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1:14

right now, here's Helen from

1:16

a few weeks ago. Are you

1:19

a real know-it-all? Do you

1:21

annoy your family by shouting

1:23

the answers while watching Jeopardy?

1:25

Do you drive people crazy

1:28

when you start a sentence

1:30

with, well actually, well guess

1:32

what, you can go fact

1:34

yourself! Hi

1:39

everyone, welcome to Go Back to

1:41

Yourself, the show where we quiz

1:43

the smartest people we know and

1:45

find out why they love, what

1:47

they love. I'm Helen Hong, and

1:49

now from the Carl Sagan and

1:51

Andrian Theater at the Center for

1:53

Inquiry in Los Angeles. Here's our

1:55

moderator, Jay Keith Van Stratton. Thank

1:57

you so much. Thank you, everybody.

2:00

Hello, Helen. Hello, Jakey. How's

2:02

everything with you? Everything is

2:04

fine and dandy. How's it going with

2:06

you? It is going well. As you

2:08

may know, I am currently planning a

2:10

wedding. Yes. It is mine. Also my

2:13

fiancé's. I'm not just, I'm not marrying

2:15

myself this time. And we have reached

2:17

a pretty important milestone. We are getting

2:19

ready to send out our invitations. But

2:22

actually we are getting ready to create

2:24

invitations. It turns out there are a

2:26

lot of options out there for making

2:28

invites. Yeah, check out Pinterest. And

2:30

we were recommended to a site that makes

2:32

some really nice ones. And so we checked

2:35

it out and oh my gosh, these are

2:37

so lovely. We don't see prices on them.

2:39

And at the bottom of the page it

2:41

says prices start at $50,000. What? $50,000. Wait,

2:43

for the invites? For the invitations. Are

2:46

these people going door to

2:48

door to the houses and like

2:50

a town crier and be like,

2:52

hello, my lady, you are cordially

2:54

invited? If I spend $50,000 invitations,

2:56

I am inviting you to

2:59

my bankruptcy hearing. Like, that

3:01

is bonkers. I have never heard

3:03

of that. Yes, so we may be

3:05

making our own and I hope our

3:07

guest enjoy macaroni art. We'll see how

3:09

that goes. Well, meanwhile, today on Go

3:11

Fact Yourself, two guests will compete to

3:13

answer questions about facts they know, facts

3:15

they may not know, and frankly, facts

3:17

they should know. Plus, we'll meet actual

3:20

experts on two very different topics. And

3:22

finally, we'll declare one of our guests

3:24

the winner of today's show. Let's get

3:26

started and meet today's guess. Helen, who

3:28

do we have playing tonight? She

3:31

is an actor, whose career includes

3:33

five seasons playing Marie on Breaking

3:35

Bad. And he is an

3:37

actor whose career includes seven seasons

3:40

playing Jake on Star Trek

3:42

Deep Space Nine. It's

3:45

Betsy Brandt and Sir

3:47

Rock Loftin. Betsy and

3:49

Sir Rock! Oh my God! Actors

3:51

from two of my favorite

3:54

shows of all time.

3:56

I'm dying inside right

3:58

now. I'm freaking out. about

4:00

how much you love the pilot script

4:02

for breaking bad, but you also said

4:04

that you didn't think it would actually

4:07

get made? I knew we would make

4:09

the pilot, but I was like, what

4:11

network in the studio is going to

4:13

say, let's put a bunch of money

4:16

into this teacher who makes math. I

4:18

also for the record want to say,

4:20

I've loved the idea of West Wing,

4:22

but I didn't know if that was

4:25

going to go either. So development is

4:27

really not where your strong suit lies.

4:29

years old. Yeah, that's incredible. What was

4:31

it like being a child on a

4:34

major TV set? It was good because

4:36

I was able to use the biggest

4:38

tool a kid has which is imagination

4:40

and that's you know for Star Trek

4:43

that's important. Yeah, definitely. You mean the

4:45

phasers weren't real? The space isn't real

4:47

but I made it real. We all

4:49

made it real. We all are alert.

4:52

We're gonna get to chat with you

4:54

a little bit more later but we're

4:56

gonna get to chat with you a

4:58

little bit more later but we asked.

5:01

Betsy, for you, you said that was

5:03

the plays of Anton Chekhov, baking pies,

5:05

and cheese. Whereas, Iraq, you said that

5:07

you know and love Tupac's Macaveli album,

5:09

the Kobe Bryant-era Lakers Championships, and the

5:12

Twilight Zone original series. Yeah, well later

5:14

on we're going to ask each of

5:16

you some in-depth trivia questions about one

5:18

of those topics, but first we're going

5:21

to get your thoughts on something you

5:23

might know nothing about. It is time

5:25

to split some hairs with our what's

5:27

the difference round. We'll have one question

5:30

for each of you, each worth up

5:32

to two points. If either of you

5:34

gives an incorrect or incomplete answer, the

5:36

other person has a chance to steal.

5:39

Your topic of Grand Rapid... Michigan! Listeners

5:41

if you'd like to submit a suggestion

5:43

for our what's the difference round go

5:45

to go fact your pod.com and click

5:48

on get involved. All right Betsy Stephen

5:50

asks while both are used by masses

5:52

of people what's the difference between opiate

5:54

and opioids. Opiates and opioids. Opiates are

5:57

a derivative of corn. Opioids are made

5:59

out of green beans. Green, corn versus

6:01

green beans. Yes. Yes, the suckotash of

6:03

the opiate world. Yes. All right, we

6:06

don't know yet if Betsy's correct or

6:08

not. Sirak, anything you'd like to add

6:10

or change. I would say the difference

6:12

would be. It's coming to you. It's

6:15

coming to you? That one of them

6:17

is produced artificially and one of them

6:19

is produced naturally through plants. But which

6:21

though? Corn and beans. Yes, I would

6:24

say opioids are plant-based and opiates are...

6:26

medically artificially based. All right, well, this

6:28

segment needs a fix. Let's go to

6:30

Helen Hong at the judges table for

6:33

the facts. Here are the facts. An

6:35

opiate is a natural compound that is

6:37

derived from the poppy plant like morphine

6:39

or heroin. An opioid can be a

6:42

natural compound, but more often refers to

6:44

a synthetic or semi-synthetic compound, usually developed

6:46

in a laboratory or in an RV.

6:48

It's kind of right. There's a reason

6:50

we started with Betsy. That's right, Helen.

6:53

The suffix ooid at the end of

6:55

opioid indicates that it is similar to

6:57

the real thing, like how something ovoid

6:59

is shaped like an egg, but not

7:02

necessarily an egg, or how a hemorrhoid

7:04

is like a hemorrhage, but if it's

7:06

too much like one, you're going to

7:08

want an opioid. Helen, how did our

7:11

guest do? One of you got it

7:13

correct, Sarak, you were on to it,

7:15

but you actually switched. I know, that's

7:17

all right. Well, up next, an opiate

7:20

of the masses is Sarak. Sarak, while

7:22

both might put you to sleep like

7:24

an opioid, what's the difference between a

7:26

Catholic church service and a Catholic mass?

7:29

A church service and a mass. I

7:31

would say a service happens every weekend

7:33

and a mass is something that happens

7:35

on special occasions like Easter or Christmas.

