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I ain't going to get fixed.

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I am free. And today I'm joined by Jonathan.

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Hey. Hey, yo. We have a lot to cover today. A bunch to cover today.

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We have a bunch of small pieces of news. We have a review for both wicked and Gladiator two.

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We have an interview with the wonderful Megan from Vigilante Vibes,

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and we're gonna be talking about Fan Expo, which you are going to be at next week.

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So if you guys are in the San Francisco area and you guys want to hang out, let us know.

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Jonathan, how are you doing today, man? I'm great.

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How are you doing? Doing good. We got Thanksgiving this week outside of just visiting every other family.

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What are some of the traditions you like the most about Thanksgiving?

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You know. As kids, we do Black Friday real big. That was like, you know, back in the early 2000s.

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It was a hot thing to do. Anyways. There were super good deals that you'd have to go compete for.

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Nowadays, I am not excited about the shopping.

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I don't like how that's the whole holiday shopping nowadays.

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So instead of doing that, me and my family usually spend

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that day to decorate. So we put a bowl or whatever decorations

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we don't already have up, which my wife is ready to start today.

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I actually already pulled everything out of the garage. It's in the corner of the living room.

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But yeah, it's a better way to spend the day,

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you know, together and doing something, you know, fun versus competing

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for a deal on a gift that somebody probably doesn't need anyways.

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But this year, you know, on top of the list, doing some of that in the morning,

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we're going to be going to Fan Expo that day, Black Friday.

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So yeah, that'll be fun too.

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What is the thing you're looking forward to the most at Fan Expo?

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I got to meet Kate Mulgrew. She's going to be there.

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Got to get a photo with her. Maybe an autograph.

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There's a lot of good actors that are going to be there, but, you know, she's definitely top of my list.

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What's the one question you'd want to ask Kate?

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Oh, so I kind of want to ask her. I'm going to geek out and I'll probably forget what I'm.

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I get so nervous in front of celebrities and actors and stuff.

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I got to break that shit right? Yeah.

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I'll just hand her a note. Shaking like, hey, can you stay?

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Well, I kind of want to ask her, like, you know. Hey, we know you from Star Trek.

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You were also really good in orange is the New Black.

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Obviously, a lot of people liked it there, but what is the role or character

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that you really liked that you don't think got as much appreciation or attention?

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The exposure. You know, exposure. Yeah.

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Because I, you know, I want to go see like what was your favorite movie that you acted in?

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I want to go watch it. Like I want to look it up.

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I'm sure I could look up, you know, all the things that she's been in.

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But you know which one mattered the most to you

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or was the most fun to produce or something like that.

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And, you know, give me a short list. I'll.

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I'll start watching them. That's a really good one.

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Kate Mulgrew, I think, is one of the many Star Trek

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actors who started out not a big fan of Star Trek.

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And then after leaving the show and starting to see the impact

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that her character has, especially her character on women and young women and stuff like that.

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And then now finding a new appreciation for it, I there's something there.

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And so that would be a really good question for my personally, I would love to talk with,

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Joseph Quinn is going to be there who is playing the Human Torch.

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We just saw him in Gladiator, and Charlie Cox, who plays Daredevil,

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and I literally bought the shirt just because I met him. That I actually have a fantastic 412 for Joseph Quinn.

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So there's going to be a lot of panels at this thing. There's going to be a lot of things to do.

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And I was just the schedule just released today as we're recording,

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one of the things I'm excited for is they're going to have multiple panels on playing D and D,

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and one of them is had a DM. So I'm going to have you guys go to the food court

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while I watch that you guys are going to get any hints.

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Okay. You should have us watch it on Tuesday.

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We understand how hard it is, how stressful it is.

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You know what actually. Yeah, actually. But ro guys, you use my press passes.

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Whatever for ro. That's one thing though, that I've learned.

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You know, going to more Comic-Con and especially if you haven't been to one you probably like have no idea

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why you would, why people would sit in a panel and watch it.

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To me, that's definitely one of the highlights is going to a panel, but is.

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Part my favorite part. Yeah, yeah. You if you get to meet an actor, you're going to ask him maybe one question.

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Are you gonna get a picture and then get the hell out of the way?

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There's a line of people behind you that want to, you know,

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be face to face with this actor for a minute. So you're not going to spend a lot of time with them.

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But when they're they're up on stage, you know, you get to see them joke

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around and answer a lot of questions and get a little bit

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more, you know, exposure of, you know, who they really are.

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You'd never really heard them talk about what they felt about that

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character or something like that, or how the filming process went for them.

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So all that kind of stuff, it's just gives you a lot more behind the scenes.

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Ensure you can look it up on YouTube, but it's a lot more fun to be in the room.

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It is. Yeah. And a lot of times you can ask the question yourself

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during these panels and stuff, but whenever there's a convention going on or if, like Thomas is going down,

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the convention will share a lot of those pictures too.

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We love to share pictures from the convention,

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not just because it's like, hey, check out this convention,

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but also like check out the artists that are here.

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Check out the actors that you love sharing, stuff that you've never heard from before.

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So make sure you follow us on other social media places

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and going to record from the convention itself,

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probably at the Airbnb afterwards when we're tired and crashed.

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We're out. But we're going to be sharing a lot of stuff.

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Probably gonna be doing two episodes as we do for a lot of these bigger conventions.

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It should be a blast, and I'm really excited for it. All right, John, we are going to get into the news.

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We're going to be talking about much stuff, going to be doing Wicked

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Gladiator two and interviewing Megan for vigilante vibes.

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If you guys want to bounce around, we have the timestamps in the,

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description, so you can press one of those. It should jump right to that if I've done it right.

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I've been working on that. But let's go ahead and get into the news.

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Charlotte, do you remember the movies? The Highlander movies?

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No, I remember of them. I know there's so many, like, pop culture references to them.

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Yeah, but I don't I don't think if I want some, I must have been less than ten.

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I, Yeah, it's one of those things that I'm sure we watched it a lot

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when, like, you were baby kind of thing, and just it was like always on TV.

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There's like seven of them, so. And the first one had Sean Connery, which is the reason I tuned in.

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I thought for sure, but the idea is that it's like these soldiers

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that that exist through time and kill each other off.

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It kind of reminds me of the one, actually. Now I'm thinking about it. Where lately?

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Yeah, when you're, like, killing other people and becoming stronger yourself.

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Well, they're rebooting the franchise, and they.

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They tapped in the biggest badass actor you could think of.

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Johnny, can you think of that badass actor? It's not Idris Elba.

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Henry Cavill, they got Henry Cavill is going to be running this new franchise because of course he is.

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He does everything else. And we got some details on this.

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First off, they tapped the director, Chad Stahelski, to be directing.

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This was going to be like John Wick, and Cat was going to be playing a 500 year

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old sword master who's an expert at martial arts.

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And it's set in a beyond present day New York and Hong Kong.

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It's going to have a romance, carnival action, all kinds of stuff.

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Henry Cavill himself said he's been practicing on his swordplay.

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So much for this movie. It'll be beyond anything you saw in The Witcher.

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So next level stuff.

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This original movie came out in 86. It's a cult classic, and they made a bunch of different copies of this.

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They're going to start filming in 2025, and this one's going to release in

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2026, 30 years after the first movie.

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So 30 years now, 40 years after the first movie.

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Oh, wow. Yeah. So ancient.

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Jesus. Is crazy.

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What do you think, Henry Cavill's in too many things nowadays.

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No, not an go into it.

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Especially because he's his fandom.

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The fact that he's already, like, practicing it sounds like, by the way,

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you said that he was practicing when he heard that they're writing a script for it before he even got cast for

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he's like, no, no, I'm going to be ready. Like, don't worry, I'll have my own lines ready for for the for the audition

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kind of thing. Yeah. So the fact that he's excited about

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it makes me excited to see him play that character.

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Yeah, I love that about him. And there's a few other actors that are the same way where

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because he's a fan of the things he's like, that's a big thing with Witcher two because he's a fan of it.

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It makes me more excited for the project. I follow the project from start to finish more.

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I got to give a big shout out to Amon Vellani, who plays Miss Marvel

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for the MCU.

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Miss Marvel is an okay character. Like, it's not that big of a deal in the comic books.

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Whatever. I really like in the video games, but because Amon

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Vellani is straight up an MCU fan, loves the MCU.

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That, and how excited she was just to be on set next to like,

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oh my god, Iron Man or whatever. That is so freaking fun.

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And then I'm way more excited to see what she does with Young Avengers

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when not only are we seeing her like, recruit the Young Avengers,

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but we're also seeing her excited to see Hailee Steinfeld as.

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Hawkeye and that just really. Yeah.

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So I think I think that's what we need out of our stars.

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And that's why I think Henry Cavill deserves to be in so many things

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because yeah, it's fun to be on this adventure with them.

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And I think we're in a world now where stardom isn't about being in the

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big movies. It's about just being likable and people following you through your

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through your other projects. Does that make sense?

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Yeah. And like we've seen before, like Chris Pratt doing,

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you know, really good at Star-Lord and has all this success, but

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then he will use that to go see kids in the hospital and stuff like that.

