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William McKinley. President
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William McKinley was assassinated. Then
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Teddy Roosevelt became a president
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as a result of that. And
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John F. Kennedy was assassinated in 1963 and
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Martin Luther King was assassinated
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and Bobby Kennedy,
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John Kennedy's younger brother,
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who was running for president for
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the nomination of the Democratic party and probably would
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have gotten it. I mean, so
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what is my point? My
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point is you
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need to understand and very few
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young people do. Indeed,
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very few people, not just young,
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very few people do period. When
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you grow up in a country like
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the United States, where
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things for most people
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are relatively remarkably good
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financially, freedom wise, opportunity wise. This
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is why so many in the
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world have wanted to move to
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the United States. You
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start taking it for granted and
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then you're shocked when evil takes place.
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There are bad people on this planet
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and they do a lot of damage and it
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doesn't take a lot of people to do a
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lot of damage. The
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communists were a tiny group and then they
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ended up killing just in the Soviet Union
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20 to 40 million innocent people. And
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they were, the Chinese Communist Party was tiny and
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they ended up killing about 60 million Chinese and
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enslaving a billion people. And
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the Nazis were a minority in Germany and
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look at what they did. It doesn't take a lot of
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people to do a lot of
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bad. It's
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It's a tragic fact of life. So
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maybe you should understand then,
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this is not new. Every
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day that something terrible doesn't happen is
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a blessing. Or as
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I put it on my Happiness Hour on
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my radio show, if nothing's
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horrific, life is terrific.
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And that's true in the macro, in
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the societal realm, and it's true in your personal
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life as well. Next.
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For eight years now,
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Donald Trump, I
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have heard regularly, I mean regularly,
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called a Nazi, called a
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white supremacist, called a racist, called
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a fascist. You
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can't say that about a person
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thousands and thousands of times
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and have no impact on
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someone. I
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think it has an impact on a lot of people. If
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Donald Trump is a Nazi, he
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deserves to die. I'm
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sorry to say that, but there
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are levels of
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evil that render you
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worthy of death. I
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would think Nazi is one of them. He
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was, in other words, he's called the worst
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possible thing a human being could be, and
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then people are shocked if somebody tries
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to kill him. And
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then we're told both sides need
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to cool the heated
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rhetoric. Well,
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most of the heated rhetoric comes
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from one side, and
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it's the side that calls not just
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Donald Trump. My God,
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when Charlie Kirk and I spoke at
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Arizona State University, we were called white
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supremacists. When
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I spoke the University of Wyoming, I was
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called an anti-semite They
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just throw out horrible names. I mean,
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I'm a committed religious Jew I've
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written the most widely used introduction to
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Judaism in the English language and I'm
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an anti-semite They just
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they just throw out these words because the left
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smears they don't debate 34
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professors at Arizona State wrote that no
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one should attend our lectures Charlie's in
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mine And all
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I said is why don't you come on
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my radio show and tell people why I'll
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give you a vast national audience I'll
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give you more people than you will ever speak to in
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your life Tell them
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why I'm so terrible, but they don't even come
8:44
on that let alone invite me into their classroom
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So Donald Trump is just writ
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large what happens to all people
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Who are opposed to the left and I
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don't mean opposed to liberalism opposed to the
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left You are
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you are attacked mercilessly as a Nazi
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is a fascist and so on Listen
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I've said that in regard to I'm always
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asked why think that there was cheating in
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the 2020 election and I
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I've always Answered I
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have a few answers, but I only give you one
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now one that I've always given is If
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you really believe Donald Trump is a fascist
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and a Nazi and a white supremacist racist
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Why wouldn't you cheat? What
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I have cheated if I were a vote
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counter in Germany in 1938
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or 39 the last election that they had there
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and I
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could I could have tilted the election
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away from the Nazis wouldn't I have cheated?
