0:07

What's that at

0:08

the spooky

0:11

Hey, Judy, I'm pretty sure it's dead.

0:13

He's coming this way. Wait a

0:15

minute, said

0:21

nandas Pase.

0:26

Hey boo, it's

0:29

me Roz and

0:31

welcome to Ghosted

0:34

by ros Hernandez, the

0:36

podcast where I talk to people that I like

0:39

about the paranormal. Oh

0:41

my god, Doug Benson

0:44

is on the show. One

0:46

of my favorite comedians. Truly,

0:48

he kills me. We'll get to that in a

0:51

moment, but before that, Oh

0:53

my god, I got an email

0:56

from Rachel. Rachel

0:59

says Rosie, gorgeous, goooul

1:01

you Rachel. I

1:05

grew up in the Bay Area and was so

1:07

excited to hear you talk about the Haunted

1:09

Toys r US. Oh

1:11

my god. If you don't know

1:14

what we're talking about, go back listen to the

1:16

recent episode with rosebud

1:18

Baker where we talk about the

1:20

Haunted Toys r US that has turned

1:23

into an RAI. Okay,

1:25

back to Rachel. In the mid nineties,

1:29

when I was a small creepy child, my

1:31

mom and I tried to visit all the places

1:34

listed in the Haunted Houses

1:36

of California book that I

1:38

got at the Winchester Mystery

1:41

House gift shop. Oh

1:43

my God, if you've never been, where is that

1:45

San Jose up north in

1:47

California? Best gift shop ever?

1:51

And in that book was

1:53

the Sunny Veil Toys r Us. I

1:56

remember asking the cashier

1:59

at Toys r Us if she thought

2:01

that the store was haunted, and she

2:03

turned pale. She dropped

2:05

her voice and asked us seriously

2:08

if we were from the X Files. I

2:11

was eight years old and not a fictional FBI

2:14

agent. For the record, Eventually

2:17

we found a janitor at the toys

2:19

arrest who was willing to talk or

2:22

looking for an excuse to stop

2:25

mopping. He solemnly

2:28

nodded his head and gestured

2:30

down another aisle. The

2:33

janitor said, he's there.

2:36

Now. When you walk

2:38

through, every hair on

2:40

the back of your arms will stand

2:43

straight. But if I leave

2:45

him alone and he leaves

2:47

me alone, that's

2:49

that. Of course,

2:52

I go back down that aisle, and sure

2:54

enough, there's a cold spot, and

2:56

every hair on the back

2:59

of my arm stand straight

3:01

up. It's proven haunted.

3:05

Clink the ghost gabbl ras.

3:07

Oh, I got it right here. You're

3:11

great and a delight. My

3:14

wife and I were just watching the

3:16

Netflix documentary Outstanding. Oh

3:18

I'm in that and you saw me.

3:19

Oh,

3:21

this is so nice in here. Oh, I can't

3:23

wait to see you. Are you gonna come to the Twin

3:26

Cities anytime soon? Hey, funny

3:28

you say that, Rachel. I actually am. I'm

3:31

gonna be in Minneapolis in

3:34

May. All

3:36

those dates are on my Instagram. I

3:38

am going to so many cities, not talking

3:41

about ghosts, though I bet ghosts will probably

3:43

come up, but you know, basically

3:45

just talking about silly gay stuff.

3:47

But Alice, you come

3:49

on down too. It's

3:52

for gay people and allies and

3:54

it's just silly, not for children.

3:57

And yeah, I'm doing all these cities in May,

4:00

July, and August. Look

4:03

at the dates on my Instagram at roz

4:06

Hernandez. Oh. Another

4:08

place that you can look is a new

4:10

little web page I've started called Roshernandez

4:14

tour dot Com. Okay,

4:18

here we go, Doug Benson.

4:21

Time on with the show,

4:32

Doug Benson.

4:34

Yes, hi present.

4:38

I'm obsessed with your ghost where.

4:42

It's you know something I didn't have

4:44

to like pull this out of the back of the closet to

4:47

come beyond ghosted. I

4:50

really wear this stuff with some frequency.

4:52

I also have a hoodie sweater

4:55

that's got the ghost A nice white ghost right

4:57

in the center, and I almost wore

4:59

that, and I would have been too warm.

5:01

What's the company Ghostly Goods.

5:04

Ghostly Goods.

5:05

Yeah, and they are a fledgling cannabis

5:08

company in Florida where they won't legalize

5:11

it. So in the meantime,

5:13

he's making cool apparel for his company

5:16

that can't really move forward until

5:18

Florida gets their act together.

5:21

You don't smoke weed, dude.

5:26

I do all kinds of I bibe

5:28

it in many ways, but yes, smoking

5:30

is one of them, but.

5:32

It's not it's not legal in Florida. So

5:34

how do you how do people so people? That means people

5:36

don't do it in Florida.

