Should I move to an off-the-grid commune? (Advice for and from the Future is Back!)

Should I move to an off-the-grid commune? (Advice for and from the Future is Back!)

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Hey there, it's it's me, Rose, I'm and

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I'm here with a really cool announcement.

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Some of Some of you might remember

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that a couple of years ago, I

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launched a kind of sister show show to

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flash forward, called Advice for and Future. the It was

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sort of a of a looser, more more

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relaxed take on the future where I

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answered questions about things like, things like,

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should I cry or preserve my dog,

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and should I follow my boyfriend boyfriend

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to I did one season of the

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show, 12 episodes, episodes, and then I aside

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to work on other stuff, like, tested. But

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exciting news. The The show is back,

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You have two new hosts, who worked with

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had a hand in some of

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my all -time favorite podcasts. We

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also have a new have a new producer, who,

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as you'll get to know over the

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show, is absolutely brilliant. On

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this new season, the team

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And through those questions, you'll get

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Plus, just like the first season, the

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listening to this. Again, it's called Again,

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it's called advice from the future. future. Welcome

2:04

to Advice for and from

2:06

the future. I'm Furlan and this

2:08

is a safe space for

2:10

those of us kind of of forgot

2:12

how to read an analog clock. I'm

2:15

just saying, if that's you, it's fine. It's

2:17

fine. Ozzie And I'm Ozzy and I just

2:19

and I just wanted to give

2:21

you permission to schedule your text

2:23

messages. Yes, is this is

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possible most apps most apps Message, which is the

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one which is the one that

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like doesn't do this. yes.

2:32

But I yes, but I just learned

2:34

this recently. I'm pretty sure it's

2:36

going to change my life. my

2:38

Time is officially fake. And today we're going

2:40

to talk more about that. Each week

2:42

on week on this show you'll

2:44

hear a question hand selected machine, our which

2:46

sends us advice questions from the future.

2:49

And the future. of course, of course, hand the

2:51

ones that we think will be

2:53

most useful to you, our dear

2:56

listeners, here in the present.

2:58

the present. our producer, Siona, is also in

3:00

the present with us to read a

3:02

question for us. Hi, Siona. us. Hi, Siona. 'all.

3:04

Hi, all. So you you won't always

3:06

hear Siona's voice on this show, her

3:08

but her thoughts and editorial perspective

3:10

will all be sort of reflected

3:12

from behind the scenes in everything

3:15

you hear, and she'll be here

3:17

with us to read the questions

3:19

that we have each week. we

3:21

And you will also be hearing

3:23

from her in from her in voice little

3:25

later on today's episode. So

3:27

So what is our question

3:29

for this week? week? Should

3:32

I move to a commune that's off

3:34

the grid and doesn't use clocks? use clocks?

3:36

Honestly, off the bat. bat? This This

3:38

sounds like a dream. Go Go for it. I

3:41

love that. Like, I'll see I'll see you when the

3:43

flowers bloom. bloom, okay? I feel I feel

3:45

like my immediate reaction is like, no,

3:47

like, don't leave leave society like, I feel like,

3:49

just I feel like there's just

3:51

a piece of it that's like. the

3:54

I worry about the isolation time a friend is like,

3:56

I friend is like I want to

3:58

do this thing that's gonna to like, me

4:00

from community that I'm in or like

4:03

isolate me further in some way that

4:05

scares me. Totally. That said, I love

4:07

the idea of not using clocks and

4:10

like forgetting about time. So I think

4:12

there is something that I'm drawn to

4:14

in this lifestyle they're describing. I mean,

4:17

I think that sounds like freedom. I

4:19

think that sounds like you've transcended. You're

4:21

like in a different kind of planet.

4:24

But like, I don't know if any

4:26

of you have anyone in your life

4:28

who doesn't have a cell phone. It

4:30

really is like they don't exist in

4:33

the same way. I mean, I want

4:35

them to exist obviously, but it's very,

4:37

very, very hard to to

4:40

connect. Definitely. I don't think we

4:42

realize that we are in orbit

4:44

until we have to reach back

4:46

to someone who you know is

4:48

like tethered in a different way.

