12:00

Come on Wendy, you know,

12:02

it's just an exasperated thing But

12:05

me which was not really that maybe which was more that he

12:07

wanted He wanted to feel like real life

12:10

and he wanted it to feel natural and it was

12:12

he didn't want to see anybody acting And so a

12:14

lot of times, you know, he would meet with great

12:17

actors But they they obviously wanted to do

12:19

their thing and that wasn't really what he

12:21

was about and he had a word He

12:23

would throw at us a lot in in

12:25

in the rewriting of different drafts, which was

12:27

Discombobulate. Yes This

12:31

it's wonderful. Yes. It is the pages

12:33

are wonderful, but Perhaps

12:36

we should discombobulate it Meaning

12:39

that Larry and I had written a scene that the scene

12:41

starts at a and it's got to get to D So

12:44

we're gonna cover a then B then C then D and

12:46

Milos feels like well, what if you flip B and C?

12:50

What if you you grab the bottom of the page

12:52

you put at the top that makes the scene less

12:54

predictable and and and more? jagged like

12:56

real life and So

12:58

that that was sort of a that was a Milos

13:00

lesson interesting. Interesting. Yeah, I mean

13:02

there's comedy and all his work Oh,

13:05

yeah, yeah funny. Yeah, well, that's why we actually

13:07

he's not afraid of jokes Yeah, yeah, and a

13:09

lot of fancy directors are afraid of humor No,

13:11

that's why we're the ones who thought of him

13:13

for for Flint and it was because of cuckoo's

13:15

nest because cuckoo's nest is one of those movies

13:17

that's hysterically funny But

13:20

it's also really serious and it's heartbreaking and it's

13:22

real and it's just it has everything to it

13:24

And so me it was on me. Oh, she's

13:26

movies are really funny. You're like Amadeus, which is

13:28

you know, it's just another castle picture But

13:31

you watch it and it's funny. Absolutely. It's

13:33

it's throwing jokes at the at the rear

13:35

balcony Yeah, I think Beverly was saying that

13:37

though that that he would wait say, okay

13:39

I'm gonna let the kids stop acting

13:42

and actually wait for natural moments to

13:44

happen Jack Lemmon

13:46

said I think when he was

13:48

working with William Wilder Yeah,

13:52

Billy Wilder. Yeah, he said

13:54

that He kept

13:56

saying to Lemmon. Okay again

13:58

less less And

14:01

and he goes And

14:03

Jack Lemmon lost it and he said if

14:06

I do it any less I'm not acting

14:08

at all and he goes oh god. Yes

14:13

That's perfect it sounds like Wilder

14:15

now now this this we

14:18

found out in the last episode Problem

14:22

child could have been released with

14:24

a slogan based on a true

14:26

story Kind

14:29

of sort of yeah Inspired

14:31

inspired by inspired. Yes. No

14:33

we were we We

14:37

had seen them it was in the LA

14:39

Times I think there was an article about a couple

14:41

that were suing an adoption agency Because

14:43

the kid they got and the kid was terrible kid.

14:46

I mean kid was like he burned down the house

14:48

He wrote like he wrote like, you know devil stuff

14:50

in his own shit and the walls and things like

14:52

this I get word does You're

14:56

gonna play the kid now not the nothing and

14:59

so and what's the problem?

15:01

Exactly. And so I think a

15:03

bunch of people saw that story and they pitched it around

15:06

They had to go on the run Yeah, like

15:08

they had to change their names and say go

15:10

to witness protection Yeah from the kid the kid

15:12

who was like trying to find them and kill

15:14

them Yeah, and so they sued the Orange County

15:16

adoption agency. And so all the

15:18

a bunch of Producers and

15:21

writers around town saw this story in the times. It said

15:23

this is a horror film right the bad seed I went

15:25

and went to pitch it as Spooky

15:27

and we said this could be a riot,

15:29

right? See now

15:32

I can see this picture still

15:34

being made sure Well,

15:36

it's not PC. Yeah True

15:40

nobody's thought to remake problem show. Oh, they're interested.