5:37

No, they just do it anyway. It's

5:40

crazy, Like it's wild the places that you think

5:42

about, Like I was just reading today

5:44

about how Pennsylvania won't legalize

5:47

but all the states around them have

5:49

so like if you're living in Philadelphia, you just

5:52

go to New Jersey to get your weed

5:54

and then come back.

5:55

And so old school

5:58

at this point. Yeah, living in

6:00

LA it's like people are just smoking weed everywhere.

6:02

Yeah, and you

6:05

know in both markets seem to be working. You

6:07

know, like there's stores that are seem to be making

6:09

money, but people still have their

6:12

other ways to get it, you know, because

6:14

the stores are expensive, right

6:17

right, very pricey.

6:19

You kind of look like you're in like a

6:21

paranormal investigation group when

6:23

you first showed up. That's what I loved.

6:26

I should have been I should have some sort of like device,

6:29

some sort of detecting device.

6:31

Because for anyone not watching you're

6:35

you have a hat with a ghost on and

6:38

a jacket with a ghost

6:40

It.

6:40

Do look like I work for like a ghost exterminator

6:43

company.

6:47

Have you ever experienced a ghost?

6:50

I have not, to the best of

6:52

my recollection.

6:53

Do you believe in it?

6:55

It may have happened to me where I was blackout drunk

6:57

one time or two, but I do

6:59

believe in go because, first

7:01

of all, there's no reason to not believe in ghosts

7:04

that I can think of, because

7:06

some people have seen them, and

7:10

everything around us to me is a

7:13

strange miracle that like, why are there?

7:15

Why are there? People say, how could there

7:17

be ghosts? They say, how can there be people? How'd

7:19

that happen?

7:20

Okay, I mean.

7:23

Then there should also potentially be ghosts,

7:26

but I've never personally experienced it. And whenever

7:29

you know this doesn't happen a lot. But whatever.

7:31

I'm somewhere there where somebody says, don't stay at that hotel

7:33

it's haunted, don't go in that bar, it's haunted. Whenever

7:36

people call things haunted, I just that's

7:38

where you know, I'm gonna go check it

7:40

out. But you know, oftentimes

7:43

like during business hours, so it's like by

7:46

the light of day. So what's gonna happen?

7:49

What's a what's the place you've been that's

7:51

you know, like the Driscoll Hotel in Austin.

7:54

They won't stop about how haunted that thing

7:56

is, you know, all the people that like that

7:58

sort of thing, and

8:00

uh, you know, and I've been into the bar there.

8:03

I haven't I haven't stayed in a room there.

8:05

But every time I go to south

8:07

By Southwest, somebody that's staying in that hotel

8:09

will be like, yeah, there was a weird there's

8:12

weird bumping, right, you know, I

8:14

heard noises, right, And I'm like, you've

8:16

stayed at hotels where you don't hear noises.

8:19

I know.

8:20

That that is when I need to check out. Thanks

8:22

for reminding me of that, because

8:26

I'm really into going

8:28

to hotels that are haunted. I don't like to sleep

8:30

at them. If you tell me it's haunted, there's

8:32

no way amual sleep. But I like

8:35

to go poke my head around. Sure,

8:37

I get a little nosy.

8:39

Yeah, And they're probably an older hotel, so you

8:41

don't have to have a key to go up in the elevator

8:43

and stuff, so you could just go walk the halls.

8:46

So okay, what about I want to know your thoughts

8:48

about other things. Okay, like

8:51

UFOs.

8:53

Again, never experienced one,

8:55

but certainly not against

8:57

the idea. Not I'm not scarrett

9:00

of aliens because in

9:02

my experience, they've

9:05

had plenty of time to really

9:08

make a show of it, like to really do something

9:11

big and bad, right,

9:13

and it hasn't happened, So I can't

9:15

put too much concern

9:17

into it.

9:18

Right, And that's the thing. At this point,

9:21

it's like I feel like so

9:23

much crazy shit happens. That is

9:25

so I mean, I never would have thought

9:27

that the world would have closed down because

9:29

of a disease the way it did with COVID,

9:31

Like who knows what will

9:34

ever happen. So if a UFO came down,

9:36

I feel like we'd all be like if

9:38

you would have done this twenty years ago, we would

9:40

have really given you the reaction

9:42

you want. But right now we're just like,

9:45

okay, great, yeah.

9:46

Now there's other TV programs we'd

9:49

rather watch.

9:49

Yeah, exactly. Are

9:54

you a psychedelic person? Interesting?

9:58

Never never mess with any

10:01

I'm quite other than alcohol and uh

10:04

weed, I'm pretty straight, you know straight?

10:07

You know, No, I haven't. I haven't even tried

10:10

most of the drugs.

10:14

And I only like one time I got

10:16

to find out how momentarily

10:18

awesome morphine can be

10:21

because I went, you know, because it was in the hospital

10:23

with a kidney stone, and they gave me.

10:25

Oh

10:27

uh.

10:29

That was pretty I mean, I'm not hooked on it or

10:31

anything, but I could see the appeal.

