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to be bathtub daddy. I

3:35

think I saw something recently about how

3:38

the number one earner on only fans

3:40

made 43 million dollars last year. Yeah,

3:42

I mean, I keep, I keep, I

3:44

keep, obviously I didn't become bathtub daddy,

3:47

but the money is just unbelievable. Yeah,

3:49

there's unbelievable what people pay people to

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do stuff on the internet. Close my

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3:56

listen, we're not gonna have jobs after

3:58

Friday, so you better get in the

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damn tub and start to figure this

4:02

out. All right, we're gonna start monetizing.

4:05

That's all I'm saying. So we will

4:07

see. Speaking God of the sexualization of

4:09

my father online. I'm pretty confident that

4:11

we'll be working soon after that I

4:14

don't have to throw myself into a

4:16

bathtub and film it. I don't know.

4:18

Hey man, I'm just saying it never

4:20

hurts to diversify the portfolio. Yeah. That's

4:23

all I'm saying. So we will see.

4:25

Speaking God of the sexualization of my

4:27

father online. L. Duncan's going to join

4:29

us in about 15 minutes. Yes, Jesse,

4:32

L. Duncan, one of the first adopters

4:34

of the term Zaddy in reference to

4:36

my father, L. Duncan, Katie Nolan, Mena

4:38

Kimes, all people I thought were my

4:41

friends at ESPN who turned around in

4:43

the midst of the pandemic and immediately

4:45

weaponized my dad's new gray beard against

4:47

me and used it to torment me.

4:50

L. Duncan is going to join us

4:52

part of the big three covering women's

4:54

college hoops at ESPN. to break down

4:56

that tournament. I mean, what can I

4:58

say? I mean, your friends have good

5:01

taste. It's all I can say, right?

5:03

Yeah. I'm sure your mother would give

5:05

a different story. Yes. I would agree.

5:07

So that being the only opinion that

5:10

matters in your life is the one

5:12

that we will take to the bank.

5:14

Love you mom and I will have

5:16

your back here when no one else

5:19

will. So excited to talk to Elle

5:21

as we mentioned a ton going on

5:23

in the women's tournament so we'll get

5:25

all caught up with her and re-wrack

5:28

this for the Sweet 16 there. Dad

5:30

and the NBA side which we didn't

5:32

get to in the first hour just

5:34

because all the women's college hoops and

5:37

the... And by the way, Bailey's mock

5:39

draft 3.0, going to be coming your

5:41

way at the end of this segment,

5:43

he will be drafting for the New

5:46

England Patriots here. But Jesse, the sort

5:48

of twin flames in the NBA that

5:50

we've got going on right now, the

5:52

Lakers and the Mabs, inextricably linked because

5:55

of the Lukadonchitz trade. both in action

5:57

last night, both dealing with star players

5:59

coming back off injury, LeBron James in

6:01

game number two, back from dealing with

6:04

that groin strain, Anthony Davis back from

6:06

that abdominal strain, both on the court

6:08

and very different results for both teams

6:10

right now that are fighting for their

6:13

own playoff lives in different ways. Yeah,

6:15

let's talk about LA. So on Monday,

6:17

they lost 118 to 106 to the

6:19

magic. Now this dropped them to three

6:22

and seven in their past 10 games

6:24

with the average margin of defeat in

6:26

those contests. into the double digits, 15.7

6:28

points to be exact. Now, Donchitch scored

6:30

21 points in the first two quarters,

6:33

only 11 after half-time. LeBron James, like

6:35

you said, back from injury, looked better

6:37

than he did Saturday playing in that

6:39

first game because of the decorate injury,

6:42

like you mentioned. So Lakers are number

6:44

four in the West right now. Only

6:46

three games up on the number seven

6:48

clippers who occupy the tournaments playing spot.

6:51

So we had really high hopes for

6:53

LA here after all of the. trade

6:55

stuff went down but are they kind

6:57

of like not who we thought they

7:00

were fellas? Dad I just think it's

7:02

it's tough when LeBron is back but

7:04

clearly still not all the way back

7:06

you see he's kind of taking care

7:09

of himself in terms of what he's

7:11

going to put that groin through before

7:13

they really need it, but this was

7:15

a team that had made their mark

7:18

in the back half of the season

7:20

since the Lukadonchich trade with incredible effort

7:22

on defense. Jay, Redick has said there's

7:24

no secret to success in this league.

7:27

It's going out and it's giving great

7:29

effort and energy and I think with

7:31

a team that is at least in

7:33

part anchored by an older veteran player,

7:36

having that effort go too hard for

7:38

too hard for too long during the

7:40

regular season is always going to be

7:42

a tough task. seeing a little bit

7:45

of that gas run out here while

7:47

they get LeBron back. into the lineup.

7:49

Yeah we saw LeBron playing a ton

7:51

of minutes early on playing a ton

7:54

of games early on and really taking

7:56

its toll but but for the Lakers

7:58

I mean you know this current four-game

8:00

road trip that they're on and even

8:02

before that when they lost to Chicago

8:05

I mean you look we talk about

8:07

it in football all the time you

8:09

and I as as as analysts at

8:11

games how important the third quarter is

8:14

what adjustments you make at halftime and

8:16

how you come out in the third

8:18

quarter. Well, when they lost to Chicago

8:20

over the weekend, the third quarter, Chicago

8:23

scored 39 points. Orlando, when they lost

8:25

to Orlando, Orlando scored 34 points, all

8:27

in the third quarter. So that's not,

8:29

for some reason, coach, player, whatever, just

8:32

not coming out prepared or give the

8:34

other team more credit for coming out

8:36

more prepared to start the second half.

8:38

They have seven games left on the

8:41

road due to the Lakers. They have

8:43

three back-to-back sets still left on the

8:45

schedule. So it's, it's, and they were

8:47

number two in the conference. You knew

8:50

they'd fall some without LeBron, but it's

8:52

close. I mean, they're a game out

8:54

of third where Denver is, but again,

8:56

as Jesse mentioned, they're three games away

8:59

from the Clippers who are in seventh

9:01

outside, you know, in the play in

9:03

the playing area. And so it's going

9:05

to be interesting where this ends up.