4:51

Yeah, it's interesting that you say

4:53

that because I think like when

4:55

I was thinking about what it

4:57

would be like to not have

4:59

clocks or to not follow like

5:01

a time schedule or know what

5:03

time it is, I was thinking

5:05

about this camping trip I was

5:08

on where we didn't have cell

5:10

service and so we were like

5:12

wandering around in the woods a

5:14

lot without our phones at all.

5:16

And the lack of just like

5:18

having that little device in your

5:20

pocket that says the exact time

5:22

just really changed how I was

5:24

relating to time for like those

5:27

few days. You know, it's like

5:29

you still sort of know the

5:31

general time based on the sun

5:33

if you're outside. So like that

5:35

was one surprise. But it also

5:37

felt completely different to not like,

5:39

even if I had my phone

5:41

and knew it was exactly 305,

5:44

it's like nobody else knows that.

5:46

So that's not really important. right

5:48

in a vacuum if I'm the

5:50

only one that knows the exact

5:52

time it is it actually doesn't

5:54

matter and is it even that

5:56

time if like I'm the only

5:58

one who thinks that out of

6:01

this group that I'm in well

6:03

here's my pitch okay are you

6:05

ready I'm so ready if you

6:07

really want to like disengage from

6:09

time you have a baby make

6:11

a human because this whole process

6:13

where you have to like make

6:15

the baby and that takes like

6:18

a really long time and also

6:20

feels very fast and it's like

6:22

I'm not ready at all and

6:24

yet here I am and it's

6:26

happening and blah blah so there's

6:28

that aspect but then once the

6:30

baby is on the earth all

6:32

of a sudden you're up in

6:35

the middle of the night and

6:37

you are on a pace of

6:39

like the human being and like

6:41

you your job is to sort

6:43

of like keep this tiny being

6:45

alive and fed and clean and

6:47

and like there is no speeding

6:49

that up there's no way to

6:52

speed it up there's no way

6:54

to slow it down Yeah, absolutely.

6:56

I think I'm really just fascinated

6:58

by like, how did we get

7:00

to this point where we all

7:02

are sort of like looking at

7:04

our little clock on the bottom

7:06

of our laptop screen and that's

7:09

how we know what time it

7:11

is? A big piece of why

7:13

we have time and clocks. is

7:15

thanks to capitalism and it's actually

7:17

because of trains schedules. So the

7:19

very first time that like a

7:21

standard time zone was adopted in

7:23

the UK was 1847, which was

7:26

when trains were sort of widespread

7:28

enough that schedule confusion started being

7:30

an issue. So if you like

7:32

left one place and then it's

7:34

a totally different time in your

7:36

destination, it's like what's going on.

7:38

Like you can't say when the

7:40

train is going to come if

7:43

there's not a standard. time that

7:45

applies to all of those locations.

7:47

Well and also you could the

7:49

train could crash like that's like

7:51

you needed to make it so

7:53

that trains are not like both

7:55

trying to do things. So right

7:57

so that multiple trains aren't yeah

8:00

running into each other exactly as

8:02

soon as clocks and standard time

8:04

was a thing it sort of

8:06

immediately became a tool of like

8:08

colonialism and capitalism as as things

8:10

often tend to do. Wow why

8:12

am I not surprised? Yeah like

8:14

the British Empire started spreading to

8:17

India and colonizing there, they started

8:19

trying to enforce British standard time.

8:21

And there was actually at least

8:23

one major anti-imperialist protest in which

8:25

Indian community leaders were demanding an

8:27

official Indian standard time instead of

8:29

having to follow Greenwich mean time,

8:31

which is like what the British

8:34

were sort of trying to make

8:36

everyone be on like one time

8:38

zone and it's like this is

8:40

a totally different part of the

8:42

world. Well yeah, like time was,

8:44

that must have been fucking hell.

8:46

Right, I'm sure it was wild

8:48

because it probably meant it was

8:51

like, you know, dark when you

8:53

were supposed to be doing some

8:55

form of work. And it's like,

8:57

why would we be doing this?

