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NFL Draft's first round is

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in the books. Chris Makin, Nate

1:03

Nolan, all react. They go through each

1:05

pick, break down all the teams

1:07

in their editions, their favorite

1:09

moves, the biggest trades, the biggest splashes.

1:11

Everything you need out of a

1:14

draft reaction show is right here. Welcome

1:47

to the show. This show

1:50

is being recorded from my

1:52

man cave at the house.

1:54

I've got Nolan. I've got

1:56

Dr. Fax. I've got Macon. Tanner's

1:59

in here working the machines because Cowboy Reed

2:01

and Bo are in Green Bay

2:03

at the draft. The

2:06

2025 NFL draft, which

2:10

I would deem to be a low energy draft.

2:13

Two trades thus far in the

2:15

first round waiting on the 29th

2:17

pick for Washington one of the

2:19

trades was a huge pump fake Take

2:21

it away making on its

2:23

face Jackson was

2:26

face Jackson on

2:28

its face Jackson with

2:31

an axe last name

2:33

dart Old

2:36

miss pedigree

2:38

You think Maybe not the easiest

2:40

guy to root for, not so

2:42

fast. What we have

2:44

in Jackson Dart is the second coming

2:46

of Josh Allen. Four inches shorter,

2:48

sure. 25 pounds

2:51

lighter, yeah. Sure. But

2:53

he's a white quarterback. Well, when I was

2:55

here on his head. I gotta tell you

2:57

what, I squinted a little bit during his

2:59

highlights. I wasn't sure. That's a good

3:01

thing. You guys

3:03

like Minshew though, right? He

3:05

could be another Minshew. Great,

3:07

Menchu. Can we set the

3:09

heights higher? Set

3:11

the sights higher. Abdul

3:13

Carter. No, listen, I'm coming around on

3:15

the Jackson D 'Art thing. Yeah,

3:19

look, as I told

3:21

you, when we watched his three highlights

3:23

of three completed passes, poise,

3:26

eyes up, steps up

3:28

in the pocket, very plying a la

3:30

Tom Brady. Ball didn't hit the ground. Ball

3:32

didn't hit the ground. So

3:34

good, good pick by New

3:36

York. It's just kind of indicative of

3:38

the whole first round when everybody's on

3:40

the edge of their seat and we're like,

3:43

yeah, here comes Sanders. Even you

3:45

were like, hey, New York's going to trade

3:47

up and get Sanders. And,

3:49

you know, like, nah, it's

3:51

Jackson Dart who looks.

3:54

Did you say this? He looks old and young

3:56

at the same time. I think he looks young,

3:58

but you're right. The more I'm doing Google image

4:00

search and he looks like. Simultaneously

4:03

42 and 16. Yeah.

4:06

And people are doing some

4:09

weird things with his wiki right now.

4:11

He's currently two feet, two inches

4:13

tall on wiki. And he's from Romania

4:15

instead of Utah. All

4:17

right, well, let's get to the, let's

4:19

get down to it. We're going to go ahead

4:21

and name Chase Jackson Chase Dart. He

4:24

sounds like a fictional quarterback, honestly.

4:27

Two feet, two Hertz, the Josh

4:29

Allen cop. It does. Well,

4:31

so, so here's the deal. The

4:35

story of the night is going to

4:37

be Shudder Sanders, obviously. What

4:39

does it really mean to that player? Well,

4:41

if at the end of the first round,

4:43

he were to get picked by a team looking

4:46

to, I thought he could go to LA like,

4:48

honestly, once the trade was

4:50

made to move up for the

4:52

Giants into the first round and everything we

4:54

just talked about transpired, I was like, hey,

4:56

LA would be a perfect landing spot for him.

4:58

How many teams get to really stick the landing?

5:01

on replacing a Hall of Fame quarterback

5:03

in phase, great structure,

5:05

great offensive system. But

5:08

they didn't go that direction. And

5:11

now it's Buffalo in

5:13

real time, five minutes left on the clock,

5:15

Kansas City, Philly.

5:17

Philly. You know, like I

5:20

would say for Shaddur Sanders, and

5:22

it's easy for me to say, but

5:24

honestly, as a second generation football player

5:26

who quite frankly, didn't have as

5:28

much money as he has. Honestly, I mean,

5:30

like this guy probably made $5

5:32

million playing college football this year.

5:34

He shouldn't give a fuck about the

5:37

money. Okay. I got two

5:39

tabs open. I got Jaden Daniels salary. It's

5:41

$8 .6 million in

5:44

2025. Okay. And I got

5:46

Josh Allen's. He just signed a

5:48

six year, $330 million extension. So

5:51

what's important is not

5:53

the first paycheck. What's

5:55

important is the first landing spot. What

5:58

I'm hopeful for his

6:00

sake is that he gets the best

6:02

of both worlds, you know, like, or

6:04

not the worst of both worlds. Worst

6:06

of both worlds is you slide into

6:09

the second early on and the Browns

6:11

take you. Whoa. And

6:13

the Browns own two of the first four

6:15

picks in the second round. And that's how

6:17

that's what I said. Going into this draft

6:19

was like, watch, the Browns are going to

6:21

wait around. They're going to get a quarterback

6:23

and maybe a good one. Intruder Sanders, I

6:25

don't know but the point is you know

6:27

like for him He could get scooped up

6:29

at the end of the first doesn't look

6:31

like it's gonna happen Or he could lose

6:33

out on all that first round money, which

6:35

he doesn't need right? We just

6:37

talked about that It's easy for me

6:39

to say that between pick 31

6:41

and the first pick in it like

6:44

the money guy It's For me,

6:46

it's not really about the money gap

6:48

from that point. It's the gap

6:50

in circumstance. Yeah. You know, and

6:53

the money gap exists from one

6:55

to 33 or whatever it is. Yeah.

6:57

But the point is, like, you

6:59

can have a really good weekend

7:01

and go 31 or 30 and succeed

7:03

some quarterback or, you know, join

7:06

a team that's pretty good and maybe

7:08

their quarterback just retired or something

7:10

like that. In years past, you

7:12

see situations like that. But it looks

7:14

like he's going to get passed

7:16

up altogether. Easy for me

7:18

to say, you know, it's not

7:20

really about like tonight. It's about like

7:23

the next 10 years for a

7:25

professional quarterback, but pretty uncomfortable. They've

7:27

kept the camera out of

7:29

his situation, which is nice. It's

7:32

not like a truly like seated

7:34

square on like kind of Aaron Rodgers

7:36

shot. It looks to be like

7:38

Dion off in the corner. should or

7:40

well of media Their their whole

7:43

media team is there. Yeah, they probably

7:45

told them. Hey, we got this

7:47

like we don't need you guys running

7:49

this narrative tonight just in case

7:51

it doesn't go well and They probably

7:53

made the right choice by that.

7:55

Well, it's it looks like it's laid

7:57

out So we're not gonna get

7:59

a bunch of embarrassing like shots of

8:01

should or looking Dejected as this

8:04

whole thing although gilly the kid who's

8:06

there seems pretty pissed off understandably

8:08

Mm -hmm. Um, you knew they had

8:10

to be prepared for this. There was

8:12

chatter about this happening. Yep. You

8:14

know, like if anybody has a lot

8:16

of insight into what's happening in

8:18

the NFL and stay on. Yeah. Right.

8:20

So, um, the bills are

8:23

going to be picking here in a

8:25

second, but I figured that's the biggest

8:27

story of the draft tonight as it

8:29

stands at 11, 28 PM. Uh, we're

8:31

going to spend all night talking about

8:33

this draft, but I say we go

8:35

through pick by pick and just give

8:37

our thoughts. Um, Obviously

8:40

the first pick is cam

8:42

ward not a big surprise the

8:44

thing I like about him

8:46

is his experience You know, I

8:48

really do 57 starts they

8:50

talked about that I do think

8:52

he's the best quarterback in

8:54

the draft I'm no expert but

8:56

to me it was pretty

8:58

clear and Titans get their guy

9:00

a year removed from The

9:02

owner of the team saying hey,

9:04

we've got this exciting Young

9:07

quarterback and that gives me a

9:09

lot of hope for the future.

9:11

That's how quickly it changes in the

9:13

NFL It took about a month for

9:16

them to figure out he wasn't the

9:18

guy. It's down with that celly of

9:20

the draft He has his own celebration

9:22

already. So can we come back to

9:24

this way? You think that's his celebration?

9:26

Is it I do think it is

9:28

his celebration I think he's been doing

9:30

it in college like and it's a

9:32

podcast you got to tell people with

9:34

the celebration It's it's it does look

9:36

like the out like Maybe what they

9:38

do in Alabama for the elephant trunk,

9:40

but he has his hand over his

9:43

other hand over his mouth. So I

9:45

don't know if it's like a disc.

9:47

If that's how it started, but whatever

9:49

it is, there's guys in NFL already

9:51

doing it. So I think if something

9:53

like Jalen waddle, yeah, if something went

9:55

to Alabama, I'll definitely say it. Likely

9:57

do it. Say it again. You say

9:59

it. Likely do it. I swear I've

10:01

seen it. No, yeah, yeah. That's what

10:03

I'm saying. Carolina guy. Say it again.

10:05

He's coastal Carolina, so it wouldn't be

10:07

and that's what I'm saying. I think

10:10

guys just like the celebration and they're

10:12

doing it. But I believe he was

10:14

the first one that okay, I'll go

10:16

with it. Yeah, you're the resident expert

10:18

on Sally's. I'm the one who a

10:20

year ago thought the seatbelt was a

10:22

sword in a sheath. I still think

10:24

so. I still think they're putting a

10:26

sword in a sheath. By the way,

10:28

Buffalo just drafted a corner out of

10:30

Kentucky's got Maxwell Harrison Maxwell. Do you

10:32

like him? You know much about him?

10:34

Yeah, I think I think there's a

10:37

starter starter ceiling there for sure a

10:39

little handsy at times, but he's got

10:41

the movement skills. He's got the ball

10:43

skills. Get the mitts. Get them the

10:45

mitts. And they need a jacket.

10:47

They brought they brought back Dane Jackson, but

10:49

they need a corner up to Benford. And

10:51

this was what we talked about with Buffalo

10:53

like there's something about that jacket that says

10:55

he's going to fit in Buffalo perfectly. That's

10:58

a perfect. Something about that jacket says you're

11:00

going to wear that much in Buffalo. No,

11:02

that's what I'm saying. Yeah. Well, so when

11:04

they walked off the field, having lost that

11:06

last game to Kansas City, I thought it

11:08

was a real shame. And I thought the

11:10

thing that really hurt them was their secondary. I

11:13

mean, Elam had to play a lot of

11:15

snaps. They were beat up,

11:17

but no amount of injuries could

11:19

explain away the shape of that

11:21

room. Like that room has to

11:23

be better immediately. You

11:25

invest in that room. Nolan

11:27

says he's a little bit

11:30

handsy. Um, but but throw

11:32

the kitchen sink at the

11:34

secondary. Yep. It's that situation.

11:36

So you got cam ward

11:38

one make you a fan. No,

11:41

my cam ward comp

11:43

is will levis and I'm,

11:45

uh, damn. Wow. I'm

11:47

not. I'm just not

11:49

sold on it. One of my favorite

11:51

moments from the pre draft process was, um,

11:54

friend of the program, Nate Tice. gave

11:56

a Rodney Mullen comp for

11:58

Cam Ward, Rodney Mullen, the

12:00

great skateboarder, using that analogy

12:02

to speak to kind of

12:05

the freedom, the creativity with

12:07

which he plays. So a

12:09

lot of playmaking potential, but

12:11

you got to get a

12:13

plan. For me, with the

12:15

quarterback rarely works. I like

12:17

that the comp was Patrick

12:19

Mahomes, and then they showed

12:21

a very reckless shovel pass.

12:23

The knuckle of a shovel

12:25

patch going down sort of

12:27

thing. Yeah, like I also

12:29

see levels make that move.

12:31

That's risky. Let's not

12:34

comp people to Patrick Mahomes.

12:36

Right. In lesser names,

12:38

Caleb Williams. Now an

12:40

interesting scenario here. The

12:42

Eagles who were slotted at

12:44

32 have moved up one

12:46

spot with the Chiefs.

