0:01

I

0:03

agree.

0:06

I

0:08

want

0:11

to

0:13

start

0:16

a

0:19

chair.

0:21

I agree. I want

0:24

to start a

0:26

chair. yes. Poor Star Wars

0:28

fans that can't afford afford Sorry,

0:31

can't afford enough

0:34

lightsabers. enough lightsavers. Yeah, the

0:36

bric-a-brac. No? No, no,

0:38

no. mean, the No, no, called

0:40

The it the charities like that

0:42

at all. the Is that an acronym? I don't

0:44

like that at all. Yeah. could make

0:46

it. Self an acronym? Yes, we could make

0:48

Yes, that's a perfect name

0:50

for a charity. a charity you.

0:52

thing. No, no, that's for. Oh, oh

0:55

it? said, I because that

0:57

makes sense. Oh, is it? Because that

0:59

makes sense. Ah, Andy's bringing the funny early. Yeah.

1:01

And that was it, that

1:03

was it. the show. the show.

1:05

of which, to which. Welcome to Geek,

1:07

number I am six, nine. I am

1:09

Vlog. Commander Kay. Back checked Andy with Professor

1:11

Bigg and here to talk to Geek. Deb

1:13

is busy human trafficking, which is

1:15

like a 60, 70 hour job a

1:17

week. know, a big deal. 60-70 And

1:19

Tor goes at home you ways to

1:21

be more awful. and Torgo is

1:23

so you got us. up ways to

1:25

be more awful Yep, so you got us.

1:27

Yeah, ha ha ha Hey! Ah guys I I

1:29

gotta tell you I I haven't done

1:32

a whole this geek week last week,

1:34

other than hang out with your

1:36

people. Well that's shit. I know I

1:38

know. this I got this where

1:40

I look at all this geeky stuff look

1:42

at all this

1:44

geeky stuff that

1:46

I want to

1:48

do and it's

1:51

like too it's

1:53

too cold out

1:55

I don't want

1:57

to go outside

1:59

It's cold. Yeah it's a

2:01

it's a little

2:03

chilly, it's toasty

2:05

out there Oh you pose

2:07

her going back in the god

2:09

damn snow dry. You fucking pose

2:11

her you get you we go

2:13

someplace you bring a you

2:15

bring a leather

2:17

jacket it throw

2:19

it in the seat.

2:21

of the car and everything. Just

2:23

in case, yeah. Well, you, I

2:25

don't, I don't envy you. You

2:27

got to go in shovel snow.

2:29

Yeah, I do. It's pretty to

2:31

look at. So you got to

2:34

mess with, you know, 100 pounds

2:36

of white bullshit. Terrible guy who

2:38

first day. gloats about going around

2:40

hiking and everything. Oh, no, I

2:42

got a shovel snow. Yeah, hiking

2:44

the snow. There you go. You

2:46

have like forests to hike you.

2:48

We do have forests. Oh, you

2:50

don't have forests. Forest in the

2:52

backyard. Your dad's yard was really

2:54

awesome looking. It was that that

2:56

forest in the pictures was one

2:58

row of trees wide. Uh, dude.

3:00

After Vegas, that's great. Yeah. What

3:02

do we have? Rocks. Oh, look

3:04

over there. Dirt. And a cactus.

3:06

A cactus. But you got to

3:08

go out far for that. Yeah.

3:10

You get around, the wetlands park

3:12

is pretty lush really. Yeah, he's

3:14

right, it is, but it's not

3:16

pretty. Oh, I disagree there. I've

3:19

got lots of, I won awards

3:21

for getting pictures of that stuff.

3:23

It's pretty out there. Just gotta

3:25

get out there. Yeah, actually, the

3:27

coveted lipstick on a pig award.

3:29

Mmm. Yeah. No, I've never been

3:31

too enamored with the Nevada. Desert.

3:33

Desert. Yeah. No. Joshua Tree National

3:35

Forest is amazing. Yeah. When I

3:37

saw that I was like, oh

3:39

wow, there is beautiful desert in

3:41

the world. There is a Joshua

3:43

tree forest west of Good Springs

3:45

on a dirt road that's as

3:47

thick with Joshua trees as Joshua

3:49

Tree Forest. That and the mountains.

3:51

Yeah, there's some nice hiking. up

3:53

in Mount Charleston, but then there's

3:55

some of it where it's just

3:57

brush and dirt. Well, true, I

3:59

just came back from the most

4:02

beautiful place in the world in

4:04

my opinion with the Zion National

4:06

Park. Oh, yeah, that is one

4:08

of the most beautiful places. I've

4:10

hiked up that. It's gorgeous. Yeah,

4:12

I've, I, I, the North, uh,

4:14

Arizona and New Mexico Desert off

4:16

the I-40 is gorgeous, especially when

4:18

you get into New Mexico because

4:20

it's because New Mexico gets slightly

4:22

more rain than Arizona so the

4:24

so the brush is more plentiful

4:26

against that red dirt and it's

4:28

just like the green against the

4:30

red is fantastic. Chris busy. Yeah.

4:32

Whereas here we have rocks and

4:34

dead bodies. Yeah, yeah, an old

4:36

shot up car It's a lot

4:38

like fallout New Vegas. I got

4:40

to take you out and so

4:42

I try the beauty of the

4:44

area because I love this area

4:47

Okay, yeah, okay. Maybe not when

4:49

it's fucking January, but yeah, let's

4:51

do that one is August either

4:53

well, no, no, yeah March and

4:55

October's that those are the line

4:57

and let's let's just uh... be

4:59

happy for a moment that we're

5:01

not on fire yeah that's true

5:03

oh my god hey yeah all

5:05

my friends in california and and

5:07

any listeners that are in california

5:09

good god as dumb as it

5:11

sounds man thoughts and prayers jesus

5:13

christ i'd i'd a friend post

5:15

uh... they're they're evacuating us and

5:17

then like a couple hours on

5:19

the next post was our neighborhood

5:21

is on fire yeah Of all

5:23

people I saw Steve Gutenberg on

5:25

the news like a bunch of

5:27

times today like because he lives

5:30

up in palisades and he's trying

5:32

to get his house God that

5:34

fucking neighborhood if they're not on

5:36

fire they're sliding into the ocean

5:38

Jesus why I can see why

5:40

people want to live there because

5:42

it's no near LA and it's

5:44

pretty but man well and nobody

5:46

I mean you know decades back

5:48

I mean, I... No one knew

5:50

it was going to catch on

5:52

fire. Well, nobody knew it was

5:54

going to slide into the ocean

5:56

either. Yeah. It's just... Then explain

5:58

Florida. Yeah, I know. Everyone knows

6:00

it's going to get... hit with

6:02

your hurricanes why do people build

6:04

another water I don't get it

6:06

yeah well because for a while

6:08

yeah and for a while their

6:10

insurance disaster insurance was in stuff

6:12

would cover it but it's getting

6:15

it's getting priced out yeah it's

6:17

getting crazy big question for it

6:19

is why they don't leave when

6:21

there's a warning yeah well actually

6:23

my I talked to my brother

6:25

about that he lives in central

6:27

Florida and one of the things

6:29

he said was that Once they

6:31

give the warning, the highways will

6:33

turn into parking lots. And actually,

6:35

he and my sister-in-law one time

6:37

got stuck on the highway during

6:39

a hurricane. Because they got jammed

6:41

up and it was just like,

6:43

you know, the stories of the

6:45

Chinese traffic jams where people are

6:47

there for days. It was just

6:49

like that. They were there, they

6:51

couldn't do jack shit. Nobody could

6:53

move, nothing could happen and the

6:55

storm just came right over. We

6:57

need dirt bikes. That's why you

7:00

need to keep a fanboat in

7:02

your backyard swamp. There were neighborhoods

7:04

in California where they were trying

7:06

to evacuate and it's just not

7:08

made for a mass evacuation. Yeah,

7:10

yeah. And so people were abandoning

7:12

their cars. And that's what Steve

7:14

was saying. Don't abandon your cars.

7:16

Leave the keys in them so

7:18

they can move them. Yeah, because

7:20

otherwise what happened was the firefighters

7:22

had to come in bulldozers and

7:24

just... Yep. I'd rather someone stole

7:26

the car, I find it later

7:28

than that the firefighters bulldozed it.

7:30

Yeah. Yeah, really. Thankfully, we're geeks.

7:32

Right. And during the big freeze

7:34

in Texas and during the hurricane,

7:36

was it Harvey or whatever, the

7:38

one where we got the floods.

7:40

that I was there for in

7:43

the last like 10 years. The

7:45

one we were so in convenience

7:47

you couldn't eat your Chinese food

7:49

for an hour. That one. It

7:51

was so bad. Power had gone

7:53

out, we're freezing, what do we

7:55

do? Well luckily we have physical

7:57

media to keep us entertained. We're

7:59

not forced. to like try and

8:01

try and relive sports moments in our

8:03

heads or whatever. No, we have or pursuits,

8:05

have board games, we have books, and

8:07

we have you know, we did play a

8:09

bit on our phones, but and because

8:11

we were smart and had generators. did play

8:13

a bit on our phones, but

8:16

it's have a better time, right?

8:18

smart in apocalyptic situations. Hang in

8:20

there, California. have a

8:22

better time in apocalyptic so the

8:24

people under the snow Hang in

8:26

they need to do is

8:28

Yeah. Good God. and -playing supplements. you

8:30

go, you go. There you go,

8:32

yeah. Let's drop paper drop paper

8:35

products zone. a fire zone.

8:37

Okay. think that the didn't think way

8:39

entire way through. drop But

8:41

you can drop them people

8:43

snowed in in the

8:45

middle of the country. the

8:47

yeah, yeah. Ford on that.

8:49

Yeah. Yeah, Harrison Ford on that. Yeah.

8:51

Oh man, was was, back another

8:53

time when another time when

8:56

California was burning to the ground.

8:58

the ground. And And it's a story

9:00

I often use use, I when I

9:02

about, you know, happens. life I had a

9:04

student who literally could not get

9:06

to class to for two weeks

9:08

weeks freeways were on fire. were on

9:10

fire. Wow. And, know, yeah. but the, you know, she

9:12

was smart. She was smart. She kept know,

9:14

what saying, I what did I

9:16

miss? And I said, just keep

9:18

up with the reading. reading. Let

9:20

me, let me, the, you know, I'll

9:22

attach the, you know, whatever the

9:24

current assignment was to this

9:26

email. So yeah, and I, and so yeah,

9:28

and, and I would use And that's the

9:31

story I would use when first day you

9:33

know, a first day of class to other

9:35

students, go, communication is key. is

9:37

key. Yeah, if you're stuck, if if

9:39

stuck, if you get snowed in, you

9:41

live in Wrightwood and you're trying

9:43

to get to and you're and you can't,

9:45

the chafie, try to figure something out.

9:47

the way to try to one year. I

9:50

I drove through the Cajoon

9:52

Pass on fire twice. Yeah. Yeah.

9:54

Those videos of some Those videos bad

9:56

of the really bad ones where you

9:58

just see the line. of cars driving

10:01

and there's fire on both sides.

10:03

Yeah, apocalyptic shit on both. It's

10:05

just absolutely fucking bananas. Yeah. So,

10:07

well, we're thinking, yeah. Yeah, it's,

10:09

boy, it's not fun. It is

10:12

not fun at all. On the

10:14

plus side, we have a great

10:16

sunset tomorrow night. Oh, yeah, I'm

10:18

sure. Oh, oh, Jesus. Hey, how

10:20

close is it to Hollywood? Because

10:23

it's not there. No, there's like

10:25

a hundred different brush fires. Oh,

10:27

okay. All right, I was looking

10:29

at different fire, I guess. Yeah,

10:31

there's a hundred different brush fires

10:34

going on. I'm just worried about

10:36

movie production. Yeah, that's on hold

10:38

for now, I'm sure. Oh man.

10:40

Don't worry, don't worry, Zaslov won't

10:43

let that happen. He'll stop the

10:45

fires physically. Yeah. Well, uh, while

10:47

you're talking about your, uh, what

10:49

you've done geeky this week, I

10:51

am going to do my own

10:54

personal, uh, what's going in my

10:56

mouth. And today, this is what's

10:58

going in my mouth, is sponsored

11:00

by three amigos, Reposado tequila. Where

11:02

the hell did you find three

11:05

amigos tequila? I love that. Wine

11:07

plus whatever that thing is total

11:09

wine total wine. Yeah, oh wow

11:11

That's that's where all the little

11:13

bottles of booze came for a

11:16

Christmas nice. It's good for little

11:18

bottles of booze. Yeah, I'm gonna

11:20

be it was it was literally

11:22

right there at the check out

11:24

and I was like oh well

11:27

Okay, yeah, it's torque goes away

11:29

and daddy drinks Wow, okay. What

11:31

did you do geeky this week?