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It's so you can't have it both
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ways you can't say oh X
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is a Nazi, but we should not
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do anything Wrong we
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shouldn't Try to cheat in
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an election. We shouldn't try to kill
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him No, then
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he's not a Nazi if you really believe he's
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a Nazi and by the way the people who
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really did that there were a fair number of
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people on the internet and Reports
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that I got from callers of
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people saw too bad the shooter missed Well,
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and they are the only
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consistent ones we think
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he's a Nazi it's too bad the
10:27
shooter missed That's the
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only logical Deduction
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Conclusion to be reached if you
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think that Donald Trump is a
10:38
Nazi too bad the shooter missed
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that's that's actually a Logical
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conclusion you can't say
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oh, he's a Nazi. Thank God. He
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wasn't killed That
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doesn't make sense So
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the the they have set a
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terrible agenda here of staggering
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horrible terms used I Remember,
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I used to be invited on CNN Pretty
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often and and then that
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just stopped but I was on in
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the very beginning of the Trump era
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and I Was
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on with three guests and the
11:23
host all of them said Donald Trump
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was it was it anti-semite? The
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problem is I know
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what anti-semitism is and
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I knew that Trump wasn't But
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it was amazing to me. I felt like I
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had entered the Twilight Zone he's
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it wait, so he has a religious
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Jewish daughter and Religious Jewish
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son-in-law and religious Jewish grandchildren
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and he's an anti-semite. That's
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a first But
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it didn't matter just call
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him anything to destroy him And
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then somebody did try to destroy him. And
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a final thought on his
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behavior, even
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in the New York Times, they
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grudgingly acknowledge that it was quite
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remarkable. His presence of
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mind after being shot puts
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his hand through his ear and it's filled with blood.
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And he falls down and, well, in
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order to avoid getting shot more, I
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don't think he fell down.
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I think he decided to go down. And
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I mean, this man is larger than life. There's
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just no question about it. And
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that is undeniable. The
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presence of mind, the calm with which
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he reacted. I think
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most people shot on the
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side of the head bleeding
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would probably be yelling, I'm
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shot, I'm shot or something
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to that effect, right? I'm
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bleeding, I'm bleeding. Get me help. Get
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me out of here. It
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says, no, no, no, I want to put my shoes on. Isn't
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that amazing? Want
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to put my shoes on. And then
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looks at the crowd and goes fight, fight. Certainly
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among those who
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are truly admirers of
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him, I mean, this confirms
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their adoration of
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him for
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logical reason. This is
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a larger than life character. So
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I think
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this language just needs
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to stop. He's
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not a Nazi. Oh, and by the way. To
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Prager use credit About
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six years ago We
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put out a video called the
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Charlottesville lie Steve
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Cortez Was
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the man who delivered it he's a
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terrific news person
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commentator and It
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has many many millions of views I'm
14:25
maybe 10 million This
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notion that he said
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after there were some demonstrations
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and Anti
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demonstrations in
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Charlottesville, Virginia When
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he said there were fine people on both
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sides he was trying to calm down
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the situation He was not
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talking about Nazis. He never
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said Fine people
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With the reference to the Nazis. That
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was a separate March He
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was talking about pro and
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anti Confederate statues Not
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about Nazis and anti Nazis It's
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a lie and Snopes, which is
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the one of the most Widely
15:16
used fact-checkers and is
15:18
liberal not conservative said
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it was a lie Just recently
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but the New York Times
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repeats the lie regularly that
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he called Nazis fine people
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and The
15:32
president of the United States Joe Biden
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Said it in his debate and keeps
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repeating it. I went into
15:39
this and ran for president because
15:43
Donald Trump said that Nazis
15:45
were fine people and
15:48
they just keep up the lie. He never said it
15:51
You should watch our video, but I just want
15:53
to know I want you to know we're on
15:55
record While
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I'm talking about what records were on
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I just want to remind you that
16:02
within six weeks of
16:04
the lockdowns, I
16:06
said that the lockdowns were the greatest
16:08
international mistake in history. And
16:13
that's on the internet. I
16:17
said it on radio. I said it at PragerU. And
16:23
I was quite attacked for it because
16:25
the experts came out
16:27
for lockdowns. I
16:30
am going to do a fireside
16:32
chat on experts.
16:35
That will be one of the great fun
16:38
moments of my life to
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let you know what I think of experts. Not
16:45
experts' knowledge, experts' wisdom.
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I don't have an issue with experts' knowledge.
16:52
I have big issue
16:54
with their honesty, their integrity,
16:57
and their wisdom. So
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if I want to know how
17:03
do mitochondria work, I will go
17:05
to an expert biologist. No
17:08
question. But if I want
17:10
to know whether to deprive children of school for
17:12
two years, I will not go
17:14
to quote-unquote experts. I
17:17
will go to people with wisdom. And
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in that case, I would have gone to
17:22
Sweden. But that's a separate
17:24
subject. In any event, just
17:27
know that the human
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condition is a very troubled one.
17:33
America has been pretty blessed. Europeans
17:37
have had staggering wars on their
17:39
soil. We've had one
17:41
war on our soil, a civil war. Europeans
17:45
had World War I and World War II. So
17:50
people all over the world
17:52
know suffering on a scale
17:55
that is exponentially greater than
17:57
the suffering that America has.
17:59
have had. So
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I am not shocked when a bad thing happens,
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as happened this past weekend. Okay.