12:48

Yes. They gave him a

12:50

fifth round pick to do so. Interesting

12:53

training with the team that you

12:55

just took behind the woodshed. Really, really

12:57

interesting. I

12:59

don't know what the details there.

13:02

Whoever Philly was worried that KC

13:04

would for Shadorah. KC. I mean,

13:06

they must have wanted the same

13:08

guy, I guess. But KC must

13:10

have. KC must not want him

13:12

bad enough. Or the Eagles and

13:14

somebody else wanted the same guy.

13:16

True, true, true. And KC's taking

13:18

full responsibility. So again, the Eagles

13:20

are on the board right now.

13:22

The pick is in. Everybody thought

13:24

there was momentum building that they'd

13:26

be taking the safety from Georgia

13:28

Yeah, he ends up going to

13:30

Baltimore. Yep Right now

13:32

we're watching with no sound. So we'll

13:34

we'll see the pics soon. So

13:36

let me ask you guys this other

13:38

safety on the board still and

13:41

the NFL like The same thing with

13:43

the hats the jerseys with the

13:45

guy's names on it. They have a

13:47

bunch of jerseys with your names

13:49

on the back or 32, assuming just

13:51

in case a trade or something

13:53

crazy happens. That's interesting. Because it's just

13:55

like, how do you know when

13:57

you're going a lot less? Nate's asking

13:59

because some of the people at

14:02

home we've noticed have 31 other hats

14:04

besides the one that they put

14:06

on their head upon being picked. So

14:08

like it's a situation where like

14:10

a bunch of people are getting, you

14:13

know, 31 other hats in

14:15

that player's hometown. So

14:17

the question is, do they have 32

14:19

jerseys made up? With that guy's last

14:21

name on it. I'm not really sure

14:23

the answer. They all have the jersey

14:25

number one for the first round. So

14:27

it's just a bunch of ones. It's

14:30

not the actual pick number. So there's

14:32

no name on it. No, but there's

14:34

a name though. And I think they're

14:36

just screen printing the name. as it

14:38

happens. Yeah, like very quick. I think

14:40

so. She's an iron. That's quite interesting.

14:42

Iron it on. Yeah. Well, yeah. So

14:45

your name on yours? Mine?

14:47

I don't remember. Surely.

14:50

I really don't remember. I

14:52

blacked that whole thing out. I

14:55

blacked that whole thing out. Okay.

14:57

So Cam Ward, he's going to

14:59

be the guy in Tennessee. The question is

15:01

obviously like, do you want him

15:03

to be the guy from day one?

15:05

I think it's pointless to, you know,

15:07

speculate right now. If I were, you

15:09

know, coach Callahan, I would want to

15:11

play Will Levis to start the season.

15:13

Like, I just think that's a good

15:15

way to go. I mean, Jayden

15:17

Daniels, he went right out there this

15:19

year, took his lumps in Tampa, you

15:22

know, they got their asses kicked.

15:24

Yeah. And then he improved like he,

15:26

he's the outlier. I like a

15:28

quarterback to start on the bench. Maybe

15:30

the first couple of games of

15:32

the season in less Tennessee really thinks

15:34

they're very good right now. And

15:36

this kid shows up in the off

15:38

season and into training camp and

15:40

looks, you know, like lights out. If

15:42

you're not sure, I always like,

15:44

you know, playing the guy, especially with

15:46

that offensive line. I know they've

15:48

invested in it. But like, until you're

15:51

sure that the table set for

15:53

the kid. Yeah. Personally, I always lean

15:55

that way. Right. Yeah. I mean,

15:57

the homes comp came up. You know,

15:59

definitely not fair, but, um,

16:01

you know, people forget he had a red shirt

16:03

year. He's got the whole year behind Alex

16:05

Smith. So, um, you know, the best

16:07

in the league, he didn't do it right

16:09

away. It wasn't throwing the fire right away. And

16:11

who knows what percentage of a success now,

16:13

you know, had to do with that. You know,

16:15

I just, I just look back at Calhand

16:17

last year, looking so frustrated. We'll love us at

16:19

times. Like there is part of that where

16:21

it's like, okay, I just don't want to deal

16:23

with that shit anymore. But, um,

16:25

You also have to consider

16:27

each coach's leash. For sure.

16:29

Right. And I don't know how long his is.

16:31

Right. But they

16:34

just switched GM's. Yep. Callahan

16:37

is in his second year. Yep.

16:39

And the first year was was

16:41

very frustrating. So, you know,

16:43

like he might not feel like he

16:45

has a tremendously long leash that could

16:47

dictate, you know, the onboarding plan for

16:49

for a cam ward. But the second

16:51

pick in the draft was the big

16:53

splash in the night. And it feels

16:55

like a no brainer, right? Like he

16:57

feels like the guy that you know

16:59

is going to be special in draft.

17:01

There's always going to be guys that

17:04

you don't know are going to be

17:06

special, end up being Hall of Famers.

17:08

But if I had to like gun

17:10

to my head, who's going to be

17:12

a Hall of Famer from from tonight?

17:14

Like and I might be biting the cheese,

17:17

but it's Travis Hunter for me. He's

17:19

a high trophy winner. And here's

17:21

the biggest, the biggest way I

17:23

think about it. Like I don't necessarily

17:25

think it's productive to think hey,

17:27

we're gonna play a guy 120 snaps

17:29

a week as somebody put it

17:31

like that to me It's hard to

17:33

imagine an NFL body holding up

17:36

and boy is he built to play

17:38

football or do something super athletic

17:40

I mean, you just see it him

17:42

moving around on stage. He looks

17:44

like Gumby like he's an outlier We

17:46

get it, but it is a

17:48

physical game Wow, he goes go to

17:50

the linebacker from the SEC Jihad

17:53

Campbell From

17:55

Bama. Wow. Jihad. Yeah.

17:57

Jihad, Jihad. I'm not

17:59

really sure. Jihad Warshad,

18:01

Jihad Ward, defensive lineman

18:03

from Philly. Now

18:06

they draft Jihad Campbell from

18:08

Bama. We'll talk more about

18:10

him in a minute. But

18:12

the point I wanted to

18:14

make was the safety in

18:16

moving up to make that

18:18

pick, relatively speaking, is that

18:20

you know you cut your

18:22

chances of the pick just

18:24

completely busting in half. Like

18:27

you really do. I mean, it sounds

18:29

stupid, but it's that simple. It's like,

18:31

what are the chances there's not a

18:33

pretty good corner in there? What

18:35

are the chances there's not a pretty good

18:37

wide receiver in there? What are the chances

18:39

there's neither? I think that the

18:41

chances of that being the reality is

18:43

very low. So like part of

18:45

it is you can look at it like,

18:47

oh, they probably want to play this guy, 120

18:49

saps a week. I don't think so. I

18:52

tend to side with the guys up up on

18:54

TV tonight who were who were kind of

18:56

throwing a little bit of cold water on that

18:58

and saying, Hey, like, listen, the NFL is

19:00

physical. It's a lot to ask of a kid.

19:02

Let's just get him out there and see

19:04

what he does well. You know, like

19:06

there were a couple of guys that were like,

19:08

he's going to play both. Well, he probably will have

19:10

some packages. If he's a corner,

19:12

they'll have packages for him. You know,

19:14

the fact that Liam Cohen's an offensive

19:16

coach doesn't guarantee for me that he's

19:18

going to be a wide receiver. But

19:20

the point is there's some there's some

19:22

version of a good football player in

19:25

there, whether it's an offensive player, defensive

19:27

player, your chances of neither being true

19:29

are pretty low. I think they're going

19:31

to be happy with the pick for

19:33

sure. Yeah. And and whether his home

19:35

position, whatever it is, offensively or defensively,

19:37

he upgrades them on either side of

19:39

the ball when Liam Cohn was talking

19:41

about that receiver room. Recently, I think

19:44

it was a couple of weeks ago.

19:46

He didn't even mention Gabe Davis' name

19:48

and there's, you know, just, you know,

19:50

some stuff to figure out with his

19:52

contract, but he might not be here

19:54

by the time the season starts. So

19:56

he gives you, you know, another receiver.

19:59

Right. You know, opposite Brian Thomas and

20:01

then on the other side the ball,

20:03

you need a corner opposite Tyson Campbell.

20:06

So he's an upgrade either way. Well,

20:08

I think they need a corner worse

20:10

than they need a wide out, but

20:12

I also understand he's an offensive coach.

20:14

some interesting choices. The linebacker

20:16

from Bama who just going to Philly, he's

20:18

shirtless with a vest on. Fits

20:23

right in. In his

20:25

b -roll footage. Yeah. No,

20:27

that's an interesting look. You should try that

20:29

one. Yeah, maybe. But the point is like,

20:32

I feel good about the pic because I just

20:34

feel like this kid's got something special in

20:36

his body. And he's also, he

20:38

seems to be a guy that just

20:40

gets how to be a pro. Like he's

20:43

gonna be a pro. Like that's the

20:45

profile on this guy's personality. Nate said something

20:47

funny earlier, having played in Jacksonville. He's

20:49

like, if this guy likes fishing and staying

20:51

locked in and just hanging around the

20:53

house, he's gonna love Jacksonville. Perfect spot. This

20:55

is the perfect spot for him. And

20:58

listen, I think having the

21:00

two and the five switched,

21:02

right? So they jumped up

21:04

from five to get to

21:06

two as far as the

21:08

compensation. 20,

21:10

25, two and a four and

21:13

a 20, 25, one. But

21:15

they also got back a couple

21:17

picks this year in there. I

21:19

don't hate it for Jacksonville. I

21:21

love it. I dislike

21:23

it. I think you make

21:25

a really good point in having

21:27

the chances of it being a

21:29

bust, but you also have your

21:31

round one picks in consecutive years,

21:33

giving one of them back to

21:35

Cleveland who Now it looks

21:38

like they're sitting in a pretty good position

21:40

after taking Mason Campbell at five and

21:42

then having two of the top four in

21:44

the second round. I thought I was

21:46

rich at the time, but I can see

21:48

the path to this guy being the

21:50

best player in the draft. Yeah, and if

21:52

he ends up being the best player

21:54

in the draft, it's not going to matter

21:56

what you're going to get him. Nobody's

21:59

ever going to be like, why'd you go

22:01

up and get the best player in

22:03

the draft? From a reputational standpoint, you also

22:05

have to look at the draft this

22:07

way. And I'm no expert on this draft

22:09

in particular, but I do know it's

22:11

not a terribly talent rich draft at the

22:13

top where the ceilings are high the

22:15

entire first round. So if there are true

22:18

blue chip players, you get them, right?

22:20

You go get them. And you say, hey,

22:22

I don't know how good the second

22:24

round talents are here. I don't know how

22:26

good the third. think I think Khan

22:28

was he was on the phone and was

22:30

like, hey, that Travis Hunter kid, do

22:33

whatever. to get him in the

22:35

building. Because at the end of

22:37

the day, even if the Jags

22:39

still be the Jags and they

22:41

disappoint everyone and lose games, Travis

22:44

Hunter is going to sell

22:46

so many seats. He's going

22:48

to sell so many jerseys,

22:50

even if it's for one

22:52

year. Like this year, he's

22:54

going to work numbers for

22:56

Jacksonville that they probably haven't

22:58

seen in a very, very

23:01

long time. If

23:03

that's the best thing that

23:05

comes from it, I'm sure shotgun

23:07

like at the very least

23:09

would be very, very happy. Well,

23:11

when's the last most anticipated

23:13

player in Jacksonville? Blaine Gabbard. No,

23:16

I had Trevor Lawrence, but I don't.

23:18

This feels different. This feels like. Oh,

23:20

yeah, this is way. This is a

23:22

big deal. I know Trevor Lawrence is

23:24

the first overall pick. Clemson

23:26

quarterback, national champion, all

23:29

that shit, bunch of hype around

23:31

him. But this feels like. This

23:33

kid, to Nate's point, could

23:35

be very popular in the city.

