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Hey. Oh, what a geek. Freaks. I am Frank and I'm joined by Jonathan.

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Well, hello. We have squeak. Squeak. Oh.

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All right, so hopefully that didn't blow you guys out.

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We were recording in person, so that was extremely loud for all of us.

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So this is new to me. Meanwhile, if the mic sound differently, it's

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because, yeah, we are recording a person amongst the indie minis.

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We just finished our, latest D&D session.

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How did the session goes? Guys, that was. Very successful.

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Yeah. That's fun. Yeah. You guys are now level seven.

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Terrible roles, though. For most of it. Yeah, actually you guys kind of got lucky with the

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like the battlefield roles, everything else that you guys didn't.

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Rules worked out well for you guys. Yeah. But yeah.

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What are some of the things you've learned from this session

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that you were looking forward to using more? I like drawing you get that ice knife. That was pretty good. Move it.

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We got to use more often. Yeah, yeah, it's a good attack.

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It like, you know, you throw this dagger pretty much, and then it explodes.

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It does, aerial area damage. Yeah.

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And then I go use mold Earth to pull down the roof, a stone roof,

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and kind of crush. So, Opie. Yeah.

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I was gonna say mine was more risk taking.

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I'm tired of being too cautious. So that's why I was like, blowing up, these traps.

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Essentially at least risk taking.

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Member of the party. Now, you made a second deal with the devil, and he's supposed to be a paladin.

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This is. Yeah, I'm a paladin. Went to the corrupted as the.

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Damn. I had to give him some, like, tiefling horns because I was like, okay, at this point. I'm.

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And I like how Daniel is, like, so overly cautious with making Guy.

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You're going to lose your soul. It's like not your real soul that. Oh yeah.

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So it's like, make a move, man. Damn. Man.

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And he's so worried about this one like, artifact that he had in his personal campaign.

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Oh, when you guys are away, it's back. And it's been.

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I would empower him, but he'd eventually lose his mind.

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But he's so worried about that that all he's like, let me get back to there and get this thing.

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As I was waiting for him to mention it when I was opening the portal back to his place. Right.

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He was like, let me. Go through it. It'll make him lose his mind.

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So maybe it's like Gollum, pursuing the ring where it's kind of, like, always on my mind.

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Even if he's not wearing it. That's good. That's cool, I like that.

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All right, let's get into this episode. We're gonna be starting off with our question of the week.

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Question is, which franchise do you think is the most overrated?

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We ask this over on threads. And why are you guys thinking about this? I'll go over some of the other answers. We've got.

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The Infinity Bro's said Fast and Furious.

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I couldn't care less about any of the new films.

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Yeah, for me it was like five. I think it was the last time I gave a crap about that show.

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That two. Is two is my favorite and that was. It.

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There you go. Well, that was pretty long. Next one is maybe a controversial take, and definitely one that makes me question

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my own need. Nerd cred.

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But I do not care for, Dune.

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This is from quite a draw stuff.

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Could draw stuff, I guess. But yeah. So not caring about doing, I get it.

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It is a definitely a major vibe.

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But you have to just kind of get along with. And I know that, like,

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Thomas doesn't care for questioning the morality stuff like that.

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He doesn't. He's just, like, just so cool. Shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Look at that. Geeking out with Ethan said Sonic the Hedgehog is overrated.

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Whoa. Oh, I don't know. Video games. Of movies.

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The franchise. No, man.

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No, no. That's crazy. No. Yeah. No.

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I think it's I think it's great. And I think we luckily, the movies have kind of reinvigorate.

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We've revitalized the franchise.

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So I would disagree with that one, but. Yeah.

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What do you guys think? We'll start with you, John, while you're over there. Cooking is going to be highly controversial.

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Oh, boy. Especially this week. Sit next to me.

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But to say it's overrated, I think is fair.

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Is Harry Potter. So.

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Especially as a person who hasn't read the books, I just watched them all watch the movies.

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I don't think I saw the newest of them all.

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I don't think I saw the last one. That's crazy.

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But, yeah, it's like, the first 2 or 3 were good, but,

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yeah, I don't know, they were. I mean, the fact that people rage about rave about them and it's such a big deal,

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you know, in the culture and stuff. It's like, it's it's cool, it's fun. But they are fun.

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Yeah. I could see, like, Game of. Thrones is a lot better of a story to me in the similar kind of realm. So.

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Well, that's if we're on contract.

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Don't renew this. Guys, right?

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I dang if I had to pick one, I would say,

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oh man, really, just hop on top of my head is the Jurassic World series.

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I don't know if why people rave about that or not. It's got some good elements, but it always.

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Does very good at the box office. Yeah, yeah, right.

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Yes. But, I just don't see after the first one

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you took, you basically copy cat. Really. Right.

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Jurassic road, the first one was essentially Jurassic Park and.

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Yeah, but we get to see the point on it. We get to see the park come alive right over. Yeah.

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And that's kind of like the the new Star Wars series, with,

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Rey, where it just kind of

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stole from the original source and then kind of tried to expand it.

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Yeah, I mean, Jurassic World, I don't know how, you know, crazy popular that is.

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Yeah, yeah. Care so much if people here here's the thing.

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Yeah. Here we go. Yellowstone. All Yellowstone is overrated. Yeah.

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And you get to watch that. Yellowstone. Exactly. And people rave about it so passionately.

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I think it's like a modern day soap opera, honestly.

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And which. That's fine. A lot of people love soap operas, but I don't think it's

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worth the attention that people give it.

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Yeah. And I think with our country being divided in the perspectives and stuff that it might support, maybe

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that's part of it or something like that, or, you know, I see a lot of that, bro.

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I just you watch it just maybe don't watch other good shows.

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That's probably it. Yeah. It probably pulls in the type of people that aren't normally TV show fans.

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Yeah, I think it pulls in the people who think like not.

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I'm not talking shit about anybody. Let me clarify that. Yeah, but like people who think Walking Dead's the peak of television within

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Yellowstone is even better. Oh, what it is.

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What do you. I'm saying, like, there are so many other really good shows that are just not really and.

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They haven't given them a chance because it doesn't reach that, you know,

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it doesn't take all that certain, you know, notch or. Whatever famous enough for them to go check it out. Yeah.

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Sometimes you don't need something that's famous,

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you know, to be a hell of a good show. You know, maybe it's like, because it's different, right?

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What else is out there that's kind of like this? I don't want.

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I don't want us to be, like, arrested, but, you know, like, there's

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really nothing out there, so that could be, like, normalizing on the genre.

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Yeah. On top of, I mean, how many cop shows are, you know, like, they're all.

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It's all. So tired. So. Yeah, I think it just maybe gave people something different watching

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it just took off from there. I know they got the Harrison Ford spinoff coming.

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Through that's coming out. Yeah. 1923, season two starting up pretty soon. Yeah.

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Speaking of cop shows, did you guys hear that the FBI franchise overrated as well?

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We just went to CBS. His best shows are highly highest rated.

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They have a new one coming out called FBI. CIA,

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two different things. Right. Well, they had totally different focuses.

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They don't make sense that you would make a CIA department.

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It's like, you know, NFL, the basketball division.

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Exactly. Yeah. It's like folding one Brandon or another.

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I had a double check. The article was in The Onion or something like that. Like a fake thing.

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But no, it's actually happening. One show I did start watching.

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This is corny, but really good so far is, high potential.

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It has. Oh, yeah. The girl that plays D from Always end in Philadelphia. Yeah.

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And she's like a Sherlock Holmes is honestly what it is.

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It's like she has this, you know, disorder or

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whatever where she hyper fixates on things and she sees a little details.

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So she walks in a room and she tells I'm like, oh, yeah, no, it wasn't the husband.

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It was the nanny that did it. And they're like, what are you talking about?

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You know, the bodies right here. And also, just like when she breaks down all the little things that she sees that

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they aren't picking up too as fun as like, man, that's pretty good, though.

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She does it in heels in a skirt all the time. So obviously, you know, full makeup and stuff.

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But yeah, she's supposed to be a mom of three. A lot of things don't add up, but.

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Whatever it is. You know. I have to check that out.

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It's hard because when you know a character so well for one role or ASD.

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I can't imagine, like, seeing them somebody else. Yeah, I would say this does a good job, of breaking her out of that character.

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And I like it to see how her career can progress after this now.

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Yeah. Did you watch the AP bio or AP bio?

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I'm sorry. The, Abbott Elementary crossover? No.

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Not yet. We have I have started watching that show again, though,

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because it's such a good show. It is. But in that one

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they're just different enough because of course, they can't, like,

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be as vulgar as they normally would be. Yeah, but the kids are just different enough

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where you're like, oh yeah, that's like softy. Yeah.

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You know. It's like them trying to behave themselves on the softy.

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You get that two hour day. Let's get it into the news. We're going off our website guys.

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Check out our website if you guys want all the information.

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Zach Krieger, he's a director.

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Going to be helming a reboot for the Resident Evil franchise.

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Now. Mom loves Resident evil. My mom was, Really? She likes horror movies in general.

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She does? Well, yeah. And I think that first one is fantastic.

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I even like the second one. But, boy, they fell off hard after that.

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And then they tried a reboot. And recently me and Daniel almost walked out of the audience.

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We didn't it because neither of us told the other one to walk out of that whole thing, like,

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come on, you know, say you're done watching this and you're hoping for the same thing.

