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in the in in the media incest they attend

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incest nice dangle this maggots

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in front of males tend not to had

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into their solidarity on on the pumpkins

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because i do so much of a on the right essay by going

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to make a note to return at least

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two the bikes and stuff is not the work stuff before

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the end of before they had the freezer you and it is

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only because i'm interested i'm happy to talk about

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everything except being them betty

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suggests i can understand why is

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it as the net was breathtaking

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all had to leave breaths leave little faster

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they dealt with new zealand to zealand

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then india you say

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you're happy to read in a which is true and are

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you say gossip columnists many moons ago i was

1:37

quite nice one you wouldn't know are you have

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we wouldn't have a to me but you are and

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then of his show business editor the daily express

1:44

and you are in that category

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home

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frame us

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british person hum of

1:52

who is who is newsworthy

1:54

almost anything you do becomes newsworthy

1:57

it is a little bit lighter yeah it

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must be above

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yes it is is more exists

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visited the greatest thing that ever happened

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to me was twitter right and

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i didn't realize what a gift from

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god it was into them as saw him to stephen

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fry and , said two

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things to me he says you gotta get on twitter

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twitter two reasons if you want to publicize

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something you don't have to go through the through

2:22

and do a long interview in which

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they explains the readers was an unsatisfactory

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human being you are and then mentioned

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say paragraphs and the and that is on a tv

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show coming tv here and

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then the other and i've forgotten that

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that would be the quid pro quo and you did did you

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mean you know exactly backwards incoming for was

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on incomes own own because i i'm in i'm

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not very frightened anymore i was

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so many as i was frightened

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as everyone else who the british press because

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they had completely unscrupulous

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aids is no fundamental

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of decency the easy to reach

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decency and sort of touch

3:00

my hand with their

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of cynical my are sunni militias

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is necessary but i

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think people realize know they don't realize

3:10

how bad we are minor went on the news

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nice and told emily

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mate listen the

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we had been bottom of this

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poll european protesting poll

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they go to every country

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in europe as a oscar thousand

3:27

people what is your trust in printed

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media and we have mean molson

3:31

for something like ten fifteen

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years except for one yeah daves

3:36

when we were last but one slip

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joy be on so blinded a slice improved

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with spit people don't realize

3:43

how awful up a bizarre am and

3:46

i go on saying so but i do

3:48

because the second reason is saving

3:50

your the his that is say a

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nasty to me i soon so

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tall awesome i

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mean when numb

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here

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morgan said to me when

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you when you go to be easy

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say when say when be funny again caesar's

4:06

been a long time i said when

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a when he returns it is we the lifestyle

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for such a once you've done that for somebody

4:13

once they are both

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careful next time on com uma sites

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as i can strike back his kind of totally

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disused all as soon as i used

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to have all the horrible things i server

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a gas i mean

4:26

traditionally people are supposed to claim

4:28

that they never read the crate so

4:30

they never allow this stuff to touch them

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that to six skins i never believe

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anyone know i think your fc right it's

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own for ten spins when people a nasty

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about his i , see there are many

4:42

people are married the dalai lama

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at the abundance of he once again i

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have you ever be what i want to the delilah

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have any idea i have interviewed the ballot

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disallowed disallowed i tell

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you his dot used to be interrupted up

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to begin at the beginning i i'd say it's

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it's odds because what are

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the same that comes up coil on on

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the series is is how near

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the child is to the surface of the adults

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her how that submissive and

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and childlike glee ,

5:13

and saying this is is still present

5:15

in the adults and your fascinating

5:18

man because clearly that senses

5:20

miss chief and childlike pleasure and sings

5:22

as remain very near the surface where this

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is or incest you mentioned that were when i

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was writing his books with robin skinner

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it was a remarkable remarkable

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he said that the sort of three components

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top personality those the wise

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man or woman who comes along

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not very often and

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then often functional adult

5:43

gets everything done and pays the bills

5:45

is even a man's of as of science

5:47

and then was a child on the child

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is part of us have a child

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like part of this is where

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all the wonder is is are all

5:56

the excitement of this discovery

5:59

and and finding you didn't know

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this in that this is actually the all that

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is is and i think what happens is

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people get older some of them start

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feeding they've got to pretend they know it all and

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they are the is is that

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yes they that they know it all and also

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that they need to be dignified and don't know what

6:19

the point of dignity as my wife

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and i have to suffers to abandon

6:23

it we were staying and raffles hotel

6:25

in singapore in january to get some

6:27

sun and them as of the stuff

6:30

love this is a never seen and eighty

6:32

two year old man's hiding behind

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a pillar in order to jump out as is worse

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than a few a few behalf southern

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and it is i would say child like

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brother and childish yes you have

6:43

all that range of human

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personality the disappears when

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you decide that year old and dignified

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and pompous for never or it's is ever going

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to happen now if it was if he were going to embrace

6:54

dignified pomposity i think you would advise

6:56

that city lazy would have done so already

6:58

spot and it's what's interesting is like

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everybody else my the you know my introduction

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to you will be through your then

7:05

so seminal rolls when

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, up party path because you're very tall

7:09

and particles you played older than you are

7:12

a not someone who i immediately have

7:14

i sense of what you would have been like as been like

7:17

as an actual to i think

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out slightly uncomfortable so

7:21

word because i was so tall i

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was six so when i was

7:25

twelve cost and taller

7:27

than any other monsters was didn't

7:29

help finance by the time the time

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measured some i call uniform

7:34

these to play soldiers monday afternoon

7:36

i was fourteen and a half and

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i have a six foot four and a half and of

7:40

those people not for a

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think eroded the now so they sort of

7:44

expect some all grown , recent

7:47

months and when he urged teenage

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a very frequently one assays into

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the background huge l and it was very hard

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to do it it and also

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during the war is , born

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in the second the

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war era it makes a very good joke

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is on my sony born babies

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were , am a we we

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traveled endlessly so when i finally

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got to school when i was eight i'd been in

