James Adomian Scared a Ghost Away

James Adomian Scared a Ghost Away

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0:07

What's that at the foot of my

0:10

bed.

0:10

It's spooky, Joky, I'm really

0:12

sure it's dead. It's coming this way.

0:15

Wait a minute, and he I ghosted.

0:20

As nandaz

0:24

Plase.

0:26

Hey boo, it's

0:28

me Roz and welcome

0:31

to Ghosted by Roz

0:33

Hernandez, the podcast where

0:35

I talk to people that I like about

0:38

the paranormal. I

0:41

got to talk to my dear

0:44

old friend James

0:46

Odomian, who is

0:48

such a hilarious comedian,

0:50

an incredible performer, and

0:53

he is an impressionist and

0:56

uh, he's he's just the

0:58

best in the biz. And whether

1:01

you realize it or not, you've definitely heard

1:03

his voice in different you

1:05

know, cartoons, and he's

1:08

he's always on Jimmy Kimmel doing impressions,

1:12

and he's been doing these

1:14

impressions for years, and he finally

1:17

now has his first special

1:19

out, which you can watch on

1:21

YouTube. He'll tell you about that. So

1:24

I'm so happy to talk to him. Turns out he

1:26

also has a great ghost story and we

1:28

hear some of his famous impressions, so

1:31

that'll be coming at you soon. Let

1:33

me read you a ghost story real quick. This

1:36

one came to my email from Sammy

1:39

and Sammy is writing from the

1:42

United Kingdom. Sammy writes,

1:45

my father was a priest interesting

1:50

and for a while we lived

1:52

in a vicarage in Pentton,

1:55

Devon, Okay. This all sounds

1:57

very haunted. The local kids

2:00

all knew our house as the Haunted

2:02

house, and it seems they were

2:05

right. When we moved in,

2:07

the hallway light would flicker.

2:10

My parents chalked this up to faulty

2:12

wiring and called in an electrician.

2:15

They didn't find anything wrong. Over

2:18

the years we had wires and parts

2:21

and fuses replaced, and

2:23

the only explanation we ever got

2:25

from any electrician was everything

2:28

looks fine, that shouldn't be

2:31

happening. Weird. It

2:33

still flickered when we moved out nine

2:36

years later. The dogs

2:38

used to growl at empty corners,

2:41

the cats would hiss at seemingly

2:44

empty space. Then

2:46

there was the time we went out for the

2:48

day and when we got back all

2:51

the upstairs windows were

2:53

open. One Christmas, my

2:55

parents and my siblings were all in the

2:57

living room, and as I stepped in to join

2:59

them, one of my dad's Bibles

3:02

flew out of the bookcases

3:04

to my right and landed

3:07

open in front of me. On the

3:09

first page. Of the Book

3:12

of Revelations. My

3:14

dad never believed it was haunted. He

3:16

had blessed it when we moved in, so as far

3:18

as he was concerned, no ghost

3:21

could be there. Sammy,

3:24

Oh my god, thank you Sammy. I

3:27

love I love British ghost

3:29

stories. One of these days I'm going to get out there.

3:32

I really am just dying to go

3:34

to England and I want to go to some spooky

3:36

old places and do some shows

3:38

or something. One of these days is let's manifest

3:41

that maybe for this new year that's

3:43

about to happen. I am going

3:45

to be doing some shows very soon. I

3:48

am about to be in New

3:50

York City at Littlefield

3:52

in Brooklyn. I'm doing Ghosted

3:54

Live. That's the eighth Sunday,

3:58

and then I'm going to go to Helium

4:01

in Portland on the eleventh

4:03

Wednesday, and Seattle. I'm

4:06

going to be at the hereafter on the thirteenth

4:08

doing Ghosted Live and stand

4:11

up that night. So get everything

4:13

at linktree dot com,

4:15

slash roz Hernandez. Okay,

4:18

let's talk to James Adomian

4:20

and the many voices that go

4:22

with him and with the show.

4:29

Oh my god, we have a real voice

4:33

over professional A

4:35

recording a recording artist.

4:38

I'm gonna say, James

4:40

Adomian.

4:41

Thank you, Oz. It's great to be here.

4:43

You've already explained to us how microphones

4:45

work.

4:46

I admire your sure sm seven

4:48

B. It's a good microphone.

4:49

Thank you. That's exactly

4:52

right. Studios for you, they get the best

4:54

of the best. Well, you do a lot of cartoons

4:57

and stuff like.

4:58

That, and a lot of them here in Bourbonk. It's I've said

5:00

this before that Burbank is where half the

5:02

cartoons in the world are made

5:04

in the city of Burbank. Oh

5:06

interesting because there's Disney and Nickelodeon

5:09

here and Cartoon Network, Warner Brothers,

5:12

all kinds of stuff.

5:13

Up here, and there's like independ

5:15

in studios. My favorite

5:17

part of Burbank is that there's what

5:19

I call chicken bone stores, which

5:21

are like there's like quite

5:23

a few on Magnolia, like these stores where

5:25

you get like a necklace, but

5:28

it's a hamster's claw,

5:30

Like it's like weird.

5:32

Like one off stores.

5:34

Yeah, my audience loves that kind of stuff.

5:36

I I attract the chicken bone

5:39

necklace audience that loves

5:41

like a repurpose like a they'll

5:43

sell like a taxi dermied mouse. But

5:45

it's like on a stripper pole.

5:47

Burbank has these little shops.

5:50

It's it's oddly walkable yet

5:52

both car oriented and so it's designed

5:54

for people to like park and then

5:57

walk around a block or two and like go to some.

5:59

Places totally and you stumble

6:01

upon a chicken bone place

6:03

and then a gun store.

6:05

Yes a story weird because there's

6:08

like a comic book store that has liberal comedy

6:10

shows and then across the sheet street is like you

6:13

don't tread on me guns yep,

6:16

bourbon gun.

6:17

Ammo got Burbank.

6:21

So, James, I'm so excited you came

6:23

out here. I've known you for a minute.

6:26

I have.

6:28

I've never heard your ghost stories, but

6:30

I hear that you have one.

6:32

I do have one.

6:33

Do you believe?

6:34

So I don't believe, and yet I

6:36

do.

6:36

Okay, Lissa, I'm like that too. I've

6:39

got a lot of these where I'm like, I

6:41

don't know, but it happened.

6:43

Yeah. I always try to search for an

6:46

explanation that, you

6:48

know, if possible. One

6:50

thing is I don't rule things out where it's

6:52

like, who am I to tell someone that they didn't see something?

6:54

You know? I wasn't there, you know, sure

6:56

you could have perceived something the wrong way, but also

6:58

yeah, it was right next to him military base. Maybe it

7:01

was just airplanes, right, secret

7:03

airplanes.

7:04

And yeah, that's why your house was shaking.

7:06

That time, right. And

7:08

some of it sure is like maybe

7:11

sleep deprivation and you're seeing things

7:14

or share different states of consciousness.

7:17

But there's also a thing where it's like ignorance

7:20

is bliss, like okay for me when

7:22

it comes to UFOs, I don't

7:24

know about any kind

7:26

of planes, helicopter, I don't know anything.

7:29

So to me, a lot of things are unidentified

7:31

flying objects.

7:33

To be fair, ignorance

7:36

in your case is terror. Yes,

7:42

d SR seventy one blackbird

7:44

might as well be a creature from

7:46

beyond?

7:47

Is this Vincent Price?

7:50

How could I resist?

7:52

I love Vincent Price? I want

7:54

his cookbook.

7:55

I have one, he has several

7:58

h it's one of my prized possessions. Someone

8:00

gave it to me. It's god, I

8:02

should have thought to cut that out. Don't let

8:04

them think they're missing something. No, no, no, it's fine,

8:06

I'll bring it next time. It's it's

8:09

a Mary and Vincent Price's

8:11

cookbook. And it's like a survey of

8:13

a history of American kitchen.

8:16

Well he also do you know about his Witchcraft

8:18

album?

8:20

Uh?

8:20

No, Yeah, he has

8:23

an album that I have an eBay

8:25

alert on that. I

8:29

don't want to make anyone that's listening like want to

8:31

go out and buy it for me. Don't don't do that. That's fine.

8:34

I've heard an album of his, but

8:36

I don't think it's that one. Unless that's the only

8:38

one.

8:38

We won't be able to play it. But there is clips

8:41

online.

8:43

It's called let Me see

8:46

Vincent Price Witchcraft

8:50

Magic an Adventure in

8:52

Demonology.

8:53

An Adventure in Demonology.

8:55

And there are excerpts that you can hear online

8:57

of him explaining

9:00

demonology. It's from

9:02

nineteen sixty nine. It's so cool,

9:04

oh my god. And it has like the track listing.

9:07

Here's track number two,

9:09

Preparation for.

9:10

Magic, Preparation for Magic,

9:14

side to.

9:15

Track one, which tortures

9:18

the world of spirits and debons.

9:21

I love it.

9:22

It's so funn Let.

9:23

Me make up, Let me make up. I'm gonna imagine

9:25

a couple of them. Chapter

9:27

the fourteenth, the Necromancers

9:29

strikes once again.

9:31

Wait, that's actually not wrong. Well,

9:34

side three, Track one, How to Communicate

9:37

with the Spirits Yep, Gerald

9:39

York and necromancy.

9:42

Oh my god, I skipped the head too far.

