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Hello, everyone, and welcome to

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another episode of Getting Hamm.

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I'm your host, Mary, Catherine

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Hamm. I am here with

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my co-host, Vic Mattis, of the

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Washington Free Beacon. We are

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your morning show for any hour.

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Moderately, right? Moderately, moderately reliable. Vic,

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we've got a lot to

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talk about. There's the men and

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women sports executive order, quite

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a quite a picture, quite an

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event there. We got the new

0:34

resistance democratic rallies against Elon

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Musk's quest to go through the federal

0:38

government with a fine tooth comb

0:40

and we have a cabinet update and we

0:42

might be taking over Gaza. So we're, there's

0:45

a lot or a lot as there is

0:47

every day of a Trump administration by design.

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So, but before we get to all that,

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how you doing, Vic? Hello Mary Catherine

0:53

doing fine. So my wife Kate has

0:55

been shopping for a new cereal lately

0:57

because you know sort of in the

0:59

spirit of RFK Jr. about you know

1:01

what's in the cereal a lot of

1:03

sugar and other things and how do

1:05

we get healthier really? She found one.

1:07

And mind you, I'm not a serial person

1:10

for, I used to love serial, but for

1:12

digestive reasons I don't do serial anymore,

1:14

unless it's something very basic. You remember

1:16

the Saturday Night Lives Get Colin Blow?

1:18

Yes. That's how I stay away from

1:21

that stuff. She found one called Grain

1:23

Berry. I don't know if you've heard

1:25

of Grain Berry. Are you? Are you a

1:27

cereal family? You have kids? I assume

1:29

they like cereal. So yes, we are

1:32

because I think we also come to

1:34

that in American society at some point.

1:36

Although I look at them eating cereal

1:38

and I'm like, this is a bad

1:40

idea. Because of the sugar, it tastes

1:42

too good. It's too good to be

1:45

true. Well, I love cold cereal.

1:47

And particularly when I'm pregnant, I just

1:49

like need to eat kicks from a

1:51

bowl with milk all day long. The

1:53

good news is kicks probably has very

1:56

little fiber or anything to worry about.

1:58

That's true. But yeah, it is just.

2:00

like a shot of sugar and

2:02

it's going to last you no

2:04

time throughout your day. Yes, no,

2:06

especially. I can't blame them for

2:08

liking it. No, and it's convenient

2:10

and it's very basic. Anybody can

2:12

make it, any child can make

2:14

it, right? So she gets this

2:16

one called Grainberry and it touts

2:18

something on the front it says

2:20

with Onix sorghum. Onix sorghum and

2:22

sorghum is a that's a that's

2:24

more of a natural sweetener I've

2:26

I've tasted sorghum on its own

2:28

actually paired with whiskey probably not

2:30

what they meant it to be

2:32

you know Woodford Reserve nevertheless this

2:34

is a type of brand onix

2:36

sorghum developed at Stanford University supposedly

2:38

good for people like me you're

2:40

on the lower to the blood

2:42

sugar levels and all sorts of

2:44

things like this but again considering

2:46

my experience with certain types of

2:48

cereal I guess we'll never know

2:51

I might It's not like I'm

2:53

going to do it right now

2:55

on the show and then pause

2:57

the show 10 minutes in like

2:59

I'll be back in 15 minutes.

3:01

I made some reference to something

3:03

like this that happened to me

3:05

years ago on the subbeacon and

3:07

a listener described it as like

3:09

a leaf flower without the back

3:11

cover on it just oh my

3:13

god oh my god so but

3:15

I will tell you it's just

3:17

serial my god you know something

3:19

about you know what I don't

3:21

need this stuff thank goodness I

3:23

should count my blessings that I'm

3:25

I'm very regular regular so I'll

3:27

tell you what serial, you know,

3:29

no, there was one that she

3:31

had. It was honey bunches of

3:33

oats, honey bunches, that's fine. I

3:35

can do that one. But Post

3:37

does one with almond cranberry, and

3:39

that was crazy. I love anything

3:41

with the, like, the dehydrated fruit

3:43

in it. Fruits, yes, has the

3:45

weird texture. Yes, true. I also,

3:47

surprised to everybody, I like grape

3:49

nuts. I think they're delicious. We

3:51

have had this discussion before Mary

3:53

Catherine and I you know what

3:55

I was looking for that in

3:58

the supermarket I couldn't have found

4:00

it but I go great news

4:02

for you I went to the

4:04

hardware store and found some gravel

4:06

mix. It's gravel. So I found

4:08

a substitute for you. I don't

4:10

know why. I like it. I

4:12

think it's a fabulous cereal. I

4:14

like cereal. What does it taste

4:16

like? It tastes like grape. No,

4:18

not at all. I don't know

4:20

why it's cold grape nuts. I

4:22

like cereals that are not that

4:24

sweet. But here's the thing. It

4:26

doesn't matter. They're still just sugar.

4:28

Okay. Even if they're not sweet.

4:30

Okay. Because I saw this in

4:32

the supermarket supermarket. Cr. Yes, so

4:34

it's CRU MBL crumble cereal. Can

4:36

you imagine that how big are

4:38

the bites? I mean, this is

4:40

like no, there's their miniature So

4:42

it's not like a giant here's

4:44

your cereal one cookie in a

4:46

bowl and you just chop it

4:48

up with your spoon I think

4:50

The caloric intake was not as

4:52

shocking as I expected, but I

4:54

think the sugar might be Oh,

4:56

I'm sure it's off the charts

4:58

it is crumble. I was like

5:00

I just felt when I saw

5:02

it in the supermarket in the

5:05

supermarket I thought to myself Haven't

5:07

we tried this before and it

5:09

was something called cookie crisp? That's

5:11

what I was trying to think

5:13

of. That cookie crisp was definitely

5:15

the category of things that my

5:17

parents never bought us. We had

5:19

everything. We tried it. My mother,

5:21

my mother, God bless her, even

5:23

like with our kids, you know,

5:25

and they would have lucky charms

5:27

and fruit loose. And I would

5:29

say this stuff is crazy. And

5:31

you know what she would say?

5:33

But look, it's fortified. It's fortified.

5:35

Yeah, there's all sorts of stuff

5:37

in it. vitamin C, yeah, pholic

5:39

acid, niacin, you need the niacin.

5:41

Okay, Mary Catherine, just give them

5:43

a five-hour energy to be done.

5:45

Okay, so right, how are you?

5:47

I am pretty good. Things are

5:49

cool at this house, although we

5:51

did have a bunch of delays

5:53

and cancellations because of the non-existent.

5:55

Because of the rain, snow, it

5:57

just rained. So we had all

5:59

four kids home this morning, which

6:01

was fun, and then they went

6:03

off to school later. But at

6:05

any rate, one of the things

6:07

I did today was I had

6:09

the babies for a play date

6:11

and then I put them down.

6:14

for a nap and Just when

6:16

you think it's safe to send

6:18

them into the nursery vic. Let

6:20

me tell you toddlers are Diabolical

6:22

diabolical so of course the whole

6:24

place is baby-proof because we're putting

6:26

two toddlers in there and we

6:28

let them play in there if

6:30

they're not sleeping. This is the

6:32

room with the bunk slide. Yes,

6:34

the slide no longer is in

6:36

there because that was part of

6:38

the baby proofing like hey that

6:40

wasn't going to go well so

6:42

we removed that. Everything's all like

6:44

blocked off from the top bunk

6:46

you know there's no small parts

6:48

in there that anybody can choke

6:50

on you know we're we're good

6:52

in there ever all the outlets

6:54

are covered it's more baby proof

6:56

than any room I've ever baby

6:58

proof because I've been pretty lax

7:00

about that over the years. These

7:02

two can not be trusted. Okay,

7:04

so everything's anchored to the wall

7:06

all the drawers are like the

7:08

whole thing on the inside You

7:10

can't open it. They were throwing

7:12

all the clothes all over the

7:14

place. So you think you're good

7:16

you think you're good Vic and

7:18

then you go in there when

7:21

they won't nap and You're my

7:23

husband and I walk in open

7:25

the door and we and the

7:27

sister older sister three says look

7:29

at this dad has taken the

7:31

garbage bag, the garbage bag, out

7:33

of the diaper pale, and is

7:35

throwing it over the head of

7:37

her brother. The bag or the

7:39

diapers and signage? Oh, wow. Who

7:41

knows where the diapers are, Vic,

7:43

that's the next problem. The immediate

7:45

problem is the quintessential suffocation risk.

