0:07

What's that as

0:10

spooky?

0:11

Hey jooky, I'm pretty sure it's dead.

0:13

He's coming this way. Wait a

0:15

minute, I sa.

0:21

Nandas please

0:26

Hey boo, it's

0:28

me Roz and welcome

0:31

to Ghosted by Roz

0:33

Hernandez, the podcast.

0:35

Where I talk to people that I like

0:38

about the paranormal. Oh

0:41

my god, one of my favorite comedians

0:44

is on the show today, Joel Kim

0:46

Booster. He's iconic.

0:49

You've seen him on lots of television,

0:52

on stages, on screens, and

0:56

fun fact, he lives in

0:58

a house that has a ghost in

1:00

it. What a dream

1:03

guest. But before we get

1:05

to that, I want to

1:07

read a story. This, of course, was

1:09

sent to my email ghosted by Roz at

1:11

gmail dot com. It was written out

1:13

nice and wonderfully in about one

1:16

or two paragraphs, just as you could

1:18

do if you'd like me to read one on the show.

1:20

This one comes from eber Lynne,

1:23

who writes, Hi, Roz, I wanted to

1:25

share with you my ghost story that happened

1:27

in twenty seventeen. There's

1:30

a little timeline here, okay, so it

1:32

says August twenty seventeen, I

1:34

move into a new house with my daughter. October

1:37

twenty seventeen. One weekend

1:40

in October, my daughter is with her

1:42

father for the weekend and I am home by myself,

1:44

about to enjoy some takeout and binge

1:46

watch TV shows. It turned

1:49

into a seven hour binge

1:52

of Tyler the Medium,

1:54

a popular show on E that in

1:56

no way, shape or form I would

1:58

have been allowed to growing up due to religion.

2:01

My mother always told me that believing an astrology

2:04

or psychics was a way to open

2:07

myself to the devil. Tonight,

2:09

I ignored what she'd been telling me my whole

2:12

life. Nothing bad would really

2:14

happen right at a girl.

2:17

Finally, I went to bed at three am.

2:20

Perfect All lights

2:22

are off and it's pitch black,

2:25

but I couldn't sleep right away. My

2:28

bedroom was really dark and

2:30

the bedroom door was open to the hallway,

2:33

when suddenly, I for

2:35

sure felt a presence.

2:39

I froze under the covers and refused

2:41

to look over to the hallway, even

2:43

though I felt something or

2:46

someone was there. Five

2:48

minutes later, I create some courage

2:51

and decided to look over, and

2:53

there it was. Within the black

2:56

of the dark, I see a

2:58

faint silhouette of someone

3:00

about five foot three. Immediately

3:04

I shut my eyes and in fear and guilt.

3:06

I start to pray. I apologized

3:08

to God for disobeying my mother's advice

3:11

and regretting I made this horrible decision.

3:14

I basically prayed myself to sleep.

3:17

Oh my God, Tyler Henry, what are you

3:19

doing to people? Fast

3:21

forward to July twenty

3:23

eighteen. I invite my neighbor

3:26

D over for tea so

3:28

we could get to know each other better. D

3:31

has lived next door for over thirty years.

3:34

She raised her kids there and knew all

3:36

the neighbors on the street. She also

3:38

knew Mary, the previous

3:41

owner of my house, for a long time.

3:44

Mary had lived at the house since nineteen

3:47

eighty one, when the house was built.

3:49

She raised children with a husband

3:51

and continued living in the house even

3:54

after her husband passed away. She

3:56

was now in her nineties and her kids were

3:59

begging her to move closer to them,

4:01

and that's when she decided to sell

4:03

her house. After D shared

4:06

Mary's story, I asked her if

4:08

she was still alive. D told

4:11

me she had recently passed

4:13

away. I asked her when,

4:16

and it turns out that it

4:18

was October of twenty seventeen,

4:21

the same month that I had had my encounter with

4:24

that shadow, I had chills

4:26

and shared with d that most

4:28

likely it was Mary that came to visit

4:30

me that evening in the hallway. That's

4:33

the power of Tyler Henry. That

4:36

ghosts saw you watching Tyler Henry and said,

4:38

oh, I feel so comfortable around him.

4:41

I'm going to come out

4:43

of my ghost closet and I am

4:46

going to make an appearance tonight. And

4:48

I don't blame that ghost because, as

4:51

you all know, since I've been doing this

4:53

podcast it started in January of twenty

4:55

nineteen, I have always talked about

4:57

how badly I want to talk to Tyler

5:00

Henry myself, and I'm proud

5:03

to say I'm still trying.

5:05

One of these days, folks, we're gonna get Tyler

5:08

Henry. Thank you

5:10

for sending that story. And by

5:12

the way, thank you guys all so much

5:14

for the birthday wishes. My

5:17

birthday was October twentieth, Libra,

5:20

My biggest birthday wish is not only

5:22

do you tell everyone you know about this podcast,

5:26

but also if I just so happen

5:28

to be going to a place where you live, come

5:30

see me live on

5:33

the thirtieth of October, I'm doing Ghosted

5:35

Live in Los Angeles, at Largo

5:38

and then I'm doing stand up Election

5:41

Week in Raleigh,

5:44

North Carolina at good Night's

5:46

Comedy Club that is November

5:49

seventh. Then I'm going to Portland,

5:52

Oregon in December, that is

5:54

December eleventh, and that is

5:56

going to be Ghosted Live. And

5:58

then in Seattle, I will be

6:01

there the thirteenth of December

6:03

doing Ghosted Live and

6:07

stand up. Oh my god, you

6:09

get them both. Also, guess what

6:12

I Am coming to New

6:14

York City that

6:17

is also in December. So go

6:19

to my linktree linktree

6:22

dot com slash roz Hernandez.

6:24

It's also linked in my Instagram

6:26

at roz Hernandez and you will get all those

6:29

dates there. You can also get my autographed

6:31

polaroids, cameos,

6:34

all that good stuff. And are you watching

6:37

the Haunted Doll my YouTube series.

6:39

It's almost like this podcast without

6:42

guests. It's just me. It's

6:44

like Living for the Dead, except

6:46

it's only me and I'm not

6:48

helping anybody. All

6:51

right, let's talk to Joel

6:53

Kim Booster. I was

6:55

the show.

7:08

Where were you?

7:09

I was in Arlington, Texas?

7:11

Why what were you doing?

7:13

Giving a talk about what else

7:15

but diversity and inclusion in entertainment?

7:17

Industry, and I will say,

7:20

have you done colleges yet? Not

7:22

really, you'll get there soon.

7:24

And they are Every comic will

7:26

tell you this. They are the worst gigs.

7:28

This was fine because it was just a Q and A and me

7:31

talking, which was lovely and like everyone

7:33

was great. But like when

7:35

I was early in my career touring, I would

7:37

do these college gigs because they pay three

7:40

to four times as much as a club will for

7:42

one night. But they are some

7:44

of the most awful

7:46

like scenarios you could ever imagine.

7:49

I once. I won't name

7:51

the school they have it Chilis on

7:53

campus, though, so that might give it away.

7:56

Why are we doing the podcast I'm

7:58

asking you, Joel? Oh yeah, the podcasts?

8:01

Yeah, I thought we started. Let's do it,

8:03

Okay, we can keep talking, okay,

8:05

keep going.

8:06

No, And then I

8:09

had to perform an hour stand up during

8:11

the twenty fifteen Bernie Hillary

8:13

debate and they would not turn

8:15

off the TVs for the debate,

8:18

so half the Chilis was watching the debate.

8:20

Maybe twelve people were watching me

8:23

and it was one

8:25

of the hardest hours because I

8:27

also wanted to see them BA so I was

8:30

like, yeah, fuck my drag, like I don't

8:32

care about any of this. So

8:34

colleges are not always ideal,

8:37

but they do pay very well, and I will

8:39

say they are also how I found out

8:41

that I had a rider that my manager

8:43

had created for me without consulting

8:45

me. Well,

8:47

so one day I did a college and

8:49

they didn't have a green room. They had like they

8:52

just put me in a classroom and there was like

8:54

two mirrors, like mismatched mirrors

8:56

that were like full length mirrors in the room and I

8:58

was one on one side and on the other

9:00

side of the room. And I was like, Okay, this is weird. And then

9:02

after the show, I was like chatting with them and they were

9:04

like, sorry, we have to like carry these mirrors

9:07

across campus back to the

9:09

prop department or whatever. And I was like, why did

9:11

you bring those in here? And they were

9:13

like, oh, your writer says it's a man that a

9:15

mirror that you can see your front and your back.

9:18

And I was like, and I like texted

9:20

my manager. I was like, you were making me look like

9:22

a lunatic. I was like, there's

9:25

no I was like, I have never once expressed

9:28

to you the need to see my back

9:30

as well as my front. He

9:33

just assumed he.

9:34

Just assumed I'm doing my

9:36

first ever bus

9:38

tour. Oh, I leave

9:41

at three pm today.