9:08

As the Mavericks says, we'll talk about

9:10

them are fighting to get into the

9:12

play and they sit in the 11th,

9:14

tied with Phoenix for the 10th spot

9:17

right now. But for the Lakers, we

9:19

talked about it. When LeBron went out,

9:21

how far would they drop in the

9:23

conference? And it didn't matter as long

9:26

as LeBron was healthy. But let's see

9:28

how they finished with this road trip

9:30

that they're on and the back-to-backss that

9:32

they have left. Yeah, I think Jay

9:34

Jay Redick kind of said the quiet

9:37

part out loud a while back when

9:39

he talked I think it was reported

9:41

that they talked about their goal is

9:43

to make sure that they avoid the

9:46

plan to get that extra week of

9:48

rest. And I think it's an acknowledgement

9:50

that coming out of the gate, a

9:52

team saw a surge with Lukadonjic, but

9:55

especially once that LeBron James injury took

9:57

hold, that and his health became the

9:59

thing in the foreground for them and

10:01

seating outside of just avoiding the playing

10:04

the playing tournament, got to kind of

10:06

put in the back burner. So I

10:08

still think they'll be able to avoid

10:10

that dad as LeBron James gets weaned

10:13

back into the lineup here provided they

10:15

can keep his health in the right

10:17

place. The Mavericks are a really interesting

10:19

one on the other side, Dad. Like

10:22

we may actually be getting closer to

10:24

that Mavericks Lakers matchup that we all

10:26

want to see, because when Anthony Davis

10:28

coming back, remember, it was not too

10:31

long ago that Bobby Marks over at

10:33

ESPN was floating that game yesterday against

10:35

the Brooklyn Nets. as the one where

10:37

the Mabs may have to forfeit because

10:40

they were going to be out of

10:42

players. Thankfully, Anthony Davis coming back from

10:44

being injured kind of helped stave that

10:46

off. And instead of that conversation, we

10:49

get to have one about what the

10:51

Mabs role in the play in might

10:53

look like. And that really, Dad, is

10:55

less about them being able to win

10:58

anything on the high end and more,

11:00

A, good to see Anthony Davis back

11:02

out there, got back into the lineup,

11:04

had 12 points in that one, wasn't

11:06

an earth shattering effort, but now they

11:09

are in that basically a tie with

11:11

Phoenix and Sacramento for the last two

11:13

spots available. And it's a narrow gap

11:15

at the bottom of the Western Conference

11:18

playing tournament. They technically, I think I

11:20

saw courtesy of Tom Ziller, have the

11:22

narrowly the easiest schedule remaining among Phoenix

11:24

Sacramento and the Dallas Mavericks. So they've

11:27

got a good opportunity here and Anthony

11:29

Davis coming back, no doubt makes it

11:31

a better one. Yeah, even though it's

11:33

like Anthony Davis and the Pips, I

11:36

mean, he's got no one he's playing

11:38

with. Everybody is injured. They've won two

11:40

in a row, but Phoenix, who's in

11:42

the 10th slot right now, they've won

11:45

four in a row. They just beat

11:47

Milwaukee, who's sitting in the dropped at

11:49

a five slot in the east. And

11:51

so Phoenix got a big win, as

11:54

I said, they've won four in a

11:56

row, and you're right. It's Dallas, it's

11:58

Phoenix, Phoenix, and Sacramento, fighting for 9-10

12:00

and then the odd team is going

12:03

to be out of the playoffs. But

12:05

I'm surprised AD came back. I thought

12:07

they would have kind of, once Kiree

12:09

went out, they've had other injuries as

12:12

well, I thought they would just let

12:14

AD rest and come back strong, kind

12:16

of like they're doing in Philadelphia with

12:18

MBED, just rested up. Now, AD wasn't

12:21

hurt as bad as MBED, but. I'm

12:23

surprised they brought him back in all

12:25

honesty. There's 11 games to go. They

12:27

have a shot at the playoffs. So

12:30

we'll see. It is interesting and dead

12:32

this kind of leads into a larger

12:34

conversation. I saw Tim Bontem to the

12:36

SPM put an article out yesterday about

12:39

how the blatant tanking that we're gonna

12:41

see down this home stretch of the

12:43

season could really hit a fever pitch

12:45

and. It's something that the NBA has

12:47

tried to fight in different ways. They've

12:50

changed the odds and the draft lottery.

12:52

Adam Silver instituting the play-in tournament that

12:54

we're talking about. So you get some

12:56

teams that are closer to the bottom

12:59

incentivized with a playoff opportunity to try

13:01

and work harder down the home stretch

13:03

of the season. But especially in a

13:05

year dad where it feels like we

13:08

got one of those guys in Cooper

13:10

Flag that people are really going to

13:12

be bending over backwards to try and

13:14

get in this year's draft. It does

13:17

for a lot of teams at the

13:19

bottom present this difficult math problem of

13:21

hey. Having a chance to go and

13:23

be the 10-seat in the play-in, or

13:26

getting closer to the bottom and maybe

13:28

lucking your way into the draft lottery

13:30

to a player that seems like a

13:32

legitimate franchise player in Cooper Flag, it's

13:35

pretty difficult dad. They did the Math

13:37

Tim Bonneps in this article just about

13:39

why the draft lottery is something that

13:41

so many teams covered in such a

13:44

way. Over the last 45 years... Only

13:46

five NBA champions were led by a

13:48

player that was taken outside of the

13:50

top seven spots in the draft. So

13:53

I know at times we sort of

13:55

bash on the star system in college

13:57

football or any of the number of

13:59

these different things, but... In the NBA,

14:02

where we always talk about the math

14:04

on the floor, says these players are

14:06

inherently more valuable, having one of the

14:08

guys that's one of the great players

14:11

in the top of this draft has

14:13

been a prerequisite for being a team

14:15

that gets to hold the trophy when

14:17

it's all said and done. And Cooper

14:19

flagged by all accounts, dad, especially when

14:22

you factor in his age. Remember, he

14:24

reclassified his senior year of high school,

14:26

so he's just turning 19 this year.

14:28

Excuse me, he would be the second

14:31

youngest player at the time they were

14:33

drafted number one behind only LeBron James

14:35

going back for a while. So it

14:37

does present a unique opportunity and problem

14:40

for these NBA teams because of what

14:42

he is as a prospect. Yeah, again,

14:44

how it works. Three teams with the

14:46

worst record receive a 14% chance of

14:49

landing the top pick. Those odds obviously

14:51

slide down the better the team that

14:53

you are. And what's happening is, you

14:55

know, the league's cracking down on playing

14:58

star players. Utah got popped for 100,000

15:00

for not making a lower marketing available

15:02

for a game and other games as

15:04

well. So what teams are doing is

15:07

they're playing their better players, but they're

15:09

sitting them in the fourth quarter. So

15:11

you basically have like rookies and two-way

15:13

players playing the bad teams, are having

15:16

rookies and two-way players playing the fourth

15:18

quarter when the game's on the line.

15:20

So they've adhered to the NBA rules

15:22

of playing their better players. But they're

15:25

sitting there better players in the fourth

15:27

quarter when the game's on the line.