8:59

Yeah. I think it's a very

9:01

colonial mindset to be like, oh,

9:03

we could just change an entire

9:05

population's biological box. Like, that's fine

9:08

because we want this to be

9:10

the time of like the work

9:12

schedule. Right, and because we want

9:14

to have industry and we want

9:16

to colonize the these people in

9:18

this land. If we fast forward

9:20

to the hellscape we live in

9:22

now with our little pal Amazon,

9:25

etc. There's this really great paper

9:27

from Data and Society that's called

9:29

The Constant Boss, which I highly

9:31

recommend reading. It's by Aja Nguyen,

9:33

and it's basically like talking about

9:35

the ways that capitalism in this

9:37

moment and surveillance technology has made

9:39

it possible for large corporations to

9:42

basically take advantage of workers in

9:44

like new and horrible ways. You

9:46

know, there was a time where

9:48

you worked for a company and

9:50

the company saw you as an

9:52

asset and would sort of like

9:54

value you in a certain way.

9:56

Now, you know, like now the

9:58

idea is that you have quote

10:01

unquote freedom, but that freedom is

10:03

kind of a smoke screen for

10:05

being surveilled if you're if you're

10:07

like an Uber driver. You're like,

10:09

oh, wow, I am so free.

10:11

I can work any time I

10:13

want. But if you are being

10:15

surveilled constantly and told where you

10:18

need to go and what time

10:20

you need to be there and

10:22

how. Well, also if you're getting

10:24

paid so little that you just

10:26

have to be working constantly, then

10:28

it's like you technically get to

10:30

set your own schedule, but the

10:32

schedule is also just always working.

10:35

Absolutely. And I just feel like.

10:37

It feels very clear and palpable

10:39

to me, the ways that this

10:41

surveillance technology and this belief in

10:43

capitalism has sort of like degraded

10:45

our humanity. It really, what it

10:47

does is it says, like, you

10:49

are nothing but the sum of

10:52

your beep, you're not, you're not

10:54

a human being. Yeah, and I

10:56

think there is like this disconnect

10:58

between capitalist time and sort of

11:00

like actual human emotion and experience.

11:02

I was thinking about this concept

11:04

of queer time. The best time.

11:06

Yes, you know, superior time. We're

11:09

fans on this podcast. I think

11:11

that queer time is essentially just

11:13

a way of like naming this

11:15

idea that The ways that we

11:17

measure age and maturity are often

11:19

very based on these sort of

11:21

like standard life events and life

11:23

timelines that can look really different

11:26

for queer people. For example, if

11:28

you don't come out by the

11:30

typical age that most people have

11:32

had their first relationship, you might

11:34

not be having your first relationship.

11:36

That might not happen until much

11:38

later in life than it might

11:40

for the average straight person. I

11:43

like that I've noticed a lot

11:45

of my queer friends have maybe

11:47

like slightly different visions of what

11:49

adulthood could look like than most

11:51

of my street friends. Like it

11:53

feels like there's just a little

11:55

bit more options of how things

11:57

might look that like it might

12:00

include kids, but it might not.

12:02

might include marriage or like one

12:04

monogamous long-term relationship but I might

12:06

not like those kinds of things

12:08

can be I think like on

12:10

average a little more flexible for

12:12

queer people. Well I think more

12:14

than on average I mean a

12:17

little bit more I think like

12:19

really significantly different. Like I think

12:21

that there's a like in some

12:23

ways this question and the idea

12:25

of queer time is an explosion

12:27

and reframing of time and it

12:29

means that you know there are

12:31

like age checkpoints that people grow

12:34

up carrying and they carry this

12:36

belief that you have to do

12:38

X by X age and X

12:40

by Y by Y age and

12:42

it's like Queer time means that

12:44

you could be coming out in

12:46

any number of ways or not,

12:48

but like you could be coming

12:51

out in any number of ways

12:53

and and having milestones and you

12:55

could have them out of order,

12:57

you could do one thing, then

12:59

another, you could go back, you

13:01

can like triple, you know, double

13:03

axle back into the previous. Right.

13:05

Or share them with different people.

