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Hello, I am Frank and today I am joined by squeaks.

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And squeaks. Here. For that I thought I was doing the intro earlier.

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Nice, nice.

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And then we also have Thomas. What's up everybody. Let's talk about today.

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Yeah we got, we got, The Last of Us, season two episode.

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We're gonna be talking about that South by Midnight from squeaks.

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We got some quickies to go over. Harry Potter casting Marvel rivals season two.

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And, we're gonna get you ready for the end of that new season.

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And earlier.

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Well, let's start off that question of the week.

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You could pair any two characters from different universes where buddy cop movie.

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Who's your duo? I'll start us off for.

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You guys think I want this is going to be so stupid.

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So let's just lone duo Judge Dredd and Demolition Man.

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Oh, yeah. Two full 80s action guys.

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Futuristic stuff. You got the shells for wiping your butt, and you got the big ass shoulder pads.

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Give me that. Oh, man, that's so classic.

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Oh, that'll be so good. Okay, I want to I want to throw in the Last Action Star or whatever.

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Without Action Hero. Yeah. With Arnold. Yeah. That's actually.

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Well, that's one of my all time favorites. That's a good one though.

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Yeah. You got something, squeaks? Yeah, but it's kind of dumb, so.

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That's right. So I'm going the best one with,

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I'm going with. I just mentioned shells wiping your ass. Like, there's nothing dumber than that.

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Yeah, well, you might have to try. Not your. Man. Okay, so I kind of want some comedy with some, like, seriousness.

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And, when I thought about the comedy, I thought about some more recently.

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So I'm going to go with, Donkey Kong. Like how he was portrayed in the, the movie, the Super Mario Bros.

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Movie, with with Solid Snake. Okay.

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And it's someone serious. Kind of like, it's just something outlandish.

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Okay. Is it because they both like to, like, hide in boxes and barrels?

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Is that. Is that your whole thing? Imagine I saw a snake

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who was always in a barrel that had dark label on the front of it.

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Oh my God. That is a wild duo.

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But I mean, just to see them in a cop car would be fun.

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Yeah. It's like a Super Smash Brothers.

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They team up, right? Yeah. Imagine. Oh, that's a good point.

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Imagine if they're like, chasing, I don't know, criminal or whatever.

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Right. But they're. Yeah. But you see Solid Snake in like a Mario Kart type thing on Rainbow Road.

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Like come. On now. Yeah.

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Oh my god. Much needed already. Could work that was good. That was.

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So I was kind of going through I was like, I want something classic.

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I thought about doing animation with live action

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and then somehow I just kind of fell on Teenage Mutant

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Ninja Turtles with Power Rangers and all that individual characters.

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But then I was trying to think of good combos, and I was like,

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maybe you have Rafael with like, the Blue Ranger.

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I was thinking Green Ranger with like, Raphael is two on the no is right on it.

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Yeah. It wouldn't Donatello be the best one with the Blue Ranger?

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Because they're both kind of. Exactly the same.

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So do you want to just put all the similar characters together?

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I don't know, yeah. See, like we could do you could do have some really fun team ups with that.

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I want to, yes. It's just a joke, but not me.

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Those two stuck in Mojo world from X-Men.

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Yeah. Oh. The bad fake bad.

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Yeah. So something like that. I kept trying to think of, like,

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gargoyles with, like, live action, but I don't know, I couldn't,

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I couldn't think of where I would place that either. So if you got something out there, drop it in the comments.

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There we go. Yeah, hit us up in the comments on the guys. By the way, we also have an interview with Rich Davis at the end of the episode.

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We, as per usual, have the shorter interview at the end of this episode, and the extended cut comes out on Thursday

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to check that out. He's the writer of Angel Hunter.

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Fantastic chat. So we're

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gonna be discussing The Last of Us season two, episode one.

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Just first impressions. We're going to keep things a little bit spoiler free in the beginning

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and let people skip ahead if they want to, and then we'll get into total spoilers later on.

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What's your first impression, squeaks? Man. So I'm, I don't know if I'm the right person for this one,

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but my first impressions honestly, is not very impressive.

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I thought it was lackluster. I didn't really care too much for it.

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I think because it is like screenshot and script by script of what we already know.

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So I'm just watching an invitation for that, which I don't hate.

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But then it's like, okay, well now sometimes when we always vote

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for something that's so like, like say for Disney, right?

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We want it to be on the script because it's things we love and we grew up with.

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And then we finally kind of somewhat get something like that.

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Then it's just like so predictable and there's like,

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no twist or no creativeness from maybe on the directors in,

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but watching this episode, there was nothing really that was like,

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I just know. Groundbreaking. Yeah. It didn't.

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Like I'm sitting there on the couch among my phone at the same time,

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and it was kind of like, it's not really like pulling me like into into it.

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I think the one part maybe when, Yeah. Ellie kills like the first, like, ticker, in that store, I mean, okay, cool.

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That's kind of exciting. Especially like that whole, built up of being sneaky.

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Other than that, nothing from, like, Joel was, like, anything while Joel.

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Was pretty subdued, right? Yeah. I think they're really setting up

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their leaning Joel's character completely into the idea that he's going to be,

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there's gonna be a wedge between him and Ellen. Yeah, and it wasn't like he had it.

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His own story outside of it. Like he's building up the town.

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Sure, but they didn't really explore that at all.

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I think the problem with this episode, as much as I do enjoy it,

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I did like it a lot. But yeah, it was so much set up for what's to come in this because,

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I had mentioned this before, but basically this is kind of a premiere for kind of a new show because they went

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from being nomads out on their own, and now they're members of society.

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And of course, we know, like in the third season,

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it's going to be nomads again, essentially. But so we have to kind of reset.

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We have to learn these characters. We have to expand the scope of who we're following now.

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Dina. So I like that a lot more characters are gonna be following.

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So I think that was part of it. It was so much set up that, you know, hey, we already know this stuff.

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Let's get to the action. Yeah, let's see some clickers and stuff like that happening a little bit.

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What do you think, Thomas? Yeah, no, I'm with you guys.

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Like, even though I don't really know the video game, I don't know the story.

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It was it was cool to be back with those characters, but it was pretty subdued.

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And I agree with you. I think they're just trying to show that this huge wedge has been driven

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in between Joe and Ellie, and it's like, we get that they kind of beat

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you over the head with it a few times. Little bit.

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You know, we get introduced to a lot of different characters

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with Jesse, with Dina, with, Abby.

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Like there's a ton of new characters for, for us to meet to set up this season,

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I guess future seasons. But it is a lot.

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And then you're also kind of just seeing this town operate, you know,

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it's like, it could kind of be any town even before the apocalypse.

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So, you know, it's it's okay.

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But, I'm still super invested.

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But yeah, I agree with you guys. It was it was not very exciting for a premiere.

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Yeah, yeah, it's the five year jump to. We have to kind of catch up with stuff there

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too, and see how things have, escalated.

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I think one of the key takeaways from the first season is

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I think it's pretty obvious that Ellie knows Joel was lying to her,

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because I think that's what created that, that split.

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Plus, she's a 19 year old punk like we all, you know, teenagers are the worst.

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But I think that that split is pretty evident, right?

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I think there's something there. And, eventually

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they're going to have a confrontation probably in the next couple episodes even.

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You think that's gonna happen because, yeah. This is my question is like, does he have that confrontation

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in the game before Abby happens or.

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Yeah, okay, let's throw out the spoiler tag real quick.

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I wanna just put that out there for fast. So we're gonna be talking about things we happened to video.

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I'm going for it, guys. Careful with that. There are timestamps in the description.

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If you guys want to jump forward to a few future discussion.

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But in the game, she goes to the hospital and sees finds a recording,

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of them talking about how like, oh, she's the cure, but she'll die.

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And so now she knows the truth. I think that happens before Abby approaches.

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Yeah, I don't remember. It's been some time now, and I remember, like,

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it was a point where she, like, was willing to do this, right if I'm right.

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So, Yeah, it kind of sounds. Like a fun one that she tells him like that, that poor scene,

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they seem to kind of recreate right there. She tells him, like I had a purpose.

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I was willing to die for this purpose. Yeah. And Joel just wasn't ready for that to happen.

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Yeah. You know what to in the part where her and Tommy are shooting,

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like he's doing aiming practice or, like, shooting targets and stuff.

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He even says, like, there's no running off this time.

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Like, if you go on a supply run, like, there's no running off this time.

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What if the last time she ran off, she did go to Utah

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and did discovered the purpose, you know, so like, maybe there is a part

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where she does actually already know, like,

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not only was he he was lying there, but she knows exactly what he did too.

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So yeah, I don't know. I think they could work that in the story. You get like a flashback to maybe,

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you know, a year after they were there actually. Is that five years actually flashback to the five years

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showing that she had already done this. Exactly.

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So she could definitely. No, not not only just know that he's lying, but like,

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know exactly what he was lying about. That that could change a lot too.

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But I didn't know where it fell into the story in the game.

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So that could also change how they do it.

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Yeah. Then we have Abby. I think, one of the most hated characters in all video games.

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Squeaks, what do you think about this take? I know that you're probably not a big fan of Abby.

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I know Daniel was, like, the day that he started playing that game.

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He's like. This is. So mad at her. So. Yeah.

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So this thing, this event with Abby and Joel, right?

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It happens pretty early in the game. I remember that, but Abby grows on me later, and becomes,

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like, starting to become, like, my favorite character to play is in The Last of Us two.

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And I think it's because of, the relationship.

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You think it. But, yeah. Right.

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Yeah. I think a little bit, was, there was like a sermon,

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I guess critics of, like, the relationship

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that Joel is gone now and what Abby and Dean, Dino,

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Dina have compared to what Joel and Ellie had.

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But I kind of found, like, a special about, bond when,

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you're starting to play Abby, and then she's with a little boy,

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and I was kind of digging that because it's almost like an older sister little brother type thing.

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And that's what really, like, gravitated me to, like me.

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I really like Abby. I, I don't mind playing The Last of Us three.

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That's more, you know, following this, what?

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Our feature of Abby. Because now I think Ellie.

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And the way number two in Ellie's fine. I think she's just kind of, like, lost it all, but, like, is with.

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If I remember, she's.

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No, she's without the little baby. Right?

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Yeah. We can just, At that point, Dina takes against.

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And this is real big spoiler. Dina takes the baby and leaves the house because she decides to go kill Abby.