15:29

And the lead can't step in and

15:31

do anything about that. They can't mess

15:34

with the team's rotation if they had

15:36

played their best player in the game.

15:38

They can't say you gotta play them

15:40

in the fourth quarter. So that's a

15:43

way around it. You know, the teams

15:45

have found a loophole to still suck,

15:47

you know, and go for that pick.

15:49

So you wonder if there are rule

15:51

changes that can be available to change

15:54

this and make all teams be competitive

15:56

toward the end of the season. And

15:58

the short answer for me is it's

16:00

not possible. not while you incentivize in

16:03

the draft the worst teams getting the

16:05

best players. Unless you want to change

16:07

the draft structure overall and Tim Bontebs

16:09

offers up a number of different solutions

16:12

including flattening the odds even more, counting

16:14

wins as losses after the all-star break,

16:16

reworking pick protections which might actually get

16:18

the closest to overall reworking the draft

16:21

order here. But dad all these are

16:23

putting lipstick on a pig dad I

16:25

think to your point. When the best

16:27

player is still a reward like that,

16:30

these teams are going to find creative

16:32

ways to what is still the quickest

16:34

solution to going from bad to good,

16:36

which is getting a great player at

16:39

the top of the draft. Getting rid

16:41

of the protected picks would certainly help,

16:43

where there's a ton of that going

16:45

on. But also, counting wins instead of

16:48

losses after the all-star break. That to

16:50

me when I read that was very

16:52

interesting, so after the all-star break, you

16:54

count the wins. And the more wins

16:57

you have, if you're a lottery team,

16:59

the better chance you'll get to get

17:01

the top draft pick. That one was

17:03

interesting to me. It's a fun solution.

17:06

It's one that I think is too

17:08

fun for the NBA to actually give

17:10

us. That's a lebitard solution. I don't

17:12

know if that's an Adam Silver solution.

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18:20

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18:22

couple of minutes here. Shame on me

18:24

as we got fully engrossed in NBA

18:26

talk in the last segment that I

18:29

did not pay off our promise to

18:31

you guys to have a mock draft

18:33

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18:35

3.0 just dropped before we get to

18:38

El Duncan here. Bailey took control of

18:40

the Patriots. Big news for Notre Dame

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fans. Riley Leonard went third overall to

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the New York Giants. Which is, I

18:47

love that for Ry really. feels a

18:49

little bit rich but we'll go on

18:51

here. Bailey drafted for the Patriots here

18:53

who unsurprisingly then picked up Travis Hunter

18:55

and Abdul Carter. I shudder to look

18:58

at the package that includes what looks

19:00

like double-digit picks that got him there.

19:02

So again, Bailey doing what he has

19:04

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19:07

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19:09

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19:11

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19:18

El Duncan who again you can. check

19:20

out doing a great job covering women's

19:22

college hoops alongside Andrea Carter and Geneva

19:25

Kay. Although, Elle I gotta say, they

19:27

did you so dirty. yesterday on that

19:29

show. Elle, you effortlessly weaved in coming

19:31

to America into the show and got

19:34

firmly tossed under the bus by your

19:36

co-host. What the hell? I feel like,

19:38

honestly, like. I told Dreya because I

19:40

know they're young and there's a lot

19:43

of cultural references music like stuff like

19:45

that I'm in my 40s that they

19:47

don't understand but it feels like especially

19:49

in the black community coming to America

19:52

is just one of those things that

19:54

is just instilled with you from birth

19:56

and so I looked at Dreya before

19:58

I did and I was like I

20:01

got a reference for you but I

20:03

think you're gonna get it she's like

20:05

well I do it's just I mean,

20:07

the name is different. I was like,

20:10

it's not about the name. Any time

20:12

someone has a last name that ends

20:14

with son, if you do it, then

20:16

everybody gets the reference. It was, I

20:19

guess, stunned. Absolutely stunned. I mean, listen,

20:21

they're not that young. I mean this

20:23

is this is a classic now this

20:25

movie again was was what made in

20:27

1988 I think but still it is

20:30

it is certainly survived over time I

20:32

was amazed that shame on them 100%

20:34

I like they are I told them

20:36

I was like you all are the

20:39

like the best basketball minds I know

20:41

I mean they're brilliant I was like

20:43

but when it comes to things that

20:45

happened before you were born y'all don't

20:48

know Like you don't, I just don't,

20:50

I don't understand, and like that's always

20:52

an excuse for young people, they'll be

20:54

like, well that was before I was

20:57

born. I'm like, and Sam Cook is

20:59

one of my favorite artists. He died

21:01

25 years before I was born, doesn't

21:03

mean anything. You should know your classics

21:06

and coming to America is the most

21:08

quotable movie of all time, of all

21:10

time. Thank you for your support of

21:12

text. I mean, I was getting, I

21:15

was getting texts and tweets from all

21:17

of us old washed people that were

21:19

like, I got your reference, I got

21:21

your back girl. So I appreciate that.

21:24

I know I'm a little bit walked,

21:26

but that just felt so out of

21:28

pocket to me. No, no. If there's

21:30

a world where people aren't readily available

21:33

to catch a Randy Watson reference, or

21:35

if someone doesn't know immediately what you're

21:37

talking about, when you bring up the

21:39

what's going down episode of that's my

21:42

mama, I don't want to live in

21:44

that world. I don't want to be

21:46

in that world. So. Elle, we're going

21:48

to rock with you on that one

21:51

firmly there. Thank you for standing tall

21:53

for those of us that appreciate the

21:55

classics here. Let's talk a little bit

21:57

about the basketball that your two co-host

22:00

could actually understand yesterday. Got to start

22:02

with the news the day. Unfortunately, the

22:04

Juju Watkins ACL injury, it really felt

22:06

like it popped the balloon a little

22:08

bit. What was the feeling in the

22:11

mood like for you guys in studio

22:13

as you're taking in this unfortunate moment

22:15

for one of the game's brightest stars?

22:17

No, you're right. It didn't pop the

22:20

balloon a little bit. It can completely

22:22

change the tenor of the entire tournament.

22:24

So full disclosure not to be TMI,

22:26

I was in the bathroom because I

22:29

mean, you know, we do have to

22:31

pee. And I can hear, you know,

22:33

in my IFP, like I can hear

22:35

the game broadcast. And all of a

22:38

sudden, the game just gets completely silent.

22:40

So I'm like, what? Like, did I

22:42

lose the feed? Did the feed go

22:44

down? You know, so I'm like washing

22:47

my hands. And then I start getting

22:49

text messages from the bathroom, right? Like,

22:51

from producers that we're like, we need

22:53

you back in studio. It's bad. And

22:56

I walk into the studio. And you

22:58

know, we're a pretty joyful bunch. Like,

23:00

we start getting a little koo-koo crazy.