8:12

about a doll houses and know of

8:14

very friends of my age because we kept

8:16

moving moving i think i was

8:18

quite socially has socially in

8:21

add depth to you're not just a bit

8:23

clumsy and aside wasn't for aside blight

8:27

and i was sort of as a bit odd which is

8:29

true i was not the normals in

8:31

them and nine year old but then

8:34

i discovered i could make people laugh

8:36

and once you make the once except to

8:39

so i wasn't that and then my my

8:41

offered this was women certainly

8:44

went on until i was in my late thirties

8:46

and was absolutely hopeless

8:49

with some figure head or how did you

8:51

discover you to my people of this would be a prep school

8:53

and it is we're sassy same seats oh yeah apparently

8:56

school that little prep school where i come

8:58

from rising who is sixty pounds of term

9:00

and the teachers as still the

9:02

ones i think of was huge affection

9:05

much of than public schools ah

9:07

i'm sorry what was the question how

9:09

did you discover you could make people laugh member

9:12

making the i remember was the first

9:14

thing i did there was a teacher i a bit

9:17

to explosive am before

9:19

he arrived i did a sort of weather

9:21

forecast saw costs

9:23

see what the weather was gonna be like when he got

9:25

in the room was quite seven cents and

9:27

precocious sanda and

9:29

i've i've listened to a lot of radio

9:32

commentator alone and fairly awful

9:34

but still a virus and be

9:36

dames you not heard i was always kind

9:39

of not been and them but once when

9:41

i was second i got hold

9:43

of a note of his started trying

9:45

to write a script or must have been about

9:48

ten assists that were just signs

9:50

were about one i got on the christian i'd

9:53

i'd discovered one have used to be given a

9:55

little book every time

9:57

a little sloppy covered bookcase

10:00

and we adam and everything all the information

10:02

was in the a nice to write a whole new jugs

10:06

you , know glad i was

10:08

born in france why i can't speak

10:10

french sooner french a

10:12

whole host of sweat is a comment on

10:14

is about fully come from limos homeless

10:16

wizard of oz know or doesn't set your dad's

10:18

dates of birth on on on your

10:20

bike graphical details and he was essentially

10:23

bemused insufficient

10:25

a late victorian your father a

10:27

puppy was born in exiting the first world war

10:29

guess so korea is pie

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i'd say was a late sir edward

