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Mike DeStefano filling in for

0:37

Matthew Coss Maple Leafs with

0:39

a 3-2 win in overtime

0:41

last night and it was

0:44

Simone Benoit of all people

0:46

ending the game the

0:48

overtime hero the overtime overachiever

0:50

if you will who massive

0:53

plays back-to-back games

0:55

in O.T. To set up the

0:57

Maple Leafs pretty they now lead

0:59

the series 3-0. with Game 4

1:01

to go Saturday night. You can

1:03

list to it right here on

1:05

T.S.N. 1050. To join me to

1:07

talk about last night's Lease Win,

1:09

Jay Rose Hill, former Maple Leaf

1:11

and co-host of Lease Morning

1:14

Take. What's going on, Rosie? How are

1:16

you doing, man? How you like that

1:18

game? You know, it's nice that the

1:20

Lease got the dub, and it's nicer

1:23

that it was a guy like Cimo

1:25

Benoit to score the game winner. It's

1:27

always fun when you get a game

1:29

winner. Yeah, it is and

1:31

I think the best thing is that

1:34

and it kind of takes the pressure

1:36

off the big boys when you're getting

1:38

scoring from everywhere I mean Max Domi

1:40

was the overtime hero before on a

1:42

play from Simone Benoit again You've seen

1:44

Morgan Riley jump in on a couple

1:46

of goals. OLL got the first one

1:48

of the series when you're spreading it

1:50

out like that. It just feels like

1:52

they're firing on all cylinders and not

1:54

really something that we're used to this

1:56

team having in the past in the playoffs

1:59

to be honest like everything's going right

2:01

for Toronto doesn't it like the core

2:03

fours rolling the power play is cooking

2:05

stole ours been excellent the defense is

2:07

coming through and playing the way that

2:09

Brad true living intended on them playing

2:11

and now they're getting the depth scoring

2:13

I mean it seems like every balance

2:15

has kind of gone Toronto's way here

2:17

so far yeah it kind of does

2:19

I feel like they've hit their stride

2:21

kind of at the end of the

2:23

season there I think guys got healthy

2:25

some guys were starting to find their

2:27

game and like you said you know

2:30

lots of different people stepping up in

2:32

different ways then you know that comes

2:34

from the goal tending to the defense

2:36

to the depth forwards to the big

2:38

boys and it's it's it's a welcome

2:40

site for a lot of one in

2:42

a lot of people in least nation

2:44

oh it certainly is but my question

2:46

to you i guess jays like is

2:48

this sustainable what you're seeing is this

2:50

a sustainable way for the maple leaves

2:52

to have success to go on a

2:54

long fruitful playoff run because there are

2:56

the doubters out there that look at

2:59

the series and like okay they're up

3:01

three oh but the underlying numbers haven't

3:03

looked great and they're playing Ottawa let's

3:05

wait and hold our breath until we

3:07

get to see them against a more

3:09

established contender like a Tampa or Florida

3:11

or Washington later on in a playoffs

3:13

yeah I mean there's something to that

3:15

but as the number one seed within

3:17

any series who's got a three-nothing lead.

3:19

All we know for sure is they've

3:21

done exactly what they've needed to do.

3:23

And I think you can tip your

3:25

cap to that. Does that mean they're

3:27

winning the Stanley Cup? Of course not.

3:30

But I don't think they're scrimping by

3:32

the skin of their teeth. I don't

3:34

feel like they've gotten lucky. I don't

3:36

think the rest are giving them. Games,

3:38

I think they're doing it the right

3:40

way. And nothing's perfect by any stretch.