23:02

We've been in there. you could hear

23:05

a pin drop. I mean, like, the

23:07

air was sucked out of the room,

23:09

and it was the same thing at

23:11

the Galen Center. It was like, it

23:14

was just this realization. Nobody wanted to

23:16

speculate, obviously, at the time we didn't

23:18

know that it was a torn ACL.

23:20

But Ju Walkins is as tough as

23:23

they come, and everybody knows. She's also

23:25

famously, very unemotional. Like, she puts up

23:27

a 30-piece, no emotions. Like, like, she

23:29

is to see. her writhing and pain

23:32

to see her screaming. You know, we

23:34

had people that were there. I talked

23:36

to Clinton Yates and he was like,

23:38

I was sitting sideline right in front

23:40

of it when it happened. And it's

23:43

just the echoes of her screaming throughout

23:45

the arena. It was just, it was

23:47

very tough to watch. It was, we

23:49

asked the ESPN to not show the

23:52

injury and also not show her writhing

23:54

in pain because in these moments, I

23:56

just don't, I don't think it's appropriate.

23:58

So we asked them to just sort

24:01

of pick it up at them carrying

24:03

her off of the court so that

24:05

the fans that weren't watching the game

24:07

would sort of understood what happened but

24:10

it was just this realization that that

24:12

the tournament was going to be different

24:14

and that for this other worldly talent

24:16

part of her story was now going

24:19

to have to be a comeback story

24:21

and it is incredibly unfortunate. Yeah, you

24:23

know, Mike and I talked earlier about

24:25

it, she can look no further than

24:28

Paige Becker's as a comeback story of

24:30

coming back from a knee, being unanimous,

24:32

all-American, presumptive number one pick in the

24:34

W.M.B.A. draft. I mean, that's all still

24:37

ahead for Judeo Watkins. It was just

24:39

a shame. And it was one of

24:41

those you just knew, but you knew

24:43

it was serious when she went down.

24:46

But as they say, the tournament and

24:48

the show goes on. So while they

24:50

always talk about the women's tournament being

24:52

chalky, and the lowest seed is a

24:55

couple of five seeds, Tennessee, and Kansas

24:57

State, still, I mean, any one, two,

24:59

or even a Notre Dame, a three

25:01

seed. So you're talking any. Probably have

25:04

to take USC out of it. I

25:06

don't know if they can get by,

25:08

they can probably get by case date,

25:10

but not by Yukon without Judeo. It's

25:12

still from the thought of a national

25:15

champion. It can still run pretty deep,

25:17

can it? Absolutely. I mean, listen, selfishly

25:19

as TV people, did we want to

25:21

see Juju versus Page Beckers? Of course

25:24

we wanted to. It was not only

25:26

one of the best games of the

25:28

season, it was also one of the

25:30

best games of the tournament last year

25:33

when they faced each other. they're in

25:35

the elite eight, but we are still

25:37

chalk with stars. And if I'm being

25:39

totally honest, you're due to injury or

25:42

not, based on how Yukon is playing

25:44

right now, I don't know that anyone's

25:46

gonna get past Yukon. Like I picked

25:48

South Carolina as my winner. I'm gonna

25:51

stand on business and stand on that

25:53

because I'm firmly of the belief that

25:55

like until someone dethrones the champ or

25:57

proves otherwise, like you roll with the

26:00

champs and their depth is really unparalleled.

26:02

Poetic. Fed up symmetry that on the

26:04

same night that Paige Becker's had her

26:06

final game in stores and ties a

26:09

career high after her journey that we

26:11

saw you, you know, go down to

26:13

this devastating injury because the Paige Becker

26:15

story is the same. It started out.

26:18

She's still the first and only player

26:20

to ever win. Player National Player of

26:22

the Year as a freshman. Like we

26:24

had all of these ideas of how

26:27

many championships Paige was going to win

26:29

and continue that legacy at Yukon. And

26:31

because of injuries to her and to

26:33

her team. we have yet to see

26:36

that and it would be a storybook

26:38

ending for page Becker is one of

26:40

the best to ever do it at

26:42

the college game to get that elusive

26:44

championship. But yeah, I mean, you know,

26:47

or Dame was like, you're, you're, you're,

26:49

your girls are, they look pissed. They

26:51

clearly have. Right, like, I talked to

26:53

Hannah Hidalgo. before the tournament started on

26:56

Sports Center and she was like the

26:58

bright, I'm sorry, I talked to Olivia

27:00

Miles before the tournament started, and she's

27:02

like the bright side for what we

27:05

did was that we saw what our

27:07

weaknesses were before it was season ending,

27:09

right? Like we saw where we needed

27:11

to improve and they've done that, you

27:14

know, they're taking better shots and more

27:16

importantly, they're getting back to the defensive

27:18

part of the game, which is really.

27:20

was such a huge, everybody talks about

27:23

the guards and how great they are

27:25

and they are, but it was their

27:27

defensive pride that had really taken a

27:29

hit in that slide. So the stars

27:32

are still a plenty, it just, it

27:34

sucks, it sucks for Juju, it sucks

27:36

because she has strapped that city on

27:38

her back, she turned a program that

27:41

hadn't been relevant since Lisa Leslie into...

27:43

back-to-back one seeds, but yes, like I

27:45

think it happening last night giving us

27:47

a few days to compartmentalize and then

27:50

refocus for the Sweet 16 is gonna

27:52

be really really big because it's we

27:54

do still have a lot of great

27:56

matchups coming up. No doubt there are

27:59

a ton of great matchups, a ton

28:01

of great star names as you mentioned

28:03

in there. But it feels like we

28:05

might have already had the game of

28:08

the tournament. Is it, is anyone going

28:10

to be able to top what we

28:12

saw from Maryland and Alabama in that

28:14

double overtime thriller? Because I'm still catching

28:16

my breath. I can't imagine what it

28:19

was like for you guys. I think

28:21

there's like a meme going around right

28:23

now. It's like a picture of Sarah

28:25

Ashley Barker and it's like, if I

28:28

send you this, it means I did

28:30

everything I could. She was like she

28:32

was so exhausted. She put up a

28:34

40 piece and I told the girls

28:37

like a few months ago that just

28:39

for my vantage point as a fan,

28:41

even more than Kickers. Like. the most

28:43

anxiety I feel watching a game is

28:46

watching people have to win a game

28:48

or tie a game on free throws

28:50

like I have so much anxiety for

28:52

those players and so I was like

28:55

here we go like she has to

28:57

hit three free throws to send this

28:59

thing into overtime and she does it

29:01

and it was when she said afterwards

29:04

that I don't think anyone would argue

29:06

that's maybe one of the greatest games

29:08

they ever saw that is not hyperbolic.

