Ben Cahn and Emil DeRosa, Our Business Friends

Ben Cahn and Emil DeRosa, Our Business Friends

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it's just crazy to me that, like, so

1:07

this is normal, right? You're

1:11

about to get married. You

1:14

and, like, all the boys get together. All

1:16

totally normal. Everything you've said so

1:18

far is completely normal. You're about

1:21

to get married. You're making a

1:23

commitment to one woman for the rest

1:25

of your life. You and

1:27

all the boys get together. You're going

1:29

to go down to San Diego one

1:31

last hurrah, go

1:34

sniff some Scrooge or whatever. To

1:37

me, it's always a scrooge. No,

1:39

it is. It's always, like, oh, I'm going

1:41

to be nose deep to some scrunch. To

1:43

me, disgusting. Yeah. But I say,

1:46

well, people can just, like, I don't judge. It's

1:48

normal, but it's normal. People can do what they do. I don't

1:50

come from a place of judgment. You didn't say you do it?

1:52

What you said is this is considered normal. By

1:55

polite society, right? Some of

1:57

our most esteemed public

1:59

figures. right before they were

2:01

about to commit their lives to one

2:03

woman forever, right? They

2:06

took a trip to San Diego

2:08

for go scrooge hunting on the

2:10

freaking scrooge fest all

2:12

weekend. And that is considered to

2:15

be totally fine. But

2:19

when you make a personal

2:21

commitment to only have one soda for the rest

2:23

of your life, and you tell

2:25

your partner that you are going on a

2:27

trip to San Diego

2:29

to go drink every soda in

2:32

the world for one last raw

2:34

gallons of other soda. When

2:38

in Rome, you know? Well, the soda is gonna

2:40

make you say

2:42

leorne. Yes. This,

2:46

now suddenly there's all these questions. Why do you

2:48

have to go on a trip to do this?

2:51

Why are you

2:54

only gonna drink one soda forever? Which

2:56

soda? That is the one that gets

2:59

me, it's like, so when

3:01

I committed to you for the rest of

3:04

my life, that made sense. And now that

3:06

I wanna commit to one soda, you

3:08

have all these questions, like it doesn't

3:10

make sense. It's like, what the fuck

3:12

are we doing here? It's like she would rather me go

3:15

to San Diego on

3:18

like a traditional bachelor party and

3:21

just. And for the end

3:23

of the year, what is scrooge? Scrooge,

3:27

there's a lot of names for it. Yeah.

3:31

It's always different names. Oh, okay.

3:33

Yeah. People call it scrooge.

3:36

This is just like, they're friendlier to me. Yeah,

3:39

scrooge is a good, I mean, that's the

3:41

current term people are using, but you know,

3:43

if you don't like the term, wait five

3:45

minutes because they come up with a new

3:47

word for this stuff all the time. So,

3:51

I mean, I don't

3:53

know. And now it's like, it's become

3:55

a scheduling fucking nightmare anyway, when I'm gonna

3:57

actually get away to. Just

4:00

going to the trip. It's nice to have soda for me

4:02

anymore Well, and that is the

4:04

thing that your partner will do is like they'll

4:06

just suck the fun out of what was supposed

4:09

to be Like kind of a nice innocent Soda

4:11

weekend with the boys. You know what soda

4:14

I chose. Oh, I don't

4:16

actually Cream soda. I

4:19

chose IBC cream soda. Wow. You know why? How

4:21

did you know? Because it's the sweetest there is.

4:23

Because I take one sip and

4:25

IBC the devil One

4:31

tidy sip IBC

4:33

the devil's gonna begin to dance What

4:36

happens after two sips? One

4:40

sip I'm gone. Yeah. Oh It's

4:44

lights out I'm like I wake up I'm

4:46

wading into the ocean So

4:49

then you don't even need any of that other soda. You

4:51

don't need to go. That's what I that's what the commitment

4:53

is about Take the

4:56

next step you've fallen deeply in love

4:58

with this one soda IBC cream soda

5:01

That's what I said to her. You

5:03

BC the devil when you do that.

5:05

Mm-hmm one sip But

5:07

so you did make it down to San Diego No,

5:10

it's a different ocean. Oh, yeah, so I was

5:13

confused too. I was like is this It

5:17

feels the same on my area

5:24

Cuz that's how far that's how far I've like

5:26

waited in sure I kind of like wait into

5:28

my area. Yeah, I'm like, oh As

5:31

soon as you get area deep. Yes That

5:34

like yeah, that's different the

5:36

area it's different When

5:38

the ocean gets on your area When

5:41

once you hit that point where

5:43

the oceans touching your area It's

5:47

pretty a whole other ball game, isn't

5:49

it? Yeah. Yeah You're

5:51

like you the whole time you've been like I

5:53

got this This I

5:55

don't know what everyone is like. I don't know what's

5:57

the whatever. We all warning me about Why

6:00

was everyone scared? No suit, just area

6:02

right on ocean, ocean right on area.