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I'm just kind of like, yeah, just like make their day.

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And it's like, that's the kind of person that you want to support,

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whether he's acting in a movie that you're going to like or not, it makes you want to go see his movies

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even, you know, even if they're not, you know, maybe it's a romance and not him as Star-Lord kind of thing.

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Yeah, yeah, I think that's a good point. Like, it's fun to be able to follow an actor that you like because you like

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how they are not as a person versus just liking the characters they played.

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We're far more attached. I know there's that para

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parasocial relationship where people feel like they actually know the person, and that's a problem,

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but there is an attachment to the actors now that I think wasn't there before.

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And I think for the most part that's a good thing because it the actors

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that actually want to engage with this, I think, reap the rewards more.

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And I think they have the opportunity. Like there's plenty of actors where I like watching their movies

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and I don't know their personal character at all, like Jason Statham.

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When you're talking about these, like Jean-Claude Van Damme type movies

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like, well, yeah, he's that's pretty much all he makes. And they're usually pretty good.

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They're not amazing. But, you know, I'll watch.

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I'm really like The Beekeeper. And even though it was kind of, cheesy, but, you know, they got into it.

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But at the same time, I don't know if he's, you know,

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at an animal shelter on the weekends or, you know, he beats his kids.

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I really don't know. But I but I watch his movies because I do like his acting.

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It's usually not something you post on Instagram. I just throw that out there.

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Like, I don't know. I'm sure some people I'm sure that.

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Yeah, that's a good call out there. He's kind of the guy that we would follow in the normal situation, right?

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That would be just like your normal action star was just like, yeah, I would if it's a Jason movie.

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Yeah, I'd go check that out.

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Next up, let's talk about Daniel Craig.

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He's in talks to play somebody named Sergeant Rock,

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which is a DC character from back in the old days.

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And I did not know anything about Sergeant Rock.

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It's a DC comic book character. I had to do some research on him.

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So here is the deal with DC Rock.

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I'm sorry, with the Sergeant Rock.

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He is a World War two type hero.

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He was just like a captain in the Army and would most notably

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be like kind of their GI Joe in DC comic books would have those missions.

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We have to go in and save somebody from some Kaiser or whatever

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and and save the day. And then there are even some later comic books.

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So they had him fight zombies. So I think they're going to stick to the original version of this.

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And I think this is going to be DC kind of

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Wonder Woman esque movie, maybe that first Wonder Woman movie, how good that was.

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Maybe this is DC's like a second attempt at that.

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That makes more sense. I was trying to think like, are they trying to do a DC version of Captain America?

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But he doesn't look like that, that because Captain America,

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before he is a soldier, he is more a moral compass.

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He's right. All about. Integrity.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this guy doesn't look like he's playing

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that role, but he actually kind of reminds me of Sergeant Hatred from.

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Oh, what's that show with the two brothers, venture brothers?

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Yeah, I just read that just in the comic covers and stuff like that.

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But yeah, that'll be interesting. I did like, Wonder Woman

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and to see, you know, them embrace this, like, kind of retro character.

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I wonder how they're going to kind of update him to modern expectations, I guess.

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Yeah. And from my understanding, he's never been brought to the future.

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So I think this is going to be taking place during World War two.

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So. Okay. Yeah. So then I'm wondering if they're going to be using him to showcase

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an earlier version of maybe the Justice Society.

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So he could be this like normal soldier.

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Think of like a theory, you know, from Marvel.

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He's like a normal soldier who just happens to be, like, the best captain.

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And at some point, the U.S. Army is like, look, we're finding out that there's

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a lot of these people with abilities now, and

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we'd like to bring them into the military and help us out fighting Hitler.

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And so they're like, can you run this team?

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So then he's put in charge of assembling this like ragtag group of, like, brand new superheroes.

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Like, that's where you get the very first version of

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of Green Lantern coming in with Alan Scott and stuff like that.

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And maybe he's kind of. Now I'm kind of writing a movie in my head that I think would be pretty fun.

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But yeah, that'd be cool. It'd be a time period, and it would be divorce of the normal DCU,

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all referenced in the newer movies that we're seeing.

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Do you think that's feasible for a brand new,

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you know, franchise that they're building here? Multiverse.

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Yeah, I don't think we have much.

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I mean, they don't have roots planted yet, so now's the time to experiment

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a little bit. Yeah. So I think try it a try it and see how it goes.

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If the fans like it then you can keep going in that direction.

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But yeah I don't I don't think there's much for them to lose at this point.

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Yeah. And then you get somebody like Daniel Craig, there's just so many, so much true appeal

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that he could play this Army type character doesn't have to be DC movie,

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and it's very likely that you'll watch it in the first place just because of what he does with other roles.

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It'll be interesting to see where they can go with this. I know there's also creature commandos that I think has some ties with World War

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Two, where they basically made a monster squad and and he could be definitely like

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the one who takes care of them or something like that.

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It's very. Interesting. I'm kind of surprised to see them interested

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in going back to a World War Two story.

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I feel like that's been told so many times

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that, you know, it's time to look for something different.

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But I don't know, do you. Think that maybe they go back to World War Two so often, especially at a time

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like this, because you can't mess it up like Hitler's bad?

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Yeah. So you have to worry about the people off.

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Yeah, but it's usually like that.

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So binary too. So if we're going to tell this story again, maybe tell it where

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we're seeing a resistance building within the Nazi party

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or something like that, where they're like. Yeah, Valkyrie.

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Yeah. Was there. Oh, there was another way.

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Tom cruise okay. Something something different.

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Rewrite the script because we've seen it too many times, but that.

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But you're right, I but I think the reason that they go back to is because they want it to be binary.

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I think they want it. I want I think they want to make movies

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sometimes, but they're just like, we don't need. To.

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Have people mad at us online. So we just show them

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shooting Nazis and like, nobody's ever going to be mad about that.

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And the people who are in the so fringe that it's not a problem, I think.

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Yeah. And then they're in the moneymaking business.

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They need to make money. And, you know, when you swing for the fences, sometimes you lose $400 million.

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And if you do something safe like that, you know, you spend 100 million and you recoup 120, you did pretty good.

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So they're probably just aiming for a relatively safe bet,

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a good name in a well known actor playing a pretty safe

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character will probably be profitable in the end.

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Yeah, it reminds me actually another one now they were talking about it with the rest of the DC.

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We've been talking about how good the casting has been because it looks so comic book accurate

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for the most part. Jon Stewart I know that there's been some colorization problems they've had with him,

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but for the most part it's been pretty accurate.

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And I wonder there's that term that just makes me sick to my stomach.

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But it's not without merit.

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Is that go woke, go broke thing.

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And we don't normally talk about politics on this podcast.

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Don't worry, we're not going there. But maybe they are trying to like, look, if we just stick to the source material

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and you guys can't blame us for anything, so maybe that's also part of it.

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Yeah, yeah. And I mean, maybe there's been a little bit too much

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I don't know what DC has been making. It's such a blur, but maybe they've been a little bit too experimental

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and they kind of want to go back to like you're saying

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binary, like this is just soldiers and shooting and kind of right,

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at least have some balance in, in their what they have to offer.

16:04

Yeah. Because I know for a fact that Superman, the new movie

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is going to be about the class struggle a little bit more than that's where the privileges

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at in class struggle, because he comes from Krypton, where his family was very wealthy, and then on Kansas they were not.

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And that's something that should be pretty universal.

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There's very few people. They'd be like, wait a minute, what about the rich guys?

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You know, that's something that we don't know. You know, I'm not really worried about Bill gates picketing outside of DC.

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And so yeah, yeah, I think we're seeing that at the DC.

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And I think that might be the smart move like this. Don't let anybody down.

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Don't you know, alienate anybody. But just kind of sticking to the social theory.

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That's kind of what we all wanted anyways. So I think there's some merit there that'll be interesting

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if we can have that conversation without everybody freaking out.

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Let's see. We'll see. They'll find something to hate on. Of course.

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That'll be geek for his hip campaign on us guys. Just click on the link. You

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Allen. Two Dick. Which I always is it trick or 2 to 2?

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Thumbs up, I believe. Yeah. Thank you.

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Is going to be returning to play Clayface because he plays Clayface

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in the Harley Quinn series. Fantastic series, but he's going to be returning

17:03

to play it in Creature Commandos and in an interview is very interesting.

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He talks about how well in Harley Quinn he plays it is like a real

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thespian actor where he's like, you know, hide flute and talking.

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And then in this one they're like, we know you got to play the

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the dark serial killer version of Clayface.

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So he's like really evil and stuff like that. And it just, he's so freakin talented.

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This guy. Is.

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Yeah, I see him on TikTok. Every once in a while, he'll start or somebody will ask him, like to,

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to voice his characters that he's played before they start naming him off,

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and he'll start doing just the small lines for him.

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I'm like, oh my God, I did not know he was half of these characters from these.

17:39

I mean, I know what I've seen him in, in live action,

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but all these animated characters that he's played, it's amazing.

17:45

He's just such a good voice actor.

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I can't help but you brought it up off mic, but nights too.