10:34

it okay for any born eighty ninety

10:36

three for was a farm so home no

10:39

no no mom was to or edgy

10:42

and depressed and angry dad

10:45

always had a says you move it it was more

10:47

of a witty sense of humor you

10:49

know i remember we were watching

10:51

a particularly in lane

10:53

dance routine ones in at the end

10:55

of it he turned man he said i don't think

10:57

this will replace entertainment since

11:00

i see if there's sort of say well

11:02

, mountains mountains

11:04

assess very black sensitive really

11:07

quite extraordinary discovered it by accident

11:10

is she was depressed and when i used to call

11:12

rise call it

11:14

was difficult position was it was tell me

11:16

i'm miserable she was sooner than than one

11:19

day to settle on stories face shot

11:21

i i said to her well as if you'll

11:23

see this way next week so

11:25

she was talking about all the resources and want

11:27

to go on living to i said i know a little

11:29

man and little i'm an eye to

11:32

give him a call if you like better if you

11:34

like it easy come like until easy and

11:37

the was stuff's

11:39

asked you for would love

11:41

to and i found that was a way

11:43

of getting around it's isn't he was

11:46

a bit depressed week after i'd say shall

11:48

i call this a man and sold them all know

11:50

she said none none of us everybody on

11:52

friday so but

11:54

i think it was think think it always

11:56

had a slightly place or mine

11:58

nes the i was always

12:01

looking for the exception to the rule

12:03

if you see what i mean or wondering

12:05

whether that was really to

12:08

disappear the i had that sort of curiosity

12:10

which i think's leads you into

12:12

play and as that little books

12:15

of my creative victims all about

12:17

play because if

12:19

you some plays could be creative is you

12:21

can't play you can't be created stevenage

12:24

you got the best logical mind

12:27

, don't mind in the world at his home

12:29

play you never come up with anything really

12:31

original his imagination yes

12:34

but imaginations free by best serious

12:36

somebody a psychiatrist one says we when

12:38

you're angry you have a resource if

12:41

you're envious you're have envious thoughts as you

12:43

said as have receipts know you

12:45

have to do is to get in into but

12:47

playful mood and you become

12:49

place on the that's for the humorous

12:51

we you a good student

12:53

yes i was were

12:57

they but i had a very particular it takes

13:00

on the the school

13:02

system at that time which is it seems

13:04

to me and even more

13:07

so laser on this has been

13:09

designed teach you how to work

13:11

hard at things you weren't interested

13:14

weren't interested you see what i meant

13:16

was and when i got into cambridge

13:18

on science and i had to do till

13:20

two years because ,

13:22

couldn't get in straight away they discover the

13:25

national service mind and i

13:27

realized that the other people coming out to

13:29

cambridge to do science

13:31

would actually be interested in it

13:34

it as or able to

13:36

summon i'm scared verses

13:38

so i switched to the law is be

13:41

they were it seem to be about

13:44

slogging away as saying

13:46

as a learning

13:48

to have the willpower to work

13:50

at this or that you weren't slices

13:52

but interest isn't as the polar opposites of

13:54

playfulness yeah the you had

13:56

this or my sis split personality

13:59

did you are you at your head down and oh

14:01

no it was his i hope this is wonderful

14:03

to bail possess as as a force

14:05

yourself to to work harder things

14:07

like it's cambridge i used to

14:10

rest to sit down the morning with the books

14:12

on contracts and as i read to

14:15

ten pages in the course of the morning

14:18

i'd done a good day's work is us i was reading

14:20

some paragraph three or four times

14:23

before i understood the way for the penny tonight

14:25

to do that but these are knew how to sort of stick

14:28

is it okay and i think it's useful nice

14:30

roms is what i notice was some of the other races

14:33

they didn't stick sketches

14:35

sometimes it sometimes

14:37

, slows james's other times

14:39

it doesn't and when it doesn't you

14:42

just have to stick his isn't that was one of the province

14:44

of beauty tips pete was so effortlessly

14:47

bring bring miller

14:49

one said east and source off by

14:51

the by and i said

14:53

even want five minutes from funny material or

14:55

you need is a tape

14:57

recorder and five minutes

14:59

as peaceful as christian do five

15:01

years straight off they would all be wonderful the

15:04

when laser on it wasn't coming he

15:06

wasn't so good at sitting there and just

15:08

worse he added sometimes you just

15:10

have to was have it raining

15:13

terms of treated to date

15:15

always get came the whole time needed know

15:17

how this

15:19

it's tacky vote was different clarify

15:21

this know split personality it's also the ability

15:23

to apply yourself actually then became

15:26

married to the playfulness announce aims

15:28

and however i did a show in chicago

15:32

anna anna was a guy reading pounds

15:35

and and we used together after

15:38

together show

15:39

the he red viper when

15:41

he says is very odd almost complete

15:44

and balance between logic and creativity

15:48

that i think there's we were

15:50

able to take the one bird chapman's

15:52

around to come up with wild

15:55

ideas but ideas then new houses

15:57

structure them to get the best oh so

15:59

would you be quiet strict with the

16:01

others them would you be the one that well we disagreed

16:03

about i always thought terry jones who came

16:06

up was wonderful ideas

16:08

wonderful ideas but he never seem

16:10

to care very much about

16:12

the dialogue and some of the very best stuff

16:14

we did were his ideas

16:16

was gray and i sort of rerouted to bed

16:19

or a rebel as well as

16:21

you with monty monty and timber [unk] br

16:24

br br basis for yorkshireman and

16:27

i'm a graham chapman and i structured

16:29

a better than they had okay because

16:32

if you're becoming absurd you

16:34

must never go back into less

16:36

upset the line must always

16:38

go up what's he was always go from of

16:40

a to more of a to more of said

16:42

and he is so if you if you drop

16:45

back into less upset it rec center since

16:47

moments of he wants momentum and so as

16:49

a the has to be that kind of amount

16:51

of it's fascinating to hear you tonight

16:53

is what would pizza cook think about the

16:56

almost forensic detail

16:58

that

16:59

bring her

17:00

they wouldn't need it was a he

17:02

says he's made it but

17:05

at the same time the was

17:09

magnificent in sketches

17:11

yes but i don't think he ever

17:13

wrote and the same school lane my

17:15

you're probably right that was top class

17:17

saline but the what is it i don't mean to which

17:20

but as of yes that was very

17:22

good but i don't see he was so much

17:24

interested in the longer form

17:26

of it seems to me the most people i know

17:28

like woody allen be sod off

17:31

doing sketches and then you

17:33

want to move to a longer and longer foam

17:35

you finish up during ninety minutes

17:37

or one hundred minutes but you have to pass

17:39

almost through said tom says yes from

17:42

soon as raising them it's of a chinese

17:44

as a half an hour some and a half an hour

17:46

as much easier in comedy because uses

17:48

get madder and madder and madder madness

17:51

is who try and do that for ninety minutes

17:53

you gotta stop it's almost

17:56

physiological you have to give orders

17:58

it's us to come down of it which

18:00

is right romantic comedy was so well

18:02

because you can be very funny and then using

18:04

go into a different type of mood

18:07

disorder is a bad as a comedy

18:09

were as as your own needed somebody can see solstice

18:11

is boom boom boom boom boom and as a for keep

18:14

it coming saturday of a size saw the

18:16

first time elevator first so much

18:18

as couldn't have something to bring his efforts

18:20

we showed it to an audience and

18:23

they absolutely loved

18:26

it and ten about sixty

18:28

minutes and and ,

18:30

a stop laughing for twenty minutes and then

18:32

they came off at the end so we resources

18:35

in a different order here and the

18:37

audience absolutely loved it

18:39

so fifty minutes and then

18:41

it phases away for twenty minutes

18:43

and him over the end of be mixed up

18:45

again and the same thing happened a lot

18:48

we realize resistance tom was

18:50

eats it doesn't really have a story

18:53

it doesn't have already have seen here wonder

18:55

what's gonna happen next season hold

18:57

them subsist them minutes and then

19:00

they get bored and it doesn't matter what orders

19:02

of material isn't so it's is that

19:04

assigned is story because the story

19:06

will take you pass the system minute mark

19:08

ah as his brain power as

19:10

long as my oldest is as donaji season

19:13

they say the revised for forty five

19:15

to fifty minutes and then have and risk as he brainware

19:17

be able to why not i

19:19

realize nasuwt brow yeah

19:21

stuff that i was taught at school which

19:24

i can do i take frequent

19:26

breaks them and it's quite extraordinary

19:29

i'll sit down the morning our work from

19:31

let's say ten

19:34

, o'clock eleven

19:36

thirty limb forty five della take

19:38

your brain and i go i and

19:40

i'm really feel refreshed

19:43

and it's always been sort of puritanical

19:46

say in this country that even sit

19:48

that was sorrow brow beating of brazenness

19:50

not the way consistent not designed for

19:52

what it is if you're an accountant as it is

19:54

you don't have to be crazy resistant to

19:56

workouts but if you wanna come up with

19:58

it as a news article

19:59

the race

20:02

i'm going to skip through your school days with as

20:04

you happy memories please allegedly defaced

20:07

the school grounds as a prank by painting

20:09

footprints to suggest that the statue of field marcello

20:12

haig's a goddamn from his friends

20:14

and gone to the toilet to , cricket

20:16

in the first letting i interrupt she says yes

20:18

yeah and when i got to k was

20:20

when i was thirteen i was told about

20:23

the prank as have been plex have

20:25

had a what happens is it was probably

20:28

paid but up and accountants

20:30

is a poker fan so i guess can stay

20:32

sat down to my name's is is more interesting

20:35

i was told that when i was thirteen since that's that's

20:37

since got excited i stuck on you'll see rates

20:40

by rates man's a big cricket and

20:42

the and the academics two things at

20:44

when average when moved his english why

20:47

i think you got a scholarship for english but you ended up

20:49

the no no i got mine a scholarship to

20:52

cover as ton in mass i was at

20:54

massey and of to my like the on i got a

20:56

scholarship to cambridge of said i

20:58

was never terribly good it at at at

21:00

sars cases of never to resist a

21:02

stasis it's for if i just my

21:04

history is awesome of philosophy and

21:06

science tests for not sizes so so

21:09

if i met you and your first week of cambridge

21:11

and i'll see what you wanted to be when you graduated

21:14

what would you said lawyer

21:16

to i find something better right so

21:18

dumb insisting to law of the i'd shift

21:20

is a law rented was prepared to do that

21:23

because my dad who could get a little

21:25

bit brand sometimes he said

21:27

we have a tradition of law and also name

21:29

of votes which meant as his father

21:31

been dismissed as close as

21:34

a spot i saw this oh wow

21:36

it's has was gonna have grandfather's it it

21:38

it tend to okay and then i did the

21:40

show chambers had gotten into show business

21:42

or that that there was nothing at clifton at mean when

21:44

did you saw started wanted to house entertainment's

21:47

but not to the point of thinking they could be occurring on

21:49

know occurring was from weston super

21:52

mare and bristol as bristol was more lies

21:54

a big yellow massive door says

21:56

she's just was not necessary

21:58

in this said

21:59

we will happen then i have in this is a

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it out of that the divine i wanted to get