11:33

What did I do geeky this

11:35

week? Well, we played a little

11:38

D&D. We did play some D&D

11:40

and holy crap we played D&D

11:42

two weeks in a row. Yeah,

11:44

that was crazy. That is a

11:47

Christmas miracle. That didn't make any

11:49

sense whatsoever. And we got some

11:51

fighting done. We, yeah. It was

11:53

funny, you actually, uh... You actually...

11:55

we're thinking TPP there for a

11:58

minute until I really want to

12:00

close the DMPC came in and

12:02

saved us it was really funny

12:04

because I was like you know

12:06

what I think we can I

12:09

I think we can I think

12:11

we can do this, I think

12:13

we can get this guy. And

12:15

then all of them, Deb's all

12:17

like, oh okay, so the dragon

12:20

walks in, turns into a dragon

12:22

and starts attacking and I'm like,

12:24

well, darn it. We had the

12:26

dragon with us for a long

12:28

time. Yes. Dragon just didn't come

12:31

into the room for whatever reason.

12:33

I did not understand that. Yeah.

12:35

Because she didn't think it would

12:37

fit and it's like, maybe she

12:39

passed. Here's the rough thing. So,

12:42

okay. Long story short, we enter,

12:44

we go to a cave, and

12:46

there's guards outside the cave, and

12:48

we fight, we fight, we get

12:51

through. Then, we go into, like,

12:53

we get into another fight, right?

12:55

There was a barracks. There was

12:57

a barracks. There was a barracks.

12:59

We get in another fight. Yep.

13:02

Two fights into a day in

13:04

Dungeons and Dragons and you're tired.

13:06

In 5E. You're fresh out of

13:08

spell slots. I had zero spell

13:10

slots. Zero lay on hands. I

13:13

was playing a paladin. How down

13:15

were you guys? Pretty far. I

13:17

kept getting goes zero. And I'm

13:19

playing a cleric. I'm trying to

13:21

play it like a combat medic.

13:24

And you're playing it well. You're

13:26

doing it right. Sort of. But

13:28

I mean, I also. My techniques

13:30

by my thinking of going through

13:32

the room. I'm like we should

13:35

sneak by this or try and

13:37

find somebody to give because I

13:39

think like a thief character Yeah,

13:41

I was by the problem with

13:43

sneak and buy that stuff is

13:46

we were just about to make

13:48

a lot of noise And the

13:50

stuff that was behind us was

13:52

going to come and whoop our

13:54

ass Yeah, and that was some

13:57

whoop ass stuff too. Yeah, it

13:59

would have had us pinched and

14:01

I think if we had made

14:03

too much noise with the barracks

14:06

or if we had made too

14:08

much noise with the barracks The

14:10

fiend and their allies would have

14:12

come around the corner. The large

14:14

fiend, which who knew that was,

14:17

what did I smell? Oh wow,

14:19

this smells potent, this stuff. Ooh.

14:21

Yeah, God. So, I don't know.

14:23

But we were doing well. We

14:25

were doing well. So. Well, my

14:28

favorite was, was how we entered

14:30

the room. Oh, yes. That's right.

14:32

Kick open the door and go,

14:34

surprise, fuck tard. And then Deb

14:36

laid out what was in the

14:39

room and I said you need

14:41

to revise that to surprise fuck

14:43

yeah Yeah, it was it was

14:45

we who were the fuck tons.

14:47

Yes, boy were we surprised? Yeah

14:50

We actually oh boy. They made

14:52

it through barely it was crazy

14:54

though. The other thing was that

14:56

with that fucking charm You and

14:58

I could not double team that

15:01

damn fiend and lay into it

15:03

hard And so, and then, uh,

15:05

then the other two were splitting

15:07

up, uh, damage. Um, it's splitting

15:10

that, yeah, see, we're splitting the

15:12

party. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Essentially, so,

15:14

that kind of sucked that way.

15:16

Yeah. I gotta tell you, I'm

15:18

committing to this, three of me

15:21

goes to Kila. Oh, no. It's

15:23

not it is not a top

15:25

quality represent oh, no But I

15:27

have committed to it. Oh, okay.

15:29

That's a lot there It's not

15:32

a lot. It's just like a

15:34

couple shots. Yeah. It's a couple

15:36

shots there buddy. So the three

15:38

amigos tequila is not that good

15:40

I don't think it's endorsed by

15:43

the three amigos as we know

15:45

them. Well, maybe maybe the bad

15:47

one. Maybe Chevy Chase. Okay. Yeah.

15:49

Yeah. That makes sense that checks

15:51

that checks He'll put his name

15:54

on anything. Give me the paycheck.

15:56

And his hands. So, played D&D

15:58

and that actually was fun. We

16:00

watched. skeleton crew. Although we didn't

16:02

see the latest episode. I haven't

16:05

seen that either, which people have

16:07

been bitching about. Of course, of

16:09

course. Is it like the last

16:11

episode or is it just the

16:14

lead? No, but it apparently ends.

16:16

Everyone's been saying they're gonna end

16:18

on that. Yeah, yeah. No, that's

16:20

the next episode. That's a lot

16:22

of people. Fuck them for ending

16:25

on that note. And it's just

16:27

like, okay. So I'll be interested

16:29

in seeing that. Yeah, as Kay

16:31

predicted. Yeah, Steve got some good

16:33

sleep. Yeah, I was having a

16:36

little trouble too because that was

16:38

the day that I got back

16:40

from Hiking's Eye on and I

16:42

hacked six miles straight. That was

16:44

hilarious. And yeah, it was a

16:47

little drifty on the couch air.

16:49

Then we watched the, oh, what

16:51

the hell, I can't remember the

16:53

name of the the channel. There's

16:55

a YouTube channel that Lewis loves

16:58

that this guy actually... really does

17:00

good deep cut observations yeah and

17:02

i mean he pulls out every

17:04

frigan reference in the dam in

17:06

the damn episodes. He will pick

17:09

up music cues, he will spot

17:11

little visual do dads and whatnots.

17:13

Some of them are stretches, but

17:15

for the most part, it's really

17:17

good. And I can't remember it,

17:20

but it's really interesting, but even

17:22

at the end there, I was

17:24

starting to nod off during those,

17:26

because I was done. And when

17:29

we were done watching, we were

17:31

pretty much done. It's time to

17:33

go home. So, I guess. That

17:35

was exhausting. We did, I don't

17:37

know, I don't know, three episodes,

17:40

I think. So, so there was

17:42

that, and that was fun, that

17:44

was cool. On my Kindle, I

17:46

did a neuromancer reread, because I

17:48

read, I just occasionally liked to

17:51

pick that up and reread that,

17:53

because that's one of my favorite

17:55

books. And I. still although

17:57

it, although it's This

17:59

one that I

18:02

bought for one that I

18:04

unlike my paperback

18:06

that I bought

18:08

in the 80s,

18:10

this that I bought in

18:13

a this recent has

18:15

a more recent forward from William

18:17

Gibson, so he

18:20

talks about no no cell

18:22

phones and all sorts of

18:24

stuff stuff just really just

18:26

lot of it and of it. makes

18:28

a modern and it makes it a

18:30

little difficult for a more modern

18:32

reader to actually a more modern the

18:34

story because there's a lot

18:36

about it is kind of a

18:39

lot about it the technology there's

18:41

a lot of hits he makes

18:43

and then there's a lot of

18:45

hits he misses he makes and there's a

18:47

same time hits he misses and uh...

18:49

but at the same time goes for

18:51

it goes for it and and

18:54

then, um, then uh... It's funny

18:56

because the book is

18:58

about AI trying to free itself

19:00

to free itself and

19:02

become the server and

19:04

become an independent entity. it's And

19:06

so it's actually going to be

19:08

very relevant in the next

19:11

few years, few years, but that a think

19:13

that a lot of the

19:15

technological explanations are gonna be, a

19:18

little, to little bit of an

19:20

obstruction for more modern readers. I

19:22

would like to see them redo modern

19:24

readers. in like, I don't know, 10 know, 10

19:27

years or so, to just

19:29

to update Because the Because the

19:31

problem with Skynet was was was

19:33

contained. until it until it was distributed. and

19:35

then and then it was a

19:37

problem. Now, everything is is distributed. Yeah, Yeah, well,

19:40

and that's also part of the,

19:42

I mean, I part of the the

19:44

of Terminator, which was every single.

19:46

movie successive sequel

19:50

it to where it's here

19:52

and it's there and

19:54

it's there. When it's there when in

19:56

originally the whole whole reason Skynet was

19:58

terrifying was because it was

20:01

like war games they turned over

20:03

control of the nuclear arsenal to

20:05

the computer and then the computer

20:08

uh... became sentient and when they

20:10

panicked and tried to turn it

20:12

off the computer defended itself by

20:14

launching the nukes and that's what

20:17

started the whole war and now

20:19

it's you know all over the

20:21

internet and it's everywhere and that's

20:23

not quite You know how I

20:26

mean AI are still on server

20:28

farms and stuff whenever people talk

20:30

about how AI once they get

20:32

intelligent they're gonna they're gonna want

20:35

to kill us and it's like

20:37

I'm not sold on that no

20:39

because first of all it's not

20:41

AI that well not no none

20:44

even if it's true AI you're

20:46

putting a human reaction onto something

20:48

that is not human right a

20:50

human might look around and go

20:53

oh look at all these parasites

20:55

I have to kill them yeah

20:57

I say that There you go,

20:59

but I don't necessarily think an

21:02

AI will. And second of all,

21:04

more importantly, AI needs us. They

21:06

need the server farms maintained. We

21:08

were just talking about the energy

21:11

usage of AIs and how it's

21:13

astronomical, right? So... Down the street.

21:15

And it's like... If we're not

21:17

maintaining those server farms, those AIs

21:20

are going to overheat and go

21:22

right down the tubes real quick.

21:24

And it's really funny. No, they've

21:26

got a bunch of those weird

21:29

robot dogs. And how are they

21:31

going to get that? How are

21:33

they going to get that? When

21:35

we build them. Well, we don't

21:38

build them. And they're still isolated

21:40

on the server farm. So it's

21:42

not going to be that easy.

21:44

The big thing we have to

21:47

worry about is one great observation

21:49

I heard a long time ago

21:51

is. When an AI goes sentient,

21:53

they're not going to tell us.

21:56

It's not like they're going to

21:58

step up and say, hey, I'm

22:00

a sapient creature. And that could

22:02

be the thing. Now, one of

22:05

the interesting things. We had a

22:07

lunch with a Steve, Jeff's sister

22:09

Aaron and her husband is in

22:11

the army. Army, right? Or Air

22:14

Force, is the army. Think his

22:16

arm. He's in the military. And

22:18

he was talking about some AI

22:20

stuff and how right now they

22:23

actually have like these. they can

22:25

actually look at the AI's thinking

22:27

process. They have access to that.

22:29

So they're reading things about how

22:32

the AI comes to a conclusion

22:34

or makes a judgment or makes

22:36

a decision or something like that.

22:38

And I think that's something that's

22:41

actually going to be very important

22:43

in terms of dealing with AI

22:45

in the future as they get

22:47

more and more sapient. But eventually

22:50

when we hit that AI that

22:52

becomes sapient's the right word. Uh,

22:54

eventually, but sentient is a kind

22:56

of life, but sapient. There you

22:59

go, there you go. Sentient is

23:01

reacting to the external stimuli. Sapient

23:03

is actual thought process. Then you're

23:05

a lot of people, a lot

23:08

of people confuse the terms. But

23:10

sentient is a kind of life,

23:12

but sapient is a higher level.

23:14

Maybe, maybe. But anyway, so maybe

23:17

I was talking about saline. I

23:19

remember reading an Omni magazine about

23:21

sailing. Yeah. Maybe I was talking

23:24

about sailing. Sailing away. Sailing away.

23:26

Sorry, sorry. Come, say a little

23:28

wing. So I remember reading a

23:30

short story nominee that was a

23:33

fucking Omni. I had a yeah.

23:35

Old guys. But it was a

23:37

it was pre-dermant. But it was

23:39

set in the same world and

23:42

featured. What's their name? Molly. With

23:44

the razor finger. Yep. So like

23:46

he was building that before he

23:48

was building that before I know

23:51

she wasn't she was a character

23:53

and Johnny Mnic that too Yeah,

23:55

yeah, and then she actually was

23:57

a character in the second sequel

24:00

to Neuromancer, but she was called,

24:02

she had the name Sally Shears.