9:44

We have like opposite lives today. I

9:46

landed at seven thirty, you're leaving at three.

9:49

I love that for us. I've got to get open for Bob

9:51

for like, Oh, that's amazing.

9:53

Yeah, but I've never

9:55

done like a bus, have you?

9:56

I have never done a bus. No, I've never done

9:58

a bus.

9:59

I'm so creous.

10:01

I think it'll be it sounds fun to me

10:04

that with Bob. I think it'll be fun in that crew,

10:06

it'll be fun. And also Bob

10:09

like cultivates such a smart audience

10:11

that you'll have the fucking time of

10:13

your life. You really will. Like, the thing

10:15

is about Bob's audiences is that

10:17

they are not drag comedy audiences.

10:20

They are like comedy comedy audiences, and

10:22

they because Bob is so smart.

10:26

Like my problem is is a lot of times when

10:28

I'm performing in LA, especially at the clubs like

10:30

and at certain other places,

10:32

like when you perform for people who

10:35

don't know what the obvious punchline

10:37

is. Like as comics, we're always

10:39

trying to stay ahead of whatever the obvious

10:42

punchline is, you know, but

10:44

if you're performing for an audience that doesn't even

10:46

know the obvious punchline, and then you

10:48

jump ahead to what the subversion

10:51

is. They're so lost,

10:53

and it's like you're supposed to say

10:55

the thing that exactly it's

10:58

I thought agents had small dicks, you know, like,

11:00

it's just like, you know, like, and it is so

11:03

frustrating and it's not helpful

11:05

at a certain point to perform for dumb audiences

11:08

who don't know comedy, right. But

11:10

I don't think you'll have that problem with Bob, because

11:13

I think Bob is Bob

11:15

is a classic example of someone who

11:18

I do think there is like there

11:20

was a universe I think of a period of time

11:23

in drag, especially where like

11:25

Bob probably could have just been a stand up.

11:28

I think though that it was

11:30

at a time when like stand up did not feel

11:32

super welcoming to Bob, and

11:35

he also has all these other amazing skills

11:37

that go into drag and et cetera, et

11:39

cetera. But I do think there are a lot of drag

11:41

queens that are so funny

11:43

that would have just gone the regular route

11:46

of stand up had stand up not

11:48

been so aggressively like

11:51

homophobic.

11:53

Well, do you remember me doing it. I

11:55

used to do clubs as a drag queen.

11:57

Oh I remember, I remember.

11:58

The improblem Nobody

12:01

that was a drag Yeah, no, it's and it

12:03

was it was.

12:05

But you know what, though, do you not feel

12:07

like you learned a lot from those experiences?

12:10

And like when I first started touring, Like

12:12

after Conan in twenty sixteen, I started

12:15

headlining clubs for the first time, and back

12:17

then, nobody cared if I lived or died, I

12:19

would go out on stage. No one had heard of me. Maybe

12:22

a few people from Twitter had come to see the

12:24

show, but nobody. And it really does teach

12:26

you how to do your gay shit in a way that

12:28

like is going to pop with a broader

12:30

audience, and like it really trains you

12:33

to like get the audience on your side

12:35

very quickly in a way that like I

12:37

think, if you stay doing I

12:40

understand the safety of wanting to only

12:42

do queer rooms, but like

12:45

or alt rooms for that matter, But like I

12:47

got, I became a much better comic.

12:50

And it was much scarier at times,

12:53

totally, but I became a much better comic

12:55

traveling in the country and doing like Zanies

12:57

in Nashville.

12:58

But I also like now that people come

13:00

to see me. I have spent

13:03

over a decade being the

13:05

only like not famous person or

13:07

being like the one that's like

13:09

the freak and the lineup that I am

13:12

always assuming that nobody knows

13:14

who I am and I have to explain everything. Yeah, and

13:16

then now people come to see me and I'm like, wait,

13:18

wait, you already knew it. I was, or like

13:20

you know what I mean.

13:21

But it's like you won't run into

13:23

this too, because I have to do this now too, where

13:25

it's like everybody knows I'm

13:27

adopted. Everybody knows my

13:29

parents are white, you know, like I spent

13:32

the first like ten years of my career

13:34

talking about the dysphoria of having

13:36

a white family and being a person

13:38

of color. But the thing, the fact

13:41

is, it's like I still can't go out

13:43

there and do jokes with that context

13:45

underlying things. I have to you

13:47

have to constantly find a new quick

13:49

way to like get everybody

13:52

on the same page without reusing

13:54

the same joke. And it becomes more and

13:56

more difficult every year because

13:59

I'm like, can you just all know

14:01

who I am at this point, like please,

14:03

like so you don't have to explain myself

14:05

and why I have this goofy ass fucking name

14:07

like it is. It's a trial,

14:09

It's a tribulation, you're telling me.

14:12

I don't know why I'm not the most famous personal.

14:14

I don't know either.

14:18

So Joel, we all know your

14:21

parents are Asian. You're

14:25

straight tell

14:28

me about ghosts.

14:29

Ghosts, okay, because here's the

14:31

thing.

14:32

I feel like, at some point

14:34

pre pandemic, I was like, hey, you

14:36

know to come up with podcasts about ghosts, and you were

14:39

like, I don't have

14:41

goat, I don't know about ghosts or something.

14:43

I don't know what you I think you said, get

14:45

out of my face. I think you

14:48

said I need a mirror that sees

14:50

the front and the back of me and leave

14:53

this dress I meeting.

14:54

If this was pre pandemic, then at the time

14:56

I probably did not have a ghost experience

14:59

to share, and I was probably feeling like, oh,

15:01

like, what would I go

15:03

on and talk on this podcast about.

15:05

I will say the only thing is the

15:07

only thing I will say that I had

15:10

probably to talk about that was ghost related

15:12

was I did do a podcast with a ghost debunker

15:15

once, but I will say his

15:17

debunking of it wasn't that like the

15:20

experiences that people have with ghosts

15:22

aren't real. What happens is

15:24

is that if something incredibly

15:27

violent or emotional or highly

15:29

charged happens in a space, it

15:31

will leave an imprint of energy

15:34

in that space, and it's more of an echo

15:36

like ghosts in his mind. They

15:38

are not like conscious beings that

15:41

are like left over wandering the earth

15:43

like trying to solve their like unfinished

15:45

business. It's just they are the echo

15:48

of the energy that was left behind

15:50

because they were murdered brutally there,

15:53

or because they had a huge connection to

15:55

that space, or because

15:57

you know, something along those lines,

15:59

or because they were highly connected to the people in

16:01

that space, you know. And so I

16:04

actually found that quite convincing.

16:06

I believe in that. I believe

16:08

in that, but I also feel

16:10

like it could be like you're

16:12

an invisible dead person that like it has full

16:14

thought, Like I think there could be more than one.

16:16

Yeah, no, no, not true, true, true, true.

16:18

There seems to be some ghosts

16:20

that like have no clue there a ghosts,

16:23

and that's what they call it, residual haunting. And they're

16:25

just sort of like just going about

16:27

their day and they probably in their mind, it's

16:29

like Nicole Kim and the others like they

16:32

don't like you're the

16:34

ghost, like right, But then

16:36

it seems like there's the ones that have the

16:38

ability to like call me

16:41

slurs or whatever, which I've also experienced,

16:43

and I think that that's more of an

16:45

intelligent being.

16:47

Yeah, No, with a consciousness, with a consciousness

16:49

for sure. Yeah, And

16:52

I don't know, I don't know exactly where

16:54

I fall. I mean, you have to like to set

16:56

things up to you have to understand, I come

16:58

from a very deep religious background.

17:01

What kind of evangelical Southern Baptist.

17:03

That sounds scary?

17:05

So the only kind of ghosts we were believing in

17:07

was the Holy ghost. Baby, you better believe that

17:09

there were no such things as ghosts going on

17:12

in our house. Demons they

17:14

were real.

17:15

Tell me about demons.

17:16

Demons were fully real. I mean, like I

17:18

remember when I was thirteen. I

17:21

you know, I struggled a lot growing

17:24

up, in part because I was deeply repressed

17:26

as a gay person in a very religious household

17:28

where I was homeschooled, et cetera, et cetera, kept

17:31

under lock and key also like

17:34

bipolar probably undiagnosed,

17:36

like probably all the way back then, you

17:39

know, experiencing emotional tumult

17:41

that I could not process and that my parents

17:44

refused to deal with, like they sent me to Christian

17:46

therapists that were like pray

17:49

and like be better, and

17:51

that was the extent of it. And

17:54

so like I remember at thirteen, I got in a fight

17:56

with my dad's so bad and I was like throwing

17:58

a tantrum so bad that he tried to exercise

18:01

me in the middle of the fight. This is

18:03

full disclosure. I believe in my first

18:06

Comedy Central special this joke. This

18:08

a bit about it, but it's a real story, and

18:10

it's funny in the bit because I remember being

18:12

like, you know, I started laughing

18:15

in his face when he started doing it. And

18:18

the joke is is that, like, well, that seems like

18:20

something a demon might do in that situation

18:23

if I was trying to like beat the rumors,

18:26

Like likely thing for a

18:28

demon to do is laugh during the exorcism.

