The Happy Pod: Creating 'Christina's Corner'

The Happy Pod: Creating 'Christina's Corner'

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This is the Happy Pod

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from the BBC World Service. Hello,

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it's Alan Smith here and welcome to half

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an hour or so of uplifting stories

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from around the world. In this

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edition, we hear about Christina's

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Corner. When they treat

1:00

people like my daughter, I

1:02

mean they see them as a human. Now

1:06

there's a special place for them in

1:08

heaven, you know. A special

1:10

place in a convenience store in a small

1:12

town in Idaho. There's the

1:14

millions of people tuning in to

1:16

watch the moose migration in northern Sweden.

1:18

I like everything about it. The

1:21

sounds, the pictures,

1:24

the tranquility. You

1:27

just be

1:29

there. Plus... I just

1:31

thought, what a wonderful little snapshot.

1:33

Of course, we've got recordings of

1:35

famous people, world -tier politicians from the

1:38

era, but very rarely people who are

1:40

just on their holiday. A 70 -year

1:42

-old voicemail which has been reunited with

1:44

the woman who recorded it. And...

1:46

When we are starting the

1:48

program, the first sessions, they don't

1:50

know each other. They

1:52

are not confident with the

1:55

group and also they are not

1:57

really sure they are going

1:59

to feel comfortable. How rowing

2:01

is helping refugees feel part

2:03

of their new community. We're

2:09

going to start in the small

2:11

US town of Pocatello in Idaho

2:13

with a story about kindness. Dave

2:16

Craning ran the last video rental

2:18

store in town until he just couldn't

2:20

carry on due to falling profits. But

2:23

for almost every day for decades

2:25

he was visited by his most

2:27

loyal customer, Christina. For

2:29

Christina, picking out a film was an

2:31

integral part of her day and Dave

2:33

was determined for her to carry this

2:35

on despite his store closing. The

2:37

Happy Pod's Harry Bly has been

2:39

speaking to Dave and Christina's mother Tony. My

2:42

name is Tony Kavanaugh and

2:44

my daughter is Christina. She

2:47

is almost 36. For more

2:49

than 20 years, Tony and her

2:51

daughter, Christina, have visited their

2:53

local video rental store almost every

2:55

day at 3 .30 in the

2:57

afternoon to pick up two

2:59

of Christina's favorite movies. It's part

3:01

of just, you know,

3:03

the fabric of her life. It's

3:05

woven in. Christina has Down syndrome

3:08

and is mostly nonverbal. Tony

3:10

says going to the video store

3:12

is an important part of her

3:14

daily routine. I mean, I have

3:16

a cabinet full of videos, and

3:19

they are those videos, the

3:21

same movies that she goes

3:23

and rents. So it's going

3:25

to rent the movies that

3:28

she loves. Nowadays, for many,

3:30

video rental stores are a

3:32

distant but fond memory. Since

3:34

the mid -2000s, as streaming

3:36

services became mainstream, Most stores

3:38

have closed. And last

3:41

year, Christina's favorite video store began

3:43

to struggle. Dave Craning is

3:45

the store owner. The costs were

3:47

going up, but the revenue was going

3:49

down. And it just

3:51

kind of got to the point

3:53

where I just felt that

3:55

just maintaining the video store wasn't

3:57

feasible. The people that worked

3:59

there were warning me that eventually,

4:02

you know, they didn't know when, but

4:04

things were just not looking good. because

4:07

I can't explain it to her

4:09

and Dave knew that too. And

4:12

that was his concern. Dave

4:14

kept the store going as

4:16

long as he could. Well,

4:19

he let it go on,

4:21

you know, the loss of

4:23

revenue because of her. So

4:25

then, you know, it happened.

4:27

The hammer came down and

4:29

it was like, oh no.

4:32

But when it came time to

4:34

close the video store, Dave

4:36

came up with a solution to

4:39

create Christina's Corner in the

4:41

neighboring convenience store, which he also

4:43

owns. So I thought, well,

4:45

I could build just this version

4:47

of this corner of the

4:49

store that looks like the video

4:51

store, let her favorite

4:53

movies in there, and then just

4:56

kind of create a snapshot,

4:58

I guess, of what what

5:00

our video store was at

5:02

the time we locked her up.