7:38

All right, very clear. We don't know

7:40

yet if you're entirely correct. Bessie, anything

7:42

you'd like to add or change. It's

7:44

all about communion, my friends. Service could

7:47

be a none or another clergy person,

7:49

but Mass has to be priest and

7:51

only priest and only priest or I

7:53

guess the Pope would do. He's although

7:56

he's not well-lit now, but if he

7:58

was up for it, he would do

8:00

it. But that's very nice of you

8:02

to allow the Pope to suffice in

8:05

that instance. at the judges table for

8:07

the facts. Here are the facts. In

8:09

Catholicism, a church service is led by

8:11

a deacon or lay person who performs

8:14

all the ceremonial duties. A mass requires

8:16

a priest. And yeah, that's what I

8:18

say. to consecrate the bread and wine

8:20

for holy communion. That's right, only a

8:23

priest, or perhaps a Pope, is ordained

8:25

to bless the bread and wine, so

8:27

no priest, no mass, but sometimes at

8:29

a church service, bread and wine are

8:31

given out, but they have been blessed

8:34

by a priest at a previous mass.

8:36

In other words, leftovers. Helen, how did

8:38

our guest do? Betsy got both points

8:40

on that. Congratulations Betsy! I think we're

8:43

done now. I think now... All those

8:45

years of Catholicism served you well Betsy.

8:47

Yeah, thank you. All right, well now

8:49

let's get to know our guess a

8:52

little bit better. Betsy, of course, in

8:54

addition to Breaking Bad for which you

8:56

won a SAG award, people will know

8:58

you from movies and TV shows, including

9:01

Boston Legal, Masters of Sex, Life and

9:03

Pieces, the Michael J. Fox show, Parenthood,

9:05

and the unicorn, on which you worked

9:07

with someone in Helen Home! We were

9:10

widows. We had a widow widow group,

9:12

but we had a widowed woman. Great.

9:14

How long were you sitting on that

9:16

one? I thought of it today on

9:19

the way here. Oh, great. I thought

9:21

of it today, but I'm pretty sure

9:23

I made. some joke like that where

9:25

we were working. You were always joking

9:28

on set. And that's what I enjoyed

9:30

working with you. And we were supposedly

9:32

drunk the entire time, but it was

9:34

grape juice, guys. Yes, yes! Because last

9:37

time I was like, I don't know

9:39

what you're gonna say. One day the

9:41

Pope will bless your great views on

9:43

set. Hopefully. This may be the quickest

9:46

turnaround we've had because you were an

9:48

expert on our show very recently and

9:50

you had so much fun that you

9:52

wanted to come back as a guess.

9:55

I know but I'm really nervous. Are

9:57

you? Yes, yes, because last time I

9:59

was like, I don't know what you're

10:01

going to choose. But what if I

10:03

don't know enough? Yeah. I mean, we

10:06

could ask you about green bean suddenly.

10:08

Yeah. That I might know. I might

10:10

know more than you think, kind of.

10:12

Well, I want to ask you more

10:15

about breaking bad. You had such great

10:17

chemistry with Dean Norris who played your

10:19

husband on the show. And you actually

10:21

met at the audition? Yes. And I

10:24

said, I think this is funny. Do

10:26

you think this is funny? And he

10:28

goes. Oh yeah. Like this is funny.

10:30

full-on comedy. And until season three, I

10:33

think I kept saying it was a

10:35

dark comedy and then I would say

10:37

it was a dark, dark, dark, dark,

10:39

dark, dark comedy. And then I was

10:42

just like, I don't, it's not. You

10:44

were waiting for the laugh track after.

10:46

Well, sometimes it's not. You were waiting

10:48

for the laugh track after. Well, sometimes

10:51

it was there. You were waiting for

10:53

the laugh track after. Well, sometimes it

10:55

was there. Well, sometimes it was there.

10:57

You were waiting for the laugh track.

11:00

Well, it. You were waiting for the

11:02

laugh track, after. You were waiting for

11:04

the laugh track, after. You were waiting

11:06

for the laugh track, after. After after.

11:09

You were waiting for the laugh track,

11:11

after. You were waiting for the laugh

11:13

track, after. Well, after. Well, after. You

11:15

were waiting for the laugh track, after.

11:18

Well, after. Well, after. You were waiting

11:20

for the laugh track, after. You. You.

11:22

You. You were waiting for the laugh

11:24

couldn't stay away from the story because

11:27

the writing was so good. Were people

11:29

in your life constantly like come on

11:31

you got to give me something? No

11:33

but I will tell you this when

11:36

I did better call Saul I did

11:38

not even tell my mother I was

11:40

doing that. I went back to New

11:42

Mexico but that's not weird for me

11:44

I love it and we still have

11:47

a you know life and friends there

11:49

but I didn't want to ruin it

11:51

for the fans you know that it

11:53

was kind of fun to collectively keep

11:56

that secret. for fun'sies. Yeah, shopping. I

11:58

know a lot of actresses when they,

12:00

I know a lot of actors when

12:02

they grow up would play dress up.

12:05

I read that you used to play

12:07

news when you were a little... Oh,

12:09

I could do that right now. What

12:11

did that look like? Right here, this

12:14

just in. Yeah, I had a bake

12:16

light phone that I would answer and

12:18

I would hold papers up and read

12:20

it and I was, I would do

12:23

that now. You said actress and then

12:25

you corrected yourself. Yes. Were you worried

12:27

there? How do you feel about that

12:29

as an actress? As long as you're

12:32

talking nicely to me, I don't, you

12:34

know, if it's a big deal for

12:36

someone, then fine, but it's not for

12:38

me. But you know, if someone's giving

12:41

me a little attitude, like actress, I'm

12:43

like, okay, doctorate. You know, even if

12:45

they're like examining me, I'll pull that

12:47

out. Always a fun time at The

12:50

Doctor with Betsy Grant. So Rock, you've

12:52

appeared on shows like Days of Our

12:54

Lives, CSI Miami, Soul Food, and of

12:56

course 71 episodes of Star Trek Deep

12:59

Space Nine. And on

13:01

DS9, which I believe it is called,

13:03

you played Jake, the son of Benjamin,

13:05

who was played by Avery Brooks. Like

13:07

Betsy, you actually got to audition with

13:09

someone who became a long-time seat partner

13:12

for you. I saw Avery Brooks there

13:14

in the final audition. He ran up

13:16

to him and instantly called him dad.

13:18

I figured that was gonna be my

13:20

dad. He was only a other black

13:23

guy in the room. He recounts the

13:25

story and he tells me. You know,

13:27

Sirok, when you first came in that

13:29

room and you gave me a hug

13:32

and you gave me a hug and

13:34

you gave me a hug. I remember

13:36

saying, saying, this kid's wearing cologne? Were

13:38

you? I was. Yeah. Oh, just trek?

13:40

Yeah. You're like, I'm a grown up

13:43

now. You got a smell, a winner,

13:45

you know. Yeah. But you actually had

13:47

somewhat of a real father-some relationship with

13:49

him off the set, too. Absolutely. He's

13:51

like a real father figure for me.

13:54

He's been a role model in my

13:56

life. He's... help me with and you

13:58

know every aspect of my life just

14:00

growing up and finding myself as a

14:02

young man he led by example by

14:05

you know his professionalism his how he

14:07

carried himself, his work ethic, you know,

14:09

and just how he generally treated people

14:11

with kindness and respect and spoke up

14:13

on people's issues, you know, standing up

14:16

for people when they were mistreated. So

14:18

just in general an amazing leader and

14:20

fitting that he's a captain. A legit

14:22

captain. A legit captain. Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.

14:24

Well, of course, you also host a

14:27

podcast called The Seventh Rule. You've had

14:29

hundreds of episodes and on that you've

14:31

re-watched Deep Space Nine. What has that

14:33

experience been like for you. to see

14:35

something, especially when you were so young.