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I mean, then we found out afterwards. Yeah. So I, I love the franchise.

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I hope it becomes better. Yeah, I yeah, the last one I saw was where she, like,

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lands a plane on top of her on a rooftop or something like that.

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Yeah, that was rough. Like I could barely watch that.

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But yeah, like you're saying, the first two are really good, right?

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So maybe it is time for a reboot and kind of start fresh.

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Yeah, I think they should probably, What do you think sticks strong with like,

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the what's already been created in the video game wise? Because I know one of the movies,

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they tried having these characters and like, nothing like it.

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Do you remember the billion that they put on screen? Yeah, they.

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Try to make like a more video game accurate version,

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but it just bombed the worst. It was, it was terrible. Yeah.

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Just none of the characters look like their video game. Like copy.

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Yeah. So maybe they stick with something like that, right?

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Maybe because it's like comic books.

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Like superhero movies. I just do that.

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But that didn't work. Well, they tried that.

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It didn't. Work out. But the thing was like, they had Leon black hair, like, nothing like him, like whatever.

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So I think if you're trying to make like, okay, if I see, you

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know, let's just say Iron Man movie the first came out, right? Yeah.

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Oh my God, that's Iron Man. I grew up with him loved. Maybe you pull some of those characters and have them look exactly

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the same, like Ada Wong and, Claire and Leon.

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Yeah. And, if you can mimic like, that opening scene on Resident Evil two,

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where they're in the car and the big semi-truck crashes

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and they split up, you're like, oh, yeah, you know. Yeah.

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Ready? You know? Oh, yeah. I don't know if that would be the answer to make the games

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or come up with a new script like they did before, but just better storytelling.

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I think what I like about the first two movies, too, is it didn't get too deep into the the fantasy

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that's in the games, like you got some more crazy characters that it ends up developing.

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Yeah, but it stayed in on the earlier end of it.

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That is very much more mainstream. You don't have to have that comic book sci fi, you know, perspective to like it.

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Yeah. So I'm wondering if the producers realized

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from the sales and, and, you know, in theaters and stuff like that,

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if fans were going to try to see a zombie movie and ended up finding it

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to be a comic book movie and didn't like the comic book element of it.

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Yeah, you definitely, I think, keep the horror element still a horror. Movie.

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That's what's nice about, Gregor Craig was right.

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The most recent thing he did is barbarian, which is a very big popular horror

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movie of last year. So I think they're going at it as a horror first.

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To me, I think less important than sticking to accurate characters is accurate feel.

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And whenever I think of Resident Evil, the feel that I remember is

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or from friends who played a lot is the lack of ammo.

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So the desperation of like, yeah, you know, even one zombie that might be slower than you in a room.

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Yeah. If it takes one bullet, that's one of those bullet you have

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when you absolutely need to defend yourself. Yeah, you're in a school and that happens to be just a little girl

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zombie in there somewhere. And you have to find a way to get out, or you have to find a way to guillotine

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her inside the school without any weapons. Exactly.

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Two Raptors at the end of drastic Park, or more dangerous

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than all of the rest of the world with everything falling apart.

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Yeah. You know. Like, what would you like to see?

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Would you like to see the Leone aspect where its more horror ish?

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Or maybe like the Chris Redfield where you're like the whole, I don't know by the smarter zombies do one.

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I kind of like the slow horror type. Ones or it was really.

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But we're also we're getting a new renaissance of zombies. It's, it's it's the ebb and flow of of zombies.

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But like, we have 28 years later coming out with the new trilogy,

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Walking Dead, coming out with 500 of the spin offs.

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So we're getting a lot more zombie stuff, so we'll have some the half hour,

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we'll have some that slow ones. Yeah. I'm just curious what would pull you in, though, for this Resident Evil?

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Well, I mean, what would you want to see? I don't want to.

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I want a dawn of the dead. I love Dawn of the dead.

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It's like, I think the best version. Zombies. But, like, make up tomorrow.

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Maybe they'll sprint every so often. But not the majority of them, you know? Yeah, yeah.

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No, I guess best, like, what do you call it? Like a left for debris.

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Run into the special zombies just like them. I just don't like them.

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And and that could be reflective of their physical abilities

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before they died. So you go by a, football field where there was a game going on

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and they all died. Oh, crap. Those ones can run because they conditioned their muscles bigger.

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Yeah. You know, but you go by, you know, senior home and yeah, there's armies,

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but they're really slow ones because they were already, you know, fatigued.

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By the cowboys. And it's like, yeah, they're fast, but I don't know where the fuck they're going.

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Right. And why can't catch nothing.

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That one just dropped the ball. I don't know if they're. Even holding the ball.

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Yeah actually football better now than they were when they were.

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Like oh we have a Cowboys fan. We just found out who our new coaches are.

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I'm a little upset today.

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Yeah, I think it's good to bring this back, though. It's name brand.

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Raccoon City's always cool umbrella.

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I mean, it's like, so iconic. Yeah. PlayStation is the one kind of investing behind this as well.

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And they, they're bringing back they're bringing in a lot of movies in their franchise.

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They're going to make it too heavy. I think what it is, is like

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they were like, okay, Sony just dropped the ball with all of their stuff.

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They're going to do the Spider-Man stuff. So there's like a lack of franchise makers outside of the MCU and DCU.

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Let's make a franchise out of the PlayStation stuff.

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What? I mean, it's such an iconic game. Let's go with this one.

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Yeah, yeah. Next in the news, we have our son Joe is gonna be played by Orrick.

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Thompson. He's been known for a lot of things.

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Is one of those guys like. Oh, yeah, I remember him. But it's going to be co-written this series being co-written

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by Chris Mundy, Damon Lindelof and Tom King.

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The legend Tom King is gonna be very comic book feeling.

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And, I'm wondering,

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how are you going to bring in Nashville into such a small story?

15:08

Because we know what it is is the two lanterns, John and how are investigating a murder in the middle America?

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When does sinister come into that? He's he's crazy.

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Didn't you explain to me. I don't remember that. Like after the whole battle with Sin Astro, he was imprisoned.

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And later on he was released to try to stop.

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Oh yeah. Never mind. That would still be way too climactic.

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He was released to try to stop. When? How? Jordan had Paradise.

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Yeah, I went renegade. Yeah. I didn't tell you about that.

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It's probably a TikTok video because I follow the same TikTok guys.

15:38

Yeah, they break those down. Thank God for those dudes.

15:40

Yeah. Yeah. It would be interesting to see if they start

15:43

introducing parallax way too early in the DCU.

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Yeah, well, because how do you introduce an Astro?

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I mean, I guess in the very, very beginning. He's a good guy, right? He's training.

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Very beginning. Yeah. But I think at this point he would already be like, yeah.

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Yeah, I would say like the corpses establish this natural corpse, corridor.

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And like, it'd be we'd

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be introduced to him by the investigations of the Green Lanterns.

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Right. So maybe questioning the corpse.

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So they he, like sinister, killed somebody in the middle of. America?

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I think they think, you know, I think that's.

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They're running of him, though. I know, but I think they're gonna like, oh, maybe find these clues

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that might not frame him in a way, but could lead to them.

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And then that's the introduction of the core. And play a role like that.

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I don't know if he might even be, like, the big villain,

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but he might be a character that's just, like, utilized for future projects.

16:31

Frankly, I don't want to be the big villain because he deserves so much more.

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He deserves a big yeah, the whole movie. Not just a one off, right? Yeah.

16:37

And kind of the Loki. I always use Loki's example, but the MCU nailed it with him

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where he's just this, like, constant bad guy. Sometimes he's helping you even, actually, that makes me.

16:45

Think he could be helping whatever did happen

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for like a greater purpose that leads into multiple movies or series.

16:51

Yeah. Maybe he's trying to corrupt from a distance, corrupt the the Green Lanterns.

16:56

So he would stay?

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Yeah, he would be sending people, to mess

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with these detectives that are, you know, working. So cause he, he isn't a very earthly, grounded character.

17:07

And so to throw him in the mix as if he's sneaking around a small town

17:10

trying to cause problems for these two just doesn't make a lot of sense.

17:14

Yeah. If he's sending people and he's kind of pulling the strings in the back

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like a puppet master or something like that. Yeah, maybe the key is.

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That he's obsessed with hell because that's his mentee. Yeah, yeah.

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And so if there's a way for him to be in the middle of all this

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just because he's trying to break how maybe he he learned that this is how,

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you know, whatever, mom or some stuff like that. Maybe I don't know. Something emotional.

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Something to break out, try to bring the fear out of hell.

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Yeah. And break his will be interesting.

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Yeah, I'm a little worried about the casting, but I'm glad to actually get some more a more news with eyeliner?

17:43

Yes. Use. Perfect. What do you. Know? I just don't know what, what the.

17:47

Hell this guy brings. Yeah. Him specifically. That's what I worry about.

17:50

Because, like, if you look back on his other movies and nothing about it is so memorable.

17:54

Yeah, I think no, one thing I remember is, like, the thing, but it's the remakes.

17:58

I'm like, yeah, whatever. You know? But his other roles are, it's nothing strong.

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But again, I mean, I'm a huge Green Lantern fan. I love that they're actually doing something with it.

18:07

Yeah. Boom. It's about time. Because the Ryan Reynolds thing's definitely not the legacy

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should be showing off you. You know, there's so much more to it.