22:04

us to some reason i wanted to get a gay

22:06

person i don't know why is my family's

22:08

of a the university of isis

22:11

, his gutsy the i wanted to go on and

22:13

learn more is set of becoming

22:15

i'm an accountant was gray starfish

22:18

or and todd on might ladies road signs

22:20

bristol and i was an option

22:22

was and we know that was almost as bad as said

22:24

some his his said to me when

22:26

i was got my oh levels he said my boy

22:29

since if you go into accountancy

22:31

now by the time he was twenty was

22:34

he will have of the letters a see

22:36

a asked to name and

22:39

the world is full world asked

22:42

my ribs and

22:44

work by the snow most

22:46

know i'd some miles such as and it

22:48

was very kind is kind didn't have much moments

22:51

that has no and mama three

22:54

or four thousand pounds but she's inherited

22:56

from his father it'd be the an auctioneer price

22:58

and that was split between five

23:00

children i'm but all that

23:02

money spent on my education for the last

23:05

for terrorists used to do a

23:07

, appreciated it i mean i appreciate is

23:10

a hugely edmonton from the time

23:12

i was a working

23:14

with frost i was giving them money

23:16

back back see what i mean yes

23:18

i do i need them a bit of money every week

23:20

but it's not so sure how many of the woke people

23:22

do that with their with still

23:24

figuring out the way that makes you on the generous

23:27

to the parents i i

23:29

i want to hear about the the kind of the

23:31

the flicking of the switch the the moment

23:33

when you realize the little of

23:36

the grease paint and all of the when you thought my goodness

23:38

me i this is what this want to do for the rest of my life

23:40

or something like that what it hasn't happened

23:42

yet still waiting it waiting for

23:45

the illumination for what what i i

23:47

never knew what i wanted to do and i went

23:49

off at strange tangents rossi went

23:51

one point rossi spent almost

23:54

on two separate occasions i

23:56

spent two years working

23:58

with robin skyn years on

24:00

the psychology books players he

24:03

knew so much that i wanted

24:05

to know right as i used

24:07

to pay him so he didn't have

24:09

to work so these of was on the books

24:11

as well i would work with was to try

24:14

said a day i would draw advice we got

24:16

we got bounced it and we were just

24:18

talk and talk until can talk so it

24:20

was like the best seminars you could ever have

24:22

split it wasn't brought in no money

24:25

at any point and it

24:27

was just because i wanted to hear sea

24:29

sick as you want to understand single mastodon

24:32

i don't understand him as a emin as i got

24:34

older you'll find his said emphasis on friday

24:37

and on is kind of guy you realize you understand

24:39

almost nothing and mainly with talk to

24:41

a few minutes ago other johnson

24:43

and trump i'm it's it's very hard

24:45

to understand that sub is saturday's

24:48

it is that it's all you know my every

24:50

plate or said that the beginnings of

24:52

wisdom is a realization of how little you

24:54

know i can take

24:56

a lifetime to realize how little yeah

25:00

because it all , i said there's there's

25:02

no sort of magical spotlight

25:05

comes on but but at cambridge something

25:07

shifted something happened to you but what happened

25:09

was i was there and i joined the footlights

25:12

club room for two or three reasons

25:14

one it was a hundred yards from my [unk] diggs

25:17

extraordinary coincidence a

25:19

second wasn't a the nicest bunch

25:21

of cambridge because they came from every costs

25:23

and every a discipline

25:26

and they all had all sense of humor said they were

25:28

stuck out and self important and self

25:30

got to know a lot of the lot of

25:33

very friendly with a brook taylor

25:35

and people like you know and chapman

25:37

i'm so the that was the reason

25:40

to be in there and then i started i had

25:42

to auditions i did a few things a then

25:44

a the first year a

25:46

suitable first for the i'm

25:49

a end of your show that they do for

25:51

their all the parents coming out but it may weaken

25:53

to weaken i was cause hopeless

25:56

and then a i yeah we all

25:58

arrive back and discover it'd be the [unk] we had

26:00

positions on the committee is everyone

26:02

the previous year left rise so

26:04

suddenly we were sort of a little more

26:06

active and new used to do a little

26:09

concert every month and

26:11

it was nice because everybody in the club

26:13

was getting up to do something may be eighty

26:15

people and and so it was

26:17

in everyone's interest to keep a friendly audience

26:20

and his heart of a friend the audience

26:23

and you got a chance chance to try

26:25

, out and i

26:28

can still remember some

26:30

of his are members members

26:32

says jones someone else

26:34

doing a sketch to to chelsea pensioners

26:36

and woman who says the other still

26:39

was a was a pills

26:42

said they gave us to read gave all

26:44

was to make his all

26:46

once a living violence in

26:49

oh yes i releases

26:51

you know i see their begin his work his

26:54

thought about the other that hadn't thought

26:56

as thought about a sixty years

26:59

ago and that people did sketches

27:01

phosphorus and at a price and frost

27:03

i'm on a to other v were doing very good stuff

27:05

is you got used to the idea of doing

27:07

a show and it seems strange that was

27:09

with a very friendly atmosphere was makes

27:12

the northern suburbs that les dawson

27:14

also tell me about well it's as

27:16

i said if they'd like to they that you

27:19

live

27:23

was there any inkling of being

27:25

then a destiny calling was or any know

27:27

did you have any idea of being in the presence

27:30

of

27:31

a remarkable generation of people over they

27:33

just i only people you knew yes to

27:35

some extent i mean i don't think

27:37

i realized how remarkable

27:39

for example us that was one moment

27:42

when the or that was what moments of that

27:44

was in sixty two he

27:47

three sixty two of my

27:49

flatmate same in same said i've heard

27:51

this very funny show on it for the

27:54

arts the other i got us to

27:56

have mattered have tickets and it was beyond

27:58

the friends tried i have

28:00

never seen that show so wanted

28:03

to be funny and wonderfully

28:05

sunny about important things you know those

28:07

dollars and never sir alan then

28:09

as is now perhaps best tehran as

28:11

peter cook and dudley moore and

28:13

kind of unbelievable and when

28:15

when asked as cities you have the sense of

28:17

disappointment and suddenly there would be i'm

28:20

jonathan miller piece of software your scripts

28:23

as the most glorious to as

28:25

i have spent my life a nice i think

28:27

at the end of that i thought to myself what

28:30

a wonderful wonderful experience

28:32

i get that sometimes in the cs oh that's

28:34

easy this is as good as it's yet but

28:37

i never really thought was any chance of my

28:39

going into it because it wouldn't have known how to start

28:42

soon change will have more we did during

28:44

i got into the moon the annual show

28:46

that second near where

28:49

, as direct super centers code trevor

28:51

nunn my of a happens and

28:53

i i , was

28:57

them and then the next

28:59

year ah who

29:02

i was more senior i did or did

29:05

some abrupt since good stuff during the year

29:07

including had caught skirts including evelyn of

29:09

and then we disease and asked then

29:11

about a week we did the show

29:14

went up to the footlights club

29:16

room and had a drink and there