9:44

Yeah, you're not off, which

9:47

I kind of relate to him because I maybe

9:49

I'm wrong. I don't know his full bio, but I feel like

9:51

he was just an actor that did

9:54

a couple of spooky things and then before you knew it, he's

9:56

like, Okay, I guess I'm just gonna teach

9:58

people about demonology.

10:00

One of the jokes I made in the early days was when I used

10:02

to do Vincent Price a lot, I was like, I

10:04

was like, did a sketch where I was like speaking

10:07

to the homeowners Association and I

10:09

was like trying to get them not to condemn the mansion.

10:12

And I was like, I assure you, I

10:14

am not a madman, merely

10:16

an actor who has played a madman his

10:19

entire life and is now quite

10:21

completely done with that lifelong

10:23

role.

10:24

There's no escaping that for

10:26

us when we see him or hear him.

10:28

I used to see him as a child, always

10:30

on TBS, when TBS

10:33

during the daytime only showed like terrible

10:35

black and white movies, and then

10:38

he was in the ads because he was still alive

10:40

in the eighties, So he was in ads

10:43

for all kinds of stuff.

10:45

You would see him in an ad where he was making fun

10:48

of himself basically, and he'd be like, mildew

10:50

horrible, mildew stains Hylex

10:53

brand tile cleaner kills, mildew

10:56

did Okay.

11:00

So back to you though, So

11:04

you like to rule out if it's a ghost

11:06

or not, You like to rule

11:09

out any possibilities.

11:10

Well, yeah, I hope keep in mind open.

11:13

Uh, it's possible that there's

11:16

just simply other dimensions here that

11:18

are existing at the same time. Also,

11:20

you know, so there's things that are

11:23

only perceived if you are

11:26

sleep deprived or brain injured

11:28

or stressed out or something

11:30

like that. Or what do you think we're usually apathetic?

11:32

What about if someone's like drunk

11:35

or high. Do you think that that helps to.

11:37

No, I mean nothing helps.

11:41

Is that a good thing?

11:42

I mean, look, the brain can play tricks on

11:44

itself too, And so I generally am I

11:46

generally am like agnostic about

11:48

a lot of things. So sometimes

11:52

something's just an interesting story,

11:55

and it's really like the belief that makes

11:57

it interesting, the fact that anyone believes

11:59

in it, whether you do or not. Right, right,

12:02

this is the this is the trick of the campfire story.

12:05

I suppose that is what what I

12:07

really have learned over these years is like,

12:09

like, I'm more focused about the on the people

12:12

that are telling the story. That that, to me

12:14

is what's so fascinating.

12:16

That can be fun where you start

12:18

people watching the uh, the

12:20

person delivering the story. Yeah,

12:22

is it a faulty narrator, but

12:25

still.

12:25

Like I mean, especially when you hear a story

12:27

that's like this scientist

12:30

says that he was in a haunted house,

12:33

right, I'm like, well, if you're a scientist, you

12:35

can't be lying.

12:36

Well, sure you can. This is the trick

12:38

though scientists. Scientists

12:41

can make mistakes, and sometimes

12:44

this happens a lot in the world of like quack

12:46

science, where someone has like an

12:48

accomplished scientific career and then

12:50

they're like, well, aside from that, they

12:53

use their credentials from that to be like, well, this,

12:55

this, this, and this actually

12:58

weird.

12:58

You say that because there's kind of something I

13:01

wanted to talk about later in the show that's

13:03

similar to that sort.

13:04

Of Yes, the delimitation between

13:07

science and madness itself.

13:08

Wait, who is that?

13:09

I'm just doing a you know, a

13:11

sensational voiceover.

13:13

Guy, God,

13:15

you're fun to be around. There's not

13:17

just one person. There's a lot in there.

13:20

One never knows the realities

13:22

that can come to the foreground when one

13:25

enters ghosted the podcast.

13:27

Okay, that sounded so cool.

13:29

Use it clip it.

13:30

Can you do a

13:32

Liberaci because we have this Liberaci

13:35

doll?

13:35

I mean, I don't know, it's a little I

13:38

don't know if I'm gonna do it. Justice It's okay. TV

13:40

did a pretty damn good Liberaci.

13:42

Right, Well, it's actually not

13:44

far off from Vincent Price. I feel in

13:47

like some ways, like I think it's a similar

13:49

tone. But anyway, Okay,

13:52

so tell me a story.

13:54

There's one main ghost story that I do classify

13:56

as a possible ghost story because I have no other explanation

13:59

except two or three possible things that could deflate

14:01

the whole thing.

14:02

I'll judge.

14:03

Sure. I

14:05

lived in a house I rented it along

14:07

with six other people.

14:10

Where was this Hollywood boom

14:13

boom? When

14:16

was this two thousand, two

14:20

thousand and nine or ten?

14:22

Okay, so the year I moved here.

14:24

Yeah, so this was We lived in a large

14:27

house with a bunch of people that were in a sketch

14:29

group. Together and I was old

14:31

it wigs everywhere exactly,

14:34

wigs and fake guns, you know, the

14:36

perfect place for a murder. And

14:40

there was a It

14:42

was one night and everyone's Usually

14:45

it was a loud, sort of always constant

14:47

party place, but this was I don't know what time of year

14:49

it was. Maybe people had gone away for Thanksgiving

14:52

or something, and so it was

14:54

a relatively quiet night at the place. This

14:56

is over on Wilton anywhe

14:59

bum bum Wilton.

15:02

See, so

15:05

this is not Hills, This is like the

15:07

city.

15:08

Yes, this is the city. Is near Wilton

15:10

in Hollywood, Wilt North Wilton Place.

15:14

The house still stands, but not for long.

15:16

It's all boarded up and I'm afraid they're gonna tear it down.

15:19

It was a big old house and it turned one hundred years old

15:21

while we were living there, old old

15:23

craftsman house falling apart and.

15:26

Saying it will be an ugly hotel.

15:28

Fortunately probably something like that. Yeah,

15:31

I wasn't there alone, but it was such a big house. There

15:33

was like, you know, there was only a couple people around at

15:35

the times. It was me and maybe you know, two

15:38

out of the many people who lived there. And

15:40

it was late at night, and I had fallen asleep.

15:43

Now, the TV also was not on. I

15:45

remember this because you know, like you don't fall asleep with

15:48

the TV on. It might the electromagnetism

15:50

distracts the mind from

15:52

other forces that might be trying to communicate with you.

15:55

Yes, so it was. It was

15:57

just totally quiet, and I had fallen asleep

15:59

downstairs. I

16:02

was not in

16:04

my MI. I was drunk all the time

16:06

back then, but I can't say I was particularly

16:09

drunk.

16:09

Okay, just mildly

16:11

drunk.

16:12

Maybe just the baseline level of at a

16:14

few beers. But I was spending twenty nine or

16:16

thirty years old, and so I passed

16:18

out on the couch. But I did that a lot. It's

16:20

not just like for me. That wasn't like a wasted

16:23

drunk thing. Very often, I would like read

16:25

a book or you know whatever,

16:27

just be doing something and fall asleep.

16:29

I love sleeping on a couch.

16:31

It's hardwired into me because of

16:33

unfortunately comedy touring.

16:36

I did so much of it when I was young that

16:38

I find it comforting at certain

16:40

times. So I sleep

16:43

on my couch at home now, and I have a bed, and

16:45

I don't always sleep on the couch, but it's just a perfectly

16:47

valid place where I.

16:48

Sleep sometimes totally.

16:51

I'm now forty four years old. I

16:53

still am like have in my mind where

16:55

it's like, yeah, you know, you got to crash out. You

16:57

know, you never you got to crash out and wake

16:59

up early.

17:00

But it's amazing if you have the ability

17:03

to fall asleep place. Because now, because I'm

17:05

such a couch sleeper, if I am like in a

17:07

green room and I have an hour, I can like

17:10

just fall right asleep.

17:11

Of course you can't, yes.

17:12

But I have a giant circle shaped

17:14

nineteen sixties bed.

17:16

I used to, Oh my god.

17:18

I sleep on the couch because I just

17:20

like it.

17:21

The beds for special occasions. I suppose

17:24

I used to have

17:26

a round bed, and I regret so much that

17:28

I had to get rid of it when I moved from LA

17:30

to New York. Briefly, I couldn't

17:32

get it anywhere, store it anywhere,

17:34

and I kept the cover and

17:37

then kind of just rolled

17:39

the foam into the street down the way and it's

17:42

like, bye bye, I'm going to New York.

17:43

And I found it that day.

17:45

But maybe you did. A round

17:48

bed is such a beautiful thing.

17:50

It's like no one has them, and they're so fun

17:52

to hang out on and like have lorech of pillows

17:55

piled up.

17:56

Wow, I'm trying to become polyamorous because

17:58

I could fit like literally four

18:00

people in this bad.

18:01

And people love it. People round beds. That's

18:03

like the greatest Deproallysia. Yeah,

18:09

so I was not sleeping in my round bed, which I did

18:11

have at the time upstairs. I

18:14

was downstairs, fell asleep on the couch.

18:17

It was about three

18:19

or four in the morning. It was like it was

18:21

like the dead of night, nothing

18:24

happening. There was not

18:26

a lot of lights on. Uh maybe

18:28

there was like a light on in the kitchen or something,

18:30

but it was like it was just it was kind of nice

18:33

and quiet. It's also worth noting it was not complete

18:35

dark. You know, it was somewhere between, somewhere

18:37

between light and dark.

18:39

You're really you're really giving us these

18:42

these details. I feel like this is

18:44

I'm scared of it.

