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Girl here. I'm Mignon Fogarty, your friendly
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about writing, history, roles and other cool
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stuff. Today, we're going to
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talk about how to use political words
1:03
like President Elect and lame duck. And
1:05
then I have my favorite kind
1:07
of hot grammar news about a German
1:10
apostrophe kerfuffle. It's
1:12
hard to miss a United States presidential
1:14
election year. You're bombarded with political ads
1:17
every time you turn on your TV.
1:20
On social media, heated debates about
1:22
who should run the country suddenly
1:24
outnumber your best friend's cat pics.
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Campaign signs have sprouted like
1:29
dandelions on lawns across your
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neighborhood. Well, today
1:33
we're actually going to have a little
1:35
respite from all that. Instead
1:37
of arguing about who deserves your vote,
1:39
we're going to dig into the world
1:41
of election terminology. When does
1:44
a regular Joe or Jane turn into
1:46
a presumptive nominee? At
1:48
what magical moment does one candidate
1:50
earn the title President Elect? And
1:53
why on earth do we
1:55
call outgoing presidents lame ducks?
1:58
Spoiler alert, it has nothing to do with their
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waddling abilities. So
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ever wonder how our
2:06
beloved yellow snail Squiggly
2:08
becomes presumptive nominee Squiggly?
2:11
Well setting aside he's clearly not
2:13
responsible enough to get that far,
2:15
let's dig in. Presumptive
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nominee is political speak for we're pretty
2:20
darn sure this person's going to win
2:23
the party's nomination but we
2:25
don't want to jinx it. Still
2:28
the term presumptive is important because
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nothing's a sure thing until after
2:33
the party's national convention. And
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given that presumptive nominee isn't
2:38
a title so much as a descriptor,
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it isn't capitalized. And
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although we're past the presumptive stage for the
2:46
current election, journalists are typically
2:48
careful about when they apply the term
2:50
to a candidate. They
2:52
don't presume someone's a nominee
2:55
until it's mathematically inevitable. For
2:58
example, the Associated Press only
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uses presumptive nominee once
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a candidate has earned enough delegates to
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win a majority vote at their national
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party convention. And in
3:08
case you're wondering, it's the same for
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the vice president. A candidate's running mate
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is also considered presumptive after the primary
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votes are tallied but before
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the party's national convention. Now
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in the United States, presidential elections
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happen every four years in November.
3:25
But the newly elected president
3:27
doesn't take over immediately. That
3:30
happens after the inauguration. That
3:32
happens on January 20th or the 21st if
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January 20th happens to be on a Sunday. So
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before the inauguration, an incoming
3:41
president is referred to
3:43
as president-elect. For
3:45
the Associated Press, that designation kicks in as
3:48
soon as it's clear who won and the
3:50
race has been called. But
3:52
here's a word of caution. This declaration
3:54
can sometimes take a few days
3:56
or even longer to happen, especially
3:58
in close elections. So,
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let's say it's November, and the
4:03
presidential race has been called and
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Squiggly will take office in January.
4:08
As part of Squiggly's new
4:10
title, you capitalize President, but
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lowercase the suffix elect, and
4:15
always use a hyphen. Today,
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President-elect Squiggly announced his
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Cabinet picks. Capital
4:22
President, hyphen-elect. If
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the term stands alone or follows
4:27
a name, you use lowercase. The
4:30
President-elect scheduled a press conference tomorrow.
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President-elect, lowercase, and hyphenated.
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President Aardvark will appear
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alongside Squiggly, comma, President-elect.
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Also President-elect, lowercase, and hyphenated.
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After the inauguration, a President-elect
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officially becomes President, and their
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running mate becomes Vice President.
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In both AP and Chicago
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styles, you capitalize President and
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Vice President only when they're
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used as a title. For
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example, President is capitalized in this
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sentence. Yesterday, President
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Squiggly expressed a desire to
5:09
make Tuesday the nation's official
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taco-eating day. In
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all other cases, President and Vice
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President are lowercase. For example, it's
5:18
lowercase in this sentence. The
5:21
National Taco Appreciation Society
5:23
applauds the President's initiative.
5:27
And one fun fact for trivia night. If
5:29
you follow the Chicago Manual of Style, one
5:32
government office is always capitalized.
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Speaker. That's true whether
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it's used as part of a title or not.
5:41
For example, Speaker is capitalized
5:43
every time in this sentence.
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It's likely Speaker Zippy will call
5:48
the Taco Day Declaration into question.