18:14

Robert Eggers next story, Robert Eggers is going to be helming

18:17

a new labyrinth sequel.

18:19

So Robert Eggers just want to do Nosferatu.

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Oh, it's not a reboot. It's a. Sequel. It's a sequel.

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Well, that's a good point to bring up, John, because somebody's like, why don't you just do a reboot?

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He's like, we can't replace David Bowie. Yeah, so this has to be something that builds on David Bowie.

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It can't we can't mess up. A is like, oh yeah, we.

18:34

Got to rewatch that now. Oh it is, it's wild.

18:37

It is crazy. But it's a lot of fun. Yeah a couple more of these beers that we all have in front of us.

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And then you watch it nears that. What do we think about this?

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I think it's awesome. I mean, we've seen well, lots of like we've seen some success,

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not all success with these, you know, reboots, continuations of old movies

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and series that we like, movies that dark Crystal didn't seem to land.

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It was just going to bring that up. I hope this doesn't turn out to like.

18:59

Yeah, because it was just weird.

19:01

I've never felt in my life. Oh, except for maybe Team America, that is, with puppets.

19:05

It felt. It just felt awkward watching these. Yeah.

19:08

Puppets. Yeah. And it was a school production and.

19:10

Yeah, it it didn't sit right. So I honestly couldn't finish the first episode.

19:14

I didn't, but. It was weird to me. Yeah, a little into it, like Idris

19:17

Elba was with the voice actors in some way that like, they definitely put money behind it, but it just was hard to get.

19:21

Yeah, I would love to get into that kind of like LotR universe, but it's just

19:24

it was I'd rather just watch CGI or something.

19:26

Yeah, yeah. And presumably they're going to do the same thing with this.

19:30

It'll be all puppets again, right? Yeah, probably.

19:32

I think Jim Henson probably owns a part of this. Jim Henson's family only owns a part of its name.

19:37

Yeah. Without David Bowie, though, that's hard because he was such an icon

19:41

in that first movie and was kind of the reason I watched it.

19:43

Yeah, he was bad. There's somebody you think that could play his type of character?

19:47

I mean, with Robert Eggers. Yeah, I think it's going to be, It.

19:51

What's his name? Pennywise. Just the Nosferatu.

19:54

Oh my God, dude, what a fucking chameleon.

19:56

Yeah. Scars. Guard scars.

19:59

Yeah, I know, yeah. All the iPods. Yeah.

20:02

Yeah, yeah. He was weird though, because in Nosferatu, like, it's too much makeup and stuff,

20:07

you know? I never know of that. Yeah, it was him, right? It's not.

20:09

But, very good at, like, you would never know, you know?

20:12

So to everything else. Yeah. Yeah. And the way he plays Pennywise, like,

20:15

I never thought anybody replaced Tim Curry but. Oh he does great.

20:18

Yeah. Yeah. And he's going to be back for the Derry series too this coming up this year.

20:21

Oh yeah. Oh wait. And this year.

20:24

Yeah. So we have a new Larry's on the way.

20:26

As soon as we find something more about it we will make sure you all know.

20:30

All right. We, have also returning.

20:32

Captain planet is making a comeback in comic book form.

20:36

Finally. My God, was my tick tock on five people complaining and happy about it.

20:41

And we predicted it. Well, we talked before about Captain Planet

20:43

coming back and making a new live action oriented series, so that would be dope.

20:47

Why you why would people be upset about it?

20:50

I honestly have no opinion, you know, like yeah.

20:54

Oh, you see, that's what. People like to complain about, you know.

20:56

Because they're going to ruin what we like

20:58

or that global warming is fake and all this is hippie stuff.

21:01

Okay, I was thinking, yeah, people think too much sometimes.

21:04

It's like it's a cartoon series. Yeah. There's also the turtles coming out of the subway, but we still are the.

21:08

Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. Like, come on.

21:11

I didn't believe. In it or not. It's a fun story. Yeah.

21:13

Everything not I mean, things can be look at surface level guys like,

21:16

this is a whole cartoon that we kind of watch and grow, and it's.

21:18

Just going to be him. Fighting. I wanted this to be gory, though.

21:22

Fuck that. You litter some fucking trash on my lawn just for, like, head bashing.

21:26

Yeah, I will fertilize that fertile fertilize with your blood.

21:31

But then nothing if it's not like that. Nothing about this turns me on, so.

21:35

Well, I'm really liking how it's done by dynamite.

21:37

Which boy, that company is really thriving nowadays.

21:41

They've been taking a lot of that old millennial stuff

21:43

and making good comic books out of. I think they're doing like

21:45

like Funko Pops, where you buy up the licenses and then just throw money at it, make it happen

21:49

quick and cool, and people are buying up tons of it too, where they do Gargoyle Engine.

21:52

Frank Wiseman's writing those, and then they have Gargoyles Quest,

21:55

which is like the medieval version of gargoyles. It's fantastic.

21:57

Yeah. Really just thinking like, oh, you put non-recyclable in a recycle

22:01

and just fucking whack. Yeah.

22:05

15 dead the day.

22:08

Because. I could put it in the wrong bin. Geez.

22:11

But I don't think it was dynamite. I could be wrong. Correct me. The Power Rangers comic books.

22:16

No. There. I know, it's, Okay, I was going to say that's.

22:19

But that was it, I think very good storytelling of a remake

22:21

or something that we grew up with similar. To this, though. Yeah. You know, isn't it? Yeah.

22:25

That's good. Now we'll see. I don't like the beard and I hate the shoulders,

22:29

the shoulder pads that he has now. Yes. He's like rock shoulder pads that are.

22:33

Just like oh God, that looks stupid. Yeah.

22:36

Just give those. Shoulders a. Transformation.

22:39

Maybe that. Maybe has elements of Earth because he is Captain Planet.

22:43

Yeah, he has, like, elemental control. Sure, but I mean, that just to me bugs the hell out of me.

22:46

But, yeah, everything else is cool anyway. I can even get past the beard. People are asking about this.

22:51

It will tell you. I'm telling you my comments have been on fire.

22:54

Mostly people excited about it. There are some people that weren't, but most people are happy about it.

22:58

Yeah, I hope the comic does good in the make a live action series.

23:01

I don't know if I hope that happens.

23:03

I had this. Song in my head all week because I put the trailer in the video.

23:06

Yeah, I just had that damn song stuck in my head all week.

23:08

Noice. Next up we have Star Wars News Sean Live.

23:11

He's got a standalone movie coming up, so right away I'm out and onboard of that noise.

23:15

It is rumored that in talks is Ryan Gosling.

23:18

What could Ryan Gosling do in Star Wars?

23:21

Yeah, right away I was thinking, like, if he's in Star Wars,

23:23

I think it'd be better as like a pirate or.

23:26

Yeah, like assassin or something like that.

23:28

But I like the Han Solo way.

23:30

Yeah, I kind of. I guess he was really good, like gray. Man.

23:34

If you guys watch gray, man, it a Netflix movie.

23:36

It. Yeah. He was good. And that is kind of like that shady character. Yeah.

23:39

But I think in recent roles like Barbie and whatnot, he's

23:42

got a really good humorous side. Yeah.

23:45

And so I'd like to lean in on that one.

23:47

But what kind of Star Wars character would you play that's funny?

23:49

Like most of them are? It's a war. They're serious.

23:52

And there's the droids are usually comic relief.

23:55

Yeah, but they're not going to put him behind the droid stuff.

23:57

They're going to make sure to whatever he's going to do is going to be some sort of shirtless Jedi.

24:00

Yeah. I would like to finally see, Hondo.

24:02

Hondo. Hondo. Yeah, yeah. In a live action.

24:06

And maybe him and Ryan Gosling working really. Surprising in pop up in Skeleton Crew.

24:10

I think so. Oh yeah. Because of the pirate universe. So yeah, I thought for sure he was gonna pop up in that.

24:14

Yeah. Yeah yeah. And is a recognizable face.

24:17

They're definitely gonna not put him under too much makeup or prosthetic.

24:19

No, no I can't. Be serious enough to be a Jedi.

24:24

I think we have enough Jedi stuff. Yeah, like, not his acting, but his persona.

24:28

What he's recognized for, I think, would distract from most characters.

24:31

He could play. Well, whatever. Better, right?

24:33

Act like GI World or Skeleton Crew.

24:36

So maybe I think people just want to break of the force.

24:38

I mean, I think have a, have a double side.

24:41

We have Mandalorian that doesn't have much Jedi stuff,

24:44

but then we have Soko, who's a lot of it. So I think having both is fine.

24:46

Yeah, I just think like right now, what would you prefer? Yeah.

24:48

I mean, do you want to break or what? I don't know.

24:51

Not a lot of Jedi. I don't want acolyte or it's just all lightsabers and no giving a shit.

24:55

Yeah. But you know, some.

24:58

Yeah, some would be cool. Yeah.

25:00

If they were to do, like, do live action rebels, how cool would he be as a canon?

25:04

Keenan or whatever. His name is the guy that, like, was leading the got blind.

25:07

Remember? Rebels, when you go blind died.

25:09

His death was. Oh maybe cry. I wonder if

25:13

we actually have him, like, kind of on, like, work on both sides.

25:16

Nice to kind of see the more the dark side stuff. That's also because he's a. More dark side, you know. Mercenary.

25:20

Yeah. I can see where. We get it. That was a he was a slicer.