18:45

It might let you down. There was a

18:47

presence, m

18:53

do you like that? Do you like my dubstep horror

18:55

movie soundtrack? Dubstep

18:58

music seems to have gone out of fact, should accept

19:00

it's thriving in the world of horror

19:03

movie soundtrack.

19:03

Exactly, and

19:06

then they just slow down a famous

19:08

song, you know, like that's

19:10

what they always do these days.

19:13

Help I need somebody,

19:16

yes, exactly.

19:18

And that's all we can use is.

19:19

That there was a presence that was standing

19:21

over me from behind

19:24

the back of the couch, but leaning right

19:26

over and because

19:29

it was you know, the couch had the back open

19:31

in the room, you know what I mean, not against the wall. So

19:34

there was this presence standing

19:36

like a tall person looking

19:38

down at me, and it

19:40

felt like I was touched. It felt like

19:42

somebody touched me and was trying to wake me

19:44

up. And I woke up

19:47

and for a second was like who did

19:49

that? And then noticed

19:51

that no one was there, and then thought someone

19:53

was hiding behind the couch and I was like what

19:55

and no one was there, and

19:58

then I realized the present was

20:00

still there. Not hard

20:03

to describe this, not like visible

20:06

like in a Scooby Doo cartoon, okay,

20:10

not someone where I could have pulled

20:12

it off and would

20:14

have. I would have gotten my way with it if it weren't

20:16

for you.

20:17

Yes, that was Liberaci.

20:20

You had actually usually And

20:23

then I realized it wasn't

20:26

going away, and I was awake no,

20:29

yes, I yelled

20:32

very loudly, you got the fuck

20:34

away from me. And

20:36

I jumped up over the couch and sort

20:38

of ran and pushed this

20:41

presence, this energy as hard as I

20:43

could back up against the wall. And

20:46

then it was.

20:46

Gone, Okay, that

20:48

is a man right there.

20:51

Me that was oh,

20:53

I'm just a queen.

20:54

You ran towards it.

20:57

I did run towards the ghosts, but then

20:59

it disappeared. But then there was this it

21:01

wasn't like audibly laughing at me, but there

21:03

was this like energy of like, haha,

21:06

didn't get me, and it was gone.

21:08

First of all, that ghost should not be

21:10

cocky, because it did leave,

21:12

like you did get it away and

21:15

you went right up to I bet you that ghost

21:17

over It's many years of being a ghost has

21:20

always had people run

21:22

screaming. Listen, I've heard thousands

21:24

of these stories. People don't run towards

21:26

it.

21:27

Well, This was a house that

21:30

had been lived in by many, many, many

21:32

many people since like nineteen eleven or

21:34

whatever when it was, or nineteen thirteen, whatever

21:37

it was. It was a big, big

21:39

house, so lots of different people, like families

21:42

and like it had at one time been

21:45

lodging for seminary

21:47

students for the Catholic Church trying to be

21:49

priests. It had been inhabited

21:51

by a couple of different groups of like

21:54

hippies in the sixties and seventies that

21:56

you had at different times used it as a

21:58

commune and a

22:01

couple of different Like I know, there's a screenwriter,

22:03

Josh Olsen, who actually lived there in a

22:05

different time than I did, who told me some of the stories

22:08

about it later on.

22:09

Did that did he have any uh?

22:11

I haven't asked him that. It's a good question. But

22:13

also, oddly enough, it's no, this is not

22:15

necessarily remarkable because Charlie Chaplin

22:17

lived is famous for living in many plates

22:20

places. You lived everywhere, He lived everywhere.

22:22

It's one of the places that Chaplain lived in.

22:24

Also, did this guy just like

22:26

do a week here, do a week there? Because

22:28

I swear to God that is how it is that and

22:31

Marilyn Monroe lived here.

22:33

I think it's because they

22:35

didn't. They hadn't invented like gates

22:37

for houses back then, so if you got if people

22:40

found out that a famous person was there, you had

22:42

to be like, well, we're moving.

22:43

Ah okay, that makes sense.

22:45

It is not wrong about that that could be.

22:46

I thought, you're gonna say he would just walk into

22:49

houses and live there because there wasn't a gate.

22:51

Los Angeles was so new that the hedges

22:53

hadn't had time to grow up, so they were there

22:55

were like these little tiny bushes everywhere. It

22:59

didn't protect you.

23:00

So if you were to guess what

23:02

that was, I mean, what what what

23:05

would you think? Do you think it was a spirit

23:07

of a I did a priest?

23:09

Did a priest come visit you in the middle of the night?

23:12

Yeah, and I didn't. It didn't seem malicious.

23:14

It seemed in hindsight, I felt

23:16

a little bit guilty, like maybe I should have given

23:19

the ghost a chance.

23:20

Yeah, that could have You guys could have done a comedy

23:22

duo, because I thought.

23:23

Maybe they just wanted to reach out and chat

23:25

and hang out or be like, hey, you're

23:28

an impath, you can see

23:30

me, you know. And I maybe

23:32

overreacted. So I thought about

23:34

it, and I looked it up, and I talked to some people, and

23:36

I then after that

23:39

up in my room, I lit a candle

23:42

a couple nights in a row and put out some whiskey

23:45

and like said some nice

23:47

intentions where it's like you know, I'm

23:49

sorry, you know, hang out, but don't don't

23:51

try to scare me. Yeah, you know, a negotiation.

23:54

Yeah, totally give it some whiskey. It'll

23:56

be fine.

23:58

And that's been my policy now

24:01

since then. If I was in like there was a

24:03

there was a theater that had there's lots

24:06

of theaters that are haunted, but there was one in particular. I used

24:08

to hang out it a lot. The cook in the Cave in New

24:10

York and other

24:12

places where I know that where there's a story that there's

24:15

a spirit, you know, whether I see it or not. Sometimes

24:17

I'll just be like, hey, how you doing?

24:19

Or give it whiskey.

24:21

You know it's expensive. You don't want to just be wasting.

24:23

You can't just give whiskey. Yeah, it's

24:25

like it's not Santa with milk and cookies.

24:27

Also, some of the some of the ghosts are like, thank

24:30

you, I've had too much over the centuries.

24:31

Yes, So

24:34

of those other people that lived there

24:36

when you lived there, did they ever have

24:38

stories?

24:39

I don't think so. I'd have to consult them one by

24:41

one to interrogate them about.

24:43

But it wasn't a well known like

24:45

we all know there's the ghost in the living room.

24:47

No, but there I guess there were people

24:49

who had been like it was constantly,

24:51

did you guys hear something or hear some or not hear

24:53

something because there was so many people in the house

24:56

and it was kind of a party place. I would

24:58

only think of this as remarkable because I

25:00

was alone and no one was around. No, like there was

25:02

no one. There was this giant, like

25:04

one large room on the first floor kind

25:07

of with no doors, and there's no there was no

25:09

one around.

25:09

That's a really hard environment to live

25:12

with that many people.

25:13

Uh, maybe I was just stressed out.

25:15

Well, what I'm saying is like to note there's a

25:18

ghost or not, you know, because it's

25:21

like, why are there dirty dishes?

25:23

And the it was a ghost like the ghosts?

25:25

Yeah, exactly.

25:27

Also, you know, I do have vivid dreams sometimes,

25:29

but I don't think this was that because

25:34

my dreams are different. I don't have physically

25:36

imposing dreams. Is that a

25:38

way to Yeah, I don't have dreams that

25:40

feel like somebody's hovering over me and

25:43

poking me. Yeah, I have adventure

25:45

dreams that I and I try to write them down when I wake

25:47

up, But it's a very different sort of like mindscape

25:51

the dreams that I have compared to this

25:53

sensation.

25:54

I'm just so impressed

25:56

by you the way you handled that

25:59

that is insane.

26:01

That I was like, well, that's

26:04

probably the peak of my young

26:06

life at the age of you know, twenty nine

26:08

or thirty, probably the peak of my ability

26:11

to yell at yell at anything and

26:13

be able to back it up in any way.

26:15

That it's really it's very impressive.

26:18

Are you. Are you single at the moment?

26:21

Sure? I don't know

26:23

how to answer that.

26:23

These days ballas if you

26:26

are looking for someone that will scare a ghost

26:28

off in the middle of the night. I mean, that's

26:30

impressive. That's what I'm looking for.

26:32

Well more, I've learned since then

26:35

to maybe not try to scare them off,

26:37

but just try to like be like, Okay,

26:40

here's a treat, go on your way. Yeah,

26:42

I think sometimes I think about it, and I

26:44

was like, I was too mean.

26:48

I think it's fine.

26:49

It's probably fine. They're dead anyway, right,

26:51

they're already dead. I mean, it's

26:55

not like it's the worst is they're going to

26:57

be disappointed.

26:57

I lost a friend, Yeah, but you

27:00

know, it made a good story though.

27:02

It did, And I do think

27:04

about it sometimes and I can't

27:06

recall that it's happened since

27:08

then. It was a maybe a unique

27:10

thing to that house, or you

27:13

know.

27:13

Sometimes what I've learned from here in these

27:16

stories. Sometimes it's not even connected

27:18

to the place. It's like, who

27:20

knows, somebody threw a ghost at you

27:23

when you were walking down the street. You

27:25

picked one.

27:26

Up somewhere, sure, who knows?

27:28

Who knows, right,

27:30

And it was just a one time.

27:32

It's like a video game in that way.

27:33

And that poor ghost was like, okay, never

27:36

mind, God sorry, Yeah,

27:40

the.

27:40

Ghost is like I just wanted to know if I could have

27:42

some of your cheeses.