15:42

They remade it as a they try to make

15:44

us a TV series It was a really it

15:46

was a crummy pilot weren't you weren't you in

15:49

the animated series? Yeah I was

15:51

in the animator one which it would always comes back

15:53

for problem shot. He's No,

15:59

that was funny I saw the pilot, I don't think

16:01

it was pretty bad. They didn't call him Junior. They

16:03

didn't call him Junior and they didn't, it felt more

16:05

like Ferris Bueller's Day Off. He

16:08

was more, less of the, less of Problem

16:10

Child and more like just a wise ass kid. Was he

16:12

talking to the camera? He was talking to the camera and

16:14

he was doing, you know, he was cool. And

16:16

the weird thing about Problem Child is

16:19

for all its faults, and there's lots of them. But

16:22

not Mr. Peabody. But not Mr. Peabody, solid. Rock

16:25

solid. It's off. Like

16:31

there's something really wrong with it.

16:35

And that's what makes it not home alone. Because

16:37

it's not just about a smart ass kid, it's about

16:39

like there's this thing that's fucked up. It's

16:42

a fucked up movie. And the Michael Richards

16:44

thing was torn from the headlines too? No,

16:46

that was Scott and Larry making up shit.

16:48

Okay. The kid's hero was

16:50

a serial killer. Okay. Yeah.

16:53

That was just, that was being creepy. Okay. That

16:55

was the one I'm going back. You know what's great about

16:57

Gilbert in those movies is if

16:59

you watch them very carefully, you realize that

17:01

he doesn't need to wear pants. You

17:05

never see Gilbert like from the third button down.

17:08

Right, part man, part desk. I used to

17:10

say about Larry Sanders. Never leave, no matter

17:12

what set he's on, he never leaves the desk.

17:15

I know. It's interesting. You know what? I don't

17:18

think you get up from behind the desk in

17:20

Beverly Hills Cop. No. No. I

17:23

think you're a desk, you're a desk factor. Or

17:25

a fair lane. I don't think you have pants either. Oh

17:27

yes. This is a

17:29

thing. Yeah, this is something. Well, it's

17:31

hard to imagine Gilbert in motion. Like

17:35

I'm friends with Gilbert. And I actually don't

17:37

think I actually ever seen him walk somewhere.

17:40

Move it all. No

17:43

action seems for Gilbert. All right, then tell

17:45

them the story where David Steinberg was directing

17:47

you because they probably don't know this. Yeah,

17:50

he was once directing me on some show

17:52

or I had to say something. What

17:54

was mad about you? What? What was mad

17:56

about you? Yeah. Yeah. And

17:58

I had to say something to the. Song

20:01

no, hello there. Yeah, we'll put it

20:03

in post. Yes. Yeah, but last of

20:05

the secret agents Which I just want

20:07

to bring up Directed by

20:09

butt Abbott's nephew of all people

20:11

and written by Mel token Mel token. Oh, yeah It's

20:16

not it's it's a not a very good bond knockoff,

20:18

but it's got a great theme song It's got a

20:20

great theme song, you know, I sort of

20:23

make fun of it I think on the on the trailer from

20:25

hell, I mean cuz I once when I say like, you know

20:28

It used to be trailers from hell meant that the

20:30

trailers from hell it's supposed to be like, you know

20:32

genre and movies that are that are that are sort

20:34

of crappy and And

20:37

we sort of go away from that now We'd try to do

20:39

classy films and so everyone's why I feel like we have to

20:41

go back and do some of that You mix it up on

20:43

your page But that being said that's actually it's actually a fairly

20:46

funny movie Like I watched it again to do that trailer

20:48

and and I felt kind of bad I was making fun of

20:50

it because it was really the guys are funny the guys are

20:52

funny And I'm a sucker for those

20:54

late 60s bond parodies is the but Abbott and

20:56

a few director who is it? Norman Abbott. Yeah.

20:58

Yeah, do anything else TV? I think that was

21:00

his only feature. Yeah. Yeah Oh,

21:02

yeah, I I remember and I

21:04

always always forget his name even

21:06

though he's been on the show

21:10

5000 times The

21:12

writer Bill Persky Bill Persky.