18:31

Totally, which is what this is what I

18:33

think about twenty four to seven about

18:36

like as I go to these haunted places, every

18:38

once in a while, people will be like, be careful,

18:40

there's demons, like you're gonna what, and I'm

18:42

like, these are the same people

18:45

sometimes or at least there are

18:47

a lot of people out there that think trans

18:49

people gave people drag queens whatever, are

18:52

deep whatever.

18:54

And I'm like, if I encountered a demon,

18:57

it would probably be like top bottom verse,

18:59

Babe, I recognize the game, Like

19:01

they're gonna be like, Yeah, we were

19:04

feeling each other out, like so

19:06

what are you into?

19:06

Exactly?

19:07

What kind of demon are you?

19:08

Exactly exactly? But at

19:10

the time, like as much as I joked about it, like

19:12

it was really upsetting, it's I mean, it's a really

19:14

upsetting thing to your father think

19:17

that your behavior is so outrageous that

19:19

you were possessed by a demon. Yeah,

19:22

and so, like, demons were very present,

19:25

Like talk about demons was very present

19:27

in my childhood, and like I

19:30

am still to this day, I would

19:32

say, like I love horror movies. Love

19:35

horror movies. The ones that still

19:38

to this day make me a little

19:40

ooky googy are the ones that

19:42

are like The Omen and The Exorcist,

19:45

Like the ones that involve like basically

19:47

anything involving a Catholic church. Get

19:50

me the fuck out of there, Like, because

19:53

there is a little part of me that has

19:55

not unlearned the trauma that

19:57

I grew up with and I'm like, demons

19:59

are real. Demons are real, and they could they could

20:01

inhabit my body at any time.

20:03

Do you think if there was a demon

20:06

at the foot of your bed that

20:08

you would turn to the

20:10

Lord Jesus Christ?

20:12

Hmmm, No, I honestly,

20:14

I would probably do the opposite. I'd

20:16

be like, I'd be like, let's

20:18

team up, bitch. Do you imagine

20:21

us, let's collab, Let's collab

20:24

like get it like, get in here, get.

20:26

In here, girl, have your people call my

20:28

people, and we'll do a project.

20:31

Yeah, because I think I think I've burned

20:33

too many bridges with JC.

20:37

I don't know that he would be there to help me as

20:39

much as he, you know, proclaims to be like

20:41

always forgiving. I don't know about that now.

20:44

I do think Jesus would be like, oh

20:46

now you want me? Yeah, okay,

20:48

So you have since had

20:51

a ghost experience.

20:53

I have since had a ghost experience.

20:54

Wait, I should set this up here. I

20:56

am backstage at the Tribeca

20:59

film and

21:01

I'm sitting there with who

21:04

was it, Tig Nataro, Sandra.

21:07

Bernhard Dupper you named dropping bitch.

21:09

Margaret Chow, and

21:13

I'm chatting with my friend Joe Kimbooster

21:16

about ghosts. I think, I think Mark, I think my

21:18

friend Margaret was like, oh my

21:20

god, you guys you have to listen to Ross's

21:22

podcast. It's called ghost It. I've been on it,

21:24

and I'm like, Margaret, stop, I'm

21:26

embarrassing me. And then

21:29

and then Joel was like, I

21:31

live in a haunted house.

21:32

And I'm not just looking at my phone. I'm trying

21:34

to pull up the uh

21:37

your rider. No, what will become

21:40

very important later on

21:42

in this story, which is the receipt that

21:45

the ghostbuster sent me about my house.

21:48

Okay, why are you cheating on me with a Ghostbuster?

21:50

I know?

21:51

And you said this. You said this like

21:54

very early when I was explaining that, like

21:57

I wanted

21:59

to do this with a different Ghostbuster.

22:02

So basically what happened is this, I

22:05

purchased a house.

22:06

Congrats.

22:07

I am wealthy now and

22:10

very lucky, very lucky. It's in the

22:12

East Hollywood Hills, right around Universal.

22:15

I'm like, I'm actually giving too many details

22:17

about where I live right now. My neighbor is

22:19

Charlie XCX. Yeah,

22:23

there's also a lot of snakes over there. Yeah, there's

22:25

snakes, there's coyotes, there.

22:27

I used to walk around the

22:29

lake a lot, lots of celebrity

22:32

siding.

22:32

Yeah, there, I missed an opportunity

22:34

when you were like, there's lots of snakes over there, and

22:36

I was like, yeah, Caroline Policheck used to live

22:38

with her. Oh yeah,

22:42

bb Rexla lives in the neighborhood too. Talk

22:46

about snake. No. I love

22:48

BB.

22:49

I don't go to your neighborhood anymore

22:51

because one time I was supposed to

22:53

go on a hike with a friend. I

22:55

won't name drop, but it was a

22:57

friend of mine. Somebody

23:01

sent me a picture and they're like, good thing

23:03

you didn't go. It was the biggest snake I've ever

23:05

seen in my life.

23:06

It was j Loo. Actually, I've

23:08

never seen snakes over there. This is crazy to

23:10

me, even now I'm never leaving my house huge.

23:13

It was like I'm telling you ice

23:16

Cube, Owen Wilson, j lo Anacondas

23:19

whoof it was big?

23:22

That is crazy, So be careful, okay, because

23:24

there's rattle.

23:25

That's good to know. I don't like

23:27

that. But it's a lovely house.

23:29

I'm very grateful that I was able to afford

23:31

it. And as

23:34

I was getting the key handoff

23:36

from the previous owner, Miriam,

23:39

lovely woman. She has a stack

23:41

of pictures, okay, and she's like, this is a

23:43

fun tradition that everyone who's ever lived in the house

23:45

has done, which is like sort of take pictures

23:47

of themselves in the house from

23:49

the very beginning, from the jump.

23:52

Did you see the pictures? Yes, So she's there

23:54

like a thousand of them because there was scary

23:59

and they just go and go.

24:00

There were a ton of pictures because the house was built in

24:02

forties and it was built by a man

24:04

name Ralph I'll

24:06

call him.

24:07

And he owned Ralph.

24:10

Yes he was. Yeah, he's just one

24:12

of many Ralph's in the conglomerate

24:14

of Ralph's.

24:15

Okay, yeah, yeah.

24:17

But and so she started off with that

24:19

picture, black and white photo of Ralph

24:21

next to the house that he had just built. Ralph

24:23

built this house. He loved this house.

24:26

It was his like dream. And

24:28

she's going through showing me all the other

24:30

people who live in the house, the various ways the house

24:32

has looked over the years, and then she gets

24:35

to a point in the photos in like the

24:37

seventies and she's like, oh, weird,

24:39

that's funny, Like that looks

24:41

like Ralph, but he didn't live there then,

24:44

huh. And then she just continues

24:46

flipping the photos and I was like wait wait wait wait

24:48

wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait.

24:52

It's like, let's back up here. You

24:55

think that's Ralph And she's like, yeah,

24:57

it looks just like And we compare the photos.

24:59

It looked same, clothes, like it

25:01

looks I'll show you the photo the next.

25:03

But it's an owner. It

25:05

wasn't like a ghost picture.

25:07

It was mysterious

25:10

because she didn't know why

25:13

he would be there thirty years

25:15

later looking roughly

25:17

the same in the back in

25:19

the back of the yard, in the

25:21

back of the yard of this photo, okay.

25:24

And she literally said to me, she was like, that's

25:26

weird. Ra else shouldn't be there. Flip

25:29

flip flip. And I was like, this

25:31

is the scene in the horror movie. Yeah, when

25:34

like you realize, like this is like midway

25:37

through the horror movie where they go to the house and they're

25:39

like, oh my god, he's been dead the whole time. This person

25:41

that I've been communicating with, But.

25:44

This was the owner, not a

25:46

realtor or.

25:47

No, no, no, no, this was the owner. The previous the

25:49

woman who owned the house before me. Okay, and

25:51

then she gets to the end of the photos and she's like,

25:53

you know, be sure to take some photos of yourself in

25:55

the house to add to the stack and then give the stack to

25:58

the next people. And I didn't think much

26:00

of it. I just thought it was like Ralph didn't appear

26:02

in any of the other photos, so I

26:04

was like, this must be just some weird coincidence,

26:07

like some guy who looks just like him, like

26:09

in the background of the photos. Like whatever, Well,

26:12

like, I'm not going to worry about it. I have a house

26:14

dream come true. Never in a million years thought

26:16

this would happen for me.

26:18

What does Ralph look like or what did

26:20

he?

26:21

I think it is like German, He's like it

26:23

weirdly looks like my dad because

26:26

famously again adopted Okay,

26:31

but.