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Yeah. And, she's like, then when you come back, we're not gonna be here.

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And that's exact what happens. Yeah. So I think I rather see that relationship.

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Or maybe, like Ellie popping in if we ever had The Last of Us three.

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But, I'm pretty excited to see Abby

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and after Joel situation, with a series.

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But I think that's gonna be like a part two for season four.

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Season three? I can't imagine them doing the Joel thing two.

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Or like, I think that truly has to be. Which is funny because when you play, when you, you know, the the second game

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that happens so early in so much of the second game is actually going to Seattle

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and being in Seattle doing all the Seattle stuff.

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So to think that they're going to somehow stretch this game into two parts.

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And the first part, which is maybe the first 20% of the game,

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is the first half of the story that they're gonna be telling is pretty wild to me, you know?

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So they talk that the moose and stuff around, I think they're going to move a lot of the wolf storyline that,

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I think it's Jeffrey Dean Morgan. No. Who's the actor who's playing? I can't remember her name.

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They're gonna have a lot of that wolf storyline. They're going to move a lot of that from the Washington area into our story here,

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and kind of get us introduced to the other characters

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that are going to be a bigger problem for Abby, you know, in the future.

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Really? Yeah, yeah. Jeffrey Wright, that's Jeffrey Wright.

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Thank you. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

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Because but it also seems like now that they're showing the giraffes to.

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Right. Like we, we saw last season, Joe and Ellie,

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they see the drops into the sign of like, oh peace.

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Look at these amazing things. And now they've flipped it around, right?

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Like the giraffes near Abby's dad's headstone is like a terrible thing

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for her, right? It's like this terrible omen. It seems like they're probably

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just going to stretch out more of her behind the scenes to write, like,

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yeah, there's just so much more they can do with that five year time jump.

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It's like, you probably can have at least Pedro Pascal around a lot more in flashbacks,

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or just kind of showing a lot more set up for when The thing with Abby goes down.

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It's weird because it looks like they kind of pushed for real fast

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for Abby, because it takes a while for her and her crew,

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who their fireflies become, wolves and then eventually fireflies again.

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But they take over the mansion kind of a little bit further in.

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And right now we saw them in this at the mansion.

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So it's like, okay, so you guys could do that storyline

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very quickly if you wanted to, but I think they're going to milk it somehow.

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It'll be fun to see. Now if they were to follow the pacing of the game, do you think that would upset

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more mainstream fans who don't play the video game?

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That's tough, I think. I don't know. I don't think so, because I

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the way I see it is that I hope we don't get the fillers

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because of what they want to do with the part one and part two,

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and that's just going to drag along. Like if we already got the first episode and it was kind of like lackluster.

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How many fillers are going to do to, to make this last the two parts?

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Right. I mean, kind of give people what they want, right?

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Every time we watch Game of Thrones, we're all ready for like bang, bang, bang.

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Something that happened like that, it gets us excited.

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And when you have like one of these dollar episodes

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and they're like, damn, I gotta wait another week now for the next one.

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Like, what the hell? So hopefully that's not I think, you know, it'll keep the people in tune, right?

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I mean, the first episode of the the first season.

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Right? I if I remember right, the daughter did die right?

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So we're locked in and nothing really happened to this for this episode.

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So keep me locked in. So I think, I think that it's kind of important to have to have to happen.

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Yeah. Like we had the stalker part where she falls through and then the,

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the other craziest thing was the, the firework near the drain.

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And then you could see the cordyceps coming through the drain.

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And then it was like, and then the episode ends and you're like, oh, okay, that's bad.

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But like. That's what do I believe? Oh yeah. I don't recognize that.

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Yeah. So yeah, I don't know how it goes in the game,

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but that seems like a way that I like I don't know how the cordyceps tells

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what's around, but that already seems like you have like

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a spy camera in the in cabinet, right.

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Like, you know, like, I don't know, that'd.

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Be somewhere, you know. Fungus be peeking on.

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Yeah. The atmosphere looks good. The tone was good. The pacing needs to speed up a little bit,

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but I think we're off to a really good start, frankly.

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And, I think I think there's going to be something

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extra for the people who play the video games and for the people who didn't are in for a hell of a good story.

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Yeah. I think they picked the right actor for Abby, because Abby,

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of course, becomes far more important as the show will go on.

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I do feel like you got to be a little bit stronger, girl, but.

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But that's okay. I mean, Abby is freaking buff.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe she'll bulk up as the season goes on, you know, like it's.

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She joins up with the wolves. They got a weight room.

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You know, she just starts like. There's some leftover muscle. Milk.

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She just starts throw her dead. Weight training on Tuesday and Thursday. Abby. Let's go.

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We're gonna be reviewing this every week. Overall challenge. Except you guys. If you guys want to join us over there.

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Matter of fact, we already reviewed it this week as well.

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It's out now. Yeah. Go check it out, guys. Immediate reaction.

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So we watched the show then a record and we get our minds blown.

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So join us over there. Yeah. Next week we talked about South by Midnight and squeaks.

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You played this game and you were very blown away by this very much.

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Yeah. So Franks put me on the spot right now to give a review on South of Midnight,

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which I thought I did an article I wrote, but never mind then.

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So let's talk. About well, that's the article feed us buddy.

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So everything you said in the article now say it out that.

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So yeah. So, one thing that I've also mentioned that it's been a very long time

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and I, and I go back to like, probably God of, War

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Ragnarok to where I've been so locked into a single player story.

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Only game. I was really excited for this game to come out when I saw

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just the animation of it. The animation obviously was seen as a stop motion capture, and sometimes we get a lot of it.

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And, a majority of the time it's in facial features for sure.

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You do get a little snippets of like, body motion, but sometimes it's a little too smooth.

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But the facial features are what really keeps it like, keep that stop

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animation continuing.

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What I really, this takes place like, Southern America, like Mississippi type feels.

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Yeah. Which I really love that. Yeah.

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I really love that. That atmosphere.

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Basically, you're following a girl named Hazel.

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There's this big storm one night, and then, it floods away her house, and her mom happens to be in this house.

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But during that flood, the house is going down the river.

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And next thing you know, there's, like, this big monster trying to attack it.

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So what this game is really like in Twining is this southern

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feel, bluegrass feel on top of, like, old folklore.

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So if you think about it like, I'm being narrated by a talking catfish,

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which is like happens to be my companion that I ride on, but it's just.

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It's like it's so magical, right?

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Yeah. So there might. You got a word too?

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Because, like, one of my favorite parts about God of War is having the talking

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head behind you to tell you stories about ancient Greece and stuff like that.

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Yeah, yeah, it's. Norse mythology, mythologies.

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And I was just like, I'm rowing the boat to, like, take better stuff, you know?

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So it's great. So the overall arc is right.

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You're getting your mom back. Where is your mom at? And, it seems like your mom's been somewhat captured

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of what I like to call him, I think is how you say this.

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Or, like, rocks. Rocks. I don't know, I'm saying that wrong.

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I think there's an accent to it, but he's kind of like the doctor.

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Facilier, tall, skinny, and he doesn't look as strong.

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But what's cool is that along this journey is that he seems to be the pimp.

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But then there's all these monsters that are, like, bigger and more, fearsome looking.

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But at the same time, you're entwining.

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I guess you could say these, monsters like stories.

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Yeah. And, man, they're so tragic, and I so, like I say, this tragic

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and beautiful all at the same time. Yeah.

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For example, one of them was, two brothers.

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Okay. And, one brother was just born differently.

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And then he'd get made fun of and stuff. But the brother that, you know, was no more normal,

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didn't have any issues, was tired of it and tired of dealing with it.

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So he actually put his the brother in a tree, nailed him into it,

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like, blocked, barricaded him into the tree.

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And so many years later, he grows into the tree.

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And now he's kind of just, like, stuck there.

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And then you actually kind of help, like, to on that story and then, like, help him out a little bit.

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But there's so, like, all of these other stories that are just like,

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man, it's so depressing, but, it it's

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it's just beautifully told at the same time.

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Now, are these the kind of stories that are kind of like, told around the campfire in the South?

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Is that what you're kind of getting from? So there are, yeah, essentially.

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So there are like some folklore, to it. One of them, I think is,

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gosh, I forgot the name, like, hanging Molly or something like that,

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where essentially it's just like, oh yeah, that'll get it right

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or something like that. Yeah, I've heard of that. Okay. Yeah yeah yeah, yeah.

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So basically like, they have it where she takes children and like kind of kills like,

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you know, adults or whatever for some reasons.

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And always leaves like these webs behind.

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So you're figuring that story out. You're like, man, screw this like monster, right?

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Like you're killing all the children. Now, essentially, she's rescuing children from, like, really bad.

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Yeah. Yeah. Upbringings.

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So you're each chapter is like this, like, really, awesome story.

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But you're just trying to get to this over barking story of trying to get

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your mother back. One of the things I want to add in is the studio sent down

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a bunch of researchers to go, learn more about the southern, gothic folklore.

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And one of the keys that they wanted to bring in is for an esthetic

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where the bottles that you put on trees, they have souls and.

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Exactly. Yeah. How was that as a gameplay mechanic?

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Yeah. So what? That's not so much of a mechanic when it comes to the bottle.

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The bottle is essentially of you capturing these, stories.

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Like each story has like 3 to 4, like,

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you explore a little bit and then you kind of learn more of that story,

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and you're capturing that story into the bottle to unlock, like, okay, here's the boss fight.

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But yeah, that was like, it's so crazy how much that it actually does seem

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like you said, right, that he didn't put into the game.

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But yeah, that's, that's essentially that.

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But now gone to like, the combat

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and rhythm of everything.

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It's very much, predictable when there's going to be a situation.

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We talked about this earlier over like, hey, here's your area.

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And, Cards hanging out over here. Yeah. There's a health. Yeah.

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This whole wide open. Area, like.

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Okay. Yeah. And then the boss fight happens. So it's not like, smooth as, like if you were playing,

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I don't know, I'm just thinking, like, don't make the monsters just kind of pop out, right?

19:50

So that's kind of, like, too predictable after a while.

19:53

It gets kind of like, okay, I've done this before. Repetitive. Yeah, exactly.

19:57

I hate using that word because I feel like every game is repetitive.

20:00

But you. Used unwind three times, so, you know, what the hell.

20:05

Because. She does have, like, what do you call like, a spool or like, yeah.