21:14

Yeah, Bill Persky He

21:18

hated them. He hated out Well,

21:21

he and he and Sam Dunne off his

21:23

partner were hired as young writers to work

21:25

for Alan Dunne off Who was Andy Kaufman's

21:27

uncle? There you go And very good and

21:29

then so Bill Persky said they brought him

21:31

in to a club to watch them

21:35

And then they said it was a bowling alley. Yeah

21:39

And they said to Bill after it.

21:41

So what'd you think and he said?

21:44

You know slaps his hands goes

21:46

that was 45 minutes Hahahaha

21:54

He did hate them Alright

21:57

this is because it is interesting because trailers from

21:59

hell has moved a little bit away from... Yeah.

22:03

I mean, I think it was like Joe Don... Well, it wasn't as

22:05

much tricky, but it was Joe Dante and John

22:07

Landis and guys like that talking about monster movies.

22:09

Right. You know, it was really monster

22:11

movies. Right. But you do a lot of classy

22:13

films on there, but you still have time to analyze what

22:15

you do in Myra Breckenridge. Exactly. But

22:17

Joey's gives me hell of a night. Oh, he's doing a subtitled movie. He's

22:20

doing, you know, Larry's talking about

22:22

a subtitled movie today. Wait, come on.

22:24

You're making Joe sound like

22:27

he doesn't get it. No, no, no. He

22:29

gets it. He says,

22:31

you're trying to class up the joint. We

22:33

had Joe here. Let's just talk quickly

22:35

about Skadoo. Skadoo? Yeah. What

22:38

you called a car crash. It is a car crash.

22:40

Yeah. And you said this, I

22:42

love this line. You said you could sell a movie

22:44

on Preminger's name and then after Skadoo, they took the

22:46

old man's keys. Yeah. We have

22:48

the phrase we use all the time is that at a certain point

22:50

you have to take away the old guy's keys. And

22:53

definitely Preminger, who's made some great movies,

22:55

that last bunch of movies are just...

22:58

They're on another level. Yeah, let me let me

23:00

Judy Moon and... Bunny Lake

23:02

is missing. Bunny Lake is probably the last one that's kind

23:04

of okay. Skadoo has such good friends,

23:06

is that of its mind? It's just like a

23:08

gun thriller. What is it? Oh,

23:10

there is like Human Factor or something. Yeah,

23:13

yeah. I've never seen it. I've never seen

23:15

that one. Two nights ago, speaking of horrible

23:17

movies, they

23:19

actually had on the story

23:21

of mankind. Oh, wow. Oh, my God.

23:24

Wow. Did you watch it?

23:26

Oh, yes. Groucho, Chico, and

23:29

Harpo played separately. Yep.

23:31

Yep. And Chico was

23:34

completely... I mean, he doesn't even

23:36

get a part. He's

23:38

a supporting monk. Yes. Right.

23:42

They don't even write in a slight joke for

23:44

him. Yeah. The

23:47

Marx Brothers Facebook page is obsessed with story

23:50

of mankind and what's Erwin Allen's fucking problem?

23:52

You're very active on that page, on that

23:54

Marx Brothers Society. I'm sorry. So

23:56

they give Erwin Allen a lot of grief. What

23:59

kind of a bonehead? make

26:00

the names more important. You know,

26:02

if you have Al Pacino in a movie,

26:05

you go Al Pacino. But

26:07

if you don't have that, you name

26:09

a bunch of them and you scream

26:11

each one. Like, see,

26:14

they're important. We have Fritz

26:16

Feld. Yes! Did

26:19

you see his documentary? Yes.

26:21

Yeah. Doesn't it end with a Fritz Feld

26:23

bit? Yes. Yeah. You

26:26

know, I feel sorry for the people who

26:28

make those all-star comedies. I mean, the Mad

26:31

Mad World knockoffs are the worst of the

26:33

movies with big casts. The Erwin Allen movies,

26:35

you know, you sort of accept that, that

26:37

you're going to have all of these, Fred Astaire

26:40

and Robert Wagner. We're both big

26:42

fans of Who's Minding the Mint, though. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

26:46

Yeah. That doesn't really have a star in it

26:48

either. See, it's a good movie. I think Who's

26:50

Minding the Mint is the good

26:52

version of Mad Mad World. That could be.