26:31

Just like a tall told

26:33

me time when

26:36

he filled me in on that.

26:37

Fact, just like a tall, Germanic,

26:40

sturdy looking guy, slightly

26:44

older and by the time he built

26:46

the house, but probably fifties

26:48

sixties, maybe by the time he finished

26:50

the house, I don't know, So like that

26:52

was what made it extra strange that he would be

26:54

in a photo that she believed took place

26:57

in the seventies when he built the house in the

26:59

forties at an already

27:01

old age.

27:02

I also forget that people that aren't famous

27:04

live in the Hollywood Hills. Yeah,

27:06

there's also like doctors.

27:08

Told the normal people and in fact, let

27:10

me tell you, they're all fucking nightmares,

27:12

and I hate every single fucking one of them.

27:15

I have been I'm on like the the I

27:17

have been websites.

27:18

Banned from next door. I've

27:21

been banned from next door for being aggressive

27:24

and for calling people out for caring

27:26

about shit that they are caring about the

27:28

wrong shit, and specifically

27:30

about the way they talk about un house people, which

27:33

is not a probably my neighborhood whatsoever.

27:36

But no, I'm banned from nextdoor, from

27:38

my neighborhood on nextdoor. I guess if

27:41

I moved, I might be allowed in a new neighborhood

27:43

on nextdoor, but I'm not exactly sure. But

27:46

I feel very righteously

27:48

like okay with being banned from next door

27:50

for what I did, because I was like, no, I

27:52

couldn't, I could not deal

27:55

with the entitlement, and like

27:57

like it's just not the world that I come from, and like

27:59

I'm very lucky to be a homeowner. If I was

28:02

not on one failed NBC sitcom

28:04

that lasted one season, I would not

28:06

be a homeowner today. Like I mean, God bless

28:08

Lout and Fire Island too. But like, seriously,

28:11

I am not the kind of person with

28:13

a kind of background that should own a home right

28:16

now. And boy did I bring that energy

28:18

to the next door. But

28:22

yeah, no, it was crazy.

28:24

The people that are previous

28:26

owners were any

28:28

of them famous.

28:30

There was an so the last guy who

28:33

who remodeled the house in the nineties

28:35

the house hasn't been remodeled since the nineties was

28:38

an NBA player. I don't know his name, but

28:40

he was an NBA player. But because of that,

28:43

all the counters are

28:45

just like, like slightly,

28:48

I would say four inches too

28:51

tall for me and my boyfriend six

28:53

my fiance rather is six two, and

28:57

he loves it. He loves it. But

28:59

you should see me try to take my contacts

29:01

out at our bathroom stake, which is also

29:04

too high. It's like I need

29:06

like a little steps to like get close. It's

29:08

so embarrassing.

29:11

But yeah, I think he might be the closest

29:13

because I did ask Miriam. I was like, do you know if any anyone

29:16

famous ever lived in this house, and she was like, I don't

29:18

think so. I think I'm I probably am

29:20

the most famous person to live in this house. And

29:24

and like that's not saying a lot

29:26

because I don't know what this basketball

29:28

player I mean clearly like he couldn't have been that good

29:30

of a basketball player if he was living in this house,

29:33

you know.

29:33

But okay, we gotta get to the ghost.

29:35

Okay, yeah, we have to get to Okay.

29:37

So you move in weird situation

29:40

with Miriam, A.

29:40

Weird situation with things

29:43

are things are going fine, I

29:45

will say, you know, things

29:48

that are explainable start happening. Okay,

29:51

you know it's a it's a It's one of those

29:53

houses where like you enter on

29:55

the second floor and then you

29:58

go downstairs to the bedrooms, and

30:01

constantly I would like have

30:03

this picture hanging up on my fridge

30:07

of me and my partner and

30:10

fully stable magnet.

30:12

It's a picture, it's not heavy. We

30:15

would like be downstairs in

30:17

our bedroom and just hear a crash

30:20

and I'd come upstairs and

30:22

the photo would be and it was like a sturdy

30:24

magnet. It was like one of those you know, those like

30:27

graphite r rock magnets

30:30

like the amethyst like magnets

30:33

that you get at the Natural History Museum.

30:35

It's one of those, and that's why we could hear it and

30:37

it would crash. And then like things started

30:39

happening where we would hear stuff

30:42

upstairs and I thought maybe

30:44

like an animal had gotten into the house or something

30:46

like that. It was very strange. I bought

30:48

I bought a baseball bat good

30:51

to have next to my bed,

30:53

just in case. My boyfriend hates

30:55

it. It gives him nightmares. But

30:58

I I wanted to have it because

31:01

I just kept thinking, like, what's going on? And

31:03

I should say around this time too, someone

31:06

my air conditioner is in the front of my house

31:08

and is broken. It makes a lot of noise.

31:10

It makes a lot of noise. I get

31:12

a Grinder message from someone with no profile,

31:16

zero feed away that just says, Wow,

31:19

your ac is really loud. What

31:21

yeah? And then he blocks me. And

31:23

the thing is is is a horror

31:26

felt for those of you who don't know

31:28

about Grinder or some of these apps.

31:30

The geolocation is not that

31:33

specifically. He had to

31:35

know I was in that house,

31:37

and it's not that easy to discern

31:40

on grinder, Like you

31:42

can be zero feet away from somebody, but that doesn't

31:44

mean you know which house they're in, right,

31:46

right.

31:47

Like if you're in a big hotel, yeah, check

31:49

ground.

31:49

There's like to if you're connected to the same Wi

31:51

Fi network, oftentimes it'll be like your

31:54

zero feet away from somebody, and like it doesn't

31:56

give you that like specific

31:59

instructions. That's the movie Scream

32:01

but no, and that

32:03

that is why I have the baseball bat. Because my partner

32:06

is like terrified because like you know,

32:08

like listen, I've said some incendiary things

32:10

online. I am not the most popular

32:13

person online in certain circles, and

32:16

you know, it was just so weird and specifically

32:19

you're, wow, your air condition is real

32:21

loud and very scarry. So

32:24

onwards too, the real meat of the story.

32:26

So little things are happening

32:28

and we're like, whatever, this

32:31

is normal stuff that's happening.

32:34

I'm in the basement. I'm doing laundry.

32:36

The washer dryer is right in front of

32:39

the door, okay, and I'm

32:41

changing over the laundry from the washer

32:43

to the dryer. And I turn around as

32:45

I'm changing the laundry and a

32:48

man walks by the door.

32:50

I am talking like I thought

32:53

there was a man in my house.

32:55

He walked very fast by the door.

32:58

I made a noise. My partner,

33:00

he was like, I have never heard you make

33:02

a noise even close to

33:05

the noise that you just made. Like

33:08

it was a genuine like

33:12

he said, it was kind of funny because

33:14

like he wasn't sure if it was

33:16

real or not, because it was like a very deep

33:19

masculine screen and you'd

33:21

think, you think with me that, like

33:23

my natural inclination and fear would

33:25

be like, yeah, you know,

33:28

but it was much more.

33:29

Like, oh, okay, that was hot.

33:31

Yeah I know. But he came

33:33

running downstairs and I was like, did you see

33:35

him? Did you see him?

33:38

And he was like, what are you talking about? Because he walked

33:40

towards our bathroom, which is a dead end. And

33:42

I was like, John Michael,

33:44

I swear to you, I am not making

33:47

this up to scare you. There was a

33:49

man in our house. Just now,

33:52

like, straight up, there was a man in our

33:54

house. And I will never

33:56

forget the image of this for the rest

33:58

of my life. He was where exactly

34:01

what Ralph was wearing in the picture,

34:03

like a flannel like jeans

34:05

and a flannel like again similar to

34:07

my dad, like a work shirt and

34:09

like jeans and boots

34:11

and like I mean, I it was quick.

34:14

So like I can't say for certain that it's

34:16

exactly the same thing that Ralph

34:18

was wearing in the photo, but it was close enough.

34:20

It's like something he was.

34:22

It was something he it was definitely something

34:24

he would have worn. And I will say this,

34:27

I did not get malevolence

34:29

from this presence. It was just

34:31

shocking to me. I

34:34

just felt like he was there, you

34:36

know, and from that point forward,

34:39

we were on the lookout.

34:41

In your opinion, do you think

34:43

that that goes back to what we were talking about

34:45

earlier, with a ghost that doesn't realize

34:47

there a ghost.

34:48

It's just like I don't think he realizes he's

34:50

a ghost, Okay. I think that this was such

34:52

a labor of love for him, that building

34:55

this house. I think he was an immigrant. I think

34:57

from what Miriam has told me, I I

35:00

think this was like a dream of his to build

35:02

this house. And he finally, after

35:05

many years, after much

35:07

saving, was able to build his own

35:09

house in Hollywood,

35:12

in California. And I did

35:14

that.

35:14

I would not leave right exactly.