27:45

So I was thinking

27:47

we could do something fun and interesting

27:50

and unique and different that we've never done on the

27:52

show.

27:53

I usually have a.

27:53

Strict real no impressionist, but

27:56

there's.

27:56

One why why

27:58

of all the we have so few rules

28:01

here?

28:02

I'm just kidding. You're definitely

28:04

my favorite impressionist.

28:06

Well, thank you, it's an honor to be here.

28:08

No, I've always loved your impressions

28:10

so much, And if

28:12

anyone has the opportunity to see

28:14

James live, it is such

28:17

a fun experience

28:20

to watch all the different people

28:22

you embody.

28:24

Funny enough there are opportunities

28:26

to see me live.

28:26

Stay tuned, okay, yes, make

28:29

sure you're listening. People.

28:32

I list some of those on my website and I'll recount

28:34

them at the appropriate.

28:35

Hour, please. So I was

28:37

trying to think of you

28:39

know, Wikipedia gave me a couple

28:41

of names that you've you're famous

28:43

for. I was, you know, I

28:45

was thinking from my own experience of being

28:48

a fan. Over all these.

28:50

Years, we've done so many things together

28:52

in the show business on the boards,

28:54

you know, we've really such a

28:57

oh dear old friend.

28:59

Really really, so, I was

29:01

thinking, maybe some of those people have

29:03

ghost stories. So

29:06

I found let me see here, I found one,

29:09

two, three, four that

29:13

have ghost stories.

29:15

If you're down, did that you've looked this up?

29:17

That these they actually have them?

29:19

Honey, I was spending time. I was

29:21

going Mike Lindell ghost

29:24

story. Literally, my Google history

29:27

is like Eddie

29:29

Pepatone Aliens.

29:30

I were stuffed into a trunk of a link

29:32

of toe car in Minneapolis.

29:35

I let me tell you, it was ten am before they open

29:37

it up, and I had ghost a whole time bumping her out

29:39

and hight her spare tires.

29:42

That's more than what I found. There

29:45

was no Mike Lindell ghost story.

29:47

Right, is the ghost story?

29:49

He is the ghost story and you could see

29:51

him.

29:51

I would have gotten away with it. Two if it weren't for you durt

29:54

meddling kids.

29:55

If you ever see him on Jimmy Kimmel Live,

29:57

that is jameson Doomia.

29:58

Yes, that's I'm the my a little guy on Jimmy

30:00

Kimmel.

30:01

Uh So if I give

30:04

you some names, would you be willing to give us

30:06

a little idea of what that might.

30:08

So yeah, let's try. Let's guess. Let's guess the

30:10

ghost story, right, Okay?

30:11

Do you want me to tell you like a prompt

30:14

like where it was?

30:15

Or um? Sure? Yeah?

30:17

Okay?

30:19

Paul Giamadi, Yeah, well,

30:21

while uh playing

30:24

Hamlet.

30:25

Of course, there it is. I

30:27

was. I was

30:30

cast in the role of Hamlet. I cashed myself

30:32

because well, let's face it, I've been

30:34

middle eight since I was fucking born.

30:39

But there was a coach.

30:39

I was playing Hamlet. I was doing all the parts

30:42

myself, and what do you know, I forgot the lines. I

30:45

was bombing bombing as the tortured

30:47

Prince of Denmark and

30:49

then well, what do you know, fuck me? It turns

30:51

out I was right there on stage and I

30:54

said a last poor yorick, and I was holding

30:56

the skull up and then it started talking back

30:58

to me. He

31:01

said, litten, fuck face, you're not pushing tickets,

31:06

and I said, that doesn't scam with Shakespeare's.

31:08

Portfolio, honestly,

31:11

not far off. This

31:14

is what scares me about when we perform

31:16

in these haunted theaters, Like

31:19

I always think about if I saw a ghost

31:21

when I'm on stage, like that would destroy

31:23

me, like the fear of

31:26

like, oh my god, I still have to do, especially like a scripted.

31:29

Time I was on

31:31

stage. This wasn't a ghost, but like

31:34

from the back of the room. I was on stage at

31:36

this comedy theater and they had all

31:38

these like pop culture things that you know, very

31:40

often you're on stage and you've got like a picture of Richard

31:42

Pryor and Bill shit that you have to

31:44

ignore while you're doing comedy. But

31:47

this one they had all these like pop culture characters and

31:49

straight in the back directly facing

31:52

me was a giant wizard

31:54

Gandolf as played by Ian

31:56

McKellen. The

31:59

whole time there was the Scandolf staring

32:01

at me from the back of the room like do

32:03

you really think that was entertaining.

32:08

Yeah, I so,

32:11

Paul jam The skull did not talk back to him,

32:13

but it was his dagger, so.

32:16

He a very short

32:18

and small dagger.

32:19

Okay, the dagger did not tug

32:22

back to him, but.

32:22

You know what's a delicate dagger. It's not a great

32:25

weapon, but it's a fantastic little shine

32:27

cut.

32:28

He was on Steven Colbert and

32:30

he was telling him that when he was doing Hamlet

32:33

at the at Yell

32:36

Repertoire at Yale Repertory.

32:38

That's right, and forty.

32:39

Year old Hamlet in twenty

32:42

thirteen.

32:43

A gray haired, bald fucking a Hamlet.

32:47

So he's on stage and he's

32:49

like, where's my prop dagger?

32:53

And he can't find it anywhere. And then

32:56

during intermission the stage hands

32:59

are searching the stage, they're looking for through the

33:01

audience. They can't find it anywhere, and then

33:03

they find his dagger in

33:06

an act too, on a piece

33:08

of scenery that he says was one hundred

33:10

feet up in the air, even though

33:12

the dagger was on him when he first

33:14

started the show. Mmmm, he

33:17

says, it was a ghost. See

33:21

this was great, that was great. Can

33:23

we keep going?

33:24

Yes? Okay, terrifying the terrifying

33:26

tale, Paul Giamani and the al Tagger

33:28

ghost.

33:30

How about Gary Busey,

33:33

Ladies and gentlemen and the soup ghost

33:36

Raj.

33:36

Let me tell you something. I'm firm, firm,

33:39

and I treasured this opportunity to come

33:41

forward and talk about these issues with

33:43

a creditable witness here because

33:46

I've talked to this, I've been on the BBC, I've

33:48

been on Chinese Communist News, and

33:50

the only person that has given me a platform to talk

33:53

about the truth of the supernatural

33:55

is here right on this program.

33:56

That's what we do.

33:57

And I believe in ghost, God's

34:00

hell only Satan transgendered.

34:04

I don't know if I like that one.

34:07

So he says, quote,

34:11

I had a ghost one time

34:13

come out of a big plate of soup. I

34:15

had plates of soup,

34:18

a big bowl of soup. He corrects himself.

34:21

It was called a soup ghost, he

34:23

continued.

34:24

It was the ever gaged into a bowl of

34:26

soup and seen the supernatural. That's the

34:29

that is the that is the kind of important wordplay

34:31

that can lead you towards the path path of victories

34:34

or a path of devil deviltry.

34:36

It could have been like a ghost of

34:38

a klam, a clam chowder ghost or something.

34:41

Look the clams. We've seen Alice in Wonderland.

34:43

The clams are down there. They have bonnets on. Lady,

34:46

gentlemen, this is this is the truth. The walrus

34:48

and the carpenter were trying to lead us down the path of truth.

34:51

He says it was a good looking ghost

34:53

because it was covered in vegetables. He

34:56

says, that's my kind of broccoli.

34:58

Sometimes the broccoli is horning down there, Ladies,

35:01

gentlemen, I've looked. I've looked the soup in the

35:03

eye. Sometimes the waiter

35:05

brings a bowl of soup. Uh, there's

35:08

a French onion soup, or like

35:10

you said, a clamshowder or a good ministroni

35:13

or something, even if a spot show. I will PLoP

35:15

my face right down there and I will gurgle

35:17

through the liquid and say, waiter, there is a genius

35:20

inside of my soup. And I wait for the

35:22

response, because that's the word of Heaven.

35:24

Thank you, Cary, beauty.

35:28

You know what heaven stands for. He everlasting,

35:30

always vets every

35:33

necessity.

35:34

Wow, I can't believe you get because I have seen

35:36

him do that thing. Where does

35:39

the yeah, I guess acronym for every.

35:41

Word, always creating redundant

35:44

observations. Never your

35:47

mind.

35:48

Wait, soup is supernatural?

35:51

Well that's just that's just a that's a contraction.

35:54

Oh that's soup is just

35:56

simply short for supernatural.

35:59

The ass is supernatural.

36:00

Oh sure, but that supernatural

36:02

observation is under penalty. Wow

36:06

are you now?

36:06

I'm going to rip it off and see if Gerry PC is really

36:09

in there.

36:11

I would not have gotten away with it because I would have turned

36:13

myself in if not for you meddling kids.

36:16

It says that he was heading out of Ralph's one

36:18

day in Malibu and uh TMZ

36:21

asked him about seeing ghosts,

36:23

and that's when he gave us that wonderful

36:26

story about the soup ghost.

36:28

I love that he's the one guy that TMZ interrupts

36:31

on the street and he's like, oh, I'm I'm grateful

36:33

to talk to you. I'll sit here, I'll

36:35

talk to you for forty five minutes. TMZ is the

36:37

one that's like, it's like, okay, we're done, let's get out

36:39

of here.

36:40

That's a nice There's more.

36:41

I have more to say.