3:42

From what we know and what we've

3:44

seen, I don't think we could ask

3:46

for anymore But I agree with what

3:48

you're saying that being said there's going

3:50

to be a better opponent in round

3:52

two if they can get there and

3:54

if it happens to be the Florida

3:56

Panthers I think they are the best

3:59

playoff team in the league and I

4:01

think that if the maples do face

4:03

them again where i get the head

4:05

of myself a little bit if they

4:07

can face the panthers and if they

4:09

beat the panthers i think that they

4:11

will be the favorites to win the

4:13

stanley cop so if they can get

4:15

to that second round and it is

4:17

florida which is looking like it's leaning

4:19

that way i think they'll have a

4:21

huge challenge in front of them no

4:23

question unbelievable how florra can just flip

4:25

a switch like that a limp into

4:27

the playoffs guys haven't played in weeks

4:30

and all of a understood when you

4:32

look at the box score and watch

4:34

them play other teams and they're losing

4:36

to other teams and they can't be

4:38

champion the regular season they lose to

4:40

New York and it's just like who

4:42

are these guys and then when I

4:44

watch the Maple Leafs play them they

4:46

look like the Russian Red Army and

4:48

it's shocking and you know it's not

4:50

supposed to be easy to win a

4:52

Stanley Cup but the Leafs have sure

4:54

had a tough time running into juggernoths

4:56

whether it's Boston, Tampa, the Panthers and

4:58

It's never easy for anybody, but man,

5:01

like I said, I think they are

5:03

the And they're the last opponent I'd

5:05

want to make beliefs to face in

5:07

the playoffs and I I think they're

5:09

most likely going to run into them

5:11

So again, like I said, it's a

5:13

big challenge. No doubt with Jay Rose

5:15

Hill former May belief and co-host of

5:17

Leafs morning take When you look at

5:19

the the Maple Leafs and how they

5:21

perform to this point you look at

5:23

the blue line and again You get

5:25

the game winner from Cimo Ben while

5:27

last night He made the big playing

5:30

game two also to set up the

5:32

game winner for Domi had the screen

5:34

game one OEL opens up scoring for

5:36

the series more Morgan Riley has a

5:38

couple of goals and that's just offensively

5:40

and then you think okay now you've

5:42

got Taneve and Jake McCabe doing their

5:44

thing I mean at this blue line

5:46

and how well it's performing how? Like

5:48

what do you think is going through

5:50

Brad True Living's mind at this point?

5:52

Well I think that you know he

5:54

has thought far ahead in some of

5:56

the decisions he's made and now he's

5:58

looking at the sheet. saying this is

6:01

exactly what I planned on and I

6:03

mean to get those players in there

6:05

and you know have Morgan Riley with

6:07

his contract I think I think McCabe

6:09

Tanev OEL and Carlow at about 16

6:11

million dollars of cap hit which is

6:13

unbelievable to get those guys in and

6:15

and locked down for that I think

6:17

he's built this team just the way

6:19

he's wanted to and I mean that's

6:21

all you can really do is put

6:23

names on paper and after that I

6:25

think it's Craig Brube's job to to

6:27

take over from there but I think

6:30

he's in a good place I think

6:32

he's happy with the team and like

6:34

you said it's it's all clicking right

6:36

now no question but I do believe

6:38

that what we've seen in the first

6:40

three games is great and the results

6:42

are great but I think they have

6:44

more to give. I think that there's

6:46

certain players that could pop off and

6:48

really lead the charge. I think in

6:50

the first three games, you've seen a

6:52

few periods that are just kind of

6:54

almost snoozers. And it's not really indicative

6:56

of playoff hockey. And I think in

6:58

one of those periods, I think there's

7:01

opportunity for the least to really take

7:03

control and not relinquish any momentum to

7:05

their opponents and just short things up

7:07

a little bit. And whether that's Neelander

7:09

jumping in a little more or a

7:11

noisy stepping. you know it doesn't matter

7:13

who it is i think they have

7:15

more to give and i think they're

7:17

gonna have to give more when they

7:19

get to the you know the the

7:21

deeper opponents if they do get to

7:23

the second round well i noticed that

7:25

uh... mich martyred and come out of

7:27

your mouth there when talked about guys

7:30

need to give more because i think

7:32

he's been excellent in There's a lot

7:34

riding on this post-season for Mitch Marner.

7:36

He's got six points. You know, he's

7:38

played well on the penalty kill. The

7:40

power play's been exceptional. He's been a

7:42

catalyst there. Like, what can you say

7:44

about the playoff, the response, I guess,

7:46

that Marner's had here with it being

7:48

a platform year for him? It's been

7:50

huge. I mean, I really, I think

7:52

most people kind of look at the

7:54

foreignations face-off as a time where he

7:56

kind of elevated his game. He's made

7:58

some huge plays. He's been a big

8:01

factor in all three of the wins.

