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the smartest people we know and

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find out why they love, what

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they love. I'm Helen Hong, and

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now from the Carl Sagan and

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Inquiry in Los Angeles. Here's our

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moderator, Jay Keith Van Stratton! Thank

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you so much! What a fantastic crowd! Hello, Helen,

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how are you? I'm very well, Jay, Keith, how are you? I'm

3:17

doing well. How is the wedding planning going? Well, thank you

3:19

for asking. I am getting married. I think we're down

3:21

to about a six-month countdown. From now, yeah, it's getting

3:24

real. From now, yeah, it's getting, it's down to about

3:26

a six-month countdown. From now, yeah, it's getting real. Yeah,

3:28

it's getting, from now, from now, yeah, from now, it's

3:30

getting, from now, yeah, it's getting, from now, it's getting,

3:32

from now, it's getting, from now, it's getting, it's

3:34

getting, from now, it's getting, it's getting, from now,

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it's getting, it's getting, from now, it's getting, from

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now, it's getting, it's getting, from now, it's getting,

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it's getting, from now, it's getting, it's getting

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And the thing is, it's just that I

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don't want to be cliched. And every time

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I think of something lovely to say about

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my fiance, Sarah, it sounds like a cliched.

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You know, you're the love of my life.

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I'm so lucky to have you. Yeah, you

3:55

know, I can't wait to be on your

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health insurance. And I'll be honest, she is.

4:00

not here tonight she's usually here

4:02

and so I feel safe in

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saying listeners if you have any

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ideas for what I can say

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during my vows please go to

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of the suggestions that you make

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no they still have to buy

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it Helen I'm just saying that

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they can then get it knowing

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that they helped express my love

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for my betrot Oh, this is

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going to get me in trouble.

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Meanwhile, today on Go Fact Yourself,

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two guests will compete to answer

4:38

questions about facts they know, facts

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they may not know, and frankly,

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facts they should know. Plus, we'll

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meet actual experts on two very

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different topics. And finally, we'll declare

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one of our guests the winner

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of today's show. Let's get started

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and meet today's guest. Helen, who

4:55

do we have playing tonight? He

4:57

is an actor and TV host

4:59

known for his work in Sliders,

5:01

Standbyby, Pictionary, and The Black. Lagoon

5:03

and Daughter of Daring, it's Jerry

5:05

O'Connell and Mallory O'Mira! Jerry O'Connell

5:07

and Mallory! I didn't realize I

5:10

would not be able to see

5:12

anybody. I know a lot of

5:14

people are listening to this, but

5:16

this is kind of like a

5:18

Senate confirmation of yours. We're part

5:20

of the cabinet now, Jerry. Oh,

5:22

Mr. O'Connell. Oh, no! They're going

5:24

to tell all our deepest darkest

5:27

secrets. Yeah, no, unlike a congressional

5:29

hearing, this will be fact-based. Oh,

5:31

yes, Congress slam, huh? Oh my

5:33

goodness. Well Jerry, people of course

5:35

know you as an actor and

5:37

now as a successful host of

5:39

talk shows, game shows, and more.

5:41

How did you make that transition

5:43

from acting to hosting? The acting

5:46

worked dried up. I have to

5:48

pivot. No, I read a book

5:50

called Who Move My Cheese. Someone

5:52

gave me a book called Who

5:54

Move My Cheese? And it's about

5:56

like finding the cheese, where it's...

5:58

moved and your cheese was on

6:00

a hosting set? My cheese was

6:03

on a game show. Oh you

6:05

know what actually I was Wow,

6:07

I'm going to sound really fancy.

6:09

I was doing a Broadway show,

6:11

whatever. Humblebrag. Humblebrag. God rest his

6:13

soul, Regis Philbin passed away, but

6:15

Regis Philbin was sick one day,

6:17

and I filled in for him

6:20

with Kelly Rippa. Sounds a little

6:22

suspicious. I'm going to say. No,

6:24

I had nothing to do with

6:26

him. He was in perfect health

6:28

until then. It was strange. Kelly

6:30

Rippa said to me, hey listen

6:32

I'm an actress and I'm telling

6:34

you you should really keep doing

6:37

this as much as possible. Really?

6:39

Very cool. And other people who

6:41

now know you as a host

6:43

who were surprised to learn that

6:45

you had this other career as

6:47

an actor? Yeah, I mean my

6:49

children are teenagers. I tried to

6:51

show them stand by me, but

6:54

they're going to wait until it's

6:56

on TikTok. Understood. With captions. Mallory,

6:58

your new book daughter of daring

7:00

has quite the subtitle. The trick-riding,

7:02

train-leeping, road racing life of Helen

7:04

Gibson, Hollywood's first stunt woman. How

7:06

did you discover Helen Gibson and

7:08

what made you want to write

7:11

about her? I was working on

7:13

my third book, Girls Make Movies,

7:15

which is a book about filmmaking

7:17

for young girls, and I was

7:19

peppering it with women's film history

7:21

because I'm a big nerd. I

7:23

realized that I didn't know who

7:25

the first stunt woman was, I'm

7:28

a big nerd. I realized that

7:30

I didn't know who the first

7:32

stunt woman was, and I was

7:34

really stunned to realize that. to

7:36

moving trains. What? In the 1910s.

7:38

Yep, but little, little slippery booties

7:40

and a long, long dress. Move

7:42

over Charlie Chaplin. Oh yeah. We're

7:45

going to get to chat with

7:47

you two more a little bit

7:49

later, but we did ask each

7:51

of you to provide us with

7:53

a few topics outside your field

7:55

of work that you know and

7:57

love. Jerry, for you, you said

7:59

that was 1980 music, 1980 movies.

8:01

and a little bit of a

8:04

left turn, 1990s, Los Angeles News.

8:06

Whereas Mallory, you said that you

8:08

know and love haunted house books,

8:10

werewolf movies, and another bit of

8:12

a left turn, Washington Capital's hockey

8:14

from 2019 to the present. Later

8:18

on we're going to ask each of you

8:20

some in-depth trivia questions about one of those

8:22

topics, but first we're going to get your

8:24

thoughts on something you might know nothing about.

8:26

It is time to split some hairs with

8:28

our what's the difference round. We'll have one

8:30

question for each of you, each worth up

8:32

to two points. If either of you gives

8:34

an incorrect or incomplete answer, the other person

8:36

has a chance to steal. Your topic today,

8:38

break the bank, first up in break the

8:40

bank is Jerry, Jerry, Jerry, in music. What

8:42

is the difference between a rest and a

8:44

rest and a break. A rest and a

8:46

break in music. A rest is a breath

8:48

if you're playing a read instrument and a

8:50

break is an actual measure of music.