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That's where we probably remember him the most from. Oh yeah, that's the first time I ever seen his face, and

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that's still one of my favorite movies for sure.

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Yeah, but yeah, he's such a fun character in that too.

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I think I first was introduced to him through Firefly.

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He's the pilot, and then unfortunately died in the movie version of it.

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So we're going to get a lot more Alan Tudyk in the MCU or in the DCeU.

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And James Gunn, when he first announced the DC, you mentioned that

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if you play a role, some somewhere else, you play it the entire way through.

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So if there's a live action version of Clayface, which I know will still be

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CGI, Allan's going to return for that too, which is going to be really cool.

18:23

And there are hints that there's a mysterious mystery roles are in Superman

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that he's been on set for, so maybe we'll get Clayface,

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which is a Batman villain in Superman, for a little bit, which,

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hey, that'll be a handsome man can handle him.

18:37

Yeah. Mighty Mouse is getting a movie.

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It is being done by Ryan Reynolds production company, Maximum Effort,

18:43

which I love that he named his production company Maximum Effort.

18:45

Paramount's the one greenlighting this. And Mighty Mouse is from the 1940s.

18:51

Very crazy. Now, you don't remember this at all, right, mighty mouse?

18:55

I kind of remember him like a buff little mouse with a Superman cape, right?

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Yeah. And that's a theme song a little bit.

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Yeah, I have to play some of it here in the podcast. As it relates. Hey, guys, this is the thing.

19:06

Is that not Mighty Mouse? Yeah. You nailed the dolphin. Yeah, that is it.

19:09

You know that. But yeah. So so they're making this again.

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And I don't think that there's anything crazy about I mean, like,

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there's nothing really interesting about Mighty Mouse except for he's just like, it's Mickey Mouse, but he's Superman, too.

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But but the fact that the IP is out there and you can not worry about the copyright

19:23

is pretty big. Yeah. The first airing was in 1942 with The Mouse of Tomorrow.

19:28

Ryan Reynolds is freaking awesome now.

19:31

Have you watched Welcome to Wrexham yet?

19:35

Not not much of it, probably. I think it was 4 or 5 episodes, but not the whole thing.

19:40

He is one of those guys that, again, we were talking about before,

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where you follow people on social media first and then go to see their movies.

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I am at the point now where I watch anything. Ryan Reynolds is in, just because I see the efforts that he's putting into.

19:51

And there's a spin off to Welcome to Wrexham, which I think your wife would be very interested in.

19:55

McElhenney and Eva Longoria bought a team in Mexico,

19:59

and they're doing the same thing with it, the revitalizing the entire town in Mexico, making the team big and stuff like that.

20:04

So it's that's so awesome that he's spreading that love and just he's such a good businessman.

20:09

It's crazy. Did you go watch the movie if.

20:13

No, because I'm waiting for it to be on HBO.

20:16

Yeah, yeah, it looked a little a little iffy.

20:20

Yeah, I tried it like those kids ones. It has to take a lot for me to go watch it.

20:23

Like I just, you know. Yeah, it was tough for me to watch.

20:27

Wicked was like, okay, I'm not a fan of of musicals at all.

20:30

Let me give this a shot just because I was pleasantly surprised, actually.

20:34

That's good. Yeah, I have a coworker that definitely would not like that kind of a movie,

20:38

but he went because his girlfriend wanted to see it. And he's like, you know,

20:42

I usually don't watch that kind of stuff, especially if it's a musical.

20:44

But it wasn't that bad. I was like, okay, in that case,

20:46

it must be a really good movie for you to have for you to come out saying that.

20:49

Messaging Thomas. And we'll get into the wicked thing here pretty soon.

20:52

But eventually Thomas was like, I hate I hate all the singing.

20:56

It's so stupid. I just I hate all the singing stuff.

20:59

It just doesn't make any sense to me. But then, like, everything that's not singing in that movie, fantastic.

21:04

So it's if you're if you're if you're a musical fan like this has got to be insanely good for you.

21:09

What kills me is we are all musical fans.

21:12

We grew up as musical fans. You didn't watch Aladdin and sing along.

21:17

Mulan. All those movies imagine them

21:19

re-aired now without the musical aspects and they would be a complete flop.

21:24

We loved musicals as kids and we rewatched.

21:26

I still rewatch these movies all the time. I sing all along with Ariel, but it's something about it

21:31

being live action and feeling more like a play. That makes it a little more tongue in cheek or something like that.

21:35

They're so cringey to me. It's just like. Oh. Man, that's rough. To watch.

21:39

Yeah, it's funny, you get to just get animated.

21:43

Yeah, yeah. That's it. That's the trick. That's actually a terrible idea.

21:47

Next on the docket. So arcane just finished it.

21:50

We're gonna put the review up for arcane next week. We've been just behind on everything else.

21:53

A lot of news going on, and we have our next book coming up.

21:55

But I did talk recently with the League of Legends.

22:00

What is it called? Content creators, I guess.

22:02

I think they're going to be making some more shows, and they're going to be based on

22:05

three other territories the Mattea, Ionia and Knox's.

22:10

Do you know how big the lore is behind League of Legends?

22:12

I know you played the game a while back.

22:14

You imagine having laws? I have no idea.

22:16

I did actually see your TikTok to explaining all the stuff, and like,

22:19

I didn't think there was that much to go into it.

22:22

Like somebody just drew up a character and gave him a name, right?

22:24

No, they made an entire world that that character came from.

22:27

Yeah. So there used to be these newsletters that they'd put out,

22:30

like it would be a newsletter in world somebody actually like,

22:33

oh, this day in Demasi this is happening on Going On

22:36

and that developed it and then they kept expanding it.

22:38

There are now literally music videos by pop artists

22:42

that exists in these worlds that end up becoming chart breakers in real life.

22:46

That's crazy. Yeah, it's that big. So let me just explain

22:49

these three new territories that these shows are going to be in,

22:52

and it'll be a while before they're made, but so we kind of know.

22:55

So we have narcosis, which is kind of the general bad guy in the early days.

22:59

Is we just general bad guys. They were always in a war with the CIA. Now they're in the war with other people.

23:04

They are kind of Klingon in the fact that, like, if you want to be a power, it's

23:09

because you're the strongest person in town. And it's just how it is.

23:11

They're very much like, everything's awesome, big axes.

23:15

It's that kind of thing. As you hear,

23:17

we have Ionia, which is an island nation that is somewhat

23:22

inspired by, like, Japan and very nature based.

23:25

And, you know, they live in these beautiful villages and stuff.

23:29

And a lot of the kind of spiritual samurai characters kind of come from there.

23:34

And then we have DiMaggio, my personal favorite,

23:36

and that is a very much marble and gold, big fantasy, high fantasy city.

23:42

But the best thing about that place is it's absolutely gorgeous.

23:45

It'll stun any visitor, but they outlaw magic.

23:48

And they literally have, I think, two called mage hunters

23:51

that are like the secret police, where

23:55

we're picking up a lot of, old Germany stuff right now,

23:57

the secret police that go around hunting down any magic users.

24:00

And Garen, the main general for DiMarzio,

24:04

like the hero of the Mafia, his sister is a mage, Lux.

24:08

And so it's just there's like this whole mix of, like, law and order

24:13

and then like, what's good or what's bad and accepting magic and stuff.

24:16

So there's a lot of great stories to tell there.

24:18

And the lore of Ryutaro, which is a world that legal legend takes place

24:22

and can really be expanded upon of those three zones

24:26

I just explained, is there anything particular you'd want to explore in this?

24:29

I mean, they all sound cool. They all sound so unique.

24:32

I like, you know, the Knox's, the warlike people because I don't know,

24:37

like you're sounds like Klingons or reminds you the Herodians.

24:40

Like you just want to see them. You don't

24:43

necessarily want to see them succeed, but you want to see them eating themselves.

24:46

I think, like, yeah, the. Power shows within. Yeah.

24:49

Like the one. Guy steps up and kills the leader.

24:51

Now he's in charge and let's see how long he can hold power kind of thing.

24:55

That's always, always fun to see.

24:57

But yeah, I think just like the the different dynamics between each of the worlds would be cool.

25:02

But the question though is, are these all going to be together

25:05

or is this going to be three separate series that we see?

25:08

So they didn't say that. They just said that this is the place

25:10

we're gonna be visiting in the next in future series.

25:12

So we don't know if it's gonna be one series with all of them.

25:14

If it is one series with all of them, it'll be likely to Masha and NOx as they used to be in a big war.

25:20

They could bring that back. That would easily be a thing that would do well.

25:23

And NOx is totally embrace his magic.

25:26

You could that's the thing is, like, it's all about strength.

25:28

So it doesn't matter your race, what you do,

25:30

how you got there, they they will accept anybody who's stronger.

25:34

And so while Damasio looks like, oh, what a safe

25:37

place to live, they don't have knives whizzing by your head.

25:40

If you're the wrong kind of person, you're alienated versus Noctis

25:44

who will take you in. You just have to stand on your own two feet in a lot of ways.

25:48

So it's really cool. Dicom, the economy of two different nations,

25:51

and you're like, wait, which one's the good ones?