14:38

See, I didn't rewatch it, actually watched

14:40

it. Oh! I didn't know that. You

14:42

didn't watch it the first time around?

14:44

No, I didn't watch it the first

14:46

time around. Um, actually really enjoyed the

14:49

show. I loved watching it. I got

14:51

too fall in love with the characters.

14:53

Were you a Star Trek fan going

14:55

in? Get out. Open the door. I

14:57

know, I know. But you've developed an

15:00

appreciation for it. I had a knowledge

15:02

of it. I was aware of it.

15:04

wasn't completely like oblivious to it, but

15:06

my best friend growing up Damon was

15:08

a big Star Trek fan and he

15:11

would always tell me about how. Beautiful

15:13

Marina Certis is counselor Troy. So you've

15:15

got to watch this. You got to

15:17

watch this show Are they telling stories?

15:19

Just watch it for her. There's a

15:22

real nice community that you've built up

15:24

because you're not just watching these shows

15:26

by yourself or with a co-host You're

15:28

bringing on people who helped create these

15:30

shows And of people who helped create

15:33

these shows and of course, you've had

15:35

so many episodes that you've moved on

15:37

to other series I'm curious is there

15:39

something that you've Star Trek themes is

15:41

infinite diversity and infant combination and that's

15:44

what we try to reflect in the

15:46

crew and the cast and you know

15:48

the morality of the show. You know

15:50

my best friend on the show was

15:52

a Ferengi so we got to see

15:55

inner speech. relationship. Yes we are very

15:57

we are very pro-interspecies relationships on this

15:59

show. It comes up a lot. Lastly

16:01

when I ask you about Sorock your

16:04

last name is Lofton. When I first

16:06

heard that name I thought oh I

16:08

wonder if he's related to that famous

16:10

baseball player probably not and then it

16:12

turns out you are. Yeah. Tell us

16:15

who your relation is. Yeah my uncle

16:17

Kenny Lofton on my dad's side obviously

16:19

and we actually played basketball together in

16:21

a league before that. Just carrying the

16:23

Lofton legacy now is going to be

16:26

the responsibility of my daughter now. So

16:28

she's going to make her own name

16:30

there, right? And I understand there was

16:32

a very famous episode of Deep Space

16:34

Nine where there was a baseball game.

16:37

Did that help with your baseball skills

16:39

having that in the family? Not at

16:41

all. Okay, not at all. Uncle Kenny

16:43

was busy, uh, shock and fly balls.

16:45

playing baseball for real. And I understand

16:48

there was a very famous episode of

16:50

Deep Space Nine where there was a

16:52

baseball game. Did that help with your

16:54

baseball skills having that in the family?

16:56

Nah. No, okay, not at all. Uncle

16:59

Kenny was busy checking five balls. Yeah,

17:01

he was actually. Playing baseball for real.

17:03

I was acting it, but no, the

17:05

relationship is there. Well, it's wonderful to

17:07

have you both here. Helen, what is

17:10

our score heading into the break? Going

17:12

into the break, Betsy Brandt has two

17:14

points and Sir Rock Lofton has zero

17:16

points. But those scores are bound to

17:18

change as we move on to questions

17:21

about topics our guests have chosen for

17:23

themselves. That's all up ahead when we

17:25

come back on Go Fact Yourself. Say

17:32

you like video games. And who

17:35

doesn't? I mean some people probably

17:37

don't. Okay, but a lot of

17:39

people do. So say you're one

17:41

of those people and you feel

17:44

like you don't really have anyone

17:46

to talk to about the games

17:48

that you like. Well, you should

17:50

get some better friends. Okay. Yes,

17:52

you could get some better friends,

17:55

but you could also listen to

17:57

Triple Click. A weekly podcast about

17:59

video games hosted by me, Kirk

18:01

Hamilton. Me, Maddie Myers. And me,

18:03

Jason. Jason Shire. We'll show you

18:06

new things to love about games

18:08

and maybe even help you find

18:10

new friends to talk to you

18:12

about them. Triple click. It's kind

18:15

of like we're your friends.

18:17

Find us at

18:19

maximum fun.org or

18:21

wherever you get

18:24

your podcasts. Once

18:26

again, here's J.P. Van Stratton. Thank you

18:29

so much, Helen. Betsy Brand of your

18:31

many interests, you told us that you

18:33

know and love the plays of Anton

18:35

Chekhov. Yes, I do. Baking pies and

18:38

cheese. Let's find out a little bit

18:40

more about each of those. First, tell

18:42

us why you know and love the

18:45

plays of Anton Chekhov. Oh, because they're

18:47

so good. And also, I mean, he's

18:49

really such a force that changed theater

18:51

to make it what it is that

18:54

we know. I mean, it used to

18:56

be so presentational and make it. Tell

18:58

us why you know we love baking

19:00

pies. I love to bake pies. If

19:03

I can put it in a crust,

19:05

I'll do it. My dream is to

19:07

have a pie company. I've been working

19:09

on this and that's one of my

19:12

love languages. What's your favorite pie? My

19:14

favorite to eat is the fruit pies.

19:16

My favorite to bake is pakam pie.

19:18

I could make that in my sleep.

19:21

But I love to make Akish. Mostly

19:23

because my son loves loves it. And

19:25

you consider Akisha pie. Cheese, good, pie,

19:27

good. Chekhov, well you eat that. Good.

19:30

Yes, that's very well articulated. And then

19:32

finally, tell us why it is that

19:34

you know and love cheese. I'm not

19:36

an animal. All right, so to summarize,

19:39

Betsy, you said you know and love

19:41

the plays of Anton Chekhov, baking pies,

19:43

and cheese. Today we want to quiz

19:45

you about the plays of Anton Chekhov.

19:48

Great. Have you gotten

19:50

to play any check-off roles in your career?

19:52

I actually yes, I have in college I

19:54

played masha And I played arena when I

19:56

studied with the Moscow Arts School And also

19:58

I'm a big fan of his one axe

20:00

my favorite being the bear And I also

20:02

worked on that in college, too Very cool.

20:04

Well a little behind the scenes when I

20:07

had asked you to be on the show

20:09

We were trying to come up with your

20:11

topics I said oh, what about something in

20:13

pop culture? And you said the plays of

20:15

Anton Chekhov I think I just said Anton

20:17

Chekhov to which my friend said it's like

20:19

he wanted chapel roan and you said Anton

20:21

Chekhov and I was like You know what,

20:23

it's still part of the, it's still part

20:25

of the culture, it's still very popular. On

20:27

the chapel Rhone of his day. Yes, yes,

20:30

that is true. That's right, yes. No, I

20:32

bet that whole, the imagery of the pink

20:34

pony is incredible. Yes, yes, yes, the pink

20:36

pony of Moscow. Yeah. Well just to add

20:38

Betsy we're going to enlist the help of

20:40

a bona fide expert in your topic with

20:42

a question worth up to three points but

20:44

before that to let you show your love

20:46

here are five trivia questions about your topic

20:48

each worth one point if you want it

20:51

you're a lot of hint for any two

20:53

of these five questions now Soroc do listen

20:55

closely because if Betsy answers incorrectly you could

20:57

steal by the way Soroc how much do

20:59

you know about the plays of Anton Chekhov?

21:01

I think he was on the original series

21:03

right? I love a

21:06

Star Trek reference. All right Betsy,

21:08

here's question number one. So nervous.

21:10

Although his plays have been translated

21:13

into dozens of languages, in what

21:15

language were the plays of Anton

21:17

Chekhov originally written and performed? Russian.