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It's widely known that the Speaker is more
5:53
of a hot dog fan. The
5:56
distinction likely exists for clarity's
5:58
sake. legislative institution
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like the House of Representatives, where
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everybody has something to say and
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the things they say are recorded
6:07
for posterity, using the
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word lowercase speaker could be
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confusing. Are we talking about
6:14
the speaker of the house or just the
6:16
speaker currently holding the floor? It's
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not a universal rule though. If
6:21
you follow AP style, then speaker is
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only capitalized as part of a title,
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even when you're talking about the speaker of the house.
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As in the speaker has expressed
6:31
resentment over his hot dog Friday's
6:34
initiative failing to pass mustard, mustard.
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Presidents who have left office are referred
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to as former and you shouldn't
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capitalize former even when it's part of a title.
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It turned out the sandwich left
6:48
in the Oval Office belonged to
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former president Aardvark, lowercase
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former. Finally,
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again, why on earth do we
6:57
call certain presidents the lame duck
6:59
presidents? Well, the
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term refers to a president who's either
7:03
chosen not to run for reelection or
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has been defeated in an election and
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is serving out the remainder of their
7:10
term. But lame
7:12
duck isn't just for presidential elections.
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According to Edam online, it originated in 1761
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and referred to any disabled person
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or thing. It was
7:24
also stock exchange slang for a
7:26
defaulter. The modern
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use of lame duck to refer to a
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defeated or retiring candidate serving out their term
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didn't hit the American English scene until 1863.
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A few years later, Abraham Lincoln's
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friend and biographer, Noah Brooks, told
7:42
of Lincoln showing his annoyance with
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politicians by saying that, quote, a
7:47
senator or representative out of business
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is a sort of lame duck.
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He has to be provided for.
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was absolutely delighted to see a
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story this week about Germans getting
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all upset about apostrophes. I love
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stories like this. Usually
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it's the French Academy going off
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about how much they hate English
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words like email sullying their language.
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But this time it's actually
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the Permissive Council for German
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Orthography telling the citizenry that
10:27
it is fine to use
10:29
apostrophes to make names possessive,
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which is a decidedly English practice,
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and German sticklers getting all upset about
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it. So let's
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back up. What is orthography and
10:42
why does Germany have a council
10:44
about it? Well,
10:46
the word itself means correct writing,
10:48
and it's usually thought of as
10:50
the rules for spelling, but it
10:52
also covers things like whether properly
10:55
spelled words are capitalized, of
10:57
apostrophes and hyphens, and
10:59
in German umlauts. So
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I started reading about German orthography, as
11:04
one does, and realized that oh no
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no, this is not at all something
11:08
new. It turns out
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controversial changes to German spelling rules
11:13
go back to at least 1996
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when an international group that included
11:19
people from multiple German-speaking countries, Germany,
11:22
Switzerland, Austria, and Liechtenstein,
11:25
signed an agreement making changes to
11:27
the language that people then fought
11:29
about for years, especially
11:32
teachers. The
11:34
biggest changes were about when to use
11:36
the double S symbol called the S-set
11:38
or the sharp S that looks a
11:40
lot like a capital B. But
11:42
there were also some capitalization changes
11:44
and changes that involved breaking apart
11:46
some of those long compound words
11:48
that German is known for. And
11:51
people have been talking about German
11:54
spelling reform for decades before these
11:56
changes were actually made. So
11:58
in 2004, our
12:01
apostrophe-loving Council for German Orthography
12:03
seems to be what emerged
12:05
on the other side of
12:07
these battles. And it
12:09
is also an international group, including
12:12
members from seven different countries. So
12:15
I ran almost the whole website for the
12:17
Council through Google Translate to figure out that
12:20
the members meet twice a year with some
12:22
breakout working groups, and then
12:24
they set orthography rules and also publish
12:26
a dictionary. Since their
12:28
formation, I believe they've published official updates
12:30
to the language three times in 2011,
12:33
2017, and now again in July
12:38
of 2024. And it's
12:40
this most recent update approving
12:42
what Germans actually call the
12:44
Idiots Apostrophe, the Deppen-Apostraaf,
12:47
that caused the uproar.