8:52

A measure of music. All right we've

8:55

got Jerry's answer. Don't know yet if

8:57

he's entirely correct. Mallory, anything you'd like

8:59

to add or change. Arrest is where

9:01

you take a nap and a break is where you

9:03

have a snack. We

9:05

were specifically looking for in the world of

9:08

music, but I guess you can do those

9:10

things They're very hungry There are very hungry

9:12

in music All right, well, it's time to

9:14

put this segment to rest. Let's go to

9:17

Helen Hong at the judges table for

9:19

the facts Here are the facts according

9:21

to the Oxford English Dictionary a rest

9:23

in music is simply a period of

9:25

silence of a specified length of time

9:27

either by all the instruments or singers

9:30

or by just some of them a

9:32

break in music is a short solo

9:34

or instrumental passage in a song or

9:36

a part in a song in which

9:38

the instrumentation is paired back to percussion,

9:40

or which otherwise has minimal instrumentation. I

9:42

was so close. I do often see

9:44

a band take a nap during one

9:47

of those breaks. That's right, Helen. A

9:49

rest is also always indicated on sheet

9:51

music by a symbol, just like a

9:53

musical note, while a break might be

9:55

indicated by James Brown shouting, give the

9:58

drummer some, break it down, or... Helen

10:00

break it down now how did our guest

10:02

do? Jerry I'm gonna give you a point

10:04

for saying that break is a measure of

10:06

music you said rest was a breath which

10:09

isn't exactly right so I'm gonna give you

10:11

one point for a break. One point for

10:13

Jerry. Thank you. I tried

10:15

to sound confident, but I had no idea

10:17

what I was doing. Oh, you were winging

10:19

it! It was good. All right, up next

10:22

and break the bank is Mallory. Mallory, your

10:24

question comes from a listener, who is

10:26

it Ellen? It's from Kyle McGowan of

10:28

Anandale, Virginia. Thank you, Kyle. Listeners, if

10:30

you'd like to submit a suggestion for

10:32

our What's the Difference Round, go to

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Go Factor Paw. And click on Get

10:36

Inv. Get Involved. Hi, guest Jay Keith

10:39

and Helen, or emergency backup Helen. My

10:41

name is Kyle McCowan from Falls Church,

10:43

Virginia. And my question for what's the

10:45

difference is? Well, both give a needed

10:48

break for people who are in need.

10:50

What's the difference between a food bank

10:52

and a food pantry? I've listened since

10:54

the first episode and loved the show.

10:57

Bye. All right, Mallory, what's the difference

10:59

between a food bank and a food

11:01

pantry? It could involve Snack, so it

11:03

might be in your wheelhouse. Food Bank

11:06

is a place that serves meals. A

11:08

food pantry is merely a place where

11:10

you go and shop for things. Where

11:12

you shop for things. You like go

11:14

pick up cans and boxes and

11:17

stuff. The ingredients. Yes, yes,

11:19

thank you. All right, well, we've

11:21

got Mallory's answer. We don't know

11:23

yet if she's entirely correct. Jerry,

11:25

anything you'd like to add or

11:27

change. I'm going to completely agree

11:29

with my opponent. That's a shocker.

11:31

News flash, we're teaming up. Oh, changing

11:33

the paradigm. Well, this segment needs to

11:35

be given away. Let's go to Helen

11:37

Hong at the judges table for the

11:39

facts. Here are the facts. A food

11:42

bank is a regional warehouse or distribution

11:44

center where food is collected, inventoryed, and

11:46

distributed to food pantries, which are local

11:49

centers that distribute food directly to people

11:51

in need. Yes, that's right. You can

11:53

tell that Jerry and I are not

11:55

good people. Because he did not know

11:58

this question. Yes, I'm sorry you cannot. Get

12:00

your full-course meal at either of them,

12:02

I believe. That's right, no, about the

12:04

first thing. That's right, there are also

12:06

many more food pantries than food banks.

12:08

Feeding America, for instance, has a network

12:10

that includes 200 food banks, but 60,000

12:12

food pantries. And the size of a

12:15

food bank can be enormous, sometimes even

12:17

bigger than a Costco. But a food

12:19

pantry, especially a mobile food pantry, can

12:21

be as small as a car, which

12:23

you can never find a space for

12:25

at a space for at Costco. Very

12:27

badly. I kind of want to give you

12:29

half a point actually for food pantry because

12:32

you did say it's kind of like where

12:34

people shop for things and you get cans

12:36

and stuff. Wow. Thank you. Yeah I'm being

12:38

generous. I'm feeling generous. Thank you. A generous

12:40

half point for Mallory. Thank you. Thank

12:42

you. All right, let's

12:44

get to know our guests a little

12:47

bit better. Jerry, of course, people know

12:49

you for acting on shows like Sliders,

12:51

Star Trek Lower Decks, and movies like

12:53

Jerry McGuire, and for hosting shows like

12:55

Pictionary, and over 600 episodes of The

12:57

Talk, for which you received multiple nominations

13:00

for Emmy Awards. Wow. Wait, 600 episodes,

13:02

for real? I don't even realize it

13:04

was that many until you said it. How

13:06

many of you think you did? This is

13:08

actually a question. It's going to be for

13:11

points. I thought I only did it for

13:13

like a month, but I guess... My research

13:15

says about four or five years, but I

13:17

guess it was longer. You might

13:20

have been. I hope you got

13:22

paid for all of them. Yeah,

13:24

I should have been giving more

13:26

of that money to food banks,

13:29

I guess. That's on me. There's

13:31

still time. Well, Jerry, on the

13:33

talk, whenever they needed someone to

13:35

eat something crazy or drink something

13:38

crazy or try something crazy, that

13:40

seemed to land to you. my

13:42

bare skin and it was like

13:45

an albino like boa and it

13:47

was huge and I remember I

13:49

let it go on my shoulders

13:51

but I remember looking at the

13:53

camera and saying it's Brittany b'hmm

13:56

well Jerry stand by me was

13:58

your first big break your first

14:00

film, and I understand that you were very excited about it. Your father,

14:02

not quite as much. Yeah, my father, who's actually here in the audience

14:04

tonight. Oh, how wonderful. Hi, Mr. O'Connor. How are you? No, it's so

14:06

funny. We shot stand by me over a summer. My father had the

14:08

work, so we came back home from Oregon. I lived in New York,

14:10

and I was like, dad, it was so great. They had a crane,

14:12

and they let me ride the movie crane the movie crane, and we filmed

14:14

a scene, and they glued a scene, and they glued a scene, and they

14:16

glued a scene, and they glued a, and they glued a, and they glued

14:18

leaches, and they glued leaches to us, and they glued leaches to us, and

14:21

they glued leaches to us, and they glued leaches to us, and they glued

14:23

leaches to us, and they glued leaches to us, and they glued leaches to

14:25

us, and they glued leaches to us, and whose British who's

14:27

here was like, I wouldn't tell

14:29

everyone about this movie if I

14:31

were you. It's an independent movie

14:33

and it will never be released. Oh

14:35

my God! I was like, what? My

14:38

father had a co-worker who left his

14:40

job to go make an intimate movie

14:42

that went nowhere. He gave up his

14:44

position, his title, and I remember we

14:47

went to a Chinese restaurant down the

14:49

street. We were sitting at a table and

14:51

I heard the table and I heard the

14:53

table next to us saying like, have you

14:55

seen stand by me? It's such a good

14:57

movie. No way. And I was sitting there

14:59

and I looked at my father and he

15:01

was like, you're a liar. You're a liar. I

15:03

could have been so cool. Yeah. And Mallory, you

15:06

of course host the podcast Reading Glasses

15:08

and a new sister podcast called Reading

15:10

Smutch and are author of the books,

15:12

Girlly Drinks, Girls Make Movies, and the

15:14

best-selling Lady from the Black Lagoon. I

15:17

love synonyms of the word girl. That's

15:19

fantastic. Lady from the Black Lagoon,

15:21

which was nominated for a Hugo

15:23

Award. Congratulations on all of that.