21:20

Correct. That is correct with the

21:22

point. Spaseba. Fun fact, in addition

21:24

to being a successful writer, Chekhov

21:27

was also a dedicated medical doctor,

21:29

but it still wasn't enough for

21:31

his mother. Here's question number two.

21:34

Even if someone has never seen

21:36

a checkoff play, they're likely familiar

21:38

with one of his concepts of

21:41

dramatic writing, which states that if

21:43

an element is introduced in the

21:45

first act, it should be used

21:48

by the third. He illustrates this

21:50

concept with what object? Gunn. Ellen?

21:52

Bang. That is correct. Fun fact,

21:55

Chekhov's gun, as it's known, does

21:57

refer to Anton Chekhov and not

21:59

Pavel Chekhov from Star Trek. Because

22:02

of course Iraq, that would be

22:04

Chekhov's phase one. By the way,

22:06

Walter Koenig, who played Chekhov on

22:09

Star Trek, appeared on episode 57

22:11

of Go Fact Yourself. All right,

22:13

Betsy, you were two for two.

22:16

Here's question, number three. For people

22:18

not familiar with Russian names, it

22:21

may be hard to keep track

22:23

of the character names in Chekhov

22:25

plays. But let's see how you

22:28

do. Which one of the following

22:30

character names is not from a

22:32

Chekhov play? Is it Nikolai Ivan

22:35

Nov? Olga Sergei Jevna Prosovora, or

22:37

a stranger. I'll take Martina and

22:39

revetal over for her. A stranger.

22:42

Helen, is it the stranger? It

22:44

is not the stranger. No, I'm

22:46

sorry, it's a rock with a

22:49

chance to steal. Yeah. Your face

22:51

says it all. I'm going to

22:53

say. Olga over Shefruk, the Olga,

22:56

the Olga one. Helen, is it

22:58

the Olga one? It is not

23:00

the Olga one. Is it the

23:03

second one? Ivanov is from the

23:05

play Ivanov. Ivan Petrovich vonitzki is

23:07

the titular Uncle Vanya. Olya Sargenevra

23:10

Prosovora is one of the three

23:12

sisters, and a stranger enters the

23:14

cherry orchard. Yelena Nikolayeva is not

23:17

a check-off character, but did win

23:19

an Olympic gold medal for Russia

23:21

in racewalking. All

23:24

right. And bonus fun fact, there

23:26

was an Olympic event called race

23:29

walking. I would crush it. No

23:31

point there, but let's see if

23:33

you can bounce back. Here's question

23:35

number four. Although best known for

23:37

his long four act plays, Chekhov

23:40

also wrote several shorter pieces. One

23:42

is so short, it was captured

23:44

on film in its entirety in

23:46

25 minutes and 30 seconds. The

23:48

piece is a monologue warning the

23:51

audience of the harmfulness of what

23:53

popular crop. Hint. Helen, how about

23:55

that first hint? Judging by how

23:57

popular vaping is, it's a substance

23:59

people apparently still need to be

24:01

warned of. How about tobacco? Helen.

24:04

Correct. Here you go. Back on

24:06

the board. Fun fact, the piece

24:08

is called on the harmfulness of

24:10

tobacco. That 25-minute version we mentioned

24:12

was directed by Paul Newman, who

24:15

apparently did not take its message

24:17

to heart because on an episode

24:19

of the game show, what's my

24:21

line, he and his wife laughingly

24:23

mentioned that their baby had eaten

24:26

a cigarette. All right, here now

24:28

is question number five. One of

24:30

Chekhov's lesser-known four-act plays was first

24:32

published nearly 20 years after his

24:34

death. Although originally untitled, it was

24:37

adapted into The Present and opened

24:39

on Broadway in 2017. That production

24:41

was the first time a cast

24:43

entirely with actors from one particular

24:45

country performed on Broadway. What country

24:48

was that cast from? Give me

24:50

a big old hand. Helen, how

24:52

about that big old hand? Of

24:54

the 10 largest countries in the

24:56

world by area, it's the one

24:58

with the fewest land borders. Australia!

25:01

Helen? That is correct. That is

25:03

correct to the point. Very nice

25:05

news of the hints. Someone's having

25:07

a good day. Fun fact, the

25:09

present featured the Broadway debut of

25:12

Kate Blanchett. That play has been

25:14

adapted into plays called Platonov. Platonov

25:16

a play in four acts in

25:18

five scenes. Platonov an abridged version

25:20

of an untitled play in four

25:23

acts. And that worthless fellow Platonov.

25:25

Which frankly just seems a little

25:27

mean. It is a little mean.

25:29

Yeah, just call it untitled. You

25:31

did quite well in that round

25:34

Betsy, but now here is your

25:36

expert level question that requires multiple

25:38

answers. It is time for your

25:40

cluster fact. Okay. We'll be bringing

25:42

on an expert to discuss your

25:44

response. Betsy, we've mentioned all of

25:47

Chekhov's four major plays, except one,

25:49

the play that is generally considered

25:51

to be the first of those

25:53

four and is still produced to

25:55

this day. For up to three

25:58

points, what Russian theater star known

26:00

for his acting method starred as

26:02

Tregoran and DeWaz. the famous production

26:04

of the play at the Moscow

26:06

Art Theater. Next, at what Westside

26:09

Los Angeles Theater established in 1969

26:11

was an acclaimed run of the

26:13

play recently completed. And what is

26:15

this play by Anton Chekhov? Stanislavsky.

26:17

Siegel. Okay, and what's the other

26:20

part of the question? Westside Los

26:22

Angeles Theater did it recently complete

26:24

an acclaimed run. I don't know,

26:26

all I can think of is

26:28

the Geffen. At the Geffen. Yeah.

26:31

In fact, we have two. Helen,

26:33

who do we have tonight? Joining

26:35

us tonight are two actors who

26:37

recently completed an acclaimed run of

26:39

that play by Anton Chekhov here

26:41

in Los Angeles. It's James Tupper

26:44

and Carlos Carrasco. James Tupper and

26:46

Carlos Carrasco. Of course, James, people

26:48

will recognize you from your work

26:50

on shows like Revenge, Big Little

26:52

Lies, Aftermath, and as Dr. Perkins

26:55

on Gray's Anatomy. Well, Carlos, you

26:57

also work all the time, you've

26:59

been on Broadway, and people will

27:01

remember you from your roles in

27:03

Speed, Parks and Recreation, Star Trek

27:06

Prodigy, Star Trek Voyager, Star Trek

27:08

Voyager, and something called Star Trek

27:10

Deep Space Nine. Before

27:14

we talk about your work recently

27:16

with Jackoff, Carlos, let's talk about

27:18

your being on Deep Space Nine.

27:20

You've actually been in an episode with

27:22

Sir Rock. I did a wonderful

27:24

show. I was a guest with the

27:26

Ferengi with Armin Shimmerman. And I had

27:29

a wonderful time. Were you a

27:31

Ferengi? Were you a Ferengi? And I

27:33

had a wonderful time. Were you

27:35

a Ferengi? Without the forehead rid of

27:37

the makeup chair. to become a cling

27:40

on. I gotta tell you, that's

27:42

an experience. I have seen what it

27:44

takes and you know that's a

27:46

big sacrifice because you end up getting

27:48

to the set three, four hours before

27:51

everybody else. Absolutely. You're on overtime

27:53

before you ever shot a single scene.