8:03

And I think he's adopting a little

8:05

bit more playoff hockey. Again, I think

8:07

everyone's gonna have to elevate it if

8:09

they get to that second round. But

8:11

I've been really hard on Mitch Marner

8:13

publicly for the way that he's played

8:15

in the past. And I believe it

8:17

was warranted when I said it, but

8:19

I do think there's something else about

8:21

him right now. He's elevated his game.

8:23

He has this confidence to himself that

8:25

I don't think he's had in the

8:27

past. and it's showing up on the

8:30

ice. His hockey IQ is through the

8:32

roof. He plays really good defense as

8:34

well and he's got clutch factor going

8:36

on with finishing opportunities. I think he's

8:38

played really good, but just like everyone

8:40

else, if you get up against a

8:42

Florida in the next round, if that

8:44

does happen, you're gonna have to dig

8:47

even deeper and find even more and

8:49

he's one of those guys for sure.

8:51

But like you said, he's just been

8:53

playing fantastically down the

8:55

stretch here. Absolutely. Do you expect for

8:57

you and your pal, Nick Alburga,

8:59

to be teeing up Game 5

9:01

on Monday's Leafs morning take or

9:04

celebrating a Leafs sweep? Which is

9:06

more likely, I think. Oh, good

9:08

question. I think they can sweep them. I

9:10

really do. I think they're the better team.

9:12

I think that Ottawa teams a little bit

9:15

experienced. Allmark is not doing, you know, he's

9:17

not playing his best hockey, like his Vesna.