29:18

was a manner in a suit young salads

29:20

or michael white zoom in his saying i

29:22

want to put yourself on in the west end and

29:24

we says it was and

29:28

he said i'm going to put it on the west and

29:30

sit to then two days

29:32

later is too nice people in suits

29:35

saying we're for the bbc would you

29:37

like a job at the v b c and i saw

29:40

well as human as to where whereas

29:43

guy you , you'll never

29:45

get a see i have to your name or she had

29:47

received it hasn't suffered a serious

29:49

than i suddenly realized why

29:51

not because it's i'd be in them lawyers

29:55

lawyers with a poem in those days you studied

29:58

you're noise people a bit of know

30:01

pupillage and summers ago pupillage

30:03

was it about the i was out of the of the desert

30:05

was more baristas drives you to get paid to

30:07

top as week right wow

30:09

was i get to exist on that even in nineteen

30:12

sixty three and the bbc

30:14

within a baby thirty so

30:16

, was a no brainer redlands you would truly

30:18

ambushed by the received him of resemble

30:21

you didn't have a a bit of vanity didn't think

30:23

occasionally when you were on stage got i'm rather good

30:25

as assuming keep on nov is no

30:27

real estate estate everyone

30:30

that when the reviews came out in london

30:32

they were all about bill

30:34

oddie you saying some very clever

30:36

parodies pop songs and him

30:38

brooke taylor bride or almost all

30:40

the reviews and i got mentioned

30:42

in a couple along with davis hatch and

30:45

but the nobody picked man personal thought

30:47

i was really funny was games have used

30:50

to sit the audience is it was thought he

30:52

left the of authority came into the show one

30:55

of them left but he used to sit the orders

30:57

to thought i was really funny or that search

30:59

of males but it never struck me i was

31:01

under same remarkable

31:03

when did he begin to thing you might be i'm

31:06

going to insist on an answer to this was just wondering

31:08

what moses

31:10

i think when i started

31:12

working with them but with brown

31:14

and tim and

31:17

marcy so i began to realize

31:19

as realize understood some things about

31:21

making people laugh i wow i'm sorry

31:23

i'll read i'll again era guys all

31:26

the reserves nineteen forty eight oh okay

31:28

because i was during the radio show on the side

31:30

but as was never that chino i'm so sorry

31:33

that again because it was for amazon

31:35

puns okay says nothing

31:37

wrong with upon butter in

31:39

a lot simpler bit boring isn't

31:42

this an and and also

31:44

know

31:45

of a predicts wasn't quite the right

31:47

word but not they're not possessed of the graft

31:49

that you

31:50

that that the album as an engineer

31:52

interest in every city all the best

31:54

jokes that number as to for

31:56

the arcelor old tons in our the

31:58

bezel out sometime

31:59

another not a doctor jay z for

32:02

the journalists because all they have to do is to

32:04

copy the wrote do that if he were doing

32:06

other kaiser healer they would have to explain

32:08

the situation and the characters

32:11

personalities and all that

32:13

complex stuff that goes into something

32:15

i'd full details yes but anybody can tell

32:17

upon as you saw as a maid soviet

32:19

day off label the best jokes

32:22

the fringes is totally ignorance is

32:24

is very old really

32:27

that would the writing though that's when he began to think

32:29

you might have a particular gifts as and then i'll

32:31

admit it was lovely i've met

32:33

have a seat i'm on ,

32:36

in love the goons has a daughter as a boy

32:38

or we all loved as good as good as was

32:40

a bible bible i

32:42

met him on the other day other the

32:44

next thing i knew i got a call would i write

32:47

some sketches for him and i wrote some sketches

32:49

on his the loveliest man other loveliest

32:51

that and he

32:53

recommended me to peter sellars so suddenly

32:56

i was going along to peter sellers

32:59

and we weren't three movies for him one

33:02

which i don't is very good don't magic

33:04

christian and , was one about

33:07

measure frame holidays and

33:10

there was another one way road saw

33:14

carlo ponzi who

33:17

, sophia

33:19

loren has been fries and he wanted

33:21

and he for fetuses the sophia loren

33:23

we wrote that and it was there

33:26

are a guy that and we had it it and never

33:28

heard anything that's because he had a disaster

33:31

with mastroianni rise cold

33:33

daffodils and another her know my

33:37

taxes , member we were sitting there

33:39

writing for him and we used to watch says

33:41

says program the

33:44

side thirty do not just to sit

33:46

with these people called playland

33:48

, and and

33:51

angelenos and we

33:53

don't them a bit to see it all worked

33:55

together for frosty this and for

33:57

rang about one then said so rings

34:00

there is every other may ritz

34:02

not yet so

34:05

, get back to see bird

34:07

eventually we said we were they recently

34:10

we decided to do something

34:12

together we spoke to very totes who

34:14

is marty sell those writing partner

34:16

needs a suffer the most

34:18

weird meeting

34:21

it as james we went in

34:23

as this guy was his license same

34:26

and he said i understand you guys would

34:29

, to do a series of we said we'd love to

34:31

mr mills my summers and

34:33

he said what do you propose duties we

34:37

hadn't discussed it a

34:40

, must be mass assisted are we started

34:43

say well we have understood somebody service jokes

34:45

and international amusing things intend

34:48

to make people laugh when he said whoop whoop

34:50

user's i have guest artists reserved

34:53

only everyone at

34:55

music recent breaths really sort

34:58

of bad music as and then he

35:00

looks insists

35:02

and i thought this is really embarrassing any

35:04

kind of shrugged and said are it's go

35:06

where makes us him from those two three

35:09

and if you think of that

35:11

happening allow ourselves and

35:14

it was because he knows that is the v

35:16

v c of races as a confidence

35:18

and all the people in charge

35:20

of departments had made

35:22

programs said twenty five thirty

35:24

years right the guy was the

35:26

floor manager on asus for

35:28

us from for finished up by directing

35:31

some of the best comedy is we ever did and

35:34

then the bbc i think john john

35:36

byrne which is when it all started the her

35:38

office decides as as

35:40

these fees and thought commissioning

35:43

editors and

35:45

a worse idea has never been have

35:47

we ever recover from air

35:50

five

35:51

in what was among doesn't work and i may come

35:54

from experience and some experience in

35:56

these are nice versatile as sad

35:58

as suddenly they're deciding what it's

36:01

a bit like predict seventh

36:03

you member i think it was oscar wilde is said

36:05

they're a bit my unix they

36:08

watch it every night they talked

36:10

with themselves that one of the strange thing

36:12

about physics is why is it the people

36:14

saying that someone who com die rates

36:17

can't rise

36:20

the

36:21

hard to forget he'll be

36:23

put in judgment ever take chances

36:26

you know this is madness is it is it

36:28

is madness

36:30

and now we reach the where

36:34

it into his own in the public domain now

36:36

isn't that you are now john cleese famous person

36:39

monty python kicks oh yes i think the great

36:41

how old were you then how old were you when you ceased

36:43

to be in any way anonymous

36:46

i think i

36:49

was recognized visit the beginning of

36:51