20:09

All the battle. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. It's like she's throwing up.

20:12

Almost like spider like magic. Spider webs are like. Exactly, exactly like. That's pretty cool. So, but yeah.

20:17

So that part is kind of like, okay, well, I know it's coming.

20:19

There's nothing surprising here. So that gets kind of, like, boring.

20:22

But the fighting's fine. I have no issues with it. Really? The combats totally fine.

20:26

You get the spells and you get, the more you, like,

20:28

uncover of, like, a specific currency in the game.

20:31

But you don't get so much in combat. But you do get a lot of exploration,

20:34

which is kind of simple to like, hey, I'm being told to go right.

20:38

If I go left, I'll find a little bit more of that currency.

20:41

You know, that's not too hard. Do you feel okay?

20:44

So this is for your other game, which I think is pretty fair for first outing.

20:47

Do you feel like this is a first outing for a new franchise

20:50

for Xbox to explore further into it? Oh man.

20:53

If it's not so much so based on this story, I would love to see.

20:56

Like if they explore other folklore as like within the like states or wherever, that would.

20:59

Be Assassin's Creed style. Like next we're gonna go to see the Greek.

21:02

Birch. Would be so not, you know, I say Greek, but actually, I don't know.

21:07

I mean, find the ones that are less explored, like we saw the Southern Gothic style.

21:10

Yeah. And then we different, And that'd be sweet.

21:12

I mean, I, I've said it already in my article, like, Xbox.

21:15

Seems like they're getting that list of exclusives. That's we've been waiting for since day one.

21:19

And yes, this is definitely one to check out.

21:21

I mean, with right before this I was playing Indiana Jones.

21:24

That's exclusive obviously, as well as Xbox. And and it just seems like

21:28

am I actually playing more here now and then on my PlayStation, which is

21:32

it's just hard to say sometimes.

21:34

Yeah. I, I actually am to as well, just because I think it's the controller for me.

21:38

Like I actually I literally got a game.

21:40

It was the Valhalla that I was playing on PlayStation.

21:43

Like I'm going to get on the Xbox is I like the controller better.

21:45

And I have, sure enough, played a lot more. Yeah. So yeah, one last thing.

21:48

I'll say about it though, with the combat, the soundtrack is awesome.

21:52

Every song that pops, as you're like, either just, climbing on things

21:56

and exploring to even combat tailors to the story that you're currently in right now.

22:01

So, like the whole hanging Molly or whatever, whatever.

22:04

I just like you forgetting. Yeah, there's a song.

22:06

If you listen to the words closely, it's explaining like the story.

22:09

Some of my favorite parts is you eventually get to, like, a New Orleans

22:13

and it's more like, messed up, dimensional New Orleans where you're, you know,

22:17

like, different trailers of the street, everywhere you go, twist into things.

22:21

It's playing jazz as you're defeating these monsters,

22:25

and once you finish that fight, it just kind of closes out that song.

22:28

But it's so, like, fluid, like there's no interruptions or anything

22:31

like, man, oh, I'm getting down to jazz like a demon.

22:35

I'm telling you right now, you are selling the shit is good.

22:37

I know it's so, so like I'm so I watch a.

22:41

Lot of TikToks on that, too, man. Yeah, it looks, gorgeous. Yeah.

22:45

So says Nelson. I was like, oh, that looks like it seemed gimmicky because the stop motion thing.

22:48

Yeah. But then it's one of those things where, okay, as you were playing it.

22:51

No, it's actually got really good solid foundation for a game, maybe a future.

22:55

Franchise. Yeah. No. Yeah. And that's that.

22:58

I mean, there's really almost nothing near nothing negative

23:02

I have to say about this game. It's. Yeah. Crazy how it's attached to me so much.

23:07

Yeah. Yeah. I've heard that quote I think you said like there hasn't been a game in years.

23:11

It's got you're so much attached to the story. Never a lot of people seem to be resonating with that as well.

23:15

South by Midnight, guys. Check it out. Squeaks wrote an entire article on our website.

23:18

It's a really good article. Talks about Hazel and her journey and whatnot.

23:21

So give that a gander. You'll.

23:28

Let's get into some of the news. Let's jump right to the Harry Potter casting. Now.

23:32

Finally, we got some casting confirmed the Harry Potter series.

23:35

I'm going to go over these and I want your reactions, please,

23:37

because I know you are the Harry Potter head here. Yeah. By the way, guys, I got butterbeer, everything.

23:41

Now the. Kisses are. All over the body.

23:43

Do you try the butterbeer cookies yet?

23:46

Oh, it's like I don't I don't. No no. No no no those are good.

23:49

Ones man. No. Yeah. The ghosted. Yeah. The goldfish crackers have butter beer.

23:53

Barman. You have now okay, okay. I was just thinking of fish with the buddy beer.

23:58

And I'm like, yeah. I don't know about.

24:00

Those fish. Don't know what they they have also like the Keebler elf cookies,

24:05

whatever that are. Butter beer. Yeah. That's like, okay, you can only have a couple of these before

24:07

you're like your blood, your sugar content.

24:09

And two things in that one. Yeah, yeah. They do an elf version of that too with the goldfish.

24:14

God, those are so good. They're like little maple cookie things, man.

24:17

There's a delicious. All right, so let's get into, Harry Potter series casting. So

24:22

to the last year of the new ones, John Lithgow is going to be, the Hogwarts headmaster.

24:26

Double, Dumbledore. Janet McTeer is going to be McGonagall.

24:29

Paapa Essiedu is going to be serving Snape.

24:31

Nick Frost will be Hagrid. Now here's the two new ones.

24:33

Luke Fallon will be Professor Quill, which I moral.

24:36

I think it is. I hate that dude. And then Paul Whitehouse is going to be Filch, the guy who's,

24:40

constantly mopping with his cat. So squeaks is it any casting here that you're super excited for?

24:46

I think Nick Frost playing Hagrid. I think it's really good. Do you. Think?

24:48

Not at all. I don't give a shit about the series. So no, no, I do like Nick Frost.

24:54

So we talked about it before where he played in this like British comedy where he had the long beard.

24:58

I think it was the last podcast and it's like, wow, that's Hagrid, right?

25:01

But there are some long hair on it and I think that's perfect.

25:04

So when it comes to like near perfect casting, I think that's the one.

25:08

But honestly, yeah, I have no feelings towards the show.

25:11

This is the one Harry Potter thing, I think, in my whole life that I'm not excited for.

25:15

I wish we were. And I'll say it again, getting the cursed child

25:18

like there's no reason why we can't get a series of The Cursed Child. Why?

25:22

You know what? I was just talking about this. I'm on a movie marathon, and that movie marathon I'm doing right now is Twilight.

25:26

Because it's been a while. Okay, so I just finished.

25:29

The first time you go, I'm on the right episode.

25:32

Oh, my. Wife makes me watch it every Halloween.

25:35

All freaking whatever it is. Six, seven movies.

25:38

Six of the last movie I think was pretty good.

25:41

I'll go to the Lord of the rings, you know, Star Wars or whatever.

25:44

And it's been a while since I did Twilight. Boom.

25:46

So, yeah. So then we're watching Twilight, and I'm like, you know what pisses me off

25:50

is that the redoing the Harry Potter, movies into a series

25:53

and why it pisses me off because that shit was near perfect

25:56

and it didn't need to be done. What needs to be done is a curse of the child.

25:59

Okay. Give us. I should already know. Everybody's going to go watch it out for on a whole day play

26:02

or a two day play of it. Damn. It's. Here's my question for you, squeaks.

26:07

If you were in Hogwarts, if they were casting you for the show

26:09

and you're like, okay, fine, I'll. Who are you gonna be playing?

26:12

Look at this.

26:15

Oh my God, how badly do I want to say her money? But,

26:20

You would make a very cute her mind. Me, I will say. Oh, man.

26:26

Honestly. Oh my God. Probably some loser.

26:32

Man, you know, I'll probably be, one of the, Draco's, like, dummies, right?

26:35

What are the guys? Oh, yeah. Like one of those lackeys that are behind the.

26:38

Whole time shooting. What's. Yeah,

26:42

I if I get me into a real role, I'd.

26:45

Want to run one of those taverns. If the kids go to, like, during Christmas break or whatever,

26:49

and you're just got, like, a magical bar that you're just constantly I.

26:52

To me, that seems like the dream gig. I always, like, go to West.

26:54

Yeah, I want to run the bar in the Old West.

26:56

And then same thing goes for the magical world to have, like magic shots.

27:00

I'm totally down for getting kids drunk. Yeah, I mean, forget that I said that, but.

27:04

You know. Yeah, it's. No, you know, you. Know what I got?

27:08

I got kind of maybe a counter opinion on this. Yes.

27:11

I only because I went to, you know, my wife and I went on a trip

27:15

to England this past December and because she wanted a Harry

27:19

Potter Christmas, like she's the potter head in our house.

27:22

And yeah, we did. We went to Universal.

27:25

But like seeing how much Harry Potter is a part of that culture

27:29

and how much people love it there and stuff

27:31

and like seeing little kids around and everything, like it's still perfect.

27:35

Just don't get me wrong, I almost feel like it does. I agree with you.

27:38

But I also see why they're kind of doing it, because there's

27:41

all these little kids like, you know, that's not that is their Harry Potter.

27:45

But they could also have a Harry Potter. That's no, no. No fuck that.

27:48

And it's like, no. No, they need to watch Potter okay.

27:53

No, no I. Think she's for me with Star Wars.

27:55

Yeah. It's like me with star is like, you never need to redo Star Wars.

27:58

But I kind of understand why they're doing it in a sense,

28:01

just because, like, it's such a big thing there.

28:04

It needs like a resurgence

28:06

some way in the the homeland where it's built, you know what I mean?

28:10

Like, yeah. And they have Paddington and Harry Potter. Yeah.

28:13

Well that's the next generation. It's going to find their love for the Harry Potter series, right?

28:16

Yeah. It might sickness to think this, but they're

28:19

there's a lot of kids that are born that are moviegoers

28:21

right now that are born after the Harry Potter series is done.

28:24

Yes. Yeah. You know, they're gonna need to go to. Movies to that.

28:27

My kids are watching this. Okay, well, I know, right?

28:31

But you're. Right. So, like, of. Course I watched a lot of 70s movies when I was a kid because my parents

28:35

not like the original West. Well, just perfect. Why would you need to do anything else?