15:25

Thank you. And

15:28

in your new book Daughter of Daring in

15:30

the introduction you say I'm someone who deeply

15:32

passionately dorkily believes in the power of history.

15:34

Can you tell us a little bit more

15:36

about that? I just think when you know that

15:39

these things are possible and they've been done before

15:41

that it gives you a little more boost that

15:43

you can do it. Especially when it comes to

15:45

women's history. Very nice. Now, your book, of

15:47

course, is about Helen Gibson, as we discussed,

15:49

Hollywood's first stunt woman. How much of Helen's

15:52

work can we still see today? Quite a

15:54

bit, actually. She was in stagecoats, lots of

15:56

Westerns. She was a background actor in Bride

15:58

of Frankenstein, which is really cool. If you

16:00

go on YouTube, you can see a

16:02

lot of her serials, her shorts, that

16:05

are, like, you could see her do

16:07

these stunts. It's really cool. One of

16:09

those serials, I understand, is actually called

16:11

The Hazards of Helen. Yes, her name

16:13

is not Helen. The only, the reason

16:16

why she was given the role. So

16:18

they were like, all right, you're perfect,

16:20

this is fantastic, this is fantastic, the

16:22

only, the reason why she was given

16:25

the role. So they were like, all

16:27

right, you're true, Grant, who's been on

16:29

our show called Reading Glasses, and now

16:31

you've got this spin-off sister podcast called

16:34

Reading Smut. How do you define Smut?

16:36

We define Smut as a story where

16:38

the sort of thrust is an erotic

16:40

story. Got it. It's got some naughty

16:43

bits in it. Yeah, a lot of

16:45

naughty bits. Can I quickly tell the

16:47

story of when I... Oh, I cannot

16:49

wait to hear this. 50 Shades of

16:52

gray was like the book of the

16:54

moment. This is a few years ago.

16:56

And you thought it was about color

16:58

coding? No. He was redoing this house.

17:01

He wanted to see. I want some

17:03

paints watching. You did check it out

17:05

of the Sherwin Williams, I understand. Well,

17:07

I was walking through an airport and

17:10

it was all in the window there.

17:12

And I was like, let me see

17:14

what this is all about. I can't

17:16

tell you the amount of people who

17:19

tapped me and went excuse me and

17:21

said, yeah. It's like, I just started,

17:23

like 20, and they were like, it's

17:25

gonna get crazy. And on reading glasses,

17:28

you don't just talk about the books

17:30

themselves, you talk about the process of

17:32

reading and different likes and dislikes. What's

17:34

been one of sort of the niche

17:36

topics that you've been surprised so many

17:39

people have a strong opinion about? We

17:41

did a whole test one year, we

17:43

found out that the best. snack to

17:45

eat while you're reading is gummy snacks.

17:48

Why? Why? No finger residue. No finger

17:50

residue. Applause for the from the Haribo

17:52

crowd. Thank you. Thank you. I am

17:54

not paid by big gummy. Don't worry.

17:57

Tell us about that. It's called, I'm

17:59

sure it's all true, with my friend

18:01

Ross Blotcher. Yeah, extraordinary claims, extraordinary history

18:03

of extraordinary stuff. Excellent. It sounds, it

18:06

sounds extraordinary. We of course are recording

18:08

this for the Max Fun Drive, which

18:10

is the, yeah. Which of course is

18:12

a special time of year that podcast

18:15

on the Maximum Fund Network, which we

18:17

both are, get to say thank you

18:19

and also ask for money. So I

18:21

want to ask from your perspective as

18:24

someone who now has two podcasts on

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23:18

back to Go Fact Yourself

23:20

with our guests, Jerry O'Connell

23:22

and Mallory O'Mira! Once

23:25

again, here is J.P. Vanstrat. Thank

23:28

you, Helen, thank you, everybody. All

23:30

right, Mallory, of your many interests,

23:32

you told us that you know

23:34

and love Haunted House books, Wherewolf

23:36

movies, and Washington Capital's Hockey from

23:38

2019, to the present, Let's, let's

23:41

find out, from 2019, to the

23:43

present. Let's find out a little

23:45

bit more, from Washington Capital's hockey

23:47

from 2019 to the present. Let's

23:49

find out a little bit more,

23:52

but also like what happened to

23:54

make this reason that it's haunted.

23:56

Yeah, they didn't build it pre-haunted.

23:58

There is some. microfiche montage and

24:00

that is what I'm here for. And

24:03

I love it. And then next tell us

24:05

why you know and love where wolf movies.

24:07

Because they're sexy. No, actually. Where wolf stuff

24:09

is always really exciting to me because

24:11

it represents the taboo. I mean it's

24:13

kind of like haunted house stuff. It's

24:15

like the hidden stuff in our society

24:17

and they're cool. And they're cool. And

24:19

they're cool. And maybe sexy. Very sexy.

24:21

All right. And then finally, tell us

24:24

why you know and love the Washington

24:26

Capitals hockey team from 2019 to the

24:28

present. I became a hockey fan in

24:30

2019. I got into the Washington Capitals

24:32

and I love them and I love

24:34

hockey because when you are a creative

24:36

person professionally, it's hard because a lot

24:38

of the things that you love to

24:40

do for fun are also connected to

24:42

your work. But hockey, I am not

24:44

connected to professionally at all. I cannot

24:46

skate. It's a purely fun thing. All

24:48

so fun. All right Mallory to

24:50

summarize you said you know and

24:52

love haunted house books, werewolf movies,

24:54

and the Washington Capital's hockey team

24:56

from 2019 to the present. Today

24:58

we want to quiz you about

25:00

wherewolf movies. I studied so hard

25:03

for this. Yes. There are so

25:05

many subtypes and different eras of

25:07

wherewolf movies. Which ones are your

25:09

favorites? Lady werewolves. Okay. That also

25:11

have hairy chests. Yes. Yes. Okay.

25:14

Whatever works. We will not yuck and

25:16

anyone's yum. Well just ahead we're going to

25:18

list the help of a bona fide expert

25:20

in your topic with an expert level question

25:22

with up to three points but before that

25:24

to let you show your love here are

25:27

five trivia questions about your topic each worth

25:29

one point if you want it you're a

25:31

lot of hint for any two of these

25:33

five questions now Jerry do listen closely because

25:35

if Mallory answers incorrectly you could steal by

25:38

the way Jerry how much do you know about

25:40

where wolf? Yeah are you vampires or were

25:42

wolves? Yeah, I told you

25:44

we're teaming up. We're teaming up. I do have to

25:46

say it's it's so funny I didn't know

25:48

this is going to be your topic coming

25:50

here I did meet your boyfriend backstage and

25:53

he has quite a bit of like facial

25:55

hair and hair and everything. You have a

25:57

tight. You have a tight. I think Mallory

25:59

is blushing. It's adorable. I'm so embarrassed.

26:01

We were doing a fancy podcast. I

26:03

shaved and everything for this. I messed

26:05

up. All right, here's question number one.

26:08

Seven weeks after his movie about a

26:10

teenager who traveled through time was released.

26:12

What star Back to the Future was

26:14

in a movie about a teenager who

26:17

was in a movie about a teenager

26:19

who was a werewolf called Teen Wolf.

26:21

Michael J. Fox. Helen? That is correct.