35:16

I would say I paid this money. I don't

35:18

care if I'm living or dead, I'm gonna

35:20

be in this damn house. So now

35:22

here's one more thing I want to put out. Though, because

35:25

of remodeling and stuff. I bet you

35:27

you said that was a dead end. It probably wasn't a

35:29

dead end in his mind. He's

35:31

just going, Oh my god, you're right.

35:34

Yeah, that's why I do what

35:36

I do.

35:37

That's interesting, that's really interesting. I hadn't even

35:39

thought about that. So

35:41

that happened John Michael

35:44

a little like suspicious sort

35:46

of like what how much did

35:48

you smoke? Like? What sativa? Were

35:50

you? What? What was the strain, bab what

35:52

was the strain? You know? Like, and

35:55

he doesn't necessarily believe me. And

35:57

then a couple months later after that,

36:00

I get home, I think

36:02

John Michael's home. Did he

36:04

goes in the office like twice a week, so like it's

36:06

it's never and it's never regular, So I always

36:09

just assume that he's home when I come home and

36:11

I'm standing in the kitchen and I'm going through my

36:13

mail, and I feel,

36:16

and I swear to God, this was not a muscle

36:18

spasm, This was not a

36:20

cramp. I feel someone come

36:22

up behind me and grab me right

36:25

here on the side on like where

36:27

like a love handle exist.

36:30

I wasn't Joe kam booth

36:32

right grab me fully,

36:35

and I thought it was John Michael sneaking up

36:37

on me to surprise me. But

36:39

I was completely alone. I

36:42

was like freaking out in like

36:44

close to tears honestly because I was

36:46

like, I don't know, and again,

36:49

no malevolence, just

36:51

like someone trying to be like, hey, I'm.

36:53

Here, but still there's a way to

36:55

do it.

36:56

I know. And I'm also like, don't touch me. That's

36:58

don't touch me.

37:00

My biggest problem with ghosts. They don't ask

37:02

for consent. Nope, and and the touching

37:04

is my biggest Yeah, I don't want

37:07

that, don't like that, didn't appreciate

37:09

that. And then this started

37:11

happening, which is when we really

37:13

got concerned because up

37:17

until this point, John Michael had not really experienced

37:19

any of these things, like he'd experienced

37:21

like things that shouldn't have fallen, falling

37:24

things like that. But again, he's

37:26

a much more like logically.

37:28

Minded, like you know, computer

37:31

brain person, and

37:34

so he was not on the ghost train

37:36

at all. And then suddenly,

37:38

like every once in a while I

37:41

would be downstairs in like my office

37:43

or in the bedroom and I would hear someone

37:46

run across the living room. Okay,

37:49

I like when ghosts run run

37:51

across the living room, and I thought it was John

37:53

Michael. And then I

37:56

like started noticing it would happen

37:58

when he wasn't home or when he was like in

38:00

the same room as me, and I was like, babe, did you hear

38:02

that? And he was like yeah, And that's when i'd

38:04

like get the bat because I assumed

38:07

someone was in our fucking house. And

38:10

then I was gone. I was doing work

38:12

somewhere and John

38:14

Michael was home alone, sitting in the living

38:17

room. I don't know if

38:19

he was watching TV or what happened,

38:21

but he heard someone

38:23

run across the room in the

38:26

same way that we've heard several

38:28

times. But he was in

38:30

the room. He was

38:33

in the room, and he could hear the person

38:35

very clearly run in front of him

38:38

across the room, the same path that

38:40

we had been hearing for like

38:43

weeks or months at this point. Yeah,

38:46

and that's when he got really freaked out. That's

38:48

when he finally became a believer because

38:50

he was like a little bit,

38:52

a little bit because I felt a little justified.

38:54

I felt a little justified and so it

38:57

was time to do something. And what I

39:00

decided to do was this because I have a couple

39:02

of friends who as a joke

39:04

gift several years ago, I think during

39:07

probably lockdown, my friend got

39:10

my other friend a certificate for this

39:12

woman who's a ghostbuster, professional ghostbuster

39:15

to ghostbust his house. She does certificates,

39:18

she does gift certificates. I need to do that, Yeah

39:20

you do. She does it all remotely

39:23

from Florida, does

39:25

not come to your house, does not zoom

39:27

with you, just talks to you, doesn't

39:30

ask for a picture of your house. Okay,

39:32

she just knows. She's just into

39:35

it.

39:35

Okay, this is great. I'm I'm over

39:37

here at scheme made And of course, like this

39:39

all.

39:40

Start is a little bit of a joke. This all started

39:42

is a little bit of a joke, like, oh, this woman, Like.

39:44

But did a friend go to her? Where

39:46

does she come from?

39:47

She? I don't know how she was discovered

39:49

originally, but my friend

39:52

was given the gift card for her and

39:54

he used her first and like we

39:56

joke, joke, joke, joke, joke because they're like

39:58

when she did his house and some

40:01

of your listeners might know who I'm talking about I'm

40:03

not going to name names, but this has been told on

40:05

his podcast and other podcasts. But

40:08

like there was a ghost trial happening

40:10

in his house that she was aware of. There,

40:15

you know, like someone was being put on trial

40:17

by other ghosts. There was a ghost jury.

40:20

Wait, what was this? What you don't want to

40:22

say that, but they said it on their podcast.

40:25

It was Brian Sofie.

40:26

Okay, I've talked to him about his ghosts. I never heard

40:28

about the ghost trial.

40:30

Yeah, well, talk to him about the ghost trial. And

40:34

of course another friend of mine

40:37

uses the same woman again

40:39

sort of as a joke, but this is a thing like

40:41

her son would not

40:44

sleep in his room

40:46

three years old, would not sleep in his room, said

40:48

there's something in that room. I will not

40:50

go near it. Please do not make

40:52

me go in that room. And she like

40:55

start like whatever, She let him sleep

40:57

wherever he wanted. And then suddenly

41:00

like she mentions it to her nanny,

41:02

who's Hispanic or Latino,

41:05

and she was like, oh, yeah, yeah, the devil's room.

41:09

I like put a glass of water in

41:11

that room, Like I don't go in that room. I don't go

41:14

in that room. There's evil in that room.

41:17

And then another friend mentioned that

41:19

like they had walked by that room and someone had

41:21

tried to pull them into that room. Oh my

41:23

god, and so she

41:25

used this woman hang on. So

41:28

the devil, the one that

41:30

we've heard about all these years, is

41:32

in a child's bedroom. I don't know if it

41:34

was Florida the devil. I don't know if it was the no

41:37

no, And this is not in Florida. This is in La.

41:39

Oh that makes sense.

41:41

She does it remotely from Florida.

41:43

Her work goes so, but

41:45

it's all in La got

41:48

it. Child goes in the room and

41:50

says, all right, it's good,

41:52

but you need to tell her to get the vent too, and

41:56

get the vent. And but

41:58

what is she doing like remotely,

42:02

she's doing a lot of things. Okay,

42:04

and I'll read you. I'm trying to find the receipt

42:06

the breakdown.

42:08

That she's like a menu

42:10

of different events arise.

42:15

Let me see if I can find it. Honestly,

42:21

I kind of I don't know. I believe

42:23

it, Okay, So this is I'm going to read you just the

42:25

receipt that she gave me after she did my home.

42:27

Okay, So this is the basic breakdown.

42:30

Remove the following possessions from

42:33

each of you. Joel forty six,

42:35

John Michael forty eight. Two

42:37

more possessions than I had.

42:39

Oh that's how many possessions?

42:40

Yeah, I don't. I don't know why he got

42:42

two more possessions than I did.

42:44

Are you a little jealous?

42:45

A little jealous?

42:46

Yeah? Like what's wrong with me?

42:47

I know exactly what's wrong. Like, look

42:49

at the material. Honestly,

42:53

maybe race based, but I'm

42:56

not going to go there, dumb. None

42:59

were demonic type energies, more

43:02

like ghost energies. So that's nice.

43:04

That's nice to hear that.

43:05

We weren't forty eight people.

43:07

Yeah, now here's this would be my problem.

43:09

I go, is one of them funny?

43:11

Because if you take that out, I

43:13

need that, I

43:16

know, bring her back, bring

43:18

her back, And it is a her. The

43:20

funny one was a her.

43:22

Course of course, we know that.

43:24

Okay, remove twenty

43:26

eight discarnate energies from your house

43:28

again, ghost type energies. I

43:31

have fully cleared the property. And then

43:33

here's the rest of the receipt. Okay. Other

43:36

energies, including various portals,

43:39

are covered below. All

43:41

negative energies were removed or fixed

43:43

in some way as no longer affect

43:45

the property. Six negative portals

43:47

cleared and closed if inside, cleared

43:49

and left open if outside. Two

43:52

portals to the underworld closed and sealed.

43:54

One intergalactic hole blocked.