5:04

I explained it at one

5:06

point. It was like having a

5:08

prison sentence lifted. And

5:10

the way he's got it set up now, I

5:13

think she'll be able to do

5:15

it as long as he's the owner.

5:19

Truthfully, when I did this,

5:22

you know, I was just doing something nice

5:24

for just a customer that's been will

5:27

just for decades, you

5:29

know, I was just doing it

5:31

to help a mother out and her

5:33

daughter that was, you know, wasn't

5:35

born, you know, with the same faculties

5:37

as you and me. And, you

5:39

know, I thought, you know, what if

5:41

the shoes were on the other

5:43

foot? And I thought, you know, I

5:45

can help this one person out

5:47

and make their life a little bit

5:50

easier. I went to

5:52

thank him. And the words

5:54

came, I just burst into tears.

5:56

So about a week or

5:58

two later, I saw him and

6:00

I said, promise not to

6:02

cry. And I

6:04

thanked him, man, with words.

6:07

You know, it just, when

6:10

they treat people like my

6:12

daughter, I

6:14

mean, they see them

6:17

as a human

6:19

and they're willing to

6:21

go the extra.

6:23

mile, you know, so

6:25

many times. Yeah,

6:28

there are a lot of

6:31

good people and kind people, but

6:33

they don't understand

6:36

disabilities. They're afraid when

6:38

they see people with

6:40

disabilities. So when

6:42

somebody steps out

6:44

like that, it's,

6:48

yeah, there's a special place for them in

6:50

heaven, you know. You know,

6:52

people are always saying, it's

6:54

everything to me. So

6:56

I didn't want to use that

6:58

phrase, but really, it is, it's everything.

7:01

After Tony and I spoke, it

7:03

approached 330 and was time for them

7:05

to head over to Dave's store. Tony

7:08

says she hopes their story

7:10

will promote more love and

7:12

kindness across the world. Tony

7:15

Kavanaugh and Dave Craney were speaking

7:17

to Harry Bly. And this story

7:19

got us thinking, Has somebody you

7:21

know gone out of their way

7:23

to change someone's life for the

7:25

better? If so, we'd love to

7:27

hear about it. The address is

7:29

GlobalPodcast at bbc .co .uk. Now

7:31

on the happy pod, let's slow

7:34

down. These

7:40

sounds affirm last year's moose migration

7:42

in northern Sweden. It was broadcast

7:44

by a team who've set up 30

7:46

cameras around the woods to capture

7:48

the natural phenomenon of the animal,

7:50

also known as the elk, moving

7:52

across rivers and lakes to find

7:54

greener pastures ready for summer. Well

7:56

now the team's rolling the cameras for

7:59

another year. They'll stream live for 24

8:01

hours a day for about three weeks.

8:03

Nine million people tuned in last year

8:05

and judging by the global reaction after

8:07

its first day, many millions more will

8:09

be tuning in this year too. Ulla

8:12

Malmgren is a fan of the show

8:14

and one of its most avid watchers. I

8:17

like everything about it. The

8:19

sounds, the pictures,

8:23

the tranquility. You

8:26

just be

8:28

there. I

8:30

don't have to go out. I

8:32

can't go out. So

8:34

this is my connection

8:36

with nature. I have

8:38

been watching this for

8:40

six years now. I

8:43

am sick and

8:45

homebound, so this is

8:47

my lifeline. Johann

8:49

Erlag is the project manager and

8:52

executive producer of the show. He

8:54

spoke to the BBC's Luke Jones.

8:56

I hope that the Swedish people would

8:58

love it, but I couldn't imagine

9:00

that the whole world would be interested

9:03

in this as well, so it's

9:05

fantastic. Just explain what the programme

9:07

is. It's just a load of cameras,

9:09

what, over the Swedish countryside, picking up moose

9:11

as and when they wander past. Yeah,

9:14

exactly. The moose

9:16

migrate from their winter places

9:18

to their summer pastures, and

9:20

we are actually having

9:22

30 cameras in a small

9:24

area where they are actually

9:27

going to cross and swim

9:29

over a river. So

9:31

it's a very unique and

9:33

beautiful thing when you actually see

9:35

these big animals walking down

9:37

in the river and then suddenly

9:39

the head appears with flapping

9:41

ears and it's amazing. And is

9:43

it constant moose or is

9:45

it occasionally? you know a view

9:47

of a bit of stream

9:49

or a bit of field where

9:51

a moose has yet to

9:53

arrive but we're keeping our eyes

9:55

peeled just in case. I

9:57

mean the the moose is

10:00

migrating obviously this time of year

10:02

every year it's about the

10:04

same dates every year but the

10:06

spring is a bit earlier

10:08

this year so we had to

10:10

start a week earlier but

10:12

this is the very Very

10:15

few weeks of the

10:17

year where they migrate in

10:19

big, big queues actually.

