40:00

I think it might be Tokyo. Technically, the

40:02

Hong Kong Haunted Mansion's not a haunted

40:04

mansion, because the Chinese government wouldn't let

40:06

them build a ghost story ride

40:09

there. So it sounds like you're narrowed down to two.

40:11

It's either Tokyo or Hong Kong. So

40:13

I could use a hint. Helen, how about

40:15

that first hint? Fantasyland at Tokyo Disneyland is

40:17

where you'll find a version of the Haunted

40:20

Mansion. I think Hong Kong was wrong then.

40:22

Helen? That is correct. That is correct. Hong

40:24

Kong wrong. Fun

40:27

fact, in Paris, the ride is called Phantom

40:29

Manor. In Hong Kong, the ride is called

40:31

Mystic Manor and is in Mystic Point, not

40:33

as we had said Adventureland. An early drawing

40:36

of a map of Disneyland as envisioned by

40:38

Walt Disney, showed what looks like the Haunted

40:40

Mansion in the center of the park, where

40:42

the Sleeping Beauty Castle now is, because what

40:44

better way to welcome children off of Main

40:46

Street USA than by scaring the

40:49

bejesus out of them. So that map was drawn

40:51

by an artist called Hench and the reason that

40:53

the protagonist of my novel Red Team Blues in

40:55

the Bezel is called Hench's For Him. Oh, how

40:57

about that? So it still inspires your work today.

40:59

Indeed, yeah. Oh, that's lovely to hear. All

41:01

right, here's question number four. Fans

41:03

of Disney love to discover hidden mickeys,

41:06

representations of Mickey Mouse that are subtly

41:08

inserted throughout the parks. According to the

41:10

book, The Hidden Mickeys of Disneyland, there's

41:12

a noticeable one in the ballroom of

41:14

the Haunted Mansion made of three similar

41:16

objects. What are those objects? It's a

41:18

dining plate and two side plates. Helen?

41:20

That is correct. That is correct. Very

41:23

nice. No need for the hint there.

41:27

I've walked around in there overnight with a

41:29

maintenance crew. I've actually seen those plates. Oh,

41:31

very cool. Amazing. All right, fun fact. Some

41:34

fans say they've also spotted a hidden Donald

41:36

Duck, a hidden Mr. Toad and a hidden

41:38

Jack Skellington in the Haunted Mansion ride. In

41:40

the Nightmare Before Christmas, Jack Skellington was voiced

41:43

by Chris Sarandon, who appeared on episode 150

41:46

of Go Fact Yourself. And by the

41:48

way, you can buy the book, The Hidden Mickeys of

41:50

Disneyland on the official Disney Books site. Corey,

41:52

here's question five. You have a chance to go five

41:54

for five. You can get this one correct. You do

41:57

still have a hint available. opening

42:00

of the ride Walt Disney released a

42:02

record album titled The Story and Song

42:04

from the Haunted Mansion whose opening track

42:07

presents the story of two teenagers who

42:09

wouldn't you know it come across a

42:11

spooky mansion. The Voice of the Boy

42:13

was provided by future Oscar winner Ron

42:15

Howard and that was going to

42:17

be our question until we

42:20

realized that the author of the article where

42:22

we found this information was Cory Doctorow. Didn't

42:30

seem quite fair to Ida. So instead we're

42:32

going to ask this who provided the voice

42:34

of the teenage girl and

42:36

on what other record about The Haunted Mansion

42:38

released the following year does she also appear?

42:40

Okay the other record is almost certainly thrilling

42:43

chilling sounds of The Haunted Mansion but I

42:45

don't know who it is could I have

42:47

a hint please? I don't know if this

42:49

hint will help but Alan. The

42:51

words in the title of the

42:54

record are contained in the first

42:56

sentence of this question. So now

42:58

I have to remember what the question is. Or I could reread it and

43:00

be nice to you. To

43:03

coincide with the opening of the ride Walt

43:05

Disney released a record album titled The Story

43:07

and Song from the Haunted Mansion whose opening

43:09

track presents the story of two teenagers who

43:11

wouldn't you know it come across a spooky

43:13

mansion. I'm gonna just wing it it was

43:15

it a Nat Funicello. And the

43:17

title of the record? Oh the title of the record

43:19

thrilling chilling sounds of The Haunted House. Alan? That is

43:21

not correct. No I'm sorry. I had a chance to

43:24

steal. I

43:30

think we interrupted something an important daydream you

43:32

were having perhaps. Patty

43:34

Duke? I don't know. It was not Patty Duke.

43:37

No I'm sorry. Robie

43:40

Lester. Robie Lester provided the female voice.