36:43

This is more than we can use.

36:45

Ralph is funded by the macis.

36:48

So moving along.

36:51

We've got Mark

36:53

Marin who claims

36:56

he experienced a ghost in nineteen

36:59

eighty eight, eight in New York City.

37:01

Yeah, man, I don't know. It was a summer in Ducaucus.

37:04

Everybody's everybody thought, Ducacus, who's gonna

37:06

win. It was eighty eight. We were young.

37:08

We were doing the New New York thing. I

37:11

was on stage. I was I was on stage at the cellar.

37:16

I was on the stage of cellar. It was bombing. It

37:18

was bombing, and then I got off and there was nobody at the table.

37:21

He turned the lights out and then suddenly I was levitating.

37:23

It was the ghost. It was the ghost of It

37:25

was the ghost of Sam Kennison. Fuck, it

37:29

was the ghost of Sam Kisson. He accused me of

37:31

stealing one of his jokes. I said, look, let's talk

37:33

it out, man.

37:36

Wow, God, I love Mark me if

37:39

wait, is the under culture still out

37:41

there? No thanks for asking, but I

37:43

mean, like, is it's still it's out there?

37:44

Yeah? That was.

37:45

There's an episode where you played Mark myren

37:47

and our dear friend,

37:49

Our dear friend, Sam Pancake, Sam

37:52

Pancake, Thank you I forgot to Sam

37:55

pan Cake plays rip Tailer.

37:57

That might be the best interview we did on the

38:00

culture. There was my podcast that ran for

38:02

a year from the pandemic killed

38:04

it. It was twenty nineteen to twenty

38:06

twenty. It was the under Culture on

38:08

Forever Dog and it is very funny

38:11

and it still exists. A lot of it's on YouTube

38:14

or Apple podcasts, but the whole

38:16

thing is on the website behind

38:18

us. Very very one dollar pay one.

38:20

That was one of the funniest pieces of comedy

38:23

I have ever heard. Both of you were just so

38:25

on.

38:25

I was Mark Maren and Sam Pancake

38:28

was Rip Tailor, and I was trying

38:30

because it was a conversation I imagine, I just

38:32

wanted to hear this, and so I

38:34

was like, Rip, come on, let's get down to

38:36

it Rip, and he would. Sam Pancake

38:40

was hilariously. He told

38:42

me he was going to do this, not listening

38:44

to anything I was saying or asking, and

38:46

just railroading. But it was appropriate

38:48

because that's what Rip Taylor would have done it.

38:51

It was kind of like when Gallagher was on

38:53

Mark Maren.

38:54

We wanted it to be like that.

38:55

Then he kind of walked out at the I'm

38:57

like off book On this episode

39:00

of the under culture. I've listened to it so many

39:02

times.

39:03

I love it too. I think there's a short clip of

39:05

it on YouTube that

39:07

might be my favorite interview from the whole damn

39:10

thing.

39:10

Oh well, so Mark Maren's

39:12

real story, we don't know much about it.

39:14

Hopefully one of these days we'll get him in here, because

39:16

I love Mark Maren. But he

39:19

basically was replying on a very short

39:21

TikTok. Someone asked him, they said,

39:23

is it true that you saw a ghost

39:25

in nineteen eighty eight in New York City?

39:28

And his quote was something

39:30

moved a chair, but I was really high.

39:35

That's a full I love

39:37

how literal Maren does. I

39:39

don't buy any of the stuff, you know,

39:41

you know the They didn't

39:43

light any candles, he didn't ask anybody, There

39:46

was no I didn't do any taro.

39:49

Something moved to charity with high.

39:51

I don't believe in any of this bullshit. I don't even believe. I don't

39:53

even believe in the John Lennon song about what you don't believe

39:55

in.

39:57

First of all, this is the most talk of heterosexual

40:00

men we've ever had on this podcast.

40:02

This is sorry I do. I

40:05

basically do drag as

40:07

unattractive. No,

40:10

Maren's hot, Maron's hot, okay, but

40:12

generally either grumpy or unattractive.

40:15

Man.

40:17

Straight men are an underrepresented group

40:19

on this show, and

40:21

so it is nice to sometimes

40:23

talk about them.

40:24

I get locked in because I don't know, I can't. I have

40:26

to do the voices.

40:28

You do the voices, and you do them. Well, okay,

40:31

here's the last one. Elon

40:33

Musk sells his thirty million

40:36

dollar mansion because he says it's creepy.

40:40

Well,

40:42

obviously, I lived

40:44

in bel Air for quite a while, and

40:47

my god lived in

40:49

bel Air for quite a while. And I

40:51

was trying to

40:53

solve humanity by

40:56

getting us to Mars, because you

40:58

know, sitting in traffic to who

41:00

long to get to sant Monica or long Leach

41:03

or something, And so I

41:05

thought, well, why not just get

41:08

there faster? And while we're doing that, why not make

41:10

it any longer journey. So let's

41:12

get to Mars. Well, I

41:14

started to see these

41:17

terrible visions of blood.

41:21

And that feels normal.

41:23

I realized that that was what I

41:25

was aiming for, Like AD

41:28

asked for a per sanguinem, you know, to

41:30

the stars to blood that

41:33

I wanted to have, like a lot of people die,

41:37

similar to other great works of ancient kings,

41:40

you know Ozumandias or the Pharaohs of Egypt,

41:43

Like, you're not going to build a pyramid without a certain

41:45

number of people being buried alive. And

41:48

I thought, what a greater monument than Mars.

41:50

And that's when the hallucinations started,

41:52

the ghosts appearances,

41:55

where I saw these terrifying

41:58

ghosts of these creatures that didn't want me to

42:00

accomplish my plans. And they would

42:02

be like, oh, we're like, we actually

42:04

like Earth and we don't want

42:07

you building a platform to the stars

42:10

over our bodies and the bodies of our children.

42:13

And so that's when I decided

42:15

to tunnel deeply

42:18

with my my special

42:20

tubes. It's tunnel so I didn't

42:23

have to see the ghosts, but it just got me closer

42:25

to Hell and different kinds of dements. So even

42:28

pretty pretty cool, pretty like l

42:30

cool.

42:30

God, he's so cool and so funny.

42:33

I'm like really cool.

42:33

Lots of children, he's like the

42:35

coolest guy, like of.

42:37

My many children were or we'll even

42:40

read my Christmas cards when I said

42:42

them.

42:43

So who was that podcast? Called full

42:46

sand podcast?

42:47

And right on miss clip promoting

42:51

dangerous conspiracy there pretty

42:54

obviously like normal.

42:56

He says that, yeah, has forty seven acre

42:59

home er Land. The

43:01

house that was on forty seven acres,

43:04

he said that he would hear a lot of noises

43:07

and you know, doors open

43:09

sometimes, but he kind of doesn't believe that in

43:12

ghosts.

43:12

But right, someone tried to someone

43:14

tried to make me believe

43:17

that. Oh no, there was an explanation for it.

43:19

That there were like

43:21

younger guys that were like opening doors

43:24

and bringing their girlfriends in

43:26

or like having sex with

43:28

some girlfriend or

43:30

wife that I was with at the time, and

43:33

there would like farcical like opening

43:35

of closing of doors and stuff, and that I never saw

43:37

them. But that's obviously not an explanation. It had to be

43:39

ghosts.

43:40

It was probably the kids. There's probably so many

43:43

kids. He forgets how many kids

43:45

there are in the house.

43:46

There are at any one time, like twenty

43:48

three or maybe even like twenty

43:50

five kids, and hard

43:53

to keep track because sometimes they slip

43:56

in and out of existence because of my various

43:58

experiments with dimensionality. So

44:03

that was that you did it

44:05

so right, And so

44:08

looking forward to going to suplim places like Mars

44:10

where if there's a ghost.

44:13

We will actually like merge with the ghost

44:15

and become sort of like

44:19

like a half ghost, half human,

44:21

hybrid species, half alien and

44:24

looking forward to this just to be able to go through rocks

44:27

so I won't have the tunnel anymore with

44:30

my tubes, my magnetic shoes, and

44:32

these are ghosts. Also that conveniently,

44:35

the ghosts I see, I've programmed

44:37

them into Tesla's. If you notice when there's a little

44:39

people on the sidewalks when you're driving

44:42

a Tesla or in the back of a Tesla or something,

44:44

that there's like people on the sidewalks that kind

44:47

of disappear just as you're about to run into them,

44:49

that's the kinds of ghost I see. I see

44:51

human beings as ghosts.

44:54

It's a lot like the

44:57

Chamalon film, except for me. I don't

44:59

see dead people. I just simply don't

45:01

see living people. Instead of

45:03

them, I see like ghosts of stalks

45:05

that are that are you

45:07

know? There there as an advisory

45:10

in my warning panel on the Tesla, like

45:12

not to avoid them, but just to let you know

45:14

that if you should desire to, there's someone

45:17

you can run over that way.

45:18

I'm not even kidding you. People do

45:21

upload to TikTok them driving

45:23

their Teslas through cemeteries and

45:26

spooky places, and there's it

45:28

picks up humans on that

45:30

thing, right, it's it's that,

45:33

aren't there.

45:33

The Tesla automobiles is designed to

45:36

pick up lots of false signals.

45:38

Sounds safe.

45:39

There are dogs that the Tesla

45:41

would be like alert, alert, like this

45:43

is the President of the United States, this

45:46

is a great visiting foreign dignitary, what have you.