25:24

They called my slicer, which is basically like Star Wars for hacker.

25:26

Sometimes they just make it up. It's like so stupid.

25:28

They keep trying to push. Oh, that's so wizard.

25:30

And every time I hear him like, oh, guys, this is not gonna work, okay?

25:34

You can stop it. So fetch you.

25:37

I imagine they have, like, a ton of boxes of shirts in the warehouse, like, guys, we gotta sell the shirts.

25:42

Please. Nobody cares.

25:44

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Check that out. Let's get into Xbox.

27:02

So first off we'll talk about the Xbox Direct squeeze suggestions.

27:06

Lashes. No no. Okay.

27:09

What I'm gonna. Be good is one day my job was to watch. The.

27:13

Night. Okay, so let's go to the bigs. Announcement.

27:15

They're bringing back Ninja Gaiden guidance I did.

27:17

You guys did see that? Yeah. Ninja got a four. And then they just released the remake of Ninja Gaiden Black two.

27:23

I am not good enough for video games to be good at that game, are you?

27:26

Oh, man. Yeah, I am playing. I think it was number three.

27:29

Yeah. 3:00. Yeah, I think early. Great.

27:31

A fast pace finish games. Yeah. So I'm not good enough.

27:34

Do you think this could be their version of blood.

27:36

But like they need something from the FromSoftware. It's never it wasn't never like a from sort of style to me.

27:42

Yeah. You know but it was I mean it was tough at times.

27:44

Do you think, do you bring that up because you think that maybe

27:48

they'll go that route with this? Well, I'm sure there's a whole that Xbox doesn't have.

27:51

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Uber difficult. Game. Yeah. And PlayStation has a lot of them.

27:54

Yeah. No I think it'll be challenging like it used to be.

27:57

But, I don't think it'll be in the form of like form software from software stuff.

28:01

Yeah. But I think, I think it'd be, I don't know.

28:04

I think that's what we're going to get to next is a great addition for what we're about to talk about.

28:09

Yeah. Well, yeah, I but, Yeah, I'm just wondering, so,

28:14

the hellblade scenario, which I think was kind of trying to fill that,

28:18

you know, hack and slash dodge Perry stuff like that.

28:21

Fair enough. But it's clearly something that people hella want, people are clamoring for.

28:26

And so I think Ninja Gaiden would have been a good spot for them.

28:29

I don't know, I think the character was is missed a little bit.

28:32

We saw I think it was on a, fighting game not a long time ago.

28:36

So caliber, right. Was his okay, I think so.

28:38

It's been too long, but, like, the characters are just.

28:40

I feel like he's going to miss it and it's going to be, the hype is going to be seeing him again on TV.

28:45

That's fair. We got a new trailer for Doom The Dark Ages.

28:49

Now, I don't think you're going to buy that right? Oh, yeah.

28:53

Yeah. I thought you said that.

28:55

I was like, is there a the third, the third trailer just dropped for dude three or whatever.

29:00

Yeah. Yeah, most definitely preordered, $200 stationary son.

29:03

Jesus Christ, it was a statue that turned me on the phone.

29:07

Yeah, that brings up a good question.

29:09

GTA six, they're posing that or whatever, proposing that it might be $100 for the game.

29:14

Oh, yeah? What did you spend $100 for? Something like GTA six?

29:18

I'll clarify that. That is a killer game and we've seen massive inflation

29:21

since, you know, the last time game prices have gone up.

29:24

But I think that I mean, at what point is it taking advantage of the consumer.

29:28

Did it cost more to produce it. Yeah.

29:30

If it's fully complete and there's no DLC.

29:33

I'm so tired of buying DLC stuff.

29:35

Yeah. No DLCs and no bugs right out the gate. Yeah.

29:38

And if it's like there are so few games where I like,

29:41

even think like maybe and like that and a new Elder Scrolls

29:46

in a new Halo maybe. Yeah. Like there's only a couple, right?

29:49

Can we start to see like tiered pricing where.

29:52

We already see tier pricing that comes with extra stuff.

29:54

But are you saying tier pricing based of quality of game. Yeah, yeah. So like a game like this would be 100 bucks.

29:58

But you know another I don't know what.

30:01

That allows you for so many. Years. Yeah. It's something like an untested

30:04

franchise might not but because yeah this one lasted over ten years GTA five.

30:07

It's like if you got to play again today, it's such a game.

30:10

Yeah, a new read that would be $100 game, right?

30:13

Yeah. But and I could see myself like yeah I could see.

30:15

Like Resident Evil would be still 60 bucks or 70 bucks.

30:18

Right? Because it's untested. Yeah. I mean, it has the name, but it hasn't been successful.

30:21

No. Same way. I think I'm kind of a genre just taking advantage of the consumer.

30:25

We know everybody's been waiting for this game and there's been memes and, it's just.

30:28

Yeah, everywhere of, the release of this thing.

30:31

So I think a lot of it too, with the success with the fifth one, is

30:34

that's what they're doing is taking advantage a little bit. Yeah.

30:36

Would you guys prefer they follow like the Fortnite model or other ones where you pay?

30:41

Well, not for like when it was free, but yeah, other games where you pay like a monthly subscription versus the one time fee.

30:47

So if it's super paid. No monthly subscription.

30:50

I can see in-app purchases or in like multiplayer purchases,

30:53

but I only care about the single player game. And I know the multiplayer makes a lot of their money back. Yeah.

30:57

But the single player game, I think might alone be worth $100.

31:02

Yeah, but the GTA five, I've played that single player thing six times over. Wow.

31:06

Yeah, because he's different endings and stuff like that, and it's just such a fun world to play around with.

31:12

I could see that happening. Yeah, you think so?

31:14

I don't want this, this one to be successful. And then that's the new standard. Everything comes out a hundred bucks.

31:19

If if some other random game that doesn't have a big name behind or so like that

31:21

tries to charge $100, well, they can just walk away.

31:25

Yeah. The other game that's coming out next month, it's going to be pretty pricey that I'm already like,

31:29

Scott already spent like 160 bucks and I'm like, dude, I'm going to wait

31:32

for the cheaper version of it. But civilization seven?

31:35

Oh yeah. Because, like, I know that game is going to last ten years.

31:37

Yeah. So that's a little bit more viable.

31:41

Yeah. I guess I had to do.

31:43

I see myself playing like it's a

31:45

if it came with extra stuff, right, like story DLC and all that stuff already

31:49

do I see myself playing it and that would determine

31:51

if I would spend a hundred bucks for it or not. Because like, realistically, I'm kind of like on the campaign

31:55

and I don't visit a lot of DLCs in very rare,

31:59

but if I, if it is providing all that stuff

32:02

and I do see myself playing for that long over time,

32:05

like you're saying, like people still buy gta5, then I would

32:07

would have no problem spending $100 for it. Yeah.

32:10

What if they released multiple versions? I'm sure other games have done this. I just don't buy a lot of games anymore.

32:14

Where the super stock version, the just the game is 60 bucks.

32:18

But if you want to buy the kit that comes with the DLCs and maybe

32:22

like stickers or something like that, that's going to be a hundred bucks,

32:25

and then you want one that's got all that stuff

32:27

and it comes with like, a rare Funko Pop or Cup or something like that.

32:30

Another themed item, that one's going to be 120 bucks, and those are special edition.

32:34

Can't buy them on a store. They're just they're basically like season pass, right?

32:37

Like if you're to buy the season pass for the item as well.

32:39

Basically, that was a real big raise without gold.

32:42

Assassin's Creed and stuff like that came with those for a while. There was like a season pass. It basically came with the DLC.

32:47

I do think it'll hurt a little bit. At the same time, because I'm thinking of the normal consumer

32:50

that's like, hey, maybe they don't have like,

32:52

the, the earnings to buy multiple games.

32:56

So this is like I mean, I

32:58

don't know, I, you know, I don't know, I think it's a little bit just unfair.

33:01

Yeah. And even as for kids, like if you're buying it for your kid or whatever,

33:05

you know, your kid might not touch the DLC, but maybe they want because they see that it's cool or whatever.

33:09

It's like, well, I yeah, for as. Long as the DLCs don't affect

33:11

gameplay and is just, esthetics, then I don't care about having them.

33:15

I hate when other people can pay to win and get better weapons

33:19

and stuff like that just because they bought, you know, DLC.

33:22

But as long as they're just visual,

33:24

I get there's like a social aspect where you're not the cool kid

33:27

if you don't have the same skin as somebody else.

33:29

But you know, my age, that doesn't matter anymore.

33:32

In general, DLC like the ones I care about the most are like expansions.

33:36

Yeah. So when they actually going to add more story at the end? Yeah.

33:38

That's, definitely gonna fork over some more. That's true.

33:40

Yeah. They kind of made. Their money throughout all these years with online.

33:44

So what's the point of raising the price? Like what are you afraid of?

33:47

Yeah, I think it's because the development time behind this one is so massive

33:51

and it's like, why is it so massive is because you guys are adding basically,

33:54

you know, San Andreas and New York together, Liberty City together.

33:58

That would be awesome. So would you prefer they probably could have done this is is

34:02

keep it cheaper, 60 bucks or 70 bucks, but it comes out as a much smaller game.

34:06

And then one year from now they come out with the second game that is that expansion.

34:12

Or like you say, I guess it would. Be seven kind of doing something like that right now.