23:37

Well, I think one of his

23:39

best attributes is his joyfulness. He's

23:41

just always happy. Always has

23:44

a smile on his face. comfortable in

23:46

his own skin. He is who he

23:48

is. People make fun of him. People

23:50

joke on him. And the fact that

23:52

he leans into stuff, and you can

23:54

still tell, he's not shying away from

23:56

being himself. That is

23:58

big, because people, you're

24:00

the Heisman winner. your

24:03

top pick, everyone's gonna have an opinion

24:05

on you. Like at the end of the

24:07

day, what matters is football and when

24:09

it comes to football, the kid can play.

24:12

it. He's aced it. He can play

24:14

and then he's shown, like I follow this

24:16

kid, his social medias and stuff like

24:18

that before he got off of it. And

24:20

just like you're saying, this kid loves

24:22

fishing. and this kid loves

24:24

football. Fishing and football,

24:26

family fishing and football. Yeah, like

24:29

honestly, that's all of his social

24:31

media stuff and that's what he's

24:33

using his spare time. But it's

24:35

more, even in his spare time

24:37

when he's doing all this Twitch

24:39

stuff, he's showing that he's watching

24:42

tape and he's calling out guys

24:44

that he's about to play against

24:46

and he's just teaching, he's like

24:48

doing stuff that for, The

24:51

age and being in college like

24:53

yeah, you're the yeah the Heisman winner

24:55

and you went on to win the

24:57

Heisman But it kind of shows in

24:59

the groundwork and everything that you're

25:01

doing It's one thing to be exceptional

25:03

athlete both like athletic to play offense

25:05

defense special teams Whatever it may be

25:07

but like the mental side of it

25:10

like that's where it gets a lot

25:12

of guys and he just has the

25:14

whole package third Abdul Carter probably

25:16

like I'm looking at this thing and

25:18

I'm saying like hey The

25:20

ledge after Carter and Hunter from

25:22

position stamp position player standpoint seems like

25:24

it's kind of steep, right? Like

25:26

there's questions about will Campbell. There's questions

25:28

about membu There's questions about genti

25:30

being picked in the top five being

25:33

a running bag You know, like

25:35

the next guy that got picked is

25:37

a volleyball guy Yep, right who

25:39

didn't run well like this question about

25:41

everybody Abdul Carter Travis Hunter Seem

25:43

like the two blue chip guys, right?

25:45

The guys you're supposed to be

25:47

miss. So if you're the Giants, I

25:49

don't care if you already have

25:52

burns. I don't care if you already

25:54

have tibetho who they have exercised

25:56

their fifth year option on may trade

25:58

him still or they might roll

26:00

like, Hey, we've got a bunch of

26:02

first rounders and a bunch of

26:04

high paid defensive linemen and we're going

26:06

to have a deep defensive line.

26:08

Yep. Right. Like we're going to build

26:11

kind of a Philly situation. Hey,

26:13

I was on the defense and we had a

26:15

bunch of first rounders. It didn't matter. You know, like

26:18

When we drafted Aaron Donald, we

26:20

had Brockers, we had Langford, we

26:22

had all these first -rounders inside,

26:24

up front, we had first -rounders outside,

26:27

Robert Quinn, myself. We had

26:29

a bunch of first -rounders and there were people

26:31

that said, do we need another first -rounder

26:33

on that defense line? And

26:35

a lot of people were like, no, including

26:37

some people in the building. I'm not saying this

26:39

kid's gonna be Aaron Donald, but

26:41

what I am saying is, you

26:43

should, if you believe a

26:45

guy's that good, Make your strength

26:47

and even bigger strength and

26:50

that's what they're doing or they'll

26:52

ship Tibido and they'll have

26:54

bookends the will Campbell pick the

26:56

Pats like this feels like

26:58

Considering if he can play guard

27:00

at a high level I

27:02

feel like the floor isn't as

27:04

low as it could be

27:06

if the guy was only a

27:09

tackle and I still think

27:11

An elite a plus guard in

27:13

a draft like this, taken in the top

27:15

10, a guy that can play 10 years at

27:17

guard for you, if we do slide him

27:19

in the guard at some point, it's still a

27:21

win. So like in that way, I

27:24

think the versatility, the nasty streak,

27:26

we've talked about the arms. Yes,

27:29

the arms are an issue. It

27:31

just might not be for this guy. It's

27:34

just too hard to tell how people's games

27:36

are going to translate. Playing against

27:38

the body types and the body sizes

27:40

that you play in the NFL But

27:42

the arms are an issue the arms

27:44

are evidently an issue for the memboo

27:46

kid who went to the Jets a

27:48

couple picks later. Yep now Nate you

27:50

pointed this out earlier The defensive tackle

27:53

from Michigan Might be the highest picked

27:55

white defensive tackle. I said he's a

27:57

great white. He's the greatest I said,

27:59

I don't think that's I don't think

28:01

that's the reality because I had to

28:03

look back, but it was like Steve

28:05

Entman in the early 90s. Like, you

28:07

know, there were some white boys that

28:10

they drafted high. I

28:12

didn't tackle like 40 years ago.

28:15

But in a long time, this century

28:17

for sure. This is monumental. Yeah, you

28:19

got to get you got to get

28:21

his jersey for your kids. No, I

28:24

don't. I really don't. And

28:26

Graham back to back. Might

28:28

be the and it's not just

28:30

a white thing might be

28:32

the two least athletic looking people

28:34

taking consecutively no question No

28:36

question That's crazy, and I think

28:38

it's not a white thing.

28:40

I mean just walking across the

28:42

stage. You look like regular

28:44

guys I mean listen the kid

28:46

Mason Graham's not some like

28:48

combine superstar. He he's not some

28:50

like massive kid either He

28:52

plays with good technique. You can

28:54

tell he plays a good

28:56

technique. He plays hard Um,

28:58

he's a polarizing guy, I think

29:00

from, from a standpoint of like

29:02

what the scouts thought about him.

29:04

Yeah. Um, but she ended up

29:06

with, uh, with a, uh,

29:08

a defensive tackle from Michigan going

29:10

to play in, in Ohio. And,

29:13

uh, that's, that's got to be

29:15

pretty damn interesting for a guy

29:17

that, that was, uh, yeah. He'll

29:19

fit. It all go blue. He'll

29:22

fit great in shorts of schemes

29:24

of three tech, just one gap

29:26

and cutting loose. What was I

29:28

saying he rush rush crush rush

29:30

crush close. Yeah You know like

29:32

if you play with your hands

29:35

and you like playing blocks sometimes

29:37

the Schwartz defense might not be

29:39

for you like I you know

29:41

He puts disruption. Yeah way up

29:43

there, you know So if this

29:45

guy likes getting down the middle

29:48

of people using his hands an

29:50

adjustment for him might be he's

29:52

got to get on some edges

29:54

But I I like the way

29:56

he uses his hands. He looks

29:58

technically sound But again, not like

30:01

some overpowering talent or you know,

30:03

huge kid Genti goes to the

30:05

Raiders. That's like not a shock.

30:07

Yeah, Pete Carroll taking your running

30:09

back. Yeah, of course Hey, that's

30:11

like a borderline fetish. That's a

30:14

fetish for him. He's also got

30:16

a Gino Smith fetish that he

30:18

developed late in life Yep, so

30:20

the both those things happening for

30:22

him. Supposedly he had the Diamond

30:24

Ghiblet Crocs He did Yep Diamond

30:27

diamond studded Crocs. I mean they

30:29

pointed that out called giblets Giblets

30:31

giblets. That's what they're called giblets

30:33

for your crocs and stick the

30:35

giblets and the holes in their

30:37

crocs are like little Giblets baseballs

30:40

and team logos and shit Luke

30:42

has like the whole AFC East

30:44

on his right foot like Luke's

30:48

Luke's How do you feel

30:50

about ace running back for a

30:52

team with quite a few

30:54

holes Got a lot of holes,

30:56

but they think they're further

30:58

along than I think most people

31:00

do Yeah, like I think

31:02

this team could be competitive quicker

31:04

than people People

31:06

I think there's two teams in my mind

31:08

and I'm gonna go back and probably

31:10

eat the fuck out of my words at

31:12

some point Especially if will Campbell can't

31:14

play but I think there's two teams to

31:16

me that might play above what people

31:18

think they will this year and that could

31:20

be the Raiders I think that the

31:22

New England Patriots could be pretty competitive Yeah,

31:24

you know like you talk about teams

31:26

whose wind totals are probably gonna be in

31:28

the 7 -9 range. Yep New York Giants.

31:30

Yeah, I think the O -Lines. I think

31:32

I'm bullish on all these shitty teams. Yeah,

31:35

I'm taken. The Raiders,

31:37

I think their O -Lines better than people

31:39

think. I thought they're actually better in

31:41

past pro than what Gino had in Seattle

31:43

last year. Yeah. And you

31:45

have a blue chip tight end. Now you add

31:47

what you're hoping is a blue chip back.

31:50

They could muddy up some spots. I mean, a

31:52

receiver room is bad shape, but. It's not

31:54

good. But you

31:56

have some pieces. But you know, you know,

31:58

Gino had Everybody

32:00

to throw to nobody to block. Yeah,

32:02

last year. I think

32:04

he would take the protection at this

32:06

point for sure over like, you know,

32:08

I got five people to throw to

32:10

but we got no offensive identity. We

32:13

don't have a run game. Looks

32:15

like they got a run game. Looks like

32:17

the protection is going to be better than

32:19

what he what he dealt with last year.

32:21

And one thing that he's going to have

32:23

that he didn't really have in Seattle is

32:25

he's going to have an all world tight

32:27

end. So, you know, like

32:29

you talk about teams that have built

32:31

their Offenses around tight ends like look

32:33

at Buffalo We made a big deal

32:35

about their supporting cast outside and in

32:37

some situations that bit them last year

32:39

a little bit if we're being honest

32:41

But for the most part and they

32:43

don't have a they don't have a

32:45

guy like the fucking guy in Vegas,

32:47

right? I mean they were building their

32:49

offense around King Cade and Knox You

32:51

put those guys together no disrespect to

32:53

him. I still take Brock Bowers for

32:55

sure Like, he's an exciting player, so. Regarding

32:58

Memboo and Will Campbell,

33:01

were you aware of the length of a

33:03

guy's arms and the week leading up? And

33:05

if a guy has shorter arms, what do

33:07

you, what does that mean for you? You

33:09

can tell. I mean, you can tell by

33:11

the way they set. Sometimes you can tell

33:13

by, I mean, you can tell early in

33:15

the game. And really, it's just,

33:18

I have access to the chest. And

33:20

I don't have to worry about getting

33:22

punched at the wrong time. Like, you

33:24

know, Pass rush is so much timing.

33:26

It's so much landmarks. It's knowing when

33:28

I expect to sink my move, whether

33:30

it's a rip, whether it's a swipe, you

33:32

know, and I was a swipe guy. And

33:34

when you play certain guys with really long arms,

33:36

early in a game, what you'd realize, and I

33:38

don't know if you ever noticed this, a

33:40

gardenate, like when a guy would have longer arms

33:43

than you thought, you'd be on your second step,

33:45

you know, expecting to sink your move

33:47

on third step and you get hidden

33:49

ahead and you're like, damn, this guy's

33:51

got some length. And so that can

33:53

be a real problem. I was curious

33:55

what you guys think about this. I've

33:57

heard it said that giving up an

33:59

inch in arm length like the way

34:01

you're talking about making like looking at

34:04

your matchups feels like a half a

34:06

foot. It absolutely does. For defensive linemen,

34:08

it's easier to overcome because I was

34:10

the longest arm guy. But what I

34:12

could do is get sideways and go

34:14

with the one with the long arm.

34:16

Yeah. And like people, well, why does

34:18

that make your arms longer? Well, you

34:20

turn your surface number one when you

34:22

go long arm. So guys can't punch

34:24

your chest and you extend that lever

34:26

like all of a sudden now your

34:28

arm straight out in front of your

34:30

body is X amount of inches. When

34:32

I go like this, I also have

34:34

the width of my shoulder. And

34:36

so it's a subtle thing. But when you talk

34:38

about gaining an inch or two, right, like my

34:40

lever gets longer. I sound like the

34:43

guy on the Internet who goes viral

34:45

saying like what I've done is I've I've

34:47

I've broken on my day into three

34:49

separate days. You think I'm crazy? You're crazy.