29:10

Like it gave you, because it wasn't

29:13

like it was double overtime game because

29:15

no one was making buckets. They were

29:17

just, it was a heavyweight bat. It

29:19

was just swing, swing, so it had

29:22

everything that you want and the defensive

29:24

stops and the big buckets. It was

29:26

amazing and it was going to be

29:28

the first time that we'd ever seen

29:31

all the five seeds beat the four

29:33

seeds. So we were robbed of that

29:35

history, but man, we got a great

29:37

game. And I'm telling you to stand

29:40

at that free throw line with just

29:42

you and your thoughts was telling Mike

29:44

earlier I would almost rather it be

29:46

a during a play where you're not

29:48

thinking you're just running a play and

29:51

taking a shot than standing there and

29:53

thinking about having to sink all three

29:55

but she did good on her to

29:57

do as far as as number one

30:00

seeds going the rest of the way.

30:02

We know USC probably won't make it

30:04

to the final four. But if UCLA,

30:06

South Carolina, and Texas, do you think,

30:09

which of those teams do you think

30:11

could get knocked off before the final

30:13

four? You know. Going to the tournament,

30:15

I was of Texas definitively just because

30:18

we saw, if you take Maddie Booker

30:20

out of the equation, what happens? They

30:22

like to ugly the game up and

30:24

their defense is going to keep them

30:27

in any game, but like scoring being

30:29

optional at times is not going to

30:31

help you in the tournament, but they've

30:33

looked really, really good. So is UCLA,

30:36

honestly. I would say still out of

30:38

those three, because of South Carolina's depth,

30:40

I think, and because of their path,

30:42

I definitely think I could see them

30:45

going, UCLA and potentially, you know, USC

30:47

or UConn, I think is, UCLAs path

30:49

is tougher. They're going to have to,

30:51

in order to get to the national

30:54

championship, they're going to have to go

30:56

through. probably Yukon, which I just said

30:58

I don't think anyone's going to beat

31:00

them and they're physical enough to be

31:03

able to compete with Lauren Betts. So

31:05

I would have to, I guess at

31:07

this point, go with UCLA just because

31:09

I think Texas's path is pretty good.

31:12

Although Texas has TCU standing in their

31:14

way, right? And TCU has looked phenomenal.

31:16

So yeah, I'm going to go UCLA

31:18

just because I think the others passed

31:20

is a bit easier. Hold on, Texas

31:23

has noter Dame in their way. Not

31:25

T-C-U. All right, not T-C-U. I'm sorry.

31:27

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The brackets are all

31:29

running. Again, they've been, they were under-seated.

31:32

Like, they were very reactive with that

31:34

three seed, I personally think. I mean,

31:36

it was the team that was the

31:38

number one team in the country, like

31:41

three weeks ago. So, yeah, you're right.

31:43

That's the senior. It's Texas. I was

31:45

gonna say, the lady Irish having to

31:47

go again with a bout of Haley

31:50

Van Lith and the postseason. going to

31:52

be box office for everyone involved. Box

31:54

office, though, the best way to describe

31:56

the big three on ESPN. Check out

31:59

L. with Chena Gumaquet, Andrea Carter. Great

32:01

analysts, really bad with pop culture references

32:03

before they were born. Hopefully they can

32:05

do better because they know better now.

32:08

L. You're the best. Thank you so

32:10

much, buddy. Always great to talk to

32:12

you enough. Enjoy the rest of the

32:14

tournament. Happy back. Thanks out. Absolutely, love

32:17

you too, buddy. We'll talk to you

32:19

soon. Man, the double handwave there was

32:21

really contagious. I couldn't help myself, but

32:23

dad, it, uh, one of those moments

32:26

that's going to stand out, El's right

32:28

with the Jujawakins injury, having this week

32:30

to sort of stop and take a

32:32

breath so that we have the proper

32:35

time to kind of mourn the loss

32:37

of a great star in this tournament

32:39

before it just gives way to the

32:41

next round of games timing wise, I

32:44

think works out really well for the

32:46

overall health of the health of the

32:48

sport kind of the sport kind of

32:50

the sport kind of Yeah, yeah, I

32:53

mean it's it's such again such a

32:55

shame and there there is a little

32:57

bit of a beat now take a

32:59

breath before the next round comes about

33:01

and and I agree with Elle I

33:04

mean she first said UCA but then

33:06

went to Texas you sit there and

33:08

look at the number one seeds out

33:10

I definitely think Texas either having to

33:13

go through Notre Dame or TCU has

33:15

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33:56

think it was demure in how he

33:58

kind of quelled it a little bit.

34:00

But it was, God help me. It

34:02

was kind of bratish when he said

34:05

he has the frogy voice where I

34:07

didn't understand the play call. A little

34:09

bit of demure and a little bit

34:11

of brat. God help me. I hate

34:13

this segment. I hate that we're doing

34:15

this. This is like in the debate

34:17

scene in old school when Will Farrell

34:19

blacks out and gives a coherent analysis

34:21

of the geopolitical state of things. Really

34:24

was one of dad's finer moments and

34:27

a reminder that like we saw yesterday

34:29

with that weird influencer Ashton Hall That

34:31

if you miss a day on the

34:33

internet a whole lot of this stuff

34:35

really doesn't make any sense dad. Does

34:37

it make any more sense to you

34:39

as you sit here now? Well I

34:42

mean, I don't know, I forgot when

34:44

we talked about it, but it wasn't

34:46

that long ago. Is that already not

34:48

a thing anymore? Is demure and brat,

34:50

is that gone? Jesse, I mean, is

34:52

it done? That wasn't a thing like

34:55

the next week. Yeah, it was a

34:57

thing in the summer. It was like

34:59

brat summer, brat, demure. Yeah, the demure

35:01

thing, yeah, it lasted about a week

35:03

or two. What's the thing that has

35:05

lasted the longest in this day and

35:07

age of microwave society, of something hits

35:10

and it's gone? What is, what trend

35:12

has actually lasted a long time? I

35:14

can't think, now again, I'm not on

35:16

social media like you guys are on,

35:18

so I don't know what has actually

35:20

lasted a decent amount of time. Well,

35:22

that's the whole point. None of it

35:25

lasts. No, it's all it's all fleeting

35:27

the internet hive mine chews up and

35:29

spits out different meme formats everyone currently

35:31

right now Just waiting to see what

35:33

group chats they get added on today

35:35

while that reference is still something that

35:38

people understand and then we'll move on

35:40

to the next one after that So

35:42

no dad to answer your question. No

35:44

one is doing brat and demure anymore

35:46

would just probably for the best right

35:48

now We can move on and pelt

35:50

something else at you soon in the

35:53

next few days here before the show's

35:55

over like Another mock draft our producer

35:57

Bailey, aka our senior mock draft analyst.