34:16

Oh, they. Can split it up into smaller.

34:18

Seven. No, it's a different story is I mean it's addition.

34:20

But you're saying like maybe attaching a map to like before starting to like map.

34:25

Two smaller games instead of one big game. But you pay 60 bucks each time.

34:28

So actually you're paying 120. But or you combine.

34:32

Yeah, it's all about to me. What it comes down to is hours per dollar spent.

34:36

Yeah. That's why I game that I, that I spend a lot of money on.

34:38

Maybe a little World of Warcraft over the last 20 years, but that's 20 years of video game plan.

34:42

Yeah, yeah. You know, stuff like that. So it's kind of

34:45

I mean, think about how much money, how valuable Minecraft has been for us.

34:49

Yeah, we come back to Minecraft all the damn time. Yeah.

34:53

Sure. Let's touch on the last things that Xbox announces or they have South of Midnight.

34:57

It's going to be coming out April 8th, which

34:59

I really like the animation of that one, so I might check that one out. And lastly, Claire, obscure expedition 33.

35:04

It's a new RPG coming out for the system, on April 24th.

35:07

Brand new. I haven't seen anything about this,

35:09

but what I like is it's a classic turn based RPG,

35:12

which is something that I think Xbox is also missing.

35:14

I think that they're trying to fill those gaps that maybe some of the fans that go to PlayStation are looking for.

35:20

But if you really want a PlayStation, you want to play Xbox games.

35:22

It's not out of the realm anymore because they're starting to go cross-platform.

35:25

And we got confirmation from Phil Spencer this week,

35:29

while he was on another podcast talking about how Xbox excited to be

35:32

bringing Xbox games to Nintendo Switch, to something

35:36

that's been kind of on the backburner with this, which is obviously the first, which is just too weak to handle anything.

35:40

With this one, we already have heard leaks of the Halo Master Chief collection,

35:45

and with Flight Simulator 24, both pretty heavy duty games.

35:49

Is there any particular game that you can see Xbox thriving on the switch with?

35:56

I mean, the big seller is Halo, right? Yeah.

35:59

I don't I don't know if I could get used like, yeah, even have a Steam Deck.

36:02

I don't use it very much. Yeah. I don't know if like you'd get used to playing like on a handheld system.

36:07

But I think this is a gateway to bridge the generations, honestly,

36:11

because our generation is used to playing either sit in front of your console

36:15

or you're sitting at your computer where kids these days are used to cell phones and apps.

36:18

So a lot of mobile, you know, a lot of young kids play mobile games.

36:22

And so to be able to bridge the two, a new device like this would be great at

36:26

bringing the younger generation the mobile gaming into console and PC gaming.

36:31

Yeah, but I don't think it's going to have the same effect the other way.

36:33

I doubt a lot of, console and PC gamers are going to go into using,

36:37

you know, the switch like a mobile, system.

36:41

Yeah, I don't know. So I'm going to think of something that's just not like,

36:46

the obvious, like Gears of War in Halo, right? But I'm thinking of like, Sea of Thieves, right?

36:49

To play that, like, handheld and and take it everywhere you go.

36:52

And now if you have those things linked, then I can maybe pull that person

36:56

into where, like, hey, I will switch to and I love see if he is played at home

36:59

all the time when I'm going on a trip or something like that, I'm gonna take my character with me, right? And continue to play.

37:04

I think that that'll be the huge thing, right? Yeah.

37:06

But then maybe do a Xbox or library like Nintendo has their classics.

37:10

So yeah. Like just thinking, yeah, I want original Xbox games.

37:13

Can we. See? Yeah, Banjo-Kazooie, stuff like that. Yeah, I think I always think of one,

37:17

which I don't know if anybody recall, is called brute force and

37:20

you know, lizard and and guys and girls, whatever.

37:23

But, you know, they just go around killing things, whatever.

37:25

Yeah. So many years ago, guys, but yeah, like really classic, classic catalog.

37:30

And I mean, maybe Nintendo charges a little bit more for it because they're doubling

37:34

the amount of games that you're able to play.

37:36

And Xbox is also, currently developing their own handheld system too,

37:40

which has been also talked about. That's very interesting. Yeah. Yeah.

37:43

So then why why make a big deal about coming back to the switch?

37:46

It just shows that Xboxes,

37:48

they say they're not ditching the Xbox brand, the consoles.

37:51

But man, you do not prove it in the pudding.

37:53

Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're making it. You're turning it into a, app service, essentially.

37:59

Yeah. I mean, the Game Pass, I think is kind of becoming

38:01

the biggest business model for them. And I don't think it's profitable yet.

38:04

Yeah. No thanks. So no, I mean every time ever, we always hear about it.

38:07

Every time that a new game comes out, a new call

38:10

comes out or something like that, and it's on the game. Pass it. Always.

38:12

Do you hear about like, oh, it's usually big for this or whatever,

38:15

but then it's like, okay, yeah, but next month everybody just spent $20

38:18

or less on a 67 year old game and are done playing it.

38:21

What happened? You know. Yeah. But the if they're continuously spending the $20 over time. True.

38:26

It is the gym membership care about what you're playing.

38:28

They just care as long as you have a membership. Yeah yeah. Yeah

38:31

I don't know. I wonder too like I was predicting for years now on the, on the podcast

38:36

especially that, Microsoft and Sony would be veering away from consoles

38:42

and start to develop, more or less, gaming PCs because that's kind of

38:46

what our consoles are now anyways. Right? But they would bridge that gap.

38:48

But now it doesn't really seem like they're trying to do that anymore.

38:51

I wonder if they're realizing that we don't need the computing power,

38:55

computing power of a gaming PC, but like, how, what was it?

39:00

How are gaming? Cloud gaming? Yeah, they're they're able to stream this stuff so effectively

39:04

that really you have to find a different way to, to make the money because the systems themselves aren't going to do it anymore.

39:09

Yeah. Yeah. That's true. Yeah.

39:12

Cloud gaming is kind of a whole the whole I mean, you're playing that the PlayStation was a call portal, right?

39:16

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. And that's right. I'm just fine. Right?

39:19

Yeah. Yeah, I think it's great. Yeah. And then. The Xbox, the Xbox on the headset behind you.

39:23

The VR headset does pretty good.

39:25

Yeah. Maybe there's, like effective internet.

39:29

High speed internet is now kind of all across the US in most places.

39:33

In most places. Yeah, yeah.

39:35

Yeah. It's just interesting to hear that this is becoming a focus of Phil Spencer

39:39

and that, I mean, it still just feels weird

39:41

as an old school gamer, an old school Xbox fanboy, to not have, like,

39:46

all right, leaning on the damn Xbox itself, make the Xbox itself

39:49

good because I honestly, the controller is better. In my opinion, the system's better, but it's not like PlayStation scanning.

39:54

You guys in the Spider-Man games or anything like that. No, if you guys were doing that, I'm like, okay, cool, console war's over.

39:59

I'll just get the Xbox as I prefer. Anyways, now have to worry about your guys's exclusives.

40:02

Yeah, and it could be ignorance, but there's not many exclusives that are

40:06

really current with the Xbox, right? I think of any of.

40:08

The stars that's coming out on PlayStation.

40:13

Starfield, Stan on Xbox already, you know.

40:15

I mean, it's on PC, so, so hard to say. It's but it's like, damn, what, what what happened?

40:20

You guys, you know. Like I know.

40:22

Do you think they're trying to partner with Nintendo

40:24

to kind of edge out Sony and together they'll be a bigger powerhouse?

40:28

I don't know, they just don't feel like they're being aggressive enough for that.

40:31

I haven't seen the actions out of them. They always seem to be.

40:33

Every time I hear about Phil Spencer or like this one or any other

40:35

anybody else with Xbox. So Kumbaya.

40:38

Yeah. And like, oh, the the next level of gaming is this.

40:40

And it's like, I don't know if it is. Yeah. The Sony is not playing by those rules. Yeah.

40:45

So that's crazy. Yeah.

40:47

People like to be a part of something to like to feel like they're a part of something.

40:49

So with the Xbox fanboys or PlayStation fanboys,

40:51

it feels like, oh, I'm on this team, right? Yeah. So even if it like

40:55

you say, a war, but at the same time it's still a hype behind it, right?

40:58

So like, as for you, a Xbox fan, like

41:01

why is it taking you so long to get the next years war game or something?

41:04

You know? Right? Right. Like it's kind of ridiculous. I got the PlayStation and I was playing all kinds of PlayStation

41:08

exclusives way before I was playing anything on the Xbox.

41:10

The new generation. Yeah. So it's interesting to see. We'll see where it goes.

41:14

I do look forward to having Xbox games on the switch, though.

41:17

That's not going to go away. Yeah. See this is a great example of that.

41:20

You know, we'll see how. Which is another one. We are going to get back to the other one.

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42:00

Let's wrap things up by, visiting Dynasty Warriors.

42:04

You're playing with dinosaurs over there. Oh, yeah. I wasn't expecting no, say it out there.

42:08

We're not sure what I'm implying on my profile.

42:10

We're shooting from the hip over here, guys. We're just out of decision.

42:13

How is that? Honestly, warriors going?

42:15

I think it's, I think I think it's great.

42:17

So far, there's been, Okay.

42:20

Okay, so let me try to think of other ones in comparing this one.