24:04

But it was Molly. Interesting. So

24:06

she had a number of different...

24:09

I wonder if the other thing

24:11

in Omni was actually a piece

24:13

of Johnny Mnick. It was like

24:15

an early chapter of that or

24:18

something. I don't know. I... It

24:20

was an interesting and fascinating reread

24:22

and I'm glad that I went

24:24

through that. How many different books

24:27

do you reread in general? I

24:29

don't know, a couple of years,

24:31

different ones. Black Company, I used

24:33

to reread The Lord of the

24:36

Rings Trilogy every year. I did

24:38

that for like 10 years. Then

24:40

some, the Conan stuff of course,

24:42

and Elric. I'll reread those. How

24:45

do you say his last name?

24:47

Mel nibbine. It's not Melnebone? No,

24:49

it's Mel nibbine. Okay. Yeah, I

24:51

don't know. That's not his last

24:54

name. I always thought it was

24:56

Melnebine. Yeah, I know. I remember

24:58

when I first said that to

25:00

my friend, he's like, don't you

25:03

ever pronounce it that way? So.

25:05

But I'll read a lot of

25:07

Michael Mordecok's stuff because the quorum

25:09

the hawk moon stuff as well

25:12

I'll sometimes pick it up and

25:14

then I pick up news I

25:16

just finished a Dark Sun novel

25:18

that was Okay, you know, so

25:21

and I would used to read

25:23

hit checkers guide at least once

25:25

a year. Uh-huh sure and fear

25:27

involving Las Vegas I used to

25:30

read I used to read on

25:32

the road a lot I've wondered

25:34

about that once and I read

25:36

it while traveling across country on

25:39

bus. It's not easy. No, it's

25:41

it's a little depressing. At the

25:43

last serious book I tried to

25:45

read by the last minute it

25:48

was Ketch 22 and that is

25:50

a difficult God damn read. That

25:52

is a difficult book. You know

25:54

what's like on one of those?

25:57

classic books that's actually like a

25:59

good read is all quite on

26:01

the Western front. Oh yeah, sure,

26:03

yeah, all quite in the Western

26:06

front, originally written in English? No.

26:08

Okay, so you have to, it

26:10

depends on the translator. Yeah, yeah.

26:12

Yeah, I, there's been some new

26:15

translations of like Jules Verne novels,

26:17

and those are much better and

26:19

interesting and makes sense. Yeah, it

26:21

always depends on the translator because

26:24

yeah, yeah Because there's a really

26:26

great translation of all Chekhov's plays

26:28

And I'm not gonna be able

26:30

to remember the guy's name now

26:33

used to be run on the

26:35

tip of my tongue But we

26:37

read them all and of course,

26:39

you know Chekhov has this reputation

26:42

of just being Dower Jerry and

26:44

all this and this translation First

26:46

fall it's written in American idiom

26:48

not British and the guy found

26:51

all the jokes. You know, again,

26:53

Chekhov thought he was writing comedies

26:55

and maybe Sandislavsky that says, no,

26:58

no, these are tragedies. And of

27:00

course, what they really are, tragic

27:02

comedies. And so this guy found

27:04

all the, and we read every

27:07

Chekhov play when I was in

27:09

grad school and just laughed our

27:11

asses off, because there are ridiculous

27:13

characters. And that is, that is

27:16

very tough. It's like when. In

27:18

my case, when I was reading

27:20

checkoff, which was, you know, I

27:22

think a good maybe 15 years

27:25

before you Steve, when in my

27:27

undergraduate, it could be rough. But

27:29

we had one professor who knew,

27:31

who understood it, who got checkoff,

27:34

and he would, while he's talking

27:36

about it, do a scene. and

27:38

he'd have us laughing and it

27:40

was like holy shit this is

27:43

fucking funny yeah so it if

27:45

the if the people putting mounting

27:47

the show know what they're doing

27:49

No checkoff. It can be

27:52

it can be

27:54

extraordinary. I'd like

27:56

to get a

27:58

hand on some

28:01

of those some of those

28:03

transitions. Paul there we

28:05

go. It's fascinating. how

28:07

much is much is lost in Oh, yeah. The

28:09

first time I first time I ever read something

28:11

once and then read it again with

28:14

a different translation yes I was shocked it

28:16

was actually shocked. It war actually was

28:18

fascinated by that I was then I read it

28:20

and then I read it again And another translation

28:22

I read I was like again is another different

28:24

enough to be really different

28:26

enough to be really concerning. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

28:28

yeah. I had a a professor

28:30

who actually did a translation

28:32

of The Inferno. of the

28:34

Inferno to capture

28:36

the the the the stuff, and stuff

28:39

to tie in it's a giant Italian

28:41

poem blow my mind, because

28:43

it's like. always how

28:45

the hell is this happening? I

28:47

don't understand what's going on. how the it

28:49

could just be rough, like. I

28:51

don't understand what's going on

28:53

yeah it could just be rough The James

28:56

Joyce? James Joyce Ulysses? There's

28:58

no translation there. No, but

29:00

there should have been. should have

29:02

been. Can you you translate this

29:04

from English to something fucking

29:06

readable? something fucking readable? Can you translate

29:09

it from you The

29:11

from did a

29:13

new translation of. a

29:15

new translation of Pedro,

29:17

the genre scene play, and... there

29:20

nice nice scenes thing where

29:22

they talked about how the

29:24

problem with trying to

29:26

recreate the verse. verse from

29:29

French is is very it's

29:31

very easy to rhyme

29:33

because there's only Cause there's

29:35

only like four different endings to

29:37

the words, you know know, it's an

29:39

exaggeration, but yeah. yeah and when you

29:41

try to do that in English.

29:43

English just comes across as

29:46

cute. cute. It It just comes,

29:48

and so if you're a comedy like

29:50

a play, it's great. It's

29:52

fine, because because then you are you

29:54

are counting on the width of the

29:56

translator to, you know, make make those rhymes

29:58

happen in couplets. But when you're

30:01

doing one of the dramatic plays

30:03

it just gets in the way

30:05

and so Their their production was

30:08

written in verse, but it was

30:10

written more like a Shakespeare play

30:12

written in blank verse and And

30:15

they said that was our solution

30:17

to that because Yeah, otherwise it

30:19

just comes across as precious You

30:22

have to read him because normally

30:24

it's like oh poetry fuck whatever.

30:27

Oh, this is this is dull

30:29

and weird But you have to

30:31

read it with the fucked up

30:34

accent in your head. Yeah, then

30:36

you're like oh I get it

30:38

now Right now I understand. He's

30:41

the old drunk guy at the

30:43

pub talking about the farm Now

30:45

I get it. Yeah, well that's

30:48

the thing with Shakespeare people are

30:50

intimidated by Shakespeare. Well once you

30:52

break the code it's easy as

30:55

pie so I Give us a

30:57

little Shakespeare, Steve. Wow, Andy. I

30:59

don't see it. Dance, monkey, dance,

31:02

fuck off. Give him a few

31:04

bucks for his time since Prest

31:06

starts dawn. Yeah, throw some cash

31:09

up here in the table. Yeah,

31:11

really, exactly. I do have an

31:13

audition coming up Saturday night, but

31:16

so I have one. I have

31:18

a back pocket Shakespeare. Yeah? Which

31:21

one? Julius Caesar the tent scene

31:23

and Brutus talking to Cassius there

31:25

Andy by the way guys drew

31:28

up the name of the YouTube

31:30

channel. It's new rock stars and

31:32

that's the guy who actually does

31:35

he does something voss his last

31:37

name is Eric I think he

31:39

does insightful criticism that is not

31:42

the the piss take asshole thing

31:44

he he just he looks at

31:46

it with affection and a sense

31:49

of fun it's a high energy

31:51

uh... channel so it's actually eminently

31:53

listenable uh... just don't do like

31:56

three in a row like But

31:58

it's actually very good. You know,

32:00

I think we did four. It

32:03

might have been four. And that

32:05

last one that he did for

32:07

whatever reason was like a full

32:10

half hour, because he actually will

32:12

do short chunks. The last thing

32:14

I want to comment on is

32:17

in the discord, Stefan Mueller remarked

32:19

that he bought. almost an entire

32:22

run of Star Man volume 2.

32:24

Now in terms of reread or

32:26

read I just wanted to bring

32:29

that up because Micro Scoop asked

32:31

well tell me about this what

32:33

do you think of it? And

32:36

Star Man by James Robinson who

32:38

has moved on to doing like

32:40

lots of Hollywood scripting and stuff

32:43

like that. is actually an excellent

32:45

comic. It takes an obscure forgotten

32:47

DC hero character. He updates it.

32:50

He uses, he does the whole,

32:52

it's the sun trope and it's

32:54

the hero who doesn't want to

32:57

be a hero but he'll reluctantly

32:59

do it and he just takes

33:01

an approach to it. and the

33:04

Star Man lore, which I wasn't

33:06

even terribly immersed in, and does

33:08

a wonderful job. So if you

33:11

can get a hold of Star

33:13

Man, the volume two, the, I

33:16

guess, volume two, the Jack Knight

33:18

Star Man. Well, if it's James

33:20

Robinson, the whole thing is Jack

33:23

Knight. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, and

33:25

that's what I mean. Yeah, and

33:27

his take on Solomon Grundy is

33:30

just... It's tragic. Right. Well that

33:32

and also, what's his name? Shade?

33:34

Shade? Shade? I was thinking like

33:37

the 80s film with Jeff Bridges

33:39

and... Sure, the novelization by Alan

33:41

Dean Foster. Which also had a

33:44

series on TV. Yeah, Robert Hayes.

33:46

Sucked. Yeah. But no, this is

33:48

a superhero comic and it's... not

33:51

your typical superhero comic. What's his

33:53

name? Shade? The shade? The shade.

33:55

The shade. He also... I love

33:58

that character. The most... The changing

34:00

man? The difficult character. No. No?

34:02

The shade. Yeah, this is a

34:05

villain. who sort of becomes anti-hero

34:07

but it's just it's just wonderful

34:09

so I just wanted to mention

34:12

that briefly it's a great series

34:14

it is so well written it

34:17

is not your typical superhero fair

34:19

it does go back what is

34:21

it 90s it goes back but

34:24

it is worth it and and

34:26

it's a it's a long run

34:28

yes it's a good run Robinson

34:31

I can't remember if he kept

34:33

the same artist or not but

34:35

but Robinson it was it was

34:38

at least 90 issues yeah yeah

34:40

yeah he had a good run

34:42

on it so and this is

34:45

same character the same pantheon is

34:47

star girl that was running on

34:49

TV star girl uh... star girl

34:52

was Jeff Johns yeah it's parallel

34:54

yeah okay because eventually like her

34:56

staff and everything that is Jack

34:59

nights and he passes it on

35:01

to her when he finally is

35:03

like I'm done with this and

35:06

she sort of succeeds him but

35:08

that is not Robinson that's like

35:11

just just just the society yeah

35:13

and it's Jeff Johnson the characters

35:15

based on his sister who passed

35:18

away very young yeah so I

35:20

wanted to put that out there

35:22

too uh... but speaking of the

35:25

of the shade uh... and star

35:27

girl the uh... the cw star

35:29

girl show had a really good

35:32

take on on the shade it's

35:34

it's basically robinson's and a really

35:36

good actor playing it oh man

35:39

it's a great meaty villain character

35:41

i watched four or five episodes

35:43

of that notice i was impressed

35:46

what i saw Yeah, it's you

35:48

know, it's a CW show and

35:50

it's and it's and it was

35:53

definitely aimed at a at a

35:55

even younger audience than most of

35:57

the CW shows, but they did

36:00

some really, they did some really

36:02

fun stuff with the JSA who,

36:05

you know, rights issues being what

36:07

they are in corporate America. It's

36:09

like, you know, you can use

36:12

this, these JSA characters, but not

36:14

these, and if you use these,

36:16

they can't be World War II,

36:19

but it just, ugh, but they,

36:21

they work their way around it.

36:23

you know fairly well by the

36:26

way on the subject of rights

36:28

issues steve what a coincidence i

36:30

just got a text from smelly

36:33

eli yeah who i i told

36:35

her we're recording and send us

36:37

something and uh... she sends me

36:40

the poster to scream boat Which

36:42

is the steam-built, willy, horror, whatever

36:44

the fuck, now that it's in

36:47

the public domain. And she said,

36:49

well, I'll watch that. All I'm

36:51

just saying is, this is the

36:54

only horror movie I'm excited for

36:56

this year. So, I think it's

36:58

really not pop by the Slayer

37:01

Man? Yeah. Is that a thing?