25:54

You know, and the ones that let you be free are the ones that, you know, force you to be?

25:58

Yeah, you'll be safe because we'll have you under our hands, you know.

26:01

Exactly. Yeah. And then, then by that account, Ionia is very much freedom.

26:06

And just like nobody's going to hurt you because you're on your own and, you know, it's beautiful out there.

26:10

And Runeterra has got, it's got places that are all Viking

26:14

based and all snow and ice. And in the same world, they have an entire pirate kingdom that's

26:19

just literally on, you know, pirates, and then they have a shot or whatever.

26:22

It's all kind of different places, a Game of Thrones.

26:24

But yeah, it's really neat to see how they've made this world.

26:28

But like any kind of video game kind of character you want to make could exist in this world in one way or another.

26:33

Yeah. We've got to explore that more.

26:36

GameStop, they announced back in August, are going to be bringing back retro games.

26:39

And now we have some clarification on this. We're gonna be working with the company.

26:42

Limited games. No, sorry, limited run, limited run game.

26:47

Kevin, who might be listening to this would be freaking out of this because he's a big fan of the company.

26:51

So what they're gonna be doing is they're going to be bringing back

26:53

select games for the NES, Super Nintendo, Game Boy Color, and Sega Genesis.

26:58

They're going to be there. Say they'll get like 100 per store, and that is they don't make any more.

27:03

And that's just how limited run works, obviously with their name.

27:06

Some of the games that they've already announced,

27:09

I know Jurassic Park was one of them worms Armageddon for Game Boy Color

27:13

rendering, Ranger R two for Super Nintendo.

27:16

And let's see, what do we have here? A boy and his blob trouble in blob cloning for any yes, old old school games.

27:24

Do you think this is a good move to keep it company's doors open,

27:29

or is it just a nostalgia hit for us like a death rattle?

27:32

Last ditch effort? I definitely think it's a last ditch effort.

27:37

Like they're trying, you know, whatever they can now,

27:41

it kind of depends on how much money they sink into this, this venture.

27:44

Like if they're going to put all their eggs in this basket and it fails, they're they're out of business, then.

27:48

Yeah, that's that's risky. And obviously they must be really desperate if that's the case.

27:52

But if this is just a drop in the hat, hey, we're going to,

27:55

you know, release some of these, see if they catch on fire

27:57

or if they just sell like, normal and not a big deal.

28:01

It's a good way to test the market if this becomes viral and super hot and

28:06

everybody wants all of these and these aren't super well name,

28:08

I mean, maybe Jurassic Park is recognizable. I don't know the other two, you know?

28:12

So if it does really well then they might be like, hey, you know what?

28:15

We're going to do a program where we release,

28:17

you know, a different game a month or something like that.

28:19

It's only going to be in store. It's always going to be a limited run.

28:23

So then they would have a consistent source of

28:26

of new revenue, fresh revenue from all the collectors.

28:29

The one caveat, I don't know. I mean, collectors I guess are different than most like gamers.

28:34

But we have some of these old vintage consoles,

28:38

but I don't think a lot of people would.

28:40

So I wonder if at some point they'll get into the business of selling vintage

28:44

like original or or I mean, they probably do some stores, but

28:48

also reproducing like the original Game Boy Color and things like that.

28:53

There are a lot of matter of fact, there's a new one coming out this coming month.

28:58

There are a lot of companies now that are reproducing

29:01

consoles that can play like Super Nintendo games.

29:04

There's one for the N64 coming out that'll play it in 4K and it's not a new N64.

29:09

It's a computer. It's a device like aftermarket.

29:11

Yeah, you have to specifically say that way, like it'll play those cartridges.

29:15

Basically, we made it at 64 and so I there is a market for that.

29:19

I just don't know how big it is yet. And then there's the balance of well,

29:23

maybe you're capturing our generation, but is that how you keep those doors open?

29:27

You need to capture the younger generation. And are they into physical media at all?

29:30

I don't think so. I don't know if they're even.

29:34

Are they a business for the younger generation? I think they're at the point

29:36

where nostalgia is the only thing keeping their doors open, unfortunately.

29:40

But yeah, I see what you're saying for the long term future.

29:43

I mean, yeah, maybe this will keep them open for ten more years, but for the long term future, they do have to pivot towards

29:49

something new. Nostalgia is only going to, you know, once you've bought the five or 10

29:53

or 50 games that you really liked from your childhood,

29:58

then you're done feeding money into their machine and they're going to need a new source of revenue.

30:01

So yeah, I think that's a good point, that at some point soon

30:05

they're going to have to pivot to something new.

30:08

And it's kind of hard because almost all gaming and entertainment is all online nowadays.

30:15

So I think a physical store for it is kind of not necessary anymore.

30:19

What would you do to save the GameStop company?

30:22

I would I would use the brand completely, pivot it into an arcade.

30:27

You would be. The, you know, GameStop one stop or something like that

30:31

where you come here, you could buy the games if you want.

30:33

We'll have a small corner where we're actually selling the newest game that that's out there,

30:38

but we're also a lounge area and you know where you can

30:41

come and hang out and play with your friends. You don't have to have have it at home and go sit on your friend's couch

30:46

or whatever. You come here after school and play whatever games we got.

30:51

And, you know, part of the store can be an old school arcade to.

30:56

You know. I do see what you're saying there, but I don't know if that's enough.

31:00

Turn around with customers, because then we get to that problem

31:02

where it's like kids are hanging out too much, not spending money.

31:04

The borders problem. Remember the borders bookstore?

31:07

I don't know if I ever bought a book from those people.

31:09

I know I read plenty of them there. Oh man, those poor guys.

31:12

But I would like to see and I know they do it a little bit now.

31:16

They just don't advertise at all. Go full Pokemon cards.

31:19

It's time to, you know, do what comic book store is doing.

31:21

They need to keep the doors open. They they go full Pokemon.

31:24

You give a magic The Gathering and Game Stop.

31:27

It's right there in the name. Just go for it. Just embrace the games and then bring in tournament tables and stuff like that.

31:32

And if you want partner with Pokemon or Wizard, the Wizard of Goes

31:36

and make it a stop that has exclusive drops at GameStop

31:39

or make it a pokey stop for your Pokemon Go.

31:42

I think they could really do that, but make GameStop a place for this is cool.

31:47

Like in-person gaming, not tabletop video games.

31:50

So you get tabletop gaming. You can get your daddy stuff there, much like how book bookstores

31:55

when they're desperate to keep the doors open. They embrace cards a lot, too.

31:58

I know my comic book store has gone way. Overboard with that.

32:01

Yeah, the whole store is just there's.

32:04

Like the back walls where we do call books, like, not what used to be, but okay. Yeah.

32:08

If you want a comic, ask us and we'll see if we got it in a box somewhere.

32:11

That is so stinking true. Do you think that would be feasible for for a company that big as GameStop?

32:16

I think it would be an easy thing to do, a slow rollout on.

32:20

So, I mean, it would start with one of your small shelves in the corner,

32:24

start stocking it with those card games or board games or whatever.

32:28

And then, you know, one day you bring in a single table

32:30

with four chairs and people can sit and play.

32:34

You know, either one of the games that you have there

32:36

or maybe they pay to rent it, one of the games that you have or

32:39

hey, if you want to buy it, you can sit here and play it any of those.

32:42

And then if it starts to seem like they're getting a little bit of traction, then

32:46

you go full bore into it, expand, open a little snack bar while you're at it.

32:51

I know for like squeaks or whatever, he goes to the corner.

32:53

Tournaments, at least. Local comic book shop. Now he beats them and and he does pretty, pretty well.

32:58

And I know kind of specifically says they want to work only with local shops.

33:03

But if you're a bigger company like the coast, who does D&D and Magic The Gathering,

33:07

then you actually want to sign a contract with the big with a big company like this

33:10

has a lot of floor plans, so I think this is an option for them.

33:13

I would like to see them do that. It's just

33:15

I don't know if GameStop knows what they're doing because I know there was one point

33:18

we were talking about how they wanted to create stores that had like

33:22

Zelda themes and stuff like that, but that never came to fruition.

33:26

And now they're doing this next nostalgia thing, and I'm just like, yeah,

33:30

but you know, the nostalgia kids generally don't want to buy limited run games.

33:35

They want to buy the original cartridges. That's the nostalgia aspect of it.

33:39

So you guys are kind of like not really catching the point in my opinion. So

33:44

I don't know. I don't know if they know what they're doing and I don't know how to help them unless I actually do like go in there.

33:48

Totally remodel the business structure from the beginning to the end.

33:51

Yeah, I think you're right that they need a big pivot.

33:53

They need to make a big, big business plan for this change.

33:57

And working with a big company like Wizards of the coast

33:59

would be a smart way to invest in their future.

34:02

Yeah. Where are the Pokemon Company? One of those to kind.

34:05

Of go big in the.

34:12

Jonathan, let's go ahead and get into our views, and I'm gonna have you start us off with the Gladiator two.

34:16

What did you think about this movie. Boys? Gladiator two.

34:18

This was a really good movie for me.

34:21

I don't have anything I don't have.