42:23

But one thing I like about this one is that it kind of feels

42:26

at times that you are in a war with, hundreds of,

42:29

I sort of know guys around you that feel like the old ones are that way.

42:32

Yeah. You were just amazing at this. Right. So there's been times in the game where you're like, okay, we're charging,

42:37

and then everyone's behind you, charging with you. And those moments feel really good.

42:40

I don't remember, too much of previous ones.

42:43

And, you know, obviously I could be wrong, but, like,

42:46

yeah, you got a horse or you're like, you're riding a horse too.

42:48

And then kind of like fast travel a little bit more and you get the destinations. I'm sure that's happened to other ones.

42:51

But again, I haven't played one in a long time.

42:54

But the story is really good. You're like this wanderer and you kind of, want change in peace.

43:00

So you like, I think you got to team up with this one army.

43:02

But they get so big that now they're kind of being the bad guys.

43:05

So now you join with us like we're in a grade, group to, like,

43:09

bring peace everywhere. Yeah, but there's also, like, this magical element, like,

43:12

you yourself, like, you know, like, since things or whatever.

43:15

So they're expanding a story of just, you know, normal, realistic war.

43:21

But I like it, like, Yeah, it's it's just been a blast.

43:25

Really? Yeah. What are the graphics look like?

43:27

Have they, have they kept up with the regulars? Because sometimes they feel like, some of the Japanese games.

43:32

I feel like just thrown it in some. No. Yeah.

43:35

They're, definitely, you know, enhance and better, but they're nothing.

43:39

Nothing like, I'm like, I'm looking.

43:43

I got a war or something. Yeah. No, they're still not there yet.

43:46

Yeah, yeah, but I don't know if that's what they focus on.

43:48

That's what I think it is. Yeah. I don't think that's the big deal for them. Oh, it's like an antenna right.

43:51

They're not too focused on the graphics but the game itself.

43:53

So but yeah, I mean, the one unfortunate thing is that,

43:59

the languages that they have, this is, this is obviously a story of China, but,

44:03

the languages are English and Japanese, so I kind of wish

44:07

there was a Chinese language there. They do have subtitles. Multiple other languages.

44:10

The Japanese one is great, but it's hard sometimes to kind of like, hear or read.

44:14

Actually read, when you're in the battlefield

44:16

and they're telling you to do stuff because then you're like reading off to the side, but I'm focused in front of me.

44:20

So but I also would

44:23

like to rather play that way because it just feels like immersive.

44:27

Yeah, it feels more immersive. And then like the, visuals on the mouth movements and stuff are better.

44:35

You know, that's true. So you're watching Shogun?

44:38

No, I haven't finished it. I need to the.

44:42

No, no, I just watched it on my own. Oh. Sorry.

44:45

With the wife, I was like, oh, no time for that. You know, it's hard to, like, get together to watch a show together.

44:49

Yeah. Yeah. So I, I, I tried a little bit of both.

44:52

And I think I do go back and forth is because sometimes on a show like that,

44:56

am I eating at the same time, then I'll look down and say, oh, that's a the one.

44:59

All right. So, but the English voice acting and that is the war is is not

45:03

I just don't like it. Oh. Do different isn't like again feel as immersive.

45:08

Yeah. So but I just wish they had differently put more languages in there that become,

45:11

you know, just a little. That's just a preference for me.

45:14

But but yeah, it's really it's really fun so far. Yeah.

45:17

And the combat is pretty fast paced. Yeah. So fast paced is still is like, hey, I want to focus on

45:21

just killing everything. But no, like, hey, there's stuff going on way

45:23

the side of the map, your teammates need you. And then you're like, oh, I lost this whole map that I spent lots of.

45:28

So I spent 30 minutes on with a thousand kills, you know?

45:31

Yeah. Because I didn't focus on one section of the.

45:33

I was like, dude, I'm having a blast just killing these little guys, though.

45:35

So, yeah, sometimes, that's effect focused heavy on so you don't get the,

45:40

excitement of just being overpowered sometimes because you're just.

45:44

But that is always a really big plus. Or is it just feeling like a god in the monks?

45:48

Yeah. Yeah. No, that is good stuff.

45:50

What would you give it out of a ten? I'm looking at.

45:57

Probably like, eight, eight.

46:00

Yeah. A week eight though, No, I think it's it's fine.

46:04

Okay. Standard eight. Standard eight as well, because a lot of the like,

46:06

the reviews are like nine, 9.5 out of ten, I think is what I'm saying.

46:09

Like, yeah, no, I could you could use a little bit more.

46:12

And I'm always like really big on, hey, if the gameplay is always the same, if you add one element

46:16

that like sometimes forces you to do something else, like, hey,

46:18

let me shoot out of a turn or something, you know, just whatever.

46:20

That's a plus to me for it's the loop. But it's not really breaking the loop, though.

46:24

Yeah. Yeah. All right guys, so there you go. Eight. That's not bad at all.

46:28

We're going to be wrapping up this episode with an interview with Alan Dunford

46:31

talking about horrors from hell. Let's go ahead and head to that.

46:38

Today I'm joined once again by Alan Dunford.

46:40

How are you doing, Alan? How many times I've been on here now.

46:44

I think this is six, maybe seven.

46:46

Damn, that's like way too many. Yes it is.

46:49

Yeah, but.

46:51

Hey, Frank, I'm so happy to be back here, man.

46:54

Yeah, I just absolutely love the gig.

46:57

Oh, my gosh. Excuse me. I yes, I got something.

47:00

I got something in my throat, I don't know, the door bugs. No.

47:05

Oh my goodness. This cup is just so like lightweight yet durable.

47:09

And the graphics, it's just crazy. Anyway,

47:12

Fun fact about that mug had Hawkman on there,

47:14

and they still haven't gotten me in trouble for it, so. Yay!

47:18

Fun fact about, the old bug.

47:22

I broke it, and I was really sad. I did. Yeah,

47:26

I was upset spaghetti after I broke it.

47:29

Oh, man. That's right. Means you gotta get another one now. Yeah.

47:32

No, no, no. Know,

47:34

today we're gonna be talking about your next installment of Horse and Hell.

47:37

You also have. Of course. You have. Okay.

47:41

You've got grandma chainsaw, grandma chainsaw.

47:43

I always. Grandma. Yes. Yeah, I guess just just think about it the way you think about pocus.

47:48

Hocus or hocus. Pocus, right?

47:50

Yeah. It's a chainsaw. Great. Now it's grandma change.

47:53

It's so many one shots of stuff like that. But this one here, it seems to be one of your more accessible comic books.

47:59

Can you kind of run down what Horse in hell is all about?

48:01

Yeah. So Horse in Hell is actually a spinoff series of Pocus.

48:05

Hocus. But the the key

48:08

difference here, I guess the the big thing about it is,

48:12

is, you don't have to read pocus

48:15

hocus understand what's going on in horse in hell. But but just for like a brief overview, Horse in Hell follows

48:21

the story of a demonic bunny from hell named horse.

48:26

Who? God, how do I word this?

48:30

He was plucked from hell during the middle of a battle,

48:33

and then he pledged his allegiance to Pocus because he didn't understand

48:37

what was actually happening. He thought it was his, his eternal dark reward, for for doing,

48:43

you know, his years of servitude for the dark Lord and all this stuff.

48:47

And then it turns to find out he just got plucked by a drunk,

48:49

drunk magician, dear, to to our world.

48:52

Right? Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, and again, it just follows this wacky story

48:58

about One Night Pocus tries to recreate

49:01

what he did to Horace to get him up here.

49:05

And it's Horace's journey now, getting back,

49:08

from hell, back to earth.

49:11

But yeah, when you're when you're

49:13

trying to do a third installment, how closely are you trying to tie it in with Pocus at this point?

49:17

Are you trying to just let them diverge as much as possible?

49:20

I think it's one of those, like, if you read Pocus, right, right.

49:25

Like, you know, that's that's awesome.

49:27

Enjoy it. Have fun with it. But it's not necessary.

49:30

So again, we we always wanted Horace to be its own standalone series.

49:35

Yeah. And then you talk about this being of course, like the Saturday morning cartoon.

49:39

What about that are you trying to implement into this book?

49:43

Obviously the art style itself, but I also try to bring in some of the wackier humor in this one.

49:46

Yeah. Well, like, we really try hard to be unhinged.

49:49

And and just like when you pick it up, you're like, I don't know what's

49:53

going to happen in this book. And I mean that.

49:56

All for the best, right? Like, I want you to pick this thing

49:59

up, read it, and be like, this was absolutely crazy.

50:03

I can't wait to read it again.

50:05

So it's just it's little stuff like that is really what we try to go for.

50:09

Now by certain numbers. This is your most popular book, but do you feel like it's your most,

50:14

popular book for the readers itself for like a long time fans?

50:19

It's a good question, Frank. That's right.

50:22

That is a very good question. I, I don't know, right.

50:26

Like like I want to say that this book is

50:32

very popular for the for the fans just because it's

50:36

it could potentially be, I guess, viewed as like the most accessible.

50:41

That's what I'm getting it, I think. I think that's what it is.

50:43

I think this is your best introduction to your world.

50:46

And then, you know, like this is The Hobbit.

50:48

And then we have Lord of the rings over here with focus, right?

50:51

Yeah. Because like, that's kind of how I've always viewed it. Right?

50:53

I've always thought that this book was, you know, I obviously I love the thing to death,

50:58

but it's it's the least amount of effort to get into it because the world itself

51:02

isn't as dense as some of the other stuff that we do.