10:33

Yeah, oh I got

10:35

a kidney stone. But we

10:39

talk often on this show about psychedelics,

10:42

people doing psychedelics and they,

10:45

you know, the things that they report seeing.

10:47

Is that just drugs

10:50

or is there something to it a

10:52

little supernatural?

10:54

I don't know. Yeah, I don't

10:56

know. But I was thinking

10:58

that between ghosts and UFOs

11:01

when somebody said, if someone said to me I saw a ghost,

11:04

I just pretty much believe that

11:06

they saw a ghost. But with a UFO, you

11:09

immediately go, are you sure it wasn't a frisbee

11:11

or a or you

11:13

know, or just a regular plane or

11:15

helicopter or you know, you know what I mean.

11:17

There's so many plausible explanations for when

11:20

people think they see a UFO, right, but

11:22

when they see it, when they say they saw a ghosts is

11:26

there a strong breeze, like you know what.

11:29

The very pale person that's not a ghost?

11:31

Yeah, because a breeze in and of itself could be

11:33

seem like a ghost if it like.

11:35

That's true, or just like

11:37

knocking or you know, sounds

11:39

that you hear. They can all be explained

11:41

away. But like my thing with

11:43

UFOs is, I don't know anything that's up

11:46

in the sky is so to me. I guess

11:48

it's like I don't know what all that. I guess

11:50

somebody can explain to you what

11:53

every little drone and

11:56

satellite. I don't know all that

11:58

shit is. Listen.

12:00

I went on this UFO tour a

12:02

couple of years ago in Sedona. I've

12:05

talked about this before, but as

12:07

time has gone on, I've

12:09

talked to more people about this tour and

12:12

people are like, those aren't UFOs,

12:14

Like those are some kind of elon

12:17

musk thing up there. Or like I don't

12:19

know something something that's not a UFO. I'm

12:21

like, I just paid this woman to show me

12:23

that stuff because we like went up we had

12:26

like these binoculars that see at nighttime,

12:28

and I was very convinced that

12:30

those are UFOs. But because I'm a dumb dumb

12:33

I don't know anything else.

12:34

She really is just scamming everybody, or do

12:36

you think she believes it and she's just

12:38

the silly pants.

12:39

Well, the thing that I always come

12:42

back to with this woman, so

12:45

I go on this tour. I tell

12:47

her, like, I have this podcast

12:49

we talk about aliens, and I would

12:51

love to have you on the show. This is after she

12:54

had already told me that she's been abducted multiple

12:56

times, she's been up there, they

12:58

know her. She was very

13:01

like she's known up there, okay,

13:04

according to her, So I'm like, I gotta

13:06

have this lady on my podcast. She

13:09

gave me her card, she gave

13:11

me her number, she gave me her email.

13:13

I tried multiple times. I

13:16

think she finally went up there and she's

13:18

never I think she's up

13:20

there exactly where she wants to be.

13:22

Because you know what else, the tour doesn't exist

13:25

anymore. Last time I was

13:27

there, I was trying to find the tour. I couldn't find

13:29

it. So she's up

13:31

there. In my opinion, she.

13:36

Got that big ride, but she.

13:41

I think that was her honestly, her goal the whole

13:43

time, and it worked out. So

13:45

I'm actually really happy for her. You

13:48

know, since we were talking about like how

13:51

you can explain away different things, I want to tell

13:53

you about this famous

13:56

story. And this is an old

13:58

story from England and so you

14:02

no could just be hearsay,

14:05

but apparently there are newspaper

14:07

articles about it.

14:10

It's the story of

14:12

scratching Fanny

14:15

of Cocklane.

14:17

I'll just run with some of the weirdest

14:20

names over there.

14:24

So this

14:26

story takes place on cock

14:29

Lane, which is

14:32

a narrow street that dates back

14:34

to the twelve hundreds.

14:38

Are you kidding me? And oh, by the way, I

14:40

got all this information from Historic London

14:42

Tours dot com. Okay,

14:45

So in seventeen fifty

14:48

nine there was a lone shark

14:50

named William Kent that moves

14:52

into an apartment on Cocklane with

14:56

a woman named Fanny Lines.

15:00

L Yes, Fanny Lines.

15:04

She's the sister of William

15:06

Kent's former wife.

15:09

I don't know what her name was, and

15:11

why is she out of the picture. Well,

15:13

she died during childbirth, but so

15:17

can in law prevented him

15:19

from marrying her sister. But the two

15:22

of them were in love. There was this man

15:25

named Richard Parsons who

15:28

offered his lodging

15:31

rooms on Coch Lane

15:33

to the couple, and so they

15:36

move in and strange

15:39

sounds and ghost sightings had

15:41

already been reported before they even got

15:43

there. And Kent and

15:45

Fanny they did not stick around

15:47

because Fanny got pregnant.

15:49

They're like, we can't have a child here. It's haunted.