26:23

Yes, we're on our way. Fun

26:26

fact Teen Wolf had a sequel

26:28

called Teen Wolf, too, which instead

26:30

of Michael J. Fox star Jason

26:32

Bateman and according to a People

26:34

magazine article from 2016 many people

26:37

confuse Jason Bateman with Jerry O'Connell.

26:39

Yeah, it happens all the time

26:41

people come up to me and

26:43

they're like love arrested development and

26:45

I go like, hey, I do

26:47

too. All right, here's question number

26:50

two. Mallory, Jack Pierce was a

26:52

legendary makeup artist famous for creating

26:54

the flat-topped Frankenstein month. Boris Karloff's

26:56

mummy and Wehrwolf transformations for

26:58

several movies in the 1930s

27:01

and 40s for what movie

27:03

studio. Universal Studios. Ellen?

27:05

That is correct. That is correct for

27:07

the point. Fun fact Universal is

27:09

still bringing Wehrwolves to fans with

27:12

its Curse of the Wehrwolf ride

27:14

in its Orlando theme park. Curse

27:16

of the Wehrwolf has guest quote

27:19

racing through a dark foreboding shed.

27:21

Nice. It's a big shed.

27:23

Well we all dream of doing. Well

27:26

we all dream of doing. Whenever

27:28

I'm in a dark foreboding shed,

27:30

I do want to race through

27:32

it, so I guess it is

27:35

fair. You're two for two Mallory,

27:37

here's question number three. There have

27:39

been a lot of werewolf movies,

27:41

but according to IMDB, which one

27:44

of the following is not

27:46

the title of an actual

27:48

movie involving werewolf. Because I

27:50

know one of the hauling movies

27:53

is marsupials, which doesn't quite count.

27:55

Hold on a second. Hold on a

27:57

second. So they turn into kangaroos? Or

27:59

like what? That's crazy. A wear

28:01

pouch. I gotta see that movie.

28:04

Yeah. Wolf dude. Helen? That is

28:06

correct. That is correct. Well

28:09

there's wolf cop so I don't know.

28:11

There is wolf cop that was debating

28:13

whether to put that one in. That's

28:16

the sequel where he's retired. He retires

28:18

and goes to Malibu and becomes a

28:20

wolf dude. Yeah, yeah, no wolf dude

28:23

is the one that we made up.

28:25

Fun fact, a movie called The Wherewolf

28:27

is thought to be the very first

28:29

werewolf movie released in 1913. There have

28:32

been eight films in the howling franchise

28:34

so far. Howling to your sister is

28:36

a where is a where. A

28:39

lot of bleeping in this episode,

28:41

yes. I love that your sister

28:43

is a werewolf. It was, they

28:45

just right out the gate, it

28:48

was number two. Like they didn't,

28:50

it wasn't like number seven. Yeah.

28:52

We were getting tired. Yeah. I

28:54

guess it would be like a

28:56

number seven title, but they're like,

28:58

no, sister is a wolf. All

29:00

right, you're three for three, here's

29:02

question, number four. In the cult

29:05

classic The Monster Squad, what? Nards.

29:07

Helen? Correct. That is correct. I

29:09

couldn't tell if you were upset

29:11

that we asked such an easy

29:13

question or that you that you

29:15

resented the fact that we made

29:17

you say Nards. No, no, this

29:19

is great. Okay, great. Fun fact,

29:22

the slang term Nards originates from

29:24

Spike Nard, a fragrant plant from

29:26

ancient times, and Nards are still

29:28

fragrant today. All right. You

29:31

did not need the hint in

29:33

that, but Helen, what would that

29:35

hint have been? It rhymes with

29:37

blards. You're welcome. It certainly does.

29:40

How are your parents enjoying the

29:42

show, Jerry? Oh my God. Dad,

29:44

hearing aid on? Could you hear

29:46

on this? Might want to turn

29:48

it down. All right, Mallory, you

29:50

have a chance to go five

29:53

for five. You can get this

29:55

question correct. You do still have

29:57

a hint available. Although the classic

29:59

way to kill a were werewolfin

30:01

movies, is with a silfs. bullet,

30:03

you might also get them to

30:06

sneeze to death because part of

30:08

many movies lore is that were

30:10

wolves are allergic to something called

30:12

wolfsbane, more formerly known as acheniteum

30:14

napelis. That same flower is also

30:16

known by what other name in

30:19

the Ginger Snaps movie franchise where

30:21

it's used to slow down the

30:23

rate of were wolf transformations. Monkshood?

30:25

Helen? That is correct! No hints

30:27

needed! And Mallory on Mira is

30:29

five for five for five! You

30:31

were like no problem. I have

30:34

a big wolf's bane tattoo. So

30:36

do you really? Wow, we'll get

30:38

a shot of that afterwards. But

30:40

do you have a tattoo of

30:42

nerds? Not yet. Yeah. Yeah. Fun

30:44

fact when it comes to the

30:47

achenitum napelis and humans according to

30:49

the National Capital Poison Center swallowing

30:51

any part of the plant could

30:53

be deadly while according to the

30:55

school of homeopathy it is often

30:57

indicated for individuals who experience who

31:00

experience intense fear anxiety and restlessness.

31:02

So choose your source. Although, to

31:04

be fair, death is a great

31:06

way to stop feeling restless. All

31:08

right, Mallory, you obviously did very

31:10

well in that round, but now

31:13

it is time for your expert

31:15

level question that requires multiple answers.

31:17

It is time for your cluster

31:19

fact. We'll be bringing out an

31:21

expert to discuss your response. In

31:23

1981 a werewolf movie, unlike any

31:25

other, was released. Starring David Norton

31:28

and directed by John Landis, the

31:30

film combined horror comedy, romance, and

31:32

was awarded the first Oscar ever

31:34

for makeup effects. It also spawned

31:36

a sequel and paid homage to

31:38

other werewolf movies. For up to

31:41

three points, what is this iconic

31:43

werewolf movie? What was its sequel?

31:45

And what 1941 Lon Cheney werewolf

31:47

movie does the main care? talk

31:49

about in the film. American Wearwolf

31:51

in London, American Wearwolf in Paris,

31:54

and the Wolfman. Wow. I don't

31:56

think we've ever had a guest

31:58

just rattle off the cluster fact

32:00

answers that fast. Incredible. Mallory's got

32:02

reservations for dinner right after so

32:04

I understand she's eager to get

32:06

out of here. Well Helen... Just

32:09

taking note of those answers, we

32:11

have an expert on hand, I

32:13

can tell us for sure. Helen,

32:15

who do we have tonight? Joining

32:17

us tonight is an actor and

32:19

singer whose many career accomplishments include

32:22

starring in an American werewolf in

32:24

London. It's David Nautin! David Nautin!

32:26

Right behind you! I'm

32:29

so glad I got them all right.

32:31

I love where I love werewolves. Excellent.

32:33

Well, David, we're going to let Mallory

32:35

compose herself for a moment, but we

32:37

welcome this wonderful response. David Addition to

32:40

an American Will Wolf in London, which

32:42

we'll talk about in a little while.