34:23

Yeah, I don't think I have anything bad to say about it.

34:25

The only thing I wish I had done to

34:28

prepare is watch the original again.

34:31

It's been so long, so many years, and I think it's because the time we live

34:36

in, I'm so used to anything that's related to such an old movie

34:40

because it's been but 15 or 20 years since that we came out.

34:44

Usually anything that's related to such an old movie.

34:47

Oh yeah, it came out in 2000. So it's been 24 years.

34:49

Yeah. Is usually like a complete reboot or a totally different story.

34:53

This one actually followed directly, almost directly after the original story.

34:58

So so much of it was, was relevant.

35:01

And I didn't, you know, remember much, though they recaps a lot of the details,

35:05

but I think that would have been a lot more

35:09

effective or, you know, helpful to be fresh in my mind.

35:13

Rewarding. Rewarding there. Yeah. Yeah.

35:17

And the intro, I gotta say, if I did have a negative

35:20

that like pastel painting or watercolor painting or whatever, it I like that.

35:25

Yeah, I don't know, it did it.

35:27

I after a little while, I could tell it was telling the story

35:30

of the original movie. Yeah, but it was just a little bit too.

35:34

It looks kind of odd on a low budget to me, honestly.

35:37

I see, but yeah, other than that, we had amazing acting.

35:40

I was so happy that the trailer was accurate

35:44

to the movie, because we've seen recently some trailers that are so misleading

35:47

and we're kind of pumped about something, and then it ends up being a flop.

35:51

Especially with Denzel Washington.

35:53

He's such a great actor. He's, you know, obviously an expensive actor to have in your movie.

35:57

And it look, it, I was worried that he was going to be in like 2 or 3 scenes

36:01

and that's what they used for the trailers. And then we would see him again,

36:04

either get killed off or just be a cameo or something like that.

36:07

But no, he was one of the biggest characters in the whole movie

36:11

and just such a phenomenal actor. So cool to see him.

36:14

It's definitely Denzel Washington's movie, and I've heard from multiple sources.

36:18

I think even IGN wrote a whole article about this. Like this movie is is a it's to me, I have it a seven out of ten.

36:24

Which seven out of ten, I think, in my opinion, is like, that's a really good movie I like to watch.

36:27

Not great, not revolutionary.

36:29

Yeah, really good movie. I like to watch and I'd watch again, twister kind of level, you know.

36:34

And so for this,

36:36

I think if they were to just change the edit to where it wasn't

36:39

following the kid, but follow Denzel on this path of manipulation

36:45

and see him kind of twist these different gears the whole.

36:47

Way would. Have been more rewarding, because then by that third act,

36:51

when all of a sudden he ramps

36:53

up, okay, I'm gonna go to spoilers now, so just heads up everybody.

36:55

If you want to skip on this, go ahead, go to wicked.

36:57

But if when he ramps things up and then he starts to actually like,

37:01

kill off one of the emperors and basically tricks the other emperor and

37:05

then eventually kills him off like that ramp up was so fast out of nowhere.

37:10

And it was like if we had gotten a little bit more of him teasing that out, I think that would have been more rewarding.

37:16

What do you think? Maybe. Yeah, I feel like we did see him once we saw him,

37:20

that he kind of we can kind of see the trajectory, like what his plans were.

37:24

Yeah. Then it was like, okay, now you see his cards, he's got to play him.

37:28

So once we knew what his, his scheme was that he actually had so much control,

37:33

then we had to see him flex those muscles I think. So it was kind of

37:36

you aren't sure through the first half or so that you can really trust him.

37:40

Maybe he's actually a good advisor and not trying to take power.

37:44

And then it's like, oh yeah, I know he's taking power. And here it is. Like all all in one. Yeah.

37:49

I think a good example of that, just to jump in real quick is the guy is what he used to initially take power.

37:54

And the guy that kept getting into gambling debts with him

37:56

the whole time I'm watching this, I'm like, oh, it's like a joking thing where the guy,

38:00

he's going to get a house and I'm rooting for him. And then there's a certain moment where the turn happens where you're like,

38:04

oh no, that guy's a senator. He's using him to get into the Emperor's court, and then that guy's backing him up.

38:10

When he takes over. It's like. It wasn't about just, like, fun little story about him

38:14

getting the guy's house. It was actually part of the play.

38:16

Yeah, he's. He's just so, so sly about it.

38:20

Yeah, yeah, but there's a plenty other good things about the movie.

38:23

You know, the other actors were great. Pedro Pascal, Joseph Quinn, they're all good.

38:28

I did, I loved the settings of these,

38:31

the sets that they used, they were so massive, I can't imagine.

38:34

I mean, the sets might have cost more than the actors.

38:36

It seemed like it was just huge, especially.

38:40

I mean, obviously they used the the Coliseum or the arena.

38:44

Yeah. What do you call it. For a 52 degree, right.

38:46

Like you can tell the Baxter CGI stuff like that, but still like a lot of the actual on ground stuff is all real.

38:51

Yeah. Kind of much like I, Ridley Scott did the 2000 version, like a lot of that was actually in place to CGI background.

38:57

Yeah. So they did a lot of these scenes where it looks like

38:59

they did at least a good job with the CGI, where it looks like

39:02

you have this huge city in the background, and they would kind of pan through it.

39:05

I like that they did enough to where you felt the scale of it, but then it wasn't like showy.

39:11

It wasn't like avatar, where it's got to be all about the CGI

39:14

and stuff like that, like, no, no, no, we have a good story to get to.

39:16

We just want you to understand the scope of where you're at

39:18

and how big this city was for being thousands of years ago,

39:22

you know, at a time where this this didn't exist anywhere else on the planet.

39:27

Get but especially I love

39:31

the I think you mentioned it before we even saw the movie.

39:34

The water battle scenes inside the inside the arena, how they fill it with water.

39:40

And that you said that was truly something they did back there.

39:42

That is something that they've done. Yeah, yeah.

39:45

It's so crazy. That just seems like a feat that could not be replicated today.

39:48

But I mean, they did it.

39:51

They also do it used to do it like Elizabeth in theaters too,

39:54

to like where Shakespeare used to do his plays. They would also flood the theater and do little ship battles there.

39:59

That's so crazy. It's crazy. But at the same time you think, well, if our world was built, wasn't wrapped

40:05

around technology, if there wasn't wires in the floor, then yeah, why not?

40:09

If it's brick walls and, you know, dirt on the ground, then sure,

40:13

fill it with water. It's just going to drain with time and everything will be okay.

40:16

So there's this weird thing with Rome, that whole thing that was like in 2023,

40:20

I think was like, the guys think about Rome all the time,

40:22

which I definitely fall into that myself. There's a weird thing with Rome where, like, Rome was hyper advanced.

40:27

When you compare it to things just a couple years afterwards,

40:30

then went through the dark ages after the collapse of Rome where like, it seemed like technology just stopped.

40:34

It definitely did stop, but also kind of reversed

40:37

because the aqueduct system and all these different complex stuff

40:41

just didn't happen. So then also, we've slowly built it back to where it felt like

40:45

it was finally getting back into there in like the late 1700s.

40:48

But when you go back to that Roman times, what, it's just 400 A.D.

40:52

and it's like, how are we so freaking advanced?

40:55

How was people so advanced back then?

40:57

And I think there's something that's really special about,

41:00

you know, about Rome. When you see it on screen, you're just like, in wonderment

41:03

of something that's almost like an Atlantis feeling.

41:06

It comes from being from the Roman society. Yeah, yeah.

41:08

I think we see the same thing when we look at the, you know, us

41:12

and like the 1800s and we're seeing like the industrial revolution here.

41:15

It's like there's something so magical about this time.

41:18

It's unfortunate. There's a massive imbalance in power.

41:21

Anytime you see those areas.

41:23

Thing with the Rome one though. I mean. We're watching that.

41:26

But it's it's a time of of massive growth and expansion and innovation.

41:30

So there's always some new changing technology on the horizon that people are pursuing.

41:35

And I think it's, you see, like a city full of hope and drive.

41:40

It's moving forward towards something is exciting to see in a movie and show, too.

41:45

What did you think about the main character? Paul Mescal plays Lucius.

41:48

I think he did great for his character, but I think kind of like

41:51

you were hinting at his character. Isn't the whole movie it.

41:54

We're we follow him. But it's not all about I mean, yeah, it's not all about him.

42:00

Really. Yeah. There's so much going on within the other characters

42:03

that he doesn't need to really carry it himself.

42:07

I think he did great in, you know, pretty much being a lot

42:10

like his dad, Russell Crowe's character in the previous movie.

42:14

Yeah. I didn't expect anything more out of him.

42:17

I think very serviceable is the term I keep thinking about

42:21

when I think about him, like he did. He did the job like he got hired to be an actor, didn't add anything to the role.

42:26

And and I think what's hard is he's compared to Russell Crowe,

42:29

who I mean, pull the entire scene into his body, right?

42:32

Like Russell Crowe standing in the middle of the Coliseum for some reason, felt picked in the Colosseum like he was so such a grand character.

42:38

And I think Paul kind of is shadowed by the greater characters around him

42:42

because, well, Russell Crowe was the most interesting person in that coliseum.