26:55

That's interesting. Mad Mad World is like,

26:58

I recommend everyone see it, but

27:01

it's not that good. I've grown

27:03

to love it. It

27:05

was like, initially, it was very, I thought

27:08

I was hipper that it's a Mad Mad Mad Mad World. And

27:11

then as I see it more

27:13

recently, with an audience, too. That's the thing.

27:15

I never saw it with an audience. It kills with

27:17

an audience. I mean, we've been spoiled in LA a couple

27:20

times a year, the Center of the Dome, which was

27:22

built to screen Mad Mad World

27:24

in Opening Day, runs it on that

27:26

big, stupidly giant screen

27:29

and it sells out every time. I

27:34

love the movie and

27:36

it's great to fight over that movie with Drew

27:38

because Drew just despises

27:40

it. He does. And

27:42

I'm the first to admit that it's got so

27:44

many scenes that just don't work. And

27:47

it's got whole characters. I don't think Sid

27:49

Caesar ever works in the movie. No. I

27:51

don't think he ever works in the movie. But

27:54

Johnny Winters kills every time he's

27:56

on frame. Buddy Hackett kills every

27:58

time. Phil Silver's killing. So for

28:00

me, the highs outweigh the lows.

28:04

Yeah, Ethel Merman's funny. She's an

28:06

acquired taste. Yeah. I kind

28:08

of like her and Dick Sean. Well, when

28:10

Dick Sean's amazing at it. When you were talking

28:12

about the crappy all-star comedies, what was your mind?

28:15

It's still like the big boss. The big boss.

28:17

Oh, welcome to the scavenger hunt. Yeah,

28:20

yeah. And the one in history, the hefty

28:22

bag one. The $20 million mystery. Oh,

28:25

that's the greatest. You've done that on the show, right? We

28:27

talked about that. We gave away garbage, yes. What

28:30

I remember about... I mean, has anyone seen the big

28:32

boss in a long time? I mean, is there any

28:34

chance? It's... It has to be

28:36

awful. Ever hit TV. There's also Juan Tonton. Juan

28:39

Tonton? I can say that. That's awful.

28:42

I was a member of a gym, which I'm

28:44

not anymore. Don't worry. Thank God.

28:46

And I met an old-time

28:48

guy who was just very friendly to me. And he's sort

28:50

of like, what do you do? A screenwriter. He says, oh,

28:52

I used to be a screenwriter. He says, I go, what

28:54

do you do? He says, you wouldn't have heard of me.

28:56

You wouldn't have heard of my work. I go, try me.

28:58

He says, the big boss. And

29:01

I just lit up. I said, you're Fred Friedman.

29:04

Wow. Wow. And he

29:06

was... How about that? Happy as day

29:08

of his life. Not James Frawley. He

29:11

directed it. Yeah, he just passed away. We're trying to

29:13

get him here. There's a joke from a big boss.

29:15

I've only saw the movie once when it came out.

29:17

But there's a joke I always remember, which is

29:20

he's got a broken milk carton. Because...

29:23

What a stupid joke. They sit there in a fight,

29:25

and he picks up a milk carton, and he hits

29:27

it on the table. He's using it as a weapon.

29:32

I remember in Mad Med world, the

29:34

one part made me laugh is, they're

29:37

all arguing in one of those million

29:39

arguments they have. And Ethel

29:42

Merman says something to Buddy Hackett.

29:44

Buddy Hackett's going, okay, you do

29:46

this, and you'll take this, and

29:48

you'll book. And then he goes,

29:51

and you, lady, you can

29:53

drop that. Yes. I

29:57

sent you guys the trailer. I don't think you had seen it.

30:00

I sent it to Larry with

30:03

them just cutting up. It's the name of

30:05

the Stan Freeberg director. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes.

30:08

Yeah, that's cool. That's really cool. I never

30:10

saw Myra Breckenridge, which is amazing. I thought

30:12

it would have popped up on TV. Yeah,

30:14

well, it's a weird one. Look at Larry's

30:16

breakdown on trailers. It's just not,

30:19

it doesn't really work, which is a shame,

30:21

because it's like everything about it. Like

30:23

if you look at the trailer, it's like I want to see that

30:25

movie. I want to see that movie where Racquel Welch, Sodomized

30:28

is a guy who's tied up, and

30:30

that's out of its mind. It's your kind of thing.