32:44

You of course have performed on Broadway,

32:46

you were regular on TV shows, My

32:48

Sister Sam, and Making It, for which

32:50

you sang the theme song, which became

32:52

a top five hit, and you've appeared

32:54

on everything from Melrose Place to Seinfeld

32:56

to Gray's Anatomy and starred for several

32:58

years in the I'm a Pepper commercials

33:00

for Dr. Guilty

33:05

as John. Well, what a conviction. So

33:07

tell us about how you got that

33:09

campaign for Dr. Pepper. Well, you know,

33:11

this was before Carbonation, so this goes

33:13

back. Yes, you had to get it

33:16

from the swamp, I understand. Yeah, so

33:18

yeah, I went to an audition in

33:20

New York with many guys and we

33:22

were supposed to, you know, we're jeans

33:24

and sneakers so we could move, basically.

33:26

And I said, there's no way, you

33:28

know, in a New York dance audition,

33:30

you got real dancers, you know, you

33:32

know, so. Before I knew it, I

33:34

was on my way to Los Angeles.

33:36

We shot for 22 days. Wow. Well,

33:38

actually, I mean, I think the statute

33:40

is run out, but the song was,

33:43

I'm a pepper, you're a pepper. Wouldn't

33:45

you like to be a pepper to

33:47

be a pepper, to be a pepper,

33:49

to be a pepper, to be a

33:51

pepper, to be a pepper, to be

33:53

a pepper, to be a pepper. You

33:55

got to talk yourself into a lot

33:57

of stuff. Yeah. So let's talk about

33:59

an American werewolf in London getting that

34:01

role. You actually didn't audition for that.

34:03

No, I met with John Landis, who

34:05

had written it. He'd been coming off

34:08

of the Blues Brothers, an animal house.

34:10

He said, here, here's the script, read

34:12

it. Call me tomorrow, writes down his

34:14

office number. I was expecting, you know,

34:16

is there going to be a screen

34:18

test? A strip search? What's a strip

34:20

search? I could know, no, but I'd

34:22

like to be a passenger. But that's

34:24

all there was to it. So there

34:26

was just something about you that he

34:28

liked. He was like, he met you

34:30

and he was like, that's the wolf

34:33

dude. He told me later, if these

34:35

guys, he was talking about the boys,

34:37

that's how we were referred to as

34:39

the boys, when he was talking to

34:41

Rick Baker who wanted to find out

34:43

who he had cast, if David can

34:45

be. likeable in a 30-second commercial, he

34:47

can probably be likable in my 96-minute

34:49

movie. He wanted the audience to relate

34:51

to us, you know, and make us,

34:53

you know, root for us. And the

34:55

other boy, of course, was the actor

34:58

Griffin Dunn. Griffin Dunn? Yeah, he was

35:00

cast in New York. I was cast

35:02

in LA. We all just sort of,

35:04

you know, would do whatever it is

35:06

that, you know, he asked for. He

35:08

says, would you mind getting in a

35:10

wolf cage naked naked? That's amazing. Well

35:12

let's talk about that makeup process. That

35:14

of course was an Oscar winning feat

35:16

for Rick Baker. Tell us about what

35:18

that makeup process was like. So he

35:20

wanted me to get right over to

35:23

Rick's shop. So they made molds of

35:25

your face? They started with my arms.

35:27

You can see there is a, you

35:29

know, either on a DVD where they,

35:31

you know, they like to feature special

35:33

edition. You're like in a barber chair.

35:35

They got you covered in plastic bags

35:37

because this is... quick drying cement you

35:39

know if any of you've had a

35:41

mold done of your teeth this is

35:43

it only it's going on your head

35:45

you can't hear anymore you can't see

35:47

anymore and they're doing they're checking on

35:50

you like are you okay they're actually

35:52

going are you okay yeah they're saying

35:54

you okay and you're in there going

35:56

great and great and how surprised Were

35:58

you when you saw the final results?

36:00

Did you think it would look as

36:02

good as they did? Well, they made

36:04

me buy a ticket. I think that's

36:06

a one. You know, come on. I

36:08

think... You're waiting for a... took him

36:10

out a home video. I'm going, you

36:12

know, hey, I'm waiting for the DVD.

36:15

Oh yeah. There were no DVDs. So

36:17

when people say, how is that DVD

36:19

for? But that scene where you transform

36:21

into a werewolf is really an amazing

36:23

scene. And you give a great performance

36:25

because you're really in pain, it looks

36:27

like. I was really in pain. There's...

36:29

that transformation. So it's worth it. You

36:31

would agree worth it? It's kind of

36:33

worth it to them. Universal didn't complain.

36:35

Mallory, do you have anything you want

36:37

to ask her say to David while

36:40

we have him here? I know you're

36:42

so overwhelmed right now. I mean I'm

36:44

just such a huge fan. It's so

36:46

iconic. It's so iconic. It's one of

36:48

those things that I had never, you

36:50

know, had any idea that we'd be

36:52

talking about. made me want to be

36:54

a makeup artist. And many people, you

36:56

know, I've never had someone come in

36:58

and say, you've made me want to

37:00

be a werewolf. They've never said, where's

37:02

that wolf cage? I gotta get back

37:05

in that. Well, Mallory will be talking

37:07

with you backstage, so we'll see what

37:09

questions you come up with then. Let's

37:11

get to the reason we brought you

37:13

here as far as our game is

37:15

concerned. Oh yes. The questions that we

37:17

asked of Mallory, first we want to

37:19

know. What is this iconic? First we

37:21

want to know, what is this? What

37:23

is this? That we asked of Mallory?

37:25

First we want to know, of the

37:27

point of the point of the point

37:29

of Mallory. Of course. Of course, of

37:32

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37:34

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37:36

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37:38

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37:40

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37:42

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37:44

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37:46

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37:48

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37:50

Paris. And David? Correct. Correct again, another

37:52

point for Mallory. And finally, we wanted

37:54

to know what 1941 Lan Cheney werewolf

37:57

movie does the main character played by

37:59

someone named David Nautin. Talk about... in

38:01

the film. Helen, what did Mallory say?

38:03

Mallory said the Wolfman. Correct to Mundo.

38:05

Correct again. A perfect game. A perfect

38:07

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38:09

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38:11

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38:13

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38:15

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38:17

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38:19

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38:22

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38:24

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38:26

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38:28

we're so happy you're around today. Thank

38:30

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38:32

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38:34

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38:36

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38:38

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38:40

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38:42

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42:11

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42:13

our guests Jerry O'Connell and Mallory

42:15

O'Meara! Once again,

42:17

here's Jakey Ben Stratton. Thank you

42:19

so much everybody. All right, Jerry,

42:21

of your many interests. You told

42:24

us that you know and love

42:26

1980s music, 1980s movies, and 1990s

42:28

Los Angeles News. Let's find out

42:30

a little bit more about each

42:32

of those. First, tell us why

42:34

you know and love 1980s music.

42:36

Well, I was a young man

42:38

around those times, and some of

42:40

my earliest exciting memories are linked

42:42

to 80s classic music. I took

42:44

an edible one before the show

42:46

and it didn't hit me until

42:48

David walked out. And then it

42:50

just was like a tsunami. Yeah.

42:52

It's just me and you here.

42:54

Yeah. Next, tell us why you

42:56

know and love 1980s movies. Again,

42:58

grew up in that time and,

43:01

um... Is it because you're in

43:03

one? Yeah, I guess so. I

43:05

mean, it's my life, yeah. Yeah.