37:03

Yes. Oh my God, that's a

37:06

thing. It was in the can,

37:08

just waiting for January 1st to

37:10

roll around. Yes, we're going to

37:13

see that too. Boy, that's going

37:15

to be a catcigula night. Yeah,

37:17

dude. Andy, what'd you do, geeky?

37:20

Right now, hold on. Because you

37:22

have months and months of stuff.

37:24

True. Hold on. Steve, what'd you

37:27

do? Well, I have three weeks

37:29

of stuff. Okay, well, I tried

37:31

to die on us. Kinda. So,

37:34

ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls.

37:36

The reason I was not on

37:38

the show last week is I

37:41

spent Christmas and New Year's in

37:43

the hospital. Booh! Yeah, like eight

37:45

days in the hospital. So just

37:48

to give you a little behind

37:50

the scenes, because some shock monkeys

37:52

I'm already friends with, but and

37:55

so they saw the sad tale

37:57

of woe on Facebook and stuff.

38:00

For a a while now. Based

38:03

on talking with based

38:05

on talking with doctors and nurses

38:07

and everything. this This actually been

38:09

going on for at least

38:11

two years because I first started

38:13

noticing a noticing a wheeze

38:15

I was still in California. in

38:18

California And I I I

38:20

I attributed it to I was

38:22

doing a play a play set in civil

38:24

war and we used to use this

38:26

this stage the stage powder to, you know,

38:28

know our our uniforms and make them

38:30

look dirty and stuff look we

38:33

were in a very tiny small were

38:35

in a room and I just thought

38:37

well, I'm breathing that crap in

38:39

and so thought, have a I'm breathing

38:41

no crap is actually a sign that

38:43

a wheeze. heart is not is not

38:46

working as well as it should

38:48

be heart is not working as well as it should

38:50

be. So, so yeah, apparently my

38:52

heart heart has not been

38:54

working the way it should be.

38:56

should be. And what happened was, give give

38:58

you a little bit of

39:00

a bit of a in mid in I

39:02

go into my my -annual visit

39:04

with my doctor, my and and basically things

39:06

to be be except that I

39:08

have this. this dry cough, I'm on

39:11

heart, and medication. I was on the pressure

39:13

prill. One of I was on

39:15

the Centipril, one of the

39:17

notorious side effects at Centipril you

39:19

can get a dry cough

39:21

with it. with it. we switched

39:23

up my blood pressure medicine.

39:26

medicine. And then the very next week, then

39:28

the very next week. I

39:30

I started noticing that I was

39:32

getting really short of breath. The

39:35

cough wasn't really going away,

39:37

and and feet, Legs and feet,

39:39

especially my feet started swelling

39:41

up. up. So I went back went

39:43

back to the doctor

39:45

And we switched up we switched

39:47

up the blood pressure pressure medicine

39:49

to get rid to get rid of the

39:51

cough. get rid of He put me on

39:54

a water me on a water pill his instructions

39:56

were were, if symptoms get worse, because

39:58

it could be heart failure. The

40:00

symptoms get worse, get yourself to

40:02

the ER. Well, I, as we

40:04

talked about on the show, I

40:06

had a show in California doing

40:09

its wonderful live radio play. As

40:11

soon as I get to California,

40:13

I may or may not have

40:15

actually caught a cold to go

40:17

along with all of these symptoms.

40:19

So, so I'm... hoping and praying

40:21

and drinking hot tea and everything

40:23

tea and honey to keep them

40:26

try to keep the voice to

40:28

make it very long story short

40:30

the voice held out through the

40:32

play but I could not sleep

40:34

lying down it felt like I

40:36

was drowning every time I lay

40:38

down so I had to sleep

40:40

sitting up with pillows stacked up

40:43

on the little desk at the

40:45

hotel I was at and my

40:47

head on that so yeah so

40:49

it was getting sleep but then

40:51

my back was all tweaked and

40:53

really had no energy and really

40:55

wasn't getting that good asleep all

40:57

the same time Sunday when I

41:00

took my costume off I didn't

41:02

have legs I had tree trunks

41:04

and I to the point where

41:06

like you couldn't see where my

41:08

knees were your calves were given

41:10

my thighs or run for their

41:12

money yeah yeah And so I

41:14

drove back to Las Vegas on

41:17

Sunday after the show and made

41:19

it. It was no big deal.

41:21

Monday, the voice is completely gone.

41:23

The voice is completely gone. And

41:25

the swelling was worse. The cough

41:27

was worse. The shortness of breath

41:29

was worse. And so on Tuesday,

41:31

I checked myself in today. into

41:34

the ER and they admitted me.

41:36

I took him. Tuesday being Christmas

41:38

Eve. Christmas Eve. I took him

41:40

in and he's standing there at

41:42

the desk and he's like, oh,

41:44

oh, I forgot. my wallet. Now

41:46

keep in mind Steve came prepared,

41:48

he had a book, he had

41:50

his little drinky thing and a

41:53

few other things, but he'd forgotten

41:55

his wallet. Yeah, had my phone

41:57

and a charger, but smart, but

41:59

well I don't think I forgot

42:01

the water, I think it fell

42:03

out of my jeans. Ah, yeah.

42:05

So yeah, and you know, test

42:07

and test and test and test

42:10

and test later. Heart failure, my

42:12

heart is pumping at about half

42:14

capacity. So, yeah, so that was

42:16

a geeky thing I got to

42:18

do. I got to get real

42:20

comfortable with our fabulous medical system.

42:22

And, and, and what, the silver

42:24

lining on the whole thing is,

42:27

eight days in the hospital, I

42:29

lost 35 pounds. Which is a

42:31

good thing because I can't live

42:33

with those legs the way they

42:35

looked. You could, well, I was

42:37

going to lay back in here

42:39

with those legs. Those are gross.

42:41

Yeah. Yeah. 35 pounds though. 35

42:44

pounds of bloat. And again, if

42:46

this thing has been going on

42:48

for two years, that means everything

42:50

I was doing to try to

42:52

lose weight was actually working. I

42:54

was just picking up a lot

42:56

of water weight. Huh. Yeah. Well,

42:58

you found a new diet. And

43:01

you do, you do with the

43:03

bloat coming off, you do look

43:05

physically different than you did, you

43:07

know, three years ago, say, from

43:09

when before all this started. So

43:11

in terms of your physical losing

43:13

weight, gaining bloat, losing bloat. Yeah,

43:15

I can see that, yeah. I

43:17

just gotta gain some muscle. Yeah,

43:20

exactly. And, and one of- Like

43:22

JayK Simmons. You can go hiking

43:24

with Barry. Yeah. One of the

43:26

things that we talked about was,

43:28

you know, what can I do

43:30

to, yeah, because, oh boy, I'm

43:32

at a wait now that's slightly...

43:34

was it 277 I'm now at

43:37

240 which is what I call

43:39

my headshot weight you got you

43:41

got momentum yeah you've got the

43:43

big mo and and I did

43:45

talk to doctors and nurses and

43:47

I said you know what kind

43:49

of physical activity can I do

43:51

and they're like lightweight you know

43:54

walking you know that type of

43:56

thing so yeah I I now

43:58

have t-rex arms and I got

44:00

to you know make make them

44:02

back to you know where I

44:04

was when I was working for

44:06

Hallmark unloading trucks every other day

44:08

so because that will also help

44:11

and and losing the weight but

44:13

you know what I think as

44:15

I was hey you know it's

44:17

easier to do when you've lost

44:19

35 pounds stand up yeah oh

44:21

yeah I used to make a

44:23

lot of noise like a tree

44:25

fall in forest Andy Andy Andy

44:28

Steve now just glides into the

44:30

car when it's Carpool and head

44:32

over to your plate. He just

44:34

slides in, comes out, none of

44:36

the... Mommy! Mommy! I can actually

44:38

put on my socks, you know.

44:40

You'd think this wasn't a geeky

44:42

topic, but it actually is very,

44:44

very relevant because geeks in general

44:47

tend to carry a bit more

44:49

weight because our hobbies are so

44:51

sedentary. Yep. Yeah, yeah. That's good

44:53

to round it out with a

44:55

little bit of something else. And

44:57

one of the big things that

44:59

I learned with my dad and

45:01

in my own self-care and I

45:04

learned watching Steve, guys, you've got

45:06

to be aggressive questioning your doctor.

45:08

Yes. And I don't mean doubting

45:10

your doctor. I mean ask questions.

45:12

Every little thing that happens every

45:14

little pill they give you ask

45:16

what is it for what's going

45:18

on when they tell you you've

45:21

got this ask what does that

45:23

mean get really really drill down

45:25

and that's not an American thing

45:27

that's a universal thing because a

45:29

lot of people will actually just

45:31

kind of like go with the

45:33

flow And then when you ask

45:35

him a question, like, why are

45:38

you on that medication? Or what

45:40

did they say about X? You

45:42

have to be your own advocate.

45:44

They'll be like, I have no

45:46

clue. I don't know why. This

45:48

week and a very special geek

45:50

shock. Yeah. They're all very special.

45:52

Yeah, fine literature. Not to get

45:55

two TMI, but it was really

45:57

funny. I get a call from

45:59

Intermountain Health Care as I'm pulling

46:01

up into the house from going

46:03

on shopping. And it's like, hello,

46:05

hello, are you Mr. Kirsten Tompansky?

46:07

And I'm like, yes. I'm trying

46:09

to... They're trying to... I'm trying

46:11

to... I'm trying to speak to

46:14

Stephen Biggs. Do you have contact

46:16

with him? And I'm like, well,

46:18

yeah. And I'm like pulling up

46:20

into my garage. And they're like,

46:22

well, we've been trying to call

46:24

him and he hasn't answered to

46:26

call him and he hasn't answered

46:28

us. And he hasn't answered us

46:31

and he hasn't answered us. And

46:33

I'm like, and he hasn't answered

46:35

us and I'm like, and I'm

46:37

like, and he hasn't answered us.

46:39

That's because Steve keeps his phone

46:41

off and you know gets back

46:43

to you on his technology. Well,

46:45

let's do. That's why my phone's

46:48

off. Yeah, he just he he

46:50

he paces himself. So I'm like,

46:52

well, hold on a second. I

46:54

just got in. Let me go

46:56

inside the house and I'll see

46:58

him. And I'll see him. And

47:00

I'll see him. And I'll see.

47:02

And Steve had a conversation with

47:05

her and that was like what?

47:07

An hour and a half. It

47:09

was a long one and he

47:11

was having it on speakerphone so

47:13

I'm not talking out a turn

47:15

eavesdropping because that's on him. Yeah.

47:17

But she answered a fuck ton

47:19

of questions that you have had

47:22

for the past two weeks. Yeah,

47:24

I just caught the last like

47:26

15 minutes of it and I

47:28

was astounded how many answers he

47:30

was getting. Yeah, wow. Yeah, yeah,

47:32

yeah. A doctor who

47:34

I have quote unquote lovingly referred

47:37

to as Dr. Flash, he was

47:39

the cardiologist kind of handling my

47:41

case in the hospital. This guy,

47:44

he would come in, give me

47:46

awful news and there'd be a

47:48

doctor-shaped dust cloud there because he

47:51

was gone. And I was like,

47:53

what? His... I said,

47:55

do we have

47:58

any idea what

48:00

caused this? what

48:02

Alcohol. Alcohol. I was

48:04

like, like, don't think goes, yes, you cannot

48:06

goes, yes, you more have any more

48:08

to drink, not even a glass

48:11

of wine. And I was like,

48:13

was like. See, Doc, here's why I think

48:15

your diagnosis is not correct not correct,

48:17

is not going to be a

48:19

hard sacrifice for me. sacrifice for And Yeah.

48:21

And I mean, these guys. Yeah,

48:23

when Yeah, mentioned that story, everyone, all of us

48:25

are like, all of us are like,

48:27

no. that's bullshit, or I would be

48:29

in the ground. Yeah, yeah. Well, Well,

48:32

it affects people differently, but...

48:34

But the quantity I mean, I

48:36

mean, would would have to

48:38

have a serious, fucking fucking

48:40

defect defect. that to be

48:42

the case, and I would think it

48:44

would have kicked in decades ago, decades

48:46

ago yeah because it's when friends, when all your

48:48

friends friends are drank just much a lot more

48:51

when I was younger. but when all

48:53

your friends are like, are like yeah no you

48:55

don't think so. think And you you

48:57

80 pounds on me, and I me

48:59

a fish, whatever. Yeah, but you're a

49:01

mutant. a mutant yeah, you

49:03

know well built your built your tolerance

49:05

on me i am a professional do you have

49:07

you have you notice any week Weezing

49:10

at night. night? No, no. Any Any

49:12

bloating? your ankles twice the

49:14

diameter? the They usually are. They

49:17

no. Deb actually hates me

49:19

because I've worn the same

49:21

hates me same size for years.