7:47

that is occurring in front of

7:49

you, so you realize, oh, suffocation

7:51

risk, did you say? Yes, that's

7:53

like, no, they've turned it into

7:55

a super fun site. Yeah. Yeah,

7:57

okay. So, yeah, so the plastic

7:59

bag, we're like, oh God, there's

8:01

another thing in the room that

8:03

we can't have in the room

8:05

anymore. I have vague memories of

8:07

that bin. Is it the one

8:09

that twists it into? the thing

8:11

or is it just like a

8:13

diaper genie that is we are

8:15

beyond that now okay every every

8:17

several years you get a new

8:19

I see yes then like the

8:21

the new thing yes and I

8:23

want to be clear none of

8:25

them work okay like every fancy

8:28

diaper pale you buy that is

8:30

gonna seal in the smell no

8:32

it does not it is not

8:34

that smell overpowers all things all

8:36

things all materials If Elon Musk

8:38

could work on it, that'd be

8:40

great. Maybe he could come up

8:42

with something better. At any rate,

8:44

ours has been liberated and is

8:46

no longer going to be in

8:48

that room because they can't be

8:50

trusted. No, that's, yeah, that's like

8:52

a, that's like Chernobyl in there.

8:54

Look at this, dad! Yeah, that's

8:56

that. Now, you know what, those

8:58

are the words that can be

9:00

so frightening. When they say that,

9:02

before you even see what it,

9:04

but you even see what it,

9:06

look it, look at this, look

9:08

at this. I still tease around

9:10

this, when she was small, like

9:12

the same age as a toddler,

9:14

and before you could even look,

9:16

she would say something like, look,

9:18

and you're like, oh no, I

9:20

know, what could it be? Sometimes

9:22

it's harmless, but other times it's

9:24

like, what are you doing? So

9:26

any time you heard look, you

9:28

know, brace yourself. And same thing,

9:30

when you hear look at this,

9:32

hmm. Occasionally ours will do a,

9:34

the jump to you without warning

9:37

you, which is really. The jump?

9:39

Yeah, like jumping off of furniture,

9:41

jumping to me, jumping off a

9:43

stairway onto me, and look, I

9:45

don't want to brag. But I

9:47

do have pretty good reflexes. And

9:49

thank goodness. And I do work

9:51

out. And this is one of

9:53

the reasons, because when a 37

9:55

pound kettle ball flings itself at

9:57

you from a stairway, you must

9:59

be able to absorb that without

10:01

injuring yourself. And so that is

10:03

why I go to the gym.

10:05

That's the silly reason why. But

10:07

they think about how they look

10:09

at you like indestructible. I guess

10:11

so. You know, it's like all

10:13

I can do. these things. Well,

10:15

because they don't understand what your

10:17

journeys are. They don't understand that.

10:19

Little on 50s. But don't worry.

10:21

I don't think everything's fine. Hopefully

10:23

they won't be doing this too

10:25

in your 50s. Yeah. Yeah. I

10:27

think we'll we'll settle down by

10:29

then. Oh, right. So that's what's

10:31

going on. We have baby proof

10:33

yet again in the saga of

10:35

the nursery. Pretty soon it's just

10:37

going to be down to like

10:39

no bunk bed. No beds, just

10:41

original crib mattresses on the floor,

10:44

no carpet. Actually, I just replaced

10:46

the carpet because it got too

10:48

radioactive in there. You're getting closer,

10:50

you're getting closer and closer to

10:52

like the padded room. That's really

10:54

what it's going to end up

10:56

being. Well, you know, maybe I

10:58

should just like throw magic erasers

11:00

in there and have them clean

11:02

the walls. No, they would think

11:04

of it as kind of a

11:06

fun thing to do without realizing

11:08

its work. Anyway, Living your best

11:10

life. Living those last... Okay, should

11:12

we talk about the news? Yeah,

11:14

let's do it. Okay, President Donald

11:16

Trump signed an executive order this

11:18

week. that is entitled keeping men

11:20

out of women's sports. But it's

11:22

already vested in me as president

11:24

by the Constitution of the United

11:26

States America to protect opportunities for

11:28

women and girls to compete in

11:30

safe and fair sports. It is

11:32

hereby ordered in recent years many

11:34

educational institutions and athletic associations have

11:36

allowed men to compete in women's

11:38

sports. This is demeaning, unfair and

11:40

dangerous to women and denies women

11:42

and girls the equal opportunity to

11:44

participate and excel in a competitive

11:46

sports. It goes on to the

11:48

site Title IX. and how you

11:50

can't do that because of Title

11:53

IX. And it is therefore the

11:55

policy of the United States to

11:57

rescind all funds from educational programs

11:59

that deprive women and girls of

12:01

fair athletic opportunities, which results in

12:03

the endangerment, humiliation and silencing of

12:05

women and girls, and deprives them

12:07

of privacy. It shall also be

12:09

the policy of the United States

12:11

to oppose male competitive... in women's

12:13

sports more broadly as a matter

12:15

of safety, fairness, dignity, and truth.

12:17

In signing this order, he invited

12:19

a bunch of very well-known fighters

12:21

on this front. Jennifer Say, who

12:23

was the former Levi's VP really

12:25

high up at Levi's and then

12:27

left because she was an open

12:29

schools person and her activism got

12:31

her iced out of that major

12:33

corporation during COVID. She then, with

12:35

her expertise in clothing, created a

12:37

women friendly athletic company while all

12:39

the other athletic companies were going

12:41

the other direction and embracing Trans

12:43

women. Wasn't she also a guest

12:45

on this show? She was yes

12:47

when she put her book out

12:49

and it that brand is called

12:51

XXXY and they do have great

12:53

gear I wear it. She was

12:55

there Riley Gaines was there who

12:57

of course is the University of

13:00

Kentucky swimmer who famously had to

13:02

give up one of her positions

13:04

in swimming in college to Leah

13:06

Thomas of Pennsylvania, who I think

13:08

it can fairly be said was

13:10

the person who really radicalized a

13:12

lot of people on this issue.

13:14

I think a lot of people

13:16

were on the no men should

13:18

not compete in women's sports no

13:20

matter what they call themselves side

13:22

of the issue, but they were

13:24

bullied into silence. Many, many, many

13:26

people were bullied into silence. The

13:28

trans lobby is very, very aggressive.

13:30

It's a vocal minority, but it

13:32

just seems out it's a minority.

13:34

From like 2018 to 2023, they

13:36

made it very painful for anyone

13:38

who spoke up. Riley Gaines was

13:40

among the few collegiate women who

13:42

said, no, this is not how

13:44

this is supposed to work. And

13:46

despite her many years of hard

13:48

work and working out and hours

13:50

and hours in the pool, there's

13:52

a six-two dude who comes along

13:54

and steals their records. So she

13:56

made very clear that she was

13:58

against that. So various people like

14:00

this who had worked very hard

14:02

on this issue. people at other

14:04

levels who had worked locally on

14:07

the issue, but most importantly in

14:09

the room for the signing, a

14:11

bunch of young women athletes in

14:13

their uniforms, stand in there, watching

14:15

the president sign this thing. Let

14:17

me be clear about like public

14:19

opinion on this, which I think

14:21

has always been very supportive of

14:23

the idea of women having women

14:25

sports. It's 80-20. It's an 80-20

14:27

issue. Donald Trump is on the

14:29

80% side of this issue. And

14:31

yet. And somehow, liberals and feminists

14:33

fooled themselves into being on the

14:35

20 side of this issue. They

14:37

looked at JK Ralling and they

14:39

were like, that can't be right.

14:41

No, we need to cancel her.

14:43

She's bad, right? Yeah. These ideas

14:45

are bad. No, JK was right.

14:47

Trump was right. They're on the

14:49

80% side of an 80-20 issue

14:51

and the display. in the White

14:53

House for this signing was beautiful.

14:55

It warmed my heart because I

14:57

thought of all those girls who

14:59

are going to work so hard

15:01

to do whatever they want to

15:03

do in their sports and they

15:05

will not have some male classmates

15:07

show up and top them and

15:09

then have to cheer for him.

15:11

That was that was the part

15:13

that really got me is that

15:16

you got to cheer for inclusion

15:18

while you're getting your ass beat.

15:20

I did not. Yeah, while you're

15:22

getting excluded from winning. Not a

15:24

fan of that. At any rate,

15:26

all these families are there, their

15:28

moms are there, the little girls

15:30

are there, and Trump is about

15:32

to sign, and we can play

15:34

a clip of it, of him

15:36

inviting these young ladies to gather

15:38

around him while he signs. You

15:40

know, if you'd like to gather

15:42

around me, I think I'm going

15:44

to be okay. Come on. Secret

15:52

services worried about them? If we

15:54

have to worry about them, we

15:56

have big problems. Okay, do you

15:58

want to? Do you want to

16:00

do this? Watch what I do.