43:07

Well, and finally, tell us why

43:09

you know and love 1990s, Los

43:11

Angeles News. I love local news.

43:13

And when I moved here to

43:15

Los Angeles, I came here from

43:17

New York City. I was obsessed

43:19

with like learning more about the

43:21

city. I mean a very local

43:23

news station here. It's been around

43:25

I believe since before the 90s.

43:27

Yeah. Where do you stand on

43:29

Kelly Lang versus Colleen Williams? Okay

43:31

those are anchors. Those are local

43:33

anchors. I love them all. I

43:35

love all anchors. You're not going

43:37

to choose favorites. All right so

43:40

to summarize Jerry you said you

43:42

know and love 1980s music, 1980s

43:44

movies and 1990s Los Angeles News.

43:46

Today we want to quiz you

43:48

about 1980 music. I can do

43:50

that. Who are some of your

43:52

favorite artists of that era? You

43:54

know, I have to tell you

43:56

here in Los Angeles, the Hollywood

43:58

Bowl annually has like a yacht

44:00

rock review and it's like Kenny

44:02

Logins comes out and Michael McDonald.

44:04

and Christopher Cross and I know

44:06

I go with my wife and

44:08

my wife turned to me when

44:10

Christopher Cross was playing sailing and

44:12

my wife was like this is

44:14

the most romantic thing anyone has

44:17

ever done. We felt um what's

44:19

the word love for each other?

44:21

We felt um what's the word

44:23

like love for each other? Oh

44:25

wow! Well just to had Jerry

44:27

Wernon list the help of a

44:29

bona fide expert in your topic.

44:31

For any two of these five

44:33

questions. Do listen closely because if

44:35

Jerry answers incorrectly and that edible

44:37

kicks in even more. No jokes,

44:39

jokes, jokes. You could steal. You

44:41

could steal. By the way Mallory,

44:43

how much do you know about

44:45

1980s music? Actually quite a bit.

44:47

I'm more of a metal head,

44:49

but I'm more of a metal

44:51

head, but I do know, I'm

44:53

more of a metal head, but

44:56

I do know, I really like

44:58

80s music. Well most of these

45:00

will focus on pop music of

45:02

that era, but we'll see what

45:04

comes up. 25 years after it

45:06

was first a top 10 hits.

45:08

Guys, this is actually unfair. I...

45:10

I swear Jerry, if you get

45:12

this wrong. Lean on me. That's

45:14

a joke everyone. Stand by me.

45:16

Stand by me. Also a 1980s

45:18

movie. Yeah, all right. Actually, fun

45:20

fact, not the original title of

45:22

that film. Yeah, the original title

45:24

was The Body, which was the

45:26

title of the short story that

45:28

it was based on. Oh, that

45:30

is such a not a good

45:33

title. Yeah, yeah. Not as good

45:35

of a song, either. Yeah. Fun

45:37

fact, the song Stand By Me

45:39

reached number four on the Billboard

45:41

charts in 1961. That exact same

45:43

recording reached number nine in 1986.

45:45

The song was written by Lieber

45:47

and Stoller. yourself. Wow. Yeah. All

45:49

right, here's question number two. There

45:51

were some monster hit songs in

45:53

the 1980s, but what Olivia Newton

45:55

John's song spent 10... weeks at

45:57

number one in the US more

45:59

than any other single in the

46:01

1980s. I mean it's got to

46:03

be physical right? Helen, does it

46:05

got to be? It got to

46:07

be! Yes it does, it is

46:10

physical. 10

46:12

weeks at number one. Fun fact,

46:14

the songwriters originally envisioned Rod Stewart

46:17

singing physical. Interesting. Yes, but decided

46:19

he just didn't look as good

46:21

in a white leotard layered over

46:24

the gentle leggings. No, he would

46:26

have looked great. He just didn't

46:28

want to do it. All right,

46:31

Jerry, you're two for two. Here's

46:33

question number three. There were some

46:35

amazing singer songwriters who made their

46:38

debut in the 1980s. Was it

46:40

Tracy Chapman? Mark. Kone, Bruce Hornsby,

46:43

Cindy Loper, or someone named Christopher

46:45

Cross. I'm gonna go with Mark

46:47

Kone. Helen? That is correct. That

46:50

is correct. Very nice! That

46:53

is correct fun fact Christopher Cross

46:55

was the first best new artist

46:58

to also win album of the

47:00

year record of the year and

47:02

song of the year all in

47:04

one night Mark Cohn whose music

47:06

would be one of my three

47:09

topics if I were on this

47:11

show One in 1992 and I

47:13

just saw him in concert two

47:15

nights ago Nice, thank you. Year

47:17

three for three here's question number

47:19

four the 1980s saw several songs

47:22

released as social awareness and fundraising

47:24

efforts for various causes and featuring

47:26

a wide variety of artists known

47:28

ones was We Are the World

47:30

by USA for Africa, another country

47:32

star came together for the same

47:35

cause with their song, Tears are

47:37

not enough. From what country were

47:39

all of those singers of that

47:41

song? Can I get the hint,

47:43

please? Whoa. You may. Yes, Helen,

47:46

how about that first hint? The

47:48

song features singing from Brian Adams.

47:50

Gordon Lightfoot, Anne-Marie, and Paul Schaefer.

47:52

Gotta be Canada. Our good friends

47:54

and good neighbors, Canada. Helen, is

47:56

it Canada? Yes, it is. Fun

47:59

fact, the group was called Northern

48:01

Lights and had a course that

48:03

featured S. TV stars including John

48:05

Candy, Eugene Levy, and Catherine O'Hara

48:07

and of course Alan Fick. Awesome!

48:10

All right, you have a chance

48:12

to go five for five, Jerry.

48:14

If you can get this question

48:16

correct, you do still have a

48:18

hint available. Okay. The final number

48:20

one song of the 1980s was

48:23

Another Day in Paradise by Phil

48:25

Collins. But Collins isn't the only

48:27

recognizable voice on the track. What

48:29

singer a songwriter and guitarist who's

48:31

been inducted into the Rock and

48:34

Roll Hall of Fame was for...

48:36

his work with the Birds. The

48:38

other was for his time with

48:40

CSN. Okay, I'm gonna go with

48:42

David Crosby, I guess. Ellen? That

48:44

is great! Yes! Jerry Appanel is

48:47

also five for five! We are

48:49

crushing it! What a panel of

48:51

guests! Fun fact, David Crosby also

48:53

provided backing vocals for Mark Cohn,

48:55

winner of the 1992 Grammy Award

48:57

for Best New Artist. Who I

49:00

saw performed two nights ago. You

49:02

love Markone. I know he's coming

49:04

back to that guy. Yeah. All

49:06

right, Jerry, you obviously also did

49:08

very well in that round, but

49:11

now here is your expert level

49:13

question requiring multiple answers. It is

49:15

time for your cluster fact. Okay.

49:17

I believe in you. We'll be

49:19

bringing you on an expert to

49:21

discuss your response. Jerry, in 1981,

49:24

a song that combined elements of

49:26

New Wave and Pop had a

49:28

popular music video that combined the

49:30

song with cheerleading. The song went

49:32

to number one on the charts

49:35

and was so influential that Weird

49:37

Al Yankovic released a parody of

49:39

it, which was also on the

49:41

charts, and RunDMC lifted the structure

49:43

of the song for a hip-hop

49:45

track that also hit the charts

49:48

in the 1980s, for up to

49:50

three points. What's the name of

49:52

this? 1987 run DMC track. Okay,

49:54

the name of the song is

49:56

Oh Mickey. Mm-hmm. The Weird Al

49:58

parody. I just don't know it.