51:06

And, you know, I, I don't know if I just need

51:10

to, like, take a chapter from it because I talked to you about this before.

51:13

It's just funny how things happen because, like, you know, pocus

51:16

hocus and grandma chainsaw even, like, you know.

51:19

Well, my co-writer and I, we sat down and we mapped out this whole world

51:24

for what we were going to do and where these characters were going

51:26

and what their motivations were, and blah, blah, blah.

51:28

And then we do Horus and Hell, and it's just, I guess it's fun, you know?

51:32

And then the book just, just does great.

51:36

Yeah. Well, what's working with Will all this time I even talked a little bit,

51:40

but with working with Willis all whole time, is it

51:43

is it rewarding to you guys to have a comic book

51:45

that's off to the side that you could just have fun with,

51:47

and does it kind of help you break the grind of working on something with it

51:51

a little bit more? Focus? Yeah, absolutely.

51:53

Because like I said, man, it's it's one of those things

51:56

where we actually get to spend time

51:59

and and just kind of like how crazy can we make this thing?

52:03

And like, yeah, of course we have a beginning, middle and end for where we're going with, with horse like that.

52:08

That's always been the that's always been the play. Right?

52:11

Because we never wanted to make a book that we had

52:15

zero idea where we were going, because originally

52:18

when we wrote horse, because people, our backers were asking for it.

52:22

But you know how that stuff goes sometimes, right?

52:25

Like, you know, like, hey, we'd love to see a horse spin off and it's like, oh, okay, cool.

52:30

Well, is anyone actually going to buy it? Right.

52:33

And then we, we had it set up to where if no one cared,

52:38

we could end horse at issue two.

52:41

Yeah. But then again, like, like, you know, it's shown it's, it's done so well for us.

52:48

And the fan response has been like, crazy dude.

52:52

So we we just love it and we're keeping going.

52:55

We're happy because we love being in this world. If I remember correctly.

52:59

Now of course, correct me. But horse was like, one of the tier rewards for a podcast campaign, correct?

53:05

Yes. It was years and years ago.

53:08

Would you would you consider doing the opposite way now to introduce

53:11

people who are coming in for horse on something like, you know, focus.

53:16

Yeah. I mean definitely. So we actually kind of ended up doing something like that anyway.

53:21

Right. With the, the new series that we have on there, mostly dead.

53:27

That's right, that's right. Yeah. Yeah.

53:29

So we're, you know, we're trying to do new stuff like that.

53:32

And really try to see

53:34

like what Ash Gans could do to try to bring hype around the series.

53:37

And plus if you already have completed pages, it's a good way for us to be able

53:41

to, kind of give like something a little bit exclusive

53:45

while also working that much harder to, I guess, raise funds and stuff.

53:49

Because as you know, this stuff ain't cheap.

53:52

No. Yeah. Well, the specifically the way you do it, you do it with higher quality,

53:56

with really great artists and, of course, with you and, well, working together

54:00

on the speaking of the artists we have returning for this cover,

54:02

what is it like working with an artist so long like this?

54:05

What kind of, benefits this long relationship are you seeing?

54:10

Dude, the the benefits are, like, absolutely enormous, right?

54:15

Because once you work with people for so long and in,

54:19

like, a capacity like this, it's just it's amazing, man,

54:24

because kid is such a professional in everything that he does

54:29

that like it's it especially is it's like working with Brian.

54:33

I think I've talked about this before. It just it legitimately, man.

54:36

It just becomes second nature.

54:39

Like we we all are on the same page.

54:42

We can be we give everyone freedom to do stuff like even with Brian

54:46

and you kind of like, know what everyone's expecting and they try to deliver the best product, not because you know their names on it,

54:52

but they try to deliver the best product just because they genuinely want to.

54:57

Yeah, yeah, yeah. With this one,

54:59

do you have any other artists working on different covers usually?

55:02

Like I think you have Brian working on one of the covers. Right.

55:05

Yeah. Like so I always like to try to keep like the same wheelhouse of people.

55:08

I know that may sound boring or whatever to, to some people, but I just love working with these guys.

55:14

But yeah. Like we got a Ruben Moss show cover, which I've worked with Ruben before on the Herald.

55:18

And yeah, it's just, I don't know, like, I try to, like,

55:24

reach out to get, like, new, like, featured artists and stuff like that.

55:28

But I also just like working with a lot of the same people, too,

55:32

just because a lot of these people that I've worked with,

55:35

they've been with me since the beginning. Right.

55:38

And it's just one of my ways to like, just kind of say thank you

55:41

for for sticking with me through this stuff for so long.

55:44

The Herald is so good, I forgot. Oh, I did, I forget that

55:48

we it's been it's we've gotten any updates on the Herald right now.

55:51

Yeah. So. Well no you're good.

55:53

Herald two has been completed for a while. Okay.

55:56

I'll actually I'll send you a copy of it. But yeah, you're on.

55:59

Well, yeah. Herald two has been done for for a minute now.

56:02

What we decided to do is, actually,

56:09

try to do it to where we're actually going

56:11

to release all the chapters of the Herald at once.

56:14

Oh, my God. It's just because, we think that

56:19

that story is going to be better told that way.

56:23

Okay. Yeah. We think having it in a long form way

56:28

is going to be way better for us.

56:32

And it's just going to be able to deliver the story

56:34

the way that we want to because, I don't want to say get slow,

56:39

but we really wanted to set it up like a, like a good solid Western

56:44

where you have that time to breathe and we don't want to go balls to the wall

56:48

the whole time with it. Right? So I mean, it's definitely balls to the. Wall the whole time. Yes.

56:52

Yeah. Yeah. So it's it could be exhausting because it just doesn't fit with.

56:57

Right. Yeah. So like, you know, we finished chapter

56:59

two of the Herald and we're like, man, this is really good. But like, chapter two is literally just a whole fight scene,

57:05

like the whole chapter. And it's it's cool how we did it.

57:08

And it's a lot of fun, but it's like, will the backer

57:12

be entertained without immediately having something to follow it, right.

57:15

Yeah. Yeah. So you know, and like I said, we we really set down to try to make that decision early

57:20

on what we were going to do. But yeah, I'll, I'll definitely send you chapter two.

57:23

So you going to have that check it out.

57:25

Very much looking forward to that. And it does kind of bring up

57:28

like something like Pocus for example, that kind of every, every issue.

57:31

Set something up, knock something down. Where. Yeah.

57:34

So are you thinking with something like Horus? I'm sorry, with, Harold doing more of a graphic novel aspect of it where

57:40

because I'm starting to see the rise of graphic novels more and more nowadays.

57:43

Oh, yeah. That's, So the next campaign we do for the Herald will be the complete work.

57:48

Complete like it will. Yeah, it'll be all five chapters together.

57:51

Wonderful. Okay. Yeah. And our plan is to have it like we did last time.

57:55

Issue one was already completed before we even started, the campaign.

58:00

And that's our plan again. This time,

58:02

so we want to have the graphic novel completely finished before,

58:06

just because I still everyone likes to work, and I'm cool with that

58:09

because, you know, like I told you, he draws at first and we write it.

58:13

That's. I was going to bring that up. That's so unique. But it really pays off when you see it on page.

58:17

Amazing. Yeah. With Horus again.

58:21

This one you don't want to actually have. I wouldn't want it to be a full book, because you do need to be kind of like

58:25

punch. It's a Saturday morning cartoon. You you're almost wanting to read it with a bowl of, cereal.

58:29

It's really fun that.

58:32

How much longer are you going to be putting out these Horus comics?

58:35

Is we have to be like with Grandma Chainsaw. We didn't go as long as we did with the others.

58:39

Is that we're going to do it. This one? No. So, Horus, obviously it's it's the same breath with Pocus.

58:46

We're going to go until people stop reading.

58:49

Right? Okay.

58:51

But the so the big thing is and I guess I'm going to preface it like,

58:55

and I'm sure we'll get into the some of the stuff that's on the campaign

58:58

here in a second. But with, with Horus,

59:02

we're, we're going for the Horse and Hell series for four issues.

59:06

So at the end of the fourth issue,

59:09

we're going to get our trade.

59:12

And we're, we're talking about doing a hardback for it and a good volume one.

59:16

So then the next series after this, though, is going to be Horus in Heaven.

59:21

So how we have. The series in.

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So yeah, man, the how this series ends

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or how how this chapter ends sets up, some events

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that, heaven is going to need

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some help. And the and the depiction of angels, if I remember

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in the first, horse, it's, it's like a different version of slapstick.

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They're almost like Ren and Stimpy wild.

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It's it's a lot of fun. It's own way. Yeah.

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So and again, we're, we're, we're always trying to turn it on its head.

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Right. So yeah Horus in heaven is going to be,

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it's going to be weird. And I think people are really going to like it.

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And I'm so excited.

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But, that's going to be a blast. Let's talk about this campaign for a bit.

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You've been doing campaigns for a long time now.

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This is one of the. Sure. It's been 84 years.

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Yeah. It's just like.

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But this is one of your 21 day campaign. So if you guys are interested in this, it's

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not something you can really wait around on. You need to punch it.

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Now get into the description, start clicking around in the links.

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Can you talk about some of the rewards you added this time that are new for your,

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campaign career? Okay, so, we did this on Horus one, and it was such a huge reception.