13:08

I feel like I know more

13:10

queer people who maybe like live

13:12

with one partner but have a

13:14

child with a different partner. Like

13:16

those kinds of things where it's

13:18

not necessarily everything is. contained within

13:20

the same group of people. You

13:22

know, I pretty much always think

13:25

of queer time as like a

13:27

positive concept, but when we were

13:29

planning this episode, our production manager

13:31

Michael was talking about how they

13:33

were having this conversation with a

13:35

friend who was just sort of

13:37

talking about this concept of like

13:39

queer time and sort of adding

13:42

on this idea that like, you

13:44

know, for many queer and especially

13:46

trans people, like our life expectancies

13:48

can actually be a little shorter.

13:50

So this friend was sort of

13:52

saying like, well, queer time feels

13:54

like you need to do things

13:56

sort of faster or like more

13:59

because like one regular is like

14:01

five gay years. And Michael was

14:03

like I kind of get that

14:05

but also like we're not dogs.

14:07

Like I don't like the idea

14:09

of like oh like we're aging

14:11

like five times faster than straight

14:13

people. Even if it's true I

14:16

just feel like you know so

14:18

there's that little bit of like

14:20

tension there for me of like

14:22

this is also could could be

14:24

limiting ourselves in a way we

14:26

don't need to if we like

14:28

get too attached to this concept.

14:30

Well, and also, like, that, that

14:32

sort of thought process feels like

14:35

it comes from a sort of

14:37

scarcity mindset where your time is

14:39

not infinite, it is counted, and

14:41

you have to do everything because

14:43

you have this sort of desperation.

14:45

And my genuine hope is that

14:47

the more that the queers sort

14:49

of, like, take up space, the

14:52

less that scarcity will play a

14:54

role, but it definitely, you know,

14:56

historically, of course, that was, there's

14:58

like an entire generation of people

15:00

for whom like that was true,

15:02

you know, like probably even more

15:04

than one year versus five years,

15:06

it was probably even faster than

15:09

that. So it's good to remember

15:11

that it's not necessarily like just

15:13

a beautiful reframing even though that's

15:15

what we think it is. Well

15:17

it's like a beautiful reframing that

15:19

comes out of oppression and like

15:21

not being able to fit into

15:23

the world as it exists to

15:26

some degree. Well and also like

15:28

if you are let's say a

15:30

child or a teenager who is

15:32

queer and is not being seen

15:34

or valued or cherished for who

15:36

you know you are that existence

15:38

takes a toll like it's very

15:40

hard to live that kind of

15:43

queer time you know what I

15:45

mean if everyone around you is

15:47

not sort of allowing you to

15:49

be your full self. I would

15:51

say that a year probably feels

15:53

like five years or a month

15:55

feels like a year. you know?

15:57

For sure. One thing I wanted

16:00

to say before we move on

16:02

is like, queer people are not

16:04

the only people who end up

16:06

participating in queer time. Like, absolutely.