27:55

And then you have to take

27:57

it off. Taking it off. is no

27:59

small thing. Taking it off is another

28:02

hour and a half. And in

28:04

fact, in the makeup room, they warn

28:06

you, they say, you know, when

28:08

you're done today, do not attempt to

28:10

take this off by yourself, because you

28:13

will rip half of your face

28:15

off. Yikes. It's very intense making. Let's

28:17

talk about Chekhov. Helen mentioned that

28:19

you recently completed a run of a

28:21

Chekhov play. How recent was that, James?

28:24

Is about 40 minutes ago. I

28:26

was leaving the theater and they tackled

28:28

me. Well you did have a

28:30

nice long run that actually did end

28:33

with your performance today. We did. Today!

28:35

So this is the cast party!

28:37

Great! Congratulations and thank you for making

28:39

the time. Yeah. James, you played

28:41

Tregor and Carlos, you played Shamriev, and

28:44

I actually was fortunate enough to

28:46

see this production just this weekend. It

28:48

was great, and I commented to you

28:50

afterwards, James, that was my second

28:52

time seeing the play. The first time

28:55

I saw that play, I thought

28:57

this is the most boring experience I've

28:59

ever had in my life, and then

29:01

when I saw your play, it

29:03

was super fun and entertaining. It was

29:06

like... two hours and there was

29:08

lots of laughs throughout and then for

29:10

some reason Chekhov ended his comedy with

29:12

a with a suicide. It's so

29:14

it's so strange and the audience's faces

29:17

seemed like they were just so

29:19

shocked and they feel like they had

29:21

come to trust us and then the

29:23

trust was broken. as they saw

29:25

it, but I think it's very moving

29:28

and beautiful. Now James, you've described

29:30

yourself as a check-off officinado. Carlos, had

29:32

you had experience working with check-off before

29:34

this production? Not really. I kind

29:36

of avoided check-off for a while because

29:39

I had that mistake and impression

29:41

that I think a lot of people

29:43

do that going to check-off is a

29:45

snooze fest, you know, that everybody's

29:47

just going to be depressed and is

29:50

the sum of our boiling and

29:52

are we going to Moscow. Who wants

29:54

to sit through three hours of weeping

29:57

about Moscow? Just cut the damn

29:59

cherry trees down! I

30:01

would want to one person show if

30:04

you're explaining what check-off is in that

30:06

way though. Yeah, but what was wonderful

30:08

about this production was that discovery and

30:11

much credit to the director who made

30:13

it a point to bring out, you

30:15

know, these human relationships and foibles and,

30:18

you know, that it's just funny. There's

30:20

a lot of it that's very funny.

30:22

And I just want to say a

30:25

side thing, playing this character of Shamraev

30:27

was kind of a challenge for me

30:29

because I quickly discovered that half of

30:32

his lines are Russian names. Yes, you

30:34

felt our pain when we were trying

30:36

to get that question. Oh, this guy

30:39

does, you know, because he's like, and

30:41

what do you know, the Segovsky and

30:43

this and that, and so and so's

30:45

performance. No, the fun thing about that

30:48

was though, if you got it wrong,

30:50

like who was going to call you?

30:52

Yeah. Carlos I know that as an

30:55

actor of you worked with some really

30:57

notable folks in your history Tell us

30:59

about some of the cool things you

31:02

have coming out. I worked on a

31:04

film with Keanu Reeves Directed by Jonah

31:06

Hill You know which was a bit

31:09

of a reunion for me in Keanu

31:11

because I worked over 30 years ago

31:13

with Keanu on speed Never heard of

31:16

it. Did you have the cling-on makeup

31:18

on that? I think I wouldn't remember

31:20

That's how I got the roll. I

31:23

walked in with the teeth, the clang

31:25

on teeth. I can drive that bus!

31:27

Ah, yes. You know, stop at that

31:30

bus. You were one of the passengers

31:32

trapped on the bus with Kiano, and

31:34

indeed we did shoot it on a

31:36

bus for two months, for two months,

31:39

trapped in a bus, and indeed we

31:41

did shoot it on a bus for

31:43

two months, trapped in this bus, and

31:46

so we got to know each other.

31:48

and he's so generous. It is all

31:50

true. He is a great guy. He's

31:53

a very simple humble person and it

31:55

was great to see him. happens to

31:57

be Canadian. We know you were waiting

32:00

to sneak that one in. We know

32:02

you were waiting to just slip that

32:04

in. James I know you recently appeared

32:07

on FBI on CBS and irrational on

32:09

NBC. Do you know what's next for

32:11

you yet? No I'm just recovering from

32:14

being tackled by you guys. Doing this

32:16

theater was super fine and I'm gonna

32:18

look for my next project. Excellent. Well

32:20

we'll look forward to that. It's gonna

32:23

be with Betsy Brand. We're gonna do

32:25

the bear by check-off. Wow! And the

32:27

wedding, we could do, like, we could

32:30

do in rap. Did it just make

32:32

me a producer? Yes, yes, you'll get

32:34

a credit. Well, let's get to the

32:37

reason we brought you both here as

32:39

far as our game is concerned. You

32:41

heard the question that we asked of

32:44

Betsy. First, we wanted to know what

32:46

Russian theater star known for his acting

32:48

method starred as Tregoran in a certain

32:51

play that was recently produced here in

32:53

Los Angeles. Helen, triumphantly raising her arms.

32:55

Next, we wanted to know at what

32:58

Westside Los Angeles Theater established in 1969

33:00

was an acclaimed run of the play

33:02

very recently completed. Helen, what did Betsy

33:04

say? Betsy said the Geffen. And James?

33:07

It was the Odyssey Theater. The Odyssey

33:09

Theater over there in the West Side.

33:11

Yes, no point there for Betsy, but

33:14

a nice round of applause for the

33:16

Odyssey. Thank you. They do great work.

33:18

Yes. And finally, we're under, what is

33:21

this play by Anton Shackoff, Helen, Helen,

33:23

what did Betsy? Betsy, well

33:25

we have our experts here, anything

33:27

you want to ask or say.

33:29

Yeah, what's my call time for

33:31

the bear? The principal herself. Oh

33:34

my gosh, I don't know, I

33:36

love it, you're both checkoff nerds

33:38

too. Okay, I have a question

33:40

for you. Where did Stanislawski, by

33:42

his meth, when he was in

33:44

Albuquerque? It's been so wonderful that

33:46

you joined us, Carlos, and James,

33:48

if people want to find out

33:50

more about you and what you're

33:52

up to, where can they're up.

33:54

Where can they do they do

33:56

you're going? Bebo, and that refers

33:58

to another film that I was

34:00

in, Popeye was named. with the

34:02

character and the film was blood

34:04

in blood out. B-I-B-I-B-O. So at

34:07

Pop I-B-B-O is Carlos on Instagram

34:09

and social media. Excellent and James?

34:11

I'm at, it's so much simpler,

34:13

Mr. M.R. James Tupper. Mr. James

34:15

Tupper. Well thank you so much

34:17

for joining us both. James Tupper

34:19

and Carlos Kerasco. Thanks for being

34:21

here. Helen

34:23

what is our story after that fun

34:25

round? That very fun round Betsy Brandt

34:27

has eight points and Sir Rock Lofton

34:30

has zero points with a round of

34:32

questions for Sirrock coming up. That's right

34:34

we're gonna talk with Sirrock about a

34:36

topic he knows about plus later Betsy

34:38

and Sirrock will go head-to-head in our

34:40

fast facts round all to find a

34:42

winner on Go Fact Yourself. Dr.

34:49

Game Show is a podcast where

34:51

we play games submitted by listeners

34:53

with colors from all around the

34:55

world, and this is a game

34:57

to get you to listen. Name

34:59

three reasons to listen to Dr.