15:52

So they move off, and

15:55

then a couple of weeks later, Fanny

15:58

got smallpox and she died.

15:59

Okay.

16:00

Also the guy that rented

16:03

the house to them, this Parsons guy, he

16:06

was he had debt that he needed to pay to

16:08

the man Kent, and

16:12

he ended up getting sued a

16:14

whole thing whatever. Okay, So anyway to the ghost

16:16

stuff. So

16:18

Fannylines is now dead. The

16:21

apartment where they were living all

16:24

of a sudden starts being haunted and

16:26

they think it's Fanny. Fanny

16:29

is scratching like crazy.

16:31

They're hearing scratching noises from Fanny

16:34

Lines. They

16:36

did seances. They had

16:39

local ministers. The

16:43

daughter of the man who lived there. She was

16:45

eleven years old and she was like the center

16:47

of all this, and they

16:50

would do this thing where they'd say

16:52

knock once for yes, twice

16:55

for no, and

16:58

from that they were able to conclude

17:00

that it was indeed Fanny.

17:04

She says that she was poisoned

17:07

by the man Kent. So

17:11

it says the earlier scratchings and ghost

17:13

sightings were determined

17:15

to be Fanny's sister. So

17:19

when Fanny was still alive, Fanny,

17:22

I'm gonna call her Fanny Senior, Big Fanny.

17:26

So big Fanny, the original sister

17:29

was haunting because she was trying

17:31

to warn Fanny, just

17:33

so you know that man's going to poison you. Okay.

17:38

So this is all

17:40

coming from these knock

17:42

once for yes. But at

17:44

this time in history people were taking

17:47

that kind of stuff seriously. So this

17:49

became a big news story.

17:52

And you know, I

17:54

have a lot of respect for this man, the man that

17:56

ran the place. He was in debt. He just got sued.

17:59

He decided he's going to start charging people

18:01

to come to come listen to Fanny

18:03

scratching. So all

18:07

kinds of people were coming, even the Duke

18:09

of York himself showed up

18:12

to hear scratching Fanny. Of

18:14

course, a lot of people are skeptical

18:17

of this, and blah blah

18:20

blah. Basically turns out it

18:22

was the little girl. She was just scratching

18:25

a piece of wood, so

18:30

there was no ghosts.

18:31

Sounds like, but she'd have to do it like,

18:34

especially once the tourists started coming through.

18:36

Yes places, everyone she

18:39

was scratching away and knocking on

18:41

a block of wood that she had

18:44

under her sheets in her bed, and

18:50

god, people were dumb back then was.

18:53

The girl behind the whole thing? Was her

18:55

idea?

18:56

Well?

18:57

Who?

18:58

It was highly speculated it

19:00

was her dad, because her dad

19:03

was got sued by the

19:05

man Kent okay,

19:07

the man who was married to Fanny and

19:09

Fanny senior. Okay, okay, So

19:12

Kent was a loan shark,

19:15

gave some money to this man and his eleven

19:17

year old daughter. Then he didn't pay the money

19:19

back, got suits. Now he's like really

19:21

in debt. So his idea

19:24

for how to make money back is to say

19:27

that the loan shark poisoned his wife

19:29

and now she's scratching my daughter's

19:32

bed and charge people

19:34

to come see it.

19:36

In a different time, that guy could have been like

19:38

a filmmaker or a producer.

19:40

Oh, nowadays, this would be a TikTok.

19:43

Put all that together to just make

19:45

it happen. Bring

19:47

a child into it.

19:49

This would be a TikTok nowadays. Like somebody

19:52

being like, there's a scratch in my house

19:54

and it won't go away, and then like Part seventeen

19:57

as them being like, and

19:58

now I'm finding out that it's

20:01

the wife who was poisoned, Like, please

20:03

this this this scam has been going

20:05

on for years. So basically he

20:08

was found guilty of making this whole

20:10

thing up. They let the They

20:12

let the eleven year old girl free

20:15

because they said she was under the influence

20:18

of her father. And he

20:21

was found guilty of conspiracy.

20:24

Even his wife was included in this and

20:27

three other people and he

20:30

was punished three days

20:32

in the pillory and

20:35

then two years in

20:37

prison.

20:38

What oh okay for

20:41

scratching. I thought the pillary was going to

20:43

be the worst part.

20:45

Oh no, it got worse, But I

20:47

don't the pillary.

20:49

So everybody in town could see the person

20:52

that like we've kept you know, they're going

20:54

to jail, so they have to suffer

20:57

for a few days in front of everybody. Oh

20:59

my god, is that how that works?

21:01

It says pillary is a wooden or

21:03

metal framework that's used

21:05

to publicly humiliate. Oh,

21:07

it's that thing where you put your arms through and your head

21:09

through.

21:10

That's like fun to do when you're like visiting

21:12

a western.

21:15

And you take a photo. Yeah,

21:18

but they fully had him in there, and

21:20

I'm sure there were people walking by going I'll

21:23

give you something to scratch. Hey,

21:26

scratch my fanny.