16:08

Like there are so many cis

16:10

purportedly straight people who are like

16:12

finding ways to queer their own

16:14

time. For example, like co-parenting after

16:17

divorce and like blended families. Well,

16:19

so I guess I feel like

16:21

basically what we're talking about here

16:23

is this idea that there's, you

16:25

know, you know, sort of, you

16:27

know, sort of, capitalist time, the

16:29

time of the trains, the time

16:31

that shows up on our phone

16:34

screens when we look at it,

16:36

like this external sort of sense

16:38

of time that comes from outside

16:40

of us. And then there are

16:42

these senses of time that come

16:44

more from like our own personal

16:46

needs and our relationships with other

16:48

people. I think like queer time

16:51

is one example of that, but

16:53

there are also so many other

16:55

examples of ways that this can

16:57

show up. And Siona had some

16:59

really interesting thoughts about this. So

17:01

Siona, what's like coming up for

17:03

you in thinking about alternatives to

17:05

capitalist time? Yeah, so I'm really

17:08

excited about this question because years

17:10

and years ago I was researching

17:12

the relationship between people's mental health

17:14

and how we view time and

17:16

certain mental health crises is or

17:18

how time can be something that

17:20

is really like directly impacted by

17:22

mental health. And in that research

17:25

I came across this thing called

17:27

dream time which is a reference

17:29

to indigenous Australian beliefs and practices

17:31

that the world was created in

17:33

nonlinear format. because of this belief,

17:35

because of this practice, a lot

17:37

of indigenous Australians, also known as

17:39

Aboriginals, don't view time as linear

17:42

to this day. So even through

17:44

the process of colonization and Australia

17:46

is broadly considered part of the

17:48

Western world, a lot of indigenous

17:50

folks there just don't view time

17:52

as something as like past present

17:54

future. And the reason I found

17:56

this fascinating is because one of

17:59

the tools some were using

18:01

was trying to find a way to apply

18:03

dream time to indigenous communities to like create

18:05

better mental health outcomes for these communities specifically.

18:07

And just in terms of even me as

18:09

someone who's born and raised in the US

18:11

but does come from like an African family

18:13

and just I'm black in America and time

18:15

does not work the same between like white

18:17

spaces and non-white spaces. when I moved back

18:19

to the US after being in Brazil for

18:21

a couple years, I was like 45 minutes

18:23

late to every single social engagement. I mean

18:25

that. But you're like, I'm on time, like

18:28

this is on time for me. Exactly, exactly.

18:30

And also like, I wouldn't, okay. I don't

18:32

want to be in the first 15 minutes

18:34

of a party, it's always awkward. Yeah, definitely.

18:36

And also, you know, like going back to

18:38

this idea of the question, this is delicious.

18:40

Go ahead, leave time. Go to your commune

18:42

where you're off the grid and out of

18:44

time because time is fake is what we're,

18:46

I think I've discovered here. I mean it

18:48

is, I feel like it's interesting to think

18:50

about how this could come up in a

18:52

time-free space. Like if you're like, meet me

18:54

at noon when the sun is directly overhead,

18:57

but then like one person is 15 minutes

18:59

late or whatever, like you know, as late

19:01

as feels correct to them, sort of like

19:03

you need like a different factor to triangulate

19:05

if you don't have the clock. that we're

19:07

all agreeing on, it might be like a

19:09

physical space or perhaps some sort of positioning

19:11

of the sun or other like natural factors

19:13

if you're familiar with how to do that,

19:15

which I'm not really. Well, I bet you'll

19:17

get really good at that. I'm sure you

19:19

will. I bet you're going to get really

19:21

much better at like checking in with your

19:23

the sky and your body and you'll have

19:26

a sense of time that's different. reminds

19:28

me of the people

19:30

who I think are

19:32

really good about letting

19:34

go of time letting

19:36

older folks who sit

19:38

on porches sit yeah, they

19:40

just They just just sit

19:42

there. They talk where

19:44

know where they are it's

19:46

just it's because lack

19:48

of having a time

19:50

more free time. So they really people

19:52

more free time in

19:54

so they really do

19:57

just roam so if

19:59

you're in a it because

20:01

end up doing it people

20:03

do it all the

20:05

time when they're older, older,

20:07

but that's what this

20:09

reminds me of People just

20:11

on the porches. I love that.

20:13

That's who I who I

20:15

aspire to be that. Well, I

20:17

I feel like what

20:19

we're really saying here

20:21

to this question asker is like, to

20:23

the the and if

20:26

you don't like it

20:28

you can move like it,

20:30

you know Like if

20:32

it's something you're considering

20:34

that feels like a

20:36

good move for you that

20:38

not just do it

20:40

and see what it's

20:42

like and if you

20:44

hate it can leave

20:46

it's like? percent you hate it, you

20:48

can leave. I that idea

20:50

and also and me a

20:52

postcard, you know, please

20:54

know. That's

21:01

it for this week's advice coming up, we

21:03

up we gave ourselves a call best

21:05

version best version of the future that

21:07

we could find that that we could

21:09

ask them What it's like there there.

21:11

stick around for that that the break

21:36

Hello? Hello? Hello? One second. You're cutting

21:39

out a little bit. I think the

21:41

the past is

21:43

not so good the past

21:45

is not so good. Hello? It may

21:48

be frozen. Oh, hey. Oh my

21:50

There we go. Wow.