16:02

Then I'm going to give you

16:04

some pens. Okay. You ready? What

16:06

a nice picture this is, huh?

16:08

Governor. You ready? We'll do a

16:10

good job. Wait, let me press

16:12

that. I want to make this

16:15

a really good signature. Because this

16:17

is, you know, this is a

16:19

big one, right? We have a

16:21

10. They were amazing optics. Those

16:23

are the best optics ever. I

16:25

can only have this for all

16:27

my signings. Yes. Truly the best

16:29

optics ever. I can only have

16:31

this for all my signings. Yes.

16:33

Truly the best optics. Really? Quite

16:35

enjoyable to watch. I sent that

16:37

video. Explain to me how I'm

16:39

supposed to not like this. Yes.

16:41

Explain to me how it's possible

16:44

to not like that clip. I

16:46

am so glad he's doing this.

16:48

I am so proud of those

16:50

who were very vocal about this

16:52

because it was very hard to

16:54

do. I am so happy for

16:56

women athletes as a former and

16:58

current mediocre female athlete myself. I

17:00

am glad that women athletes who

17:02

are much better than I am

17:04

and those who are mediocre like

17:06

myself, but find much fulfillment in

17:08

it, will be able to go

17:11

forth with far fewer threats to

17:13

their medals and records and time

17:15

and hearts and all of that.

17:17

Oh, and locker rooms. We haven't

17:19

even talked about privacy part of

17:21

this. Yeah. Yeah. It started with

17:23

the recognition from this administration that

17:25

there are only two sexes men

17:27

and women. And it was largely

17:29

a victory for common sense. I

17:31

think there were a lot of

17:33

people out there in the last

17:35

four or five years or more

17:38

who kept on thinking, I just

17:40

doesn't seem right to me, that

17:42

I'm supposed to be on the

17:44

right side. or the good side

17:46

of this by saying, yeah, it's

17:48

great that Leah Thomas won because

17:50

she identifies as a woman. And

17:52

therefore, even though my eyes are

17:54

telling me one thing, my mind

17:56

tells me I can't be on

17:58

the side of these crazy conservatives.

18:00

And so good for him or

18:02

her. So it was a victory

18:05

for common sense. But it's sad

18:07

because for the other side, it's

18:09

like, I get it. You don't

18:11

like Trump. But you feel so

18:13

compelled. to just take the opposite

18:15

position of him in every single

18:17

thing that suddenly you are opposing

18:19

women in sports and you know

18:21

you support biological males competing against

18:23

them and not only that as

18:25

you mentioned Mary Catherine but biological

18:27

males in the girls locker room

18:29

yes and hey this is great

18:32

also these things that you say

18:34

are happening aren't happening except they

18:36

are happening they're good and I

18:38

mentioned this obliquely in the last

18:40

episode or two about a problem,

18:42

but this is in the news

18:44

now. You can see it in

18:46

ArleNow.com, which is at a local

18:48

school at a high school here

18:50

in Washington Liberty, which used to

18:52

be Washington Lee, but you couldn't

18:54

have Lee anymore, so that now

18:56

became Liberty. Home with the generals,

18:59

Washington and General Liberty apparently is

19:01

the other one now. But you

19:03

know, they had this this man

19:05

who had a criminal record who

19:07

was going to... the girls locker

19:09

room and changing and exposing himself

19:11

because he would say before he

19:13

checks in that he identifies as

19:15

a woman. So now there's a

19:17

huge uproar, as you can imagine,

19:19

even from parents of very left

19:21

leaning, very blue Arlington, right. That's

19:23

right, who were saying, I don't

19:25

want my daughter to be exposed

19:28

to this and how did you

19:30

let this happen? And you know,

19:32

the Arlington County board and everybody

19:34

else here on the other side

19:36

are saying, look. This is not

19:38

a trans issue. This guy was

19:40

a, he's a, he's a, he's

19:42

a, he's a sex offender. He

19:44

had a record. and somehow he

19:46

managed to sneak in and it's

19:48

wrong and he's been arrested and

19:50

it won't happen again. But I

19:52

just remember being told we're supposed

19:55

to believe and love and respect

19:57

people for their chosen identity. This

19:59

is the problem. If the standard

20:01

is subjective, if the standard is

20:03

you are what you think you

20:05

are and nothing else matters, then

20:07

they can't say that this isn't

20:09

a transition because that person said

20:11

that he is trans. how you

20:13

can't filter it that way and

20:15

this is what many conservatives said

20:17

the whole time which is like

20:19

or just people with common sense

20:22

really yeah but if you don't

20:24

have a specific standard people can

20:26

game the system whether they are

20:28

sincere or not it doesn't matter

20:30

you can still invade people's privacy

20:32

and make a bunch of women

20:34

uncomfortable the other thing that bothers

20:36

me is often women stuck in

20:38

these situations in high school even

20:40

yeah or middle school who were

20:42

made to change in front of

20:44

male teammates in the same areas

20:46

with them would object and it

20:49

wasn't them who got the benefit

20:51

of doubt or their space back.

20:53

No, no, no, no, no, no.

20:55

They were offered separate spaces, ashamed

20:57

for bringing this up, told they

20:59

shouldn't be uncomfortable about it. And

21:01

this is a big one for

21:03

me because I'm raising three girls

21:05

and I think for any kid,

21:07

but particularly young women as I

21:09

have more experience with that. You

21:11

got to be able to trust

21:13

your gut on things like that.

21:16

You have to be able to

21:18

say, I feel not good in

21:20

this changing room situation and there's

21:22

a reason I feel not good

21:24

and I want to be listened

21:26

to when I say that. And

21:28

to tell young women not to

21:30

trust that I think is a

21:32

terrible idea. And you end up

21:34

with this thing that you have

21:36

even in Arlington. Again, this is

21:38

like the immigration thing where the

21:40

left has ended up on the

21:42

wrong side. of very aggressive activism.

21:45

We're gonna get to that. They're

21:47

on the side of very aggressive

21:49

activism. Right. And on the opposite

21:51

side of issues that don't play.

21:53

even in really liberal towns. By

21:55

the way, I should note, an

21:57

executive order can, of course, be

21:59

overturned as soon as the next

22:01

person comes in. I was going

22:03

to say, beware the executive orders.

22:05

However, there have been court rulings

22:07

on Title IX that affirm that

22:09

the Biden administration was not allowed

22:12

to just change this to mean

22:14

men and women, because it needs

22:16

to mean biological women or else

22:18

it means nothing. So there are

22:20

some court decisions bolstering that part

22:22

of it. This executive order caused...

22:24

the NCAA to announce that it

22:26

will be aligning itself with this

22:28

executive order and my theory on

22:30

this is kind of the way

22:32

it had been until the last

22:34

10 or so years yes like

22:36

that has been our normal understanding

22:39

if you brought this up in

22:41

2008 or whatever they would have

22:43

thought you were crazy right so

22:45

the NCAA says quote, we strongly

22:47

believe that clear, consistent, and uniform

22:49

eligibility standards would best serve today's

22:51

student athletes instead of a patchwork

22:53

of conflicting state laws and court

22:55

decisions. To that end, President Trump's

22:57

order provides a clear national standard.

