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audio. the House Oversight Committee

1:13

and ongoing deep state resistance

1:16

to the Trump agenda and

1:18

Trump's appointees. This week I speak

1:20

with the powerful Republican chairman

1:23

of the House Oversight Committee

1:25

James Comer of Kentucky. I

1:27

really feel like I got some

1:30

fascinating insight. We talk about the

1:32

fight between Trump's cabinet

1:34

level appointees including Pam

1:36

Bondi at DOJ and Cash Patel

1:39

at the FBI. and what he calls

1:41

the deep state resistant to the new

1:43

agenda. We touch upon the fight over

1:45

releasing all of the classified JFK

1:47

files and the Epstein files, and at

1:50

the time of this interview, the Trump

1:52

DOJ was still withholding the Epstein

1:54

files from the Oversight Committee, just

1:57

as the Biden administration had done

1:59

before. for it. We're also going

2:02

to talk about the

2:04

IRS and FBI whistleblowers

2:06

and their fate, the

2:08

committee's Act Blue investigation,

2:11

Hunter Biden, and basically

2:13

a federal government adjusting

2:16

to and largely

2:18

doing combat with the Trump

2:20

agenda in his second

2:22

term. Here's Congressman

2:25

James Comer. This Trump administration

2:27

to the first one, he was,

2:29

he was, he's clearly prepared this

2:31

time. He had an agenda. They

2:33

were very quick to do their

2:35

executive orders. They've been very calculated

2:38

in how they've done the executive

2:40

orders. A lot of the executive

2:42

orders, they anticipated. court challenges and

2:44

they're they're loggered up and ready

2:46

to go. So I think that

2:48

the progress that the president has

2:50

made coming out of the gate

2:52

is unprecedented. I'm very satisfied with

2:54

that. Now he's put some cabinet

2:57

secretaries in and as we all

2:59

knew they're they're going to face

3:01

a lot of deep state opposition

3:03

from within. You've got every government

3:05

agency from the Department of Justice.

3:07

to the EPA that is fully employed

3:09

by left-wing activists that are going

3:11

to do everything in their ability

3:13

to to obstruct and to slow

3:15

down all the progress and momentum

3:18

that President Trump has coming

3:20

out of the gate. So I think

3:22

the president's done a tremendous job. I

3:24

think a lot of his cabinet secretaries

3:26

have done a really good job and

3:28

a lot of them are unfortunately facing

3:31

a lot of internal battles that that

3:33

I'm optimistic will win at the end

3:35

of the end of the day. Is the

3:37

oversight committee following any of these

3:40

issues such as release of

3:42

these documents including the Epstein documents

3:44

and do you know what's going

3:46

on with that? Yeah, absolutely. I

3:48

appointed a task force led by

3:50

Anna Polina Luna who's very persistent

3:53

and we're trying to follow through

3:55

on the president's directives

3:57

to release certain classified documents.

3:59

we call our American

4:01

secrets. If you'll remember

4:03

when President Trump ordered

4:06

the declassification of the JFK files,

4:08

we found out a few days

4:10

later that the bureaucracy only released

4:12

a handful of documents. They still

4:14

kept thousands of pages. So our

4:17

task force is trying to reach

4:19

out and... question the

4:21

bureaucrats, the bureaucrats, figure out

4:23

which bureaucrat didn't comply with

4:25

the orders. Same thing happened

4:27

with the Epstein files when

4:29

Pam Bondi, she was releasing

4:31

the Epstein files. It really

4:34

wasn't the Epstein files, obviously.

4:36

So that task force is kind

4:38

of working on very hard behind

4:40

the scenes to identify which bureaucracies

4:43

and which bureaucrats are not

4:45

complying with the president's orders. And

4:48

that's a common battle that a

4:50

Republican president faces in this town.