10:21

Queues? a 2030 year traffic jam

10:23

in the woods. And

10:26

you must be very good at it now because you've

10:28

done it a few years, is that right? Yeah,

10:31

this is our seventh season

10:33

actually. And do you

10:35

recognise the same moose coming back

10:37

again? Are there recurring characters and

10:39

stars? Actually, we

10:41

tried to see if we

10:43

can recognise the stars, but

10:45

we can't actually. They

10:47

do look quite similar. Yeah, they

10:50

look quite similar. The

10:52

scientists are helping us, and

10:54

there are obviously mooses living

10:56

in the area, but they

10:58

also migrate for a few

11:00

kilometres. Yo, how are

11:02

you? Now, here's a question for

11:04

you. Have you ever been reunited with

11:06

something that you thought you might

11:08

have lost forever? Well, that's what

11:11

happened to a British woman called

11:13

Valerie Stanard. You see, 70 years ago,

11:15

she recorded something called a voiceograph whilst

11:17

she was travelling in New York. Decades

11:19

later, she's been reunited with the

11:21

disc that it was held on.

11:24

Justin Deely has been talking to

11:26

Valerie to find out more. In

11:28

1955, Valerie from Wellingarden City was

11:30

in New York and decided to

11:32

send a message home using a

11:34

voiceograph machine. Now, these recording

11:36

booths were popular in the 40s

11:38

and 50s, especially in America. Valerie

11:40

went into a small booth, had only

11:42

one minute to speak, and the recording

11:45

of her voice was pressed onto a

11:47

vinyl disc. She then posted the voiceogram

11:49

back to her family in Hertfordshire. And

11:51

70 years later... dealer Joel Diath was

11:53

going through some records and made an

11:55

intriguing discovery. I was in a dusty

11:57

old warehouse and I was going through

11:59

some records and I saw this voiceogram

12:01

and I just find them absolutely fascinating

12:03

because as much as I'm a fan

12:05

of rare records this is a complete

12:07

one -off. So among it was not

12:09

just the voiceogram but the envelope it

12:11

came in and I thought oh I

12:13

have to. I have to not just

12:15

listen to this I have to do

12:17

a bit of digging. I heard a

12:19

very well -spoken young lady who was telling

12:21

her parents about her trip to New

12:23

York and check the day and it

12:25

was 1955 so 70 years ago and

12:27

I just thought what a wonderful little

12:29

snapshot of course we've got recordings of

12:31

famous people royalty or politicians from the

12:33

era but very rarely people who are

12:35

just on their holiday. I just went

12:37

on to Facebook and I found a

12:39

well and garden city Facebook group as

12:41

there's many and I just shared some

12:43

details shared some photos and said can

12:46

anyone help I know the street name

12:48

I know the surname and how fortunate

12:50

for me some people got in touch.