22:59

According to the statement, the NCAA

23:01

will continue to help foster welcoming

23:03

environments on campuses for all student

23:06

athletes. Baker also mentioned that the

23:08

NCAA is ready to assist schools

23:10

as they look for ways to

23:12

support any student athlete affected by

23:14

the change in policy. Okay. So

23:16

this reads to me like, they

23:18

will be going with women have

23:20

women's sports again. Yeah. And what's

23:22

important to me about this is

23:24

that I think, as we've been

23:26

saying on this podcast several times

23:28

over, leadership matters. And this is

23:30

just an executive order. It is

23:33

not legislation. But it signals leadership

23:35

on an issue. And when the

23:37

people standing behind Trump spoke up

23:39

when it was hard, they gave

23:41

other people courage to speak up

23:43

and Trump doing this. I think

23:45

gives courage to formerly cowardly institutions

23:47

who knew they probably weren't doing

23:49

the right thing here, but they

23:51

couldn't get on the wrong side

23:53

of the law. left. Right. Now

23:55

it was a matter of convenience

23:57

and cowardice. Right. Well, and now

24:00

the NCAA will get itself on

24:02

the right side of an 80-20

24:04

issue. And guess what? It's real

24:06

hard to go back after you

24:08

get on the right side of

24:10

an 80-20 issue. Suddenly allowed dudes

24:12

back in. Yes. Again, the victory

24:14

for common sense. You think about

24:16

people like Congressman Seth Moulton from

24:18

Massachusetts who got it. He's a

24:20

Democrat. and said he didn't want

24:22

his daughter out there on the

24:24

field competing with you know biological

24:26

males and he got attacked yeah

24:29

for taking a position that i

24:31

think most parents would say that

24:33

and they would agree with her

24:35

as opposed to no i hope

24:37

there are some guys out there

24:39

and you know i mean that's

24:41

no i mean they know that

24:43

they're different they took a thing

24:45

which is like yeah and then

24:47

they tell you it's such a

24:49

small percentage well actually if you

24:51

look at the records of how

24:53

many yeah amateur and pro and

24:56

all in between records and medals

24:58

and placings have been taken from

25:00

women over the years. It's not

25:02

a small number. But what they

25:04

took is what they always do

25:06

with tolerance and diversity, which is

25:08

the frankly innate kindness of the

25:10

American people who want to treat

25:12

people fairly and give people opportunity.

25:14

And they said, okay, here's there,

25:16

here is this relatively small number

25:18

of people and here's what they

25:20

want. and you got to do

25:23

it or you're a terrible bigot.

25:25

Yeah. And it doesn't matter what

25:27

the implications are, it doesn't matter

25:29

that it's unfair to your kids,

25:31

it doesn't matter that it'll make

25:33

fewer women join sports teams in

25:35

the future. It made no sense.

25:37

It made no sense from the

25:39

beginning, but people went along with

25:41

it, especially during the crazy time

25:43

of 2020 to 2022 or so.

25:45

And it just was such a,

25:47

I feel like with hindsight, it's

25:50

going to look more and more

25:52

crazy. Looking at you know we've

25:54

we've we've discussed this before Mary

25:56

Catherine and but it was more

25:58

theoretical in previous shows years past

26:00

even saying that you know one

26:02

day we'll look back and you

26:04

know. maybe, hopefully, God willing, will

26:06

say, wow, that was really crazy

26:08

that we did these things. But

26:10

it was still unclear to me

26:12

at the time which direction this

26:14

country was going and I wasn't

26:17

holding my breath. But here we

26:19

are. And I think now, as

26:21

you are saying, now it can

26:23

be told and we can say,

26:25

wow, that was nuts, along with

26:27

certain approaches we had to the

26:29

pandemic and everything got, just throw

26:31

it all in there to the

26:33

year we lived insanely. That's the,

26:35

that's one thing. And the other

26:37

thing is, you mentioned Riley Gaines,

26:39

you mentioned Riley Gaines. being there

26:41

and I almost got a shout

26:43

out from the president I believe.

26:46

Yes I'm sure and I don't

26:48

know if you've met her in

26:50

person I almost had the opportunity

26:52

to meet her I missed her

26:54

because of just timing about things

26:56

and I feel like you know

26:58

how her argument is men are

27:00

different than women right? and I

27:02

agree with that in fact I

27:04

was thinking I would love to

27:06

challenge her to like a swimming

27:08

competition thing. Good luck with that.

27:10

Because you know what? I am

27:13

a man. Now the only condition

27:15

I have is I don't want

27:17

water in my nose because if

27:19

I get it, it goes I

27:21

can't do that with the water.

27:23

So I would say I'll do

27:25

a swimming, but as long as

27:27

it does involve putting my head

27:29

in the water. She probably still.

27:31

I think she might have you.

27:33

She might have me. I'm pretty

27:35

good at the dog paddle. All

27:37

right. I do backstroke, but I

27:40

get so nervous about hitting my

27:42

head. I am not a great

27:44

swimmer. I'm a proficient swimmer, but

27:46

I've never been a strong swimmer.

27:48

And it is a very, I

27:50

think we talked about this, how

27:52

I was, you know, I was

27:54

going to train over the summer.

27:56

And I did some. And it

27:58

made me much better. It made

28:00

me slightly better. It made me

28:02

slightly better during those weeks that

28:04

I did that. But yeah, it's

28:07

a hard sport. It's very hard

28:09

sport, very early mornings, very early

28:11

mornings, in the cold pool. I

28:13

like the idea of being on

28:15

that too. I like, I like

28:17

the idea of being a lifeguard,

28:19

but the idea of, again, unless

28:21

I have that, well, quick, I

28:23

gotta put my nose plugs in

28:25

and. Really, there aren't nose plugs

28:27

big enough for my nose. I

28:29

mean, that's one of the other

28:31

issues. I have a lot of

28:34

issues. That is an issue. I

28:36

used to be able to. Can

28:38

you get the goggles around your

28:40

head? No, that's an, oh my

28:42

gosh, you know, and I need

28:44

prescription goggles because I'm blind as

28:46

a bat. I mean, there's also,

28:48

but once I take care of

28:50

all those things, I'm ready to

28:52

take on Riley. Remember Abigail Shrier's

28:54

book was censored and actually banned

28:56

for a brief time at Amazon.

28:58

I have not talked about as

29:01

much and I've been remiss. Ryan

29:03

Anderson's book, When Harry became Sally,

29:05

responding to the transgender moment, that

29:07

was banned for four years on

29:09

Amazon and it has just been

29:11

added back because because because they

29:13

want to make money. Well, even

29:15

though his book was hate speech

29:17

before. It's now no longer hate

29:19

speech. So at any rate, the

29:21

vibe has definitely shifted. I do

29:23

think that Trump's leadership on this

29:25

will inspire many an institution. Some

29:27

of them are going to file

29:30

lawsuits, right? Yeah. But there will

29:32

be many institutions I think that

29:34

want to go this direction and

29:36

didn't know how to do it.

29:38

Right. And this will be how

29:40

they do it. And just ask

29:42

yourself, take a step back and

29:44

think. Is it really the side

29:46

you want to be on or

29:48

the hell you want to die

29:50

on is supporting biological men competing

29:52

against women? I remember Martina Navratilova

29:54

who is no conservative. No conservative.

29:57

She famous, you know, tennis star,

29:59

she writes on X. I hate

30:01

that the Democrats totally failed women

30:03

and girls on this very clear

30:05

issue of women's sports being for

30:07

females only. I think this is

30:09

going to be a problem for

30:11

them for a while because I

30:13

have... in my circles and in

30:15

other major cities suburban moms were

30:17

mad about this. Yeah. And suburban

30:19

moms were being lied to about

30:21

this and they were being jerked

30:24

around by their school. districts on

30:26

it and they got ticked off

30:28

about it and look they don't

30:30

often talk about their Trump votes

30:32

but some of them no went

30:34

for him based on it and

30:36

they were told it wasn't happening

30:38

yeah you know so I mean

30:40

it's just like anyway yeah so

30:42

it's a it's a new era

30:44

and he's right that picture was

30:46

something else that that dude can

30:48

make a moment mm-hmm you really

30:51

can't yeah meanwhile shall we go

30:53

the other direction The optics of

30:55

the other gathering, which is the

30:57

Democrats gathering outside USAID, which is

30:59

the U.S. Agency for International Development.

31:01

That's right. Names so that it

31:03

kind of sounds like it's doing

31:05

a bunch of stuff for us.

31:07

Yeah, but it's not. USAID is

31:09

the first target of Elon Musk's

31:11

Doge organization and Elon Musk has

31:13

several dudes working for him as

31:15

we've discussed who are working through

31:18

the the data here and have

31:20

access to systems. Wonder Kins, Wonder

31:22

Kins. And Democrats are big, big,

31:24

mad. Now they tell you two

31:26

things at the same time. They

31:28

tell you that this is a

31:30

tiny slice of the budget and

31:32

it's not important and why would

31:34

anybody ever care about it and

31:36

you guys aren't getting anything real

31:38

done. They also tell you that

31:40

it is the cornerstone of democracy

31:42

and should you be allowed to

31:45

look through USAID's numbers, all of

31:47

democracy will collapse and it's all

31:49

for not. So which one is

31:51

it, Vic? Well, it's the same

31:53

thing as when they say, you

31:55

know, oh, you know, these programs

31:57

that they're just nitpicking, like the

31:59

DEA opera that they paid, I

32:01

don't know, $32,000 for in Ireland

32:03

or the million plus for the

32:05

disabled Tajik's and Tajikistan to get

32:07

more involved in climate change leadership

32:09

roles if it's not a lot

32:11

of money, I'll take it. If

32:14

it's nothing, I have. gotten a

32:16

payment. Or I could just, oh

32:18

here's an idea, just doesn't do

32:20

it. Oh, just pit ball and

32:22

hear me out. I could just

32:24

keep my money that I earned.