4:52

You've got a, when a Republican

4:54

wins the White House, they come

4:56

in and they appoint Republicans to

4:58

be cabinet secretaries, but then they

5:00

have thousands of employees that are

5:03

protected by the civil service system,

5:05

protected by merit or tenure, whatever

5:07

you want to call it, that just

5:09

will not follow orders. That's why we

5:11

want to reclassify a lot of the

5:13

federal employees to what's called a Schedule

5:15

F employee, which means if you don't follow

5:17

the orders. from your cabinet secretary

5:19

or division manager, then you can lose

5:22

your job, which is what happened in

5:24

the private sector. So, you know, the

5:26

task force is going to try to

5:29

follow through because you're just dealing with

5:31

a lot of bureaucracies. There's a

5:33

reason the government doesn't want

5:35

to turn over the JFK

5:37

files. There's a reason the government

5:39

doesn't want to turn over the

5:41

Epstein files. So hopefully our task

5:44

force in the oversight committee can

5:46

push these. agencies and these bureaucrats

5:48

to do what they're supposed to

5:50

do. Do you anticipate the task force

5:52

or the committee will have hearings and

5:54

will actually have names named and there

5:56

will be accountability to that? I do, I

5:59

do and Anna Polina Luna. chomping at the bit

6:01

to bring some of these people in

6:03

so you know there aren't many people in

6:05

this town that want to come in

6:07

front of the House Oversight Committee. I

6:09

mean, you can ask NPR and PBS about

6:11

that yesterday or the four mayors of

6:13

the sanctuary cities or in the list goes

6:16

on and on and on. The former

6:18

Secret Service Director, if you come in front

6:20

of the House Oversight Committee and you've

6:22

been behaving badly, it's not going to

6:24

end well for you. So hopefully, we'll see

6:26

some more movement on these documents. But

6:28

again, it's just a perfect example of

6:31

what Panbondi, Cash Patel, Brooke

6:33

Rollins, whoever, Lee's Eldon, doesn't matter,

6:35

whoever the head of a cabinet

6:37

or agency is, they're going to

6:39

face internal opposition on a daily

6:42

basis. Have you gotten any top-line

6:44

information on specifics of the documents

6:46

being withheld, particularly on the Epstein

6:48

case from the FBI office in

6:50

New York? No, I have no

6:52

idea. You know, the excuse

6:54

they always use, and I

6:56

dealt with this in the

6:59

Biden investigation, was there's an

7:01

ongoing investigation. There's an ongoing

7:03

investigation. Well, there's always an

7:05

ongoing investigation. There's probably been

7:07

an ongoing investigation of the

7:09

Kennedy assassination since the 60s.

7:12

And I'm sure there's an

7:14

ongoing investigation in

7:16

the Epstein drama. But at the

7:18

end of the day, the president ordered

7:20

the release of these files. There has

7:22

been enough time past where the

7:24

American people deserve to know who,

7:27

at the very least, was on that list.

7:29

Do you think we now have all

7:31

the JFK files or they're in the

7:33

process of being posted and so on

7:35

or is there still more to come? Well

7:37

I would say that we've probably gotten

7:39

pretty much what we're going to get.

7:42

You know the question I have is

7:44

where there are documents that have disappeared

7:46

over the last four decades and that's

7:49

probably a possibility. You know, I find

7:51

it hard to believe that if the

7:53

government was involved in some type of

7:56

role in the Kennedy assassination, that they

7:58

would say, okay, let's keep this file

8:00

and the safe here and you know I

8:02

would think that file would disappear very quickly.

8:04

Well I've said much the same about

8:06

the Epstein files certainly if there are

8:09

bad actors they weren't holding the documents

8:11

under a glass dome waiting for Trump

8:13

to be reelected so that they could

8:15

be released. You know the thing that worries

8:17

me about the Epstein files and I've read

8:20

a lot about it like most Americans have

8:22

is was our government involved in this were

8:24

they potentially blackmailing some of

8:26

the most influential people? in the

8:28

United States or in the world

8:30

if you go into, you know,

8:32

Britain and other countries where we

8:34

know there were very high profile people

8:37

that were going to the Epstein

8:39

Island or whatever you want to

8:41

call it. And if so, the government

8:43

knew that there was possibly

8:46

human trafficking, that there was, you

8:48

know, sex with minors and things like

8:50

that. What were they doing? What were

8:52

they, what were they, what role were

8:54

they? playing in this? What was their

8:56

motive? And if that was the case,

8:58

I find it hard to believe that

9:01

any type of evidence of that

9:03

would still be in existence.