12:52

A neighbour of Valerie's family was able

12:54

to tell Joel that Valerie had moved

12:56

to Vancouver. In Canada, she also had

12:58

a daughter, and finding out she was

13:00

called Zoe, Joel was able to message

13:02

her on social media. I thought it

13:04

was going to be something spammy, but

13:06

I read it anyway. And

13:08

I thought it was having rather

13:11

a challenging day, and it was just

13:13

such a little ray of sunshine

13:15

in the middle of a bit of

13:17

awfulness. and so I reached out

13:19

and it was really quite something. By

13:21

this time Joel had managed to

13:23

get the recording digitized. It's 70 years

13:25

old and not the clearest but

13:27

Valerie can be heard wishing her mum

13:29

a happy birthday and that America

13:31

is a wonderful place. Valerie

13:35

was 20 years old when

13:37

she made that recording. Now

13:39

age 90 she was able

13:41

to listen again to her

13:43

younger self. It was a

13:45

little bit frightening. Do you

13:47

actually remember going in to

13:49

record that message at 20

13:51

years old or not? Well,

13:54

I remember the couple of

13:56

days I was in New

13:58

York very, very clearly because

14:00

such outstanding things happened to

14:02

me. And Joel, you're the

14:04

man who's worked very hard

14:06

to make all of this

14:08

happen. It was certainly worth

14:10

it, wasn't it? I was just sort

14:12

of sitting here sitting quite moved by

14:14

the whole thing because When Valerie recorded

14:16

that 70 years ago, could Valerie have

14:18

imagined that 70 years later would be

14:20

sitting here talking, meeting new people? And

14:22

because of some sort of voice postcard,

14:24

I'm so glad that I reached out.

14:26

And Zoe, as we've got Joel here,

14:29

is there anything you'd like to say

14:31

to Joel as well? Oh,

14:33

thank you so much. This has just been

14:35

a lovely thing. My husband and I are

14:37

with a pipe band. And in

14:39

2026, we are going to be traveling

14:41

to Glasgow to see the world. and

14:44

we're planning to pop down to London and

14:46

meet Joel in person. Well, I thoroughly look

14:48

forward to it. I don't think I've ever

14:50

been to a pipe bag gig before, but

14:52

I think we're better first ones to go

14:54

to. That

14:56

report was from Justin Dealey. Coming

15:03

up in this podcast... I was

15:05

home during the day and I was

15:07

out every night. And my

15:09

man worked during the day and he

15:11

was home every night. That was the

15:13

secret. We'll

15:15

find out the recipe to 70

15:17

years of happy marriage. To

15:26

southern Spain now and a project

15:28

in the city of Seville which is

15:30

using rowing to help refugees feel part

15:32

of their new community. Spain

15:34

has seen an increase in people

15:36

seeking asylum over the past few years

15:39

due to conflicts and natural disasters.

15:41

And one group, the Seville Sports Marina,

15:43

is inviting children and adults who have arrived in

15:46

Spain to join in and be part of

15:48

the boat crew. Craig Langren went

15:50

to find out more. I

15:54

arrived to a flurry of activity

15:56

down by the riverside. A

15:58

group of adults and children

16:00

are dragging a large white

16:03

rowing boat. into the water.

16:05

I'm here to meet Jose

16:07

Villes, founder of a non

16:09

-profit organization called Ducena Deportiva

16:11

Sevilla, which runs programs to

16:13

get people involved in sports. Jose

16:16

tells me the project's called

16:18

Crew Together and offers a six

16:20

-week rowing course to refugees and

16:22

asylum seekers. Love that

16:24

people will have to move to our

16:26

city from different countries like Venezuela and

16:29

Morocco and we want them to feel

16:31

part of our society. I

16:37

quickly settle in and become part

16:40

of the crew. We

16:50

each grabbed one of the metal oars

16:52

with a bright orange blade at the

16:54

end. It was so tightly packed

16:56

in that my knees knocked against the person

16:58

sitting next to me. just

17:02

in the boat. I'm not sure

17:04

how helpful I'm being really. I'm

17:07

seeking solace in the fact that

17:10

I'm balancing out the boat at the

17:12

back. We

17:15

head further out into the middle

17:17

of the Guadalquivir River. Whilst

17:19

it's wide there isn't a strong current

17:21

and the calm blue water shimmers

17:23

in the early evening sun as we

17:25

make our way down the river. passing

17:28

parks, office buildings and

17:30

cyclists on the footpath. After

17:40

about an hour or so of rowing up

17:42

and down the river singing, the

17:44

sun begins to set and we make our

17:46

way back to shore. Everyone

17:48

gets out and helps to pull the

17:50

boat up the slipway and back into

17:52

the nearby boat house. a

17:58

big 200 kilos 200 kilos

18:00

wow a big it's a

18:02

big it's a big old

18:04

thing this boat Jose

18:07

tells me they put on a

18:09

weekly session for 50 people. That's

18:11

10 each every day from Monday to Friday.