28:39

But, you know, in reflection, it's like I was pretty unique in that sense.

28:42

Most people are watching what's coming out today, you know?

28:45

And, yeah, I think I think that's true. I think we do need a new generation.

28:49

But I will admit, the first movie is perfect. I there's no reason to change it in that sense.

28:53

They're perfect. Yeah, yeah yeah, yeah. No.

28:55

Can I imagine since Thomas, you know.

28:58

You know, I kind of. We agreed on like, Twilight, you know. Right.

29:01

Okay. I'm just like. Now that's like watching the first one.

29:06

I think I had to look it up. I was like, when did this come out?

29:08

And it was 2008, and I was like, man, the early 2000s or so 90s watching that movie, I'm like, Holy shit.

29:14

Now that like, so many years later, right? Yeah.

29:16

That thing can use for action.

29:18

Okay. Right. Okay. But I don't remember it being this my wife about that.

29:23

Yeah. I completely agree with you. I mean, if I asked my wife about it, she'd be like, no, never redo them again.

29:28

Yeah. But to me it's like, no, they need they need updated dialog.

29:31

They need like, I don't need like Edward to look like he smells a fart when Bella walks in.

29:36

I need him to really dramatic scene.

29:39

Know you said that right?

29:41

Exactly, exactly. Well, I think to say the entire movie.

29:45

Oh, God. Oh, God damn. That first Harry Potter movie.

29:48

Though, I think while it does seem like there's something about

29:50

when those doors open up and you see the floating candles. Oh my God, yeah.

29:53

John Williams it is cinnamon.

29:55

Yeah, but like the troll that breaks in like, that thing was bad.

29:59

CGI for the day is terrible CGI now.

30:01

It's a cartoon now. So there are a lot of elements that could use a refresh.

30:06

And I wonder, is there any dialog that I could think? I can't think of any dialog that was bad.

30:09

I know no books. He spends a lot more time with his aunt and uncle before Hogwarts happens,

30:13

and apparently they're going to step closer to the book, so is probably gonna happen this time to talk about a slow couple episodes.

30:19

Harry Potter not at Hogwarts sucks.

30:22

You know? So yeah, yeah, it's gonna be so. Yeah.

30:25

And like you said, they're tailoring it to the books there. We're going to see some characters

30:28

that were in the books that's not in there. In the movie.

30:30

That should have been, I think were originally done for the movie.

30:33

Like there's another goes, I forget the name, that did all the, there was a big ordeal about it

30:37

that he did all the film for it, and then they just took him out.

30:40

So we'll see, like characters we haven't seen before,

30:42

and then we'll get additional Quidditch matches, which were in the book that were not in the show.

30:46

So I like that idea. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

30:49

That's pretty. Cool. Especially Quidditch would like today. CGI would look very good.

30:52

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good point.

30:55

Yeah. All right. Thomas, we didn't hear from you. Who would you be if you're to join the Harry Potter series?

31:01

Yeah. I was also thinking I'll just be one of Draco's minions or, you know, I'll be Draco.

31:07

Then that's what do you let me just.

31:10

Sounds good, master. There we go.

31:13

Marvel rivals season two kicked off this week.

31:16

We got a new hero, Emma hero, Emma Frost.

31:18

She's the vanguard. We've got Hellfire gala and Krakoa is their rake reset.

31:23

And I'm stuck in hell being squeaks and,

31:26

but you performance based checks and stuff like that.

31:29

Yes. All kinds of fun stuff happening.

31:31

Just squeaks. I know you hate this game, but I want to go to Thomas. Thomas.

31:34

You haven't played it yet. What from season two are you most hyped about?

31:38

Yeah, I mean, I, I really do just want to try a new Vanguard.

31:41

I think that was such a smart move. Making her Vanguard like they could have easily made her a duelist.

31:46

They could have easily made her strategist, but like the Vanguard was pretty unique choice.

31:50

And I think it's kind of awesome. Obviously everybody's

31:53

standing in line right now to get chokeslam, so that's kind of fun.

31:56

And yeah, they just somebody dies.

31:58

Exactly. Just keep bringing in Marvel baddies.

32:02

So it's just fun. You know I'm a giant X-Men fan.

32:05

I love, love the Hellfire Gala.

32:07

If you go back to the Krakoa era

32:10

right at the end of it, that last Hellfire gala is absolutely wild.

32:14

So to kind of change in the bad guy from that to Ultron, I think is pretty unique.

32:20

It's something I almost just want them to do a what if issue of that,

32:24

because that would be epic. But yeah, just the setting, man.

32:27

It just seems so cool. I'm about it.

32:29

They do have the rivals comic book. I wish it stuck more I do, I wish it filled in more of the.

32:33

Book actually just by two of those issues, because, just the cover variants.

32:36

Yeah, yeah. Pretty.

32:38

Wild. Yeah. I think it was a good move for her to be a vanguard.

32:41

The only problem is I am always fighting against her.

32:43

And you know how, like, video games have to be very careful with, like, visual.

32:47

What's it called? Basically visual messaging.

32:49

It has to be as fast as possible, like under a second.

32:51

And she looks so much like cloak and dagger and like Invisible Woman

32:55

because the blond, white, white and blue clothes.

32:59

Yeah. I continuously think she's a healer. And then also I'm like, man, her health does not go now.

33:03

Oh that's right. It's, she's that a year.

33:05

Oh, so I'm having a hard time sometimes fight facing her because of that.

33:08

But, screen shots tend to be pretty good with her. What do you think about her?

33:10

Yeah, no, I'm really digging her, like, I think it's sometimes,

33:13

like, her charging of her, beam is a little slow, so I'm constantly like,

33:17

okay, that's my main focus because that's when I start putting real damage in.

33:20

Yeah. But then, like, really placements of the of the shield, I'm starting to become

33:24

really more, selfish with the shield where I'm only using it for myself.

33:28

And I think that's kind of like where, you know, that's very

33:31

fine. That's a good thing. Yeah. It's been the right thing to do. I at first I was putting it out there to kind of shield like a general,

33:36

but it's a small shield. So I'm like, okay, let me take this in for myself.

33:39

I like her a lot. She's, one where almost like the thing he, like, he got me interested in,

33:44

but, where I just instantly tried for the first time, I was like, you know what?

33:47

I could really invest some time in this character. I really love this character.

33:50

So with. And I'm always playing Vanguard. Really?

33:53

Anyway, so since cap, this has been my

33:56

my number two now might be number one eventually, but yeah.

33:59

Oh, yeah. I think her damage might be a little over tuned.

34:01

I am seeing people carry the teams pretty easily with her,

34:04

but I don't think it's a problem we had with the thing.

34:06

I think maybe turning down her damage a little bit, maybe increasing her health

34:09

would probably be better for everybody else.

34:11

But, as somebody who's fighting against her constantly, she's definitely more noticeable on the battlefield. And I think the thing.

34:16

Yeah, especially as somebody who plays I my two mains right now.

34:20

Well, three main tactical is cloak and dagger, Scarlet Witch and Namor.

34:23

If it's a thing, I'll just smoke that dude. He's no big deal.

34:26

But for her, she's really having to change my strategy quite a bit.

34:29

Yeah, yeah, yeah, especially that diamond form. And then you're talking damage to

34:32

right where you go, like pull essentially like a diamond out of them to deal with that damage, make that explode.

34:37

And it does that additional damage on top of them as well.

34:40

Yeah. So yeah she's going great. Yeah.

34:43

Okay. And people who already in the higher you lows those jerks,

34:45

what they're doing with her is they're putting her shield out behind

34:48

like in the middle of the team because it it cuts the healers off from the rest of the team and.

34:52

Oh Jesus. Yeah.

34:54

And then also that you just show off for the healers and it's like oh that's too strong.

34:58

So when like doctor she just force it, put the shield in front of him.

35:01

She can move that shield out. Right. So she can then split the team in half and healers are always in the back.

35:05

So then suddenly you just shut everybody off the two and you can take out

35:08

you're the push it slow. I haven't seen that one I saw.

35:11

Is it her old? That kind of traps everybody in it in a sense.

35:14

Like it'll kind of hit everybody at one time.

35:16

Yeah. Oh, man. Yeah. I saw like the, like one of the dopest clips.

35:19

Somebody was doing that. And then around the corner, a Scarlet Witch started their ult,

35:24

swung around the corner while everybody was trapped and just wiped the team.

35:27

I'm like, God, that is such a good.

35:30

Like she's adding some queen. To that exact thing.

35:33

So she's I hate it.

35:36

She's just like you. Like you like you're just walking towards. You're like you're zombie. Then also you're like.

35:40

Screaming for the demons.

35:42

Okay, so just very good.

35:44

Like, yeah, I'm not good at this. And that's the thing too, is because of all the reworks going on,

35:48

there are Scarlet Witch in every single match now because she's a little too much damage.

35:52

And, it's. I played it back when she sucked. Yeah.

35:55

And now everybody's played it and it's like, come down guys.

35:58

It's you know they're going to do it for quick the way. They put them in their placement. Permanent place.

36:03

So kind of putting you all in the spot right now. So Frankie, you brought a good idea because we were talking about characters,

36:07

and I was like, man, the only time I want to be a DPS is when that daredevil drops.

36:11

But you said something that kind of, like, really got me going.

36:13

Was that the really, reaching into the bag of who they're, gathering for?

36:17

Because who would ever thought, like Emma Frost was going to be one?

36:20

It's barely even Emma Frost like comics on the shelf, right?

36:23

I mean, there's one that I believe coming out in June, but mostly the times that you see them frost going to be featured in things.

36:28

So who's one character that, you know, you got to look way in the back

36:32

that you would want to see in the Marvel Rivals. And then just to give you a second, because being in the spot

36:36

I was thinking of, if I'm seeing this wrong, it's

36:38

been a while since I even like said this character's name, but is a death striker, right?

36:43

Who's the female with the law strike?

36:45

Yeah, yeah, but it's a death strike. Yeah.

36:47

Lady destroying random fingernails, basically.

36:50

Yeah, yeah, I was thinking of her. I think she'd be pretty cool

36:53

if you're trying to, like, really reach for her and save, like, those Avengers characters, I think it should be really cool to see.

36:57

That'd be sick to see. Know what she. Would use, obviously.

36:59

Yeah, I don't know. I mean, she. Could be like a part.

37:03

I can, you know, think of, but. Yeah. Yeah. Who do you who you think I have.