9:05

Including videos. Including videos. Because

9:07

there's a lot of liability

9:09

there for the government. You

9:11

know, I think at the

9:14

very least, there are two questions

9:16

most Americans have. Who was on

9:18

the list? And did the government,

9:21

our government, our government,

9:23

play any role? in

9:25

evaluating that or spying

9:27

on that or were they

9:29

involved in any type of,

9:31

you know, blackmail attempts or

9:33

anything to get information. I

9:35

mean, there's a lot of,

9:37

there are a lot of

9:40

questions that people have that

9:42

I think the government should answer

9:44

now, the time has passed,

9:46

but. We're still battling that battle. The

9:48

administration, one official, stated on the record

9:51

that they're working very hard to prepare

9:53

for prosecutions, that they're looking for these

9:55

documents. Is there also a role for

9:58

the oversight committee in this? Yeah, I mean, we... We

10:00

want to work with the administration any

10:02

way we can. And I've delivered

10:04

that message to Pam Bondi.

10:06

I've had a couple of good

10:09

conversations with Cash Patel and John

10:11

Radcliffe. We've been on the front

10:13

lines of battling the deep state. We

10:15

believe our government has been involved

10:18

in a lot of things that

10:20

they shouldn't have been involved in.

10:22

We believe that the government has

10:25

provided information that was incorrect

10:27

from a national security standpoint. Dating

10:29

all the way back to George

10:31

Bush and Iraq had weapons of

10:34

mass destruction. I mean it's been

10:36

a credibility crisis at our intelligence.

10:38

communities and obviously we fought

10:40

with the Merrick Garland Department

10:42

of Justice. We have a

10:44

long list of things that

10:46

we would like to see accomplished

10:48

in the Department of Justice. We

10:51

have a deep state list that

10:53

we believe these employees need to

10:55

be deposed at the very least.

10:57

to see, you know, to answer

10:59

basic questions, why did you cover

11:01

this? Why did you provide this

11:04

statement? Why did you sign the

11:06

letter saying that laptop was Russian

11:08

disinformation when you knew darn well

11:10

it was not Russian disinformation? So

11:12

there's a lot of... questions that

11:14

we have, a lot of people

11:16

that we believe need to be

11:18

held accountable. And we're willing to

11:21

offer our services, we'll work in

11:23

depositions, we'll have public hearings, we'll

11:25

do whatever, but we need to

11:27

work with the Department of Justice. Are

11:29

you waiting for the Green Light from them

11:31

or do you are working to schedule

11:33

hearings on the types of things? And

11:35

why haven't you gotten yet? Well, I don't

11:37

know, you know, I mean, there's a lot to

11:39

do, and Pam Bondi is walking into

11:41

an agency that's hostile. towards her. There's

11:44

no question about it. I mean, you've

11:46

had a few people like Leslie Wolf

11:48

that resigned before Pam Bondi took office

11:50

that were that were involved in a

11:52

lot of high profile government cover ups,

11:54

but there's still a lot of people

11:56

in that Department of Justice. So

11:58

she's she's having to battle within and

12:01

hopefully hopefully she'll win that

12:03

battle and we can see some

12:05

accountability. Just a side story

12:07

when Jeff Sessions became Trump's

12:09

attorney general for a short

12:11

period of time very good sources

12:14

first-hand sources said he would

12:16

whisper in his own office. Yeah. Did

12:18

you hear that too? Well yeah

12:20

absolutely and I've had conversations with

12:22

Bill Barr and look you know Bill

12:24

Barr was getting if you go back

12:27

to the by investigation. Bill Barr

12:29

was told things by his

12:31

intelligence officials at the highest

12:33

level that just weren't true.

12:35

And Bill Barr, you would think

12:38

could believe what his FBI director

12:40

says or what his CIA

12:42

director says and what the

12:44

higher-ups in the FBI and

12:47

the Department of Justice would

12:49

have to say about certain

12:51

high-profile cases. But in the end,

12:53

they weren't being truthful with him.