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We brought it back. We had a collector's box for Horus one.

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And then we went ahead and brought it back for a for Horus two.

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But it's a different box this time.

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But the biggest thing that we took a huge, I mean, a huge risk on

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and it paid off just perfectly.

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Frank, I mean, you saw it, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

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We we have toys on this one.

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Yeah. And a cute little toys that would look really great.

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Extra guys, monitors and stuff like that. Yeah.

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Are they interchangeable or are you tuned weapons on?

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I was watching a little video on it. Yeah.

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Everything's interchangeable because of how they're built.

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So, the heads are. And we did that for shipping reasons.

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We took a page from, I don't know if you guys have ever seen,

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Sideshow Collectibles or or messed with any of their statues or anything.

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When you actually get their statues, all the statues are separated in pieces.

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And the the limbs are magnetic.

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So we did that with the heads for horse.

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So the heads are magnetic, so you can take them off

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to different horse figures. And this is also kind of us hitting at we're going to be

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doing another run of horse figures.

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Yeah. That'll have more connectivity with the ones you guys already get here.

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Yes. Perfect. When you're when you're branching out into a new medium like action figures,

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how do you go about that? Do you, look at people who make action figures for hand?

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Are you start to learn how to do it yourself because you seem like the guy.

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Let's just say it. You seem like a guy who's gonna start looking at YouTube videos

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and how to make your own action figures. Come on. Yeah I wish man.

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So okay, so that was the big thing, right?

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It's like, how do we do this? And is this a good idea or is this just a stupid idea?

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Right. And, you know, are we biting off more than what we can chew with this?

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So I brought the idea up for the

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for the figures where I actually got the idea, was the.

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Have you seen the Disney durables?

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Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's where I saw it.

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And, it was one of those I got, you know, we talked about it and I was like,

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man, like, I think a horse would look really cool like this, but then it's like

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you look into it, and it's one of the reasons

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why people have asked us for plushies for a long time now.

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Yeah, we haven't done plushies because plushies are so expensive.

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Like, I would love to do a horse plushie, but it's like minimum like 500

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is what you have to order and it's like, I mean, if I could, you know,

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if I could get everyone's commitment and do you know what I mean?

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Do a 500 backer campaign.

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It's like, okay, cool, we'll definitely do plushies now, right?

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But because we don't have that, of course we we can't exactly do that.

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So yeah, that was the you know, again, like I said, it was a risk.

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So what we went ahead and just did we just said, screw it, let's try it.

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And we we did it. We found some people that were is just as passionate as we were.

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And, yeah, we we got it going.

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And that has been such a, like an explosion

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of people back in this thing and adding the stuff on.

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Yeah. Didn't show that too many. Yeah.

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And with it too, you get all the covers, if I'm not mistaken with that,

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that version of that tier. Right. Yeah.

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So we also did the the horse figures as an add on.

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Just because you know, we, we never want to,

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I never want to try to strongarm anybody into like

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you have to buy the $200 tier if you want to if you want this.

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But no like like I said, man, it was one of those we,

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we we have them as a bundle on some of the bigger tiers.

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But if you just want like if you just want to get cover A

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and you just only want, like, a horse, holding a carrot.

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Boom. There you go. You're good. Yeah. Okay. That's perfect.

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And then let's talk about you're going to be throwing in, eight

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pages of Mostly Dead. This is a brand new, book of yours.

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Can you tell us a little bit about this? I'll say artstyle for those, listening right now.

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Very Invader Zim, it feels like to me. Yeah.

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So mostly D&D is actually a book that Kit Wallace and I, the guy that draws Horus.

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It's a book that he and I created together.

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And we've actually been sitting on mostly dead for probably about a year now.

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You know, we have the first eight pages done when we were just kind of

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trying to figure out when the right time was to, you know, show the world and stuff.

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And, I encourage you to go to the campaign

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and check it out because we have a very cool trailer

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for mostly D&D that's on there. It actually, I think the trailer might be better than the stupid book.

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Like. Yeah, like I look at the trailer and I'm like, oh my God, this is great.

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Did I write something like this? You don't like it? Yeah.

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The trailer sick man. Oh, it turned out so good.

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I can't wait for you guys to check this out. Obviously, we're a big fan of everything you guys do over there.

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It was our pet studios. Horus is amazing.

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All the other books are amazing. What can we start to expect now?

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I mean, assuming everybody right now by this point is already clicking around in the list to get their copy of this?

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What can we expect of next out of top, top studio?

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Okay. So, you know, obviously we're will be working on poker seven.

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And then horse four then obviously getting everything ready

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for, for horse in hell or horse in heaven.

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And we've actually already started on,

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a horror novel called Beneath the Lighthouse.

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So that one is going to.

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Yeah. So that. What a graphic novel. I'm so. Okay. Okay, okay.

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I'm like, you don't have time for me to tell you right now.

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You don't have to know. Yeah. No. God, no, I wouldn't do that to my worst enemy. No.

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So, yeah, we started on a, graphic novel

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for, for us, it's called Beneath the White House.

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It's going to be a one shot. And. Yeah, I'm just.

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I'm super stoked for that, man. It's, we got a lot of really cool stuff coming with that.

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Yeah, I just, I mean, there's just so much like,

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you know, we're still obviously working on Deacon Dan's famous chili.

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We're going to do that after, after we finish Pocus.

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So. And then, as for publishers, who are you publishing?

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This book with, horses now. Okay. Yeah, we're actually with Bad Bug Media.

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That is where, Pocus Hocus originally started.

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So, yeah, we deviated a little bit, and then we, you know, we came back into.

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Yeah. And then. Yeah, it's been absolutely blissful ever since.

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We're. On. I am such a fan of bad guys.

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Make sure you guys follow them, on social media as well.

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I mean, banger after banger out of that, publisher.

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So, we. They do, they like

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not because I'm there, but yeah, they genuinely do fantastic work.

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They really do. They really do. Good people.

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Okay, guys, again, everything's in the description.

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Make sure you guys follow up on this again. It's one of the shorter campaigns.

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And I don't mean like it's crazy short, but it's doing 15 days left as we're recording.

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So make sure you get in on that. And we'll be sharing

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clips and stuff like that all throughout the next couple weeks so you guys can experience horrors for yourself.

1:07:29

Alan, once again, thank you very much for being on the show.

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I appreciate it. I love to be here and I can't wait to come back on.

1:07:35

Oh, you definitely will be. No. All right.

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Guys, we'll see you next week. Might see you.

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All right. That was Alan. Make sure you guys head to the link in the description and follow up on that.

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Also, check out our sponsors for this episode. Both Magic Mine and Sonic three from Paramount.

1:07:58

Before we head out, guys, what are your recommendations for the week?

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Yeah, done. I've actually, based on your guys's recommendation.

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Last week I've been rewatching Daredevil. There we go.

1:08:08

I burned through season one. It is really good.

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I don't know why I did. I think I must have seen all the season one originally back in 2015.

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Can you believe it's ten years old now? Yeah.

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But yeah. So I'm like, yeah, a few episodes in a season to really get you.

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I'm also watching silo, For All Mankind and severance, San Francisco, San Francisco.

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I finally back, I think. God, I saw it when I watched it.

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I binge it all like a month before the new season.

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But as so many people were waiting three years. So I see a lot of like TikToks and social media

1:08:38

about people waiting for it to come back. But, such a good show.

1:08:41

So yeah, that's incredible.

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What about mine is, we talked about a little bit of nozpheratu.

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Yeah. Right now you can buy,

1:08:52

through any whatever streaming service that is,

1:08:54

but there's a lot of imagery that I really like that

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I don't, recall seeing anywhere else before and what it,

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what I really like about it is they give you short snippets, scenes.

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Yeah. That are very quick, but they progress the story

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so they don't dwell on something that interesting.

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One, for example, is how like,

1:09:12

I can't think of the character's name, but he escaped Dracula's castle, essentially. Okay.

1:09:16

And how that happened, they're going back and forth with,

1:09:18

you know, him being stuck there or whatever. But once he, a panders back to him, like waking up,

1:09:24

and he was basically left for the walls, and he jumped out of water and cut.

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And then, I'm sorry, out of the castle into a river and cut.

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Next thing. But it's like it does a lot of that was like, man,

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you're really progressing in the story without wasting my time.

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Like I it's not dwelled on a lot.

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So yeah, I think it's I think it's awesome.

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Yeah, yeah. My recommendation for the week is bilateral.

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It is now on mobile. And when I got I might have recommended this for us

1:09:48

and it was, when it was announced as, like one of the game of the year

1:09:51

nominees, everyone was like, what the hell? Who is this? What is this game, guys?

1:09:54

It is incredibly good. And, you would think it's just a poker game.

1:09:57

It's not roguelike. It changes every every time you play it.

1:10:02

I'm a I'm a fan of trying to get straights,

1:10:05

like, making my straights stronger and stronger. Stronger and making it like you can keep changing however you want.

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And it's really fun. It's easy game to kind of jump into when you're like in between tasks

1:10:15

like, oh, you know, or like, oh, sometimes I'll do it, I'll watch it deviates, I'll show it, whatever.

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I'll play a quick thing on my phone because I have it on my phone and on the PC.

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But guys, it's a blast. It looks so simple.

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And it gets more complicated.

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Every time you play it, it's a lot easier level.

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All right, guys, that is it for this week.