32:26

So at any rate, the Dems

32:28

rallied and it was Jasmine Crockett,

32:30

it was Ayana Presley. It was

32:32

Elizabeth Warren, it was Al Green,

32:34

the guy who runs all the

32:36

impeachments and carries a cane. Not

32:38

the great singer Al Green. The

32:41

guy who does the- The guy

32:43

who does the impeachments and carries

32:45

a cane. Yes. Shumor, leading the

32:47

chant. We can play a little

32:49

bit of this. The compilation. Yeah.

32:51

We will win. We will. We

32:53

will. We won't rest. We won't

32:55

rest. We won't rest. Thank you,

32:57

everybody. Thank you. Thank you. Leader

32:59

Schumer. I mean. Can I just

33:01

say you never want to switch

33:03

chance? Mid-chance. No. You think he

33:05

knows that. He's been a Democrat

33:08

for a long time. We don't

33:10

really do chance. Right, right. You

33:12

know, are you being, are you

33:14

being, Republicans, don't you, no, we

33:16

do, we do, we do USA,

33:18

USA, that's the only one we

33:20

have. They, they, they, they, they

33:22

barely get their act together clapping

33:24

hands in time. So, I mean,

33:26

you ever notice, Republicans, like, ah.

33:28

I mean, yeah, we try to

33:30

avoid that. Yeah, a little bit.

33:32

Corey Booker was there also at

33:35

this rally, and he was, you

33:37

know, workplace promotion in Serbia. Right.

33:39

It is, there's a saying, a

33:41

hit dog hollers and this dog

33:43

is hollering. Like it just like

33:45

feels like there's, is there more

33:47

here than we knew about? And

33:49

like, look, I'm sorry. cynical about

33:51

government that I assume that everything

33:53

is BS like everything. Now some

33:55

people will say to you there's

33:57

plenty of good things that USAID

33:59

does. I would say that's not

34:02

good enough anymore. We are in

34:04

your explain yourself era. You have

34:06

to explain what you're doing with

34:08

people's money. Elon Musk is going

34:10

to find what you're doing with

34:12

people's money. and you need to

34:14

address it. It's not going to

34:16

be enough just to be like,

34:18

this is good, you shut up.

34:20

Right. The anger, by the way,

34:22

the vitriol directed at Elon during

34:24

the rally. One of the speakers

34:26

referred to him as, you know,

34:28

he came here from South Africa

34:31

as if he was like pro-apartide

34:33

like one of the villains from

34:35

lethal weapon too. Yeah. Diplomatic community,

34:37

you know, no. They left precisely

34:39

because of apartheid, you know, and

34:41

he doesn't, it's, okay. the you

34:43

know the it's just the pushback

34:45

is just so insane I get

34:47

it I think I think I

34:49

think I've said about these things

34:51

but I think I've said this

34:53

but Musk is wrong that like

34:55

revealing who works for his part

34:58

of the government no is that

35:00

that's not illegal that's yeah threats

35:02

against them yeah can be sure

35:04

taking action against them in violent

35:06

ways could be the naming of

35:08

them no no no nor by

35:10

the way federal workers is naming

35:12

some of you guys that's also

35:14

not illegal right looking into this

35:16

not illegal a couple of FBI

35:18

agents are suing, saying on First

35:20

Amendment grounds that the president can't

35:22

get a list of people who

35:25

worked on various different kinds of

35:27

investigations. Like, I think he can.

35:29

I think he can. They're worried

35:31

about their personal security, I think.

35:33

But I would just say in

35:35

this new era of resistance, they

35:37

don't have a clear leader. And

35:39

I don't think they know which

35:41

direction to go, as illustrated by

35:43

them sort of coming down on

35:45

Seth Moulton really hard when he

35:47

came out with a very reasonable

35:49

stance. on gender ideology issues. And

35:52

the cacophony from that rally in

35:54

Schumer, that kind of really summed

35:56

it up, didn't it? It was

35:58

like. That is, that in a

36:00

nutshell, you're looking at the damage

36:02

and disarray. Yeah, I mean, even

36:04

the likes of Jimmy Kimmel were

36:06

like, yeah, we are so eft,

36:08

he says, this is not good.

36:10

Someone pointed out that like an

36:12

80-something guy, Schumer, is he eight

36:14

out of 70, 80-something guy standing

36:16

there without green flankinging his cane

36:19

in the air, was not the

36:21

ideal picture for the future. even

36:23

the CNN panel by the way

36:25

that looked at this was yeah

36:27

with Abby Philip and Scott Jennings

36:29

of course begging them to replay

36:31

it because it was so good

36:33

and the liberals on that panel

36:35

is very frustrated because you know

36:37

they this is not what they

36:39

want and they say themselves we

36:41

need leadership and I think was

36:43

Tamila Rosa who had said you

36:46

know that they're wasting their ammo

36:48

on this you know what I

36:50

mean this is this is not

36:52

where you want to be. I'd

36:54

be there. But this is part

36:56

of, I think, that Trump's strategy,

36:58

just flood the zone. I mean,

37:00

what are they? I mean, there's

37:02

so much outrage, there's so much

37:04

outrage going around that, you know,

37:06

you're not even going to notice

37:08

that Greenland has become our 51

37:10

state. And Republicans have been in

37:12

this situation before, right? In 2008,

37:15

nine, when Obama was riding high,

37:17

the basis. There would never be

37:19

a Republican elected ever elected ever.

37:21

No, and the base is demanding

37:23

that you fight somehow, somehow, something,

37:25

strategically well and has a political

37:27

honeymoon here and there's not what

37:29

you can do about it so

37:31

you just kind of got a

37:33

bitch and hope that people think

37:35

that's enough but I would suggest

37:37

that both entitled federal employees and

37:39

the people who run these NGOs

37:42

that are getting this slush fund

37:44

from NSAID yeah no matter what

37:46

part of the budget they are

37:48

they have a shallow well of

37:50

goodwill with American voters yeah and

37:52

the more american voters learn about

37:54

these programs and the the protections

37:56

of federal workers i think the

37:58

more annoyed they're going to get

38:00

at these And touting this, you

38:02

know, quote unquote, rally to restore

38:04

foreign aid now is not really

38:06

going to get a lot of

38:09

Americans, I think, on your side.

38:11

Foreign aid is not a thing

38:13

that Americans love. No. Particularly right

38:15

now. Again, you're getting yourself on

38:17

the wrong side of an issue.

38:19

If that's a principled stand, fine.

38:21

But you're a political party. Yeah.

38:23

And you're on the wrong side

38:25

of a lot of issues right

38:27

now. I know people who have

38:29

been watching the devastation in Western

38:31

North Carolina and California, especially. are

38:33

like, why are they so mad?

38:36

Yeah, angry about these foreign programs.

38:38

Right. We were sitting here with

38:40

people in campers trying to get

38:42

donated propane tanks to keep them

38:44

warm. Yeah, like FEMA's doing nothing.

38:46

Right. So people are annoyed with

38:48

that. And I think, look, I

38:50

think that the philosophy of many

38:52

of these tech companies can be.

38:54

could be problematic for voters at

38:56

some point right if you run

38:58

into anything you pull the wrong

39:00

switch and you do something that

39:03

disrupts services that people actually need

39:05

that's gonna be a problem move

39:07

fast and break shit is great

39:09

until you break the wrong thing

39:11

yeah however our friends on the

39:13

left must recognize how low the

39:15

bar is for a functioning program

39:17

from the federal government in the

39:19

first place right who would even

39:21

know if it was broken who

39:23

would even know It's pretty easy

39:25

pickings for the Republicans right now

39:27

to just bring up any and

39:29

expose any government waste thing that's

39:32

happening. And when people say this

39:34

is nothing, you're, you know, this

39:36

is window dressing, frankly that's not

39:38

wrong. Because if you don't touch

39:40

Medicare and Social Security and all

39:42

these things, and health care is

39:44

the issue. And health care expenses,

39:46

then you're in a bad way.

39:48

However, this is still American taxpayer's

39:50

money. Yeah. Small amounts are not

39:52

small to American taxpayers. The things

39:54

you're saying are small are big,

39:56

in fact. There's a big fight

39:59

about $8 million to Politico in

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various different forms from various different

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agencies. Now subscription, that is not

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a prescription, a subscription. Subscription. Subscription.