12:55

And some people say, well, Barr

12:57

should have done this, or Barr

12:59

should have done that. Well, it's

13:01

very difficult when you have all these

13:03

people around you that are just not

13:06

honest. And I think that Bondi,

13:08

to her credit, realizes that coming in.

13:10

So it's going to take a while

13:12

to put your people in place

13:14

there because you've got all

13:16

these career employees that you can't

13:19

terminate. That's something that needs to

13:21

be changed and that's a role

13:23

the oversight committee will play. Hopefully,

13:25

we can get legislation passed that

13:28

will reclassify some higher level

13:30

career employees to where you have to

13:32

follow orders. I mean, if a president's elected

13:34

by a mandate, and let's use

13:37

the EPA, for example, I'm good

13:39

friends with Lee's Eldon, who's

13:41

the EPA administrator. I knew

13:43

Scott Pruitt, who is Trump's

13:46

first EPA administrator. He was

13:48

from Kentucky. You put these

13:50

administrators in and they have a

13:52

mandate and the president campaign said,

13:55

we're going to drill, we're going to

13:57

frack. But then they order the EPA

13:59

okay. We're a reversing course. We

14:02

now want people to drill. We

14:04

want people to fry. And the

14:06

EPA employees say, no, no, no,

14:08

we're not going to approve any

14:10

permit. We're going to find the

14:13

coal companies. We're going to do

14:15

everything we can to put the

14:17

coal companies out of business and

14:19

to make sure the oil companies

14:22

can't drill and get any new

14:24

permits. So what's the repercussions of

14:26

that? There's nothing way that the...

14:28

the personnel laws are and the

14:30

labor laws are in the federal

14:33

government, it's impossible almost to fire

14:35

these people even though they're directly

14:37

disobeying an order from the newly

14:39

elected president who received a mandate

14:42

and campaigned on changing the energy

14:44

policy, for example. So all of

14:46

these cabinet secretaries. Whether it's Brooke

14:48

Rollins at ag or Pam Bondi

14:50

at Department of Justice, they're having

14:53

to fight a lot of internal

14:55

battles that really haven't made it

14:57

into the mainstream media yet. And

14:59

you know this because you've talked

15:01

with them. They're already facing them.

15:04

I've talked to some of the

15:06

cabinet secretaries. What are oversight committees

15:08

top priorities? Well, from an investigation

15:10

standpoint, which is what most people

15:13

keep up with. We're very into

15:15

the act blue investigation. Hope to

15:17

be able to be able to

15:19

share some new information very soon

15:21

on that. What is the Act

15:24

Blue investigation? Act Blue is the

15:26

Democrat platform that they just raised

15:28

hundreds of millions of dollars in

15:30

this last election cycle from all

15:33

these anonymous donors, which you can

15:35

only get donations from people in

15:37

the United States. These donations had

15:39

to be from people in the

15:41

United States, but because of campaign

15:44

finance laws, you don't have to

15:46

disclose who a donor is if

15:48

they donate less than $200. So

15:50

all these $150 donations, $175, $199,

15:53

$199, $199 donations, just mirac miraculously

15:55

coming in every day. And the

15:57

Republicans, we have a platform too,

15:59

called Win Red, but Act Blue.

16:01

outrage when read like seven or

16:04

eight to one. And this is

16:06

money that went to political campaigns.

16:08

Went to political campaigns, not just

16:10

political campaigns, but a lot of

16:13

the protests. You know, Act Blue

16:15

is a platform for Democrats that

16:17

want to have, you know, town

16:19

hall protests and, you know, just

16:21

disrupt lives in congressmen, protesters and

16:24

things like that outside groups that,

16:26

you know, have campaigns to promote

16:28

the green new deal and things

16:30

like that. This, this Act Blue.

16:33

It's very suspicious that they've raised

16:35

this much money from this many

16:37

people. If it was to say,

16:39

okay, the Democrats outraged the Republicans

16:41

10 to one, I would possibly

16:44

believe that if you disclose who

16:46

the donors were. You think there's

16:48

foreign money in there? I think

16:50

there's a lot of money laundering

16:53

that potential there. So we're following

16:55

the money in the same manner,

16:57

we followed the money in the

16:59

Biden family investigation and trying to

17:01

trace the money back to where

17:04

the original sources. We know there

17:06

are people whose names were used

17:08

in making donations that have already

17:10

come out and said we never

17:12

made this donation or we made

17:15

one donation not. 5,000 donations. So

17:17

someone was using the names. Did

17:19

someone use a name 5,000 times?