35:01

Game Show. Kylie and Lunar from

35:03

Freedom Name. Dishes, folding the laundry,

35:05

doing cat grooming. Okay, thank you.

35:08

Great. Oh, things you could do

35:10

while listening. Yeah. I love that

35:12

the read. I'm like, why do

35:14

you listen to this show? And

35:16

Lunar's like dishes. Fantastic! Manolo! Number

35:18

one is that it will inspire

35:20

you. You're gonna be like, oh,

35:22

I could do that. That's all

35:25

we have time for, but you'll

35:27

just have to find Dr. Game

35:29

Show and maximum fun to find

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out for yourself. All right, Soroc,

35:33

if you're many interests, you told

35:35

us that you know and love

35:37

Tupac's Macaveli album, the Kobe Bryant-era

35:39

Lakers Championships, and the Twilight Zone

35:41

original series. Let's find out a

35:44

little bit more about each of

35:46

those. First, tell us why you

35:48

know and Tupak's Macaveli album. I

35:50

think Tupak was one of the

35:52

great musicians we've ever had and

35:54

he spoke up on issues in

35:56

the world in his lyrics. Excellent.

35:58

All right, next tell us why

36:00

you know and love the Kobe

36:03

Bryant-era Lakers Championships. I mean I'm

36:05

from LA, I mean that's the

36:07

first part. Bob was a big

36:09

fan of Kobe Bryant. Yeah I

36:11

followed the Lakers closely during the

36:13

early 2000s. All right and then

36:15

finally tell us why you know

36:17

and love the Twilight Zone original

36:20

original original original original series. Because

36:22

I'm a nerd. It sounds like

36:24

you were compelled to love these

36:26

things, but I want to be

36:28

clear, you actually did invest yourself

36:30

in these things, my choice too.

36:32

Yes, yes, I did, by choice.

36:34

The black and white, the stories

36:36

were interesting. It was always trying

36:39

to figure out what's going on

36:41

here, what's going to make this

36:43

go wrong, or what am I

36:45

not seeing here? Because there's some

36:47

twist here that I'm not seeing,

36:49

I'm not figuring it out. I

36:51

would expect nothing less from a

36:53

trekke. said that you know and

36:55

love Tupac's Macaveli album, Kobe Bryant

36:58

Air Lickers Championships, and the Twilight

37:00

Zone Original Series. Today we want

37:02

to quiz you about the Kobe

37:04

Bryant Air Lickers Championships. Some fans

37:06

in the house? I think we

37:08

do. Now, there were five championships

37:10

that Kobe Bryant was a part

37:12

of. Did you have a favorite

37:15

one? The first and last are

37:17

always the best. And did you

37:19

ever get to go to any

37:21

of those games? Never during the

37:23

championship. Okay. But I did watch

37:25

them at home. Well, just ahead,

37:27

we're going to enlist them at

37:29

home. Well, just ahead, we're going

37:31

to enlist the help of a

37:34

bona fide expert in your topic.

37:36

Well, just ahead, we're going to

37:38

enlist the help of a bona

37:40

fide expert expert in your topic

37:42

in two of these five. about

37:44

the Kobe Bryant-era Lakers championships. Enough.

37:46

Okay. Yeah. You saw some things

37:48

happen. Follow Phil Jackson, yeah. Oh,

37:50

okay. All right, well let's see

37:53

if Sarac gives you that chance.

37:55

Sarac, here's question number one. In

37:57

November of 1999, Kobe Bryant and

37:59

the Lakers moved from their... home

38:01

court from Inglewood to downtown LA

38:03

and seven months later in June

38:05

of 2001 the NBA championship there.

38:07

What was this new venue named

38:10

for an office supply super store

38:12

called? That would be the Staples

38:14

Center. Ellen? That is correct. The

38:16

audience knew it right away. Sirrock

38:18

is on the board. You did

38:20

not need the hint for that

38:22

but Helen what would that hint

38:24

have been? It's not. The Office

38:26

Depot Center. No, it is the

38:29

Staples Center. Fun fact, for a

38:31

few years, a venue in Florida

38:33

was called the Office Depot Center,

38:35

home of the Florida Panthers of

38:37

the National Hockey League and the

38:39

Miami Caliente of the lingerie football

38:41

league. Okay, I am

38:43

not making that up. I really

38:46

learned something new every show. Yes,

38:48

is it how worse men can

38:50

get? I didn't need to learn

38:52

that. Here is question number two.

38:55

If you don't know this, I

38:57

think Betsy might. Kobe Bryant won

38:59

five championships during his time with

39:01

the Lakers. Who was the head

39:04

coach for all five? Well, you

39:06

just said if Phil Jackson was

39:08

the head coach. Ellen? That's correct.

39:10

That is correct with the point.

39:14

Fun fact Jackson's first year as

39:16

coach of the Lakers was also

39:19

Kobe Bryant's first year But Jackson

39:21

ended up leaving reportedly at Kobe's

39:23

request the next season without Jackson

39:26

the Lakers missed the playoffs for

39:28

the first time in 11 seasons

39:31

Jackson then came back and the

39:33

championships rolled in All right, you're

39:35

two for two Sirak. Here's question

39:38

number three to win championships. The

39:40

Lakers had to win several best

39:42

of seven playoff series Some opponents

39:45

of the Lakers got swept in

39:47

four games and some tuft it

39:49

out to lose in seven But

39:52

during Kobe's championship seasons, which one

39:54

of the following teams did not

39:56

lose a playoff series to the

39:59

Lakers in seven games? Was it

40:01

the Rockets, the Celtics, the Spurs,

40:03

the Trailblazers, or the Kings? I'm

40:06

going to go with the... Celtics.

40:08

Helen? That is not correct. No,

40:10

I'm terribly sorry. Betsy with a

40:13

chance to steal. Oh, steal. I

40:15

love a good steal. Trailblazers. Helen?

40:17

That is not correct. No, I'm

40:20

sorry. No point to either of

40:22

you. The Lakers beat the Trailblazers

40:24

in seven games in 2000, the

40:27

Kings in 2002, the Rockets in

40:29

2009, and the Celtics in the

40:31

finals in 2010. The Lakers beat

40:34

the Spurs in just four games

40:36

in 2001, and in five games

40:38

in 2002. The Spurs. The Spurs.

40:41

No point there for either of

40:43

you, but let's see if you

40:45

can bounce back. The question for,

40:48

Sir Rock. You do have your

40:50

hints available your hints available. Western

40:52

Conference finals against the Kings, shooting

40:55

just 42.9% from the field. But

40:57

then again, he also was recovering

40:59

from food poisoning, which he believes

41:02

he got from eating, what kind

41:04

of sandwich the night before? I'll

41:06

take a hint on that one.

41:09

You know, basketball. So Rock is

41:11

making a face like he just

41:13

ate something bad. Okay. If you

41:16

don't eat beef? pork or dairy,

41:18

you definitely should not order one

41:20

of these from McDonald's. A Bacon

41:23

cheeseburger? Helen? That is correct. That

41:25

is correct. You got it. All

41:27

right. Fun fact, Brian had ordered

41:30

that bacon cheeseburger and cheesecake from

41:32

room service of the Sacramento Hyatt

41:34

upon Kobe's retirement. The Sacramento Kings

41:37

tweeted a picture of a bacon

41:39

cheeseburger. Because they're classy. All right,

41:41

here's question number five. Kobe Bryant

41:44

had some incredible teammates for the

41:46

Lakers championships, but only one player

41:48

also won five rings with Kobe.