35:59

continues his role here. We couldn't give

36:01

this to El Duncan in time. It

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was his gift to her as she

36:05

is a noted Denver Broncos fan. Bailey's

36:08

mock draft 4.0 debt as he has

36:10

been going through on the NFL mock

36:12

draft simulator and pumping out different drafts

36:14

taking control of different teams took control

36:16

of the Denver Broncos and really has

36:18

an obsession with trading a hall of

36:21

picks in order to secure at least

36:23

Travis Hunter. So mock draft 4.0. Cam

36:25

Ward actually goes number one overall in

36:27

this one surprise surprise followed by Shador

36:29

Sanders at two and Riley Leonard again

36:32

number three overall to the New York

36:34

Giants before a wave of picks that

36:36

we understand and then the Denver Broncos

36:38

trading with the New York Jets so

36:41

the Broncos receive the 2025 first round

36:43

pick and 2025 fifth round pick in

36:45

exchange for sending the Jets their first

36:47

round pick their second round pick and

36:50

their third round pick in order to

36:52

get Travis Hunter and dad Travis Hunter

36:54

paired up with Pat Sertan the second if

36:56

you wanted to put him on defense in

36:59

that defense would be a vice grip the

37:01

likes of which we have not seen in

37:03

a while in the NFL or if you're

37:05

the Broncos you want to give Bonix another

37:07

weapon on offense could absolutely throw him on

37:09

that side and maybe give Bonix the number

37:11

one wide receiver that they're looking for to

37:13

take that to the next level. So the

37:16

ridiculousness of these mock drafts, I wouldn't

37:18

even say it's at the top or

37:20

the quarterback where Shador Sanders was going,

37:22

number one, or having Riley Leonard and

37:25

a couple of them going to the

37:27

Giants. Love Riley, love what you did

37:29

in Notre Dame, but he's not going

37:31

to be the third pick of the

37:34

draft. The most surprising things to me

37:36

is in, I believe, in three of

37:38

the four of these mock drafts, Travis

37:40

Hunter and Abdul Carter have been anywhere

37:42

from seven to nine to nine to

37:45

ten, there is another edge Russia

37:47

ahead of Abdul Carter. And Shamar

37:49

Stewart from Texas A&M going to

37:52

the Panthers. I mean, again, this

37:54

isn't a mock draft. This is

37:57

a draft we should mock. I, uh,

37:59

yes, it is. is insane. Shamar Stewart, by the

38:01

way, first team all if you were just

38:03

drafting off purability and size alone, an absolutely

38:05

insane physical specimen and one that Abdul Carter

38:08

made the full-time shift to edge last year,

38:10

but it's still a guy that's probably gonna

38:12

have to add some size. Shamar Stewart. got

38:14

it all in droves got the physical ability

38:17

like it's going out of style the production

38:19

hasn't necessarily matched that and certainly there's no

38:21

world where he's drafted before Abdul Carter so

38:23

that one interesting one that for what it's

38:25

worth that I saw in Mike Tannam's mock

38:28

draft that went out this morning He had

38:30

the Broncos, I believe scooping up Amarian Hampton,

38:32

the running back that's expected to be the

38:34

second running back taken in the first round.

38:36

Ashton Gente, the presumed top back off the

38:39

board, but it is pretty common knowledge at

38:41

this point that we're probably going to get

38:43

two first rounders in Amarian Hampton out of

38:45

UNC. appears to be the one and dad

38:48

the Broncos adding a a running back as

38:50

a weapon at an off in an offense

38:52

that has a quarterback that's mobile enough to

38:54

hurt you and bow Knicks more as a

38:56

scrambler than maybe a designed runner and an

38:59

offensive line that took huge steps forward last

39:01

year and year one under Zach Streiff the

39:03

row line coach that came with Sean Payton

39:05

was no lineman that played for Sean for

39:08

years in New Orleans. I think running back

39:10

inserted into that offense in a way that

39:12

pops could really be one of those spots

39:14

that takes a team. from good to potentially

39:16

great the following season the way that we

39:19

saw for a few teams that made moves

39:21

last off season. Yeah I think Denver Denver

39:23

was was really good on defense I think

39:25

that was surprised some people right and and

39:27

with Sean Payton being an offensive coach everybody

39:30

thought that side would take a jump and

39:32

obviously the the maturation of bow Knicks was

39:34

huge who started out like a rookie quarterback

39:36

early in the season, but really progressed well.

39:39

But that defense really stood up. So I'm

39:41

with you adding some weapons for bow Knicks

39:43

on the offensive side and trying to get

39:45

a running game. I could certainly see that.

39:47

One of the other interesting notes in Mike

39:50

Tanamom's draft is towards the end of the

39:52

first round. He had the Los Angeles Rams

39:54

actually scooping up Jackson Dart, which dad would

39:56

be really interesting in a lot of ways.

39:58

We know Matthew Stafford, it's kind of been

40:01

a willy won't he the last couple of

40:03

off seasons in terms of coming back here?

40:05

But for a guy that they'd like to,

40:07

you know, go and potentially have an air

40:10

apparent ready for in Los Angeles, he may

40:12

not have his receiver for well into his

40:14

30s here, pukinakua with an interesting statement yesterday.

40:16

and talked about how he views his career

40:18

trajectory as a player and mentioned kind of

40:21

having a cap on when he wanted to

40:23

play. Take a listen. I want to retire

40:25

at the age of 30. I'm 23 right

40:27

now, I'm going into year three. I think

40:29

of Aaron Donald, like man, like to go

40:32

out at the top, I think it would

40:34

be super cool, but then also be like,

40:36

yo, like I want to, I want to

40:38

have a big family, just like I want,

40:41

I want to have at least a starting

40:43

five. I'm like, I came from a big

40:45

family, so I'm like, I came from a

40:47

big family, so I'm like, I need five

40:49

boys, I need five boys, I need five

40:52

boys, for sure, for sure. But I'm five

40:54

boys, I'm five boys, I'm five boys, I'm

40:56

five boys, for sure, for sure. But I'm

40:58

five boys, I'm five boys, for sure, for

41:01

sure. But I'm five boys, for five boys,

41:03

for five boys, for sure. But I'm five

41:05

boys, for five boys, but, for five boys,

41:07

for five boys, for five boys, but, for

41:09

five boys, for five boys, for sure, but,

41:12

but You know, if you're the Rams, and

41:14

again, a guy retiring after a 10-year career

41:16

is great. That's a long, incredibly productive career.