42:45

When we put this guy in the Coliseum, watching Pedro Pascal was more interesting

42:49

by watching Denzel Washington sitting behind the Emperor

42:51

and watching the emperors. They're wacky and crazy, too. Joseph Quinn, fantastic job.

42:55

Yeah, I think that's hard to. And it's even his mom did a good job of retaining character.

42:58

So I think part of the problem in that isn't necessarily sure.

43:02

Maybe his acting wasn't 100%, but I think the bigger part of the problem

43:05

is the writing in his character, who is character, is.

43:08

Very, very true. Russell Crowe was the the white cowboy with the cowboy with the white hat.

43:13

He stood for pure moral good.

43:16

And we wanted him to win no matter what. And we knew his death was going to be his release.

43:20

And we were rooting for him to achieve his goal before that, kind of

43:23

before they came where his son, we don't really know where he stands for like half the movie.

43:29

We don't know if he knows who he is or what his purpose is.

43:33

Is he going to try to kill his mom because he doesn't

43:36

really know who she is or understand, you know, her perspective.

43:40

So he's in a gray area to us throughout most of the movie,

43:43

so you can't really rally behind him.

43:47

You're just hoping that he at least disrupts this

43:49

corrupt government that, you know, we're seeing just getting even worse.

43:53

And before our eyes. And they force him to be in the gray area, right?

43:57

Because with his mom being technically on the other side and definitely his stepdad pretty much being on the opposite side,

44:03

they're definitely in a gray area. So they need you to kind of not necessarily say go against them 100%.

44:08

And it really his strongest scenes, I think, are actually in the beginning

44:12

when he's in the war against Rome. And that was really cool to see him rallying his troops for a real cause.

44:17

And they want to try to rally his troops. You're just like, yeah, yeah, yeah, go out there, do something.

44:20

I want to see if Denzel kills the emperor. You know.

44:23

Like that, like I want to see what Pedro Pascal does.

44:25

Try to convince you at the last second. Oh, again, very dependent on the characters

44:28

and in a way that I don't think he had a problem with in the first movie.

44:32

And, and, and when you said it, I realized you're right.

44:35

It is the writing. It wasn't necessarily his performance.

44:37

So we got to give it to the writer on it. So let's give a score for this one. John.

44:40

Personally, I'm giving it a seven out of ten. Not bad.

44:43

Definitely worth the rewatch. And if you're if you're free on a weekend, definitely worth the theater watch.

44:48

I think you have to watch in theaters. Yeah, I'm going to go away.

44:51

I'm gonna say A99. Okay, well, I would definitely watch the original beforehand

44:56

because there's a lot of ties to it and just keep it fresh in your mind.

45:00

But it's just such a solid movie. I would I would go watch it again if I had free time.

45:04

And, you know, nothing else to do on the weekend, which we have a lot of plans coming soon, but,

45:08

I would just go to the theaters again to see it a second time.

45:12

Yeah, totally worth a watch.

45:14

All right, let's go ahead and move on to wicked. Jordan, you haven't had a chance to watch wicked, right? I have not.

45:18

It looked good from the trailers. I know a lot of people don't like musicals.

45:21

It was very transparent that it's a musical.

45:23

So I hope if people that like them winds up.

45:25

But it looked good to me. I go spoiler free first on this and ask questions

45:29

as we go along for anything you might have. But my question for you first job.

45:33

Did you know that this is a part one and there's a part two coming later on?

45:36

Oh, I know I do. I cannot believe that they're not marketing that.

45:40

Yeah. You I the directors like I thought everybody would have assumed it was only

45:43

a part one. No, it's part one.

45:46

The movie doesn't have an ending. It stops halfway through.

45:49

And I'm just like, it was very much Spider-Man for me.

45:51

I'm like, what the fuck? Right?

45:53

The I imagine, I mean, I don't know, maybe they would have made that in case

45:57

it was a major flop, that they could just not have a part two because we didn't tell nobody about it.

46:02

But did you have to at least write a somewhat sound ending

46:06

to this potentially only story? If you're not going to?

46:09

It does a great spot. We were like, oh shit, going down.

46:12

Can't wait to get back to this. Yeah, so definitely ends with a really good.

46:15

So let me kind of go over this will be spoiler free, but I went in.

46:18

First off, I truly dislike musicals.

46:21

Yes, I'll watch the Disney movies.

46:23

Don't get on me. But I just don't care for them at all.

46:26

And I was surprisingly happy with the Wonka movie

46:29

that came out a bit ago that had musical elements.

46:31

That was good, but. This one has far more.

46:34

And the music part of it was, you know, whatever.

46:37

I'm not a fan of it. I literally just like, open up Pokemon packs on the Pokemon app.

46:41

What's going on? But everything else was so sound.

46:45

Beautifully done. A lot of physical effects and a lot of practical effects.

46:50

There was CGI when there was CGI, I felt like they blended together

46:53

too much, as in like, oh, it's a gold city with like a shiny sunrise, or like,

46:57

you know, yellow and yellow stuff like that. But it starts off in a school environment.

47:01

Again, I knew nothing about wicked guys. I just knew it was something to do with Wizard of Oz.

47:05

And it's it's a prequel movie or play about the witches from Wizard of Oz.

47:11

And so the beginning is kind of like a Harry Potter witch.

47:14

Now, I'm saying that people who know stuff are like, yeah, Harry Potter got it from wicked.

47:17

So you get that.

47:19

But it's just like school where it's like gifted witches and stuff and elf.

47:23

But Elsa Elba, yeah, is one that like, they don't have to give any spoilers,

47:28

but anyways is very good at being a witch and she has green skin.

47:31

She was born with a mother in the family, and that seems to be the theme of wicked

47:36

is a friendship that is forged with complications of of

47:41

why you're doing something and how you're doing something.

47:44

And, and then like personal identity and being, alienated and prosecuted.

47:50

So there's a lot of really interesting themes in this.

47:52

And again, I'm going in thinking like, I don't care to see people seeing a dance.

47:55

And then by the end I'm just like, she's right, but don't hurt people.

47:59

But oh, she has to hurt people. Like it's complicated.

48:01

You know, it's really interesting like that. And then there's this whole thing where in Before Oz stuff,

48:08

Wizard of Oz or whatever. Animals had a lot more of a right to speak and be a part of society.

48:13

And then what's apparently happening is they're being phased out

48:16

and they want only humans in, like, for example, there's a goat

48:20

that teaches a class, they eventually kick him out and human replaces him.

48:24

And it's like the go to good professor. He's, you know, but he's but they're losing their rights.

48:29

And so then you're like, okay. Yeah. Again, there's class disparity.

48:32

This is a lot more complicated than something you dancing.

48:35

And I was highly impressed. And I and I will admit

48:38

I was messaging Thomas being like, this shit sucks because I hate dancing.

48:42

But it grew on me quickly, especially once they got to be on the school

48:46

and they go to the Emerald City. They made a city that was so bad ass

48:50

very, steampunk, you know?

48:53

But like, with more magic and more whimsy, Jeff Goldblum plays the Wizard of Oz.

49:00

I never have seen a more perfect Jeff.

49:02

Goldblum roll character. Yeah, you have to play a.

49:05

Fake wizard that that's trying to trick everybody, and it's full of himself.

49:08

Okay, Jeff Goldblum. This is perfect. Yeah.

49:12

Do I put on my pantsuit? What do we do? Anything. Yeah.

49:15

Michelle Yeoh plays this kind of, like, headmistress of the school who's also in league with the Wizard of Oz.

49:20

And it was a delight. I was really, really impressed with it.

49:24

If you're not a musical fan, I would give it a shot.

49:27

If you are a musical fan, I can imagine this has to be like a perfect movie.

49:30

I cannot imagine what you didn't like about this movie.

49:32

It same thing. I've never watched,

49:35

whatever this is called. The we had the players. I'm like you? Yeah,

49:40

just Wizard of Oz, but is this, like an adventure?

49:42

Kind of story? Like Wizard of Oz is where people come together

49:45

and they have to make their way. Trials. Oh, God. Not good.

49:47

Not really. Actually, it's a little bit more.

49:50

At first I was getting Mean Girls vibes.

49:52

Oh, like like loosely.

49:54

Like, there's the popular girl and the nerd

49:57

and the nerd of the popular girl team up to be actual best friends.

50:00

And I was like, this is the totally not.

50:03

What I was expecting from this. Is the fact that this is very much a like a Wednesday.

50:07

Remember Wednesday on, Netflix is it felt like Wednesday, a. Lot.

50:11

Like Wednesday. And then eventually it's like, okay, now take those two characters

50:15

and send them to go meet the president and the presidents.

50:18

Actually, you know, schemer and and everybody worships the president.

50:22

It's it was fascinating in that way. It was really pretty interesting.

50:26

So how was like you mentioned, the CGI was a little odd, but like, other than that and visual effects,

50:31

I mean, this was a play at one point, but now they made it a full blown movie.

50:36

What? How was it visually? Great call on that job.