21:28

I think you could spin on him and stuff.

21:30

Oh that sounds fun. We need

21:33

to bring that back.

21:36

Yeah, that's crazy.

21:38

So there's mud in your eye.

21:40

But I just think that that feels extreme.

21:43

It does. Like when you said three days of that. I

21:45

was like, okay, well, if you can get through those three days

21:48

alive, then I guess it's

21:50

over. But then then then prison.

21:53

Then you have to go to prison for conspiracy.

21:56

But also it's like that's

21:59

slam dirt. You can't say somebody poisoned

22:03

his wife to death. She died

22:05

of smallpox, by the way, but

22:08

he's like her ghost is telling

22:10

me that she's poisoned. He poisoned

22:12

her. That's sketchy.

22:16

It's funny that they got so much

22:18

trouble for essentially,

22:20

like anybody just sets up a haunted house,

22:22

it says, you know, come through here,

22:25

it's haunted. And when it isn't, why aren't

22:27

they being arrested?

22:28

You know what, that's a great idea, that's how

22:30

great.

22:32

Nobody's suing that wasn't really haunted.

22:35

Yeah, those people, that's faulty

22:38

advertising.

22:39

I think maybe Disney killed somebody in

22:41

the haunted mansion when it was being constructed

22:43

to.

22:47

You know, they say there's real ghosts in there.

22:49

Why wouldn't they be If I was a ghost, that's

22:52

where I go. There's always a party

22:54

going on.

22:54

And that was absolutely and I'm sure.

22:56

Birthday, which I don't understand that concept.

22:58

You can like pop out and nobody would

23:00

know the difference. And you're just like you could just be yourself,

23:03

let your freak flag fly. Why

23:05

not?

23:06

I've never seen that ghost before, Daddy.

23:09

That ghost over there is new.

23:14

Can I show you a haunted doll?

23:16

Yes?

23:17

Please, it's time for the

23:19

dolls are living? Okay,

23:24

Doug Benson. Here's

23:27

what I do is I go to eBay

23:29

dot com and I type

23:31

in the words haunted doll. Now,

23:33

this is a big market

23:36

Okay. There's thousands of haunted

23:39

dolls for sale, and they

23:41

all come with little biographies. They're

23:43

very differently priced. There's

23:46

there's a haunted doll for anyone.

23:49

I'd like you to meet Mildred,

23:52

who is going

23:54

for fifty three dollars and ten

23:56

cents. Geehaw, can

23:58

you show us this haunted doll? You

24:01

got it? Ras there, she

24:04

Joe.

24:05

It would be such a jump scare.

24:08

Whoa she is

24:10

silly.

24:12

I always think of like kind of maybe a little scary

24:14

looking doll,

24:16

but this one is she looks

24:19

scared.

24:20

Yeah, this is a doll that

24:23

kind of has her eyes crossed and like

24:25

a poudy lower lip, and

24:28

she looks like something's definitely

24:31

wrong. Something is not right with

24:33

this doll.

24:34

I don't know what her terrible haircut.

24:36

Her hair is a mess.

24:39

She absolutely got that supercuts

24:42

by one geting free

24:44

and took the free one.

24:48

I think that face is pretty much maybe

24:50

the moment she saw that haircut, and.

24:53

Then she just froze like that forever.

24:55

Yeah. So

24:58

here's the bio. It says meat Mildred.

25:01

She's a down to earth spirit with

25:03

a real relatable vibe.

25:06

She's a bit frumpy and sometimes

25:08

comes off as a debbie downer,

25:11

but deep down she just craves genuine

25:14

friendship and a place to belong. Mildred's

25:17

spirit hails from a simpler time

25:19

when she worked a modest job at

25:21

a local store, always

25:23

willing to lend a hand whenever life

25:26

got her down. Blah

25:29

blah blah. Let's get to the good stuff here.

25:33

Here's some of the stuff you can you'll witness

25:35

if you if you buy her. Occasional

25:37

soft size and gentle grumbling

25:40

like she's musing about old times,

25:43

Subtle movements that hint she

25:46

might be looking around for someone to talk

25:48

to, and a quiet, lingering

25:51

aura of wistfulness

25:53

that fills the room during those calm

25:55

moments. She does the best

25:57

in a relaxed, no fuss

26:00

environment. She responds to a

26:02

cozy corner, a quiet conversation,

26:05

or simply sharing your day with her.

26:09

Yeah, that's pretty much about her. This is

26:11

definitely one that people listening go to

26:13

ghosted by Roz on Instagram

26:16

to take a look at her and her

26:19

bangs. Doug, can

26:21

I play you some ghost voices? Yes,

26:24

it's time for EVP

26:28

or ev pase

26:32

have you ever heard the term EVP?

26:35

I don't think so.

26:37

Electronic Voice Phenomena

26:40

show that's SPU.