37:06

I got two obvious ones. They're not deep cuts by any means but. Okay. Yeah. Okay.

37:10

One I've even seen people make like, the, whatever, like the attack sheet.

37:16

But obviously for me, I'm a giant Cyclops fan.

37:18

I want Cyclops. Yeah. I wouldn't mind him using his blast.

37:22

Also move around. So like if you instead of like a normal double jump, you could just blast up.

37:27

So it's like regular jump shoots down blast up.

37:30

Or also like he has a slam down with the blast.

37:33

He can ricochet. I think that would be sick. He could bounce off other people's shield.

37:37

Like there's so much you could do with him.

37:40

So I don't know if you make him a Vanguard, he probably be a duelist.

37:43

So that have number one. But one game? I don't know, man, because he's like a leader.

37:46

I could feel him just leading the charge. Yeah, but I don't. I don't know if he has, like, the health, the stats,

37:50

but I don't know, maybe they can make it work.

37:52

And then the other one, which I've never seen a game do it.

37:55

I've still wanted to see this. I was hoping they would do it in the old Marvel Avengers game.

37:59

Quicksilver. I want a game to do, like a real speedster,

38:04

where they have super low health, but like, they're almost untouchable.

38:07

Kind of like what Spider-Man is, I guess. Yeah, but just like, I.

38:10

Can see them. Doing like, a tracer, right? Tracer?

38:13

Like making sure they speed in and then they can speed back up.

38:16

Yeah, I'm kind of fun to quicksilver.

38:18

I don't think you're too far on that Cyclops one, because the way they're doing this, like this season's battle

38:23

pass, is a lot of yellow and blue out there or some cosmetics.

38:27

I mean, let's go. Come on. In the comic book, in the new issue, comic book, two Jubilees.

38:31

Yeah. With, Hellfire gala costumes.

38:33

It's like, so, you know. So. Yeah. Yeah.

38:36

My moon girl and devil saw, Devil dinosaur. Wow.

38:40

Wow. Because he. Okay. Yeah. And I would want, like, Moon Girl to be maybe a healer, possibly damage,

38:45

but then like, you transition to devil, sort of do some tanking

38:48

and you're constantly like I do cloak and dagger that way. Like, it's constantly jumping back for damage and healing.

38:52

So do something similar that where you're constantly bouncing between who's got the frontline of the two of.

38:56

Them, and they're just like, open up a whole nother thing.

38:59

Now can you wait? I think he was ready for this secretly.

39:02

Like, yeah, he's. Making his wish list.

39:04

All right. I know I. Right next to his monitor.

39:07

Think. About, like, all the awesome skins that you'd have with the devil,

39:10

the devil goddess. Or, like, it'd be sick. Like it'd be crazy.

39:12

You can do them just a full on, like, doctor Grant and like, T-Rex

39:16

and Jurassic Park. I would say no to that.

39:19

That'd be epic. Yeah, that I see. Yeah.

39:21

Do menorah from the Runaways two.

39:23

Now that you got me thinking about runaways have, like, that one guy, and it has a dinosaur, too.

39:27

That's why, man, they could they could do a ton with those characters.

39:30

Man. There's it's endless. They brought a magic.

39:32

They could do anything like, without thinking. Like with magic, you have all the the people that were with her

39:36

with that wolf girl or whatever, like, oh.

39:38

It's. Been duplicate stuff. Wolfsbane. Yeah, that'd be fun.

39:41

Once you like, you transition into a wolf and do more damage

39:43

or something like that for a limited time. Man.

39:45

All right, guys, let us know if you're playing Marvel Rivals.

39:48

We always need people, especially if you're a tank. Any tanks?

39:51

And was it not just. Captain America where he wants a specific tank?

39:54

Guys, don't don't listen to him. He wants a whole.

39:56

You're not all he don't want to. Give me whole.

39:59

And then I can. Play name and carry your ass. Yeah. You want assist?

40:03

I'll do the rest. You can literally stand in the back with Hulk.

40:05

And I will do enough to cry out to people. Please help me out.

40:14

All right, last thing. Before we get into our interview, let's talk about Andor season two.

40:17

That's coming out on the 22nd. Thank you for reminding me. Thomas.

40:20

So we're going to be talking a little bit about what happened in the last season,

40:23

what's happening in the next season, what we want to see

40:25

as we lead up to Rogue One. When's the last time you guys watched Andor season one?

40:31

I'm watching right now. I'm like, in the middle of it. Me too. Yeah.

40:34

Episode six release. So I.

40:37

Love memories. Pretty bad. So okay, so I'm going to touch on a couple things.

40:42

I'm going to touch on the first season real quick. So you guys get reminded of us are reminded of it.

40:45

And then I watched you guys reflect on your favorite parts. Okay. So first off, season one or episode one, Cassian accidentally kills

40:52

two guys outside of a bar there. The Pre-Mor security officers starts a problem,

40:57

and then we see that Cassian scrambles to take cover.

40:59

He's got this Imperial tag. He's trying to sell it off to, keep himself safe.

41:03

Luthen, rail arrives to Ferrix.

41:06

Ferrix. He's going to be buying this tech from him.

41:08

And we see that he's actually part of this upcoming rebellion.

41:14

Luthen ends up saving Cassian during that Pre-Mor raid.

41:17

And they escape Ferrix together, and then Luthen and that.

41:20

So everything is done in Andor by three episode chunks.

41:23

That's how the story arcs go. The next story arc starts. It's Aida, honey.

41:27

Luthen drops Cassian off, says your Clem. Now you're gonna be helping these guys out.

41:31

They prepare for this big raid on this.

41:33

What's it like? Payroll? Depot? Cash money? Yeah.

41:36

And everything's going wrong. And. Evan.

41:39

Evan. MOS Mac back, right is such a jerk. I forgot that he's show.

41:43

He's such an asshole. But he's right.

41:45

He is like, this seems all right. This guy.

41:47

Anyway, so they do the honey, heist, and,

41:51

generally it goes well, they do get away with it, but it basically is just Cassian, vel and Skeen.

41:54

They're going. Away. A couple people die, which is sad.

41:57

Yeah, yeah. Or whatever. Yes. Medic! They're like that guy.

42:01

Yeah. The news of the heist gives shockwaves.

42:04

Really tells everybody, hey, there's a rebellion starting to kick up.

42:06

The empire starts to tighten their control.

42:08

Cassian is sentenced to six years in a brutal imperial prison.

42:12

And we see that this, you know, this prison's very high ticket.

42:14

They're all building something. Tension rises in the prison.

42:17

Eventually it leads to a prison break, and, it's it's that's what my favorite part of the whole thing.

42:21

But we also see that what they were building was part of the Death Star.

42:24

And then on the last trio of episodes we have, Cassian leads a prison revolt.

42:28

Yeah, that's part of it. Yeah. So part of that. When Cassian learns

42:31

of his adoptive mothers, Omar was dead, so he's going to return.

42:35

And then, everyone convenes at the funeral to show their respect,

42:38

but also kind of begin the rebellion from this, from, Ferrix.

42:42

And then Cassian rescues Bix, who is, and confronts Luthen for his part

42:46

in all this. And, yeah, that's what we're at.

42:48

Basically, we're seeing that the Death Star is nearing completion, which is a big part of Rogue One.

42:52

So what is your guys favorite part of that first season of Andor?

42:58

Yeah, I would say I. Really like the idea in heist if I'm sitting out on the ice.

43:02

Yeah, it was kind of like the whole like that you're see, like, oh, man, this is really, like some badass Star Wars

43:06

I haven't seen in a while, but one thing and,

43:08

one thing that always sticks out to me is that prison break, right?

43:10

And then at the end, is I can't swim.

43:13

And I was like, you're wrecking me right now. And I'm. I am like, yeah, yeah, that shit to me.

43:17

Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, this is one of the better shows the Star Wars released.

43:22

I feel like, you know, and, Yeah, I'm looking for that season.

43:24

Look forward to that season two. Really? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. What about you?

43:30

Yeah. Of course. The the escape from the prison is one of the best scenes of, like, any show ever.

43:36

Just like you're like, oh, my God, you know, you don't think it's going to get too much crazier than the heist.

43:40

And then that whole segment goes on or those that arc and holy shit,

43:45

it just really pops off. But one thing that always sticks out to me and I always think

43:49

about, like, I fight for a sunrise I'll never see.

43:53

I'll fight for, you know, like, you know.

43:55

All that kind of stuff. Like that speech from Luthen always, like, just rings in my head.

44:00

Like, if I want to get fired up, I'll just listen to that.

44:02

Do I hear what I said?

44:05

Everything you know is just. Like, so good.

44:08

So that's one of my other favorite parts.

44:10

I mean, the dialog is just so good. And also just kind of shows like dialog for starters, no peak.

44:16

Tony Gilroy, shout out. He just crushed it.

44:18

I mean, you know, is credited as like the saved savior of Rogue One.

44:24

And I think what he does with this series just kind of shows

44:26

like why he's such a legend and why Star Wars needs him.

44:30

But, yeah, I just think the casting was really on point and it made me

44:33

care, truly care about a show that did not have lightsabers.

44:37

Yeah, it's not like one of the things it's like we need lightsabers all the time.

44:39

It's like, no, this is the show that proves it.

44:42

There's other shows that say. That and they're not missing.

44:44

By the way, I want to throw that out there because if sometimes you're like, man,

44:46

come on, let's ever get in on this,

44:48

you could forget lightsabers exist in this world. With this show, I love that. Yeah.

44:52

It is. Yeah, exactly. And yeah, just so, well, acting.

44:55

I like everybody, even people that, you know, are kind of bad.

44:59

You kind of feel sympathetic for him, like zero

45:02

like serials and piece of shit in the beginning. But then you see how his mom treats him and then how he has like this low

45:07

job and like, nobody cares about him. But he's still determined to prove himself.

45:11

It's like you kind of want to see him get his comeuppance even though he's a dick.

45:15

So it's just really, I think it's just really good writing.

45:18

Through his eyes and through Luthen and through man.

45:20

Martha. Martha. Martha. No, I'm saying that wrong. For.

45:24

Thank you. You see more of of the Empire side of things that we haven't seen in the movies.

45:29

I think that the movies are just the big bad and the left to that, to that plot point.

45:34

But here you actually see, like, just people who live in these cities and

45:37

course out, they have different varying abilities and tasks and stuff like that.