50:38

And the fact that it was a play, I think is why the physical effects work

50:42

so well specifically like they there's one part where else but Albert

50:47

Johnson crosses big gap like she she uses some of her which powers

50:51

because it's big. And it was all done through rope and wire.

50:53

But they did it really well. And and then there's one part where she flying on a broom

50:58

and you're like, son of a gun. That's a tricky move to do. That's amazing.

51:02

So the physical, practical effects were very well done.

51:05

The classrooms and stuff like that were very beautiful.

51:08

It was kind of like Harry Potter, but with a little bit more gold, a little bit more color added to everything.

51:13

But yeah, the CGI was mostly used for background stuff, even I read.

51:17

Fun fact I actually put off a challenge accepted this morning

51:20

where the director wanted to use practical effects so much that they planted

51:23

like over a million flowers around the Munchkin Town.

51:26

It's just in the very beginning of the movie. Yeah, it's.

51:29

But they planted all these flowers just so that the flowers are actually bloom.

51:31

And then a few CGI for it is.

51:34

That's crazy. I mean, if you're just like, have a plane fly over a seed, you just seed it,

51:38

you know, a few months in advance that's not so bad, but you're digging

51:40

small holes and putting, you know, already blossom flowers in the ground.

51:45

That's going to take forever. Yeah. I wonder if they actually planted seeds.

51:48

Now I'm thinking about maybe they just waited for it to grow.

51:50

To just get in with a helicopter or something.

51:52

Yeah. Yeah, I know you kind of touched on it already

51:55

with the disparaging and whatnot, but what do you think was the overall,

51:59

like moral or message of the story, and was it too obvious or was it kind of hard to pull out in the story?

52:04

I would say there's an obvious one and a not obvious one.

52:07

I think the not obvious one is the friendship is like this bond,

52:10

this friendship. It's complicated and not necessarily in the same.

52:14

Like like your identity might clash with your friendship,

52:16

but is it still worth having a friendship if it does? I think that's kind of the complicated one.

52:20

The less complicated one is definitely about the idea

52:23

that you have to break beyond society's discriminations.

52:26

And, they use the animals in the beginning to kind of sound that.

52:29

But then also there's, you know, the green skin that she has.

52:32

And so there's a lot of themes there. I, that I could be like, oh, okay.

52:35

I see what they try to say with our own society. It's hitting the head on that pretty heavily.

52:39

But it's a play, I think that happens often in musicals.

52:41

It's like they're like, you know, oh yeah, that's obvious.

52:44

And and there's definitely a disparity between like class systems.

52:47

The munchkins are immediately looked down upon.

52:49

And it was it was pretty obvious, but I think well received.

52:53

I would love to see what other people think about this. Like if you take go see this, take the family.

52:57

I think the family would love this. I'd love to hear what like Susan says about this.

53:01

Now, you know you haven't watched any other musicals to compare.

53:03

Whether you think this is good or bad compared to other musicals, right?

53:06

So I've seen Wonka and

53:10

I think that, oh, I saw I saw cats as part of judges.

53:13

Oh yeah. Louis has a dare. Pretty much. Right.

53:15

Yeah. All right. So how does it compare to cats?

53:18

So I really like cats music, actually.

53:20

I kind of liked cats. I might like musicals. Yeah.

53:24

You don't see me. No, but I liked cats. Music, especially memories.

53:27

I sing that one still in Wonka.

53:29

I really liked because of the world building.

53:31

And that is definitely an aspect of this is the world building.

53:34

Okay, I need to read The Wizard of Oz books because I know it's

53:37

it's like a lot more lore than what's in the movie.

53:41

And so maybe The Wizard of Oz books will be a good thing to visit.

53:44

Like I. All right. What would you rate this editing?

53:48

I went with eight out of ten. So that's pretty high.

53:51

Didn't you just reading that Gladiator is seven?

53:53

I know, I know. Do you think this is better than Gladiator?

53:56

But not like musical, I know it's crazy, right?

53:59

Would you go see a live action play of this?

54:03

Probably would. Yeah, I think the I think the live action play, I would, I wouldn't care about it beforehand,

54:07

but because of the movie I probably go watch it.

54:09

Guys, I think it's official. Frank loves musicals.

54:12

I freaking love musical guys.

54:14

I honestly, I was thoroughly on Instagram and on that

54:18

new Pokemon app during the music parts, but it was a music part.

54:21

It was like watching a new Harry Potter, honestly. So.

54:23

And then when they went to that city, I was like, oh wow, it's all steampunk.

54:26

It looked really neat. And the train, you got to see this train drawn.

54:29

It's like there's like green bullet train. Yeah. So there is a lot of stuff that you guys would like there.

54:34

I thought it was quite good. I'm now I'm seeing a lot of TikToks about wicked also.

54:37

And something. The algorithm knows that I'm into it all of a sudden.

54:40

It's an eight is not perfect though.

54:42

Of course there's a lot of things and I am biased, as in someone who doesn't quite like musicals,

54:46

so it might fluctuate a little bit, but just in the production alone, eight is is.

54:50

Definitely what it. All right, let's go

54:55

ahead and head over to our interview with Megan from Vigilante Vibes.

54:59

Megan has a podcast with Vigilante Vibes that is all about inclusivity

55:03

in Marvel fandoms. It's a place where, if you're a marvel fan at all,

55:08

you can go without anybody harshing what you already love

55:11

and not talking smack about, oh, Captain America, this or Hulk that.

55:15

You could just go and enjoy yourself.

55:17

Megan is available on threads Instagram, blue Sky and I like

55:20

let's go in here for Megan and vigilante vibes right now.

55:24

Megan, you have this amazing podcast

55:27

that invites everybody from the fandoms to come and hang out with you.

55:30

What was your reason for starting this podcast?

55:34

Well, I have grown up on Marvel.

55:36

It's always been my thing since I was little, I when I didn't even know it was Marvel.

55:40

I still like the characters and with time the fandom has gotten pretty horrid.

55:45

It's gotten homophobic, sexist, racist, just all these horrible things.

55:51

And I didn't want that. I wanted to talk about it without any of that.

55:57

I didn't like listening to podcasts or watching something on TV

56:02

or on the internet that was like, okay, this is going well,

56:04

but when or when is this you going to draw? When are they going to say something that's like, okay, we're not aligned.

56:11

So I wanted to have a podcast that

56:13

gave people just kind of like a safe space somewhere just to hang out.

56:17

And it's not just Marvel. I have all so many guests from so many fandoms that I'm learning

56:23

about new fandoms in the process, which is really, really fun, too.

56:28

And all of the people I bring on are also about those nontoxic vibes.

56:32

So it's nice to see so many creators who are just in

56:38

for this idea and do want to see changes in all of these fandoms.

56:42

Yeah yeah yeah.

56:44

Why complain when like, we get to celebrate escaping

56:47

all the problems we have in our real life with Marvel and whatnot?

56:50

So yeah, I'm totally on board with that idea.

56:53

You're saying you're you're learning about new fandoms.

56:55

Is there anything you've learned about your favorite fandom, say, Marvel

56:58

and a new fandom that you really enjoy as well?

57:00

Is there something you're learning that. I'm actually learning more about DC.

57:04

I am a DC fan, but I have I haven't dived into the comics

57:08

and I'm learning about that, so I'm pretty excited about that.

57:12

And I've gotten to interview some of the DC comic writers like Kelly Thompson, Tom King.

57:17

So that was that's been really exciting to.

57:20

Wow, there's some heavy hitters. I know there's.

57:23

A bomb king. I'll pick up any Tom King books.

57:25

Chuck Taylor to. Black Canary, best of the best. It's new.

57:29

I'm I will check. Yeah. It comes out this week.

57:31

Tom King wrote it. It's incredible I love it.

57:34

And he really wants to see it go the distance.

57:37

So go pick it up. Yeah. Wreck.

57:40

The off topic I love Black Canary and Arrow.

57:42

That's that. That's when I first kind of found Black Canary and I was like,

57:44

okay, like cooler than I ever knew before. So I'm on board of that for sure.

57:49

So you have this podcast Vigilante Vibes. What is the what is your plans for social media?

57:53

What's your plans for? Because I know on social media you are crazy active.

57:57

You're always going to post stuff.

57:59

What are your plans for the future of vigilante vibes.

58:01

Just to make a difference, I don't expect.

58:03

Yeah, I don't expect anything huge like a payment

58:07

of any kind or anything big like that because it's such it.

58:11

You guys know it's such a competitive field. This is kind of just my passion.

58:15

I just want to see it make a difference. That's it.

58:17

And if it changes one person's perspective on the fandom, then I'm good.

58:22

That's beautiful. Thank you. Yeah. You got any questions, Thomas?

58:25

I don't want to, No, I, I was not prepared for this.

58:31

But. Yeah, I, I don't know. Yeah, I guess I just have a statement more,

58:35

but I guess I do feel that from your posts, like, I feel that you do

58:39

want to give people just an open space to talk, but also celebrate, you know, like it.

58:45

I guess sometimes it can seem cheesy to people to celebrate things or just love something.

58:49

And I very much want to push back against that, just internally as to who I am.

58:54

And I feel that from you, like you really do want to give people this opportunity.