34:51

My first day starts six a .m. to

34:53

12 p .m. My second day is 12

34:55

p .m. to 6 p .m. So I've,

34:57

so what I'm doing is I'm stacking days.

35:01

That's what I sound like explaining along

35:03

on you guys. My arm is actually

35:05

this long, but now it's this long.

35:07

But that's the point is like defensive

35:09

linemen can actually overcome that stuff. Not

35:11

so much to the offensive line. It's

35:13

harder. I'd have to talk to an

35:16

offensive lineman with shorter arms. I

35:18

asked Daniel Jeremiah about it and

35:20

he seemed to think like he is

35:22

an outlier. You talk about Will

35:24

Campbell or Membu like, but. if you

35:26

have the ability to play guard

35:28

at a high level, which is not

35:30

as difficult in the NFL, you

35:32

know, like it just isn't, then

35:35

at least you can protect the

35:37

floor of the pick. Yeah. And

35:39

reputationally from a GM standpoint, and

35:41

even like, listen, there's

35:43

some guys that would have killed for a

35:45

great guard last year, late in the season.

35:47

100%. Sam Darnold, people like that. You know

35:49

where the middle the pocket is just caving

35:51

right every game Caleb played last year Caleb

35:54

middle pressure like middle pressures Middle pressure is

35:56

a big deal for a young quarterback. It's

35:58

a big deal So if a guy has

36:00

to kick in the garden a big deal

36:02

look at a guy like JC Latham in

36:04

Tennessee Yep, maybe he has to play some

36:06

guard at some point right like it's not

36:08

gonna be the end of the world You

36:10

just have to be pretty good at it

36:12

when you get there. So,

36:14

um For sure. That's all

36:16

I have to say about that

36:18

one. T -Mac win eight to Carolina.

36:20

Okay, so hear me out. Our

36:24

wide receiver we drafted last year while

36:26

he's an electric personality and I love

36:28

the horse videos and everything has not

36:30

been great at catching the football. So

36:32

let's go draft a wide receiver that

36:35

can't run. So we've got,

36:37

we've got a guy that hasn't caught

36:39

the football and that was, no, no. I'm

36:42

just going to tell you. I'm not saying this

36:44

isn't going to be a good pick. I haven't

36:46

watched the guy enough. But the

36:48

fact that he didn't run, you hear the guys

36:50

talk about, he didn't run a great time at the

36:52

combine. You talk about not being able to separate

36:54

in college. The separation becomes more

36:56

of a problem. And we talked about contested

36:58

catches. Okay, like he's a

37:00

good contested catch guy. Well, part of

37:02

that might be because he doesn't

37:04

separate, right? And so he

37:06

has to make contested catches all

37:08

the damn time. The

37:11

funniest thing has been hearing the

37:13

discourse around volleyball thing. Like

37:15

NFL is such a sport that if a

37:17

guy's good at another sport, God forbid it's

37:19

one that we typically associate with women playing

37:21

it. Like it's a fucking, it's the kiss

37:23

of death. Like this guy might be soft.

37:25

I doubt he's soft. Like he's probably a

37:27

pretty tough kid. He is the kid. Didn't

37:29

he say he doesn't watch film? Was

37:31

that him? Hmm. Can you

37:33

Google that? There was a guy that made waves

37:35

before the draft set. But why would but

37:37

why would a volleyball player like why would you

37:40

think about that like being bad thing? I

37:42

think it's just it's literally. It's

37:46

it's macho culture. Yes,

37:48

just like the. But I

37:50

have you ever watched like male volleyball? That's

37:53

just crazy. Like those guys are like

37:55

very, very electric. I'm sure

37:57

it's amazing. They're like very, very.

38:00

And like Chris's point, I think I've

38:02

only watched female volleyball. Right. You

38:04

know, you know, you don't watch like

38:06

during Olympics and stuff, like when

38:08

it's on like the men's and stuff.

38:10

Not like maybe, maybe, bro, like

38:13

that ball be getting spiked in people's

38:15

faces. But guys are like, you're

38:17

really jumping in kind of like, I

38:19

don't know, putting your face in

38:21

the fan in a sense per reddit,

38:23

per reddit. Ted

38:25

McMillan does not watch football and does

38:28

not watch his own film at his

38:30

own time. So that was

38:32

a great admission, but he must be

38:34

able to play right because he

38:36

didn't run well. He's literally severed severance

38:38

severed individual. Yeah. Fucking

38:42

he gets home at night. People

38:45

are criticizing his any. He

38:47

doesn't care. He's like that

38:49

guy's a fucking piece of shit. That's

38:51

the what you call we need to run

38:53

try to do. a severance football skit.

38:55

Severance football skit. Yeah. Like what if you

38:57

didn't know like you were a first

38:59

round pick and like you just came home

39:02

and you were like, why the fuck

39:04

is my neck hurt? Football's

39:09

on. No thanks. Why do I

39:11

have this? What's this lipstick on

39:13

your collar? What's always a pro

39:16

football player today? What's

39:18

this bandaid on my butt? Yeah.

39:20

Oh, yeah. I got a torn all shot at

39:22

work. No, I mean honestly dude

39:25

the film thing it's so easy for

39:27

me to like high horse and be like

39:29

You have to watch I watch films

39:31

so fucking much Sometimes it didn't help at

39:33

all. I know it helps. I know

39:35

watching films important But I also know a

39:37

lot of guys and maybe this is

39:39

what I want to tell you There's a

39:41

lot of guys I play with that

39:43

I can guarantee you didn't watch film a

39:46

lot of skill guys I can guarantee

39:48

you did not watch any fucking film on

39:50

their own time. So like listen Do

39:52

I think you should watch film? Don't

39:54

try this at home. Absolutely. Do not

39:56

try this at home. If you're a

39:59

guy who's trying to make money in

40:01

the NFL, don't then get caught saying,

40:03

I don't watch film. But

40:05

I'm not going to say that that's going to

40:07

keep him from being the player that they drafted. It's

40:10

just like, listen, another

40:12

thing is it tells me they

40:14

think Bryce is the guy. Just

40:17

trying to build around Bryce a little

40:19

bit more, which is a good deal. So

40:22

you end up with, it goes

40:24

Membu, then it goes Ted McMillan,

40:26

and then we end up with

40:28

Kelvin Banks Jr. from Texas. That's

40:30

where my worst seat kicks in.

40:32

If anybody saw the baby that

40:34

was sitting with Kelvin Banks Jr.,

40:36

and if it is Kelvin Banks

40:38

Jr.'s baby, congratulations,

40:41

beautiful baby. The baby

40:44

was getting shaken a

40:46

little bit during the

40:48

celebration. Like the

40:50

baby was getting shaken a little bit.

40:52

And like they shook the baby

40:54

when they were clapping. And then they

40:56

came back again and clap some

40:58

more. And the baby had enough. The

41:01

baby just projectile vomited all over

41:03

whoever was holding the baby. So we're

41:05

see the baby on the Kelvin

41:07

Banks Junior set. The

41:09

Texas kid that goes

41:11

nine to the Saints. And

41:14

that was probably the last place for a while.

41:16

Once Shadoor Sanders didn't go to the Saints, you

41:18

were like, this could this could go a

41:20

while. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. And I think with

41:22

that pick too, you kind of see like, there's

41:25

a compounding effect of missing

41:27

on first round picks at premium

41:29

spots like last year with

41:31

the Jets, taking for Shaanu.

41:34

That was the effect of missing Makai Bechton

41:36

however many years prior. You know,

41:39

like this, this pending thing hasn't shaken out

41:41

for him. So now they're going back, they're

41:43

going to attack with banks, you know,

41:45

pending. maybe you can kick inside, maybe

41:47

Banks plays inside, however it shakes out.

41:51

It's just one of those situations where you see, know,

41:54

you mess up, you mess a high pick, you're

41:56

gonna be paying for it years later too. Yeah, and

41:58

you know, Penning can still, every once in a

42:00

while come in and like drive a defensive back into

42:02

the bench. Right. You know,

42:04

help his team that way. Pick

42:07

up a 15 -yard penalty. Thuaga,

42:09

last year, short armed, oh, it's a

42:11

blind man. Yeah. It's in New Orleans. Yeah.

42:13

And they say Banks can, can Pop

42:16

into guard to listen gives that flex

42:18

also what you saw tonight was like a

42:20

lot of big guys getting drafted in

42:22

a draft where there's not a lot of

42:24

high -level talent and it's a starter draft

42:26

like I like going out and Getting

42:28

as many big guys as possible when in

42:30

doubt like get some big guys that

42:32

you think are good enough to play for

42:34

you because those guys don't grow on

42:36

trees and You know some of these guys

42:38

hit You know, they're five, seven year starters

42:40

for their teams. Like that's a very

42:42

valuable thing up front to have on the

42:44

offensive line. Guys that can play multiple

42:46

positions. The whole thing where it got

42:48

interesting to me was a 10. Everybody,

42:50

myself included in love with the

42:52

Warren kid from Penn State. The

42:55

Bears go with with

42:57

the receiver tight end type.

43:00

Coast and level. Yeah. Colton,

43:02

Colston, Loveland, Colston,

43:04

Loveland. The kids impressive

43:07

looking. Yep. He really is. I

43:09

don't I don't like he's got

43:11

racked skills that look a little

43:13

bow or Z. Yeah, for sure.

43:15

You know, like I hate going

43:17

like with a comp that quickly

43:19

after you find, you know, totally.

43:22

But but he's that type of player. Yeah,

43:24

I think I think something else that jumps

43:26

out from his tape to is is the

43:28

option routes. Like it's so impressive to see

43:30

a college guy being able to execute on

43:32

those. And that translates right away, like looking

43:34

at the Raiders tape. in September early on

43:37

they were a lot of their passing game

43:39

was going to Bowers and those option routes.

43:41

I think you'll see that a lot with

43:43

them. Be a loveland is

43:45

there's probably two guys like categorically

43:47

called professional route runners in this

43:49

class. It's him and it's golden

43:51

the receiver out of Texas. So

43:53

which surprised me that he went

43:55

later. Yeah. And but you know,

43:57

sticking with the Chicago pick Ben

43:59

Johnson want to get better in

44:01

the middle feel we talked about

44:03

that. Um, and it also

44:05

says something about how good you

44:07

think you are. Yeah. Right. Like to

44:10

me and, and I think Ian

44:12

and Ryan are right. Like this roster's

44:14

got a lot of talent. You

44:16

know, like tight end feels like a

44:18

luxury position when you've got commit

44:20

for the moment. And honestly, there are

44:22

other places you could probably fill

44:25

holes, but this kid feels like a

44:27

guy with a high ceiling in

44:29

the passing game. And if you think

44:31

you're building a monster, like having

44:33

a really dominant tight end. where a

44:35

guy can go out and catch

44:37

the football. When you got guys outside

44:40

who can catch screens, run after

44:42

the catch in DJ Moore, you've got

44:44

young guys in a dunes that

44:46

you like. You're rounding out a

44:48

pretty impressive passing offense of this guy's is

44:50

a hit. And I think the quarterbacks will

44:52

be good next year. And last

44:54

year, Ben Johnson in Detroit,

44:56

third highest rate of 12 personnel.

44:59

And when you're Ben Johnson and you have

45:01

so many coaching options, During

45:03

that process you probably say hey, how

45:05

much of a say will I have

45:07

in the draft? And this

45:10

pic probably shows he had a

45:12

pretty big one. He had some

45:14

say He had some say but

45:16

it is interesting Loveland first before

45:18

Tyler Warren Yeah, I'm Penn State.

45:20

Yeah, that's the best seat the

45:22

two big old fucking. I don't

45:25

know if there were stags or

45:27

what they were many many pointed

45:29

they were the big 12 pointers

45:31

and like the taxidermy situation at

45:33

the Loveland House was out of

45:35

control and they had a front

45:38

row seat and they were probably

45:40

very proud as well of their

45:42

past catching tight. I didn't know

45:44

they're like, like, beers get that

45:46

big. Oh, they get big. Yeah.

45:50

Like those were big. Oh, yeah. And

45:52

I want to know what you thought.