45:48

And then sometimes there would be like, for

45:51

example, Tesla's don't see nuns nuns

45:54

if they're wearing the habits of Catholic nun. The

45:57

Tesla just simply doesn't pick it up because of the black

45:59

and white interference. So they're

46:01

in danger. And I think in the future we're going to

46:03

have to put them in underground shuttles or

46:07

simply ship from Baltimor.

46:08

And that is sister Act three. The

46:13

plot. James,

46:16

let's do something untoward,

46:20

let's do something a little spooky.

46:22

And by the way, thank you for that segment.

46:25

That was amazing, Thank you incredible.

46:27

There's less, there's less of that where that came

46:29

from.

46:30

You can see James live,

46:33

do you know right now? Give them a couple of dates.

46:36

Yes, jamesdomain dot com and my link tree,

46:38

and I try to post these on social media. I'm gonna

46:40

be in Arlington, Virginia at the Arlington

46:43

Draft House this month in December, and

46:45

then in early January, I'm going to be at Good Nights

46:47

in Raleigh, North Carolina.

46:49

Oh, I'm mightna be there in November.

46:50

It's beautiful, right, I just was there there.

46:53

We do record this early, people know that.

46:55

And then I'm going to be at hel You

46:58

in Portland.

46:58

I'm going to be there in December.

47:01

So I'm there in early January. So there we go. We're

47:03

on the same track. Oh my god, we're

47:06

in the circuit and there's other dates

47:08

and stuff coming together. And you can

47:10

so James adomain dot com or my link

47:12

tree which is Jadomian

47:14

just like my Instagram.

47:15

Love it.

47:17

Uh.

47:17

Can I show you a haunted doll? Yes,

47:20

okay, it's time for a segment I call

47:23

the dolls are Living.

47:27

So what I do is I go to eBay dot

47:29

com. I look up haunted dolls.

47:33

There's always thousands of haunted dolls

47:35

being sold and sort of the idea

47:37

is usually a

47:39

living person died and somehow

47:41

ends up in a haunted doll that is now being

47:43

sold on eBay. That's the story

47:46

that these people go with. They come with backstories,

47:49

and today we

47:51

have one that doesn't necessarily look scary,

47:53

but it has a backstory to it. This

47:56

is a doll named Lil Choppy,

47:58

Little Choppy. Lil Choppy,

48:01

Little Choppy, and Lil Choppy

48:03

is going for thirty four dollars and ninety

48:05

nine cents. Geehash show was Lil

48:08

Choppy? Please you got

48:10

it?

48:10

Rose three dollars ninety nine

48:12

cents.

48:12

Nope, thirty four dollars thirty four So it's

48:14

basically a little Chihuahua beanie

48:17

baby looking thing.

48:19

I know this one though. It has batteries

48:21

and it barks and moves. I bet if it's

48:23

the one yep, I can see I've had

48:25

one of these before. Oh it has a video

48:27

well similar, it's similar to the one I

48:30

had? Yes, okay, does he bark?

48:34

Well not?

48:34

This one probably just puts curses

48:37

on you because Lil Choppy is

48:39

spooky, honey.

48:41

The one I had, I actually gave it away.

48:43

It's a little slightly different than this, but I gave it

48:45

to an ex boyfriend as a joke gift.

48:47

That was like, uh, there was like, hey,

48:50

this is you this.

48:51

Did you put a spirit inside? Oh?

48:53

I didn't do anything like that. It was just like this is a joke,

48:55

like, hey, this is in case you're wondering,

48:57

this is this is like how uh

49:00

this is how you are to me.

49:01

Sometimes

49:05

well it says, uh,

49:07

this is Lil Choppy and she

49:10

is one of the sweetest and funniest

49:12

dolls I've ever encountered. Okay, so

49:14

it's not that spooky. It's a it's a sweet one.

49:18

She's kept safe and clean by

49:20

a spirit keeper.

49:22

Now that that's you. You the

49:24

owner put that into it.

49:26

Yes, uh, since they

49:28

already had many good encounters with

49:30

her, they wanted to pass it on to someone

49:32

with good vibes. Now wait

49:34

a minute, now they change the pronouns

49:37

because it says he was

49:39

a comedian who loved

49:41

improv and making people

49:44

laugh. So there's an there's an old

49:46

Dell close, there's

49:49

an old Second City or cast

49:51

member.

49:52

Oh it's John Candy. Oh

49:55

you know you know what. They're

49:58

very interesting breed.

50:02

He died of a rare illness. There's always a little bit

50:04

of a sad the always gotta tell you did that

50:07

Little Choppy died of a rare illness.

50:09

Didn't tell me when he was sick. Okay. His life's mission

50:12

is to be there for you, make you feel better and

50:14

give you more abundant life.

50:16

He sounds sweet.

50:17

He loves children and animals,

50:20

safe to keep in a house and keep

50:23

inside of the house.

50:24

I'm a mog, half man, half dog. I'm

50:27

my own best friend.

50:28

Oh my god. And

50:30

he'll bring joy and good luck to you.

50:33

He will be sweet and welcoming to those who

50:35

come into your environment.

50:37

Also, he can sell shower

50:40

curtain rings.

50:42

He could be an annoying travel companion,

50:44

but you grow to love him.

50:46

Oh my god, John

50:48

Candy, I listen. It

50:51

very well could be. And now he's reinvented

50:53

himself as Lil Choppy. And

50:56

it says he's an encouraging schore. No,

51:00

he's an encouraging spirit that will say positive

51:02

affirmations and jokes to you, and

51:05

he will provide sweet dreams while you sleep.

51:10

So that's a little choppy. Thirty four dollars

51:12

and ninety.

51:12

Mins, jumpy. I admire your body of work.

51:16

Okay, let's do one last thing here. Can

51:19

I play you some ghost voices?

51:21

Yes?

51:21

Oh, finally someone else doing

51:24

voices it's time

51:26

for EVP or

51:29

ev please

51:33

EVPs electronic voice phenomena.

51:36

It's when people believe they've captured a ghost speaking

51:39

they record it. Yeah. Yeah,

51:41

So what I do is I go to eat to YouTube

51:44

and I find two EVPs,

51:47

and I'm gonna play it for you. You tell me

51:49

you're you're you're really an expert

51:51

in the world of voices. I

51:54

have a feeling that you're gonna be able to listen and

51:56

pick out what we're here in here.

51:59

Uh, you know, it's funny sometimes they have

52:01

like you'll watch like a documentary about

52:03

this stuff, and they'll have like a recording

52:06

engineer expert that is

52:08

listening and decides,

52:10

oh, this is a real human speaking or

52:12

whatever. I'm curious what you might

52:14

think.

52:14

Yeah, you get all these self declared experts.

52:17

Somebody who's like, oh, you got designated

52:19

as a credentialed professional

52:22

witness by the local county

52:24

court. Save

52:26

your credentials. I'm

52:28

not interested. As Bruce Lee said,

52:31

your black belt is only used good for

52:34

holding up your pants. I

52:36

want to speak to me like I'm a full citizens.

52:39

I want to judge on the evidence alone.

52:41

This will be interesting. This was posted

52:43

by Razor Baby one.

52:46

On you two Razor Baby, and.

52:49

It's from the Metro Area Paranormal

52:52

Society also known as MAPS, and

52:55

they are in Omaha, Nebraska. And

52:57

this is a business that was in the area

53:00

of Dundee, Nebraska.

53:02

I don't know what the business was called. But they did a

53:04

ghost hunt there. And what did this

53:06

ghost say?

53:12

It's a real soft whisper. Let

53:14

me play it again.

53:20

Yeah, that's an Omaha right, Yeah,

53:22

yeah,

53:26

it's hey.

53:26

It's just they're saying, hey, hey,

53:33

I mean that's very well could

53:36

be.

53:36

I think the ghost is talking to another ghost,

53:38

going hey, watch out, this guy's

53:41

going to discover us.

53:43

Honestly, I heard that, So

53:46

that's not what they thought. Necessarily,

53:50

I'm going to give you a B, C D. And

53:53

it was one of these that they believe it

53:55

said. Did they think it was a you

53:59

are? I think

54:01

what I didn't.

54:02

I'd have to isolate the audio and bump it up

54:04

and well enhance, isolated,

54:08

enhance.

54:09

This is this is isolated at a hag.

54:11

I can't I don't hear that.

54:13

Okay, Okay, well they think it was B there's

54:17

no way you're here. Did

54:20

they think it was C get

54:22

away from us? Or

54:26

d oh? You make

54:28

me nuts.

54:30

They thought it was get away from

54:32

us. That's what I said.

54:33

That is exactly what they thought. Now

54:35

that we know that was.

54:36

It was there. It's a negative mindset,

54:38

you know, you just got to embrace the voice. Get

54:44

away from us.

54:45

I hear it, I hear

54:47

it.

54:48

I think it's just hey, it

54:50

could be.

54:52

Now here's one more from the same group.

54:55

This time it was at a local cemetery

54:57

in Omaha. What

55:00

does this one say? It's a little different sounding.

55:06

That's scary.

55:07

Let me play it again?

55:12

Can I hear over time? Nobody

55:18

wants to play with me. It's

55:23

not play, it's some other word.

55:25

But it's definitely that.

55:27

With me.

55:29

Definitely that vibe with

55:31

me. Did they think it was a please,

55:34

will you buy some snacks? B?

55:38

These are the sheep God wants

55:40

next? See

55:44

we need to see you here? Or

55:47

D three to the

55:49

three to the four, five six?

55:52

Can I hear it again? It's

55:57

number three? What was that.