17:21

Someone's used a name many times

17:24

on donations and I think that

17:26

it's just a matter of putting

17:28

it all together and that's what

17:30

we're in the process of doing.

17:32

What's next on that? What do

17:35

you expect hearings or just depositions?

17:37

But here's the, where I know

17:39

we're hitting a nerve is I

17:41

think the top five people that

17:44

act blue have all resigned in

17:46

the last. three weeks. That's always

17:48

a good sign. Because why would

17:50

they resign? They raised a record

17:52

about a money. I mean everything

17:55

should be, you know, hunky-dory over

17:57

there, but yet they're all heading

17:59

for the exit. It would also

18:01

be interesting to see if the

18:04

Department of Justice in the Merrick

18:06

Garland administration know what was going

18:08

on at Act Blue. I think

18:10

that's going to be another question

18:12

because what I always said about

18:15

the Biden family, influence-pedaling investigation, there

18:17

were two crimes. There were the

18:19

crimes the Biden family committed, the

18:21

financial crime, and then there was

18:24

the crime that the government knew

18:26

what the Biden were doing, but

18:28

yet they covered it up. Because

18:30

there were four agencies investigating the

18:32

Biden, there was a Department of

18:35

Justice, there was the FBI, the

18:37

Securities and Exchange Commission, and the

18:39

IRS. And yet every time they

18:41

were told to stand down by

18:44

a deep state bureaucrat, and what

18:46

I think will be interested in

18:48

that blue, did the Department of

18:50

Justice know about this? And intentionally

18:52

withhold it, hoping that if the

18:55

Democrat had won the House, And

18:57

Harris had won the presidency. You

18:59

could have just swept this under

19:01

the rug. To the Biden family

19:04

investigation, the book that you wrote,

19:06

and the investigations that you did

19:08

from what I saw and from

19:10

what I looked into myself, really

19:12

uncovered incredible detail about what happened

19:14

and how much money came to

19:16

the Biden family. Clearly, and I

19:18

don't think even the Biden's denied

19:20

in many cases, that it was

19:22

only because of the influence that

19:24

Joe Biden was perceived to have.

19:26

And there was so much detail

19:28

in there about, as you said,

19:30

the government agencies being told to

19:32

stand down on certain investigations, particularly

19:35

the IRS whistleblowers who wanted to

19:37

follow the trail all the way

19:39

to Joe Biden, but were told

19:41

they were not allowed to. In

19:43

the end, after all of this...

19:45

Nothing much came of that. Nothing

19:47

was done with it hardly. Well,

19:49

Joe Biden pardoned his entire family

19:51

on the way out. But with

19:53

respect to the whistleblowers, Jim Jordan

19:55

and I really been. and pushing

19:57

the whistleblowers to be promoted in

19:59

this new administration. And fortunately they

20:01

were. They're gonna be very high

20:03

up at the IRS now. So

20:05

we're excited about that. That's gonna

20:08

bring credibility back to the Internal

20:10

Revenue Service. And then you've got

20:12

the people at the Department of

20:14

Justice. We've had a couple that

20:16

have resigned. Leslie Wolf was one

20:18

of the people that was involved

20:20

in the cover-up of the Biden

20:22

crime family. schemes, but there are

20:24

others. So hopefully, you know, this

20:26

is one of the lists that

20:28

we've given Patel and the Department

20:30

of Justice. We hope that some

20:32

of these employees that were involved

20:34

in these cover-ups are brought in

20:36

in question because they need to

20:38

be held accountable. And with respect

20:41

to the Biden's, we believe that

20:43

those pardons would not hold up

20:45

in court. You can't. pardon your

20:47

entire family preemptively for an 11-year

20:49

period for crimes that, according to

20:51

Joe Biden, they never committed. Well,

20:53

if they never committed any crimes

20:55

and they've never been charged for

20:57

any crimes, then why are you

20:59

pardoning your entire family? Who says

21:01

you can't do that? I guess

21:03

there's not a precedent, but has

21:05

it been challenged? There's not been

21:07

challenged. The entity that needs to

21:09

challenge it is the Department of

21:11

Justice. People who have blown the

21:14

whistle inside federal agencies are looking

21:16

for redress. I guess the IRS

21:18

whistleblowers have been taken care of.