45:41

And the Empire is a machine that feeds many.

45:44

And so when you're going to blow it up, it needs to be for the right reason.

45:46

And that's why we also get on Ferrix where like, oh, there are atrocities happening.

45:50

And it's just because you're on the Outer Rim.

45:53

They're kind of forgotten. It's okay to kind of push it out there,

45:56

but we do need to put a spotlight on when these atrocities are happening.

45:58

And I think that, it does a really good job of like slowly building the tension

46:02

by the end, you're like, yeah, bring down the Empire.

46:04

In the beginning, you're like, well, it is a lot of the land.

46:06

There's kind of this grow within the actual show itself, you know?

46:10

Yeah. You know, like in the new series though, like in the new trilogies,

46:13

they tried to explain how the First Order will rise.

46:16

But I think this show does a way better job of showing how the rebellion would actually rise.

46:20

Like the the Empire is so confident, and they seem so confident even to people

46:25

who are on their inside. Like, we don't have to listen to you. You're too low rank.

46:28

Why would we listen to you about your hunch?

46:30

And then it kind of shows like why an empire would be able to rise to, which is a rebellion.

46:34

I mean, and it's like, really good.

46:37

Just so good. Like, it makes you care about, like, how did the rebellion start?

46:40

Oh, shit. This is this is crazy.

46:43

So it's good. Yeah. Looking at season two, which starts on the 22nd,

46:47

we're going to get 12 episodes again broken up, as three episode arcs.

46:53

And, it's going to be spanning four years. So we're going to get time jumps in between each of the three arcs.

46:57

We have a lot of returning people, but we're also getting more that are coming from Rogue One.

47:01

So at the start of Rogue One, the idea is that we're going to this mission to go,

47:05

you know, find the plans for the Death Star, a very pivotal moment for the original Star Wars trilogy.

47:10

Is there anything else that you want this story to tell

47:12

that might have been missing from Rogue One

47:14

that would help bolster the rebellion and help actually

47:17

kind of fill up some of that Star Wars, the original movie, storyline.

47:20

Is there anything you think of? That we got to make for me?

47:25

I know, I know, let me think. Yeah.

47:28

I got an idea. Like, just establishing certain bases.

47:31

So by the time we get to the original Star Wars trilogy, like,

47:34

we see that the rebellion has a mass, like all these weapons

47:37

and all these x-wings and all that, like, how did they do it?

47:40

Who who did they either build?

47:43

Like, who built that? Who did they source it from?

47:45

Like, we kind of in the books, we find out how the Empire did it with

47:49

the Death Star, with the Tie fighters, all that kind of stuff.

47:52

But like, how did the rebellion who had no money?

47:55

We see Mon Mothma struggling with it in season one.

47:58

So it's like, but how did they amass this large

48:01

battalion of like, weaponry and ships and all that stuff?

48:04

So I kind of hope this season two kind of shows more of that.

48:07

Yeah. I would say, like for what I would like to see is how like this whole, like, rebel

48:13

spy, network like put was put into place, like you were taught by, like what?

48:16

What's the stuff? But how like, operations would work.

48:18

Another thing is, obviously I'm a massive, like, Darkside Empire kind of guy

48:22

is, how the Death Star like, plans actually got in the position that it was

48:26

like how it was developed or what was the plans of going forward,

48:29

because we usually just see like, hey, here's the star, right?

48:31

I want to see like the beginning of that. So we see like, what if I remember right in the trailer, it looked like

48:36

it was in construction or was it already built using construction?

48:40

We're seeing we're seeing some construction happening in in.

48:42

Yeah, yeah. And then yeah. In Rogue One they go for the plans.

48:45

But I would like to see, to add to what you're saying, there is the intention

48:49

to make a weak spot in the Death Star so that the rebellion has a chance

48:53

because, that shaft that goes in the center of it, they blow the whole damn thing up.

48:56

That has to be implemented on purpose.

48:59

Like, that's that's something that the architects like. Yeah, I got an. Idea to help, you know, screw all of these people.

49:04

This is one of my favorite scenes in how I Met Your Mother.

49:06

It's like Ted, and I think it's Barney or Marshall

49:08

they're arguing about, like somebody had to intentionally put that in there.

49:12

They're like, no, it was poor planning.

49:14

So there's like a this whole argument that breaks out,

49:16

but like, yeah, maybe they will explain it in a, in a weird backwards

49:20

door or backdoor way in Andor, which I'm all for.

49:24

I think that'll be great. Yeah. Yeah.

49:26

I would love to see a larger plan in place for the Empire and the Death Star,

49:29

because I think the Death Star doesn't make sense on its own.

49:33

Like, okay, you're going to travel from planet to planet threat

49:36

and then blow up a couple of them, yada, yada, yada.

49:38

But if you were to make an armada of them, that makes more sense to me,

49:40

especially as a Star Trek fan in the In the Borg, it's same thing.

49:44

And so we see that the second Death Star is, you know, in construction

49:48

for the third movie, I want to see that there were many planned.

49:53

And so the then it shows some urgency to the original trilogy.

49:58

I'm like, oh, we have to destroy this first completed one, because there's a good 40

50:01

that are on the on the docket to be made after these ones.

50:03

And so if we don't show them that these are not a good idea,

50:06

they'll keep making them. And then when that all falls apart and the empire is collapsing,

50:11

then also you just have the remnants in the first order starting to happen.

50:14

You can see that there was already so much manufacturing going on in the world

50:17

that, yeah, if if the rebels took out the emperor, who cares?

50:20

There's all kinds of factories currently making death stars that now we're going to shift to protecting themselves.

50:24

It kind of makes sense that like it's a full factory machine working on a bunch of different things.

50:28

I don't know, there's something there to where I'm like,

50:31

it doesn't make sense to make one. Do I start? You should be making a bunch of them to really be an actual force.

50:35

Yeah. You know. I yeah, somewhere they do kind of mentioned it though,

50:39

where they talk about the money. So the reason why I think they're, there's.

50:43

Yeah like they are trying to make more I think because they only

50:46

pull up another one in another. So we should probably know this as you probably know, the third.

50:50

One they blow up the second Death Star. Yeah.

50:52

So I think it's either and and or something else.

50:55

They talk about how how much it costs.

50:58

And like that's the other thing that Andor kind of gets into the minutia of it.

51:02

It's like we don't think about them collecting taxes or money

51:06

or that's a given. Like Skeleton Crew kind of talks about it a little bit.

51:10

You know, it was like, well, you had all these old credits here, like, who's still minting these things,

51:14

you know? So like we, you know, it's kind of boring in a sense too.

51:18

But it is kind of interesting to think about, like,

51:21

how would you build a whole planet that's actually just a weapon.

51:24

So it. Yeah. Yeah, but I can I agree with you.

51:28

I think there probably is more plans though, to make a bunch of them.

51:32

Because in the first order they had that big weapon as well.

51:34

So it almost feels like the first order one was something that they like.

51:38

Oh, it's the destroyer 2.0. We're in development of that,

51:41

but it's so far out that that's when the first order is otherwise.

51:44

Like, how did you guys do that without anybody noticing, you know,

51:47

so there's there's a lot of holes that could definitely be filled in by this.

51:50

And any time that they try to improve the newer trilogy,

51:52

I'm always on board with that. That's what The Bad Batch, the great job with that. It's.

51:55

But it's the process. Yeah. All right guys.

51:59

So yeah, we're going to be covering every single episode of Andor.

52:02

I know many times are gonna be busy over a month.

52:04

Challenge accepted. So please join us and then we'll cover the premiere and the finale over here on screen as well.

52:10

So stay tuned with us, guys. Let's head over to our interview with Rich Davis, the writers

52:14

for Angel, entourage.

52:21

For today, I'm joined by Rich Davis of Angel Hunter, a brand new book coming out soon.

52:26

How are you doing, Rich? And I'm doing fantastic.

52:29

Thank you for asking. Of course.

52:31

Can you. Before we get too far, tell us a little bit about Angel Hunter.

52:35

Yeah. So Angel Hunter is a saint in manga inspired dark fantasy, set,

52:41

told in the American comic book style, it's about humanity's first strides

52:46

after being expelled from Eden, and they have to claw out an existence

52:50

in a world dominated by the 13 fallen angels and an army of kaiju, Nephilim.

52:56

Yes, that immediately tells you,

52:58

like late, 2000s awesome gritty movie that I'm like can't wait to watch it.

53:03

So sounds great. Kaiju Nephilim.

53:05

Those two words next to each other. Okay, I'm in.

53:08

What? Where did this idea of sparking you? What?

53:10

How did you get this idea? So it actually started as kind of, kind of a joke.

53:15

I was I just finished up issue two of Reign of Dracula,

53:19

and prior to that, just a few weeks before that, I had finished up,

53:23

Prometheus and Chains and Prometheus took everything out of me.

53:27

Man, it was the most difficult thing that I've ever written.

53:30

I mean, it just wiped me out.

53:33

And then trying to jump into Reign of Dracula, getting back into that horror world, I just had a hard time doing it.

53:38

I just, I, you know, I just didn't want to finish the, the book.

53:43

And so I, I did what I normally do, you know, I just wrote something else,

53:48

and I'd been watching the show called Goblin Slayer, on Crunchyroll.

53:51

Yeah. And, so I had this idea, and I did it, like,

53:55

I don't like two in the morning, laying in bed just typing in on my phone,

53:58

and I was like, I'm going to tell this little short story is gonna be like eight pages.

54:01

And it's about these four heroes with no names going into this cave

54:05

and defeating the demon lord Moloch.

54:09

And, you know, it was just fun and silly and stupid and violent

54:14

and it just it was so much fun that, you know,

54:17

I decided to do more with it, you know, send it over to less.

54:21

And I was like, what do you think? What do you think about this?

54:23

And he was like, I think we need to do something with it.

54:25

He's like, you got a book here? And I was like, okay, we got a book, let's do this.

54:30

And yeah. So from there, man, it just kind of took off.

54:33

You know, the, doing it in the manga style with, you know, with that style of art

54:39

less fought me like hell on that in the beginning.

54:42

Oh, yeah. I love less. We're like brothers, man.

54:44

We fight like hell, but we work very, very well together.

54:47

Yeah. And, so. But I didn't want to do the manga thing because he had it in his mind

54:53

that anime and manga were a Dragon Ball Z.

54:56

That's it. And there's nothing else to do.