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Subscription to Political Pro, which in

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some agencies, I believe, was totaling

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year in subscriptions. So here's the

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thing. Political Pro is a very

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expensive subscription service that is a

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very specialized version of reporting and

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tracking. the federal government and legislation

40:23

that arguably can be very useful

40:26

to people who are in the

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federal government. That's coming down the

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pike. However, when they're spending half

40:32

a million in an agency on

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40, very high-priced, what, five-figure subscriptions,

40:36

y'all can't share passwords like the

40:38

rest of us do? I don't

40:40

know what you're talking about. Me

40:42

neither. We have questions. We have

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questions. And it's okay for people

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to have questions about that. And

40:48

when feds and the media say,

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oh my gosh, it's just eight

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million, what are you guys bragging

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out about? Brian Stelter noted that

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when the White House said, hey,

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we're going to stop those subscriptions

41:01

to Politico, Brian Stelter said, this

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is just a symbolic gesture, please

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give me a symbolic $8 million.

41:07

Yeah, that's right. If I had

41:09

$8 million I kept from the

41:11

federal government's knowledge, it would not

41:13

be symbolic. It would not be

41:15

symbolic. I don't know. I don't

41:17

know. I mean, you know, you're

41:20

outraged by this. I get it.

41:22

And so my, but I don't

41:24

know if this is a good

41:26

time to bring up to our,

41:28

some of our listeners that we

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also have getting hammered pro, which

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is a very, it's very expensive.

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For the Lolo price of 12K

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a year. Yeah, 12K, you too.

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Can you know? The actual show

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is two hours. And you're only

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hearing an hour, so can you

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imagine the stuff we're saying, completely

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unfundered. Yeah, 12K, 12K. Yeah, so

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that's, that's that. I want to

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know listeners, how much are you

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willing to pay for the unedited?

41:55

Yeah, actually. some figures. Yeah, and

41:57

we'll have our accountants, you know,

41:59

run the numbers. Okay, okay. So

42:01

we'll do that in the future.

42:03

Oh, right. I do kind of

42:05

feel like a sucker, like, where

42:07

have I, all these people getting

42:09

all this money? We know, come

42:11

on, man. We need to get

42:13

in on that. Okay, don't, let's

42:16

do a quick cabinet update before

42:18

we go to America. Congratulations. Sworn

42:20

in, I believe, by Clarence Thomas.

42:22

I believe in the Oval Office

42:24

is what it looked like. Was

42:26

that Oval Office? It might be,

42:28

but it was Clarence Thomas who

42:30

definitely did the swearing in. Yeah.

42:32

So she was sworn in. She,

42:34

one of her first things, she's

42:36

like, sending off memos very quickly

42:38

about how things will change. They're

42:40

ready to go. I'm like the

42:43

last time around. They're really ready

42:45

to go now. One of the

42:47

things she did was freeze DOJ

42:49

funds to sanctuary funds to sanctuary

42:51

cities. Yep. If you're not going

42:53

to follow federal law, I think

42:55

the federal law enforcement wing has

42:57

a bone to pick with you.

42:59

Yeah. This is just how that

43:01

works. Yeah, that's right. So that's

43:03

what Pam Bondi is up to.

43:05

Chris Wright is now on board

43:07

at Energy. Doug Bergman Interior. That

43:10

was a little while ago, but

43:12

he's one of my faves, so

43:14

just so keep track of him.

43:16

He has like three jobs. They

43:18

gave him like three jobs. I

43:20

want him to have all the

43:22

jobs. Yeah, Burgham, yeah, Burgham could

43:24

have done energy, obviously. Yes. And

43:26

then RFK and Tulsa, are they

43:28

both out of committee? They're both

43:30

out of committee on party line

43:32

votes, including Senator Cassidy, who, unclear

43:34

if he's going to vote for

43:37

him in, you know, in the

43:39

big vote. In the big one,

43:41

but certainly to get out of

43:43

committee because, hey, look, they deserve

43:45

an up and down. Let's just

43:47

find out how they do. So

43:49

I don't know. And I have

43:51

concerns about both, obviously. Chelsea Gever

43:53

notably earned the support of Senator

43:55

Collins. Yeah. It's all about, at

43:57

this point, them trying to say

43:59

to the. I want you to

44:01

forget the things of my past,

44:04

whether it be policy positions, things

44:06

I might have said or written

44:08

or whatever, and from this moment

44:10

forward, this is what I want

44:12

to do to make America healthy

44:14

again or whatever it is, and

44:16

I promise not to tamper with

44:18

anything involving vaccine policies, whatever it

44:20

is. I think that's where they

44:22

are now, is trying to convince

44:24

them that they've had a change

44:26

of heart. I don't know if

44:28

it works. Well, or that they

44:31

are a somewhat docile... part of

44:33

a coalition that is willing to

44:35

do what I don't mean docile

44:37

I just mean like cooperative sure

44:39

like we're not a threat from

44:41

within we want to do what

44:43

Trump wants to do I do

44:45

think I saw a tweet that

44:47

I thought was very smart from

44:49

Damon Linker who said I think

44:51

this gets to the heart of

44:53

the change in the Republican Party

44:55

and something that simply must be

44:57

recognized as part of the state

45:00

of play yeah Assuming RFK and

45:02

Gabbard get confirmed, we now have

45:04

the following two parties. Number one,

45:06

the GOP, a trans-ideological coalition of

45:08

anyone who hates the system, the

45:10

Dems, the party of the system,

45:12

passionately committed to defending FBI, CIA,

45:14

the federal bureaucracy and regulations. And

45:16

again, you're getting yourself on the

45:18

wrong side of the issue. People

45:20

have very real concerns about RFK

45:22

and Tulsa Gabbard, certainly from the

45:24

right. However. When we're talking zeitgeist,

45:27

when we're talking about what people

45:29

believe about the system, I would

45:31

rather be on, when it comes

45:33

to politics, the anti-system side versus

45:35

we passionately arguing for the current

45:37

system side. So I think that

45:39

is a genuine shift in the

45:41

characters of these two parties and

45:43

in, you know, it understandably makes

45:45

people uncomfortable. Yeah. Because conservatives are

45:47

not used to being really like

45:49

we're anti the system, but it's

45:51

very conservatism is like Well, let's

45:54

keep things how they are. Let's

45:56

be little cautious. The establishment certainly

45:58

has come under fire for not

46:00

doing enough to change things in

46:02

the past and this group of

46:04

folks is interested in change. Well

46:06

I mean I think what's interesting

46:08

is a lot of this push

46:10

for example by defenders of establishment

46:12

on the left shall we say

46:14

when it comes to Doge and

46:16

Elon Musk is sort of a

46:18

panic about what they might find

46:21

that part of it for me

46:23

at least I think yeah the

46:25

other thing is when you talked

46:27

about Pam Bonnie yes she has

46:29

issued lawsuits from the Department of

46:31

Justice certainly against the mayor of

46:33

Chicago is it what's his name

46:35

Brandon Johnson Johnson and Governor Jayby

46:37

Pritzker so regarding you know cooperating

46:39

with federal authorities and dealing with

46:41

illegal criminals again related to this

46:43

and related to sort of citing

46:45

with a citing against women you

46:48

know Democrats now find themselves compelled

46:50

to side with sanctuary city policies

46:52

against ice and angry at them

46:54

for taking away gang members traffickers

46:56

you know other criminals and and

46:58

you saw there's some video clips

47:00

I just seen in the news

47:02

of people on the left yelling

47:04

at the ice people for taking

47:06

away gang members how could you

47:08

do this please you know please

47:10

keep keep keep the traffickers here

47:12

and I wish they were I'm

47:14

gonna I'm gonna miss them on

47:17

my corner yeah and you know

47:19

I mean I don't understand this

47:21

is how bad they are yeah

47:23

this is a theme yeah don't

47:25

get on the side of the

47:27

Mexican flag waving and foreign flag

47:29

waving illegal immigrants blocking highways. Yeah,

47:31

burning the American flags of the

47:33

homes they don't want to go

47:35

to because they don't want to

47:37

go here. Yeah, that's right. That's

47:39

what's happening. That's the wrong crowd

47:41

to be standing with. Right. And

47:44

borders our Tom Homan had said

47:46

that apparently members of trendy Aragua,

47:48

the gang, criminal gang, may have

47:50

been tipped off before the arrival

47:52

of ice. So who's helping it?

47:54

Who feels that strongly? Like, oh,

47:56

I need to help these guys.