21:20

Yes. What about some of the

21:22

FBI whistleblowers? There's Stephen Friend, there

21:24

are others who spoke out from

21:26

inside, and I think people are

21:28

waiting to see and hear what

21:30

happens with them. Yeah, I don't

21:32

know what's... the process is ongoing

21:34

with the FBI whistleblower Jim Jordan

21:36

dealt more with them in the

21:38

judiciary committee. I dealt with the

21:40

IRS whistleblower Shappley and Ziegler and

21:42

I think they're very very satisfied

21:44

and I think we sent a

21:47

message to whistleblower's across the federal

21:49

government. If you come forward and

21:51

blow the whistle and what you

21:53

say is true, now sometimes people

21:55

blow the whistle and what they're

21:57

what they're accusing doesn't always pan

21:59

out. If you blow the whistle

22:01

and what you said is true,

22:03

then you're going to be rewarded.

22:05

At the very least you're not

22:07

going to be retaliating against and

22:09

Shappley and Ziegler were retaliated against

22:11

it to IRS. So, you know,

22:13

we've got a Treasury Secretary Secretary.

22:15

and assumed to be our as

22:17

commissioner that know full well what

22:20

Shapley and Ziegler went through. Jim

22:22

Jordan and I made sure of

22:24

that and I think they're going

22:26

to be rewarded and they should

22:28

be rewarded. Those are the type

22:30

of government employees we need. They

22:32

risked it all to do the

22:34

right thing. There as you know

22:36

government is littered with stories like

22:38

theirs. Things never turn out well

22:40

for the whistleblower. It would not

22:42

be hard it seems to me,

22:44

but for the... fact that there's

22:46

not enough support. For Congress to

22:48

pass a law that designates special

22:50

status for whistleblowers who tell the

22:53

truth where they are encouraged to

22:55

come forward and provided not the

22:57

whistleblower laws on the books which

22:59

are not helping them but where

23:01

there's not this upside-down dynamic where

23:03

they're punished and faced retaliation even

23:05

if their jobs are predicted they're

23:07

still kind of ruined. Seems like

23:09

there would be a way to

23:11

flip that in government and say

23:13

these are the kind of employees

23:15

we want to reward them to

23:17

hold them out. I agree. And

23:19

one of the upcoming hearings that

23:21

we're in the process of talking

23:23

about is one that deals with

23:26

whistleblowers, just to have people come

23:28

forward that blew the whistle and

23:30

tell their story. And what advice

23:32

do you have for other whistleblowers?

23:34

What can we do to protect

23:36

whistleblowers? And ask them questions about

23:38

how are you retaliated against. So

23:40

I think that's going to be

23:42

a good hearing, because if you're

23:44

doing oversight, like my committee does,

23:46

you have to have whistleblower. We

23:48

can't make it without whistleblower. Because

23:50

anytime we request information, if you've

23:52

got... a hostile administration like the

23:54

Biden administration was and a hostile

23:56

attorney general like merit Garland. They're

23:59

going to say, well we can't

24:01

provide that because there's an ongoing

24:03

investigation. I said that earlier in

24:05

the interview. I heard that 10,000

24:07

times over the past two years.

24:09

Well we can't turn that over

24:11

there's an ongoing investigation. We're hearing

24:13

that with the Epstein files now

24:15

in this administration. So who's telling

24:17

you that? I mean that's the

24:19

when we request information. If they

24:21

don't provide it, that's what they

24:23

say. There's an ongoing investigation. Some

24:25

liaison to Congress tells you that?