45:54

Those were bigger than the ones in

45:56

my town. Remember, I went to the

45:58

little the Elks Club for breakfast. They

46:00

also could have been Elk. You saying

46:03

they had elk on the wall there?

46:05

No, they had, they had like, they

46:07

had elk, deer, moose heads.

46:09

They had a bunch of stuff

46:11

in there. than moose though. The

46:13

moose is the biggest one. No,

46:15

no, it wasn't, but like those

46:17

look like they were almost as

46:19

big as the moose head. Those

46:21

are some trophies, man. North American

46:23

male deer usually weigh 150 to

46:25

300 pounds, mature bucks. Over

46:29

400 pounds have been

46:31

recorded in the northernmost reaches

46:34

of their native range,

46:36

namely Minnesota, Ontario and

46:38

Manitoba Now when it comes

46:40

to another 300 pounder

46:42

Michael Williams I mean, it

46:44

looks to be almost all of 300 pounds, but

46:46

he's a defensive end. He's an edge player. This

46:49

guy is a prototypical defensive end. I don't

46:51

mean the way that they throw around edge all

46:53

willy -nilly now, and it could be a 230

46:55

pound guy that doesn't set the edge. It

46:57

could be a guy that's in a two point

46:59

stance. I'm talking about this

47:01

is a throwback defensive end. His body

47:03

type, I love it. The Niners,

47:05

you know, getting Nick Bosa a younger

47:07

bookend. They've been throwing a lot

47:09

at this position, whether it's a veteran

47:11

with draft picks. This is hopefully

47:13

the answer that can play three downs

47:15

for them, right? And really set

47:17

an edge. If you have two really

47:19

good edge setting ends, you can

47:21

bottle up the run game, man. And

47:23

I'm just a big fan of

47:25

guys with that body type. Listen,

47:27

he might not end up being

47:29

the most instinctive rusher. That's kind

47:31

of the book on him. But

47:34

if a guy is going to give

47:36

me three downs, I'm excited about having him

47:38

on my team in a draft like

47:40

this. Listen, Trayvon Walker. It was a guy

47:42

that like, I have been, I

47:45

mean, when, I'll admit it, I thought he was going

47:47

to be the best defensive end in that class. I did.

47:49

I thought it went in the right order. I

47:52

didn't think Hutch was going to be

47:54

a slouch or anything, but I thought

47:56

Trevon would be the best one. It

47:58

hasn't turned out to be the case.

48:00

It's taken him some time, but the

48:02

thing I liked about him that gives

48:04

him a chance, he's a big pro

48:06

body guy. Like he's a big defensive

48:08

end. He's a true defensive end. And

48:10

another Georgia guy, coincidentally, This kid's got

48:12

a shot. By the way, Trayvon Walker,

48:14

now I know Hutch was hurt last

48:16

year, 24 sacks, only four behind Aiden

48:18

Hutchison at this point in this career.

48:20

So he's been no slouch, good player.

48:23

This kid, big pro body type. I

48:25

like the Georgia guys. But

48:27

production was a question, 14 sacks

48:29

for this guy in three seasons

48:31

at Georgia, but still young, only

48:33

20 years old. Rare physical

48:35

traits rare you can tell watching is

48:37

a cold traits and the same

48:40

thing with the other edge guy that

48:42

got taken a few picks later

48:44

from from Georgia Dallas at 12 Tyler

48:46

Booker Bama guard interesting question for

48:48

you at home go back and tell

48:50

me what the hit rate on

48:52

Bama offense of linemen is it's very

48:54

hit or miss like we can

48:56

go back to the Cyrus Quan Joe's

48:58

of the world the the the

49:00

leather woods the you know the flukeers

49:02

like And then there's been some

49:04

ones that have hit. There's been Evan

49:06

Niels that haven't worked out, but

49:08

like not yet. Not yet,

49:10

you say. But this

49:13

kid looks to be, as you

49:15

put it, Nolan, a really

49:17

good gap scheme guy. Sure. And

49:20

I like the guard play

49:22

that Dallas has. Oh,

49:24

yeah. Now, you're going to need that tackle to

49:26

work out the guy you got from Oklahoma last

49:28

year. He, he, he, yeah, Guyton

49:31

needed. He needs some time.

49:34

And Terence Steele is a bit of

49:36

a liability against an elite rusher over

49:38

there left -hand. So you kind of have

49:40

to help both tackles, right? Like

49:43

these guards really have to hold their own.

49:45

And I'm a big fan of Tyler Smith.

49:48

You know, another Tyler and Tyler Booker coming

49:50

from Bama. You

49:53

know, that guy ran down the hallway. I

49:55

love his energy. He's from up in

49:57

Connecticut. Tri -State Nate, your neck

49:59

of the woods, right? So

50:01

we like him. We like

50:03

the energy. Tyler Steen on

50:05

draft day. Tyler Steen, Bama,

50:07

Philly, Tyler Tyler, Landon Dickerson.

50:09

There's a good one. But

50:12

of course, those two guys that

50:14

you mentioned have both flourished under

50:16

the tutelage of Jeff Stoutland. So

50:19

like name me a Bama offensive

50:21

lineman picked high that hasn't had Jeff

50:23

Stoutland. It hasn't gotten to Stoutland

50:25

yet. Yeah, right? Yeah, I don't know.

50:27

I could be missing a couple.

50:29

There's probably an obvious one. I think

50:31

you're spot on. The Finns, man,

50:33

I stood up and screamed at TV.

50:36

If Shaddur Sanders ends up being

50:38

a good player or Jackson Dart

50:40

ends up being a good player.

50:42

This was your chance to get

50:45

out of, you know, purgatory Miami

50:47

because like, listen, here's

50:49

the thing about the Miami

50:51

Dolphins. They beat bad

50:53

teams. That's that's always been

50:55

their thing. They're not gonna play 17 good

50:57

football teams every year. They're not gonna

50:59

be picking up at the top of the

51:01

draft. Two is a pretty

51:03

decent quarterback. He's gonna play into the middle

51:05

at the very least. So when are

51:07

you gonna have an opportunity? Now,

51:09

I know this is pick 13. You could

51:11

conceivably be here again, but like I

51:13

thought this would be a chance if you

51:16

liked any of the quarterbacks to maybe

51:18

shock the world. Now, Dolphins fans are gonna

51:20

tell you, shove it up your ass,

51:22

Chris. We get it. You don't like our

51:24

quarterback. Next

51:26

pick Colts Tyler Warren love it.

51:28

I love it. I love it. I

51:30

love it They talked about the

51:33

last time they drafted the tight end

51:35

the first round it was it

51:37

was Dallas Clark 44 and they're right

51:39

in Virginia. He's from Adley High

51:41

School Mechanicsville north of Richmond. You gotta

51:43

come to the river and kick

51:45

it Yeah, we got to get a

51:48

Tyler Warren come come come join

51:50

us on the James River in Scottsville

51:52

It'd be a great time. It's

51:54

only a less than an hour away,

51:56

maybe for you. But

51:58

how about from catching

52:01

footballs from Drew Aller

52:03

in a Penn State

52:05

offense to catching footballs

52:07

from Danny Dimes and

52:10

Anthony Richardson? What

52:12

did this guy do in his last life

52:14

to deserve all this? Yeah. Um, this kid,

52:16

I think catch radius important. I think he's

52:18

going to be, I think he's going to

52:20

be a fucking stud. I think he looks

52:22

groggy out there sometimes. Yeah. Oh yeah. I'm

52:25

a big fan of this kid. Yeah. He's

52:27

a football player, a little

52:29

bit surprising that, uh, he wasn't the

52:31

first title off the board, but if

52:33

you wanted a real route running, kind

52:35

of past catching only guy primarily than

52:37

that was your guy in Chicago. Yeah.

52:40

In Loveland, but, but, uh, Tyler Warren,

52:42

he's a stud. Yeah. He's a stud.

52:44

I think that order of those two

52:46

goings kind of like DJ talk on

52:48

the show the other day about how

52:50

like with this being a starter solid

52:52

starter draft teams are going to stack

52:54

their boards with everybody getting the same

52:57

grade. Yes. Boards are stacked on like

52:59

system fit. Yep. So it's kind of

53:01

like, you know, Ben Johnson that that

53:03

Loveland flavor was was more his than

53:05

Warren. Yep. No question. And maybe half

53:07

the teams had Warren stacked above Loveland.

53:09

It's just no question. just like that

53:11

that kind of year. And listen, if

53:14

you'll remember the last time I was

53:16

surprised. And of course, I wasn't a

53:18

college football expert. But when Laporta

53:20

went ahead of who was the

53:22

tight end that we really liked out

53:24

of was it Notre Dame? Michael

53:27

Mayer, Michael Mayer, who we thought

53:29

was just and he is a

53:31

good player. But they took Laporta

53:33

first. Well, who had Laporta and

53:35

coached him to. into being

53:37

one of the best young tight

53:39

ends of the game is Ben

53:41

Johnson that offense. So interesting that

53:43

they end up with the surprising

53:45

tight end going first in this

53:47

draft as well. The Falcons Jalen

53:49

Walker. I love this. I've seen

53:51

this guy run around. I'm a

53:53

fan of his. You know, like

53:55

I haven't watched a bunch of

53:57

game tape on him, but I've

53:59

seen him work bags. I've seen

54:01

him run around dip. I've seen

54:03

him accelerate out of a break,

54:06

so to speak, like, you

54:08

know, that top down rush ability.

54:10

This guy's fucking he's juicy. He's

54:12

got juice, man. Yeah. So I'm

54:14

excited about this guy and I'm

54:16

excited about the Falcons finally getting

54:19

after the pass rushing part of

54:21

it because they have tried over

54:23

the last couple of years and

54:25

really is they outlined since Vic

54:27

Beasley to solidify their pass rush

54:29

and. Last year was anemic and

54:31

we knew it would be, right?

54:33

When they went Pentax, it's so

54:35

funny. Remember when we said, Hey, Pentax

54:37

is the right pick. And

54:39

everybody's like, you're an idiot. They don't have

54:42

any pass rushers. Well, had they gone out

54:44

and drafted a pass rusher last year, where

54:46

would they be? Right where they are. Right.

54:48

So you're not going to be sorry you

54:50

drafted Pentax. If he if he's anything like the

54:53

guy we saw at the end of the

54:55

season last year. And guess what? The pass rusher

54:57

could wait. You're still in phase. You

54:59

got two of them in the first

55:01

round. You trade up to get James

55:04

Pierce from Tennessee. It looks like a

55:06

stud to me. Like I'm

55:08

excited about this. Raheem Morris,

55:10

shout out. We like

55:12

the Falcons, we like Raheem. So

55:14

we're excited about this one. yeah,

55:17

last season the Falcons ranked 31st in

55:19

pressure eight. So clearly a spot they

55:21

want to address. They want to change

55:23

that number going in 25. I'm excited.

55:25

I'm excited about what they did. I'm

55:27

a defensive lineman watching them draft two

55:29

defensive linemen, but it's like, hey, we're

55:31

not fucking around. Let's just throw the

55:33

kitchen sink at our problem. The

55:36

Cardinals, Walter Nolan, high

55:38

ceiling defensive tackle from from

55:40

Ole Miss. Actually, if

55:42

you remember, this is going

55:44

to be like ancient history for y 'all.

55:46

But there was a guy they drafted at

55:49

Ole Miss back in the day. Robert

55:51

in Kim dichi, am I saying

55:53

that name correctly? Yeah, they were trying

55:55

to make him the the the heir

55:57

apparent to Darnell docket and in the

55:59

same way ironically he was very polarizing

56:01

people were like, yeah, I just don't

56:03

know if he's consistently gonna bring it

56:06

if he's and yada yada and

56:08

the guy looked the part. Holy shit.

56:10

He looked the part But he never

56:12

really, he never really panned out. Hopefully

56:15

they're getting a different result with Walter

56:17

Nolan. I think one thing that's really good

56:19

is, as you guys pointed out, guess

56:21

who's back? Kaleis Campbell. He can help bring

56:23

this kid along with consistency and being

56:25

a pro is a concern. He'll have a

56:28

great guy in his room, right, to

56:30

help him along. And then don't forget about

56:32

the fact they brought in Joshua this

56:34

offseason. So another guy who's one at the

56:36

highest level, who's won a Super Bowl,

56:38

who's been a part of a very good

56:40

defensive line. They are setting

56:42

a culture up front that's

56:44

gonna be able to onboard this

56:46

guy if he can play

56:48

He'll be able to play there

56:50

and I think it'll be

56:52

a good fit for Ganon's defense.