47:58

That's what I hate. I hate

48:00

Trump so much. I'm going to

48:02

show them. Well, and it's it's notable

48:04

in, you know, some of the talking points

48:07

and, you know, going through the data about

48:09

these apprehensions by ICE. Many

48:11

of them are just people who

48:13

had removal orders already during the

48:16

Biden administration. But the Biden administration

48:18

didn't go get them. It would

48:20

not allow or wouldn't try to

48:22

get them from places like Chicago.

48:24

So these are guys who were

48:26

marked by the Biden administration for

48:28

this. And Trump's just like. making

48:30

it happen. I did want to

48:32

note also that the Gabbard nomination,

48:34

which seems like in quite a bit

48:37

of trouble right around the time

48:39

she was testifying, apparently behind the

48:41

scenes, and this is indicative of

48:43

the shift in the party and

48:45

the coalitions and everything, Tom

48:48

Cotton, who's like a friend of

48:50

the program, Big Hawk, recruits

48:52

behind the scenes, Kirsten cinema.

48:54

I kind of classed of Arizona.

48:57

Yeah. Former Democrat-independent

49:00

vote scourge of the Democratic

49:02

coalition in the Senate on

49:04

things like preserving the filibuster.

49:06

She worked behind the scenes

49:09

on Gabbard's behalf as to

49:11

advance to sort of assure everybody

49:13

that this was cool. Yeah. So

49:15

this is the this is the group

49:17

there they're gathering and I

49:19

would suggest that Although cinema,

49:21

because she was basically run out

49:24

of the Democratic Party, does not

49:26

have that slot anywhere more, the

49:28

kind of person, the kind of

49:31

voter that cinema is and sort

49:33

of embodies, is not the one

49:35

Democrats need to be giving up

49:37

to Republicans. No. So it's

49:40

interesting that she has all this sway.

49:42

Do you remember she did this cutesy

49:44

video with Mitt Romney riffing on

49:47

Ted Lasso? Oh, and people got so

49:49

angry at her. Oh my gosh, so silly.

49:51

Yeah, I mean, at her. I've always liked

49:53

her. I like her. She dresses

49:55

very loudly. She dresses very ostentatiously.

49:58

I always enjoy. that

50:00

was pre-federment so people were like really

50:02

would like talk about her wardrobe wardrobe

50:04

and alleged that it was somehow inappropriate

50:07

it's like yeah it was just fun

50:09

do you remember how they tormented her

50:11

by bringing their cameras into the ladies

50:14

room the bathroom I think that was

50:16

a turning point yeah yes it was

50:18

so here's an interesting thing people have

50:20

talked about this we've talked about it

50:23

sometimes before the election of the second

50:25

election of Donald Trump which is there

50:27

used to be such great concern for

50:29

like one of the reasons not to

50:32

vote for Trump is because who is

50:34

left to staff this administration all the

50:36

good people are gone you know Pompeo

50:39

you know Kelly Mattis and people who

50:41

I like but he seems to be

50:43

doing okay so far yes he's found

50:45

people well he's found competent Marco Rubio

50:48

and I think it's the case that

50:50

thus far only heggseth was the one

50:52

who didn't have any democratic support so

50:55

even the people he's brought in As

50:57

we're being told that this is all

50:59

beyond the pale, they're getting bipartisan support.

51:01

Also, just get them confirmed faster. These

51:04

guys are being jerks about when they'll

51:06

vote for people and how they're going

51:08

to vote for people. The most recent

51:10

is the OMB head, who they've decided,

51:13

oh no, we're going to sit all

51:15

night in the Senate, but not really

51:17

filibuster, but kind of just hold you

51:20

guys up. It's not going to change

51:22

the vote. The president, just like Biden

51:24

deserves to have... Basically, some pretty serious

51:26

deference about who his people are. Are

51:29

you qualified? You can disagree with them,

51:31

but you know, anyway, moving forward. Okay,

51:33

and then lastly, Donald Trump at a

51:36

press conference with Vivi Netanyahu. The Prime

51:38

Minister of Israel, who was welcomed warmly

51:40

at the White House. Oh, I'm sure.

51:42

Both with an oval visit and a

51:45

Q&A in the oval. out to the,

51:47

it was the East Room, with the

51:49

formal press conference. Yes. And the formal

51:52

press conference. I mean, the back of

51:54

the oval stuff was quite chatty. And

51:56

then we got to the front facing

51:58

press conference and we heard this. Do

52:01

something that could be phenomenal. And I

52:03

don't want to be cute. I don't

52:05

want to be a wise guy, but

52:07

the Riviera of the Middle East, this

52:10

could be something that could be so

52:12

magnificent. But more importantly than that is

52:14

the people that have been. absolutely destroyed

52:17

that live there now can live in

52:19

peace in a much better situation because

52:21

they're living in hell and those people

52:23

will now be able to live in

52:26

peace will make sure that it's done

52:28

world-class it'll be wonderful for the people

52:30

Palestinians Palestinians mostly we're talking about and

52:33

I have a feeling that despite them

52:35

saying no I have a feeling that

52:37

the king in Jordan and that the

52:39

general president but that the general in

52:42

Egypt will open their hearts and will

52:44

give us the kind of land that

52:46

we need to get this done and

52:49

people can live in harmony and peace.

52:51

Thank you all very much. All right.

52:53

That's been walked back a little bit

52:55

already. Sure. When they realize that people

52:58

don't voluntarily on their own just leave

53:00

for real estate concern purposes? Or that

53:02

Americans... believe that one of the selling

53:04

points of Donald Trump is we he

53:07

doesn't want to put boots on the

53:09

ground in the Middle East. No, but

53:11

you know he's a developer at heart

53:14

and if we just you know he's

53:16

gonna meet with Jordan's King Hussein and

53:18

CC and Egypt and you know they'll

53:20

so the Gazans have a choice that

53:23

can go north or south and then

53:25

we'll build right hotels and resorts. Does

53:27

that mean they come back to those

53:30

places or no? Or now it's everything

53:32

is for sale like at the end

53:34

of Superman one Lex Luther's plan. You

53:36

know after the West Coast is gone

53:39

and he's got Otisville and then and

53:41

he becomes like the king of the

53:43

West Coast now. Truly it's hard to

53:46

say Vic. I think that on one

53:48

hand Donald Trump sort of naturally just

53:50

with his id is able to put

53:52

stuff out there that kind of bust

53:55

the paradigm and makes everybody go who

53:57

hold on yeah what are we doing

53:59

and I in and of itself that's

54:01

not necessarily the best tactic or my

54:04

favorite thing about him right but let's

54:06

In each of these situations, I'm like,

54:08

okay, I don't actually think he wants

54:11

American boots on the ground or to

54:13

own Gaza. What is the likely outcome

54:15

here? Is it that? He can see,

54:17

you know, but he can lease Gaza.

54:20

Right. I do think part of him

54:22

is just like a Toranian Sea, looks

54:24

like a golf course to me. Part

54:27

of it is that. Somebody told him

54:29

the magic words, be Trump property. Yeah.

54:31

You know. And, but what's the likely

54:33

outcome that a bunch of Arab countries

54:36

go? How do we get to a

54:38

different solution? Whether that solution is good?

54:40

This has always been the problem. Not

54:42

to Pat you and you and me

54:45

on the back too much, Vic, but

54:47

yes. The day after October 7th, we

54:49

were like once they go in as

54:52

they must. Yeah. How do you end?

54:54

Right, because a two-state solution, they could

54:56

talk about that and say it. All

54:58

they want, either side, not going to

55:01

happen now. It's not going to happen.

55:03

Once it became clear what one side

55:05

wanted to do the other side and

55:08

what their solution was on October 7,

55:10

not going to happen, I've heard. Different

55:12

people call it different things including you

55:14

said what do you say gaziera? Is

55:17

that what you said? What did you

55:19

call it? He called it America? It's

55:21

going to be the Gaza Riviera. I

55:24

called it Gaza America some people. Some

55:26

people have called it Mara America Some

55:28

people have called it Mara Gaza. Yes,

55:30

Gazalago I heard a good one on

55:33

Twitter. I'm sorry. I can't give credit

55:35

to the person I forget was Glenn

55:37

Gaza Glenn Ross. You know that's very

55:39

good. Let me tell me tell you

55:42

this What's what it? My question to

55:44

you, Mayor Catherine, in the short amount

55:46

of time that we have, as always,

55:49

what's he thinking? That's it. What's he

55:51

thinking? Because I have, I think for

55:53

me, in my mind, there's three different

55:55

possibilities, but I want to hear from

55:58

you first. Okay, I think it's like

56:00

equal parts. Hey, cheap beach front property.