54:59

And so I was like, dude, here, check out berserk,

55:03

check out Attack on Titan, check out battle Angel Alita.

55:06

You know, check out all of these other, really rad, I'm sorry.

55:09

It's my dog coming through. It is, but don't worry about it.

55:12

Well, now that we said it out loud, people know that it's not their minds.

55:16

We're good. Let me. Let me. Shut down.

55:19

So it's this new dog that we have.

55:21

And my my girlfriend Tiffany was going to Kroger,

55:25

and this homeless guy came up and shoved Dobby in her window.

55:30

Oh, well. And Tiffany's like,

55:35

so we took the dog and she gave the guy ten bucks.

55:37

And now, we've got a new dog. His name's Dobby, and, he's he's cute.

55:41

But when he's not getting attention, he wants.

55:44

I understand this is my dog's house. I just pay the bills.

55:47

Yeah, I totally get that.

55:49

Like, I just, you know, I sleep on that little bed in the corner.

55:53

Yeah, they they got my bed.

55:56

I mean, they just they're, they're. Like, does it matter the size of the dog too?

56:00

By the end of the day. End of the night. They have. Most of the. Bed.

56:03

Ones take up more room than the big ones. So they do baths.

56:09

So let's let's return back to your story here.

56:11

I would like to touch on to the fact that you started off in theater,

56:13

and then you made that transition into comics,

56:16

and now you're transitioning into, like, a new form of comics. Why?

56:19

Why make that move in medium? And what what are some of the benefits to moving that way?

56:24

Yeah. So my background is in, playwriting and screenwriting.

56:27

And, so my very first comic was Cult of Dracula,

56:31

and it began as a stage play, in Wilmington, North Carolina.

56:35

It was at the time it's called Dracula Reimagined.

56:37

It was nominated for a bunch of North Carolina Theater awards.

56:41

It won several. And I had the very large privilege of having someone who had become

56:46

a very dear friend of mine, Tony Todd,

56:49

he played Candyman, obviously.

56:52

He happened to be in the audience. One night he was in town filming something at Screen Gems Studios,

56:57

and he hung out after the show, and he was like, he's like Rich.

57:03

I really like this show. You've got something.

57:05

You've got something here. And, he said, you know, you should do something.

57:09

And so I decided that I was going to try

57:12

to adapt it into a micro-budget film,

57:15

you know, something that we would film on $1 million or less.

57:19

And, we did that. We. I wrote the screenplay and, it was so my wife

57:25

got sick with, with kidney disease, and she ultimately backed away in 2020.

57:30

So I was working on that screenplay,

57:32

you know, when she got sick, I was like, I can't do this.

57:35

So I actually threw it away. I threw a Dracula away, threw it in the trash, and Amber

57:40

got so pissed at me, man, she.

57:43

I don't think she's ever yelled at me the way that she yelled at me over that.

57:47

And luckily she had a PDF of it, and so she gave it back to me

57:51

and she was like, look, I get it.

57:54

We can't we can't make a film. We don't have the time. We don't have the resources.

57:58

You know, we got to worry about, you know, me right now.

58:02

Why don't you try to turn it into a comic book?

58:06

And I was like, you know, I can work.

58:09

You know, because writing a comic book script is very, very similar

58:13

to writing a screenplay. So, I mean, just there, there with a with a screenplay,

58:18

you're writing for your director, a photographer, and for him or her

58:22

to interpret, the shots.

58:24

And when you're writing a comic book script, you're writing for your illustrator, and you know

58:29

you want them to lay out the shots basically, right?

58:33

So it really, you know, my skill set really just kind of flowed from one to the other.

58:39

And so Cult Dracula came

58:42

out of the gate, you know, it sold well in excess.

58:45

So that's a hit right there. That's that's a huge one.

58:47

Yeah, yeah. I mean, and I, you know, I was like, well, you know, let's do this again

58:53

and let's do this again and let's do this again.

58:55

And they just keep letting me do it. So, you know, I'm here until they kick me out.

59:00

Well, it's the storytelling. It's the way you team up with less on these great, you know,

59:04

projects to you have and, yeah, people people aren't doing it.

59:08

They find a lot of joy in there. Now, you're working with a friend of ours,

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Joey from Geek Collective, and, he talks about your character.

59:14

Shorty, can you tell us a little bit about Shorty?

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Okay. So it's, she. Mojo. It's a little hard to.

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He said it wrong. I want to put that out there first. I got it from him.

59:23

Yeah. So she wrote Mojo.

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She is known as the White Witch of Edessa, and she is the only known

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survival or survivor or of the Third War of the fallen.

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And that was the war that, defeated Morlock

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and, prevented him from raising the Prince of the fallen.

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So she has now become the High priestess, to the radiant god.

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And she exists in, a city called Light City.

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It's the only city that humanity has managed to put together.

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Everyone else lives out in these, in these little villages or nomadic terrains.

1:00:03

You know, humanity really doesn't have a strong footing in this world, except for, like, city.

1:00:09

And it's protected, by she wrote mojo.

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Now she mojo has a

1:00:17

I don't I can't call it a dark secret,

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but it's a heavy, heavy secret that she has to bear.

1:00:24

And I would love to tell you what that secret is right now,

1:00:27

but I worry that gonna spoil quite a bit of volume two.

1:00:31

Of the book. Oh. It doesn't come into play in volume one.

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But if you if you look at her and you watch,

1:00:40

if you pay attention to her story in the book, you're gonna get it.

1:00:44

And you're, you know, and it's going to pay off for you in volume two.

1:00:48

But her secret is very, very, very relevant

1:00:51

and very compelling, and it makes her quite a tragic character.

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So, she's the big character that we've been pushing in all of our advertising.

1:01:00

You know, part of it is she's an amazing freaking character.

1:01:04

And then the other part of it is it's a it's a hot blond anime chick.

1:01:07

And, you know, so my balls.

1:01:10

You know, the way she holds herself, the way she dresses to she,

1:01:14

she tells you like, hey, I am what you probably expect out of an angel.

1:01:17

And then, like, almost like that arc angel style. Right.

1:01:20

And then so you're like, okay, let me explore more. And then you hear about the Nephilim and stuff like that, and there's the kaiju.

1:01:25

So that it's, it's a good. Gateway into the story, really into the world.

1:01:28

Yeah, I think so. Yeah. And she's been a really fun character, to write and to conceive.

1:01:34

In the beginning, you know, she was really the only fleshed out

1:01:37

character that I had, when I first started talking

1:01:41

and everybody else, they were very loose concepts.

1:01:45

I mean, their names changed like, 50 different times

1:01:48

because I couldn't decide who they were.

1:01:51

You know, I was having all these conversations with them, but they weren't telling me who they are.

1:01:56

And I know that sounds crazy. But if you're if you're a writer, you probably get it.

1:02:01

You know, like, I legitimately have conversations

1:02:03

with my characters, you know, and I've had artists before. They're.

1:02:06

They'll ask me less than this, and it drives them crazy.

1:02:09

You'll be like, okay, so you know, what's going to what's going to happen

1:02:12

when this person gets down and I'm like, I don't know.

1:02:14

They haven't told me yet. Yeah. You know, so, I operate off these loose outlines like I've got Angel

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Hunter mapped out in an outline all the way through volume ten.

1:02:26

Wow. Yeah, it's it's it's ambitious.

1:02:29

And, you know, the outline is going to change. It always does, you know, but at least you've got the foundation of it.

1:02:34

But, but. Yeah, sure. Mojo, for a while was probably the most developed character.

1:02:39

And now the others have caught up and, you know, less has his favorites.

1:02:43

I have my favorites. And, you know, so they're coming together to tell a really incredible story, less.

1:02:48

And I believe we feel the same way about Angel Hunter.

1:02:51

We feel like we've got something special.

1:02:53

Yeah. I have the same feeling about Angel Hunter that I had about Cult of Dracula.

1:02:57

And I think that we've got something that's got legs

1:03:01

that people are really going to relate to. It's going to be a very entertaining story.

1:03:05

And as an intellectual property, there's a lot of,

1:03:09

there's a lot of potential for this to grow

1:03:12

outside of just a comic book.

1:03:15

Yeah. And then, you know, in my shockingly sane volume ten, I want to make sure to

1:03:19

let everybody know this first. First one that's coming out 96 pages and then 120 pages.

1:03:24

For the ones following that, you are not releasing these in these small floppies.

1:03:28

This is going to be complete stories, people are going to be getting. They're going to be diving right into it.

1:03:31

And frankly, at my age of a comic book reader, I like those.

1:03:34

Now I'm kind of into the bigger trades I want to get, you know, stuck.

1:03:37

So I do appreciate that. How does that why do that instead of doing the smaller floppy version?

1:03:44

So I also own a comic book store. So I get to take some look at this.

1:03:47

I get to look at this from many, many different angles.

1:03:50

As a comic book fan, a comic book retailer, and a comic book writer, I get to see it from all different angles.

1:03:56

And there's a lot of people are going to cringe

1:03:59

when I say this right now, but it is absolutely gospel truth.

1:04:03

Floppies are dead. It is impossible to get people

1:04:08

to buy independent genre floppies right now.

1:04:12

They're going to be independent. I think it's even harder not to interrupt you,

1:04:15

but I feel like people need to take those chances, and it's for some reason it's hard for them to do Jesus.

1:04:19

Because I know I'm going on a bit of a rant because I do a lot of indie comic book writers,

1:04:22

but some of the readers are like, I don't know if I could invest that much time into you yet

1:04:26

because you might not make it to issue five.

1:04:28

That's why it's nice to see that you have ten volumes planned out, you know.

1:04:31

Exactly. Yeah. I mean, it's like people will come in, they're going to buy

1:04:36

their issue, a Batman, their issue a spider man, the issue of it.

1:04:39

And they're going to buy it faithfully, religiously.

1:04:41

They're they're addicted to it. But trying to get them to pick up a new number one

1:04:47

horror book or a sci fi book or a fantasy book.

1:04:51

I mean, heck, even things that like Garth Ennis and Columbine.

1:04:54

Right? Donnie Cates, it's it's hard to get people to pick them up in floppy,

1:04:59

but when I put a 999 image volume

1:05:02

one trade paperback in their hands, they grabbed three.

1:05:05

Yeah. And you know, they love it.

1:05:08

The genre books just make more sense in a collected edition.