43:57

Twenty five ceialing portals closed. One

44:00

mirror portal in the primary bedroom

44:02

closed. Which I do have a mirror,

44:05

a big mirror in the primary bedroom, and

44:08

we did have weird

44:11

instances with it. So I'll say that she

44:13

didn't see an I'll give her that. I'll give

44:15

her that she doesn't even she doesn't even have a picture of

44:17

my house. Okay, she didn't even have a fucking

44:19

picture. She might have looked it up on zillow,

44:22

but like, that's it. The

44:24

closet seems to have two very large mirrors

44:26

on it, mirrors both projecting

44:28

out into a space and reflect back what's

44:31

going on in a space. I often recommend

44:33

to change out the close the closet

44:35

mirror doors for something non reflective

44:37

and find another location for a mirror that helps

44:39

you dress. Okay. Eight negative vortices

44:42

with one matrix card cleared and turned

44:44

positive. Dimensional energy is removed,

44:47

one plugged lay line cleared, One

44:50

non beneficial geopathic zone neutralized.

44:53

Twenty eight interference lines blocked,

44:55

three energy walls removed, dark

44:57

blobs removed, one all

45:00

dark being removed.

45:02

But what she took your dark blobs.

45:04

She took the blobs, She took the blobs,

45:07

she took it all.

45:07

She took your blobs in her intergalactic

45:10

hole.

45:10

Yeah, but one

45:12

tall dark being removed, which

45:15

is notable. The

45:18

possessions targets. We

45:20

each had targets on us from the underworld.

45:23

I had twenty one targets on me again.

45:25

John Michael had twenty four targets on him.

45:27

They love him.

45:28

I don't get it.

45:30

What do you mean you're engaged to this person?

45:32

I know, but like, why

45:34

not me? Anyways, And

45:36

then we were tagged as well, and

45:39

I had thirty six tags removed. John Michael

45:41

had thirty nine tags.

45:42

What does that mean? Tag?

45:43

Donna couldn't tell you? And

45:45

I have added for clarification. I've I've texted

45:48

her and asked for clarification,

45:50

I have yet to receive. I need

45:52

to follow up, and I should have done that before I came in

45:54

here to figure out what some of these things mean. So

45:58

she does this and does this, and

46:00

then you're allowed one more

46:02

follow up, Okay, if in case

46:05

she misses something a tune up, you

46:07

know, set, hence the like she needs to get

46:09

the vent too right, which

46:11

I will say, my friend with that son, he sleeps

46:13

in that room. It's all fine and gravy now, But

46:16

here's the rub. Okay,

46:18

here is the rub. We have not

46:21

heard nor seen Ralph.

46:23

The footsteps are gone. I have not seen

46:26

the presence. I have not even felt a presence. I

46:28

do feel later in my house. It's weird.

46:30

It's weird. I do feel more comfortable

46:32

in my house alone at night. It's strange,

46:35

but my boyfriend has

46:38

had many reoccurring

46:41

dreams of a man standing

46:43

just outside in our backyard.

46:46

So our our primary bedroom

46:48

has these like sliding glass doors that lead

46:50

out to our backyard, and my

46:52

boyfriend has had many dreams

46:55

of a man that, as described

46:57

to me, sounds like the same man.

46:59

That I saw walk the hallway flannel.

47:02

Standing in the middle of our yard, or

47:04

standing right up against the door as

47:07

though he's trying to get back in.

47:09

Yes, she probably was like, you gotta go outside,

47:11

but you know he's so he's still

47:14

a ghost.

47:14

Yeah, I mean he's still and now he's probably pissed

47:17

at us because he's just got the fucking

47:19

yard, and boy, ol boy, when we put a pool in,

47:21

he's gonna be furious.

47:25

Now, Okay, just because

47:27

I have a lot of people that are very into

47:29

the stuff that listen to this podcast, they're

47:31

gonna be like, you know, you

47:34

got rid of this ghost and he wasn't

47:36

doing anything wrong or whatever.

47:38

My personal opinion, whoever's paying

47:41

the bills is the one in charge

47:43

of who's gonna be in my house.

47:45

I had the same concern too, because I explained

47:47

to her, I said, listen, I'm not getting

47:49

malevolence. It's not giving malevolence. Okay,

47:52

Like it's creepy, it's uncomfortable,

47:55

but like whatever, and

47:57

she was like, I am simply setting him

48:00

free, Like I am like releasing

48:02

him from this loop. Like I think

48:04

she probably is more on the side

48:06

of the debunker that I mentioned at the

48:08

top, where it was like, he just has this

48:11

deep connection to this house because he loved this

48:13

house and he doesn't even know he's dead. Yeah.

48:15

See that's the thing. This scenario

48:17

seems like the residual

48:20

haunting. It's just he's running, he's

48:23

walking where there used to not be a dead end.

48:25

He's grabbing at my love handles, you

48:27

know, like, but she

48:31

like assured me that

48:33

she was simply setting him free from the cycle

48:35

of this home. And so I

48:38

hope that is the case. And I hope that my

48:40

boyfriend's dreams are not indicative

48:44

of this man

48:47

trying to get back

48:49

into the house.

48:50

Are you gonna tell her you got to get the backyard?

48:53

I actually might, I actually might follow up

48:55

with her. It's been a minute. I might. I might miss

48:58

my window, and but I might pay for it

49:00

again. Listen, And I'm

49:02

not gonna tell you how much I paid for this woman.

49:05

I'm not gonna tell you, but

49:07

let me tell you. Uh.

49:10

It is one of those yeah, I've made it

49:12

moments because I

49:14

could afford to do something almost

49:17

as a bit like because

49:19

I could have had you do the word.

49:21

But it worked. See now, I can never promise

49:24

anybody that I'm gonna help anything, right. I

49:26

just want the content right right

49:28

at the end of the day, I want to get a go

49:30

And why.

49:31

Do you think we did this too? Like I wanted

49:33

the receipt. I wanted to see the receipt and

49:35

see how many stories, see

49:38

how many blobs she removed, et cetera,

49:40

et cetera. But

49:42

like she's helped my friend in

49:45

an immeasurable way. The

49:48

sun sleeps in the room now, you know, you

49:50

can't explain it, like the dog is not freaking

49:52

out about the room anymore. It's very strange.

49:55

It's very unusual, Like

49:58

we always want a professional

50:00

to help us with a specific problem that we don't

50:03

understand, whether it's like a health problem or a

50:05

legal problem, whatever it is. But when you have a

50:08

ghost, you're like, who do I turn to? And there's

50:10

various ways. You can go the priest

50:12

route, you can go the blob removal whatever

50:14

it is. And since

50:16

we don't know how all this works, I do think

50:18

some of it is like a it has

50:20

some connection to our brain. It seems I don't

50:23

know what it is whatever. But I

50:25

really think like if it would make

50:27

me feel better to pay someone to

50:30

just be like it's gone now, I would probably

50:32

believe that.

50:33

Well, no, and this is my this is this

50:36

is sort of a theory

50:39

or a framework that I've stolen from my boyfriend,

50:41

which I believe really truly, which

50:43

is both astrology and

50:45

say taro for instance. I

50:48

don't think there's any intrinsic magic

50:50

in either of those things. But if it

50:52

gives you a framework to look

50:54

at your life and it helps you in some

50:56

way. Then hell yeah, pull

50:59

your Tarot card every day because it does.

51:01

Like that's all it is. It's just it's

51:03

just giving you a framework to look at

51:05

your life and process your life and

51:08

maybe don't make any like major

51:10

decisions based on you know, pulling

51:13

the six of cups cart that day.

51:16

But it does, Like every time that I've

51:18

had my Tarot red it just

51:20

makes me think about a situation in my life

51:22

in a much different way. And that alone

51:25

is helpful, and so like you know,

51:27

and and it's I think it's similar in

51:30

this way. I mean, I spend a lot more money

51:32

than I needed to to get that sort of relief, but

51:34

like it is psychological,

51:36

and I do think that psychologically, I

51:39

feel less scared in my home alone.

51:41

Now hell yeah, we're

51:43

crystals too, are like another one where

51:45

I'm like, first of all, they're gorgeous. Yeah,

51:48

if you want to tell me that this, you know

51:50

I have, this is going to keep a demon away?

51:53

Yes, I'd rather

51:55

have it.

51:56

Yeah, exactly, what's the worst that can

51:58

happen? Oh?

51:59

I have a pretty rock Yeah, who gives

52:01

a shit?

52:02

It's best case scenario, it keeps

52:04

the demon out. Worst case scenario, you

52:06

have a beautiful rock and the demon would

52:08

have got you. Anyways, there you go.

52:11

Now, it's interesting that you had a

52:13

crystal magnet.

52:15

That's amethyst. Yeah.

52:18

I theorize maybe

52:22

he was looking for a threutle.

52:26

Yeah, because you know what, That's what I never got

52:29

clear from Miriam was if

52:31

Ralph was ever married or had a family. I don't

52:34

think he did. I don't think he did,

52:36

and I don't think he was able to pass down the house

52:39

to anyone if

52:41

I if I remember the story.