30:32

It's my kind of thing. Yeah. But

30:35

John Huston and Mae West, and it's just,

30:37

but it doesn't work. Rex Reed. Rex Reed.

30:40

Yeah. So it's not an enjoyably

30:42

awful movie. Not really. Have

30:45

you sat through Sextet? Of

30:47

course. Yes. Sextet

30:49

is the end of the world, officially. She's

30:52

so old, and I

30:55

mean, the stories were that they

30:58

built a whole electronic

31:01

earwig thing into her wig. It

31:03

was like early ear technology.

31:06

So she's got this giant beehive wig, and then

31:08

they're feeding her the lines, because she can't remember

31:10

anything, and she doesn't know what scene she's in.

31:13

And so all these young men, it's Timothy Dalton trying to

31:15

make a love to Mae, because she's the most beautiful woman

31:17

in the world, but she's 800 years old, and

31:20

she doesn't even know they're in the room. Right. I

31:23

mean, just call you YouTube. She's Marty Allen.

31:27

Just watch the Love Will Keep Us Together

31:30

with Timothy Dalton and Mae West, which is

31:33

stunning. There's a Mae West auction going on

31:35

right now. Like actually someone sent it to

31:37

me, because they were selling Mae West, Myra

31:40

Breckenridge scripts. Yeah. The

31:43

three things they're up for auction is

31:45

Mae West scripts for Myra Breckenridge. Marilyn

31:48

Monroe's prescriptions. Oh, you

31:50

just sent that email. And there's like, I just caught it. I

31:53

saw the couch. I saw the drink. And

31:56

Whelan Flowers' Madam puppet. Go

31:59

for it, get in on it. Which is technically

32:01

priceless. Yeah, it is technically priceless. And

32:03

was Tom Selleck in Six

32:05

Dead also? Ooh. Wow.

32:08

That sounds right. I think he was. Yeah,

32:11

it sounds right. Someone with a mustache. I think he was.

32:14

Why do I think Alice Cooper was in it or

32:17

Ringo? Ringo

32:19

sounds right. Ringo's in it. Ringo's in it. Yeah,

32:21

I think so. Yeah. Wow. Why would

32:23

you sit and watch this stuff? I mean, I know

32:25

you guys see everything. I saw it when it came

32:27

out. Yeah. OK. Old

32:30

gossip columnist James Bacon. The

32:33

guy that used to drink with Gleason. Yeah, and he

32:35

had to call him in the Herald Examiner. And

32:37

he would whatever. He would

32:39

plug his friends. And

32:42

so him and May went way back. And so he

32:44

did a calm every day during the shooting of Sex

32:46

Dead. So I was just like salivating for like opening

32:48

days. So I could be the first one there. I

32:51

mean, I'm not proud. Oh, I know.

32:53

It happened. The story

32:55

you just told where she had the

32:58

earphones in, at

33:00

times, because it was a primitive structure

33:03

they built there, that

33:05

in the middle of the

33:07

dialogue, she'd say, well,

33:10

we're at our cruising

33:12

altitude. Yes. Our

33:17

seat belt sign is still on. How

33:20

about Mame, speaking of somebody who shouldn't be

33:23

making movies anymore? Oh, wow. Yeah, that's unlatchable.

33:25

Let's talk Dolomite. Sure. How

33:27

did you guys segue from Mame to Dolomite? We

33:30

don't do smooth segues here. I'll plug one

33:32

other thing, though. That's really bizarre. That's Mae

33:34

West related. There's probably the most obscure weird

33:36

movies of all time that no one's ever

33:39

heard of. There's a movie called Dinah East.