50:01

I'll say, oh, sticky. I'm not

50:03

quite familiar with the Weird Al,

50:05

but the RunDMC song will be,

50:07

it's tricky. All right. Well, Helen

50:09

is taking note of those answers.

50:12

We have an expert on hand.

50:14

I can tell us for sure.

50:16

Helen, who do we have tonight?

50:18

Joining us tonight is a Grammy,

50:20

an Emmy-nominated singer, dancer, dancer, and

50:22

choreographer who had a number one

50:25

hit with that song. It's. Tony,

50:33

welcome. You look absolutely fantastic. Thank

50:35

you. And I've been listening to

50:38

this show. It is so much

50:40

fun. Thank you. And everybody is

50:42

so smart and funny. It's just

50:45

really an enjoyable show. Well, thank

50:47

you. I've tried to tell you

50:49

on the phone, but uh... We

50:51

love it. We love to hear

50:54

that. Tony Bazzle, my goodness. Just

50:56

some of your credits, you made

50:58

your screen debut at age 19

51:00

dancing with Frank Sinatra. Then appeared

51:03

with Elvis Presley in Viva Las

51:05

Vegas with Jack Nicholson in Five

51:07

Easy Pieces. You've done choreography for

51:10

movies like American Graffiti, Legally blonde,

51:12

and once upon a time in

51:14

Hollywood. You're a member of the

51:16

lockers, the groundbreaking street dance team,

51:19

and have worked with music legends

51:21

including Tina Tina Turner, David. the

51:23

Museum of Modern Art and the

51:25

Lincoln Center Library of Performing Arts.

51:28

Thank you. We're out of breath.

51:30

Yeah. Just reading your credits. And

51:32

you are still at it. You

51:34

actually have a new song coming

51:37

out that is sort of also

51:39

an old song. Tell us about

51:41

that. It's a new old song

51:44

that I recorded in 1966 and

51:46

I just last year acquired ownership

51:48

of the Master. Wow. It's called

51:50

Breakaway. Just put up on live

51:53

streaming and we're going to start

51:55

promoting it when you air your

51:57

podcast. This is it! The emotional

51:59

tour begins tonight. It's called Breakaway.

52:02

Breakaway. And of course, Hey Mickey

52:04

is up on all well. My

52:06

first question actually is, what is

52:09

the title of the song? Because

52:11

I've heard people say, Mickey, Oh,

52:13

Mickey, Hey, Mickey. What is the

52:15

name of this incredible song that

52:18

you've done? Call it anything you

52:20

want. Go buy it. As long

52:22

as the check it's sent to

52:24

you. Actually. I added a cheerleader

52:27

chant despite the fact nobody wanted

52:29

me to do it. Really? Nobody

52:31

wanted me to do it. No

52:33

way. But I knew the power,

52:36

you know, I was head cheerleader,

52:38

I knew the power of the

52:40

stomps and the claps and the

52:43

chance in the gymnasium. And I

52:45

always thought that would be great.

52:47

for a song. Dorsey High Cheer

52:49

Leaders are the cheerleaders, the chant

52:52

on the song. The Carson High

52:54

Cheerleaders are the cheerleaders in the

52:56

video, which you can go to

52:58

my YouTube channel and see. Yes.

53:01

Well, speaking of seeing your video,

53:03

I understand you bought a little

53:05

special treat for us tonight. I

53:08

did. I did. You can look,

53:10

but you can't touch. Okay. She's

53:12

pulling something out of her bag.

53:14

Oh my God! It's an amazing

53:17

cheerleader sweater. That

53:21

is the actual sweater that you

53:23

wore in the video and your

53:25

actual cheerleading sweater from high school

53:27

It's my head cheerleading sweater from

53:29

Las Vegas High Wow incredible. It

53:31

does say LVH and it has

53:33

your name little script on it.

53:36

Oh my god. That's so cool

53:38

Thank you so much for sharing

53:40

that with us. That's lovely. You

53:42

know that that chant was going

53:44

to be like burned into everybody's

53:46

brains. There's a movie called Mickey

53:49

17, which is used, the song

53:51

is used for the promo, was

53:53

used for the promo for Deadpool

53:55

Wolverine, just recently. Right. Everybody uses

53:57

a piece of that puzzle. Yeah.

53:59

And it's always the chant. Yep,

54:01

yep, that's the part that people

54:04

know yeah, that's right. I actually

54:06

still have my 45 that I

54:08

bought from 1980 or whatever you

54:10

do I I meant to bring

54:12

the 45 of that and for

54:14

breakaway because that's you know I

54:16

think you did pretty well in

54:19

the bringing things department though. That's

54:21

pretty special. Well it's interesting you

54:23

know our topic is 1980s music

54:25

and you were telling me before

54:27

that you actually felt very isolated

54:29

from 1980s music. Oh yeah I

54:32

thought I said oh no no

54:34

no you can't ask me questions

54:36

about music because I was doing

54:38

seven songs seven videos then I

54:40

was in England doing two BBC

54:42

specials of my own, that two

54:44

wonderful producers from Manchester saw these

54:47

video promos in a record shop

54:49

and saw that I had directed,

54:51

choreographed them, edited. I mean, I

54:53

did everything. I did everything to

54:55

me. And so they called me

54:57

up and said, would you like

55:00

to have a half hour special,

55:02

which turned out to be two

55:04

specials, of your own. I went,

55:06

yeah, okay, you know, so I

55:08

was in England doing that, editing,

55:10

editing the BBC specials in my

55:12

hotel room. What's the offline? Yeah,

55:15

very offline. These big, these big...

55:17

pieces of equipment were brought in

55:19

and yeah I were like a

55:21

tic-toc star before tic-toc yeah I

55:23

well I have now tic-toc too

55:25

yeah she's not she's not afraid

55:28

of tic-toc you know I'm trying

55:30

to keep up at oh baby

55:32

is tough we should be so

55:34

lucky as to be able to

55:36

keep up the way that you

55:38

do it's incredible the video is

55:40

something that people very closely associate

55:43

with the golden era the beginning

55:45

of MTV what was it like

55:47

to a lot because no because

55:49

I made these videos as promotional

55:51

videos for Europe. So then I

55:53

had the BBC specials. Then it

55:55

was only then when it became

55:58

a big hit in the UK

56:00

and in Australia that I even

56:02

got an American deal. So then

56:04

by then there was MTV. So

56:06

when I came back from Europe

56:08

I I already had the videos.

56:11

I had everything ready. I was

56:13

I was armed and ready. You

56:15

didn't know that you needed to

56:17

be, but you had what you

56:19

needed. That's incredible. You mentioned, of

56:21

course, that Mickey is still in

56:23

the popular culture. It's been part

56:26

of movie campaigns as recently as

56:28

this year. Why do you think

56:30

it's had such staying power? I

56:32

think there was something about that

56:34

simple chant. And you know, the

56:36

stomps and the claps are also

56:39

cheerleader. Right. You know, and it's

56:41

just, it's haunting. But the rest

56:43

of the song is so damn

56:45

catchy. The chorus is really catchy.