43:42

We have the answer of the other

43:44

album as being Walt Disney presents The

43:46

Haunted Mansion. So I'm sorry no point

43:48

there. Fun fact Robie Lester did lots

43:50

of work for Disney and according to

43:52

some sources wrote a memoir called lingerie

43:55

for hookers in the snow. Which

43:58

for some reason I've been unable to. find on

44:00

the official Disney book site. All

44:03

right, no point there for either of you, but you

44:06

still do quite well in that, Corey. And now here

44:08

is your expert level question that requires multiple answers. It

44:10

is time for your Cluster Fact. All right. We'll

44:14

be bringing on an expert to discuss your response. Corey,

44:17

even though the Haunted Mansion has seen

44:19

changes throughout the decades since it opened,

44:21

Disney Imagineers are careful to drop in

44:23

Easter eggs and links to the past.

44:25

For instance, in 2004, to mark the

44:27

35th anniversary of the ride, they added

44:30

an updated version of the bride named

44:32

Constance Hatchaway, who was shown as a

44:34

ghostly figure holding a hatchet in the

44:36

attic of the mansion and voiced by

44:38

Cat Cressida. That same bride appeared

44:40

in a painting that's been part of the ride since

44:42

its opening in 1969,

44:44

showing her sitting on a gravestone and holding an

44:47

object that is not a hatchet. And

44:49

that 1969 painting was itself modeled on

44:51

a movie publicity image of Joan Crawford.

44:53

So for up to three points, what

44:55

object is held by the woman sitting

44:57

on the grave in that portrait? In

44:59

what part of the ride do you

45:01

see this portrait? And what

45:04

movie's publicity photo of Joan Crawford

45:06

inspired this portrait of Constance Hatchaway?

45:08

Oh my gosh. I want to

45:11

say that the portrait was also

45:13

in the attic. I'm

45:16

going to say that the object was a bridal

45:19

bouquet or a rose. I'm

45:21

going to say a bridal bouquet. And

45:23

I have no idea which Joan, like the only

45:26

Joan Crawford affiliated movie I can name off the

45:28

top is Mommy Dearest. Pretty sure it wasn't that

45:30

one. Okay. But that's what you're going to go

45:32

with. That's what I'm going to go with. All right. Well,

45:34

Helen is taking note of those answers. We

45:37

have an expert on hand. You can

45:39

tell us for sure. Helen, who do we

45:41

have tonight? Joining us tonight is a

45:43

celebrity voice artist who you can hear on

45:45

dozens of TV shows, movies, video games,

45:47

and as the voice of the bride in

45:49

Disney's haunted mansion ride, it's Cat Cressida.

45:51

Cat Cressida. Hello, Cat. Thank

45:55

you. Well,

45:58

Cat, my goodness. In addition to haunted mansion. People

46:00

have heard your voice as the announcer

46:03

for ESPN and Fox Sports in many

46:05

national commercials and as TV movie and

46:07

video game Characters including Electra for Marvel

46:09

DD in Dexter's Laboratory Jesse

46:12

the cowgirl in Toy Story and Princess

46:14

Leia for Star Wars not a bad

46:16

resume Well, I'm fascinated

46:18

because this this long connection that you had

46:21

with Disney your actual first voiceover gig as

46:23

you call it was actually at Disneyland That's

46:25

correct. My parents were dead

46:27

said against it Sorry, there's gonna be a lot

46:29

of kind of mansion puns here She

46:33

brings the haunted mansion to us we can't go there right

46:36

now it's closed I really wanted to

46:38

be skipper on the Jungle Cruise doing the all

46:41

the awesome sarcastic stuff But no, I had

46:43

to be in Storybook land wearing cute little

46:45

skirt and like Cory you have

46:47

a history as a child with the haunted

46:49

Mansion as well. So my dad's sat

46:51

me outside the mansion and I don't

46:53

know what I was picturing I was

46:56

for but we get inside the foyer.

46:58

It took literally about two seconds of

47:00

Paul Freese ghost host and

47:02

I Lost it. I

47:04

was screaming. I was hysterical.

47:06

I had a very vivid imagination God

47:09

knows what I thought was gonna happen and

47:11

I Screamed so loud and hard

47:13

that it was freaking out some of the

47:15

other kids They started to

47:17

cry and a cast member very nicely said to

47:19

my father We'd like to invite you to

47:22

please step outside to enjoy We

47:24

literally got kicked off the ride Wow Wow Tell

47:28

us about how you got the opportunity to be the

47:30

voice of the bride and how you develop that character

47:32

Well, honestly, it was just a straight-up audition

47:34

They wanted everything to be perfect, especially if

47:36

they were going to be working with an

47:38

attraction It's considered a classic attraction All I

47:40

knew was that I was going in to

47:42

Walt as the imaginary Brian F ski the

47:44

casting director said we're gonna give you some Lines

47:47

and we'd just like to see what you do with them and

47:49

it's wedding vows For

47:51

some reason I just leaned into Well,

47:54

what if I was playful with them because

47:57

I got to do something and maybe about

47:59

four days later Brian himself called

48:01

me the casting director because he knew

48:03

what a geek I was for classic

48:06

Disneyland in Disney history and he said I

48:09

can't yet tell you what it's

48:11

for but it's going to be

48:13

in addition to a Disneyland classic

48:15

dark ride. Well there's only two.