56:02

This has long, this has been a

56:05

problem for a while. And I can

56:07

do this, by the way. I can

56:09

probably solve that problem. Yeah, yeah. Yeah,

56:11

yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then

56:14

part. And then part, his sort of

56:16

his sort of natural annoyance. with the

56:18

status quo way of doing things that

56:21

then leads him to say something that

56:23

Basically sort of puts a Puts a

56:25

ribbon on the fact puts a bow

56:27

on the fact that we all knew

56:30

the two-state solution was dead Right right

56:32

we all knew that but you're kind

56:34

of not really supposed to say it

56:36

and he just goes no Not an

56:39

option anymore. Yeah, so I think that

56:41

those are two things his natural inclination

56:43

to be like This is all eft.

56:46

What are y'all talking about? And the

56:48

other part, which is like I'd like

56:50

to buy, I'd like to start a

56:52

golf course here. Okay. Yeah. So it's

56:55

a bit of both. It's not one

56:57

or the other. It's like a lot

56:59

of things going on in his head.

57:02

No, yeah, I think both. Okay. That

57:04

kind of, for me, there is the

57:06

possibility that it's just, you know, at

57:08

his age, and he's doing great for

57:11

it. that Trump has a lot of

57:13

energy and we cannot keep up. We

57:15

cannot, we, and he was right. Yet

57:18

again, Trump was right, we are tired

57:20

of winning, we're just tired. But, you

57:22

know, we are, I'm exhausted. But the,

57:24

I just imagine in his age, sort

57:27

of the filter kind of comes off

57:29

and it's just like, oh, whatever is

57:31

in my head, I just come in

57:33

right out of my mouth and how

57:36

about this idea? So that's one thought.

57:38

The other thing though is it's kind

57:40

of like, it's kind of like a

57:43

ploy, it's kind of like, it's kind

57:45

of like, it's kind of like a

57:47

ploy, it's kind of like, like, like,

57:49

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

57:52

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

57:54

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

57:56

like, like, like, like, like, like, like,

57:59

like, like, like, like, like, like, like

58:01

this to chew over and go crazy

58:03

over and I'm going to get a

58:05

bunch of other stuff done while they're

58:08

doing that. And thirdly, as you mentioned,

58:10

it's like, well, we've tried everything else

58:12

that doesn't work, so here's my... solution.

58:14

You don't like it. Come up with

58:17

something better on your own. Exactly. Yeah,

58:19

some of it's that. Yeah. Do you

58:21

think that Netanyahu knew about it before

58:24

they went out there? No, I'm gonna

58:26

say no. I'm the poor guy. Maybe

58:28

maybe a couple minutes before he goes,

58:30

I've got an idea, Beaty. And then

58:33

that happened. But I, you know, you

58:35

look at his face and you know,

58:37

and I feel for him like what

58:40

is happening here. Yeah. Well, that is

58:42

true. Well, I mean, that's certainly true.

58:44

I do sometimes wonder about the intent.

58:46

Okay, before we finish, it's Super Bowl

58:49

weekend. It is. Hold on, one last

58:51

thing. Go ahead. Connected to Israel is

58:53

the other good thing is that the

58:56

other good thing is that they did

58:58

sign this, I don't know if it's

59:00

an executive order, it's just, you know,

59:02

a memorandum that went out for the

59:05

administration. Judea and Samaria. By the way,

59:07

beyond the Gaza thing, which of course

59:09

stole all the headlines, there was a

59:11

commitment to maximum pressure and sanctions on

59:14

Iran again, so we will no longer

59:16

be deferential or dropping off palates of

59:18

cash for Iran. So that will be

59:21

good and its proxies. We will be

59:23

selling the weapons that Biden didn't want

59:25

to sell to Israel. We will be

59:27

hearing the names of hostages regularly. I

59:30

have enjoyed watching Caroline Lovett and Trump

59:32

celebrate. the home comings of those hostages

59:34

by name from the podium yeah in

59:37

important events American hostages in particular have

59:39

been mentioned by name so so so

59:41

many more times than they were during

59:43

the Biden administration I heard a stat

59:46

the other day that was crazy that

59:48

was like Trump has taken more questions

59:50

in like the last week than Biden

59:53

did in two years yeah I have

59:55

not I haven't done that scientifically don't

59:57

fact check on that one guys before

59:59

we're done can I offer just one

1:00:02

little story for Super Bowl weekend, heading

1:00:04

in the Super Bowl weekend. Chiefs, Eagles.

1:00:06

I have to root for the Eagles

1:00:08

because. their entire defense is Georgia Bulldogs.

1:00:11

So that's where I'm at. Okay. But

1:00:13

I'm reading for them too. An incredible

1:00:15

story from out of Philly. Remember shortly

1:00:18

after the other very, very tragic plane

1:00:20

crash in the DC area that killed

1:00:22

67 people. There was another plane crash

1:00:24

in Philadelphia, which tragically was an air

1:00:27

ambulance with a patient in it trying

1:00:29

to go to Mexico, like an angel

1:00:31

flight, one of these like charity endeavors

1:00:34

where they bring people for surgeries. And

1:00:36

that flight went down a 10-year-old in

1:00:38

Philadelphia was out picking up donuts with

1:00:40

his dad and his sister. They're in

1:00:43

the parking lot near where this plane

1:00:45

goes down. The kid... Shields his sister

1:00:47

from Shrapnel from this plane crash, like

1:00:50

covers her up. He gets hit with

1:00:52

something. He ends up in emergency brain

1:00:54

surgery. He wakes up and the first

1:00:56

things he asks are, did I save

1:00:59

my sister? Oh my gosh. And did

1:01:01

I miss the Super Bowl? He's a

1:01:03

huge Eagles fan. He did not miss

1:01:05

the Super Bowl. I have heard, but

1:01:08

I haven't been able to verify yet

1:01:10

that they are getting him either tickets

1:01:12

or some very, very, very nice treatment.

1:01:15

from the Philadelphia Eagles organization, but what

1:01:17

a kid! Mary Catherine, you almost make

1:01:19

me watery-eyed here. That was a special

1:01:21

episode ending there. Isn't that amazing? His

1:01:24

name's LaShan Hamil. And I actually, I

1:01:26

somehow caught this in the local silly

1:01:28

news and tweeted it and it went

1:01:31

viral like that tweet went viral. Yeah.

1:01:33

But his dad says Andre Howard Jr.

1:01:35

says it felt like a movie. It

1:01:37

was like a horror movie. He sounded

1:01:40

like a missile was firing bullets. Metal

1:01:42

at my car. Everyone else's car. You

1:01:44

can see a car on fire. He

1:01:46

backed up his car while a sun

1:01:49

tray covered his little sister protecting her.

1:01:51

Wow. And he got hit with something,

1:01:53

but he seems to be doing well.

1:01:56

His dad got him to the hospital,

1:01:58

asked about his sister, and says, thank

1:02:00

goodness I didn't miss this. Super Bowl,

1:02:02

go Eagles. God bless, you know. Oh

1:02:05

my goodness. It's a good story to

1:02:07

come out of this tragedy. I have

1:02:09

a quick callouts. I want to thank

1:02:12

a number, too many listeners to thank

1:02:14

here about putting in their two cents

1:02:16

about my Nashville visit, offering some guidance.

1:02:18

I do have a listener, Lou Moore.

1:02:21

said Mary Catherine that he does think

1:02:23

that's cute that song that the Tennessee

1:02:25

what is it the I wear Tennessee

1:02:28

orange yes he says but that does

1:02:30

not you know he's telling his girls

1:02:32

that's not the way to go okay

1:02:34

that's the first thing he also said

1:02:37

the only people really who wear cowboy

1:02:39

hats in Nashville are bachelorette parties tourists

1:02:41

and country music stars okay that's it

1:02:43

so that's good to know and he

1:02:46

also shared my concern by the way

1:02:48

about Hattie B's at the airport and

1:02:50

and why would you go there before

1:02:53

your flight and I quote please lord

1:02:55

don't let him sit next to me

1:02:57

is what he says so that was

1:02:59

funny and finally listener Dean Mitchell who

1:03:02

said quote Vic makes going to Tennessee

1:03:04

sound like going on an African safari.

1:03:06

Yes, that's pretty much true, you know.

1:03:09

One of the tribal dances known as

1:03:11

the line dance. That's right, Douglas Murray

1:03:13

was in Nashville. That's my Douglas Murray

1:03:15

narration. Okay, that's my Douglas Murray narration.

1:03:18

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1:03:20

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1:03:31

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1:03:34

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