41:51

That would be Derek Fisher. According

41:53

to Real GM, how many playoff

41:55

games did Fisher and Bryant play

41:58

in together? And we'll give it

42:00

to you within 20. They won

42:03

five rings together. I will ask

42:05

for the hit. Helen, how about

42:07

that second? When Derek Fisher retired

42:10

he held the NBA record for

42:12

most playoff games played with two

42:14

hundred and fifty nine But he

42:17

played several seasons without Kobe and

42:19

the Lakers I got a 20

42:21

point margin. I'm gonna go with

42:24

190 Helen that is exactly correct

42:27

You just hit it right in

42:29

the bullsey. Helen, do you want

42:31

to give them an extra half

42:33

point? I think I do actually.

42:35

I'm not a foreign person. All

42:37

right. Yes. I'll take it. Fun

42:39

fact, next most after Fisher's 190

42:41

with Kobe is Shacks 119. Although

42:43

Shack leads Fisher in commercial endorsements,

42:45

though it's hard to imagine anyone

42:47

else doing commercials for Shack Cream

42:49

Soda, The Shack Foo Video Game,

42:51

or Shackeroni and Meatballs, all real

42:53

products that Shack has endorsed. All

42:55

right, Sorac, you ended up doing

42:57

quite well in that round and

42:59

now here is your expert level

43:01

question that requires multiple answers. It

43:03

is time for your cluster fact.

43:06

We'll be bringing on an expert to

43:08

discuss your response. Sirak, in 2009, Ron

43:11

Artast joined the Lakers and helped to

43:13

propel them to that season's championship. He

43:15

remained with the team for four years,

43:17

but they were eventful years filled with

43:19

changes. For up to three points, what

43:21

uniform number did our test change to

43:23

when he joined the Lakers? Next, who

43:25

was the pop music star also known

43:27

for his changes that inspired that new

43:30

uniform number? And what did our test

43:32

change his name to during his tenure

43:34

with the Lakers. The number is nine.

43:36

Okay. The Michael Jackson is the pop

43:38

star. All right. And Meadow World Peace

43:40

is the name change. All right. Helen

43:42

is taking note of those answers. We

43:44

have an expert on handing can tell

43:47

us for sure. Helen, who do we

43:49

have tonight? Joining us tonight is a

43:51

17 season veteran of the NBA. Kobe

43:53

Bryant and the Lakers. It's Meadow World

43:55

Peace! Oh my God! NBA champion in

43:57

the house! Oh my God! Lakers icon

43:59

in the house! Everyone is freaking out!

44:01

We're all freaking out! We're all freaking

44:03

out! We're all freaking out! We're gonna

44:06

ask him about check off, please! Madam,

44:08

what an honor and a joy! It's

44:10

good to hear. Well my goodness, you

44:12

have been an NBA all-star, an NBA

44:14

defensive player of the year, a first

44:16

team all-defense team member, a recipient of

44:18

the Jay Walter Kennedy Citizenship of the

44:20

Year Award, and 2010 World Champion with

44:22

the Los Angeles Lakers. You played on

44:25

several teams, other than the championship that

44:27

you were able to win with the

44:29

Lakers. I'm curious, what was different about

44:31

playing in Los Angeles than other places

44:33

that you played? Playing with Kobe and

44:35

then Phil Jackson, that kind of stood

44:37

out. Yeah, I would imagine. It was

44:39

a different level of focus and uh...

44:41

All they were thinking about was a

44:44

championship, which was right up my alley.

44:46

Right up your alley, you enjoyed winning.

44:48

Absolutely. Yeah, yeah. Well, I know it

44:50

was something that you'd wanted for a

44:52

long time, so when you finally won,

44:54

what does it feel like to win

44:56

an NBA championship? Believe it or not,

44:58

I have not. Yeah, it's hard to

45:00

believe, actually. Oh, bless you are. I

45:03

do have a pretty good hook. Me,

45:05

I won a championship. So I said,

45:07

you know, you know, I'm going to

45:09

know, I'm going to win multiple, I'm

45:11

going to win multiple, multiple, and I'm

45:13

going to that multiple, and I'm going

45:15

to that, and I'm going to, and

45:17

I'm going to, and I'm going to,

45:19

I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm

45:22

going to, I'm going to, I'm going

45:24

to, I'm going to, I'm going to,

45:26

I'm going to, And you're like, wow,

45:28

I went to Lakers and I have

45:30

a shot. Yeah. When we finally won

45:32

it, I was really happy that I

45:34

got won. You were known for being

45:36

an advocate for mental health. And in

45:38

fact, on a TV interview right after

45:41

you won the championship, you think your

45:43

therapist, which I thought was just so

45:45

lovely. Some people made fun of it

45:47

at the time, but it really helped

45:49

to make mental health for athletes less

45:51

of a stigma, I think it's fair

45:53

to say. be for everyone else. And

45:55

therapists, you know, thinking me and they

45:57

said their clientele is going up and

46:00

people are more, you know, open to

46:02

talking about their feelings and now in

46:04

the NBA and they have a therapist

46:06

on each team. They didn't have that.

46:08

Wow. You helped implement that change. Absolutely.

46:10

That's really great. Well, you mentioned your

46:12

therapist by name on national TV. We

46:14

won the championship. What was your next

46:16

therapy session like? You know, she called

46:19

me and she said, by the way,

46:21

I'm not a psychiatrist. I'm your psychologist.

46:23

I'm your psychologist. I said, oh, I

46:25

didn't know that. What a lesson. And

46:27

then she was like, you know what,

46:29

this session is on a house after

46:31

that. Her client went up. Well, let's

46:33

talk a little bit about playing with

46:36

Kobe Bryant. You actually got to play

46:38

with him years before either of you

46:40

were in the NBA. I played against

46:42

Kobe when he was 15. And they

46:44

were calling him the next Grand Hill.

46:46

In 1995 96 and he had about

46:48

40 that day and Then I didn't

46:50

play against him again until the NBA.

46:52

Oh, wow until then well, it's interesting

46:55

because you had this great friendship But

46:57

what was it like facing him as

46:59

an opponent? Was it friendly because there

47:01

were times where it was it like

47:03

facing him as an opponent? Was it

47:05

friendly? Because there were times where it

47:07

seems like you two were really getting

47:09

into it Yeah, we did because you

47:11

know he was the best offensive player

47:14

and it was Kobe He ultimately got

47:16

the best of it, but I did

47:18

try my best. You did try your

47:20

best. You did very well. I saw

47:22

you saying the interview regarding Kobe. You

47:24

said he taught me to focus on

47:26

the game. Yes. Tell us more about

47:28

that because it seemed like after 10

47:30

years you would already be pretty focused.

47:33

Oh yeah, I definitely had other things

47:35

in my mind like entertainment and okay.

47:37

But Kobe, he was like, hey, we're

47:39

here to win. and I need you

47:41

to lock in and you know bring

47:43

that runner test style of play and

47:45

it was a different experience because I

47:47

was always the best of my team

47:49

I always had the biggest energy you

47:52

know I was always the most dominant

47:54

figure and then on this team Kobe

47:56

was I had to become a really

47:58

good role play which is not what

48:00

I do, I was typically the go-to

48:02

guy. He helped me in many ways.

48:04

Did your therapist also help you with

48:06

that? Oh yes. Definitely, I thanked her

48:08

after. Let's talk about your philanthropy because

48:11

it is something you're known for. I

48:13

see you're wearing a hat that says

48:15

our test foundation and 37 partners on

48:17

your hoodie there. Not number nine. There

48:19

it is. We'll get to that. Tell

48:21

us about the philanthropic work that you're

48:23

doing. So I was giving about 10

48:25

scholarships away a year. to high schools.