26:43

This is EVP okay, So

26:47

basically, it's anytime somebody

26:49

captures a ghost speaking a

26:52

recording of it, honestly, with

26:54

your ghost uniform on today.

26:56

This is the kind of thing that you

26:59

seem like you would be capturing, Okay,

27:02

ghost saying something. So

27:05

I've got two of them for you. This

27:07

first one is from a

27:09

YouTube channel called m

27:12

T Paranormal Life.

27:15

What is it saying? I don't know where this

27:17

is. It's somewhere somewhere outside.

27:19

They captured this ghost speaking.

27:30

If somebody figured out.

27:32

The words, it's

27:38

so clear you can't tell.

27:39

I think, did I hear? Shut up? Is

27:42

that in there?

27:47

Yeah?

27:47

Shut up, you bitch.

27:50

Shut up, bitch, you bitch. Listen.

27:56

That's not a bad guy. I

27:58

gotta hear it. I think you were born

28:00

for this job, just for the

28:02

top you want. They

28:05

did not think it was shut up, bitch, you bitch?

28:07

Did they think it was a There

28:10

are demons? B

28:15

you are awful, so awful.

28:18

See I want waffles

28:21

please? Or d Robert

28:24

F. Kennedy Junior. Okay,

28:28

it's one of those. I mean it's

28:31

you think it's b you are awful,

28:33

so awful.

28:40

I don't know they.

28:41

Believe it is.

28:42

I don't hear that.

28:43

They think it's a there are demons.

28:46

Let's hear it again. With that in mind,

28:52

I can't sell.

28:56

That's exactly what I hear too. Now,

29:00

okay, here's one more. This

29:02

one is from Paranormal

29:05

Adventures. Uk h,

29:09

what is it saying, Doug? I don't know where

29:11

this is from either? Where are these? Okay?

29:14

Here we go. It's a British castle, probably

29:17

a castle. Okay,

29:22

this one's different. It's a little bit more whispery.

29:25

Oh, I see

29:29

sounds like a seal flapping around

29:31

in a grotto.

29:38

Did they think it was a Oh?

29:41

Look at her, that diva?

29:44

Do they think it was b I'm about

29:47

to be fainting. See,

29:50

don't look here painting

29:54

or d it's me Fanny

29:56

lines.

29:57

I'm back. I'm

30:01

gonna go and see because it's such weird, strange

30:03

sentence structure.

30:04

Don't look here painting. That is what

30:06

they thought. Okay, wait a sc let's

30:09

listen for that now.

30:14

I heard painting that time. Yeah,

30:16

but there's something there's another noise going

30:18

on this way.

30:19

Well yeah, yeah, yeah, no, there's definitely a seal

30:21

flopping around a grotto, and then

30:23

there's don't look now painting. It's

30:25

also happening.

30:26

Here it again? Please all

30:32

right?

30:32

Yes, it's like that movie Andre

30:35

Is that what it was called? The Seal movie from

30:37

the nineties. Yeah, that's happening

30:40

while somebody's whispering about a painting.

30:44

Let's do another thing here, o quark,

30:47

What about Bigfoot? What do you think?

30:49

I wish I wish there was a

30:51

big I wish we'd find him,

30:55

learn his likes and dislikes.

30:58

Well, he clearly doesn't like to be bothered.

31:00

If he is. No, I'm kind of happy

31:02

that. I'm happy with the idea

31:04

that there's a Bigfoot who's gotten away

31:06

with not being caught. That's

31:09

or you've seen for a long period

31:11

of time.

31:12

If that's true, that's

31:15

to commit to that and just give

31:18

the people just enough, just

31:20

a little, you know, not too much.

31:24

Wow, he shaves for the summer. Who knows.

31:27

That's interesting and that's a

31:29

new theory.

31:30

He walks, he walks abongst us.

31:33

Yeah, he probably.

31:37

Well apparently in here's

31:40

an article from November

31:43

of this past year. Uh, he was

31:45

seen in South Carolina. It

31:47

says here, according to a new report.

31:49

This is from UH the State,

31:53

which is not the company

31:55

group The the State dot

31:58

com is a local

32:00

news source. Okay. So

32:03

it says, according to a new report, the urban

32:05

legend also called Sasquatch

32:08

was seen on November second.

32:10

Now, there was a big football game going

32:12

on. It's between

32:15

football USC's

32:18

forty four and twenty home

32:20

game win over Texas A and

32:22

M. It says. The report makes no

32:24

mention of Bigfoot wearing any

32:27

game cocks apparel. I

32:30

think that's a local joke, a little hilarious,

32:32

yeah, commentary.

32:35

So anyway, it says a

32:38

witness that refers to himself as j

32:41

M identified himself

32:43

as a police officer. He

32:46

reported the sighting on November six

32:48

to Bigfoot Field Researchers

32:51

Organization, which was founded

32:53

in nineteen ninety five. Okay. Now,

32:56

this organization's founder,

32:59

whose name is Matthew Moneymaker,

33:02

he did a follow up investigation and found

33:04

that the report was indeed credible.