56:55

Yep, just with his body

56:57

type He gives that twitched up

56:59

three tech. Yep Lateral movement

57:01

important So

57:03

then we, again, we get more defensive

57:05

linemen as we get into the second

57:07

half of the first round with the

57:09

Bengals. We knew they were gonna defense. They

57:11

go Shamar Stewart, Al

57:13

Golden, my old coach, their

57:16

defensive coordinator. Learned tonight

57:18

that this guy, Shamar Stewart, has longer

57:20

arms than LeBron James. All right, I'm

57:22

sold. The

57:24

whole conversation about arm length. This

57:26

kid's got a lot of tools. All right,

57:28

Bengals, who's gonna coach him up? Who's gonna

57:30

help him along? Trey Hendrickson,

57:32

he's got to be in the building, man. You

57:34

can't drop this guy into a room with

57:36

a bunch of guys that don't, that haven't learned

57:38

how to win rushes, right? Like they're going

57:40

to be more defensive picks. They're going to throw

57:42

more shit at the wall trying to make

57:44

something stick over the next couple of days. Defensively

57:47

for the Bengals, but this is a good start. Yep.

57:50

Seahawks, they solidify the

57:53

front. This guy, Gray Zable.

57:55

Great name. Looks like a total guard. They

57:57

played all up and down the line, which

57:59

is a good thing. Like it's nice. The

58:01

guy can play different spots, but I think

58:03

he's a guard North Dakota State University. High

58:06

character guy could have left for more money,

58:08

but it ended up wanting to stay and

58:10

play with his brother, won a championship. Guys

58:13

like that, like the Quinion Mitchell

58:15

thing, like there's something to when

58:17

a guy stays put and finishes

58:19

like that to me says something

58:21

about his character, the grit of

58:23

the player. You know, we talked

58:25

about Quinion Mitchell last year where

58:27

I was hearing rumors at Eagles

58:29

camp that he could have gone

58:31

and played at any number of

58:33

really good paying NIL type programs,

58:35

stayed at Toledo and decided to

58:37

finish it out with his guys.

58:39

Like that's a good, good deal.

58:41

And then he had the settlers

58:44

of Catan board game. like displayed

58:46

almost like he wants to Katana

58:48

to give him the bag. The

58:50

guy who started settlers of Katana lives

58:52

in Charlottesville, Virginia, by the way. Oh,

58:55

I'm told that like every four or

58:57

five years. Yeah, Bo Allen's a big

58:59

fan of the game. But I like

59:01

this great Zabel guy. And

59:03

I would say the hit rate on North

59:05

Dakota State players and South Dakota State players

59:07

actually pretty good. Yeah, it feels like every

59:09

year they put out a good pro. Yeah,

59:11

they put out some good pros. You get

59:13

your trail answers. But you

59:15

could get an MVP season kind of Carson

59:17

Wentz. You could get a Dallas Goddard

59:20

from the Dakotas. Right. You never know.

59:22

Dallas Goddard, by the way, might be on the trading

59:24

block. I hate to see that happen.

59:26

He's one of my favorite Eagles. What

59:28

do you think the population of Pierre,

59:30

South Dakota is? We went through that.

59:34

So much for that alley -oop. I

59:36

can't remember. 14 ,000.

59:38

14 ,000 Pierre with two

59:40

Rs. That's right. Capital

59:43

City. So then we get into Tampa

59:45

Bay, Emeka

59:47

Ibuka, okay? This is a wide

59:49

receiver. We're looking at

59:51

this guy and saying, hey, another wide receiver,

59:53

but it makes a lot of sense because

59:55

it feels like 10 years ago, but God

59:57

went hurt his knee again this year, right?

59:59

And Evans is getting older. Like

1:00:01

there is gonna be a post -God when

1:00:03

in Evans world. I love McMillan. I

1:00:06

think that was a really good

1:00:08

pickup last year. Yeah, this kid's gonna

1:00:10

add another another another weapon for

1:00:12

Baker Mayfield and somebody you can learn

1:00:14

under these guys and Also, I'll

1:00:17

be a injuries a part of the

1:00:19

game. These guys are older Godwin

1:00:21

coming off an ACL like you don't

1:00:23

know how he's gonna respond Yep,

1:00:25

I don't mind this exact could go

1:00:27

pass rush for sure totally exact

1:00:29

same size as Godwin this guy receivers

1:00:31

coming all different shapes and sizes

1:00:34

different skill sets. We're trying to picture

1:00:36

this guy Think JSN what you

1:00:38

just watched in Seattle last year strong

1:00:40

smart zone coverage killer in the

1:00:42

middle of the field. I

1:00:44

Mean on it Swerdy had the

1:00:46

same thought. It's like I don't

1:00:49

know if it's just a cookie

1:00:51

cutter calm But I know how

1:00:53

state Ohio State the whole thing.

1:00:55

I think this is gonna pay

1:00:57

dividends for them I trust I

1:00:59

trust Tampa's program. I question their

1:01:02

ceiling But I trust the program,

1:01:04

you know the

1:01:06

Broncos, man. Broncos going

1:01:08

out and getting another corner and

1:01:10

baron. This is another like, Hey,

1:01:12

we got a strength. Fuck it. Let's make it

1:01:14

stronger. Double down. Yeah. You know, and, and,

1:01:16

and as you said, this guy can play

1:01:18

the slot. Yeah. I think I'll play the slot

1:01:21

there with Mr. Tan and Moss outside DJ

1:01:23

said he reminds him of Brian Branch, which like

1:01:25

that, that catches your attention. I think if

1:01:27

teams knew what branch was hindsight being 20,

1:01:29

20, he's probably top 15 pick and he won

1:01:31

the second round. So. Um,

1:01:33

he can solve a lot of problems. Shout

1:01:35

out to our guy, Pat Crowley at Texas,

1:01:37

coaching up Baron. And, uh, I think it's

1:01:39

a great fit for them. No one, you

1:01:41

know, you look at that division, my homes, Gino,

1:01:44

Herbert, you gotta be ready to play

1:01:46

the past. No question. You look at like,

1:01:48

I was looking because, Hey, the chargers

1:01:50

invested in running back, the, the, the Raiders

1:01:52

invested in running back. Like who's good

1:01:54

at stopping the run in that division? Well,

1:01:56

the Broncos. We're very good up front.

1:01:58

They were stingy up front. The one place

1:02:01

I think they can improve from here

1:02:03

on out is that linebackering coverage. You

1:02:05

know, obviously you always want to add

1:02:07

in the pass rush, but you got

1:02:09

now three good corners. And

1:02:12

the middle of the field is going to

1:02:14

be where you can beef up from here on

1:02:16

out. But but the Broncos, I

1:02:18

think the Broncos might fuck around and be pretty good

1:02:20

this year. And they were pretty good last year. They

1:02:22

could be even better this year. And they just

1:02:24

beefed up the secondary. The

1:02:26

Steelers. Um,

1:02:29

at 21 took Shador

1:02:31

Sanders quarterback, Colorado. They

1:02:34

set it up for us all

1:02:36

night long. They sure did. And it

1:02:38

didn't happen. Didn't happen. They went

1:02:40

with Derek Harmon, who they hope to

1:02:42

replace Cam Hayward with eventually the

1:02:44

harm. Um, Steelers going to win a

1:02:46

lot of nine to six football

1:02:48

games, just like they like it. Not

1:02:50

sure who's going to play quarterback.

1:02:52

It could be Aaron Rogers. Maybe this

1:02:54

is. Maybe this is

1:02:56

where you say hey fuck it. We

1:02:58

make it happen first day the quarterback

1:03:00

thing didn't shake out the way we

1:03:02

wanted to shake out I don't know

1:03:04

what would have happened That maybe they

1:03:06

would have picked a quarterback at 21,

1:03:08

but I doubt it would have been

1:03:10

anything because should door and Jackson dart

1:03:12

we're sitting right there That's who was

1:03:15

probably gonna be there. Yeah seems like

1:03:17

maybe this was part of their plan

1:03:19

all along Which which makes me wonder

1:03:21

why if Rogers was the answer like

1:03:23

why they haven't done it yet Right.

1:03:25

So I'm not sure what they're doing

1:03:27

at quarterback this year, like the rest

1:03:29

of America. Nope. It's it's

1:03:31

Mason Rudolph and Skyler Thompson.

1:03:33

Unbelievable. What what what the fuck

1:03:35

rabbit do they have in their hat? Is

1:03:38

it just Rogers? Well,

1:03:40

could be Kirk Cousins. Could

1:03:42

be Jalen Milrow. It

1:03:44

could be. Could be Riley

1:03:46

Leonard. Will Howard. Yeah.

1:03:49

Will Howard. mean, I don't know if any

1:03:51

of these guys are going to to your

1:03:53

point. Step in. Trump likes Will Howard. Oh,

1:03:55

yeah. Yeah. Trump also

1:03:57

said the bears still

1:03:59

suck. That's what Clay Matthews

1:04:02

said. That was interesting. And

1:04:04

wouldn't it be something if

1:04:07

he lost it like like

1:04:09

the midterms just went terrible

1:04:11

because Trump said that the

1:04:13

bears still suck? Yeah. But

1:04:16

do you think Trump really told that to Clay Matthews? No,

1:04:18

I don't think so. Like,

1:04:20

I think that's just so funny. Like, why

1:04:22

Clay Matthews just throw Trump under the bus

1:04:25

like that? I don't know that he thought

1:04:27

he was throwing Trump under the bus. Yeah,

1:04:29

he thought it was like a good joke.

1:04:31

But like, he was just so pleased with

1:04:33

himself up there after that. I

1:04:35

got nervous. Yeah, me too.

1:04:37

He stuck the landing on it. I think he

1:04:39

just wanted to say Donald Trump in the

1:04:41

microphone. Yeah, that's what it felt like. I was

1:04:43

just going to be like, we have deported

1:04:46

the seven pigs. That

1:04:51

would have been, that would have

1:04:53

been ballsy. But what he did

1:04:55

up there was ballsy. Hey, Roger,

1:04:57

I'm going to go off script

1:04:59

here. All right. So anyways,

1:05:03

Rogers, Rogers

1:05:05

butthole was puckered. Oh

1:05:09

man. Okay. All right. So now

1:05:11

we've got the chargers who, you

1:05:13

know, most people are like, wide

1:05:15

receiver, please, you know, You

1:05:18

lose Josh Palmer. Right.

1:05:20

Lab McConkey can't catch all the balls.

1:05:22

You can. Uh -huh. You know, Quinn

1:05:24

Johnson. He's gonna have to. Mike

1:05:27

Williams is back. Mike Williams.

1:05:29

Okay. They must like some

1:05:31

late round guys, right?

1:05:33

Like, yeah. And yeah, they had trouble running

1:05:35

the ball last year, late in the season. I

1:05:37

mean, like early in the season, there was

1:05:39

a game where they were running, you know, nine

1:05:41

yards of pop. They were, but

1:05:43

that did not. that did not

1:05:45

hold. And so, you know, like

1:05:47

investing in a running back is a very

1:05:50

hardball thing to do here and say, hey,

1:05:52

we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna smash mouth

1:05:54

you to death and we're in the AFC

1:05:56

West. That seems to be the

1:05:58

trend. It's gonna be a physical division. The

1:06:00

Raiders are physical offensively. This team wants

1:06:03

to be physical. The

1:06:05

Chiefs are a physical outfit. Like

1:06:07

when they're at their best, they're

1:06:09

physical, they're fast, a quick game. You

1:06:11

know, and then on top of

1:06:13

that, You have the the Broncos who

1:06:15

are physical football teams. So you

1:06:18

Fonga. Yeah. A lot of a lot

1:06:20

of blue tentrips and Denver. No

1:06:22

question. A lot of collisions. But

1:06:24

the Chargers did sign Najee

1:06:26

Harris in the offseason. That's

1:06:28

right. And we're in the

1:06:30

ACC. And

1:06:33

with respect, I was not familiar

1:06:35

with Omarian Hamptons, which is not

1:06:37

a good thing to see. Watch

1:06:39

a lot of ACC. Yeah. I

1:06:41

didn't love running back at that

1:06:43

spot. Well, you know what I

1:06:45

do love? The

1:06:48

Packers drafting a wide receiver, although

1:06:50

that might not be good news for our guy

1:06:52

Wicks. I think it's more bad

1:06:54

news for Watson. But I

1:06:56

think Wicks... is helpful. I think he's

1:06:58

part of the solution. And they really

1:07:01

like him. And famously this off season,

1:07:03

he was like, we don't need any

1:07:05

more help when Josh Jacobs was like,

1:07:07

hey, we need a number one. Right.