48:27

So I created a 501c3 in 2007.

48:30

It was called Excel University, because I

48:32

figured I was sending so many people

48:34

to school, I might as well be

48:36

at college. So I named it Excel

48:38

University and changed it to Art Test

48:40

University. So you can go to Art

48:42

Test university.com right now, you'll see the

48:44

courses that we have now, and we're

48:46

just trying to build it. Eight years

48:49

of Hammer and Dales, but you know,

48:51

we're on our way. You're under way,

48:53

that's wonderful. Yeah. Lastly, I

48:55

want to ask you about among the

48:57

many amazing things you've done, you were

48:59

on Celebrity Big Brother. My fiancé happens

49:01

to work on that show and was

49:03

working on it at the time and

49:05

I asked her, what did people say

49:07

about Metal World Peace? And she said,

49:09

no other celebrity in the history of

49:11

the show was more comfortable being naked

49:14

on camera. It was so stressful being

49:16

in it, but it was fun. We

49:18

made a lot of great friends. Yeah.

49:20

But everybody's backstabbs. And so the key

49:22

to the Big Brother Big Brother's Backstep.

49:24

Backstabbed, yes. I'll be your friend, but

49:26

I'm going to backstab you at some

49:28

point in time. Yeah. Well, thankfully there's

49:30

none of that in business. All right,

49:32

well, let's get to the reason we

49:34

brought you here as far as our

49:36

game is concerned. You heard the questions

49:38

that we asked, Sir Rock. First, we

49:40

wanted to know what uniform did Ron

49:42

Artest, known at that time, changed, and

49:44

changed, when he joined the questions that

49:46

we asked, Sir Rock. First, we wanted

49:48

to know, what pop music star inspired

49:50

that new... uniform number Helen what did

49:53

Sirox say? Sirox said Michael Jackson. And

49:55

meta? And that's correct. That's correct. You're

49:57

good for a point. Tell

50:00

us about that. Well, you know Michael died

50:02

in 2009 and I said, you know, I'm

50:04

gonna do something special and I was going

50:06

into my new liquor season too So I

50:09

said I want to do something great when

50:11

you see the three it looks like a

50:13

m in a seven. It's his little dance

50:15

move So when I signed my 37 I

50:17

would sign my three like an m the

50:19

seven like a j and then the j

50:22

was like his leg, you know, you know,

50:24

his little dance movie does so I put

50:26

a lot of thought into 37 into 37.

50:28

That's really great into 37. That's really great

50:30

into 37. Very And then finally we wanted

50:32

to know, Sarak, what did that person known

50:35

as Ranaartas change his name to during his

50:37

tenure with the Lakers? Helen, what did Sarak

50:39

say? Sarak said, Meadow World Peace. And? He

50:41

is correct. He is correct for another point.

50:43

For those weren't familiar, can you tell us

50:45

about what that name change meant to you?

50:48

I always wanted to change my name when

50:50

Chad Ochosinko did it. I was like, wow,

50:52

that's pretty cool. But when I got what

50:54

Phil, you know, you know, you know, you

50:56

know, you know, you know, you know, Then

50:58

I was like, okay, met as good. World

51:01

Peace is like, it hit me right away.

51:03

Yeah. Yeah, because a lot of things are

51:05

going on in the world at that time.

51:07

And it was kind of weird for me.

51:09

I almost wanted to change it back after.

51:11

And then they say, enter into the game,

51:14

met a world peace. And I say, you

51:16

stupid idiot. But you've come to like it

51:18

then? Yeah. But does your therapist like it?

51:20

Yeah. So Rock, is there anything you'd like

51:22

to say or ask of Metal World Peace?

51:24

Well, first of all, I want to say

51:27

thank you for that championship that you brought

51:29

home to Los Angeles. Yeah. You had a

51:31

big three when it mattered. I remember watching

51:33

that three go in. And to see the

51:35

work that you're doing with the foundation and

51:37

giving back and going back to school, man,

51:39

that's all amazing stuff. And I'm glad for

51:42

you, man. Thanks a lot. Thanks a lot.

51:44

Madam such a joy that you joined us

51:46

that people want to find out more about

51:48

you and what you're up to where can

51:50

they do that? You can find me our

51:52

test management group.com and then you can also

51:55

go to our test university.org. Excellent. Well thank

51:57

you so much for much trickulating here tonight.

51:59

Thank you. Helen

52:06

what is our score at the

52:08

end of that amazing round? Wow

52:10

at the end of that round

52:13

Betsy Brandt has eight points and

52:15

Sir Rock Lofton has six and

52:17

a half points. Oh it's gotten

52:19

a lot closer but now it

52:21

is time for our final round

52:24

we call fast facts I'll read

52:26

ten statements and each contestant will

52:28

answer it with true or false.

52:30

I'll start with Betsy and then

52:33

alternate each correct answer was worth

52:35

one point again please answer each

52:37

statement with true or false. Correct.

52:39

Betsy, when M&M's were first made,

52:42

one of the original colors was

52:44

blue. True. Incorrect. No, sorry. Surak,

52:46

one of the original colors was

52:48

tan. True. Incorrect. No, sorry. Betsy,

52:50

one of the original colors was

52:53

violet. No, false. Incorrect. No, sorry.

52:55

Surak, violet was replaced by tan.

52:57

False. No, it really was. Betsy,

52:59

tan was replaced by blue. True.

53:02

Correct. False. Correct. There you go.

53:04

Betsy, green has been a color

53:06

since M&M's were first introduced. True.

53:08

Correct. So Rock, an urban legend,

53:10

says that green M&M's are aphrodisiacs.

53:13

Yeah, true. Correct. Betsy, M&M's manufacturer

53:15

says that's false. True. Correct. And

53:17

Sorock, but it didn't stop them

53:19

from releasing an all-green M&M's bag

53:22

for Valentine's Day. True. Correct. That's

53:24

right. Let's give a nice hand.

53:26

To Sir Rock Lofton and Betsy

53:28

Brandt as Helen tabulates the final

53:31

score. By the way, how's that

53:33

for capitalism? The company states that

53:35

it cannot explain any extraordinary powers

53:37

attributed to green M&M's either scientifically

53:39

or medically, end quote. But in

53:42

2008, they did allow Valentine's Day

53:44

shoppers to try to get horny

53:46

with bags of all green M&M's.

53:48

Helen, are you ready to announce

53:51

the winner on today's program? I

53:53

am at the end of that

53:55

amazing game. Betsy Brandt has 11

53:57

points and Sir Rock Loftin has...

54:00

Congratulations Betsy France you were

54:03

the facting champion on go

54:05

fact yourself Betsy what will

54:07

you do with your championship?

54:09

Probably just lord it over to

54:11

Rock as much as I can get

54:14

some green M&Ns. I'm like, get this

54:16

party started. Yeah, we're gonna have a

54:18

cast party tonight as well. All right,

54:21

we're gonna wrap up by giving our

54:23

panel here a chance to mention

54:25

or promote anything they might like.

54:27

Betsy, where can people find you

54:29

and what you're up to? My

54:32

Instagram, you can find me there, it's

54:34

my name, and there's a picture of

54:36

me, so you know it's not someone

54:38

else. No. podcast it's a big fun

54:40

celebration. Well thank you

54:42

for celebrating with us tonight. So

54:45

Rock Lofton! Ladies and gentlemen you

54:47

are so lucky because my hosting

54:49

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54:51

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54:53

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54:59

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55:01

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55:03

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55:05

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55:25

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55:27

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