48:20

Either one of them would have been breathtaking

48:22

and I started crying on the phone and

48:24

I said I wish you

48:26

hadn't told me that because I won't sleep or eat

48:28

for four days now leading up to this. I

48:30

recorded the lines I knew what her character was because

48:32

I had to do a lot of research to

48:35

really make it sound like she may have been

48:37

part of the mansion always but I didn't know

48:39

what it was going to be so I was

48:41

really scared and I was like this. I

48:45

didn't want to look up and finally like

48:47

Brian's like look it's really

48:49

cool it's really cool and I was like I don't want to

48:52

see it I don't want to see and then I finally saw

48:54

her as we were leaving and I was like oh she's scary.

48:58

Last thing I want to ask you about amongst all of

49:00

this other voice work that you've done you've actually done

49:02

some VO for some political campaigns some

49:04

of those have included for AOC, Vice President Harris

49:07

and President Biden all of whom won. Do you

49:09

ever get to do those fun like negative ads

49:11

where it's like this opponent's claims

49:13

that they that kind of a thing

49:15

or is it more the positive? No

49:18

I feel really honored to broken into this

49:20

part of it because it's been a niche

49:22

I wanted to break into and those kinds

49:25

of campaigns are pretty much out now it's

49:27

much more authentic speaking from the heart yes

49:30

I've done some ads that definitely

49:32

made it clear what you

49:34

know what your affiliations and preferences are yes

49:37

yes you like to voice for winners yes

49:39

yes as well very nice all

49:41

right well let's get to the reason we brought you here

49:44

as far as our game is concerned you heard the questions

49:46

we asked of Corey first we wanted to know what object

49:48

is held by the woman sitting on the grave in the

49:50

portrait of the Haunted Mansion that we discussed Helen what did

49:52

Corey say Corey said a bridal bouquet

49:54

and Kath I heard him say rose at

49:56

the end so it is a rose so

49:58

you're gonna give him a point on that Very generous,

50:01

that's a point for Corey. Next

50:04

you want to know in what part of the ride

50:06

do you see that portrait? Helen, what did Corey say?

50:09

Corey said the attic. And Cat? The

50:11

stretching room. Yeah, I think he knows that one

50:13

now, yes. Also known as the elevator where you

50:15

see that portrait. We have those

50:17

hanging in our house. You have that

50:19

portrait? What? Yeah. That's all

50:21

right. It was in your brain, you just couldn't

50:23

quite pull it out. No worries there. And then

50:26

finally wanted to know what movie's publicity photo of

50:28

Joan Crawford inspired that portrait of Constance Attaway. Helen,

50:30

what did Corey say? Corey said, mommy dearest. And

50:34

Cat? Hush, hush sweet Charlotte.

50:37

Ah, yes, I'm sorry, no point there. Cat, while

50:39

we have you here, Corey, is there anything else

50:41

you'd like to ask or say to her? I'm

50:43

so excited to meet you. I've gotten to meet

50:45

so many folks who've worked on the rides when

50:47

I worked in Imagineering. Have you got

50:50

to spend much time just sort of on a

50:52

walkthrough basis with the ride? Yeah, that's

50:54

so great, isn't it? There's a long interesting

50:57

history between Club 33, which of course you

50:59

know, and the Haunted Mansion Club 33, if

51:01

you don't know, is the private club that

51:03

Walt Disney created that's hidden in plain sight

51:05

in New Orleans Square. A lot

51:08

of the members who are Club 33 members are

51:10

also obsessed and experts at the Haunted Mansion and

51:12

all that. So I've been honored to do a

51:14

number of events where we tie together the two.

51:16

And don't pay me, but let's do something. Yeah.

51:18

Excellent. Well, Cat has been so lovely that you've

51:20

joined us. If people want to find out more

51:22

about you and what you're up to, where can

51:25

they do that? My

51:27

website and social media, in fact,

51:29

on Twitter and Instagram every day

51:32

I post some really cool archival

51:34

footage of Imagineering. Just my name,

51:36

Cat Cressida, catcressida.com, cat with

51:38

a K, Cressida with a C, and Google

51:40

it. Awesome. Well, we're so happy that you

51:43

joined us today. Cat Cressida, everybody. How great.

51:46

Thank you so much for being here. Appreciate

51:49

it. Disney legend. All

51:51

right, Helen, what is our scores we had into

51:53

the final round? It is a tight game, Jay

51:55

Keith. At the end of that round, Ida Rodriguez

51:57

has six points and Cory Doctorow has seven points.

56:00

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56:02

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