33:41

It's not Mae West. It's Dinah East. And

33:44

it's about a,

33:46

it's basically runs with the rumor that

33:48

Mae West was a man. And

33:51

it's basically a narrative feature from

33:54

1970 or something. That's

33:56

crazy. You guys see everything. I don't

33:58

know what he's talking about. It

34:00

stars one of the one of the Warhol super star

34:02

people like ultraviolet or someone of those people of Eva

34:05

or somebody Yeah, how did you guys

34:07

become aware of? Rudy Ray

34:09

Moore because this is interesting on that the the

34:11

sex and violence. Yeah It

34:13

was after college six guys living

34:15

in a house in Silver Lake and

34:17

our buddy Dan waters who wrote Ford

34:19

Fairlane who wrote Ford Fairlane for Mr.

34:21

Gotts on Facebook Dan waters. Yeah, Dan

34:23

was managing video house a Video

34:27

house was owned by two Chinese brothers who

34:29

didn't understand anything about America And

34:32

so Dan just had free reign to order

34:34

any tapes he wanted Because

34:36

he didn't know English And

34:39

so it was basically it was an entire

34:41

store of movies that Dan wanted to see

34:43

and so he ordered the best of sex

34:45

And violence which was two hours of trailers

34:47

of exploitation films right and hosted by John

34:50

Carradine great. Yes, Charles band Joy, yeah What's

34:55

not what was his company called Empire

34:57

Empire Empire picture? Yeah, but there was

34:59

something else there was another Full

35:01

moon band of the hand Yeah,

35:06

yeah different guy But he was

35:08

the guy behind this and you

35:10

saw the human tornado trailer had

35:24

dolomite human tornado and disco godfather

35:27

back-to-back and for all you all

35:29

you crazy listeners You can

35:31

just it's on YouTube the human tornado

35:33

trailer is out of its fucking wonderful

35:36

three minutes of complete insanity and

35:38

naked people and screaming and gunshots

35:41

and We would just watch

35:43

that trailer over and over and over and because Dan

35:45

managed the store. We never returned the tape. Yeah Back

35:48

in the rental days. So you guys were well

35:50

aware of him when you got the initial call

35:53

to go meet Eddie And

35:56

after that tape Scott for my birthday,

35:59

you know And

40:00

so we put the Interstate Cultural Center

40:02

into our movie too, because we really wanted to hit

40:04

this idea of

40:07

these black artists having to do it

40:10

themselves, because no one was going to do it for

40:12

them. Well, they're an odd couple too, Rudy and Jerry.

40:14

Yeah, Rudy is an artiste. Well,

40:17

Jerry took himself very seriously and

40:19

wrote the- Jerry Jones. Jerry Jones, the character

40:21

that Keegan Michael Key plays. And

40:23

his plays were very culturally

40:26

significant. And so he's

40:28

a completely odd person to be

40:30

mixed up with Rudy Ray Moore,

40:32

because Rudy just wants to joke.

40:35

Someone made a joke that said that Rudy's like, he's

40:38

the worst studio executive of all time. He just

40:41

wants more titties, more explosions, more kung fu. It's

40:43

like, no matter what the scene is, that's a solution

40:45

to fix it. I mean,

40:48

after Rudy died, Larry

40:50

did a night at the cinema check and then Jerry

40:52

came down. And even as late as whatever year that

40:54

was, 2008, 2009. I

40:57

think he passed into 2008, right? Yeah, Jerry still

40:59

didn't get the joke. We

41:02

were still just talking about the films and

41:05

their social value. And

41:07

we're telling it like it is in the streets. And

41:10

it's just like, pal, have you seen the films? And

41:13

Jerry's gone now, I assume. So he can't

41:15

see this. But you know,

41:17

Jerry actually had a little bit of a career. I mean,

41:19

Jerry's in two Robert Alton movies. He's

41:21

in MASH and he's in The Long Goodbye. The one

41:24

I recognized him. I

41:26

mean, he's got a real part in Long Goodbye.