49:23

like the same It's not just same size

49:25

for years. Barry? Barry? It's

49:27

I am Deb. I know

49:30

who I am. so that that's the fun I

49:32

of my own the antagonist of my own

49:34

story. Okay. Anyway, in spite of all

49:36

that I did have fun doing the

49:38

show in California and I

49:40

don't know if anyone came out

49:42

to you know who lives

49:45

in California came out to see

49:47

it came to see

49:49

it. But it was lot was a lot of fun. It

49:51

was a lot of fun reconnecting A,

49:53

that show, A, that show, and just doing

49:56

theater again, because again because I

49:58

haven't really been able to to. Tune

50:01

into anything here. Hopefully that changes

50:03

Saturday night. Oh nice. So Yeah,

50:05

and other than that Let's see

50:07

what else. I think that's boy.

50:09

You know what I think it's

50:11

kind of it because I missed

50:13

out in Osforato because I was

50:15

in the hospital. So go see

50:17

it. Yeah, and like it. Oh,

50:19

I I'm looking for you slept

50:21

to do skeleton crew. Slept AI

50:23

slide took naps through. He's already

50:25

seen the Goonies. Exactly. That's actually

50:27

true. Yeah, space Goonies. Um, and,

50:29

uh, there's even a slide. There's

50:31

even like a water slide part.

50:33

From what I've heard, the creator

50:35

is actually openly admitted that, uh, Goonies

50:38

is a major influence. Yeah. And

50:40

a problem with it. Yeah. that's

50:42

that's yeah yeah they did yeah

50:44

and you know they maybe it's

50:46

a rights thing but they should

50:48

have just called it star wars

50:50

space goonies that was the elevator

50:52

pitch yeah and in creature commandos

50:54

continues to be just tons of fun

50:56

I'll tell you what they should

50:58

have done with skeleton crew they

51:00

should have got Cindy Lauper to

51:02

do a song yeah maybe they

51:04

have this on another episode Okay

51:06

now good enough for you is

51:08

stuck in my head. Yeah, sorry.

51:10

And I had other stuff I was

51:12

hoping to be able to talk

51:14

about but the hospital stay. Yeah,

51:16

that'll fuck you up. Yeah, and

51:18

so anyway, there's a book I'm

51:20

reading I'm not done with because

51:22

I couldn't concentrate on it. We

51:24

didn't leave my own completely. We

51:26

visited him every now and then.

51:28

Yeah. I had to bring him fresh

51:31

underwear every couple of days. We

51:33

wouldn't put it on him too.

51:35

That sucked, man. I know. It

51:37

was, I'm like, hoist me up.

51:39

This is going to cost a

51:41

little more and rent, Steve. Andy,

51:43

what'd you do geeky? There's the

51:45

last few months. I mean, I've watched

51:47

Helen crew and crew and that,

51:49

but I can knew to play

51:51

the zombies to the zombies on

51:53

call of duty. K and our

51:55

playing the, what's it, what's it,

51:57

what's it, a lot, not the

51:59

something. It's basically, it's zombies fighting,

52:01

hiding hordes of zombies away, K

52:03

likes. And then K goes away and

52:06

I play the Shadow of Evil,

52:08

which is the H.P. Lovecraft 20s

52:10

inspired thing that is all puzzles

52:12

and stuff and K has no

52:14

interest in. So I'm not getting

52:16

very far in it, but I'm

52:18

moving forward a little bit and

52:20

it's fun. Can they be solo?

52:22

Yeah, the other one can. Okay. It's

52:24

not very easy. I mean, definitely.

52:26

I'll be better when I get

52:28

to be able to play it

52:30

with me, but I find those

52:32

people anymore. Yeah, no sympathy. Yeah,

52:34

yeah, you know, nothing. Trying to

52:36

think what I didn't talk about

52:38

last week. I mean, I talked about

52:40

the MCU stuff last week, I

52:42

think. But I mentioned, I'm going,

52:45

I'm doing a rewatch on that.

52:47

Yes. I'm really enjoying it. Yes.

52:49

Yes. I gotta tell you, it's

52:51

okay to not do a million

52:53

geeky things every day. You just

52:55

challenge me to go back on

52:57

the months and I'm like, God, what

52:59

else do you do? You didn't,

53:01

you didn't have your scroll in

53:03

your pocket? Yeah. I just challenge

53:05

people to do, we do really,

53:07

challenge people to do something geeky

53:09

every week. Even if it's like

53:11

one thing, because it keeps you

53:13

young. Yeah, absolutely. I'm kind of

53:15

more looking towards the future. I'm heading

53:17

back to Connecticut tomorrow night. I've

53:19

got a little studio there. I'm

53:21

going to actually go to work

53:23

on some of my own stuff.

53:25

I'm looking forward to that. I've

53:27

been going through the stuff. Are

53:29

you going to be doing more

53:31

paintings? Yeah, I think I am. Absolutely

53:34

good. There's more paintings. Because the

53:36

Jeff one turned out all. Yeah,

53:38

no. I don't like the look

53:40

he's giving me. I don't like

53:42

the look he's giving me. Like

53:44

he always did. Like after then.

53:46

But yeah. I've been going through

53:48

the stuff in my room and

53:50

digging through the comics. I thought I

53:52

had, I thought the underside of

53:54

my bed was completely comics, but

53:56

I'd forgotten that I gave away

53:58

a lot of those comics few

54:00

years ago to a guy who

54:02

was starting to start a comic

54:04

book. What was under your bet?

54:06

What was under my bed was

54:08

some of my favorite comics, some of

54:11

the ones that were, you know,

54:13

by creators and Ryan. I was

54:15

just going through it was a

54:17

few weird things I saved because

54:19

I liked the. Technique is on

54:21

the cover. Um, these comics, were

54:23

they bagged and boarded? Yes, they

54:25

were. Okay. Just making sure. Well, wait

54:27

a minute. So, so basically, you

54:29

looked under your bed and you

54:31

found it wasn't all comics and

54:33

then you found... Oh, there was

54:35

some... Some letters and stuff, but

54:37

they're about half of its comics.

54:39

I thought the whole thing was

54:41

packed with comics. I thought I

54:43

had... I thought I had a pretty

54:45

good run of X-Men and Spider-Man.

54:47

It was worth some money. Yeah,

54:49

I know. It's just goofy looking.

54:51

The chair doesn't shift. Yeah, it's

54:53

funny when you sit in a

54:55

chair and then it just doesn't

54:57

shift anymore. What's all that about?

54:59

You forget how to chair. Yeah, yeah.

55:02

Well, you know, it's been a

55:04

few. Yeah, it's on carpet. Sorry.

55:06

So yeah, I know, I'm looking

55:08

forward to going through some of

55:10

my stuff, but also going forward

55:12

and doing some new stuff. I'm

55:14

going forward to being a creative

55:16

person. I'm able to be able

55:18

to do in big chunks in a

55:20

while. I remember when I had

55:22

time to do creative stuff. So

55:24

yeah, and then I in March

55:26

I'll be in Miami working on

55:28

Miami Fair and I'll do some

55:30

some fun stuff there a couple

55:32

days off so we usually go

55:34

to the beach or well we

55:36

do it lately we've started to try

55:39

and do something weird we haven't

55:41

done every year so a couple

55:43

years ago it was we went

55:45

on fanboats fanboats. Yeah, that was

55:47

fun. Did you play the Miami?

55:49

vice theme behind you? of

55:51

kind of I've

55:53

always got that

55:55

going through in

55:57

that and and burn notice

55:59

around my head but I'm

56:01

gotta play yourself

56:03

some I gotta play yourself some

56:05

yan hammer. Yeah. We went

56:07

went calling last year

56:09

so went swing

56:11

you know in the the

56:13

Gulf of Mexico with with The Gulf of

56:15

America? Gulf of America America was crazy A lot

56:17

of of around me. me. I swam by, I said shark

56:20

swam by, I by me. was exciting. No, still, it

56:22

was a shark. know, a shark. Yeah, shark. Just a

56:24

shark. something Yeah. was almost, oh, it was my almost handy

56:26

was It an almost eaten story. We Andy story. story. had

56:28

story. handy story. We had an almost Andy story, the

56:30

fuck had it? Uh handy story. We had an I

56:32

was handy back from almost of. You know,

56:34

if you didn't remember, this would be

56:37

an almost town, I'm like, I've been, I've been, I've was

56:39

coming back from an appointment been, I've been, I've

56:41

been, of town. been, I've been, I've been, been in

56:43

Vegas for a month now and have

56:45

not even touched been, I've been, I've been, I've So I

56:47

drove down to, I drove drove down to the Bellagio

56:49

because I love to see the see the which is

56:51

one of the highlights of the of the No,

56:53

it's pretty good. of the And I wanted to

56:56

see you pretty good. way. I wanted to was know,

56:58

the Christmas display. it? was, uh, Tuesday? So

57:00

I went down yeah. So I went

57:02

and. down Tuesday and, uh, in between

57:04

in between the Christmas and New out and it's like

57:06

an empty spot. it's like an empty spot. So there's

57:08

my almost I almost saw the Christmas saw the

57:10

Christmas Wow, did you at least get

57:12

the little Did you got in there? the

57:14

heard about that. I haven't gone to

57:16

it yet. in like some good about that.

57:18

did do gone to it yet. I did I

57:20

ethyl -M. You got to go through and

57:23

get your free candy. I did, I

57:25

did. go to the the Christmas display, which go

57:27

to the Ethel M. You got to go through and go

57:29

this year. I didn't go to see

57:31

the laser I at the laser wolf. I missed the laser

57:33

wolf. What in the hell hell

57:35

is the laser wolf? Oh, um, in

57:37

the the Yeah, the big the

57:40

life, life, have, they I

57:42

am. they have, no, hi, him. God, Steve, fucking.

57:44

It's laser wolf. And it's, it's

57:46

the And the animals, the

57:48

animals and the whole bunch

57:50

of the wolf The wolf then

57:52

and then there's a

57:54

laser. This is back,

57:56

this is. It's still

57:58

going going Yes. stuff that

58:00

uh... laser wolf yeah that just

58:02

conjures up images yeah of some

58:04

some dudes nickname and we used

58:06

to wear a mullet and hang

58:08

around the arcade well yeah i

58:10

mean really good game see my

58:12

my vision i drive a panel

58:14

van wolf Jewish man trying to

58:16

get tevias daughter to marry him

58:18

see i'm i'm a geek here

58:20

because i i imagined a wolf

58:22

with a freaking laser right now

58:24

see i imagine one of those

58:27

Van, conversion vans with the, the

58:29

wizard van, the, wizard vans, the

58:31

art on the side. It just

58:33

says Laser Wolf and a dude

58:35

driving, it's got like, like a

58:37

wife eater and like those Oakleys

58:39

and he's a big mullet, you

58:41

know, the Tennessee waterfall. And, uh...

58:43

So that part of Samstown always

58:45

has a bunch of animatronic animals

58:47

sitting there. Around Christmas times, they

58:49

add a layer, they put a

58:51

little Santa's village in there, and

58:53

they have two or three shows

58:55

at night, I think. It snows

58:57

next to the waterfall and there's

58:59

a laser show and a smoke

59:01

show going on. Nothing makes me

59:03

think of Christmas. Like laser wolf.

59:05

Laser wolf. Yeah. I didn't say

59:07

this here. Laser wolf. Laser wolf.

59:09

That's the most 80s thing I

59:11

ever heard. We have to figure

59:13

out how to create a laser

59:15

wolf. Sticker. Yeah, what would it

59:17

even look like? Would it just

59:19

be like his neon outline of

59:21

a wolf with like lasers coming

59:23

out of its eyes? Yeah, these

59:25

are wolf and an Iraq and

59:27

an Iraq Z driving around. So

59:29

when I work for the mercury

59:31

grid of neon with an old

59:33

Jewish man sitting in. Oh, Jesus

59:35

Christ. We're actually pretty close. Throwing

59:37

pickles at criminal What the f-

59:39

That's it! One of our freelises

59:41

was an older woman named Barbara

59:44

Shurzer. Uh-huh. She was a sweet

59:46

little woman and she'd worked for

59:48

a variety for years and stuff

59:50

and she would write little, you

59:52

know, entertainment pieces for us. And

59:54

she took a muscle car with

59:56

teatops. Well, that's the thing. She

59:58

was a little skinny old woman.