12:49
So here's the
12:51
deal with the apostrophe. Germans
12:53
don't use it to make words possessive
12:55
like we do. If they
12:58
want to write that this is Eva's
13:00
Flour Shop, they just put an S
13:02
on the end of Eva. There's no
13:04
apostrophe like we do it. Or at
13:06
least there wasn't officially until now. But
13:09
apparently Germans have been doing their own
13:12
thing and writing names this way for
13:14
a while, which is why there's a
13:16
derogatory name for it. And
13:18
which is why the Council finally said
13:21
fine. This thing is widespread. People obviously
13:23
want it or feel like they need
13:25
it, so fine. But it
13:27
turns out even this isn't completely
13:30
new. Going all the
13:32
way back to the first set
13:34
of rule changes, the Council said
13:36
it was okay to use the
13:38
apostrophe in proper nouns to clear
13:40
up possible confusion between names like
13:43
Carlo and Carlos. For
13:45
example, the difference between Carlos'
13:47
Tavern and Carlos' Tavern. So
13:50
the change is really just to say that
13:52
you can do it for any proper noun,
13:54
not just when leaving it out might be
13:56
confusing. And as you might have
13:58
noticed, it's still a complicated because
14:01
it's only for proper nouns,
14:03
names, and not for other
14:05
nouns. So Germans
14:07
can now properly use an
14:09
apostrophe to make Peter's tavern
14:11
possessive, but they still aren't
14:13
supposed to use apostrophes to
14:15
make something like that man's
14:17
tavern possessive. Now
14:20
there are a couple of things I find
14:22
particularly interesting about this story. First,
14:25
it's fascinating that in English,
14:27
the thing about apostrophes that
14:29
causes the kind of outrage
14:31
and news stories that Germans
14:33
are currently enduring is
14:36
official bodies not using
14:38
apostrophes. For example,
14:40
North Yorkshire Council dealt with all
14:42
kinds of backlash when it said
14:44
it was going to remove apostrophes
14:46
from place names like St. Mary's
14:49
Walk to avoid problems with computer
14:51
systems. It became
14:53
an international story and caused such
14:55
a problem that they actually later
14:57
said they were going to keep
14:59
the apostrophes after all. Other reasons
15:01
companies give for dropping apostrophes
15:03
are for domain name consistency,
15:05
since you can't have an
15:07
apostrophe in something like Pete's
15:09
tavern.com, for search
15:12
engine optimization, and
15:14
just for cleaner branding. For
15:16
example, some people think the
15:18
logos for companies like Papa
15:20
John's, Starbucks, and TGI Friday's
15:22
look better, cleaner, without the
15:24
apostrophe. And when I was a professor,
15:26
a shocking number of my
15:28
students would spell the contraction can't
15:30
without the apostrophe, as if
15:33
it were can't the word for private
15:35
language used among criminals instead of a
15:37
contraction for cannot. And I
15:39
have no idea why. I asked
15:41
them and nobody could tell me. But
15:44
the trend in English definitely seems
15:46
to be away from the apostrophe.
15:50
And second, the Germans who don't
15:52
like the change grumble about English
15:54
corrupting their language. And that
15:56
may be the influence today. But the possession...
15:59
Possessive apostrophe actually isn't
16:01
our invention. In
16:04
old English, which remember is a
16:06
Germanic language, we just used S
16:08
and ES for possessives the same
16:10
way the Germans still do it.
16:13
The possessive apostrophe infiltrated our
16:15
language from either Italian or
16:18
French, depending on whom you
16:20
ask, and people called it
16:22
a mistake in English for a long time.
16:25
Shakespeare barely used them for possessives,
16:27
for example. When I
16:29
talked to Eamonn Che about apostrophes, he
16:32
told me that in Shakespeare's first folio,
16:34
about 96% of the
16:37
words we'd put apostrophes in
16:39
today didn't have them. So
16:41
my German friends, we are
16:43
together, all victims
16:46
of apostrophe-pushing Italian or
16:48
French printers. We
16:50
just succumbed hundreds of years earlier than
16:52
you did. Finally,
16:58
I have a familect story from Karen, who
17:00
shared this with me as a voice recording
17:02
on threads. Hi, Grammar Girl.
17:05
I have a familect story for you from
17:07
my favorite show. In The West
17:09
Wing, there's a scene where speechwriter
17:11
Sam Seaborn tells Leo McGarry that
17:13
he is acting like a nervous
17:16
olealia. Everyone looks at him
17:18
really perplexed and he says, it might not be
17:20
a real word, it's just something his mother used
17:22
to say. I've always wanted to
17:24
know where the writers got that. Maybe
17:27
it's a Sorkin family familect? Anyway,
17:29
I thought it'd be a good one to look into.
17:32
Thanks Karen. I love a good mystery and
17:34
when I tried to search, I couldn't find
17:36
anything about this word. So maybe
17:39
someone in the audience can help. Who
17:41
knows about being a nervous olealia? Let
17:43
me know. If you want
17:45
to shed some light on this or share your
17:47
own familect, you can do it in a voice
17:49
chat on WhatsApp or send me a voice message
17:51
on threads like Karen did or you can still
17:53
call the voicemail line at 83-321-4GIRL. And
17:58
all of those are in the show notes. Next,
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later this week, I have an extra
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special interview with writing inspiration extraordinaire Anne
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