52:43

Correctly, eligible bachelor.

52:46

Yeah, coming out behind the house

52:48

was his family.

52:50

And I kicked him.

52:54

No, I feel kind of guilty.

52:56

You didn't kick him out, You just made him

52:58

really backyard.

52:59

Yeah, released him to the backyard.

53:02

Released him to the backyard. He's an outdoor cat.

53:04

Now, let the coyotes deal

53:06

with him.

53:08

But you know, he might have wanted

53:11

he might have wanted, you know, to

53:13

join the relationship.

53:16

And you know what, if I got a better look at.

53:17

Him, That's that's the thing.

53:20

It's all marketing. It's just like dating

53:22

apps. You have to put your

53:24

best foot forward or I'm gonna swipe

53:27

I will swipe you out of here and put you in the backyard.

53:30

But when you were

53:32

in this situation where you like, I

53:35

want this ghost gone, or

53:37

were you just like trying to figure it out?

53:39

Like I mean, I think

53:41

for us at first it was much

53:43

more about like, what is happening

53:46

and is this Ralph right?

53:49

Like are we wrong? Because that was the

53:51

other thing, like we were like Ralph

53:53

made the most sense, you know,

53:55

based on the pictures, that's based

53:58

on the bill.

53:58

You know for sure that it was Ralph exactly.

54:01

You don't know that exactly.

54:03

And this it could be these

54:05

damn portals and blobs and.

54:07

Whatever lay lines and things like

54:09

that whole My friends, she said

54:11

that she got a unicorn out of her

54:14

house and a dragon out of her

54:16

house.

54:17

You know what, for everyone,

54:19

a.

54:20

Mother dragon was removed from

54:22

her house.

54:23

Now, who was that ghost? Someone

54:25

that was Game of Thrones, an

54:28

old dragon that was out of work, that died

54:30

in that house.

54:31

Dragon's gonna be in houses, I know. I just

54:35

yeah, I think I'm like, I'm I'm

54:37

better safe than sorry. Yes, you know,

54:39

especially now that he's appearing to my boyfriend

54:41

in dreams. I'm sort of like, okay,

54:44

but I also want to say emotional cheating. Yeah,

54:47

seriously, fuck him if you want him,

54:50

but just like.

54:51

About him every night when I'm right next to you, Chapel

54:55

Roone. You know, people, people

54:58

are freaky when you're in the public and

55:01

to have to always be on guard

55:04

in your own home that you pay for

55:07

and you're hearing people running in your house,

55:09

yeah, and you're seeing strange men in

55:12

your basement. I don't blame

55:14

you for wanting to and that.

55:16

That's the number of times I ran upstairs

55:19

because I thought my boyfriend was home and

55:21

like running across the living room floor

55:23

and no one was there.

55:25

No, when not when it's your home.

55:27

Yeah, it was crazy. I am so glad

55:29

I was not there to witness

55:32

the running in the same room.

55:34

That is that would have I think

55:37

that would have I mean seeing I saw

55:39

him, so like, I still think I win

55:41

a little bit, But like I

55:44

think, like if I was in that room

55:46

and I heard someone that I could not

55:48

see run across the room, it

55:51

would have ruined me. We would have had to move.

55:54

I hate that. Yeah,

55:56

Joe, Yeah, can I show you

55:59

a haunted doll?

56:00

You can? You certainly can? I Oh,

56:02

I fucking hate this shit.

56:04

Oh, it's fun the way I do it.

56:07

It's time for a segment I like to call the

56:09

dolls are living.

56:13

So what I do is I go to eBay

56:16

dot com and I type in

56:18

the words haunted doll. Surprisingly,

56:20

actually not surprisingly, this was not gonna be surprising

56:23

to you, especially after that

56:25

invoice you just told me about. But

56:27

there are thousands of haunted

56:30

dolls that people are selling

56:32

for money online. And

56:35

the great thing about them they always have pictures,

56:38

and they have bios,

56:40

and the bios usually

56:43

the belief is when you die,

56:46

your choices are heaven hell haunted

56:48

e Bay doll. Okay, that's

56:51

what I think. That's how I interpret this. And

56:53

so this is a person that was

56:56

once living now somehow is

56:58

in this haunted doll. Okay, do you like

57:00

my Liberaci doll?

57:01

By the way, now, dude, he has

57:03

been giving me the

57:07

vibe the whole time.

57:08

But yeah, well let's talk about he's

57:10

saying room for one more okay,

57:14

uh jeeha. Can you please show

57:16

us Emma you got it?

57:18

Ros Emma is currently going for seventy

57:21

dollars. WHOA, that's

57:23

Emma. She's she might

57:25

not be what you were expecting, because.

57:27

Usually expecting at all.

57:29

We are usually expecting lots

57:31

of you know, ruffles and lace, kind

57:34

of medieval. Now, this lady,

57:37

this appears to be an older

57:40

woman.

57:40

I saw her on the bus recently. She

57:44

lives in La like she does

57:47

look like. First of all, she's very

57:49

uh liberal. Oh she is

57:52

the head of the h OA like she

57:56

is.

57:58

I think paper mache.

58:00

She just appears to be an

58:03

older woman.

58:04

Beautiful green eyes, gorgeous,

58:07

beautiful green eyes.

58:08

I like this kind of woman.

58:10

Actually, are you too? And you know she

58:12

wears a mask outside too, Yeah,

58:15

you know she's still masking outside.

58:17

Absolutely, and she is. She's

58:20

got she's.

58:21

Clutching a ticket. She's clutching

58:23

a ticket to the Hollywood Bowl where she wore

58:25

a mask outside.

58:27

To see who probably,

58:30

Oh my god, it is a ticket.

58:32

What is that? Jimmy Buffett,

58:35

Jimmy Buffett. I bet she's

58:37

a parrot head. This woman is a parrot

58:39

head. I believe she has a Kamala

58:41

sign in her front yard.

58:43

Yeah. Oh death death.

58:46

Oh, she's got a little feet.

58:48

She's got she looks like she has compression.

58:50

Sucks definitely, she

58:52

just got off a plane. She needs.

58:54

This is where I'm like, what is the story

58:56

of this was this someone's art project, Like,

58:58

I don't know what.

59:00

This is based off of a person. I

59:02

think this was a doll meant

59:04

to look like a very specific person

59:07

and they gifted it to her. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

59:09

And I think the ticket, and I think the hat,

59:12

and I think all of the little details the green

59:14

eyes green is not an eye

59:16

color that is often picked first

59:19

for a doll like this. I

59:21

think these are very specific details and they were

59:23

meant for a specific person.

59:25

And she does have a big hat

59:27

with flowers on it. I love this

59:29

woman. I can't wait for the day

59:31

that I am this woman. Yeah,

59:34

okay, So Emma has

59:36

a pretty short bio. It

59:39

just says Emma is a very special

59:41

haunted vessel. She comes

59:43

from a friend of mine who claimed.

59:44

She was evil. Oh.

59:46

Since bringing her into the home, I do

59:49

hear bangs every now and then,

59:52

but I have mostly had good

59:54

luck with her. Yes, you

59:56

still hear weird stuff around her, but

1:00:00

that's what haunted items usually

1:00:02

come with, so be careful.

1:00:05

And it says in all caps, I do not know

1:00:07

if this is absolutely

1:00:10

a positive spirit. Well,

1:00:12

yeah, that's fair.

1:00:13

I mean, we why would you never want to invite

1:00:15

that into your home.

1:00:17

I just don't understand loneliness.

1:00:20

It really does seem like someone who is

1:00:22

like, let's lay a match, baby, let's

1:00:25

light a match. You see it burn?

1:00:28

You know, like nothing else going on, might

1:00:31

as well have a little adventure.

1:00:33

And you're taking a gamble. Yeah, it's

1:00:35

you never know what you're going to get. It

1:00:37

really is so similar to online dating

1:00:40

and all of that, Like you just don't

1:00:42

know if it's going to be a horrible,

1:00:45

horrible experience or.

1:00:47

You're just gonna hear a couple of bumps and noises

1:00:49

and it'll be weird.

1:00:50

Yeah, or are you going to get that into

1:00:53

galactic hole removed? So

1:00:56

anyway, that's Emma seventy dollars for

1:00:58

anyone in the market. Okay,

1:01:00

let's do one more thing. Can I

1:01:02

play you some ghost voices?

1:01:04

Please?

1:01:05

It's time for EVP

1:01:09

or ev please

1:01:13

EVP Electronic Voice Phenomenal.

1:01:15

It's when people

1:01:17

believe they've captured a ghosts familiar.

1:01:20

I've gotten some of those on my talk boy

1:01:23

and you know what, do you know what talk boy

1:01:25

is?

1:01:26

Talk boy?

1:01:26

Yeah? How old are you?

1:01:28

According to Wikipedia, I'm a few years younger

1:01:31

than you.

1:01:31

Yeah, so you might have just missed it. Do

1:01:34

you know the movie Home Alone?