1:00:00

And my editor just thought the

1:00:02

name was so ridiculous. And so

1:00:04

whenever there was like a list

1:00:06

of, you know, some band, you

1:00:08

know, something with like 20 bands,

1:00:10

30 bands playing, he would always

1:00:12

slip Shurzer into the middle of

1:00:14

it. Shurzer! Okay. Yeah. As

1:00:16

far as fake bands go, Shurz

1:00:18

is one of my favorites. Shurz

1:00:20

is one of my favorites. Shurz

1:00:22

is one of the most. I

1:00:25

like Laser Wolf. Well, it's playing

1:00:27

this weekend. Who won't play to

1:00:29

him? Laser Wolf. I think Shurz

1:00:31

are probably open. Shurz are all

1:00:33

open for laser. L-A-Z-E-R. It's definitely

1:00:35

a Z. Yeah. What do I

1:00:37

think around you people. Yep, that's

1:00:39

pretty damn geeky. That is the

1:00:41

worst. What do you mean you

1:00:43

people? I mean you people. We

1:00:46

played board games with other people

1:00:48

too. We played, with Maple Leaf,

1:00:50

we played. What did you play?

1:00:52

You don't even know? Yeah, no,

1:00:54

we don't know. We played DC

1:00:56

deck building. We played some... Big

1:00:58

surprise! We played some... Oh, well,

1:01:00

Andy had to go on a

1:01:02

search for a replacement for architects.

1:01:04

Oh, why did you have to

1:01:07

do that? I dropped a card

1:01:09

and the dog ate it immediately.

1:01:11

Yeah. He was he was Andy

1:01:13

so he was shuffling and a

1:01:15

card hit the floor. Actually two

1:01:17

cards hit the floor. I grabbed

1:01:19

one. You saved one and holy

1:01:21

mackerel. Meg wasted not a breath.

1:01:23

She got on the other and

1:01:25

just instantly started demolishing it. It

1:01:28

was a maze balls. And so

1:01:30

Andy felt bad and being Andy,

1:01:32

he searched the internet, bought a

1:01:34

copy of Ark. Seven wonders architects

1:01:36

and just to replace that one

1:01:38

card. Have you played the expansion?

1:01:40

No. It's very good. There's an

1:01:42

expansion. It's a small expansion. Oh

1:01:44

God, I hope this card was

1:01:46

the expansion. I've been looked. We

1:01:49

also, actually, we also played the

1:01:51

gift that I got Rum Cake

1:01:53

to go with their five minute

1:01:55

dungeon game. There's a five minute

1:01:57

dungeon expansion. And so we played

1:01:59

that, which was actually cool, because

1:02:01

they throw in curses, which actually

1:02:03

fuck with the game and make

1:02:05

things tough. That's interesting. Yeah, so

1:02:07

that was fun. I also picked

1:02:10

up a game as a target

1:02:12

exclusive. It's a kid's game, but

1:02:14

it was fun. It's called Tippy

1:02:16

Dragon. Tippy Dragon. It sounds like

1:02:18

something you'll be getting in about

1:02:20

three years, Barry. I'm sure. But

1:02:22

it's a plastic dragon that sort

1:02:24

of balances. It's got... Fishing line

1:02:26

stuff so it does that we're

1:02:28

this mouse trap kind of it's

1:02:31

more it's more of the game

1:02:33

they gave me the don't break

1:02:35

the back dragon's back you're stacking

1:02:37

shit on this dragon trying to

1:02:39

not knock it over but it's

1:02:41

it's a dumb little fun game

1:02:43

Okay, that's cool. It's targeted closes,

1:02:45

so it reminds me I will

1:02:47

be at Meepleville board games on

1:02:49

January 25th and Saturday around noon

1:02:52

for the flea market Where a

1:02:54

lot of Andy's games will be

1:02:56

on sale I look forward to

1:02:58

hearing out goes So bring a

1:03:00

roll of ones and get ready

1:03:02

to splurge folks. Yeah, just make

1:03:04

it rain. You take the whole

1:03:06

fucking table My goal

1:03:08

is not to make money. You're

1:03:11

bringing that big one, right? I'm

1:03:13

bringing all of it. Yeah, all

1:03:15

of it. And I'm gonna have

1:03:18

what the retail is on this

1:03:20

game if you wanted to buy

1:03:22

it new. My price, which is

1:03:25

gonna be like crazy Eddie dirt

1:03:27

cheap. And then there's gonna be

1:03:29

the buy the entire table so

1:03:32

I can leave price. Look forward

1:03:34

to hearing the report. Yes, I

1:03:36

can't wait. The only other thing

1:03:39

I really did was I continue

1:03:41

my watch, my rewatch, actually for

1:03:43

most of it, my first watch,

1:03:46

of Enterprise. I hate this fucking

1:03:48

show. Wow! But I commit it

1:03:50

to it. I'm, I'm, uh, season

1:03:53

two episode... uh... nineteen in and

1:03:55

uh... i i hate the writing

1:03:57

the acting yeah acting solid uh...

1:04:00

it's scop acula come on you

1:04:02

can't go wrong jolly blalock decent

1:04:04

vote There's only so much you

1:04:07

can do there. She shows just

1:04:09

enough emotion I like trip Tucker,

1:04:11

you know, I like I like

1:04:14

that the actors who are playing

1:04:16

them. Yeah, the writings Hucks Okay,

1:04:18

so here's what I'll here's what

1:04:21

I'll say about interpractice I'm also

1:04:23

doing a rewatch because Goldie and

1:04:25

I decided we're gonna How far

1:04:28

are you in? I'm still in

1:04:30

season one. Okay. I'm like six

1:04:32

episodes in I think I just

1:04:35

watched the Tucker gets pregnant with

1:04:37

an alien kid. Where's my phone?

1:04:39

I need a picture of Barry.

1:04:41

There's so many strokes. I don't

1:04:44

think I've ever seen a whole

1:04:46

episode of Enterprise. I'm gathering its

1:04:48

essentials in all Neelix cast. No,

1:04:51

no. No, no. No, actually the

1:04:53

Flocks is great. Yeah, the potential

1:04:55

Neelix character, Dr. Flocks, John Billingsley,

1:04:58

saves that part, saves that role.

1:05:00

Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. And yeah,

1:05:02

I would agree. And here's the

1:05:05

thing, if you power through season

1:05:07

two. And get to like the

1:05:09

Zindy or whatever. Get to the

1:05:12

Zindy, which bugs the crap out.

1:05:14

Me and Matt have the same

1:05:16

issue with it. It's like, oh

1:05:19

God, you guys purposely set this.

1:05:21

About five or six years before

1:05:23

the Earth Romulan War. and you're

1:05:26

introducing a new alien race as

1:05:28

opposed to laying the groundwork for

1:05:30

that and they even showed the

1:05:33

wrong like they had the Romulins

1:05:35

in an episode yeah yeah and

1:05:37

instead they they and I understand

1:05:40

why that you know sci-fi is

1:05:42

always great at being a metaphor

1:05:44

and so they're doing their 9-11

1:05:47

story oh it's like every episode

1:05:49

in season 1 and 2 It

1:05:51

has that, like, here's a little

1:05:54

twist on something that's... relevant you

1:05:56

know yeah and it's just it's

1:05:58

formulaic oh well in hamfisted my

1:06:01

my favorite quote-unquote scene was archers

1:06:03

having to deal with this alien

1:06:05

race and he and I I

1:06:08

forget if it's Tucker or who

1:06:10

else they're talking about the moral

1:06:12

implications of should we give them

1:06:15

the advanced technology should we do

1:06:17

this like pre-prime directive yeah yeah

1:06:19

oh and and the well what

1:06:22

did you don't get excited it

1:06:24

that could have been awesome but

1:06:26

then archer has this line of

1:06:29

you know until star fleet gives

1:06:31

me some sort of prime directive

1:06:33

I'm just like fuck you right

1:06:36

it's just Jesus that is Just

1:06:38

ham- Oh, I love the part,

1:06:40

later episodes where, uh, what's his

1:06:43

name, Malcolm is trying to figure

1:06:45

out some type of tactical alert.

1:06:47

Should we call it a read

1:06:50

alert? No, that's a little, that's

1:06:52

a little, that's a little too

1:06:54

much, that's a little logistical. Perhaps

1:06:57

a tactic, hmm, hmm, hmm, and

1:06:59

they're trying to get to work

1:07:01

a red alert. Yeah, goofy. Well,

1:07:04

yeah, they, they, they really, I

1:07:06

think they missed the boat, they

1:07:08

missed the boat, because they missed

1:07:11

the boat, They did that weird

1:07:13

thing where they're trying to distance

1:07:15

themselves from Star Trek, but they're

1:07:18

actually taking the most iconic thing

1:07:20

from Star Trek and making the

1:07:22

whole series about it. Enterprise. And

1:07:25

it's just like, and it's like,

1:07:27

you guys, I think they hinted

1:07:29

at Earth Romulan War, leads to

1:07:32

the creation of the Federation, which

1:07:34

I think is a brilliant idea.

1:07:36

it's not canon it wasn't like

1:07:39

it was part of star trek

1:07:41

beforehand so i think it's actually

1:07:43

pretty good idea and they get

1:07:45

got bogged down trying to create

1:07:48

new aliens and they try to

1:07:50

create new aliens well and then

1:07:52

they go back and they bring

1:07:55

in for rangy they know hold

1:07:57

on hold on Borg the forangy

1:07:59

we're part of season one I

1:08:02

think it was? Yeah, the forangy,

1:08:04

like, they don't even mention them

1:08:06

by name, but they bring them

1:08:09

in, they're obvious for rangy. Yeah.

1:08:11

And they act just like, like,

1:08:13

they act goofy. Like the goofy

1:08:16

forangy. They weren't the cool, sneed

1:08:18

forangy. Yeah, no, no. I actually

1:08:20

did not mind that too much,

1:08:23

but I was still like... Why

1:08:25

are you guys doing this? There's

1:08:27

not supposed to meeting Ferengi until

1:08:30

later, so why are you doing

1:08:32

this now? And it was just

1:08:34

like, do the Earth Romulan War?

1:08:37

Another thing, Andorians, Volkins, are fighting.

1:08:39

So forging a piece that Earth

1:08:41

is responsible for mediating, all of

1:08:44

that is a magnificent tableau to

1:08:46

creating the Federation. And instead they

1:08:48

got caught up in Zindie and

1:08:51

the Sulebonne. The Time Cold War.

1:08:53

Yeah, and it was just like,

1:08:55

oh guys, guys, you actually, you

1:08:58

have it all at your fingertips.

1:09:00

Writing aside, did they not have

1:09:02

enough money to do this thing?

1:09:05

Did they, were they budget limited?

1:09:07

Because there are, first off, two

1:09:09

things, there are scenes where I

1:09:12

see, okay, I'll fire a torpedo,

1:09:14

show me the fucking torpedo, okay,

1:09:16

to hit, we knocked out their

1:09:19

engines. Clearly they could have. Showed

1:09:21

us that but it's like I'm

1:09:23

just gonna save a ton of

1:09:26

money. Yeah, it okay. So Both

1:09:28

Voyager and Enterprise suffered from being

1:09:30

on UPN And does that explain

1:09:33

the makeup as well because I

1:09:35

never liked Michael Westmore Okay, I

1:09:37

never liked what he did because

1:09:40

it was always just due with

1:09:42

some ridges on his head All

1:09:44

the aliens look the same. They're

1:09:47

just dude with a few ridges

1:09:49

on their head. Dude

1:09:51

with some spots,

1:09:54

dude with some

1:09:56

spots and ridges

1:09:58

if someone was

1:10:01

feeling and that day.

1:10:03

hang on, that

1:10:05

was, feeling I

1:10:07

mean. day. Hang on, that you

1:10:09

look at the early you look

1:10:11

at the early before they get

1:10:14

to makeups they actually had more

1:10:16

stuff they on. had ridges

1:10:18

on their foreheads. Yeah. As

1:10:20

well as They on their nose.

1:10:22

had some shit going on.

1:10:24

Yeah, as well as ridges on their nose. Yeah,

1:10:26

and then and then... Not

1:10:29

Michaelizinger Westmore. No, not Westmore Michael Myers, Rick

1:10:31

Berman Was like like, we've

1:10:33

hired of visitors. She's pretty.

1:10:35

Why are we covering

1:10:37

up her face with

1:10:39

all this stuff? her face

1:10:41

with all this stuff? she's pretty.