24:27

Well, whoever, whoever replies to our

24:29

letter or subpoena, that's what they

24:32

say. There's an ongoing investigation. So

24:34

even now, they're citing that. Well,

24:36

we haven't, we haven't, we've been

24:38

real careful to try to let,

24:40

you know, some of these cabinet

24:42

officials get established and things like

24:44

that. list and things like that

24:46

and that's been the the reply

24:48

thus far but they still say

24:50

we're going to release it we're

24:52

in the process of releasing it

24:54

we just got to make sure

24:56

nothing is released that compromises the

24:58

ongoing investigation and then the last

25:00

area I wanted to talk about

25:02

was the efforts to shrink government

25:05

maybe Donald Trump is the first

25:07

one that can kind of do

25:09

this in a meaningful way in

25:11

a long time because as members

25:13

have told me for many years

25:15

You don't win votes or make

25:17

friends by cutting, ultimately cutting jobs

25:19

and cutting grants and money going

25:21

out the door. So how is

25:23

that going and what role is

25:25

the oversight committee having all of

25:27

that? We're going to play a

25:29

big role in this reduction in

25:31

force. That is clearly in our

25:33

jurisdiction. When you look at a

25:35

government agency, most government agencies, the

25:38

biggest expense in their budget is

25:40

personnel. We have too many federal

25:42

employees. And there are some great

25:44

federal employees, there are some employees

25:46

that are working hard, and there

25:48

are some employees that are probably

25:50

working hard in agencies that we

25:52

don't need. But at the end

25:54

of the day, we can't continue

25:56

to spend two trillion dollars a

25:58

year more. than we take in.

26:00

We can't afford the size of

26:02

the federal government that we have.

26:04

And there's an opportunity to eliminate

26:06

a bunch of unnecessary federal agencies

26:08

like the U.S. Department of Education

26:10

and return the power back to

26:13

the states. There's an opportunity to

26:15

eliminate FEMA and let the states

26:17

administer that. That would solve a

26:19

lot of bureaucratic... nightmares that we

26:21

deal with at our office every

26:23

day. One of the biggest things

26:25

I do from a casework standpoint,

26:27

not being the chairman of the

26:29

House Office Committee, but being a

26:31

U.S. representative for Kentucky's first congressional

26:33

district is help people navigate the

26:35

federal bureaucracies. If you can eliminate

26:37

the bureaucracies and let the states

26:39

make decisions on how do we...

26:41

pay for debris removal after our

26:43

storm. Then I think that solves

26:46

a lot of problems and it

26:48

eliminates a lot of unnecessary waste.

26:50

The spending for these federal employees'

26:52

salary and benefits and office space

26:54

is enormous. And it's not just

26:56

an annual thing. It's for life

26:58

when they retire, you're paying, you

27:00

know, the pension for the rest

27:02

of life, the health insurance for

27:04

the rest of life. And you

27:06

know, For better or worse, we

27:08

can't afford that anymore. And to

27:10

Donald Trump's credit, he is stepping

27:12

forward and saying, look, we're going

27:14

to we're going to eliminate a

27:16

bunch of agencies. We're going to

27:19

eliminate a bunch of positions. You

27:21

just look at the DEA. I

27:23

mean, it's illegal to discriminate. So

27:25

Democrats, I say, oh, you're going

27:27

to discriminate. No, no, it's already

27:29

illegal to discriminate. If someone gets

27:31

fired because of their race, they

27:33

can go to the personnel cabinet.

27:35

the personnel office, every government agency

27:37

has a personnel office. This DEAI

27:39

was an unnecessary added layer of

27:41

bureaucracy that was used just to

27:43

harass people in hiring. And we

27:45

can get rid of that DEA

27:47

and save a lot of tech.