56:00

You need to see you here?

56:01

We need to see you here. I think that's what

56:04

they think the voice said.

56:05

They think it's be These are

56:08

the sheep God wants next.

56:10

It's too there's too much information

56:12

you're loading into it. That's

56:14

that's reading between the sounds.

56:17

But now that we know that, let's let's listen

56:19

for these are the sheep God wants

56:21

next?

56:25

I hear it, no, because it's like

56:27

a. It's a. It's a. There

56:30

is a softer intention if

56:33

there was a if there was a declaration like

56:35

that, it would be more pronounced. There

56:38

was a softer intention. Like it sounds

56:40

to me like if that that voice,

56:42

whether it's a ghost or a human or whatever, it

56:44

sounds like it's lamenting, like it's complaining,

56:47

like it's self pitying. Yeah,

56:49

nobody wants to see me or whatever,

56:51

something that doesn't want me not maybe

56:54

maybe maybe that's it.

56:55

Oh,

56:58

James, real quick,

57:00

I'm curious your your thoughts on a

57:02

couple of things. What do you

57:04

think about what do

57:06

you think about ghosts?

57:10

It's a Martin short. Yes, Jimmy

57:13

Glick, what do you thoughts of ghosts?

57:15

Exactly? That's my favorite character of

57:17

all time. Yeah, I love Jimminy Glick. What

57:20

what are your thoughts on aliens?

57:24

Sure they seem like they're out there,

57:27

you know, the of course, the the Fermi paradox.

57:30

What's the Fermi paradox.

57:33

It's named after an Italian astrophysicist.

57:35

I believe. Uh if

57:38

is it Frederico Fermi or Enrico

57:40

Fermi? I forget, but it's doctor Fermie

57:43

from the.

57:43

Nineteen If he's an Italian man,

57:45

he's Fermi.

57:48

He was sort of he was one of the people on

57:50

the Manhattan Project and

57:52

he had developed this what

57:55

do you call it axiom, which

57:58

is a sort of a statement other

58:00

people to investigate. It's not

58:02

quite a theory, it's a statement to be investigated.

58:04

Where he was saying, I'm gonna

58:06

get it wrong, and there's several layers to it.

58:08

It's like number one, number two, there's a list of things

58:10

where he's like, the observable

58:13

universe is so vast that

58:15

there must have evolved aliens

58:18

on other and other star systems. However

58:21

we have had no contact with

58:23

them and no knowledge of them here, so

58:26

there has to be He tried to narrow down all

58:28

the possible solutions for why, given

58:31

the chance of infinite evolutions over billions

58:33

of years, why we don't see them

58:35

all the time or have no knowledge of them, And that

58:37

he has he lays out the possible

58:39

answers, which is, we

58:42

have seen them, but we forgot

58:45

them. We have seen them and

58:47

it's embedded in our you know,

58:49

ancient stone engravings

58:52

or uh there. It ranges up

58:54

to possibilities such that the nature

58:56

of life evolving on a planet is such

58:59

that it only lacks for about a billion

59:01

years before it makes itself extinct, so

59:03

that no civilization ever has time to

59:06

reach out right. He also says

59:08

there's a possibility that they have made contact

59:10

with us, but they hide from us, or they

59:12

blend in with us, or they don't

59:14

want to contact us because

59:16

they're not interested in us, Like we're just like some

59:19

idiots that they don't care about.

59:20

What I think. I genuinely

59:23

think that we are the bad neighborhood in the galaxy

59:25

that they're like where, let's not go over there.

59:28

This all the stuff that you're saying that

59:31

I have heard about this, but I've never

59:33

gotten into it too much because that stuff freaks

59:35

me out, like gives me some kind of like

59:38

anxiety.

59:39

The best fictional rendering

59:42

I've seen, I don't. I am

59:44

again agnostic. I don't deny what people

59:46

claim to have seen unless there's

59:48

somebody's gonna put me on a jury. You know, I

59:50

don't have to make a decision, but I'm

59:53

more interested in like the the future

59:56

theory of aliens than I

59:58

am about like individuals sightings of them.

1:00:01

The best fiction I've

1:00:03

seen recently science fiction

1:00:06

exploring this idea is the Three Body

1:00:08

Problem series by Shishin Lu, the

1:00:10

Chinese science fiction writer. It's

1:00:12

an attempt at a very realistic scenario

1:00:15

of aliens as

1:00:17

close as they could possibly be and

1:00:19

be able to get to us, and they're

1:00:21

hostile, but it takes so long

1:00:24

for them to get to us that we have hundreds

1:00:27

of years knowing that they're coming. Oh,

1:00:33

it's a very interesting trilogy of books.

1:00:36

Okay, let's just do Let's

1:00:38

do two more that. I'm curious about your thoughts

1:00:41

on bigfoot.

1:00:42

Uh, okay, this is going to be good boring

1:00:44

to people. But you can't rule it out some

1:00:47

sure ancient hominin species that didn't

1:00:49

go extinct in the hills and forests of remote

1:00:52

parts of the world. Very unlikely,

1:00:54

definitely explainable. You can't rule it out very

1:00:56

unlikely. You could probably usually explain

1:00:58

it from deliberate hoaxes or somebody

1:01:01

saw a moose I saw I'm

1:01:03

serious, on two legs, I saw a moose

1:01:06

at dusk either like right,

1:01:08

around sunset or just after the sun had

1:01:10

set. My brother and I saw a moose in what's

1:01:13

the big National park in Wyoming, Montana?

1:01:17

Is that Yosemite?

1:01:18

No, the big one Yellowstone.

1:01:21

Yell we were in was

1:01:23

like, he doesn't even know what he's talking about. He

1:01:25

doesn't even know he can't even listen to this guy. No,

1:01:28

we were in Yellowstone and we saw we

1:01:30

saw this giant figure walk

1:01:33

out of the trees and stop and kind

1:01:35

of look at us, and

1:01:37

you only see the front two feet because

1:01:40

it's the rest of its hiding in the trees.

1:01:43

And then you realize, oh, and it

1:01:45

took us a minute to be like, what the fuck, Oh,

1:01:48

it's a moose. It was a female

1:01:50

moose without the antler.

1:01:51

Gee, how to make sure you cut the second part when

1:01:53

we realized it was a moose. No, but

1:01:56

that's uh. That

1:01:58

probably does happen all the time

1:02:00

to people because you see it like the

1:02:02

black fur, and you're like.

1:02:04

Be a bear, could be a bear. Moose are

1:02:07

huge. People don't realize how big they are.

1:02:08

Well, especially if you're seeing like those big huge

1:02:10

horns and you're not processing that that's

1:02:13

not like the head or something. You're just like all

1:02:15

I see is a big creature. Yeah, how

1:02:17

fascinating.

1:02:18

Yeah, and it was a female moose, so there was

1:02:20

no antlers, so it kind of just looked

1:02:22

like a big floppy person walked out of the

1:02:24

trees and just stopped there. Wow.

1:02:26

And when we realized we were both talking about

1:02:28

it, we were like, that would that what we just saw would

1:02:31

easily be confused for a bigfoot.

1:02:33

Yeah, it was just a big floppy

1:02:35

lady moose.

1:02:36

Yeah, you wonder like, Okay, the Neanderthals

1:02:39

went extinct forty thousand

1:02:41

years ago, they say, and the other

1:02:44

adjacent human species to Homo

1:02:47

sapiens around the world. I forget

1:02:49

what the other ones are called, but the Neanderthals

1:02:51

are the ones I know from Eurasia. I guess.

1:02:55

Okay, so they went extinct or did they?

1:02:58

We know that some of them that some

1:03:00

people have up to, like you know a small percentage

1:03:02

of their DNAs, like some

1:03:05

of the Neanderthals intermarried.

1:03:07

With some more than others.

1:03:09

The Homo sapiens. Yeah, so yeah,

1:03:11

sure, okay, Right, have we explored every

1:03:13

cave? I don't know, we know

1:03:16

we haven't.

1:03:16

But this is where things get

1:03:19

interesting.

1:03:19

For me, is it's a long time

1:03:21

to stay off the grid, though, forty thousand

1:03:23

years commitment.

1:03:25

If you are to believe

1:03:27

that in the possibility of ghosts, I'm just people

1:03:30

in general, not just see you specifically. And

1:03:32

you know that there were these other

1:03:35

versions of humans that once existed.

1:03:38

Could it be a ghost version of

1:03:41

them that sometimes people see

1:03:43

and that's why we

1:03:45

can never catch the Bigfoot?

1:03:47

Wow, you're telling me that Bigfoot

1:03:50

isn't real and that that's the key to the whole solution.

1:03:52

I think Bigfoot's a ghost because people

1:03:54

would have caught it by now.

1:03:55

You grab it and it disappears.

1:03:57

Yes, if it was you, you'd run

1:03:59

up.

1:04:00

Get out of here. I know that's

1:04:02

how you get killed by a moose.

1:04:06

I saw bears one time outside

1:04:09

of LA I thought.

1:04:10

He was trying to hurt me. By

1:04:12

the way, Yeah, when I say moose, it was

1:04:14

Bullwinkle from Rocky and Bullwinkle. No,

1:04:19

they're just driving through Yellowstone.

1:04:23

Don't murder that man. But it was dusk

1:04:26

and he came up to try stuff.

1:04:29

No. I saw three bears,

1:04:32

not the gay kind.

1:04:34

Sure.

1:04:35

One time outside of LA I

1:04:37

was in claire Monts.