58:58

Just like share why you love this thing.

59:01

And I don't know, it's nice. It is refreshing.

59:04

I think, you know, I think there's I do try to go out of my way to support

59:08

other creators like I'll randomly post, like, where can I follow you?

59:14

Where can I support you? Because I think, I think the more nontoxic spaces

59:20

we have takes away from where toxicity is. So

59:25

I do want everyone to celebrate. I do want everyone to enjoy what they're doing.

59:30

I don't want you to be belittled because you like this or you don't.

59:35

Where do you? You choose? The next place you want to spotlight is there is there fan submission,

59:40

or is you just kind of following what you're most interested in?

59:43

Comics ones are usually drawn by whatever comics they just read, and,

59:47

you know, you reach out to the creator and then you try to collaborate

59:50

with the other stuff. It's more it's what I'm into at that current moment,

59:56

or it's what the people I'm bringing on want to talk about.

59:59

Like last night I interviewed someone named Jeremy Plummer.

1:00:03

He's a great comedian, hilarious guy. If you haven't checked him out, check him out.

1:00:07

He wanted to talk about New Comic Book Day, the things that have come out

1:00:10

and that will come out. So we kind of just played off that for a long time.

1:00:14

I like that, yeah, it's a lot more conversational that way.

1:00:17

You're inviting everybody, including your listeners, in on the conversation.

1:00:19

Yeah, I like to just just kind of make it free flowing.

1:00:22

Not like have this huge editorial written out

1:00:24

like I've done it in the past and you're just reading to a screen.

1:00:28

It's not fun at all. It just feels so cheesy to me.

1:00:31

What is your what is your go to podcast that you find comfort in mine?

1:00:35

I'm just kidding. Yeah. I hope.

1:00:39

That's always the real answer to another. Podcast.

1:00:41

But again, same story. I never listen to mine.

1:00:44

I cannot do it. Never. I, I overthink things of too much anxiety and I'll be like, why do I say that?

1:00:50

But I used to listen to The Office Ladies, which has oh, that's.

1:00:55

A good one. Isn't it? But lately I've, I've taken it on so many people I said I would follow,

1:01:02

so I just kind of like, listen to every single episode.

1:01:06

Like I have it going in my off my phone, like when I'm cleaning the house

1:01:09

or I'm doing anything so I don't listen to a specific one,

1:01:12

but one I will say is really, I love these guys.

1:01:17

They're called the fandom, and both they nontoxic vibes.

1:01:20

Damn cool people. They're incredible.

1:01:22

If you also haven't, check them out, you should.

1:01:25

Nice. All right. Well. Sentimental. That does it. Yeah.

1:01:28

Is there anything you find, like in your own life

1:01:31

that is not Marvel or fandom related, but you feel like it really brings

1:01:37

that you bring it into your podcast.

1:01:40

You know, like things going on outside life. There's a few.

1:01:44

I have a business that's called decor for nerds.

1:01:48

I make decor for nerds. Like, I just made a coffee table

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with refurbished comic books, that kind of thing.

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Cool. Yeah. So my life is really, really nerdy,

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except the part of me that really loves the UFC. But I think that's what drives my toxicity. So

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yeah. That must be. Is that like a personal challenge?

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I mean, like UFC, you know, it has a certain

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not everybody, but it has some certain personalities.

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Does it make you also want to combat toxicity everywhere

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or does it give you motivation to kind of combat it

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in your comic focused life

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everywhere? Because when I dive too far into it, like if I go into the Facebook groups

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or the comments and people are like, Yuri sucks, I'm like, oh, I'm about to roast you on there.

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It it, I see it now. I see the toxicity and how it starts because I could see it with me.

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So it does make me super aware of how it starts and how you can take it to heart.

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It's a it's amazing anytime I like a post as well or something like that.

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And it's just it doesn't take long for like,

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oh man, this is not going to be good. Because as soon as it starts

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to get past the small algorithm and into the next level of algorithms,

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and it's like, we're going to get those assholes

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that just want to say something for the sake of saying something.

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And it's like, yeah, there's there's no reason to be toxic, but there's people who get the joy

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out of being toxic, you know? Yeah, that's my daughter.

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Hey, how's it going? Hello. That's a good reason, right?

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You got to call mama. Today to focus on on toxicity right there.

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Yeah, there's two of them. They're both fighting over the bag of chips right now.

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I guess they realized they could break into that cabinet.

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Okay, but we.

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Won't keep you for too much longer. There's that. You can go fend off the chips.

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Yeah. Megan, we really appreciate you joining us today both on Challenge Accepted.

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And then we're going to share this across all the network as well.

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One more time. Where can people find you. You can find me anywhere on most social medias under Vigilante Vibes podcast.

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I'm not on Twitter. I'm I may not be on Twitter much longer, so I don't know.

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But blue sky threads into Instagram, Facebook.

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You can find me in my nontoxic nerd culture group called the Nerd Haven.

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It's 54,000,

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like minded nerds who just want to chill the nontoxic vibes.

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You can find me on YouTube, Vigilante Vibes Pod,

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and on Apple and Spotify under Vigilante Vibes podcast.

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All right, so as soon as I, Thomas, you're in charge of figuring out Facebook.

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I'm so bad at Facebook, you're in charge of that. I'm putting you in charge.

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I'll take care of threads. And blue Sky. Doesn't use Facebook. Yeah, I'll figure it out.

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That's my. I'm so bad about it. I'm better. I yeah.

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I hate it, but I love it. I wish I was okay. Yeah.

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Especially if you find like minded people. I'm sure it's a lot better than some of the stuff we probably see.

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Yeah, yeah, I. Got some uncles I need. I.

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Yeah. Got.

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All right. So, everybody, I want you to stop what you're doing right now.

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Go into the description and follow up on vigilante vibes and drop a review.

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And as a scribe, make sure you start listening today

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and check out everything that Megan has to offer. Again, Megan, thank you very much for joining us.

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I really appreciate you. For having me. I've known Thomas for a while and I've been a big fan of those.

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So nice to meet you. So hopefully we can do this again.

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Hopefully you guys will come on my podcast and then

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and we'll pick another movie to make Thomas cry.

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I think that'd be nice. Yeah, done. Pretty easy. It's fun.

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Yeah, I know.

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The Geek Pantry and, what we do is we talk about a different one of our animals each each week

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and push people to go over and donate money to the Elk Grove Animal shelter.

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We just had our first 100 bucks. Thank you guys so much for your donations.

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We appreciate that. Our goal is a thousand

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by the end of December, so we'll see how that goes.

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But last work, last time we heard about Elsa,

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the last time around, we heard about Elsa. This time we're going to talk about ang ang,

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who is literally from the Elk Grove Animal shelter, which usually is sleeping on that chair.

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But this time he's not. Of course, he's probably sleeping underneath me.

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I'll tell another story at the end that's even good.

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Anyways, so it was the pandemic, and the Elk Grove Animal Shelter

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needed people to pick up dogs because they had a hard time with the pandemic, as all shelters did.

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And I was perusing and I kept seeing dogs like, you know, a little bit too big.

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I had beads at the time. It was a big dog, and by chance I came across one night.

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It was like 1:00 in the morning and I checked the site

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and they had three pug called pug.

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It's half pug, half beagle and as if I calling from God,

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they were named Ang Saka and Zuku and I was like, oh my God.

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That is great.

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So. And ang was the cutest one. And he had

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he has a lighter color and he actually looks more like Beagle than the other two.

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And so I right away, you know, like, yeah, I would gladly take ang I'll take the other two too.

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This house is pretty big enough. I was all excited.

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And so they got Ahold of me and they said, well first off you don't have one

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and ang is already called. Where would you like Saka?

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And so I was like, I'd be happy to have Saka.

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So but the way they do things at the Oak Grove Animal Shelter is you go the day

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before you adopt an animal and you have to meet the animal.

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And of course, this is all make sense. You meet the animal,

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make sure you bond well at the animal, and then they they neutered or spayed them

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and then you get them the day after, which is a tough day for them.

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Like, oh, here's my forever home. Wait, what's going on next? And so I met ang, and he wanted his freaking out here in his name

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so many times, and he jumped up into my arms, like, jumped into my arms

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and did not want to be dropped, put back down. I didn't want to put it back down either.

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And yeah, it was kismet. That was definitely going to be a dog I owned.

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And so sure enough with the work, he got neutered the next day,

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brought him home and he was been a best friend of mine for years now.

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Since the pandemic. It was by far the best thing kind of 2020, which is not a high bar.

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But yeah, the Elk Grove Animal Shelter did all those services and everything like that, and they helped

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a bunch of dogs in the pandemic. It was fantastic.

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And you guys can help to the links in the description if you guys want to donate.

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Now again we're gonna be running this, this charity through the end of the year and every little penny counts.

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So we really appreciate the help. But yeah, that's that's still preventable. Shelter.

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All right guys, thank you very much for joining us again.

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The pet pantry link in the description box. You guys can donate to the Elk Grove Animal Shelter

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and help them as they find a forever homes for dogs, cats and a like.

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Thank you again for joining us. And we'll see you guys next week.