27:49

dollars and still protect workers from

27:52

being discriminated. But does Congress have

27:54

to and will they be doing

27:56

things like passing a law that

27:58

eliminates the Department of Education so

28:00

on top of the executive order

28:02

as there are legal challenges I

28:04

think that would make some of

28:06

them go away right? I've got

28:08

a bill in the House and

28:10

Mike Lee has one in the

28:12

Senate that's going to help expedite

28:14

some of these executive orders and

28:16

allow Congress to do an up

28:18

or down vote on things. I

28:20

think the public's going to support

28:22

a lot of what President Trump's

28:25

doing. So we're trying to do

28:27

everything in our ability, from a

28:29

congressional standpoint, to follow through on

28:31

these executive orders and try to

28:33

make them permanent. Back to a

28:35

question from earlier, though. It's not

28:37

a popular thing when you have

28:39

to go out and raise money

28:41

as a member of Congress to

28:43

be reelected every couple of years

28:45

to make cuts. So is there

28:47

pushback behind closed doors from other

28:49

Republicans who don't want to do

28:51

some of this? a book called

28:53

Profiles of Courage, if you know

28:55

what I mean. I mean, you've

28:58

got members of Congress that their

29:00

number one priority in my opinion

29:02

is self-preservation, and that's unfortunate, because

29:04

this is a once in a

29:06

decade opportunity, maybe a once in

29:08

a lifetime opportunity, where you've got

29:10

a Republican president, they actually want

29:12

to do something. A Republican House

29:14

and a Republican Senate. So, you

29:16

know, the reconciliation bill is vital

29:18

because we don't have to get

29:20

60 votes in the Senate. Anything

29:22

that can be put on that

29:24

reconciliation bill needs to be put

29:26

on it. It needs to be

29:28

one bill. It never didn't. You

29:31

know, it was pretty frustrating me

29:33

sitting back watching members of the

29:35

Senate and a few members of

29:37

the House, the ones that would

29:39

be the one that you just

29:41

described that didn't want to do

29:43

anything. Say, oh, well, let's do

29:45

two bills. Let's do two bills.

29:47

They do two bills because they

29:49

don't want to have to have

29:51

to have to have to vote.

29:53

Because it's a tough vote. When

29:55

you vote to eliminate somebody's position,

29:57

someone in your district. loses their

29:59

job, they're going to be mad

30:01

at you, they're not going to

30:04

vote for you more than likely.

30:06

And their family's going to be

30:08

mad at you. So at the

30:10

end of the day, it's a

30:12

tough job, but you signed up

30:14

for it. You know, this is

30:16

a job we signed up for.

30:18

Do you have enough of a

30:20

margin, Republicans in the House, to

30:22

overcome that? Because it's so narrow.

30:25

common Republican president, I would say

30:27

no. There's no way we'll pass

30:29

it. But President Trump's so popular

30:31

with the Republican base that I

30:33

think that he can push it

30:35

over the line. Because there's always

30:37

going to be 10 or 12

30:39

members. I don't care what the

30:41

bill is. They want to be

30:43

holdouts. They want to get on

30:45

TV. They want to tweet. And

30:48

what I've told by Johnson, I

30:50

said, just let Trump deal with

30:52

it. Do the webcam. Put it

30:54

on the floor for a vote.

30:56

And if somebody votes against it,

30:58

let them have to take a

31:00

phone call from Trump. That's what

31:02

happened with Victoria Sparks. You know,

31:04

that's what happened with Johnny Ernst.

31:06

I mean, I can start naming

31:08

names of people that said they're

31:10

not going to vote for President

31:12

Trump's nominee for this. Or they're

31:15

not going to vote for the

31:17

reconciliation bill. Let President Trump talk

31:19

to him. Because if you go

31:21

against... The mandate that

31:23

president Trump received now there are things

31:25

that that that you know a lot

31:27

of us wouldn't do Just because president

31:30

Trump asked to do something that he

31:32

campaigned on that he's been transparent about

31:34

that is clearly part of his agenda

31:37

That's a different deal. I think my

31:39

people I win, you know, one my

31:41

last district my last race my last

31:44

four races by 50 points 75-25 but

31:46

if I start going against President Trump's

31:48

agenda, people will be mad at me

31:51

in my district. So I support the

31:53

president's agenda, the agenda that he campaigned

31:55

on. You know, if something pops up...

31:58

a grievance or something, you know, that's

32:00

a whole different scenario. But if he

32:02

talks about, he campaigned about eliminating the

32:05

Department of Education. He campaigned on reducing

32:07

the size of the government. That's his

32:09

agenda, and I'm going to support it.

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