1:04:39

Were you breaking into bears

1:04:41

cabins and like trying their porridge and stuff.

1:04:44

There were three of them. One of it was a little

1:04:46

too hot, one was too cold. No,

1:04:49

there was I was leaving an event

1:04:52

and the cars were all stopped leaving

1:04:54

this parking lot, and I'm like, what's going on?

1:04:57

Hurry?

1:04:58

Yes, And then when we finally moved and

1:05:00

got closer, we realized it was three bears

1:05:02

in Claremont. In Claremont, California.

1:05:05

I am near the Pomona Colleges. I suppose

1:05:07

I.

1:05:07

Suppose, so, okay,

1:05:09

last one past lives.

1:05:12

Oh yeah. I think this is a legitimate

1:05:15

philosophical or religious belief. And I don't even

1:05:17

think it's something kind of paranormal that needs to be

1:05:19

doubted at all. Really, I think it's I think

1:05:21

it's the makes the most sense as an explanation

1:05:23

for everything. Well, okay,

1:05:26

one version of it that I think is a very

1:05:28

clean explanation for all

1:05:31

life on Earth is what the

1:05:33

way Alan Watts summarizes a lot of what he

1:05:35

talks about, where you

1:05:37

are something the whole universe is doing

1:05:40

in the same way that a wave is something

1:05:42

that the whole ocean is doing. So

1:05:45

he says that you know, individual

1:05:47

living things are just sort of outcroppings

1:05:49

of powerful consciousness,

1:05:52

like one living thing that experiences itself

1:05:55

as separate living things and very

1:05:58

similar to that to it or

1:06:01

you know, sure different Wikipedia

1:06:04

pages. But

1:06:06

I do believe in past lives,

1:06:08

and I believe that they're not limited to human

1:06:11

beings, and I think I lean

1:06:13

towards the possible idea

1:06:16

that I don't know the details

1:06:19

of how it works, but I

1:06:21

have actually gotten into the nerdy side of this,

1:06:23

where there's like you know, Christian theologians

1:06:26

and also atheists that try to

1:06:28

take apart reincarnation and

1:06:30

be like, well, the population keeps

1:06:32

growing, where are these souls coming from?

1:06:34

Where are these minds coming from? And it's like, yeah,

1:06:36

but there are you counting all

1:06:39

the extinct creatures. And I

1:06:42

think it's very possible that we

1:06:44

are one thing that has to live through

1:06:46

being every other, every possible

1:06:49

living thing on the planet, and

1:06:52

that that's how a deity,

1:06:54

an eternal being or a semi

1:06:57

eternal being like the Earth or

1:06:59

the Sun, passes the time

1:07:01

because it's fucking boring to live

1:07:04

forever.

1:07:05

So that it's like fun for them to yes.

1:07:08

That you have to create something alive or

1:07:10

you're just out there gurgling in space. Interest

1:07:14

and it would be so boring, it would be

1:07:16

torture, so that they create

1:07:18

this life thing just to exist.

1:07:21

I guess I did not realize that

1:07:23

you.

1:07:24

That's what I actually believe.

1:07:26

I didn't realize, like when I

1:07:28

had you come on here, that you have

1:07:30

like read up on all this stuff and

1:07:33

you have like you know so much about this.

1:07:35

Well, some things I do and

1:07:37

some things I bullshit very quickly. I'll

1:07:39

leave it to your listeners to decide.

1:07:43

No, that's great, this is great. This is

1:07:45

a great way to end, because

1:07:47

now my mind is thinking about a lot of things you've

1:07:49

just said.

1:07:50

I've summarized a lot of it very quickly.

1:07:53

Yeah, there's the mechanics of how that

1:07:55

works. You know, you might have

1:07:57

like a short cycle where there's one

1:07:59

sort of like spirit or consciousness

1:08:02

that's being reincarnated

1:08:04

on a short cycle. But then then overall

1:08:06

there's these larger cycles where we

1:08:09

might we might I can't say it for sure, we

1:08:11

might all just be the same thing.

1:08:13

I'm like, I'm very convinced of it too, because

1:08:15

of stories I've heard, like even

1:08:17

on this show, where it's like I

1:08:21

can't think of any specific ones right now, but just

1:08:24

this idea which by the way makes me not

1:08:27

fear death anymore, because I'm like,

1:08:29

oh, I think we just like we figure

1:08:31

it out, we go somewhere, we do it again. I

1:08:33

don't I don't know. Again, I don't know how it works

1:08:35

either. But it's like it seems.

1:08:37

You obviously don't remember it. That's that's

1:08:40

one of the things about splitting

1:08:42

up your life into other lives is that you don't remember.

1:08:44

But it seems like there are sometimes

1:08:47

blips or I don't know how to explain that

1:08:49

when people say, you know, for example,

1:08:52

we just covered this true

1:08:54

story of this little boy that knew

1:08:56

all this very specific information

1:08:59

about being a man in Hollywood

1:09:01

in the golden age of Hollywood.

1:09:03

And then they looked at it.

1:09:05

Yes, and they looked it up and it was not a famous

1:09:07

man or whatever. They find all the details

1:09:09

they knew what stready lived. This kid knew

1:09:11

everything. And it's like, I don't know

1:09:13

how that works. Where sometimes it's like,

1:09:16

oh, whoops, I remember too much, Like I don't know how.

1:09:18

I mean, arguably, Okay,

1:09:20

maybe you picked up a weird journal that you found in

1:09:22

a library.

1:09:23

Oh, come on, that

1:09:25

could be too Yeah, maybe you found a diary

1:09:28

somewhere, but.

1:09:29

Kids are clever.

1:09:30

I know it's it's weird. No, this

1:09:32

was when he was like four or five. I think anyway,

1:09:35

young clever. Well,

1:09:39

you're very clever, and I

1:09:42

want people to see you live and to see your special.

1:09:45

Yes, it's all available. And what we

1:09:47

were rounding out the end of the year, the holiday

1:09:49

season. What better time to

1:09:51

gather around with your loved ones, your

1:09:54

adult loved ones who enjoy

1:09:57

ribled late night adult comedy

1:10:00

and watch the Path of Most Resistance.

1:10:02

Well, it's actually just Path of Most Resistance,

1:10:04

my debut stand up comedy

1:10:07

special. It's on eight hundred Pound Gorilla.

1:10:10

It's available on their website and a number of platforms.

1:10:12

It's most prominently available on YouTube.

1:10:15

You can pan downloaded on eight hundred pound Gorilla

1:10:17

dot com. You can watch it and stream it for YouTube

1:10:20

for free, and it's

1:10:23

widely available. It's funny

1:10:25

at times and

1:10:27

at other times it's it's wet.

1:10:30

It's very wet. If you'll notice, I really

1:10:32

sweat out through the whole show because

1:10:35

it was September in Los Angeles, and

1:10:39

I yeah, I'm a sweater,

1:10:41

So yeah, don't expect a dry,

1:10:44

snappy, powdered this

1:10:46

is I'm raw Okay, I'm out there

1:10:48

in the trenches.

1:10:49

This is what we need.

1:10:51

Yeah, I read and I put it in. I put in an effort

1:10:53

the show. It's like, you know, it's like a sporting

1:10:55

event to me.

1:10:57

And all these years you've been doing stand up and this is the

1:11:00

or first special.

1:11:01

Yeah it is. They wouldn't let me do it anywhere

1:11:04

else, so I just did it myself. Finally,

1:11:07

that's the way you have to do it today.

1:11:08

Yeah.

1:11:10

But I'm very happy with how it turned out, and

1:11:13

I have a feeling you might like it. Path of Most Resistance

1:11:15

eight hundred Pound Gorilla YouTube And

1:11:17

also if you want to check out the old Underculture podcast

1:11:20

that's there, and then my stand up dates and so

1:11:22

forth, you can find on link tree or

1:11:25

my website jamsdome dot com, and on

1:11:28

Instagram and blue Sky and threads.

1:11:30

I'm generally at Jaodomian or some variation

1:11:32

of it.

1:11:33

Thanks James, thank you, Thank

1:11:37

you so much. James Adomian.

1:11:40

What an incredible mind and

1:11:42

talent. Well,

1:11:46

it's holiday season.

1:11:49

I hope you're taking great care of yourself

1:11:52

and enjoying

1:11:54

these last few weeks before we get a nice

1:11:56

little break. We will be taking a

1:11:58

break over here on go. Just to

1:12:01

warn you a few weeks in advance, we will

1:12:03

be taking a break the week of Christmas

1:12:06

and New Year's but then

1:12:08

will be back, don't you worry. And I

1:12:10

uh am already hard working on those

1:12:13

episodes and who we're

1:12:15

gonna start off the New year with a bang. I

1:12:18

love you all, both living and dead.

1:12:21

But if I didn't ask you to haunt me, don't

1:12:23

haunt me. Okay, by this

1:12:33

has been an exactly right production. Want

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1:12:39

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1:12:41

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1:13:05

Jeeha Lee. Associate producer

1:13:08

is the alarming Christina

1:13:10

Chamberlain. This episode

1:13:12

was mixed and sound designed by the eerie

1:13:16

Edson Choi. My guest booker

1:13:18

is the petrifying Patrick Kottner.

1:13:21

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1:13:23

raising Hannah Kyle Crichton.

1:13:26

My theme music is by the spine

1:13:29

Chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon,

1:13:31

artwork by the Spooky Vanessa

1:13:35

Lilac. Photography by

1:13:37

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1:13:39

Karen. Executive produced

1:13:42

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