18:14

He says that they have a sports

18:16

coach to teach the students how to

18:18

row. And there's also someone called a

18:20

social educator. Now their role

18:22

is to create games and activities to encourage

18:24

the groups to talk. An important

18:26

part of all of this as Jose explains.

18:29

Many refugees don't have friends

18:31

or family here. So this

18:34

project helped them feel part

18:36

of the community. When we

18:38

are starting the program, the first

18:40

sessions, they don't know each other.

18:43

They are not confident with the

18:45

group and also they are

18:47

not really sure they are going

18:50

to feel comfortable growing on

18:52

the river. But it's

18:54

great to see them

18:56

after two, three sessions. When

18:59

they know each other better

19:01

and they connect and they join

19:03

the games and the play

19:05

that we are proposing and they

19:07

are laughing and they are

19:09

getting better. Some stay in touch

19:11

after the calls and also

19:13

we try to connect them with

19:15

employers. Now

19:28

with a story about a

19:30

public artwork featuring life -sized puppet

19:32

animals travelling across Africa from Kinshasa

19:34

in the Democratic Republic of

19:36

Congo. The group, including the

19:38

puppeteers, will follow a 20 ,000

19:40

kilometre route from the Congo

19:42

Basin, travelling through Lagos and Dakar

19:44

later this month, before moving

19:46

through Morocco and then into Europe

19:48

through Spain, France, Italy, the

19:50

UK, Denmark and Sweden, all the way

19:52

up to the Arctic Circle. This

20:01

is their promotional video. It's

20:03

about raising awareness of what they

20:06

describe as their flight from

20:08

climate disaster. The artistic

20:10

director, Amir Nizar Zouabi, has

20:12

been speaking to Julian Warwicka.

20:14

Yeah, it is an ambitious

20:17

project but we're facing a

20:19

massive problem and maybe by

20:21

doing massive feats we can

20:23

try and address this problem

20:25

that is on everybody's doorstep.

20:27

It's everywhere, all at once. It's

20:30

been, you know, climate

20:32

crisis is a new, of course, right

20:34

now with world politics. Being

20:37

what they are, it's being

20:39

pushed aside. So our project has

20:41

become more acute. And

20:44

we want to raise the conversation.

20:46

We want to raise a different

20:48

way of talking about climate. We

20:50

want to bring it to where

20:52

we feel safe, to the doorsteps

20:54

of our cities so people can

20:56

can get inspired again by nature,

20:58

by the beauty of nature. Well,

21:00

the artwork is called The Herds.

21:02

They're a group of life -size

21:04

puppet animals, which will first

21:07

emerge onto the banks of

21:09

the Congo River. And then you've

21:11

got this enormous journey to

21:13

undertake. How practically do you do

21:15

that? With a lot of

21:17

patience, with flexibility, and with knowing

21:19

that a lot of things will go

21:21

wrong. But basically, we're working with

21:23

a lot of local artists and local...

21:25

groups along the route. So this

21:28

is in many ways a global project

21:30

that is rooted in local collaborations

21:32

in all of the cities that we

21:34

walk through. It's not

21:36

a touring production. It's a

21:38

production that is recreated

21:40

in every city, organically co

21:43

-created with artists in the

21:45

city, and is reliant

21:47

heavily on local knowledge and

21:49

on local participation. The

21:52

number of the animals the

21:54

size of the herd changes from

21:56

city to city, but we rely

21:58

heavily on local participants that come

22:01

and work with us and they

22:03

become the herds in their city.

22:05

So it's a civic act that

22:07

invites people to take part of

22:09

a climate action. And at the

22:11

end of it, when it finishes,

22:14

what do you hope you will have achieved? You

22:17

know, we are theatre makers.

22:19

First and foremost, we're not politicians,

22:21

thank God. What

22:23

I mainly hope to achieve, what

22:25

we hope to achieve is to touch

22:28

the heart. I think that people

22:30

are affected and take action when they're

22:32

moved by something, when they fall

22:34

in love with something, when something becomes

22:36

precious and they care about it. Obviously,

22:39

the science around climate has

22:41

been around. We all know it,

22:43

we all understand it, accept

22:45

the people in power that deny

22:47

it. But we also think

22:50

there's another aspect of this discussion

22:52

that we need to engage

22:54

with, which is an emotional aspect

22:56

that is very important. And

22:58

that's what we hope to achieve.