33:07

Oh okay.

33:07

He's also Moneymaker is also a co

33:09

host of the show Finding Bigfoot. Okay.

33:13

So basically the story is

33:16

that the witness says that he

33:18

was deer hunting and

33:20

he was sitting in a ground

33:23

blind is that a

33:25

hunting thing? I don't know.

33:26

I guess like a

33:28

almost.

33:29

Like a where you're hiding so that you could.

33:31

Yeah, like when you're like a trench in

33:34

the battlefield kind

33:37

of thing.

33:38

I don't like that. He

33:41

heard a loud, deep toned

33:44

grunt and a stomp

33:46

at the same time. Not a grunt. I

33:48

don't like grunts. He

33:51

turned around and he saw an approximately

33:53

seven to seven point five

33:56

foot tall, brown

33:59

human life shape through

34:01

all of the brush. It had

34:03

long brown hair, ape like

34:06

face, and long arms. I'm

34:08

a police officer and had no clue

34:10

what to make of it, he says. At

34:13

this point, as much as I didn't

34:15

want to admit it, I'm convinced I saw

34:17

bigfoot. That's

34:19

the thing with all these stories. Anytime it's a cop,

34:22

it's like, well, this person's a cop, they

34:24

wouldn't lie.

34:28

Something that I think they're

34:30

relying on with the story is the fact that the

34:32

guy's a cop, because

34:34

we get that with ghost stories too. All the time.

34:37

The cops came and they said

34:39

they also saw the thing, and it's

34:41

like, okay, well there cops, Like the cops

34:44

never lied, like whatever.

34:46

Not to get political, but

34:52

yeah, so bigfoot.

34:53

There sworn to, you

34:55

know, be honest. When they see anything unusual,

34:58

anything paranormal or Bigfoot.

35:01

Like definite off

35:03

the clock shooting.

35:05

They protect and serve, and serve. They

35:07

protect us from Bigfoot and

35:10

serve Bigfoot hot

35:12

lunch every day. I keep

35:15

if Bigfoot's not out there, then what are the police

35:17

protecting us from? So they work. They're

35:19

in cahoots. The police

35:21

and Bigfoot are working together to

35:23

keep us scared.

35:27

Big Foot. There

35:30

we go, Doug,

35:33

Yes, just a couple of rapid fire

35:35

questions and then I'll let you out of here.

35:37

Drink first.

35:38

I'm just curious your thoughts on a couple

35:40

of different paranormal

35:43

phenomenal Maybe it'll

35:45

inspire. Maybe you go, oh, actually I have

35:47

a story. Maybe not no pressure

35:51

psychics. Mm.

35:55

I think most

35:57

of them are running some scam,

36:01

But again I don't.

36:04

Sometimes it's pretty amazing the things psychics

36:06

will say. But you

36:09

know, I've never personally had an amazing

36:11

psychic experience.

36:12

Have you been to psychics?

36:14

I've tried it a couple of times. You know, I

36:16

get a carnival or like

36:21

Hollywood Boulevard or something like that, you know, getting

36:24

my palm red, you know, and sometimes

36:26

you also just meet somebody, especially

36:28

in La who says they know

36:30

how to read palms or do tarot cards,

36:33

so you mess with that. But that all just seems

36:35

like, you know, just sort of guesswork,

36:39

right.

36:40

What about Ouiji

36:43

boards?

36:44

I haven't had too

36:46

much success with a Wiji board. I haven't

36:48

ever really felt like I connected with

36:50

something. But people do seem

36:53

sure love to put their hand on there and push

36:55

it around, like

37:00

especially in a movie where they're like they'll put

37:02

their hands on and they're going hy e s.

37:04

Yeah, you know, like really quick,

37:07

like to me, if it's real, it's just gonna

37:09

be very subtle little movements. Yeah,

37:12

but again it's a bunch of people

37:14

with their hands on it that all have different

37:16

agendas.

37:19

Where are you from? My gun?

37:20

San Diego?

37:22

Okay, so did you did

37:24

you grow up with any local urban legends

37:27

or anything like that? Ooh,

37:30

there's like a scary road in San

37:33

Diego area that I can't remember

37:35

the story of, but it's like a scary

37:37

road where like there's like creatures

37:40

come out at night. I don't know one

37:42

of those things.

37:43

There's this one street by my high school

37:45

in uh the

37:47

El cahoone part of San Diego

37:50

where there's like this old

37:53

motel and it was just sort

37:55

of they put this freeway

37:57

in and it just sort of became like it's it's

37:59

a little area that was kind

38:01

of secluded, but we'd walk by it sometimes

38:04

to get to the high school. But everybody

38:06

would always talk about how it appeared

38:08

to be like there was a noose hanging from

38:10

a tree outside of this hotel.