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To your questions, here we go. Hi,
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my name is Sahil and I'm from India. I had
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two questions for Mr. Prager. Number
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one, patriotism. It used
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to be considered a very good
18:27
quality, but now the work left has
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ensured that it is seen as an
18:31
evil. How exactly are you
18:33
planning to combat it? And number
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two, when are you coming to India? We
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are a country of 1.4 billion who
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had a very strong value system, but
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now is crumbling thanks to the West.
18:45
We need someone like Prager you to come
18:47
here and make
18:50
things better again. Boy,
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do I agree. We do. Okay,
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so thank you very
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much. I wish you would have
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told me what city you're in. I've been to India
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four times. People ask me
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because I've been to 132 countries,
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not that I'm counting. And
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so what's your favorite to visit?
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And there is no answer. I
19:15
have loved virtually every one of the 132. Most recently Greenland,
19:17
which is
19:26
not exactly a tourist destination,
19:29
but it was fascinating. I find every
19:31
country fascinating. And they are.
19:33
Every country is fascinating. But
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I always mention to people, Israel and
19:38
India, those are mine.
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And then I did an
19:42
analysis in my own mind. Gee,
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why do you recommend Israel and
19:47
India? Do they have
19:49
anything in common? And I get, yes, they're
19:51
the only two countries in the world with
19:53
their own religion. There's
19:56
only one Jewish country. There's only one Hindu
19:58
country. I don't know. Maybe. Maybe
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there's, you could
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speak of Nepal or something,
20:04
but there's one Hindu country,
20:06
there's one Jewish country. So maybe
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that's part of the fascination that
20:13
one would have with both countries. Anyway, I
20:15
really love visiting your country. So
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patriotism, yes, the left
20:21
loads patriotism because
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patriotism is a form of nationalism.
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I love my country is not
20:29
a left wing idea. It's a
20:31
liberal idea, it's a conservative idea.
20:33
It's not a left wing idea. I
20:36
love my race, that's a left
20:39
wing idea. But I
20:41
was raised as a liberal to believe
20:43
I love my race is
20:45
racist. By the way,
20:47
I still hold that view. I
20:49
love my race is pure undiluted
20:51
racism. There was nothing
20:54
to love about your race, nothing.
20:58
It's a skin color, that's
21:00
all it is. And what
21:02
if you're mixed race? Which race do you
21:04
love? I'm very serious. Let's
21:07
say you have a black father and a
21:09
white mother or vice versa. I
21:12
love my race doesn't mean much because unless
21:15
you love two races, but then
21:17
that sort of
21:19
obviates the point, doesn't it? No,
21:25
the left has killed patriotism because
21:28
it's love of country. In
21:31
the United States, I can tell you that
21:33
on holidays where when
21:36
I grew up, you saw so
21:38
many American flags, July 4th, American
21:40
Independence Day and the
21:42
last, Monday
21:45
in May, Memorial Day, so many
21:48
flags were around. And
21:50
now if you even show
21:52
the American flag, you're considered
21:55
almost a fascist. It's
21:58
really tragic. what's happened to
22:01
patriotism. So
22:03
I didn't know
22:05
that this is happening in India
22:07
because I thought under your Prime
22:09
Minister Modi, there was a resurgence
22:12
of Indian nationalism and patriotism. So
22:15
I just, I don't know how to apply
22:17
it exactly, but I'll tell
22:20
you what you said that's really sad. Something
22:23
to the effect, maybe it is here. Yeah.
22:30
We are a country of 1.4 billion who
22:33
had a very strong value system, but
22:35
now is crumbling thanks to the West.
22:38
It's so ironic because the West brought
22:40
you so many of the values that
22:43
you adhere to, and
22:46
now the West is taking back
22:48
its values. This
22:53
is so sad and
22:55
potentially catastrophic for the human
22:57
race. Western values
23:00
are great values. They're
23:05
Judeo-Christian and they're
23:08
rational. And
23:12
that's a great combination. Judeo-Christian and
23:14
reason, that's
23:16
the best combination for
23:19
a good society. All
23:23
right, thank you. And
23:26
now a Prager United question. Prager
23:28
United members get the first question
23:31
after the video question. This
23:33
is from Angela A28 in Miami, Florida.
23:39
Hi Dennis, I was very impacted by
23:41
your story of your father calling his
23:43
mother each week, only to
23:45
say, yeah ma or
23:47
okay ma, every so often while his
23:50
mother yelled at him. I
23:52
strive to honor my parents and parents-in-law in
23:54
the same way. Do you have
23:57
suggestions on how to do this when parents
23:59
are being difficult? in
30:00
any event, stay
30:03
well, be strong, and I'll see
30:06
you next week. The
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