23:00

We're trying to create an

23:02

immersive visceral experience for people to

23:05

reignite something, to crack

23:07

indifference. Now

23:13

to finish with a story to gladden

23:15

the heart. Two couples who

23:17

married in the same venue on

23:19

the same day 70 years ago

23:21

have just marked their platinum anniversaries

23:23

together. Tommy and Thelma Budge

23:25

had a joint wedding with

23:27

Tommy's sister Violet and Leslie Fletts

23:29

on the 9th of April

23:31

1955 in the Scottish Archipelago of

23:33

Orkney. David Del Day

23:36

joined the anniversary celebrations. The

23:38

beginning of April 70 years

23:40

ago, a resignation from the

23:42

Prime Minister Winston Churchill, and

23:44

this song by Tennessee Ernie Ford,

23:47

top of the charts. Perhaps

23:58

those words had been swirling in

24:00

the heads of Tommy Budge and

24:02

Lysley Flett. Thelma and

24:04

Violet did gift them their word. and

24:07

soon after the four were in

24:09

the Kirkwall at Registrar's office, tying the

24:11

knot. Thelma explains how the

24:13

joint wedding came about. Violet was

24:15

planning to get married later that

24:17

year. Tommy had to go for

24:20

his national service and he was

24:22

away still at the first stages

24:24

of it and he couldn't get

24:26

home twice. So the only time

24:28

that he would all work out

24:30

was on that particular day. and

24:33

he got home on the Friday

24:35

night, I think, when married in

24:37

Saturday and his way in Monday

24:39

morning. It's a day they all

24:41

still remember vividly. After the ceremony,

24:43

they headed to Lacy's parents' house,

24:46

where Violet had a first encounter

24:48

with a particular kind of drink.

24:50

It was a bottler champagne that

24:52

Bill Reed had got, and

24:54

he gave it to us, and I said

24:56

it was the first time that I ever tasted

24:58

champagne in the last time. Oh,

25:00

I did not like it. It

25:03

wasn't my cup of tea at all. In

25:12

what really is a true love story,

25:14

three of the four had all grown

25:16

up and gone to school together in

25:18

the parish of South Royalty. So the

25:20

natural place to go was back to

25:22

brother and sister Tommy and Violet's parents'

25:24

home, up to 30 folk crammed in

25:27

the house for a homemade meal of

25:29

chicken and tatties. Work commitments meant that

25:31

both couples didn't always see as much

25:33

of each other as they might have

25:35

liked. But Violet jokes, that

25:37

might have been part of the

25:39

secret to their success. I worked at

25:41

nights. I was

25:43

home during the day and I was

25:45

out every night. And my man

25:47

worked during the day and he was

25:49

home every night. That was the secret.

25:53

To avoid each other? Yes, to avoid

25:55

each other. Yes,

25:57

that was the secret. Now, you

25:59

may have noticed we've heard quite a

26:02

lot from Violet and Thelma, and

26:04

a bit less Tommy and Leslie. The

26:06

designated spokesperson another part

26:08

of the winning formula. Both

26:10

couples are looking forward to spending the

26:12

day with their Burns, Grand Burns

26:14

and Greek Grand Burns. Today I thought

26:16

I'd never ever reach. It's

26:18

just beyond anybody's expectations. think

26:21

especially all four of

26:23

us still unable to

26:25

take part. It's

26:27

just unbelievable. Violet's advice

26:30

for married life is

26:32

simple. Just tack each

26:34

day it comes. That's

26:36

I can say. Just tack each day as

26:38

it comes. That report was

26:40

from David Del Day. And

26:46

that's all from The Pod now.

26:48

Remember if you've any stories of

26:50

kindness, maybe someone you know has

26:52

gone out of their way to

26:54

change a person's life for the

26:56

better, do email us. The address

26:58

is globalpodcast at .co .uk. And

27:00

can now watch some of our interviews

27:02

on YouTube just for The Pod. This

27:05

edition was produced by Holly Gibbs

27:07

and Harry Bly. It was mixed by

27:09

Craig Kingham. And the editor is

27:11

Karen Martin. I'm Alan Smith, so until

27:13

next time, it's goodbye.

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