21:52

Wow. This is

21:55

crazy crazy. Very crazy. hello to the

21:57

future. To the future, so wild. Hello,

21:59

future Julia. Hello. We have so many

22:02

questions for y'all, but I wanted to

22:04

start with just big picture. What is

22:06

the future like? And especially if you

22:08

could tell me what it sounds like,

22:11

what it smells like, like what would

22:13

I experience if I could go there.

22:15

The future sounds like people coming together.

22:18

Like you know when you walk up

22:20

to a park on a snowy day

22:22

and people are sledding and you can

22:24

hear like laughter and rough housing and

22:27

like snowball fights and screaming in a

22:29

good way. The future sounds like that

22:31

because most urban centers decided to deprioritize

22:34

cars. And, you know, cars can go

22:36

where they need to go on highways,

22:38

but most surface level streets are left

22:41

for pedestrians bikes, wheelchairs, strollers, skateboards. Yeah,

22:43

and on that note, honestly, the future

22:45

is really green. Like, I can find

22:47

greenery everywhere in any city these days.

22:50

And it's not the way it used

22:52

to be where only certain places got

22:54

greenery. They could afford it. Greenery is

22:57

in every part of every city. Wow.

22:59

Like, it's understood that access to plants

23:01

and gardens and the good green things

23:04

make your brain and soul happy. And

23:06

that's the right. and also I love

23:08

skyscrapers I love looking up at them

23:10

I love looking down from them but

23:13

a few years ago most cities started

23:15

to ban those crazy tall buildings so

23:17

they aren't just blocking neighborhoods of sun

23:20

I love that well I have a

23:22

question are there still Tesla trucks boo

23:24

okay so I can take this one

23:27

there are still a few Tesla cars

23:29

on the road unfortunately we haven't like

23:31

totally made them illegal But to be

23:33

honest, most of them don't work anymore.

23:36

I mean, they never worked that well

23:38

in the first place. But in my

23:40

neighborhood, there's this park where a Tesla

23:43

truck died nearby. So a bunch of

23:45

people just like dragged it next to

23:47

the park and filled it with seeds

23:50

and watered it. And now it's because

23:52

of like this community herb garden, you

23:54

can just sort of like take what

23:56

you need and people plant things there.

23:59

It's like a little community greenhouse, which

24:01

is really great. What do you think

24:03

would most surprise us about the future?

24:06

So the whole massive U.S. prison and

24:08

industry complex, it doesn't exist anymore. It's

24:10

really rare for people to serve time

24:13

because these days we have a genuine

24:15

fair equitable judicial system, not a system

24:17

where most people serve time just because

24:19

they sign a plea deal because they

24:22

can afford a lawyer. Yeah, I definitely

24:24

think that the ways like policing and

24:26

prisons and borders have changed is one

24:29

of the biggest things that I wasn't

24:31

ever sure if we would see and

24:33

I was really excited and relieved that

24:36

we finally saw a UN ban on

24:38

AI assisted weapons technology and facial recognition

24:40

and fingerprinting. So all of these systems

24:42

that were used to mostly surveil and

24:45

control people don't really exist in the

24:47

same way anymore. And there are so

24:49

many climate migrants now that borders just

24:52

need to be more flexible and porous.

24:54

It's sort of led to a shift

24:56

in how a lot of people think

24:59

about immigration, which while I don't think

25:01

we're perfectly there yet, we're on the

25:03

right track. And that is definitely a

25:05

surprise, a nice surprise to me. I'm

25:08

curious, are there any kinds of technology

25:10

that we needed to like expand on

25:12

to get to this future? Well, if

25:15

anything, technology creation has slowed down a

25:17

lot in order to thoughtfully incorporate people

25:19

into the technology we already have and

25:22

to make sure millions of people aren't

25:24

left behind in the pursuit of dollars.