the forty eight show and right second series

36:53

i suddenly realized what a genius marty

36:56

was this and then i went and

36:58

did mostly writing for a time when i

37:00

saw i think it was on thought

37:02

he was on them the motive tyson

37:04

is this the that was a breakthrough

37:07

and agree with a small number painful noisy

37:09

simon used to be much easier in

37:11

this country because you got slightly

37:14

will say was very gently fried

37:16

wasn't a big shop or mirage

37:18

used to wake up on tuesday and new

37:21

famous and , much

37:23

harder to say purchase tickets stupid

37:25

people who is he thinks they should

37:27

make some important to

37:29

see if are set up a yes or due

37:31

to exit did you email and subjects

37:34

to suffer from across the odds

37:36

are if you enjoyed and i did zero meters it's

37:38

a valid ice i was always terrified

37:40

of being bad as that are that are is like

37:42

it's like anxiety it takes the

37:44

edge of everything in a serious

37:46

and i used to was harder than the others

37:49

a sullen my load was i agree

37:51

with that would i say was i was

37:53

most impulses or obsessional

37:55

about they were and i'd

37:58

never sell with my performance the

38:00

on camera were as funny as they were

38:03

two hours before and dress rehearsal over

38:05

there was more relaxed and funnier

38:08

so it was but was busy what was

38:10

nice with nice with and is a

38:12

one was that we will make each other

38:14

laugh we ready

38:17

saw we really thought

38:19

we were all funny was nice

38:21

and the read throughs could be wonderful some stores

38:23

test for your here in the t sketch

38:25

the first time i mean it's first

38:27

time i read out that she said michael lost

38:30

so much he some of his chair seen

38:32

anybody really do that a soup

38:35

terms of what is my london traps

38:37

get up resolving service resolving

38:40

we that went that was good and the and the season

38:42

was his kind of funny i

38:45

only saw that is recently use it

38:48

it wasn't we've sort that

38:51

we with zach seward pride

38:53

that we've was surprised

38:55

, says assist people around

38:58

i'm much better okay

39:00

what i mean i do the suppose i don't have

39:02

a movie with that wonderful retarded salt

39:04

lake competition was murdered quite

39:07

a modest bombs were no a

39:09

realistic well they

39:12

would have been easy to believe the hype solely

39:14

by the time you but i know hollywood video about a written

39:16

about formed of alone for you would be correct

39:19

america as well so as not oh no what

39:21

know that was our most muslim we'd ever it

39:23

never went out the merits of and others with

39:25

stop making the programs in england fry

39:27

it was a huge i grew up on live with only

39:29

would bow or the yes i was

39:31

i was a very goes mind you need to go

39:33

of course nobody is really nice

39:35

and it gives v huge pleasure is as

39:37

an enormous number of

39:40

, well educated americans

39:42

grew up at that time yes and

39:44

it was funny i was with my wife is

39:46

scots that wonderful says restaurant

39:48

one day is , size

39:50

last ten years you and there

39:53

was something going on we saw the been a burglary

39:55

but when we got up the end of a meal i suddenly

39:57

saw this huge number of bus

39:59

at people with suits or dot out

40:01

they were obviously together and

40:04

or soy ice i was leaving there

40:06

was i stood the one sides and let them cancer

40:09

and , us secretary of state

40:12

state was wanted average

40:14

as his wrists and mrs smith says

40:17

shows learned about

40:20

from friend all this security be provisions

40:23

is this how did you

40:25

make your choices after and

40:27

then how did you decide which things

40:29

to say yes to presumably for awhile and

40:32

fact possibly forever after that

40:34

the elements the of world is you are else

40:36

as i said no and then that the

40:38

truth is james hitler lot of time

40:41

you , things because you're asked

40:43

yes and you don't do that because you're

40:45

not honest but obviously

40:47

doesn't adamant choice which

40:49

comes in as you become more

40:52

confident the beginning you do everything

40:54

is your son of those terms of say

40:56

no i'm

40:59

for the ever so slowly i

41:02

eight months eight wanted to work with to

41:04

with tommy fuck is connie

41:06

was wonderful axis use

41:08

much better acts and i love was

41:11

he was also very sunny we always had

41:13

always great to next room laughing at stuff

41:16

and it was just lovely

41:18

they said what

41:21

did what he wanted to him i said let me told

41:23

my explicitly my advice sorry

41:26

i resigned to see what we want

41:28

resigned do and then we both stayed at and hotel

41:31

in tokyo or to stayed owner

41:33

was like i was the mountains of basil

41:35

fawlty and we range of basil gilbert

41:37

up and said realizes and a half us at

41:39

the hotel me said right there with to miss

41:41

minutes was no no

41:43

committees are miss am in was tragic

41:46

that committees tragedy now is

41:48

that is run by bureaucrats

41:50

who have no understanding

41:52

of the crazy principles

41:55

the mercurial nature the

41:57

with either having the idea you could something

41:59

hyper my look awful that's rather little

42:02

creativity of his versus is

42:04

everything is really creative

42:06

coast and the unconscious and

42:09

you can't control my used to work

42:11

with work with use his cricket is on

42:13

his it was a stick there are a

42:15

do and that's what they don't are just as

42:17

soon as always a conflicts

42:19

between the executives because

42:21

they want everything sia and

42:24

precise as system today

42:27

and the answers to all the researchers

42:29

is always delay decisions

42:31

as long as exam then or unrealistic

42:35

but why take why take before

42:37

you have to has of course the

42:39

right get your information him i get new ideas

42:41

but everybody wants to take a

42:44

decision to so how decisive

42:46

there

42:48

when fawlty towers

42:50

right

42:51

wines all

42:52

did you then you

42:55

didn't look around then in sync with this isn't that

42:57

good is just that everything else isn't very

42:59

did you know that was very special i

43:01

, that lane saying that have

43:03

dozens and was of i

43:05

got married a second time to

43:08

a woman that i am

43:12

the hugely founder of but she was

43:14

alcoholic , bipolar

43:16

right and that is not an easy

43:19

ride no avail society

43:21

find hard to remember what i did officer

43:23

of marriage marriage for

43:25

the very end of it fiscal wander came

43:27

over with sauce but it was a time

43:29

when things were so uncertain

43:32

you know i remember driving remember the

43:35

said repeatedly gotten as you

43:37

go that's cross months to get a road

43:39

by the do stuff out what

43:41

has she been drinking you

43:43

know you come out as it's alive

43:46

home new listeners a whole

43:49

to , as a reply is is

43:51

a smooth ride

43:54

on a resume was very bad

43:56

time clearly yeah

43:59

and also

43:59

i had my second daughter

44:02

than the one that i that , write

44:04

with all the time they're from

44:06

that wasn't alive since the damage

44:09

i just wanted to back up a little

44:11

bit them to the to the question

44:13

of whether or not you while you are creating

44:16

it with connie bays are

44:18

aware that fawlty towers is the

44:21

exceptional

44:22

we're he dude know i realize

44:24

that but the audience tells me but

44:27

be sober until you're actually doing it in front of

44:29