38:13

So everybody had their own version of

38:15

what was going on with that. But I always just

38:17

felt like maybe it was just a branch or a piece

38:20

of rope that that kind

38:22

of looked like a noose, Okay, but

38:24

still just the idea of it is pretty,

38:27

uh, pretty scary.

38:29

That is spooky. I

38:31

know a lot of well see some

38:34

of the iconic haunted places in

38:36

San Diego. So there's the Whaley House. You

38:38

ever been there? Whaley House

38:40

is in like old town.

38:42

That sounds right.

38:43

It's been a minute since I've been there, but I feel like it's one of

38:45

those places where all the people that dress their dressed

38:47

like in the time period. Oh yeah,

38:50

and yeah, and they like give you like guided

38:52

tours.

38:53

It sounds familiar. It just sounds like something

38:55

I wouldn't have been into the

38:57

older I got and I don't know if high school.

39:01

Do you think they went on field trips to this place, like

39:03

a field trip, Yes, I might have. I

39:05

definitely went to like all the museums

39:07

in San Diego on field trips.

39:10

And every Halloween the Prehistoric

39:14

Museum would do a haunted

39:17

museum where you walk through the whole thing, but

39:19

the whole thing is already all

39:21

caveman statues, so

39:24

you turn off all the lights. Now you got a haunted

39:27

you know, a haunted house slash museum. But

39:30

I always thought that was such a weird thing to do in a

39:32

museum, is to take these pieces that are supposed

39:34

to be like educational or artifacts

39:37

and then just go, yeah, but just this is scary.

39:39

If the lights are.

39:40

Off, throw them in the pillory.

39:43

Yeah, I think I've been pillaried.

39:46

I think they had one

39:49

like in Williamsburg or something

39:51

when I went on a field trip to

39:53

Washington, d C. I think they had

39:56

because they have the people churning butter and stuff

39:59

like what you were just saying, say about

40:01

the Wailey House.

40:02

I'm obsessed with that kind

40:04

of thing.

40:05

So wild.

40:06

And then do you like see the person on their break, like on

40:08

their phone, or like smoking a cigarette.

40:10

Always smoking a cigarette.

40:16

Well, Doug, that's it, that's

40:18

it. That was it, quick

40:20

and easy. Yeah, where

40:22

do people find you? What's going on?

40:24

Do you?

40:24

Guys? I feel like you do like a bajillion different

40:26

things.

40:27

I do have a bunch of shows they do locally

40:30

in LA but also out on the road.

40:33

Benson Movie Interruption, Douglas Movies,

40:37

and Douglavesmovies. Dot

40:39

com is where all of my dates

40:42

are, so they can just go there and see

40:44

all the things I'm up to.

40:46

Wait, here's the question. What

40:48

about when people say a movie is cursed?

40:52

That's true? You know, people say that about some

40:54

of these.

40:54

Things they do, they say it about.

40:57

You know, I've seen lots of things be you know,

40:59

people say their cursed, you

41:01

know, for you know, one reason or another.

41:04

But like one that springs

41:06

to mind is the the Poltergeist

41:08

films. Yes, like somebody

41:10

from each Poltergeist film dies, but all

41:13

under different circumstances. So

41:16

you can either say that

41:18

that's the curse is spreading the wealth,

41:20

or you could say that it's just a

41:23

unfortunate coincidence. Do you know.

41:25

My favorite one is it's been a minute since I've talked

41:27

about this on the pod

41:30

A Tuk a Tuk

41:33

a t Uk Do.

41:34

You know about this is a movie?

41:36

It was a movie script. It was

41:39

a kind of

41:41

like a fish shot of water comedy

41:43

film script. I always

41:46

get this a little bit confused, but essentially it

41:48

was written for I

41:50

want to say, John

41:53

Belushi or John

41:55

Candy.

41:56

So both of those sound legit.

41:58

It was written for one of them, and it was a supposed

42:00

to be that he was like an indigenous

42:04

person from like Alaska,

42:06

and then he comes to America

42:09

and it's like he's trying to you know, it's a typical

42:11

like eighties comedy or whatever.

42:13

Yeah, like Robin Williams in

42:17

Moscow on the Hudson.

42:18

Very that so any

42:22

and they say that anybody

42:25

that was offered the role died.

42:28

Oh so that's why both those guys did die.

42:30

There's a whole long list of them that

42:33

they say, and even

42:35

the guy that wrote it has done interviews about it

42:37

before to confirm, but like

42:39

tons of people and

42:41

to the point where I think they just kind of shelfed it.

42:44

But it was like very strange.

42:47

I mean those were you know, Lucy

42:50

and Candy lived lived life pretty hard.

42:52

So if every other actor

42:55

they went after it for that role had the same

42:57

energy. I could see why they

42:59

were all young.

43:01

Yeah.

43:03

Well, on that note,

43:06

what a fun, fun finish.

43:08

Thanks for joining me. There's a there's

43:10

a movie script I would like for you to read. Oh no,

43:15

thank you so much to Doug

43:18

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43:21

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