1:07:09

But this guy golden from Texas got

1:07:11

a huge ovation. And if

1:07:13

if you're going to draft a

1:07:15

wide receiver, I like drafting a

1:07:17

confident one. And nothing says confidence

1:07:20

more than breaking down the crowd. Green

1:07:23

Bay on three taking the

1:07:25

microphone getting up and

1:07:27

just like stream of consciousness being

1:07:29

like, yeah, I'm going to break

1:07:31

down the crowd right here, Green

1:07:33

Bay on three. And

1:07:35

done perfectly. Like

1:07:37

100 % participation. So

1:07:40

always a good time when you're talking about

1:07:42

breaking down, you know, a group of people on

1:07:44

three that to remind you that my little

1:07:46

lead coach used to break us down. What

1:07:49

do you say no to? And we'd all

1:07:51

say drugs. And

1:07:56

so if you were up

1:07:58

on the hill and the

1:08:00

the the Elks down at

1:08:02

McIntyre Little League used to

1:08:04

scream drugs. All

1:08:07

right. So so I

1:08:09

wish that was the breakdown

1:08:11

for Matthew Golden. Yeah.

1:08:14

do you say no to? Does

1:08:16

anyone recall the 2002

1:08:18

receiver taken by Hollandaise

1:08:20

in the first round?

1:08:22

Hollandaise for sure. Receiver

1:08:25

that was the last receiver taken the

1:08:27

first round 2002. Did he end up

1:08:29

being a good player? Wait, sorry.

1:08:31

Can you say the question again? The

1:08:33

last Packers receiver taken

1:08:35

in the first round?

1:08:37

83 games played 4 ,000

1:08:39

career yards receiving 31

1:08:41

touchdowns Started with Green

1:08:44

Bay 02030405 then Denver

1:08:46

0607 then Oakland 08

1:08:48

and that was it

1:08:50

Geez Louise He

1:08:52

played college in the

1:08:54

ACC. Oh no Yeah, I

1:08:57

really I don't remember

1:08:59

the name but tell him

1:09:01

Javan Walker Javan Walker

1:09:03

J -Walk. I think Jordy

1:09:06

Nelson did finish as we

1:09:08

know him Javan Walker

1:09:10

and then pick us up

1:09:12

after Green Bay because

1:09:15

that's where we end up

1:09:17

walking over here to

1:09:19

record what? Yeah, so

1:09:21

Vikings, Vikings came on at 24,

1:09:23

took Donovan Jackson guard out of Ohio

1:09:25

State. You know, for

1:09:27

them, just another, a good

1:09:30

pick, just fortifying the interior of

1:09:32

the O line. Really

1:09:34

good guard prospect. He actually played

1:09:36

some tackle last year when Simmons

1:09:38

went down their left tackle. But

1:09:41

for them, just kind of continuing that look at that

1:09:43

though. Yeah. Yeah. Protected. Listen,

1:09:45

JJ McCarthy got hurt last year in preseason.

1:09:47

I don't think it was about the

1:09:49

fact that he got hurt. But I think

1:09:51

it's as much about the bloodbath that

1:09:53

was that Rams game in the playoffs. Like

1:09:55

if I'm Kevin O 'Connell, I never want

1:09:57

to see that happen again. And

1:09:59

obviously bringing in fries and the other

1:10:02

guys that they brought in this offseason. Ryan

1:10:04

Kelly, Ryan Kelly, try to beep up,

1:10:06

beef up the offensive line. They're not done.

1:10:08

They're also going to get Darisaw back

1:10:10

this year. Yep, right. He

1:10:12

was infamously injured at the end of

1:10:14

the first half in that first Rams

1:10:16

game. And that's where it kind of

1:10:18

all went downhill. So to add the

1:10:20

piece that they added tonight, like obviously

1:10:22

they're very serious about this. Yep. And

1:10:25

then 20, the 25th pick was

1:10:27

the trade to bring in Jackson. If

1:10:29

you got a quarterback, what do

1:10:31

you want your last name to be?

1:10:34

Maybe, maybe long, maybe

1:10:36

Dart. Yeah. Jackson

1:10:38

Dart. Bullet. Bullet.

1:10:41

guys, guys, a movie

1:10:43

character quarterback. Accurate.

1:10:45

Let me say this. Yeah. When

1:10:48

when when they made the trade,

1:10:50

Brian Daybaugh looked like he thought

1:10:52

I'm going to have this job

1:10:54

longer than I thought I was

1:10:56

going to have it. Like like

1:10:58

he looked really excited. Yep. So

1:11:00

like if you trust them and

1:11:02

you trust Brian Daybaugh, he's excited

1:11:04

about the pick make. Well,

1:11:07

yeah, for that very reason, he just got.

1:11:09

A longer leash because he got a rookie

1:11:11

call. Not if this guy sucks. I don't

1:11:13

think it's one of those things where like, he

1:11:15

just, this buys him a year. I think

1:11:17

for him to keep his job, this guy

1:11:19

has to be decent this year at the

1:11:21

very least. And if he, if he's good

1:11:23

enough to keep Brian Dables job this year,

1:11:25

I think you might have a quarterback. And

1:11:28

what week, ideally does he try

1:11:30

it out there with Russell hustle and

1:11:32

bustle in the room week six,

1:11:34

James in the room. Week six. Well,

1:11:36

hey, May 14th, we find out

1:11:39

who the Giants will be playing. Holy

1:11:41

shit, how about that schedule? While

1:11:46

the respective fan bases wait to hear

1:11:48

about the futures of their franchises, we're going

1:11:50

to tell you what date we're going

1:11:52

to release the schedule. How about when they

1:11:54

started that? My schedule is sitting there

1:11:56

listening to them, knowing that the schedule is

1:11:58

not coming out tonight. No are coming

1:12:00

out tonight. And I'm like, oh, maybe they're

1:12:02

going to drop someone's schedule. No,

1:12:04

no. It could have been at least

1:12:06

like a tease. Yeah. What's the opening

1:12:08

game of the season? Yeah. Or

1:12:11

you could have just put it on

1:12:13

a fucking Chiron or a ticker. You

1:12:15

know, hey, the schedule's gonna be on

1:12:17

May 14th. But I thought, I thought

1:12:19

Colleen Wolfe did a great job. They

1:12:21

did a great job. They did a

1:12:23

great job. It was just a tough,

1:12:25

tough ass. Tough assignment. Tough assignment to

1:12:27

get up there. It's like

1:12:29

I was... Schedule release, date release. Yes.

1:12:31

It's like doing stand up before a concert.

1:12:34

I just saw that happen in real

1:12:36

time. And I'm like, nobody came to hear

1:12:38

the stand up. It's a tough crowd.

1:12:40

It's the same thing for those two. Two

1:12:42

ladies that had to go out

1:12:44

there until you May 14th. Yeah,

1:12:46

so I just didn't think that

1:12:48

was a real good STL Memorial

1:12:50

STL Memorial Colleen Wolfen. Who else

1:12:52

was it Laura Rutledge. They did

1:12:54

a great job. Yep. Next. Next

1:12:57

was the Falcons doubling down

1:12:59

on edge with James Pierce. Looks

1:13:01

like a frickin wide receiver

1:13:03

at edge. Dude, his hips are

1:13:05

so like he's just he's

1:13:07

a string bean and a good

1:13:09

one. to be

1:13:12

250 something, all of six, five, like

1:13:14

that guy can get it. Four, four,

1:13:16

seven, 40. He can get it. 27

1:13:19

Ravens come on the clock and

1:13:21

take Malachi Starks out of Georgia player.

1:13:23

I know Eagles fans were hoping

1:13:25

for a very versatile safe. I ran

1:13:27

a four, seven, four. You

1:13:30

want to talk to me about genetics? You

1:13:33

want to talk to me about genetics?

1:13:35

You want to tell me I had genetics?

1:13:37

Well, 10 split. 10 split

1:13:39

was incredible. 10 split was incredible. But

1:13:42

these guys are running four fours

1:13:44

and four fives now wild. The

1:13:46

biggest question mark on Pierce has been

1:13:48

strength. Yeah, for sure. For

1:13:50

sure. Can't have it all for sure. But

1:13:52

if you can rush to pass her in

1:13:54

this league, you can burn burn the edge.

1:13:57

All right, we'll get next. So

1:13:59

Starks to the Ravens gives them a

1:14:01

safety safety play was a problem. Yes, it

1:14:03

was a problem. If you remember a

1:14:05

couple of those games, it was I heard.

1:14:07

Some people term it like some of

1:14:09

the worst safety play and this was like

1:14:11

middle the season before they really turned

1:14:14

around They move Kyle Hamilton back to safety.

1:14:16

Another thing is this guy's gonna play

1:14:18

with Kyle Hamilton. Yeah. Yeah. It's a dream.

1:14:21

a good spot for him. And the

1:14:23

Eagles were penciled in To draft

1:14:25

him according to some people and

1:14:27

that this thing picked up on

1:14:29

that rumor this week, but never

1:14:31

got there Yeah, I didn't get

1:14:33

there. And then at 28, the

1:14:35

Lions take Tylee Williams, de -tackle

1:14:37

out of Ohio State. Right. Add

1:14:40

a piece to that rotation with

1:14:42

Reader with Alee McNeil and gives you

1:14:44

some more injury insurance. You know,

1:14:46

that was what worked against them down

1:14:48

the stretch last year. Another tackle

1:14:50

for the Commies at 29, Josh Connerly,

1:14:53

out of Oregon. Which is just interesting,

1:14:55

probably, you know, kind of a luxury

1:14:57

pick for them. Maybe they didn't feel

1:14:59

too good about the corners and that

1:15:01

the edge guy is still available. Obviously,

1:15:03

those are still holes for them defensively.

1:15:05

They figured it out last year. They

1:15:07

hit the lottery. Protect your lottery ticket. Tunsel,

1:15:10

Connerly. Yep, no question. And they

1:15:12

also have the kid from TCU who

1:15:14

I really liked last year. They

1:15:16

could probably move around a little bit.

1:15:20

Um, yeah, they are investing in

1:15:22

that front and, uh, and they

1:15:24

got their guy last year. So,

1:15:26

um, bills go corner

1:15:28

at 30. Maxwell Hairston, um,

1:15:31

gives them, you know, a potential

1:15:33

starter opposite Benford on the perimeter.

1:15:35

And then of course the Eagles

1:15:37

taking linebacker Jihad Campbell out of

1:15:40

bam at 31, who I don't

1:15:42

know so much about, um, really,

1:15:44

but he's a big guy. I

1:15:46

mean, I, Big guy, big athlete,

1:15:48

really rangy, really explosive, sideline to

1:15:50

sideline speed. And you think

1:15:52

about Fangio and all the split safety

1:15:54

coverages. You need linebackers. We help cover

1:15:56

a lot of ground in the middle

1:15:58

of field and cover. So, you

1:16:01

know, all of a sudden,

1:16:03

obviously the Eagles, it's been something

1:16:05

talked about for years. Yeah,

1:16:07

we don't invest in linebackers. And

1:16:09

now you got... He got

1:16:11

Zach Bonn and a first rounder

1:16:13

and Jaha Campbell. So pretty

1:16:15

exciting. Well, it's funny.