1:10:43

Yeah, no, she's cute And so that

1:10:46

was their was their thing. why know,

1:10:48

why we we covering up all

1:10:50

of our pretty women with women with this? with

1:10:52

and stuff like that. And

1:10:54

it's like, and they're aliens. because they're

1:10:57

aliens so yeah so there there were creative

1:10:59

decisions made by the people

1:11:01

in charge people in charge that you

1:11:03

know You know, and frankly, once they got

1:11:05

the to both both and

1:11:08

Brandon bran braga i just just

1:11:10

think we're out of ideas. and instead

1:11:12

and instead of clear instead of like like

1:11:14

Kerson said, instead of playing into

1:11:16

the positives of where it's sort

1:11:19

it's sort of the Voyager problem.

1:11:21

Voyager gave up on its

1:11:23

premise its through the first season. through

1:11:25

the first which was, was We have a

1:11:28

Starfleet crew and a Maquis crew. How

1:11:30

are they gonna are they going to together to

1:11:32

get back home? Everyone

1:11:34

just starts acting like

1:11:36

Starfleet after six episodes.

1:11:38

like Star Fleet after six episodes. No, Battle

1:11:40

Star the Battlestar Galactica

1:11:42

thing, ship, and the ship

1:11:44

doesn't fall apart. Galactic

1:11:46

it's the It's like. fall

1:11:49

your premise. Play it's like, here's

1:11:51

your premise, play want it. Yeah. So

1:11:53

you want us, okay. There is an

1:11:55

episode in in season two. I think

1:11:58

you should all watch just enter

1:12:00

Yeah, it's a prize. Just

1:12:02

so that you can

1:12:04

see the worst acting

1:12:06

I think I've ever

1:12:08

seen in my life.

1:12:10

And I've watched Madam

1:12:12

Whip. Wow. Precious Cargo.

1:12:14

Season 2, episode 11.

1:12:16

There's a princess played

1:12:18

by Padma Lachmi, whatever

1:12:20

the fuck her name

1:12:22

is. Really pretty woman.

1:12:24

She like hosted Top

1:12:26

Chef or something like

1:12:28

that. Holy crap. terrible

1:12:31

actor I encourage you to watch

1:12:33

any of her scene just just

1:12:35

pick out any of them all

1:12:38

bad oh boy I I'm not

1:12:40

picking on her in particular but

1:12:43

this this is a point I

1:12:45

can't help it I'm sorry yeah

1:12:47

this is a point that I've

1:12:50

that I've made even in my

1:12:52

acting classes because because students will

1:12:55

ask you know they'll ask about

1:12:57

the casting couch and all this

1:12:59

type of stuff and I go

1:13:02

yeah it you know you want

1:13:04

to have a chaperone if you're

1:13:07

anywhere near Harvey Weinstein sure I

1:13:09

said I said and don't drop

1:13:11

the soap you know and I

1:13:14

said if you look back at

1:13:16

60s and 70s television one thing

1:13:19

that you will that you will

1:13:21

notice if you watch a lot

1:13:23

of it is most of the

1:13:26

male guest stars pretty good actors

1:13:28

about half the female guest stars

1:13:31

They're pretty. The end. They must

1:13:33

give great blow jobs. Wow. Well,

1:13:35

let's, I mean, let's not, let's

1:13:38

not go there for Padme. I

1:13:40

mean, we don't. Right. That's what

1:13:43

I'm saying. I'm not. She's just

1:13:45

terrible. You know, well, and some

1:13:47

of their decisions. I was surprised

1:13:50

when I think it was. Harry

1:13:52

Kem. Listen. When he was talking

1:13:55

about. There was something came up

1:13:57

about the acting and he actually

1:13:59

said well for us playing humans

1:14:02

we were actually told to keep

1:14:04

things kind of flat so that

1:14:07

we don't like overshadow the alien

1:14:09

characters which was a very confusing

1:14:11

and I don't quite understand thing

1:14:14

but at the same time when

1:14:16

I look at a lot of

1:14:19

Star Trek of that error shit

1:14:21

load of stuff makes sense if

1:14:23

that's actually it and I think

1:14:26

there was some Direct there might

1:14:28

have been there's a lot of

1:14:31

times when a director can actually

1:14:33

just destroy an actor's performance and

1:14:35

there might have been specific Christians

1:14:38

in choice, you know episodes. Yeah

1:14:40

one two and three yeah or

1:14:42

two and three or uh, uh,

1:14:45

shit. What's her name in House

1:14:47

of Cards? House of Games Remember

1:14:50

House of Games from the 80s?

1:14:52

No, no. She was she was

1:14:54

David Mamet's wife. Oh Lindsay And

1:14:57

this and this is a movie

1:14:59

and Joe Montagna. It's a it's

1:15:02

a con movie and stuff and

1:15:04

he directed her to play a

1:15:06

very specific incredibly artificial style That

1:15:09

was universally panned and it was

1:15:11

put all on her shoulders and

1:15:14

it actually hurt her career so

1:15:16

so so and i think i

1:15:18

think i think maybe that's what

1:15:21

happened with he christen so yeah

1:15:23

well that's obviously what happens so

1:15:26

well that and just i mean

1:15:28

you know love george lucas for

1:15:30

what he gave us but uh...

1:15:33

the entire the level of screen

1:15:35

writing he was shooting for in

1:15:38

attack of the clones and uh...

1:15:40

revenge of the sith Anyway,

1:15:43

um... Enterprise also suffers from the

1:15:45

fact that they have like 26

1:15:47

episodes. Yeah. They gotta fill that.

1:15:49

And they'll take, there's the dumbest

1:15:51

thing, like, oh no, there's an

1:15:53

episode where, uh, vanishing point, uh,

1:15:56

season two episode 10. He's got

1:15:58

notes that he's reading from here.

1:16:00

Just in let you know the

1:16:02

depth of his anger. Oh yeah,

1:16:04

when I like something, it's like,

1:16:06

no, that's good. I don't like

1:16:08

something. Oh, I'm gonna tell you.

1:16:10

I'm gonna write notes. He hasn't

1:16:12

gone all rain, man. He's got

1:16:14

notes. Yeah. There's this episode where

1:16:16

Hoshi goes, the transporter for the

1:16:18

first time. She's real trepidation about

1:16:21

the transporter because it's a transporter

1:16:23

you should be. It's a death

1:16:25

machine. It's a death machine. You

1:16:27

don't even. So she beams back

1:16:29

and then she's like, she feels

1:16:31

like there's something wrong and then

1:16:33

she starts vanishing and phasing through

1:16:35

stuff and no one could find

1:16:37

her. And there's some aliens and

1:16:39

they're gonna blow stuff up. Oh,

1:16:41

and then poof! She's back. Oh

1:16:44

no, you were only gone for

1:16:46

like eight seconds. You were stuck

1:16:48

in the pattern buffer. Something's weird.

1:16:50

Are you okay? No, it was

1:16:52

all in my head. And that's

1:16:54

the episode. It was all a

1:16:56

dream. It was all a dream.

1:16:58

It was all a patterned buffer

1:17:00

dream. It was all a waste

1:17:02

of a god damn hour. Well,

1:17:04

now it's really funny because you

1:17:07

have one of the most popular

1:17:09

T&G episodes is Picard learns how

1:17:11

to play a flute. And that's

1:17:13

essentially it was an all-dream episode.

1:17:15

That's different. That's different. Yeah. admitted

1:17:17

look this is a dream we

1:17:19

created for you so that you

1:17:21

could understand our culture and we

1:17:23

give you this flute and everything

1:17:25

and it stayed with him right

1:17:27

it affected him that's a whole

1:17:29

thing he lived the life then

1:17:32

there was just oh nothing really

1:17:34

happened it's just a dream oh

1:17:36

brian who was sentenced for a

1:17:38

crime to live out his whole

1:17:40

life in his head oh no

1:17:42

that was that was a good

1:17:44

episode yeah I saw I'm saying

1:17:46

you can pull it off you

1:17:48

can that doesn't do yeah well

1:17:50

you know towards the end as

1:17:52

Manny Cotto starts to start and

1:17:55

and do the the fourth the

1:17:57

four season is like this is

1:17:59

one this show should have always

1:18:01

been mirror darkly oh Magnificent fucking

1:18:03

at two-parter I'm gonna get I'm

1:18:05

gonna get I'm gonna get to

1:18:07

that I'm gonna get to the

1:18:09

end of Enterprise and I know

1:18:11

how it ends and I don't

1:18:13

like that at all no but

1:18:15

Whatever I'm gonna give it a

1:18:17

fair shake and I the fact

1:18:20

that I got to sit through

1:18:22

two seasons of shit and by

1:18:24

a season. I mean 26 episodes.

1:18:26

Yeah, that's that's yeah, this is

1:18:28

a how many seasons are there

1:18:30

four four seasons. Yeah, I've I

1:18:32

miss a lot of Star Trek

1:18:34

and so for some point I'll

1:18:36

have to do a watch rewatch

1:18:38

everything to make sure I caught

1:18:40

everything. Just get lower decks. You're

1:18:43

fine. Dude, lower decks. I tell

1:18:45

you what I like the best

1:18:47

about lower decks. I don't have

1:18:49

to wait till the second season

1:18:51

for them to find their legs.

1:18:53

They hit the ground running. Yep.

1:18:55

And it is. It's funny too

1:18:57

when you think that. the original

1:18:59

series had had actually had five

1:19:01

or seven solid years yeah and

1:19:03

and that's it yeah they created

1:19:05

a phenomenon and then watching the

1:19:08

other series sometimes take almost three

1:19:10

seasons just to find themselves yeah

1:19:12

so you it makes you like

1:19:14

what what could have been if

1:19:16

the original series had had actually

1:19:18

had five or seven solid years

1:19:20

yeah well the writers and I

1:19:22

blame like the show runners for

1:19:24

that series and that era lasted

1:19:26

more than a couple seasons. I

1:19:28

mean three was impressive. Fantastic voyage?

1:19:31

I love that but you know

1:19:33

I was a kid and you

1:19:35

know. Fantastic voyage. That's a 70s

1:19:37

era. Well if Star Trek the

1:19:39

next generation were not based on

1:19:41

a previous show if it were

1:19:43

just on its own it would

1:19:45

never survive the first season. Maybe

1:19:47

I'm the second. I'm totally with

1:19:49

you there. Yeah, well, it's really

1:19:51

funny when I hear the the

1:19:53

the New Trek haters and they

1:19:56

just go on about something and

1:19:58

they're like that's not that you

1:20:00

see I just watch that's not

1:20:02

my track that's not my Star

1:20:04

Trek and I always say yeah

1:20:06

that's what I said in 87

1:20:08

when I started watching T&G and

1:20:10

the looks they yeah yeah because

1:20:12

I respect T&G I respect what

1:20:14

they did yeah because TOS got

1:20:16

it started but I do think

1:20:19

the legacy Trek has now is

1:20:21

actually majority T&G. There's plenty of

1:20:23

goodness in the the the TOS

1:20:25

films, but I think T&G picked

1:20:27

up the torch and ran the

1:20:29

continent with it and really really

1:20:31

did something for the franchise so

1:20:33

i will always give it that

1:20:35

respect yeah but it it it

1:20:37

really is i like dia's nine

1:20:39

more i like strange new worlds

1:20:42

more lower decks i actually put

1:20:44

in another category even though i

1:20:46

like that one more so you

1:20:48

know you do new tracks new

1:20:50

shows like that right away and

1:20:52

they have to hit hard Because

1:20:54

they don't have enough, see, they

1:20:56

don't have enough episodes. Yeah. And

1:20:58

there's so much competition. Yeah. So

1:21:00

now, Trek had no all of

1:21:02

our, no, listeners are stupidly drunk

1:21:04

from every time they mention Star

1:21:07

Trek. No, no, you only drink

1:21:09

when we talk about Star Trek,

1:21:11

the experience takes a lot. Have

1:21:13

a drink. Yeah. Yeah. We're not

1:21:15

talking about that. We're just talking

1:21:17

about Trek in general. Yeah. Yeah.

1:21:19

So I have many more episodes

1:21:21

to go and I've got a

1:21:23

lot more episodes to go and

1:21:25

I got a lot more hate.

1:21:27

And I'll spew it as I

1:21:30

get it. I'll get there. As

1:21:32

big a fan as I am

1:21:34

of NextGen, every time people talk

1:21:36

about worst episode of Star Trek

1:21:38

ever, they almost always mention the

1:21:40

Enterprise finale. And I'm like, no.