56:47

Anybody can sing along to that

56:49

chance. Right. You know, it's so

56:51

accessible. Yeah. That's incredible. Well, we've

56:54

only scratched the surface of your

56:56

incredible legendary career. Let's get to

56:58

the reason we brought you here

57:00

as far as our game is

57:02

concerned. You heard the question that

57:04

we asked of Jerry Jerry. New

57:07

Wave pop and cheerleading. Helen, what

57:09

did Jerry say? Jerry said, oh,

57:11

Mickey. And Tony? I think he

57:13

was right. All right, that's a

57:15

point for Jerry. That's what matters.

57:17

Next you want to know, what

57:19

was the name of the Weird

57:22

Al Yankovic parody? Helen, what did

57:24

Jerry say? Jerry said, oh, Stickey.

57:26

And Tony? No, it was Hey

57:28

Ricky. Hey Ricky. That's right, it

57:30

was all about Ricky Ricardo. Ricky

57:32

and Lucy. They did a whole

57:35

big, yeah. But I want to

57:37

say, as a guess, for not

57:39

knowing that, Oh Stickey does sound

57:41

like it would be a weird

57:43

house song. Yeah. Dare I say

57:45

funnier than over there? Yes, I'm

57:47

sorry, no point there, Jerry. Finally

57:50

want to know, what's the name

57:52

of the 1987 Run DMC song,

57:54

which lifted the structure of that

57:56

1981. And Tony. Oh, that is

57:58

correct. That is correct. Thank you.

58:00

Miss Basil, this is so crazy

58:02

that you're here. Literally two days

58:05

ago, Drew Kerry. Are you familiar

58:07

with Drew Kerry? Sure. Your name

58:09

came up with him and he

58:11

said, oh, have you seen the

58:13

beach blanket bingo movies with Tony

58:15

Basil dancing? And I was like,

58:18

no. And he's like, you can

58:20

see her dancing right there on

58:22

screen. And I went back and

58:24

literally. days ago I watched you

58:26

like in the back of these

58:28

like films and these huge dancer

58:30

teams. I was an assistant choreographer

58:33

to the great dancer choreographer David

58:35

Winters who starred in the original

58:37

West Side story and I became

58:39

an assistant in the 60s and

58:41

we started to choreograph all these

58:43

beach films and he always featured

58:46

me. So I'm in a fabulous

58:48

red bikini. Dancing in the sand,

58:50

so spectacular. Well speaking of spectacular,

58:52

you are absolutely spectacular. It's been

58:54

wonderful that you joined us. Thank

58:56

you. Tony people want to find

58:58

out more about you or your

59:01

work where can they do that?

59:03

I have a YouTube channel called

59:05

Tony Basel's house I also have

59:07

an Instagram called official Tony Basel

59:09

which is almost kind of weekly

59:11

yeah I thought social media would

59:14

leave him behind but it hasn't

59:16

no it really hasn't we're gonna

59:18

have to catch up to you

59:20

what a joy to have you

59:22

here Tony Basel everybody Tony Basel

59:27

All right, Helen, what is the score

59:29

as we go into the final round?

59:31

Wow, that was exhilarating and it is

59:33

a really tight game, Jay Keith, at

59:36

the end of that round, Mallory O'Mira

59:38

has eight and a half points and

59:40

Jerry O'Connell has eight points. Oh, that's

59:42

a point, baby, good night! Who cares?

59:44

I met Tony Basel, who cares? Now

59:49

it is time for a final

59:51

round. We call fast facts. I'll

59:54

read 10 statements and each contestant

59:56

will answer it with true or

59:58

false. I'll start with Jerry and

1:00:00

then alternate. Each correct answer is

1:00:02

worth one point. Again, please. answer

1:00:04

each statement with true or false

1:00:06

and we will go fast. Here

1:00:09

we begin. Jerry you have an

1:00:11

apostrophe in your name. True. Mallory

1:00:13

you have an apostrophe in your

1:00:15

name. True. Correct. Happy St. Patrick's

1:00:17

Day everybody. Jerry Domino's Pizza has

1:00:19

an apostrophe in its name. True.

1:00:21

Mallory Papa John's Pizza has an

1:00:23

apostrophe. True. Incorrect. No they don't.

1:00:26

Jerry Godfather's Pizza has an apostrophe.

1:00:28

False. No, they really do. Mallory,

1:00:31

Little Caesar's Pizza has an apostrophe.

1:00:33

False? Correct. Yeah. Jerry, the word

1:00:35

apostrophe comes from the Greek. Yeah,

1:00:37

it sounds Greek. Yeah, true. Correct.

1:00:40

Mallory, the Greek word means born

1:00:42

of. True. Incorrect. Jerry, the Greek

1:00:44

word means owner of. True. Incorrect.

1:00:46

Mallory, the Greek word means bringing

1:00:49

together of. False. Correct. And finally,

1:00:51

Jerry, the Greek word means mediocre

1:00:53

pizza. False. All right, let's get

1:00:55

Jerry O'Connell and Malera Mira nice

1:00:58

hand as Helen tabulates the final

1:01:00

score. By the way Papa Johns

1:01:02

used to have an apostrophe. In

1:01:04

this economy you can't afford these.

1:01:07

Yeah, exactly. Little Caesar's never had

1:01:09

one. The Greek word apostrophe means

1:01:11

the act of turning away. Oh.

1:01:13

Just what I do when someone

1:01:16

serves me. Little Caesar's pizza. No,

1:01:18

they're wonderful. You get two of

1:01:20

them. How could that be bad?

1:01:22

Helen are you ready to pronounce

1:01:25

a winner on today's show? I

1:01:27

am at the end of the

1:01:29

game Jerry O'Connell has 11 points

1:01:31

and Mallory O'Mira you were the

1:01:34

facting champion on go-fact yourself a

1:01:36

standing ovation from Jerry O'Connell. We

1:01:38

were a thinly Jerry. Very gentlemanly

1:01:40

Mallory what will you do with

1:01:43

your championship? I am hungry me

1:01:45

and my boyfriend are going to

1:01:47

go get dinner. That just leaves

1:01:49

the opportunity for everyone here to

1:01:52

mention or promote anything they might

1:01:54

like Mallory. Where can people find

1:01:56

you and what you're up to?

1:01:58

malloryomara.com for all my stuff, Instagram.

1:02:01

Mallory. Mary O'Mara, all that. I'm

1:02:03

the only Mallory O'Mara, I think.

1:02:05

I think I've killed

1:02:07

all the other ones.

1:02:09

Wow! Oh, I'm jealous!

1:02:11

Yes, watch out other

1:02:13

Mallory O'Mira's! And thanks

1:02:15

for being here, the

1:02:17

Mallory O'Mira! Mary O'Mira!

1:02:19

Mary O'Connor, what a

1:02:21

pleasure, where can people

1:02:23

find what you're up to?

1:02:25

You know what, I'm not

1:02:28

kidding, I'm going to. I

1:02:31

love you Helen. We're going to find you. Thank

1:02:33

you so much. You can follow me on

1:02:35

the socials at Funny Helen Hong because I

1:02:37

haven't killed the other Helen Hongs yet. I

1:02:39

can give you some hot tips if

1:02:42

you need them later. Good thing conspiracy

1:02:44

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1:02:46

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1:02:50

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