1:01:37

I think my parents want fuck you?

1:01:39

Okay, anyway,

1:01:42

anyway, it's the thing that he uses

1:01:44

to record the voices and then you can distort

1:01:46

the voices. Blah blah blah. We used to think that we

1:01:48

could capture voices on that. Ghosts

1:01:51

on that a lot.

1:01:53

Yeah, okay,

1:01:56

I've got two of them for you. They were posted

1:01:58

on YouTube and it was

1:02:00

sort of like a compilation video

1:02:03

that was this group that has like

1:02:05

just a bunch of different ghosts, like, oh, here's

1:02:07

some of our best ones. And the group

1:02:09

is called Entity Encounters

1:02:12

and it's at various locations. What

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does this one say, Joe Cam booster.

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It one time? One more time? I

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hear I honestly,

1:02:30

I honestly hear like

1:02:32

a ghost that's singing along

1:02:34

to Charlie XCX ride you

1:02:39

hear it?

1:02:41

Yeah?

1:02:41

I do give that he's he's having

1:02:43

a brat summer.

1:02:48

That's very likely. That

1:02:50

is not what Entity Encounters believed.

1:02:52

Okay, what did they think.

1:02:54

I'm gonna give you, abc D. Did they think

1:02:56

it was a

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raw please? Maybe

1:03:01

they were what kind of sushi you want? I

1:03:03

don't want that tempora? Did

1:03:06

they think it was b robbery

1:03:09

okay, C probably

1:03:14

or D Paula Dean.

1:03:17

I think robbery.

1:03:18

Okay, let me play it again.

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You are correct.

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Okay, that is what Entity Encounters

1:03:26

heard. They heard robbery.

1:03:30

I feel very proud of myself.

1:03:31

It's very good. Well, you're experienced in this.

1:03:34

You've you've you've lived in with

1:03:36

a ghost that is now in your backyard.

1:03:40

Okay, what is this one saying?

1:03:42

Uh?

1:03:43

Same people posted it. I don't know where.

1:03:48

Mmm. Okay, one more time I

1:03:54

hear do you guys swear?

1:03:58

Do you guys swear? But

1:04:01

what do you think that means? Like do you say naughty

1:04:03

words?

1:04:03

Or do you no? Yeah, I

1:04:05

think it's I think it's a person begging

1:04:09

like their last I think

1:04:11

it's their last words, like this

1:04:13

isn't gonna hurt? Do you guys

1:04:15

swear?

1:04:17

And then that's what I died. That's

1:04:20

scary. Not

1:04:23

what they thought.

1:04:24

Oh fuck?

1:04:25

Did they think it was a it's

1:04:28

good to sweat?

1:04:30

Mm hmmm?

1:04:31

Did they think it was b I

1:04:33

gotta say, ce

1:04:37

go this way? Or

1:04:39

do baby? You were born this way?

1:04:42

Can I hear it one more time? Oh?

1:04:44

My god? Absolutely go

1:04:48

this way? Joe

1:04:50

Cambister two for two, Yes,

1:04:53

perfect record.

1:04:57

I've got a great ear for talent. You

1:05:00

after all in the in the lounge,

1:05:03

singing, singing on top of that piano,

1:05:05

and now look at you now, I will say.

1:05:08

You are one of the few that

1:05:11

has always been very kind

1:05:13

and encouraging to me.

1:05:15

Thank you, Rose. Well, it's you make it easy

1:05:17

because you're funny. So it's

1:05:19

like there

1:05:21

are plenty of people who make it difficult

1:05:23

to be supportive of.

1:05:25

Thank you.

1:05:26

There are many young queer comics

1:05:28

that I would love to be more supportive of.

1:05:32

You are so funny it

1:05:34

makes it very easy. Thank you.

1:05:38

Joe.

1:05:38

Tell us where people can find you and everything

1:05:41

you got going on.

1:05:42

So I should be already on tour by the

1:05:44

time you're hearing this. It's

1:05:47

a US Canada tour that goes all

1:05:49

the way through January. Go

1:05:51

to linktree dot com, slash Ihlkim

1:05:53

or you can just go to my Instagram at ihl

1:05:56

kim. All the info is there.

1:05:58

And then also just announced I'm doing a

1:06:00

European leg of the tour as well in

1:06:03

December. Those dates were just announced as well.

1:06:05

I'm doing Paris, London, Amsterdam,

1:06:08

Berlin, and I

1:06:11

think somewhere else. But

1:06:14

yeah, I'm really excited. I have never done

1:06:17

other than London. I've never done in Europe, so I'm

1:06:19

a little nervous and I'm really excited.

1:06:22

Oh my god, Please, if you're listening

1:06:24

from any of those places, tell your friends buy

1:06:26

tickets, uh, et cetera,

1:06:28

et cetera. And I'm trying

1:06:30

to think if there's anything else that needs to be plucked,

1:06:32

but I don't think so.

1:06:34

But this has been great, Jill, this has been so

1:06:36

lovely.

1:06:36

I know that we've had to move this around a million times

1:06:38

because of both of us, but I'm so glad

1:06:40

that. I'm so glad that we got to be tactile.

1:06:43

I'm so glad that you had a ghost in your house.

1:06:45

Me too, because I've

1:06:48

never seen someone light up more than when

1:06:50

I mentioned I had a ghost in my house.

1:06:51

Oh my god. You don't know the

1:06:54

emails I've sent six years,

1:06:56

the people do you have you ever? Do you

1:06:58

know someone that had a ghost in

1:07:00

the house. Anything? And

1:07:02

to have somebody that I would want

1:07:04

on regardless that

1:07:07

moved into it was the perfect time. I'm

1:07:09

so glad you didn't come on back when I originally

1:07:12

asked you.

1:07:12

Oh, same same, I would. I don't know what

1:07:14

I would have talked about.

1:07:16

This is the moment that we needed because

1:07:18

because here's anything beginning middle end dream

1:07:22

for me, beginning middle end

1:07:25

ghost story. And I'm going to put

1:07:27

this in one of the top ghost

1:07:30

Story Guests episodes.

1:07:32

Can you do me an honor? You can do me an

1:07:34

honor?

1:07:34

Rose, Thank

1:07:38

you so much to joke him Booster.

1:07:41

What a dream guest. Go

1:07:43

check out everything he does. He's everywhere.

1:07:45

It would be harder to not see

1:07:48

him doing what he does because

1:07:50

he does it so much, and he does it so

1:07:53

well, and he does it all over the place.

1:07:56

I love you and I'm so

1:07:58

happy you're listening. It's Halloween

1:08:00

week. Be safe out there,

1:08:03

kids, dress up, wear

1:08:05

a costume. I'm giving you

1:08:07

permission. Don't buy a store

1:08:09

bought costume. Do some arts

1:08:11

and crafts, do a quick little Joe

1:08:13

Anne visit, Go to Michael's. I

1:08:16

know the line's gonna be long, but wait

1:08:19

it out. You're gonna be so grateful you

1:08:21

did, cause the next next

1:08:23

October people are gonna be like, oh, what

1:08:26

have you dressed like for Halloween? And then you're gonna

1:08:28

be like, well, when I was a kid, No, you want

1:08:30

to go, oh my god, last year it

1:08:32

was iconic. I was the lady

1:08:34

from Chimp Crazy or whatever you decide.

1:08:37

Just I highly recommend

1:08:39

you dress up and treat yourself

1:08:42

to lots of candy and a horror

1:08:44

movie The Haunted Doll

1:08:47

on YouTube and this podcast.

1:08:50

I love you all, both living and

1:08:53

dead. But if I didn't ask you.

1:08:55

To haunt me, don't haunt me came

1:08:58

back.

1:09:05

This has been an exactly right production.

1:09:08

Want to share your paranormal experience

1:09:10

on the podcast. I read stories

1:09:12

out loud and sometimes I'll

1:09:14

even call you, so email me at

1:09:17

ghosted by Roz at gmail

1:09:19

dot com. You can send a DM or

1:09:21

voice message to the show's instagram

1:09:24

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1:09:26

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1:09:30

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1:09:33

and Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez.

1:09:36

My senior producer is the startling

1:09:39

Jiha Lee. Associate producer

1:09:41

is the alarming Christina

1:09:43

Chamberlain. This episode

1:09:45

was mixed and sound designed by the Eerie

1:09:49

Edson Choi. My guest booker

1:09:51

is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner.

1:09:54

Additional production support from the hair

1:09:57

raising Hannah Kyle Crichton.

1:10:00

The theme music is by the spine

1:10:02

chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon,

1:10:05

artwork by the Spooky Vanessa

1:10:08

Lilac, Photography by

1:10:10

the terrifying Elizabeth

1:10:12

Karen. Executive produced

1:10:15

by the Chilling Karen Kilgareth,

1:10:18

the Spooky Georgia

1:10:20

Hard Start, and the Frightening

1:10:23

Danielle Kramer.