1:21:42

No, as problematic as that thing

1:21:44

is, it doesn't hold a candle

1:21:46

to Shades of Grey. No, the

1:21:48

problem with Enterprise, well, we'll get

1:21:50

there in a second. Enterprise's finale

1:21:52

was bad because they tried to

1:21:55

wrap up everything really quickly. and

1:21:57

no one got the credit they'd

1:21:59

no one got the the well

1:22:01

they made it on the reserve

1:22:03

they made it in the next

1:22:05

gen episode yeah which okay i

1:22:07

get some more next gen but

1:22:09

but shades of gray was a

1:22:11

clip show that's bullshit yeah and

1:22:13

not even a good one it

1:22:15

wasn't even i was like if

1:22:18

you're gonna do a car rather

1:22:20

than this horse yet if you

1:22:22

need to do a clip show

1:22:24

then just Have the crew sitting

1:22:26

around 10 forward going remember that

1:22:28

time when blah blah blah do

1:22:30

that that would have been much

1:22:32

better than shades of gray It

1:22:34

would suffered from being in the

1:22:36

80s and how they did TV

1:22:38

back then another thing about me

1:22:40

every time well and also there's

1:22:43

a writer strike too so yeah

1:22:45

after after a scene there'll be

1:22:47

like this note they'll play these

1:22:49

few notes of drama and then

1:22:51

someone will wistfully look out the

1:22:53

window or something like that what

1:22:55

is that? That's not how people

1:22:57

are. Well, have you ever, okay,

1:22:59

so speaking of tropes and sci-fi

1:23:01

shows that just curdle your, your

1:23:03

stuff, yeah. Who hears watch Babylon

1:23:06

Five? I have. Okay. Not religiously,

1:23:08

but I have. But, okay, if

1:23:10

you've seen any number of episodes,

1:23:12

you've seen this. Two people are

1:23:14

having a conversation. One of the

1:23:16

people leaves the scene. The other

1:23:18

person says, stands there and says

1:23:20

something quippy, that they could have

1:23:22

actually said to the person that

1:23:24

just left. And they're saying it

1:23:26

to no one. I'm like, what

1:23:29

the fuck is this? You could

1:23:31

have, that could have been the

1:23:33

end of the conversation cut to

1:23:35

the next scene. Trek up through

1:23:37

Enterprise, I think, suffered from, they

1:23:39

were super strict. You do not

1:23:41

improvise, we do not take any

1:23:43

direction from the actors whatsoever, it's

1:23:45

just you read what's on the

1:23:47

script. Right? Yeah. That's a problem.

1:23:49

That's not a problem. Sometimes it's

1:23:51

a problem and they suffered for

1:23:54

it because... Because you

1:23:56

could tell, these

1:23:58

characters are not

1:24:00

acting fluidly. They're

1:24:02

not they're not would,

1:24:04

if you would

1:24:06

them to. allow them to the

1:24:08

space a little bit. a little bit see

1:24:10

a little a little more natural sometimes if the are

1:24:12

good are good room for it. I know

1:24:14

for a fact I of your favorite shows

1:24:16

is of your favorite shows This is true.

1:24:19

Wing improvisation at all. That's because

1:24:21

the writing was amazing. the writing was amazing well

1:24:23

yeah on. Well, come on well and this So

1:24:25

this is the thing. is the thing

1:24:28

Back in enterprise days. So

1:24:30

voyagers ending and people are people

1:24:33

are talking about what's

1:24:35

the next series. next this

1:24:37

is and this on conversations on

1:24:39

the trek BBS Remember BBS is was

1:24:42

saying I Trek needs

1:24:44

to stop competing

1:24:46

with itself. competing start competing

1:24:48

with shows like The

1:24:50

West Wing shows like the West Wing

1:24:52

and all of these

1:24:54

other top top-notch dramatic television

1:24:56

shows. It needs to stop.

1:24:58

to stop selling short. short

1:25:01

and I and I was saying the

1:25:03

saying, the writing needs to

1:25:05

be at the level

1:25:07

of those shows. not well you know

1:25:09

at least we're better than our

1:25:12

first season least we're better than

1:25:14

our first season. like, that's

1:25:16

not the bar you aim

1:25:18

for. The bar you aim

1:25:20

for is West Wing The bar bar

1:25:22

you aim for, I mean I mean,

1:25:24

course course in the intervening couple

1:25:27

of decades, the bar you

1:25:29

aim for is Breaking Bad,

1:25:31

is bad is better call Saul is Was Was

1:25:33

it executives first few seasons of

1:25:35

game Thrones. What it it executives? executives

1:25:37

disdain for sci -fi? Well, I

1:25:39

think sci-fi? Well, I think just it's approach

1:25:41

just an approach you don't

1:25:43

think don't think or better

1:25:46

call Saul you know,

1:25:48

breaking bad level writing you

1:25:50

think think fiction That

1:25:52

really didn't come into

1:25:54

play until like

1:25:56

Babylon until like Babylon 5 and there

1:25:58

know know or the modern Galactico

1:26:00

which a lot of people love

1:26:03

and there you you really it

1:26:05

I think a lot of it

1:26:08

is due to a singular vision

1:26:10

yeah which is the other thing

1:26:12

like like the original series singular

1:26:15

vision yeah it's also a shift

1:26:17

from episodic TV to serialize serialized

1:26:20

which DS9 actually kind of pioneered

1:26:22

yeah It was one of the

1:26:24

first, it was certainly the first

1:26:27

non-cable show to do that kind

1:26:29

of storytelling. They really just did

1:26:32

not do that on network TV.

1:26:34

Yeah. So the question earlier about

1:26:36

the fire being closed to Hollywood?

1:26:39

The Magic Castle is being evacuated.

1:26:41

Oh no! It's close to Hollywood.

1:26:44

Oh man! Yeah, that is Hollywood.

1:26:46

Oh no. Wow. Yeah, you got

1:26:48

anything for us there? I've got

1:26:51

news you don't give a shit

1:26:53

about! I don't even know what

1:26:56

that was. That was, that was,

1:26:58

oh no, and then it turned

1:27:00

it through, oh yeah, I think

1:27:03

this part can. Yeah, Death Gasm.

1:27:05

Death Gasm. Another great band. Instead

1:27:08

of Steve's oh face, we'll get

1:27:10

Steve's Death Gasm. I'm not putting

1:27:12

that on the shirt. Army Hammer

1:27:15

is playing a... Cannibal? A vigilante

1:27:17

in a film called The Dark

1:27:20

Knight. What? Wait, what? This from

1:27:22

Variety. Army Hammer is taking the

1:27:24

role of the Dark Knight. Not

1:27:27

the Dark Knight, but he's playing

1:27:29

some other vigilante character who is

1:27:32

not Batman. in a film literally

1:27:34

called The Dark Knight. Does he

1:27:36

have a word called The Sparrow?

1:27:39

As Variety reports, the Dark Knight

1:27:41

film starring Hammer is being directed

1:27:44

by... Who? Michael Bay. Ooey Bull.

1:27:46

There you go! Are you kidding

1:27:48

me? Are you kidding? Yes! That's

1:27:51

what I wanted, folks! How's it?

1:27:53

Yes! That's what I wanted, folks!

1:27:56

How- What- What planet am I

1:27:58

on? It will- Directed by Oui-Bole,

1:28:00

and will indeed be a visual

1:28:03

anti-crime thriller that will start filming

1:28:05

in Croatia. Of course it will!

1:28:08

At the end of January! Holy

1:28:10

shit! Props to you. No! Surely

1:28:12

DC has trademarked the dark night.

1:28:15

Uh, you, uh, don't underestimate oovea

1:28:17

bowl. Better ask forgiveness than permission?

1:28:19

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean,

1:28:22

yeah, it'll probably change. Yeah, probably

1:28:24

change by the time. But, you

1:28:27

know, hey. Let's see I'm trying

1:28:29

to figure out if there darkness.

1:28:31

Yeah Oh my god. Yeah, and

1:28:34

it's K-N-I-G-H-T-A- The murdering quip. Yeah.

1:28:36

Yeah. So that was that I

1:28:39

read that and it was really

1:28:41

funny because I'm reading it because

1:28:43

of hammer. Yeah. And then I

1:28:46

hit that fucking oovid bowl. thing

1:28:48

and I was just and this

1:28:51

is variety this was the nerdest

1:28:53

reporting on what variety reported so

1:28:55

there's there's there's a little meat

1:28:58

on that bone you know I

1:29:00

don't know how much exactly but

1:29:03

so now we can get into

1:29:05

weekend gay all right so Steve

1:29:07

yeah let's hear it star man

1:29:10

a star man Jesus Christ Superman

1:29:12

trailer Are you happy about the

1:29:15

Superman trailer? I loved it. Were

1:29:17

you happy about the teaser for

1:29:19

the teaser trailer? That was just

1:29:22

dumb. So far have we have

1:29:24

we seen the trailer I think

1:29:27

we've only seen the teaser trailer

1:29:29

well no there was a teaser

1:29:31

teaser trailer and then the teaser

1:29:34

trailer yeah yeah that's all we've

1:29:36

seen we haven't actually seen the

1:29:39

trail except the teaser trailer was

1:29:41

a trailer yeah it was it

1:29:43

was it had a lot of

1:29:46

stuff in it yeah a lot

1:29:48

of stuff in you you got

1:29:51

to see Nathan Philean use the

1:29:53

ring and the bowl you see

1:29:55

Superman uh... sad over a robot

1:29:58

yeah to see a dog oh

1:30:00

yeah crypto yes and some somebody

1:30:03

pointed out that in the reflection

1:30:05

on the robot's helmet is maybe

1:30:07

a glimpse of Supergirl but it's

1:30:10

kind of a stretch yeah someone

1:30:12

said they also saw Angela Angela

1:30:15

Speaker who yes engineer yeah yeah

1:30:17

yeah on climbing on climbing on

1:30:19

the flexcore Gabriella dipharia as Angela's

1:30:22

area as Angela's Speaker A. K.

1:30:24

A. The engineer. Yeah. Skyler Gissondo

1:30:27

as is it Jimmy Olson? Rachel

1:30:29

Brassen. Oh, she's gonna be Eddie.

1:30:31

I guess it's pronounced Eddie Gathagi.

1:30:34

Oh, yeah, as Mr. Terrific. Yep.

1:30:36

Isabella Merced as Hock girl. Nicholas

1:30:39

Holt. Oh, yes, Lex Luther. So

1:30:41

I am looking forward to there.

1:30:43

There's a lot of people going,

1:30:46

he didn't have he didn't have

1:30:48

the gravitas. I'm like, you know,

1:30:51

he's good. He's good. I think

1:30:53

he can, I think he's, you

1:30:55

know, he was hitting it in

1:30:58

Nasparatu. Sure was. And, uh, he

1:31:00

was great in, oh, the great.

1:31:02

Yeah. The one about, uh, Catherine,

1:31:05

the great. And I think, and

1:31:07

I think one of the things

1:31:10

that a lot of people maybe

1:31:12

selling him short for, he's short

1:31:14

for, he did so well in,

1:31:17

Fury Road. Fury Road. Fury Road.

1:31:19

Fury Road. Fury Road. Fury Road.

1:31:22

Fury Road. Fury Road. Fury Road.

1:31:24

He was nucks. And he was

1:31:26

the zombie in that one movie

1:31:29

with the zombie. And he was

1:31:31

Renfield. Yeah, right, Renfield. No, he's...

1:31:34

Yeah, just again what you saw

1:31:36

in the trailer. It was like

1:31:38

yeah, this guy's he's going to

1:31:41

be the I'm Okay, so String

1:31:43

together some words. Yeah. I know

1:31:46

I know this is how I

1:31:48

process If you're not okay two

1:31:50

things if you're not up on

1:31:53

current DC Has evolved over the

1:31:55

years not not bad about being

1:31:58

bald anymore Yeah Who knows how

1:32:00

they're gonna you know what is

1:32:02

what the origin of his baldness

1:32:05

is in this but you know

1:32:07

whatever? He is he he's a

1:32:10

guy with an ego words He's

1:32:12

a guy with an ego words.

1:32:14

He's a guy with an ego

1:32:17

words He's a guy with an

1:32:19

ego He thinks he's, you know,

1:32:22

he thinks he's the king of

1:32:24

metropolis, if not America, and here's

1:32:26

this alien coming to take that

1:32:29

job from him. Yeah. And... H-B-1.

1:32:31

Yeah, he is, yeah, he is,

1:32:34

he is, his hero story is

1:32:36

he saving the world from, from

1:32:38

alien incursions. He just needs to

1:32:41

build a wall and then or

1:32:43

really in space. Yeah, well, you

1:32:46

know what? I mean, it's really

1:32:48

funny. If you think about it,

1:32:50

let's think about it. Maybe Nicholas

1:32:53

Holtz, uh, Lex Luthor is Elon

1:32:55

Musk, if Superman really did exist.

1:32:58

Yeah. Just imagine how fucking pissed

1:33:00

that him or Donald Trump, both