9:19

award winning season by any stretch and I

9:21

just think they're the better team so I

9:24

think they have a really good opportunity to

9:26

get it done and get the sweep and

9:28

get themselves some rest but I don't think

9:30

it's going to be easy I think that

9:33

all the way team will throw the kitchen

9:35

sink at them and again you're gonna have

9:37

to elevate your game I think that's just

9:39

the theme of the playoffs every step you go

9:41

closer to you know that the finals in the

9:44

Stanley Cup and what your ultimate goal is Every

9:46

little step is going to be a little bit

9:48

tougher, so they need to wrap their heads around

9:50

that get used to it. But again, if they

9:52

play their best hockey, I think they can get

9:54

the sweep done. Ottawa's got to muck it up

9:57

in game four. I'm surprised this series hasn't gotten

9:59

ugly at it. Like I you know

10:01

when you think back to the Battle of

10:03

Ontario from you know back in the early

10:05

2000s And when you look at the the

10:08

Battle of Alberta a couple of years ago

10:10

between Calgary and Edmonton like I feel like

10:12

there was so much animosity in that series

10:15

And it just you know gave it so

10:17

much excitement not say if this hasn't been

10:19

a fun series, but I think if Ottawa

10:21

in particular wants to stay in the fight

10:24

here They literally are going to have to

10:26

fight like I think they need to impose

10:28

their will physically in order to to give

10:30

the leaves around for the money here in

10:33

game four yeah i don't think it's a

10:35

bad strategy for any any team in any

10:37

series but i i do think that was

10:40

on their mind and that was one of

10:42

their their motivations going into this series that

10:44

we can bully the leaves and beat them

10:46

right out of the building and i think

10:49

with their inexperience they didn't really know where

10:51

the line was or how that was supposed

10:53

to look and feel and and how you

10:56

do it without praying to the penalty box

10:58

Unfortunately, they did pray to the penalty boxing

11:00

in game one and this leaves team, when

11:02

the power play is firing, they are just

11:05

too potent. I mean, it only takes a

11:07

couple chances for them to pull away from

11:09

you and the games ought to reach for

11:11

you and they found themselves in that situation

11:14

in game one. So I again I think

11:16

if they're inexperienced I understand that could be

11:18

the game plan and what they need to

11:21

do to to try to get the leaves

11:23

off their game but I just don't know

11:25

if they have the guys that with the

11:27

know how to do it in this day

11:30

and age in the hockey that they have

11:32

to play today because it's not 2001 anymore

11:34

you can't do the stuff that Darcy Tucker

11:36

used to do you're gonna parade to the

11:39

penalty box and I don't think the the

11:41

the sends quite know where that line is

11:43

yet and. You know, the officiating as well,

11:46

sometimes they have trouble finding where that line

11:48

is. It's been a little bit inconsistent so

11:50

far in the playoffs. So it's just a

11:52

tough task to ask those inexperienced players to

11:55

do that, to physically impose their will physically

11:57

on the leafs to the point where they

11:59

can call back into this series. Before I

12:02

let you go, when I get your take

12:04

on the Brand and Hagel hit last night

12:06

on barkov. I'm assuming you've seen the hit

12:08

there. What did you think of it? Sounds

12:11

like he's gonna have a hearing. Did you

12:13

think it's a suspendable hit? Well, I think

12:15

it was interference in a big way. Barkoff

12:17

was not prepared whatsoever for that hit. Listen,

12:20

I love the fact that Hegel plays big.

12:22

I love a small guy that plays with

12:24

a big heart and they will throw himself

12:27

around like that. You saw him in the

12:29

foreign nation step up big time that way.

12:31

That's a huge playoff style hit. they're caught

12:33

his head a little bit or not, I

12:36

don't know, and whether he's going to end

12:38

up being injured by a cop or not,

12:40

I think he's gonna play a factor in

12:42

that, but I think they're gonna throw a

12:45

game at him. I mean, that means a

12:47

lot in the playoffs to that organization, no

12:49

question, but just the fact that it was

12:52

pure, pure interference and such a heavy hit

12:54

that led to probably the injury of a

12:56

star. They're probably gonna ding him, so I

12:58

would love to see that hit in just

13:01

a little bit cleaner a little bit cleaner.

13:03

of a fashion within the rules. I love

13:05

the big hits. They're so hard to throw

13:08

these days where you don't clip his head

13:10

at all and you don't, there's so many

13:12

cap dances you have to do nowadays to

13:14

avoid suspension. But the idea that he's playing

13:17

heavy, I can't say how much I like

13:19

it enough, but I do think he's going

13:21

to get dinged for that one. Yeah, I

13:23

don't know. I'm like, I'm on the fence

13:26

here because I get it was a tad

13:28

late, but for me. looks like it was

13:30

through the chest and there was no contact

13:33

to the head big snapback obviously but I

13:35

don't know I don't see that to me

13:37

I think you could look at it as

13:39

maybe a charging major and that's kind of

13:42

it suspension taken Hagel out for the game

13:44

while Tampa's already out to down to nothing

13:46

I mean that's I don't know seems a

13:48

little extra for me I like the I

13:51

like to take I wish more people thought

13:53

that way unfortunately I've just I've been burned

13:55

too many times thinking that hits are clean

13:58

and the hammer drops from the National Hockey

14:00

League. to be on my side, Rosie. You

14:02

lit up a dude or two in your

14:04

time. I was hoping you'd be with the

14:07

tough guys. Oh, I'm telling you, I love

14:09

it. There's nothing more I like to see

14:11

than that. I wish everyone would play that

14:13

way. I wish it was the 2000s in

14:16

late 90s still. Trust me, I love that

14:18

hockey. I'm just thinking, is he going to

14:20

get suspended or not? So many times I've

14:23

thought there's going to be nothing and the

14:25

lead comes down with the suspension. But trust

14:27

me, I love that style of hockey and

14:29

the fact that Hagel is playing it again.

14:32

A small guy that, you know, steps up

14:34

to the place the way he does, I

14:36

think it's fantastic, it's contagious. I think that

14:39

kind of stuff wins his Stanley Cup. I'm

14:41

all about it. I'm just debating on what

14:43

the NHL is going to think about it.

14:45

Based on the fact that he's having a

14:48

hearing with the league, probably going to get

14:50

a game for that I would imagine. Despite...

14:52

Exactly, it doesn't hold well when they say

14:54

that. Yeah, exactly. All right, Jay, appreciate the

14:57

time as always, pal. We'll chat again soon.

14:59

You bet. Thanks for the chat, have a

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