41:28

But in MASH, if you remember the

41:30

movie MASH, the opening scene is

41:33

a soldier gets his Jeep stolen. And

41:36

it's in the opening scene and the closing scene. And he's

41:38

a soldier who gets the Jeep stolen. So he had some

41:40

work in legit Hollywood. The Durbel

41:42

Martin too. I think it was when Ron

41:44

Delsner was on the show. He was talking

41:47

about, well, they'd

41:49

have black groups perform for

41:51

free because they were

41:53

told that this is the way you

41:55

promote it, even though they were

41:57

making that. We had Willie Tyler here too. Wow. stories

42:00

about the Chitlin circuit. And they said

42:02

like a lot of times with the

42:04

Chitlin circle is they would have a

42:06

performer and if they didn't feel like

42:08

paying them, they wouldn't pay them. It's

42:11

like the internet. Yeah. A little

42:13

bit. Like podcasting kind of. Yes. And

42:16

to give process to Red Fox, you

42:18

know, when he hit the big money

42:20

with Sanford and Son, LaWanda

42:22

Page and Whitman Mayo, they were Chitlin

42:25

pals. Yeah, a bunch of guys. Oh

42:27

yeah, she's in the documentary about Rudy.

42:29

She's all over that thing. She loved

42:31

Rudy. Her, Rudy and Wildman

42:34

Steve would occasionally do a tour together. And

42:36

blow fly. Blow fly. Right, right, right. What

42:38

a great fucking show that would be. Absolutely.

42:40

Come on. I can see Gilbert's

42:42

point about the similarities though because both films

42:45

were made with affection. Yes. Great

42:47

affection for these two guys who were, who were, you know. Who

42:50

assemble a team. They put a family together.

42:53

yeah, they're a bunch of misfits who kind

42:55

of believe in themselves and, and,

42:57

and, you know, try to, try to, try

42:59

to make art. They're lovable losers who strive to

43:01

be, who strive to be so much more. Well,

43:03

it's a great thing Eddie's always says about Rudy

43:05

is like, he was a loser who refused to

43:07

lose. That's great. You know. Yeah.

43:10

I mean, I think it's, it's funny because

43:12

Eddie's original, what brought you guys to him

43:14

was Edward. Yeah. And I think

43:16

this, this also captures what's one of the things that's

43:19

special about Edward is that, that sense of a family.

43:21

Yes. That comes together. And I think

43:23

one of you, I forget which one of you said that

43:26

without Rudy Raymore, there couldn't be an

43:28

Eddie Murphy. I think Eddie's kind of

43:31

said those kinds of things. I didn't say it. Yeah.

43:33

Did you say that? I didn't say it. Well

43:35

take credit Frank. Did you say it? Not me.

43:37

Yes. I said it. You just heard. But

43:40

all those guys were influenced. Like they were totally influenced, but

43:42

they were also, it was more like, like guys like Snoop

43:44

says that. Snoop, Snoop, Snoop said

43:46

that more. Yeah. Because Eddie

43:48

always talks about how he's, he's fascinated by

43:50

Rudy because Eddie's life and Rudy's

43:52

life were, they were totally different

43:55

from where Eddie had instant success. Eddie

43:57

never failed. Eddie never failed. Yeah. at

44:00

17, you know, Eddie literally has auditioned once in

44:02

his entire life and it was a good on

44:04

the SNL. And everything, you know, like

44:07

there was some SAGs Q&A

44:09

the other night and everyone on

44:11

the stage was like, how did you get your SAG card?

44:13

Because you're in SAG and everyone's, you know, Keegan and people

44:15

are like, oh, I was in this commercial, I did this

44:18

thing, I did a walk on it. And sure, it got

44:20

to Eddie, he's like, I think

44:22

it was 48 hours. But

44:25

all those guys, Paul Mooney

44:27

and Pryor and Chris Rock

44:31

and Orsineo, I mean, they all give Moody Ray Moore his

44:34

props. You know that Eddie has a

44:36

Paul Mooney ventriloquist doll? That's

44:38

scary. Now that's your next movie.

44:42

I know that Craig Bierko has

44:45

a Richard Kine doll. Oh, wow. Wait,

44:47

is that a movie? I

44:49

don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I

44:51

don't know. Oh, wow. Wait,

44:54

is that true? Yes. Yes,

44:56

I'll send you a picture. I'm assuming it was custom.

44:58

It was custom. That's not off the shelf. No. I'll

45:03

send you a picture. We

45:08

will return to Gilbert Gottfried's

45:10

Amazing Colossal Podcast right

45:13

after this. That's what you say.

45:15

Bye.