1:05:13

So that's one reason, the, one of the other reasons is that

1:05:17

we are paying respect to the manga genre,

1:05:21

and manga comes out in,

1:05:24

you know, digest thick, essentially graphic novels.

1:05:27

So we are doing Angel Hunter in, the digest size.

1:05:32

So it's going to look just like a manga. We are going to as a stretch goal,

1:05:35

we're going to reproduce it in the larger comic book format as well.

1:05:39

But the main the main book's going to come out. It's going to look a lot like a manga.

1:05:43

You're going to read it standard left to right,

1:05:45

you know, because that's confusing for American audiences.

1:05:48

And it would we thought it would cut us off

1:05:50

from a large demographic if we did it from back to front.

1:05:54

And also less was like, I don't really think I could tell a story backwards.

1:05:59

And I was like, we'll do that, don't do it.

1:06:01

Think about the industry as a whole, as a comic book, store owner,

1:06:03

you probably are seeing this now where Marvel and DC are starting to make like the smaller

1:06:08

actual size of their big collections, because I think that's just kind of

1:06:12

where the market is going in general. So I think this is this is going to be a success.

1:06:16

I just feel that this is going to be really good.

1:06:18

I sure hope so, man. We've, lesson I both put a lot of hard work into this book.

1:06:23

And again, it's lessons. Art is beautiful.

1:06:26

Yes it is. He loves my story.

1:06:29

We create this to lesson. I'll again.

1:06:31

We're like brothers, you know, we work together, lessons.

1:06:34

Worked on every book that I've ever written in some shape, form or fashion.

1:06:38

And, we just get along and, well, we get along when we're not arguing.

1:06:42

But, you know, that's what brothers do. You know, you fight.

1:06:44

Yeah. And, but it's always, it's always because we're passionate about the story.

1:06:51

And I think, I think that really comes across.

1:06:54

We're not just, you know, less isn't just doing this as a work for hire,

1:06:59

because I'm paying him his heart's and and my heart's in this.

1:07:03

So I really hope that translates, to the readers.

1:07:07

And they feel about it the way that we do.

1:07:10

Yeah. I want to make sure buddy heads over to the Kickstarter page now.

1:07:13

It's, it's going to be in the description out. And look at Les's work.

1:07:16

He's got we have, preview pages up and the amount of effort on every single page.

1:07:22

Let's wouldn't do this for a commission. He would do this

1:07:24

if he has actual heart in this and you could see it, it is gorgeous.

1:07:28

I cannot wait to explore this role that you're creating.

1:07:30

Rich, thank you so much for joining me today, man.

1:07:32

I appreciate that. Thanks for having me, man.

1:07:43

All right. We are back with cool things. That was network news.

1:07:46

So overall fan of portals. He's got Marvel Month going on Aaron and Bashir and they're doing a giveaway.

1:07:51

So check it. They're out there. Social media guys are going to be winning some stuff, some movie tickets.

1:07:55

Anime plus is doing an interview with one of their friends.

1:07:57

I went to Japan talking about that, you know, Pan and anime and manga

1:08:01

and that culture that's over there. It's a two part series.

1:08:04

Overall, except accepted. We're doing Detective Pikachu and Daredevil and The Last of Us.

1:08:10

It's exhausting just typing that out.

1:08:12

And then at last podcast. So we have a member on the survivor cast right now that's from Sacramento,

1:08:18

and he's his name is Joe, and he's absolutely cool.

1:08:21

So he did one watch party in Sacramento, and he's doing another one this week.

1:08:25

And unfortunately it didn't end. But the first one

1:08:27

I will I'm going to be going to a camping basically doing camping this week

1:08:31

so I won't be able to do this. I'm hoping he does next week. But if you're in the Sacramento area, Joe, everybody's favorite survivor

1:08:36

this season is doing watch parties in downtown Sacramento.

1:08:39

So go check that out guys. That's freaking awesome. Yes.

1:08:42

And then Disney's nerding, it's talking about CinemaCon

1:08:44

and they do live episodes every Tuesday Thursday. So feel free to check that out too.

1:08:48

And then we have a brand new website because as you know, just putting more things on a plane. Yes.

1:08:53

I think it's a little bit more easier to navigate and it's easier to find your favorite podcast on there.

1:08:58

So go and check that out, guys. Geforce.com or any other version of that you could think of.

1:09:02

It's there. Let's go to our recommendations of the week.

1:09:05

Thomas, I'll start with you. What is your recommendation for the week?

1:09:09

Yeah. Come join us over on Challenge Accepted.

1:09:13

Seriously, I want to hear what people think. I'm so excited about this Daredevil finale.

1:09:17

First and foremost. Like, it feels like it flew by for us.

1:09:21

They took some interesting turns.

1:09:23

I think it is by far one of the better Disney Plus Marvel shows that they've come out with.

1:09:28

We know that we're getting to season two, so I'm very curious to see how they wrap it up.

1:09:32

But I've also heard rumors that there's somebody from the MCU

1:09:36

that's a different hero that's going to be in the finale.

1:09:38

So I, I believe that comes true now.

1:09:41

God, yeah. Maybe not that that I might not make it.

1:09:44

As good as I want to be.

1:09:47

But on the flip side, kind of like, I finally got around to this movie.

1:09:51

Oh, two things. Okay, fine.

1:09:54

I saw Royal Pain. Highly recommend it for everybody out there.

1:09:56

It's what Kieran Culkin won an Oscar for.

1:09:59

Written by the guy who played Lex Luther from Batman v Superman, Jesse Eisenberg.

1:10:05

That is. There it is. Really, really freaking good about two cousins that go on a trip together.

1:10:10

Very emotional, very funny, very dark.

1:10:13

Just so good. So yeah, definitely check that out.

1:10:16

And then the last one, I'm curious for everybody out there

1:10:18

if you've watched the devil May cry series, what did you think about it?

1:10:22

As I just quickly say, I really liked how it started.

1:10:24

And if you're like us and you were kind of, you know, in high school or

1:10:28

college age around the early 2000, the soundtrack is incredible.

1:10:33

And some of the fights with the songs with, like, Papa Roach

1:10:36

and like, system of a down and stuff is so good.

1:10:39

But I don't know, I feel like it kind of loses a little bit of steam in the middle of the show,

1:10:43

and then it has a pretty nice finale, but I think it just starts off super strong.

1:10:47

So I'm just curious what everybody else thinks about it out there since Motown.

1:10:51

That's what high school. Right there. Too. You'll love the soundtrack.

1:10:55

It is. Fire. Yeah, I love the games, the early games too.

1:10:58

So, you know, I need to. I need to check that out.

1:11:00

Squeaks, what about you? Yeah. So I don't know if you guys saw it, but I just saw it literally

1:11:05

right before I got on this podcast. And my recommendation is because I was on this thing.

1:11:10

So did anybody see the photo

1:11:13

of Jason Momoa as Lobo on a motorcycle?

1:11:16

Yeah. What the fuck are you talking about?

1:11:18

This morning it was. Man.

1:11:21

Oh, man, it's pretty heavy. It seems like it's a it's a snake.

1:11:25

Yeah. For sure. Yeah. It's not, you know, it's not supposed to be.

1:11:28

Breaking out right now on the part of the Greg Briggs podcast.

1:11:31

Yeah, yeah. So anyway, I'm a regular I know Frank's like, sweating right now.

1:11:34

I gotta fucking tight. This his ass. Again. I'm good, I want it I'm googling it.

1:11:39

Keep getting sweaty. But I brought this out.

1:11:42

Because I it's been a long time since I read anything Lobo.

1:11:46

And so, I started to pick it up. Superman versus Lobo.

1:11:49

I don't know if it's one of the greatest stories, that I've ever read before.

1:11:52

Any new comic book. But if you really want to know something about Lobo before,

1:11:56

like, Lobo actually pops up on what I think it's gonna be featured in the Supergirl movie or whatever.

1:12:02

Yeah. To, like, know his strength. Right?

1:12:04

And I was like, why not start with him fighting the strongest man in the DC universe?

1:12:07

So, I would say Superman versus Lobo.

1:12:10

Check that out and get yourself prepped before we see the Lobo on screen.

1:12:14

Don't look it up, guys, because it's just straight up Lobo.

1:12:17

I mean, he's he is straight up Lobo. That's crazy.

1:12:20

It is crazy. Yeah, it's wild because, like, here we are.

1:12:23

You know, like he's been saying he's wanted to be this character, Jason Momoa, for years and years.

1:12:28

Like maybe ten years now and then it's crazy that we live in a world where like that could happen.

1:12:33

Like if you just, you know, if you're famous enough and you hang on like you can become that character.

1:12:38

Yeah, it's pretty wild. I'm so pumped about it.

1:12:41

He's got another show coming on Chief of War. Like, I'm a massive Jason. More than just being from Hawaii.

1:12:45

So, like, anything that dude's in, I'm going to.

1:12:47

I'm gonna support it. Yeah, putting it out right now.

1:12:50

Kevin, listen to me. I'm your battery bill. We got CGI.

1:12:54

You can make me look. Hey, there you go. Let me voice act.

1:12:56

Battery. Bill. I'm a mocap. His face.

1:12:59

So that's that's probably the one part of him that you don't want to get the horse part.

1:13:04

Yes. Please let me be battery available. Okay.

1:13:06

My recommendation for the week is going to be. It's out on Wednesday, guys.

1:13:09

A new comic book called Summer of Superman special number one.

1:13:12

It's a very large episode or issue.

1:13:14

This is going to be. They're saying that this is going

1:13:17

to be affecting how all future Superman comic books go forward.

1:13:21

And so it's kind of like a new turning point for Superman.

1:13:24

It's just and it's one of the more bright and hopeful versions of Superman.

1:13:27

Looking at the comic book so far, which I think is all in line with the movie coming up.

1:13:31

So if you're ready for the movie, The five, the all star Superman vibe,

1:13:35

I think this is one for you guys. I read a little bio for it when John Henry Irons and Lana came along,

1:13:42

take their vows, everyone turns up for the big day.

1:13:45

But trouble is brewing on the horizon. And as threats from the past, present, and future got a major new conflict

1:13:51

for Superman's family. So check it out, guys.

1:13:54

Again, it's go summer us Superman special number one in your comic book shop.

1:13:57

This one.

1:13:59

All right, guys, thank you so much for joining us today. We appreciate it.

1:14:02

And I'll see you on the next speaker's podcast man. I.