a book is just what i still using his number

44:31

of people come up to me now is very

44:34

touchy i'm saying not

44:36

only thank you for making me laugh which is

44:38

always a lovely say the say and

44:40

women say something saw a different guy

44:42

you say thank you for helping me saw

44:44

my sense of humor blimey really

44:46

sorry interesting business because proceed

44:48

in america of people who grew up in iowa

44:51

yeah they're hot when pots tyson

44:53

same was on a resume i have revelation

44:56

no way beyond what it was in england

44:58

is read already at the jews yes of

45:00

course

45:02

the

45:03

the performer now as well com sort

45:05

of so mean during

45:07

basil

45:09

the begin to think of yourself as a as

45:11

a first right performer as well as other

45:13

than a limited range as a lot

45:15

of this might buy comedy technique

45:17

is very good and

45:20

, i to act as i'm i'm very

45:22

good i did of shakespeare's you know that

45:24

know i probably nineteen eighty the

45:26

bbc of a period of four years

45:28

did old sachs fifth place or thirty seven

45:31

seven i did taming of the shrew i'm on the

45:33

best experience as i ever had

45:35

was john as a militarized the unwell

45:38

and it was as a sovereign stick

45:40

why haven't you done more than five and you don't

45:42

move what he did asked me at one point

45:44

if i do titus andronicus

45:46

for isn't and i never yeah costs

45:49

and i and and i never

45:51

heard i from providence

45:55

of wales as

45:57

hard to figure something out of the

46:00

lover do that is why do you do is horrible

46:02

for a shakespeare play what he

46:04

was his discoveries there is so months

46:07

in it that you have to deal

46:09

to discover his own was thrilling

46:11

when he signed the way to do

46:13

as you know you do a scene for two weeks

46:15

it doesn't work and then suddenly

46:18

you see how to do it is

46:20

, and scissors was hidden

46:22

in there there it completely changed

46:25

completely senses have my

46:27

say sunsets are to

46:29

say dull says

46:32

it then i got interested

46:34

in it but imposes only great of is done

46:37

radius of cool embassy over

46:42

of producing is in home leah

46:45

yes shudder i mean

46:47

i'll never forget that my you wouldn't just

46:50

extraordinary and i said to him as saw

46:52

it twice in three days and

46:54

, said to in in

46:56

are you signs in the energy

46:58

to do to and he said

47:01

he said his passing through is

47:03

coming from someone and his passing

47:06

through me tell without touching the size

47:09

and the really had this sense the was channeling

47:11

so while mack greenery

47:14

have an issue was he was great material

47:16

is genius between two and irritating

47:18

is matter how , your

47:20

mom and dad adjust or accept

47:23

your why i says same

47:25

month ever really really

47:28

offsets you know i mean they loved

47:30

i'm sorry i read as again right dad

47:34

the are you know , as he

47:37

doesn't get to okay

47:39

so he he he died just

47:41

before forty am he

47:44

was aware that people thought of as

47:46

very good and he was so proud of the

47:48

islamic mom was sort of didn't

47:51

want that didn't understand much

47:54

much know a member of the first series

47:56

of fawlty towers he said

47:58

to me oh thank goodness

47:59

you're lucky much better visit months

48:02

i was aging out with a makes us

48:05

mates , visits an audience it was so

48:07

upset value of vague reduces employed

48:09

know as korea and did you have did you

48:11

a sense as i mean i understand

48:13

now that before wanda came out your

48:15

life was private

48:18

and public of in the defining experiences

48:20

of of your life in your second marriage

48:22

would clearly

48:24

clearly private not public i wasn't eliza

48:27

neither that's right it became more public

48:29

it became more public but it was a slow

48:32

process rice and

48:34

, never really had any of my

48:37

friends give tips are taxes are paid

48:39

for those i just came from just group who wouldn't

48:41

have done that is enough for you must be

48:43

lonely you must

48:46

be lonely no i don't think on fire

48:48

still with mild friends is and

48:51

we very seldom talked about show business

48:53

you know we just talked about everything else like cricket

48:56

him so you've never had ambition

48:58

than in the in the conventional sense when

49:00

i have no somebody said to somebody

49:02

now if you were very hard at this point

49:05

about this point was it's you

49:07

are offered of thought they were pretty hard

49:09

you get alaska i was saying

49:11

since yeah

49:14

zoc you know i've sort of declined a peerage

49:16

tried i didn't know the hi i'm patty was years

49:19

of i didn't know was going on when petty aston

49:21

who might a dog is what

49:25

a loss anyway patty when he

49:27

resigned he said going on talked

49:30

bill rodgers in the house of lords and i went

49:32

wrong i don't know i was doing of i

49:34

suddenly realized view

49:36

auditioned for fear for each force

49:39

and then i was told that i'd have to be there

49:41

all the years votes sasha

49:43

, nowhere to be in london in the winter

49:47

business i'd say is how to think what

49:49

what's the point of these things of these

49:51

appear now i've been to pieces in a to conrad

49:54

black for some professor learned

49:56

criminal civil or all the all

49:58

the very rich

49:59

donors were semi now thing is

50:02

i wouldn't be much fun now those as a means

50:04

of mean via okay so that's a meaningless bobble

50:06

whereas the thrill you feel

50:09

when you are in front of an audience so when

50:11

you've got a big hits when you get a and tangible

50:13

rouge la in times of feels very

50:16

nice sweated wanted to come from then where

50:18

where did the

50:19

the it was male whizzing the the

50:21

lawyer escape lawyer

50:23

whose been trapped into marriage

50:25

or that time to the as to the of helmets

50:28

and then somebody comes along and releases

50:31

him as he was quite person i mean does this

50:33

feature that your homeowners who do you have

50:35

on your idea what it's like being english since

50:37

his isis is assisting some terrified

50:40

that you could be embarrassed

50:43

that sort of us so terrified

50:45

of embarrass other they don't do that was

50:47

very much for buyer for meyer

50:50

very personalized that stuff i don't

50:52

i didn't realize that as a did did people realize

50:54

out of the time i did say so none

50:57

at all because it is it had such an air

50:59

of a flight of fancy it's hard to imagine it being

51:01

torn from is not now you've explained

51:03

to my ah yes for tough i said you

51:05

use stuff like that but that's not all

51:07

of it of course not having

51:09

it started bridges by old

51:12

friend new direct to the first two

51:14

full details don't have davis told

51:16

me about a conflicts

51:18

involving a black pearl

51:21

and it's started my mind

51:23

her hand in me hand know that

51:25

was left was the locket price is

51:28

he would areas of course you saw it was some

51:30

the of course and is not a direct list

51:32

you start with that man inspires you

51:34

want something that's vaguely relates

51:36

to it's relates really narrow most

51:39

sort of up to the present day when i

51:41

have some much needed yeah we nearly that was just

51:43

about another eight minutes to get you over the line

51:45

with stress level as an anthem

51:47

that what i'm fascinated by fascinated the disparate strands

51:50

what they all have in common sense and

51:52

that's why i think i'll remember

51:54