41:18

But dad, I'm sure, especially for your generation,

41:20

this is kind of a new phenomenon that

41:23

continues to exist where these guys have more

41:25

of an eye on life after football and

41:27

make more money to make that possible early

41:29

on in their careers. Yeah, I mean, it

41:32

used to be during my era, basically what

41:34

you went into was either coaching or be

41:36

an analyst, right? I mean, that was kind

41:38

of it. Now there's so much more available

41:40

to players and keeping doors open while you're

41:43

playing the amount of money that you make.

41:45

I think he said he wanted to own

41:47

a restaurant, Puka Nuku did, and you're right,

41:49

playing 10 years. He goes seven more years.

41:51

That's a hell of a career, but it's

41:54

definitely different, but these guys seem to have

41:56

more options. keep more doors open while they're

41:58

playing and there and there's what the money

42:00

they're making there's many more options out there.

42:03

Yeah well and dead I think even less

42:05

of oh the options they have post playing

42:07

and the mentality is just different it used

42:09

to be I'm going to play as long

42:11

as humanly possible I'm going to make the

42:14

game retire me that used to be the

42:16

mentality that even when I was growing up

42:18

seemed to be the one adopted by most

42:20

players and now and especially for him dad

42:22

he mentioned Aaron Donald having that example in

42:25

the locker room of one of the all-time

42:27

grades of that position being a guy that

42:29

retired young like that having accomplished what he

42:31

did I think is a very reminder for

42:34

them that you can accomplish enough and then

42:36

still have time later on to do all

42:38

the things post career in a way that

42:40

just wasn't acknowledged before. One of the things

42:42

though I'll say Mike is Back in my

42:45

day, only the quarterbacks were making big money.

42:47

So you weren't making the money that you

42:49

could sit and just sit on for the

42:51

rest of your life. You were making good

42:54

money, don't get me wrong, but you couldn't

42:56

just do nothing or just kind of play

42:58

around, you know, buy a restaurant here or

43:00

do something there. The money that most players

43:02

are a greater percentage of players are making

43:05

way more money than we made. So again,

43:07

that gives them the option to do different

43:09

things or just retire. Yeah, no, it is.

43:11

It's a very decided shift in mindset. So

43:13

if you get a Jackson dart picked at

43:16

the end of the first round by the

43:18

Los Angeles Rams, he better save for the

43:20

opportunities he has to throw the ball to

43:22

Puka because according to him, he may not

43:25

have that for much longer. We'll finish up

43:27

next on Gojo and Golan. All

43:46

right, time to finish off the show

43:49

the way we always do. It's this,

43:51

that, and the third, three quick stories

43:53

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44:08

you to our guests from today that

44:10

joined the show. Jason Fitz from Yahoo

44:12

Sports in hour number one. And El

44:14

Duncan, part of the big three covering

44:17

women's college hoops over at ESPN for

44:19

joining us in hour number two. If

44:21

you miss any of those, check out

44:23

the interviews wherever you get our podcast

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or right here on YouTube as soon

44:27

as we get done. Thank you to

44:29

producer Bailey, our senior mock draft expert,

44:32

mock draft expert. for blessing us with

44:34

his mocks throughout the show today here.

44:36

I think the only one we didn't

44:38

get to do want to pop up

44:40

mock draft 5.0 that Bailey had in

44:42

the last segment that we didn't get

44:45

to. I screwed this up not Bailey

44:47

in terms of the timing. He drafted

44:49

for the Titans, he traded back in

44:51

the first round and was able to

44:53

get Travis Hunter at number three overall.

44:55

via the New York Giants. He sent

44:57

the Giants the number one overall pick

45:00

and got their third pick, a second

45:02

round pick, a fifth round pick, and

45:04

two sevenths. And still got Travis Hunter.

45:06

Shadour Sanders goes number one overall to

45:08

the Giants, followed by Cam Ward to

45:10

the Browns dad. So are you thoroughly

45:13

exhausted by all of Bailey's mock drafts

45:15

now? I'm glad it's almost over. I'm

45:17

glad it's coming to an end is

45:19

what I am. Because again, it's not

45:21

a mock draft, it to draft to

45:23

draft to draft to mock. to the

45:26

Carolina Panthers. I mean, I just can't.

45:28

Because now some of this is going

45:30

to be stuck in my brain. And

45:32

I may spew it out on other

45:34

shows that I go on. Bailey's mock

45:36

draft may be in my mind. And

45:38

I may say, yeah, Carolina, you know,

45:41

we're going to work on a deal

45:43

or whatever and get Abdul Carter number

45:45

eight. And I'll be asked to leave

45:47

the show I'm on. I mean, this

45:49

may have hurt more than it has

45:51

helped. I appreciate your accountability in blaming

45:54

Bailey for your future errors as a

45:56

professional sports broadcaster. That's big stuff from

45:58

you. I appreciate that. I appreciate Bailey's

46:00

contributions to the show. And I appreciate

46:02

this that the third. Let's start off

46:04

with this guys. We talked a lot

46:06

about the women's tournament and Paige Beckers

46:09

who played her final game. in stores

46:11

Connecticut after a prolific career. But seems

46:13

to strike all of the right notes

46:15

between speeches we've heard her make at

46:17

the Espy's, some of her off-court exploits,

46:19

and the way she's assisted teammates here.

46:22

There was a great story about her

46:24

teammate Jana L. Alfie who is from

46:26

Cairo Egypt and who is Muslim and

46:28

participates in the holy month of Ramadan

46:30

where she fasts from sunrise to sundown.

46:32

And so as a part of that,

46:34

which starts February 28th to March 29th

46:37

of this year, Paige Beckers has taken

46:39

to waking up in the morning to

46:41

cook her teammate breakfast so that she

46:43

can break her fast getting as much

46:45

sleep as possible. until just before some

46:47

rise when Paige, who's a roommate, would

46:50

actually wake her up with breakfast already

46:52

cooked. She said when Ramadan was getting

46:54

ready to start, Paige showed up with

46:56

a bunch of groceries and took it

46:58

on herself to try and help out

47:00

her teammate as much as she could.

47:03

So Dad, a cool moment for Paige

47:05

who has in so many ways seemed

47:07

like someone who's been a great ally

47:09

to a lot of her teammates that

47:11

have come from different backgrounds and showing

47:13

up big time during the tournament here.

47:15

Yeah, it's just a cool story. She

47:18

had to bang on her on their

47:20

door before the second round game against

47:22

South Dakota State. That's a little tired.