25:26

But we expanded things like public transportation

25:28

in the past few decades, so it's

25:31

not stigmatized, it's more accessible, and some

25:33

technology has been incorporated in our lives,

25:35

and there are better ways to treat

25:38

things like sickle cell. and is more

25:40

affirming gender care. And the world has

25:42

started to make sure tech is more

25:44

accessible for folks who have disabilities, instead

25:47

of treating the disability. the people who

25:49

have them as a problem. Also, we've

25:51

somehow managed to make the hair braiding

25:54

experience a smooth two hours instead of

25:56

a solid seven, eight hours without replacing

25:58

any human job. So I mean, really,

26:01

I'm having a great time on this

26:03

side. Wow, that sounds amazing. One of

26:05

my favorite parts of this time we

26:07

live in is that a lot of

26:10

human jobs have gotten easier because we're

26:12

able to use tools in ways that

26:14

reduce the amount of work and labor

26:17

that humans have to do instead of

26:19

having more tools and then that just

26:21

you get assigned more work and there's

26:24

always like more work more profit like

26:26

people are able to stop working and

26:28

that's great okay everybody what is your

26:30

favorite part of the future okay so

26:33

my favorite part of the future is

26:35

definitely that health care is free at

26:37

the point of service now in almost

26:40

every country in the world there is

26:42

universal health care and surgeries are a

26:44

lot easier That includes things like laser

26:47

eye repair, sinus repair surgery, different forms

26:49

of top surgery, artificial womb implantation, things

26:51

like this that used to take a

26:53

really long time to do have gotten

26:56

a lot easier. There are obviously still

26:58

a lot of medical procedures that are

27:00

difficult. Brain surgery, nerve-related, like spine surgeries

27:03

are still really complicated, but we are

27:05

making progress there too in making these

27:07

things easier and also affordable for people

27:10

to be able to get. My favorite

27:12

part of the future is that I

27:14

got to see my kid grow up

27:16

in a world that feels a lot

27:19

closer to one that I believe in.

27:21

I feel like there were so many

27:23

things that I was anxious about and

27:26

things were Honestly not going great in

27:28

the 2020s, you know, I was worried

27:30

that my family would be legislated out

27:33

of existence and that unchecked greed would

27:35

destroy the earth But the world didn't

27:37

get quite as dark as my anxiety

27:39

said it would and you know, my

27:42

kid is thriving in a world that's

27:44

still here and still green,

27:46

So so I feel

27:49

really, and I I like

27:51

I I have a

27:53

lot more time

27:56

to enjoy that. So I'm,

27:58

I'm actually, I'm I'm pretty

28:00

happy. slower and that's my

28:02

is generally slower, the

28:05

and that's my favorite

28:07

part of the

28:09

future. We Life is

28:12

slower. We aren't in a

28:14

constant stream of technology that people were

28:16

back in the day, and that

28:18

fear of being replaced by robots, a

28:20

it's like a bad horror story, or

28:22

like a myth, kind of like theory.

28:24

There's There's a a fundamental understanding among

28:26

enough people, not everyone, not everyone, but

28:29

enough that our faith are deeply interlinked and

28:31

most of the world the world enrich a

28:33

few a few isn't just morally shitty it's

28:35

just fundamentally a waste of our time.

28:37

Also Also, countries of the much of the

28:39

so South were forced to pay forced to pay

28:41

back a significant amount of money

28:43

for centuries of harm, and it turns

28:45

out we don't need to drain

28:47

other regions of the world the have

28:50

a good to life in the life in

28:52

other parts of the so the so-called North. Well,

28:54

thanks y 'all for journeying through time

28:56

and space to join us here

28:58

today. today. It's really exciting to hear

29:00

what things could be like in the

29:02

future the that you made

29:04

it, it's and it's Yeah, they

29:06

Yeah, it. we made it.

29:09

You know, is a clearly look is a

29:11

lot to look forward to in

29:13

this version of the future. But

29:15

also I feel like there's so

29:17

much work that it's gonna take

29:19

to get there, right? right? here in

29:21

the present, and it's gonna be

29:23

a while before we actually get

29:25

there. get that's kind of what

29:27

this show is gonna be about. is

29:29

We really hope that the rest

29:31

of this season will help you

29:33

imagine what your favorite part of

29:35

the future could be. And how how

29:37

complicated it might be on the

29:39

way. way. Absolutely. Yeah. And what it what it

29:41

will take for us to get

29:44

there. there. Advice

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