most you talking about the the

51:56

grassed of genius the graft

51:59

of producing

51:59

something truly incredible a desert that

52:02

that i think there's a point and

52:04

be won't be surprised here as as it is a

52:06

point which anything really great

52:08

creatively as got a vm obsessional

52:11

for the right price and i think i don't

52:13

like that it's why i don't really

52:15

like being on movies purchasers so

52:18

obsession is that the rest of your

52:20

life stops of i

52:22

like to be a puzzle look at the news

52:24

in the morning and reserve bullshit

52:26

neither one i have to go to bed learning

52:28

lines of and get up in order mean i

52:30

don't like the disapprove moment as

52:33

, the same time i think the best job

52:35

in the world was easy diamond who

52:37

was busy wilders writer because

52:40

they used to write the script together and

52:42

a few write the script was director than he

52:44

does have to change or proceed to make you do

52:46

so so you can turn out

52:48

without having had to shave his

52:50

who was a for me to do a much the read

52:52

throughs as as hate that a big is he diamond

52:55

would be lovely and rise of the movies

52:57

if we do life of brian i

52:59

saints as i am

53:02

going to work with of man

53:04

who is very experience with crowds

53:06

fried moving people around on

53:08

the two of us will direct said that

53:11

if we do fish called wanda then

53:13

the as broadway produces

53:16

got a wife a who

53:19

who wanna on an olivier

53:21

so an choreography and

53:24

she'll take the whole thing over and john

53:27

do pray bless human rights or the music

53:29

will take all the music go right and

53:31

as i said to my was yesterday it's

53:33

will be of the season the seasons

53:35

the souls of see it certainly

53:37

can live without any sense response

53:39

visits out of the sense response said that the

53:42

to from stayed says that that

53:44

are in the pipeline and you'd you did

53:46

though the world now with your with your stand up

53:48

so the i go rather have their jerseys

53:50

regular money easy you know when the tos

53:53

going to start in at and is going to finish and

53:55

easier to guarantee what was the story

53:57

behind the beyond the reunion of the o two

53:59

behind the

53:59

some sort of all very simple

54:02

the , have always been catastrophic

54:05

the badly managed because none of us could

54:08

be bothered see this one is he should have hidden

54:10

accounts and thirty years years

54:13

we as account and episode of

54:15

seven one guy who really was

54:17

really pursues

54:20

a legal dispute

54:23

and we certainly sound we owed eight

54:26

hundred thousand pounds owed lawyers fees

54:29

and we both said narrative fees

54:31

had we both from cambridge use a lawyer who managed

54:34

clean some yes sir he

54:36

came along and he sir what he screws on

54:38

submissive what we do and he said

54:41

you do shows ago to recent was

54:43

is too fuchsia zero two and pay

54:46

the debt newnham for deposit money so

54:48

we got out of the very good or impresario

54:51

and eric is in never that he much to do

54:53

as he put the show to go to the saboteurs

54:56

job and that

54:58

was that when we did ten shows

55:00

the first from a sold out six season

55:03

tickets and forty two sisters

55:05

most people coming season tickets poland

55:08

of mexico it was a new store when i sent

55:10

you the beginning you're one of those people who everything

55:13

you do is newsworthy in the minds of the british media

55:15

about that was a major headline news story

55:17

the find that he was simply going back together

55:19

and going on stole yes absolutely because

55:21

we hadn't done and nothing really since

55:23

grade i do enjoy it

55:25

yes

55:27

attorney was a she's

55:29

a woman the show know it

55:31

was since

55:33

the word it was an occasion this

55:35

when people from far

55:37

and wide saves wide saves

55:39

of material that by and large that you

55:42

better than we did and

55:44

have a wonderful time and saying

55:46

to us making the laws and we would say to

55:48

them society as and there was a

55:50

ceiling of a section in

55:53

other brothers in the saturday night

55:55

i went out and

55:58

i have the first things they were with the

56:00

spanish flu needs to know what i i mean why

56:03

to clean a started sitting beside

56:06

me the his desk, and

56:16

, haven't said a word and

56:19

the people of the most positions in

56:21

the put you to in extra early

56:24

just in case i was about to speak

56:26

and it broke me up at in front

56:28

of 16,000 people, isis

56:30

to the for no discernible reason

56:32

or lovely such

56:36

a fetch us, incredible? right

56:38

was just one of the few days later i

56:40

just talked to neil

56:43

diamond and he he he was on

56:45

the audience saying three

56:47

caroline ever see this

56:50

see this for

56:52

a happy are enjoying each

56:54

other nobody hates silly boy it's

56:56

you know there was a lovely risk and i suddenly

56:58

realize entertainers a more important

57:00

than i realized like says i you i had

57:03

a sort of cambridge snow see

57:05

progress say hemisphere

57:07

view of comedy assumes a luxury

57:10

been something as didn't really master allies

57:12

serving it matters a lot more than ever

57:15

yeah applause ever as as instead of

57:18

sarajevo , a film festival

57:20

and they told me how they got through that for

57:23

years of being besieged by the serves

57:25

up the hills mobbing shells

57:27

and shooting was some risk of it into

57:30

they they hire to get a garage they

57:33

turn it into a set of our after dark

57:35

when it was so stressed the streets they go

57:38

into the sit around they watch comedy mainly

57:40

monty python some reason and

57:42

, said they service a was i went

57:44

in there feeling completely miserable and

57:47

when they came out an hour a half

57:49

later life seem

57:51

better nothing had changed but

57:54

their spirits been listing

57:57

somewhere and i thought ah

57:59

i thought we should do that not

58:02

a bad

58:04

her given to play exactly

58:06

know far more valuable ally of us or

58:08

when i was sort of thirty and a

58:10

bit snotty dos when

58:14

when did you become satisfied

58:17

or are you looking towards us

58:21

either , own doesn't so many

58:23

bookseller to read friends that the

58:26

the divorce did absolutely

58:29

lead me out because i never had the sort of money

58:31

that people had worked in america's enemies

58:33

so seriously me as i'm still

58:35

working and trotted my nail is set

58:38

an idiot he streets of and and i'm

58:40

still working so don't really have any savings

58:42

tried but if one or two of the bigger ones

58:44

com os and i get assistance and

58:47

and a lot of animals around animals and

58:51

laugh with my wife who is i

58:53

have to funny people in my life of my life

58:56

my daughter the load made me laugh

58:58

morning when have some and just result

59:00

in time understand what this

59:03

same life is all of is what the

59:05

meaning really have long as

59:08

i am a normal and miles he proved

59:10

if i have any ambitions less for you just answered

59:12

that you before asked yards

59:14

, a few bumps i realize

59:17

everyone has a bomb but but married

59:19

has the most norms coffin married

59:21

them were all the books and

59:24

other like like a like a vital flint

59:26

river the vote for answers or of pharaoh

59:28

of pharaoh superb as either if

59:30

they're scared me about one of our of libraries

59:33

in myself and fantastic stunts

59:35

fantastic sexy guy fun tonight