47:24

Again, not eating after sunrise to sundown,

47:26

but yeah, to get up early, to

47:28

cook or breakfast, that's a hell of

47:31

a teammate right there. That's good stuff.

47:33

That goes beyond a teammate, that's a

47:35

great friend. Yeah, again, being able to

47:37

be a servant leader and put others

47:39

first. You know, I don't know a

47:41

lot about being a great player, but

47:43

the tenets of leadership really strong in

47:46

page backers who continues to shine and

47:48

is going to make some team in

47:50

the W very happy as soon as

47:52

she gets done potentially helping you con

47:54

lit another banner up in stores after

47:56

this March Madness tournament wraps up. So

47:59

kudos to her being a great teammate

48:01

helping out the ladies. Jesse, let's get

48:03

to that. What do we got here?

48:05

Yeah, so Jennifer Coolidge has more than

48:07

just a career renaissance to thank the

48:09

White Lotus for. We know her as

48:11

the icon. character of Tanya McQuow, she

48:14

was killed off last season. But she

48:16

came out and said that this role

48:18

has gotten her more guys than playing

48:20

Stiffler's mom. So she said her dating

48:22

life has just seen an outrageous uptick

48:24

because fans are so devastated over Tanya's

48:27

end. The way she, you know, spoiler

48:29

alert for season two of White Lotus.

48:31

If you haven't watched it, turn this

48:33

off. Don't hear me say this. The

48:35

way that she dies at the end

48:37

of season two, she falls off of

48:40

boats, the whole thing. So apparently the

48:42

fans, male fans, are so devastated by

48:44

Tanya's, and it's given her a little,

48:46

her career is taken off, her dating

48:48

life is taken off, really just, I

48:50

mean, couldn't ask for more for our

48:52

girl Jennifer Coolidge. I mean, Dad, we

48:55

love to see good things happening for

48:57

her. And again, spoiler alert right now,

48:59

because we're going to mention some of

49:01

the current season here. So like Jesse

49:03

said, if you haven't seen and aren't

49:05

caught up the date on White Lotus,

49:08

turn the dial right now. But Dad

49:10

was devastated that they didn't find some

49:12

way to date on White Lotus. Turn

49:14

the dial right now. But Dad was

49:16

devastated that they didn't find some way

49:18

to revive. I love it. She says

49:20

the show really upped my game. I

49:23

love that the show has worked out

49:25

for that. Also a Stiffler's mom in

49:27

American Pie was hilarious as well. And

49:29

listen, you said it. I'll just say

49:31

it. This season of White Lotus is

49:33

awful. It's awful. The storylines are bad.

49:36

They're dragging it all out too long,

49:38

but I'm sucked into it. I've watched

49:40

every episode. So I'll continue to watch

49:42

it. But it is not by a

49:44

little. It is by far, by far

49:46

the worst season of White Lotus, without

49:48

question. I'm so into it. I don't

49:51

know. I feel, I've read the criticism,

49:53

but I just, I feel like all

49:55

the seasons have been a little bit

49:57

of a slow burn. I mean, I...

49:59

I guess, I don't know, I'm into

50:01

it. I'm freaked out by some of

50:04

these storylines, but I also am very

50:06

invested. Well, yeah, at this point now,

50:08

we've come too far, and it's still

50:10

a show that is... beautifully shot like

50:12

so much of this is wealth porn

50:14

and vacation porn in the show where

50:17

you get to see all these beautiful

50:19

places you have an otherwise ban and

50:21

the way they do it is obvious

50:23

quality it's an HBO show but I'm

50:25

with dad there's just been not enough

50:27

payoff until really the last couple of

50:29

episodes but even that payoff deeply disturbing

50:32

and a storyline that I hate that's

50:34

taken center stage and all of this

50:36

so I think with that combined I'm

50:38

with that I wouldn't go so far

50:40

as to say it's awful I think

50:42

it's too quality wise in so many

50:45

other ways to be truly awful, but

50:47

it's definitely the worst of the three

50:49

seasons and they've got their handful in

50:51

trying to land the plane. Speaking of

50:53

land in the plane, Jesse, let's get

50:55

to the third here. I just saw

50:57

the lines breast milk bow talks and

51:00

I have a lot of questions. Oh

51:02

God. So people on the internet are

51:04

claiming that rubbing frozen breast milk on

51:06

your face is a way to stave

51:08

off the aging process to help with

51:10

those fine lines and wrinkles. And this

51:13

isn't terribly new. They say with breast

51:15

milk you can like put it in

51:17

your baby's bath that will help with

51:19

skin issues like eczema and stuff like

51:21

that. But let me just throw some

51:23

cold. breast milk on this whole situation

51:25

because the experts have come out and

51:28

said that there's no scientific evidence here

51:30

there's no biochemical substitute for neuromodulators like

51:32

Botox okay which is why as I've

51:34

said I'm all about the organic way

51:36

but I still inject neurotoxins into my

51:38

face because there is no alternative people

51:41

put those little frowny lines on their

51:43

face and they sleep with all these

51:45

little like morning shed you need Botox.

51:47

Botox will fix that okay I'm just

51:49

it's just Let's just be one. Let's

51:51

be one. I'm a male woman, so

51:54

I'm not going to drink it. I

51:56

have a glass of water bottle, but

51:58

I will get Botox in my forehead.

52:00

I will. One of the most famous.

52:02

on this show. But when it says

52:04

that experts call BS, it sounds like

52:06

the Botox injecting experts are the one

52:09

that are trying to make good and

52:11

damn sure, you come back to Sweet

52:13

Mama Botox before it's all said and

52:15

done. And you don't entertain any other

52:17

alternatives other than sticking the needle in

52:19

your face. Listen, women that want to

52:22

make their decisions, however they want to

52:24

go about their business, I am fine

52:26

with. But my God, I mean... rubbing

52:28

breast milk on your face? I mean,

52:30

I just, I mean, listen, oh boy

52:32

the other day was rubbing the banana

52:34

peel on his face. We got a

52:37

bunch of stuff that we can apparently

52:39

do that. And listen, come on, that

52:41

does nothing for you. Have we read

52:43

anything about rubbing a freaking banana peel

52:45

on your face doing anything for you?

52:47

I mean, how ridiculous is that? I

52:50

have heard of that one before. I

52:52

have heard of that one before. I

52:54

think there's some exfolating properties in a

52:56

banana peel. You know what? If Ashton

52:58

Hall is really about that life, his

53:00

next video, instead of a bowl of

53:02

water, it'll be a bowl of breast

53:05

milk that he dumps his face into

53:07

to ensure that he will have rich

53:09

beautiful skin for the rest of his

53:11

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