1:16:17

Nikobi Dean worked out for

1:16:19

them ultimately. Yeah. You

1:16:21

know, he's, he's giving them some

1:16:23

really quality snaps and Zach Bonn wasn't

1:16:25

somebody that when they acquired him

1:16:27

looked like an investment. Right. You know

1:16:29

of the higher yeah, he took

1:16:31

a flyer on him and they may

1:16:33

and honestly the guy that they

1:16:35

went out with the intent to play

1:16:38

a lot of snaps for them

1:16:40

last year was Devin White and they

1:16:42

knew in camp that he wasn't

1:16:44

the answer So they've gotten there Maybe

1:16:46

not how they thought they would

1:16:48

but they've gotten there and if this

1:16:50

kid can play Good news and

1:16:52

they are in that mode where it's

1:16:54

like hey We we're picking for

1:16:56

luxury right now. Like we're

1:16:58

just kind of like making sure everything's

1:17:00

perfect. You know, we

1:17:02

talked about the offensive line the

1:17:04

other day, like with the, with

1:17:07

the contract for the center and

1:17:09

Juergens, like almost that entire line

1:17:11

is locked up at least through

1:17:13

27. So the

1:17:15

offensive lines in good shape, the

1:17:17

wide receivers are in good shape.

1:17:19

You know, there are rumors that

1:17:21

they're going to make a play

1:17:23

for Jalen Ramsey or something like

1:17:25

that, which I love Jalen Ramsey,

1:17:27

okay? And I think

1:17:29

Slay played pretty well for them

1:17:32

down the stretch. Obviously, he's

1:17:34

not there anymore. You're going to

1:17:36

have to replace a corner. You lost

1:17:38

some pass rush, right? You

1:17:40

lost Joshua, you lost Mone Williams. You're

1:17:42

going to have to find a corner,

1:17:44

right? But at this point,

1:17:47

they must have felt really strongly about

1:17:49

this kid. and that they could

1:17:51

snag him at this spot. And giving

1:17:53

up a fifth to jump ahead

1:17:55

of Kansas City. Yep. And

1:17:57

then the business with the team,

1:17:59

you just, you just shit kicked. Yep.

1:18:01

Right. And then first

1:18:03

round wraps with the Chiefs taking

1:18:05

Josh Simmons, tackle out

1:18:07

of a house state. He's

1:18:09

an interesting one because the experts

1:18:11

say if not for an

1:18:13

October, I believe it was

1:18:15

a knee season, knee injury, he

1:18:18

would have been the first. tackle

1:18:20

off the board, just a really

1:18:22

gifted prospect. So

1:18:24

if he's healthy, you're going to a long term

1:18:26

starter there at left tackle for them. So

1:18:30

we'll kind of see how that

1:18:32

shakes out. Well, listen, you'd like to

1:18:34

not have to move your guards

1:18:36

out to tackle in the biggest games

1:18:38

of the season. And, you know,

1:18:40

like the guy they they draft out

1:18:42

of BYU last year just didn't

1:18:44

work out. And Kingsley Suamatea, you

1:18:46

know, They've also, they brought

1:18:48

in Humphreys at one point, thought

1:18:50

you might get some snaps

1:18:52

out of him, really didn't. know,

1:18:56

the guy they grabbed from Jacksonville a couple of

1:18:58

years ago, he hasn't lined up on sides

1:19:00

in two years. So they're

1:19:02

due, they're due to hit

1:19:04

on one of these acquisitions

1:19:07

at tackle. It

1:19:09

was a patellar tendon

1:19:11

for Simmons. Same

1:19:13

for Nicoby

1:19:15

Dean. Is that right?

1:19:17

Yeah, sounds right. Simmons's

1:19:20

uncle, Chris

1:19:23

Fuamatu Maafala, a

1:19:25

Pittsburgh Steeler fan. Of course. Former

1:19:27

Ute. A little bit

1:19:29

before your time, Nolan. There's

1:19:32

no Ute anymore. Sounds like you nailed that

1:19:34

pronunciation there. I did. He was of my

1:19:36

favorites. So

1:19:39

that was the first round.

1:19:41

There'll be more draft analysis to

1:19:43

come. We'll talk to a draft

1:19:45

expert on Monday. We won't tell

1:19:48

you who yet. Or should we? Not

1:19:51

yet. Okay, we won't yet, just in case

1:19:53

he flakes on us. Like

1:19:55

the little bitches we are. But

1:19:59

we will talk to a

1:20:01

draft expert hopefully on Monday.

1:20:04

There was your first round, the

1:20:06

least exciting first round in the history

1:20:08

of the NFL draft. I

1:20:14

guess that's a little bit of

1:20:17

intrigue for for tomorrow. I think just

1:20:19

the league is thrilled. I mean,

1:20:21

but that does for ratings tomorrow. I

1:20:23

mean, so who gets picked first? Joe

1:20:26

Sanker or Sidur Sanders?

1:20:29

I think interesting dance partner. I

1:20:31

think Let's go blues the blues

1:20:34

beaten Winnipeg I think your door

1:20:36

is is the first player off

1:20:38

the board on Friday night. Oh,

1:20:40

no, whether it's whether it's Cleveland

1:20:42

or somebody else coming up to

1:20:44

to trade to get them. Well,

1:20:47

yeah, I mean, if

1:20:49

you're Cleveland, we're

1:20:51

about the Cowboys are 44. No way.

1:20:54

I mean, if he falls that

1:20:56

far. Cowboys got

1:20:58

anything's possible. I

1:21:01

mean, Looking at the

1:21:03

second round the Browns picked

1:21:05

twice in the first five picks.

1:21:07

I think the are gonna

1:21:09

take him with the first one.

1:21:11

What if Dia tonight is

1:21:13

calling the Browns or me like

1:21:15

do not pick my son?

1:21:18

How's that worked out so far

1:21:20

that do not pick my

1:21:22

son? We're gonna we're gonna pick

1:21:24

where he goes. I think

1:21:26

part of I don't think it's

1:21:28

like a high percentage

1:21:31

of why but I think

1:21:33

a tiny bit of it is

1:21:35

like Yeah, like if you're

1:21:37

gonna call your shot like maybe

1:21:39

you're not our guy whether

1:21:41

that's That's a good way to

1:21:43

evaluate whether the guy's your

1:21:46

guy or not, but I do

1:21:48

think NFL franchises I Do

1:21:50

think NFL franchises look at like

1:21:52

some of the declarations that

1:21:54

have been made and don't see

1:21:56

it as a positive Right.

1:21:58

If they thought he could play,

1:22:01

they already picked him. Right. But

1:22:04

I do think that that does factor into

1:22:06

maybe some of the trepidation, too, is like.

1:22:09

All right. What are we getting? Are we

1:22:11

getting like a player who's going to be

1:22:13

micromanaged from outside the building? Yeah. Yada,

1:22:15

yada, yada. We'll

1:22:18

see. I think I think

1:22:20

Cleveland Browns, you do it. Cleveland.

1:22:23

Maybe he's the guy that can pull the

1:22:25

sword from the stone, dude. Yeah,

1:22:27

I honestly, I actually, you look at the

1:22:29

quarterback room with Flacco and Pickett there,

1:22:31

I actually don't think it's a bad place

1:22:33

to land. It's really not. Obviously Cleveland

1:22:35

has the history with QBs and it's a

1:22:37

bad one, but those are two, two

1:22:39

vet guys who have been through it. Now,

1:22:42

will he be taking a pay cut?

1:22:44

We talked about players taking pay cuts, Nate,

1:22:46

you brought this up, you were like, can

1:22:48

a guy take a pay, how many guys

1:22:51

are taking pay cuts from, and I think the

1:22:53

answer is, it's more than you think. You

1:22:55

know some of these guys that

1:22:57

make a lot of money at some

1:22:59

of these big schools and then

1:23:01

don't get picked in the first round

1:23:04

like I Don't know what the

1:23:06

Cleveland Browns, you know the fifth picker

1:23:08

the third pick of the second

1:23:10

round is gonna get paid next year,

1:23:12

but I think he was making

1:23:14

five six million dollars at Colorado. Yeah,

1:23:16

so So that should be a

1:23:18

good thing though like right like said

1:23:20

that should not like you're not

1:23:22

worried about that and well, I think

1:23:24

today's athletes less worried Yeah, and

1:23:26

it's something where like if you I

1:23:28

don't know how all those deals

1:23:30

and what deals he has but The

1:23:32

deals aren't gonna stop I wouldn't

1:23:35

I wouldn't think he's gonna make some

1:23:37

money off the field Yeah, I

1:23:39

know you're still you're still gonna be

1:23:41

a draft pig not the first

1:23:43

rounder like obviously it might be no

1:23:45

just like we're just like we're

1:23:47

saying like Shadoor is coming from a

1:23:49

family where it's not like Yeah,

1:23:51

maybe he does want signings where

1:23:53

he's getting paid 50 to 100

1:23:55

dollars per item or whatever it

1:23:57

may be listen, but yeah, it's

1:24:00

just like That doesn't really have

1:24:02

to be a priority. He's gonna

1:24:04

do six figures and endorsements easy

1:24:06

I mean he might do seven

1:24:08

figures in endorsements easy You know

1:24:10

like and part of that is

1:24:12

gonna be he's should or Sanders.

1:24:14

Yeah, but but again like to

1:24:16

drive the point home like Getting

1:24:18

picked in the top five in today's

1:24:21

NFL like if you weren't old CBA

1:24:23

like back in the day It just

1:24:25

it doesn't matter as much. You know,

1:24:27

the thing that matters is the situation

1:24:29

that you end up in and how

1:24:31

probable is it that you'll be able

1:24:33

to cash in on the second deal

1:24:35

is the second deal can change your

1:24:37

life forever and you know, like it's

1:24:39

funny We talk about Dion Sanders or

1:24:41

somebody like me who's second generation NFL

1:24:43

and you say hey, they don't need

1:24:45

the money that that type of thing

1:24:47

is true And

1:24:49

guys like myself are lucky because hey

1:24:51

my dad played in the league

1:24:53

or should or Whose dad played in

1:24:55

the league who's coaching getting paid

1:24:57

now and he's getting paid in college

1:24:59

was some we weren't He ain't

1:25:01

the only one that doesn't need the

1:25:03

money judging by some of these

1:25:05

draft parties Jackson dart doesn't need the

1:25:07

fucking money. You know what I'm

1:25:09

saying? Like a couple of

1:25:11

these guys couple of spreads I

1:25:13

saw today. They don't need the

1:25:15

money either. So, you know when

1:25:17

you talk about motivation and like

1:25:20

what drives these guys and how

1:25:22

devastating sliding in the first round

1:25:24

is, it really to me

1:25:26

is as much about like your career

1:25:28

prospects as it is, how much you

1:25:30

get paid tonight. For some guys, a

1:25:33

first round top 10 pick is going to change

1:25:35

their lives forever, but how many of those top

1:25:37

10 picks weren't making life change of money anyways

1:25:39

at their respective schools last year? I don't know

1:25:41

what the answer would be, but I don't think

1:25:43

it's too many of them. You

1:25:45

know, I wonder what Ted

1:25:47

McMillan was making Arizona, right?

1:25:49

You know that would that

1:25:51

that that's an interesting conversation

1:25:54

to me All right, well,

1:25:56

that's that's gonna be that

1:25:58

anything else guys from the

1:26:00

first round that you think's

1:26:02

worth talking about. No Our

1:26:04

friends at PFF have given

1:26:07

out grades of below average

1:26:09

average, above average, good, very

1:26:11

good and elite. two picks

1:26:13

below average. Tyler

1:26:15

Booker Dallas. hmm

1:26:17

Jackson to New

1:26:19

York. Listen listen, I'm

1:26:22

kind of on Scott Van page

1:26:24

on this thing. You can I

1:26:27

say that is the dumbest fucking

1:26:29

thing in the world to try

1:26:31

to great grade a draft immediately

1:26:33

after. mean, like that is the

1:26:35

most it's the most at least

1:26:37

three years. Yeah,

1:26:40

wait three years. Like you at least three

1:26:43

years. Wait three years. Yeah,

1:26:45

Yeah, but we content can't

1:26:47

wait. So right, But

1:26:49

ours can We'll be back

1:26:51

on on Tuesday with

1:26:53

more content. Much of it will be