6:04

Suitless. I've been, just to

6:07

get it over with, I go area first now.

6:10

I have a way I could do it. Before

6:14

the Smartless podcast, we had a podcast called

6:16

Suitless that was just about us putting our

6:19

area in the ocean. It's

6:25

been in a meal. Just

6:27

as good as with those guys too. No

6:30

disrespect to them. In

6:33

a meal. Disrespecting you Ben in a meal. From

6:35

Ben in a meal show. From

6:37

Ben in a meal show. They're here.

6:41

These guys are on YouTube. We're on YouTube.

6:44

And they're on it. They put that shit on. Yeah.

6:47

Tens of views. No,

6:49

we're the number one podcast right here. We are the number

6:52

one, yeah. Right now. We did discuss. You don't take that

6:54

for granted and I won't be there. No. No.

6:57

What did you discuss? Remember how you got here. Oh,

7:00

we discussed. Don't tell them what we discussed. Don't tell

7:02

them anything. Well, no, but it's okay here. We

7:05

discussed owning

7:08

the fact that we are the number one. Because

7:11

they'll come for you. Yeah. Well,

7:13

and we're just- The arrows start flying. They can

7:15

try. Pull. We're too humble

7:17

by nature and we think that it maybe

7:21

does us a disservice. But we

7:23

are. But they got

7:25

you. Got you to number one.

7:27

Got you to number one podcast on YouTube. So

7:29

maybe we stay humble at the top. And

7:31

that's the marketplace of ideas, isn't it? That's

7:33

the bizarre. That's what we call it. Everyone's

7:35

in there hawking their wares. It's

7:38

true. Sir. It's

7:40

the old public square, yes. Feel these

7:42

fine fabrics. My ideas, I come out

7:44

of the bizarre. What am I gonna

7:46

do with all these fucking fabrics? That's

7:49

when people ask us what our show is like. We

7:51

say, you ever been to Istanbul? Well,

7:54

now it's gone to Constantinople. Oh,

7:57

but then it was- Yeah. You ever

7:59

been to Constantinople? I both has Stan in it. Stan

8:02

culture, that's what they're talking about. It

8:04

is exhausting though, being in the

8:07

world of YouTube. You have to

8:09

worry about thumbnails, you gotta worry about descriptions

8:11

and titles. People being mean

8:13

to you in the comments. People being so

8:15

mean. My biggest worry. The comments, actually. People

8:17

are very mean, people are very particular. People

8:19

have very strong opinions. I'll tell you what,

8:22

they let you get away with nothing. Truly,

8:25

either I'm interrupting him too much, or he's

8:27

interrupting me too much, or he's too quiet,

8:30

or I'm too loud, or any combination. Let

8:32

me cut you off. Okay. Shout

8:35

out. No, you're right. Or

8:37

they're telling us that we're mad at each other, even

8:39

though I don't feel like I'm mad at my dear

8:41

friend, Ben. It's a strange world.

8:43

But they're holding you accountable. That's true.

8:46

I mean, what I hear now

8:48

is like, there's sort

8:50

of an attitude, right, of like, I wanna do

8:53

whatever I want, and I don't

8:55

care who it hurts, I don't care who feels

8:57

like I'm interrupting someone. Yes, this is what I'm

8:59

hearing from you. It's just like, oh, I just

9:01

wanna do whatever I want, and

9:04

I wanna be the number one podcast, and

9:06

no one holds me accountable. And I don't

9:08

think that's a healthy attitude. It's good to

9:10

have a mirror held up to us. And

9:12

you're saying we need an attitude adjustment. Well,

9:15

I wouldn't mind hearing you

9:17

say like, the hurtful

9:19

comments are actually very good. Because

9:22

they hold us accountable. Well, it's

9:24

constructive, yes, because it does make

9:26

you stop interrupting. And

9:29

then the other guy will interrupt. Maybe

9:31

we should work on that right now. You know what I mean?

9:33

Just shutting the fuck out. Yeah, but it's just like, I know,

9:36

I can't. Maybe we do have a problem. You

9:40

probably do, but I certainly don't. I

9:42

don't have any kind of issues with

9:45

my performance on the show. But

9:48

the audience does. The audience, yeah. I

9:50

mean, they do ads. We do

9:52

ads, we do ads. Professionally, really well. Yeah. And

9:57

they know the guy who did

9:59

animals. that we were

10:01

never on and they were on it. I

10:03

wasn't, he was. I was, yes. Animals.

10:07

I should have been on animals. I can

10:09

talk to Phil if you want. What

10:12

about like a lost episode of animals, you know

10:14

what I mean? We can do, yeah. What

10:17

did you play like a monkey or a squirrel? I

10:19

was in the live action one. I played myself. No,

10:21

I didn't play myself. There was a live action one.

10:23

They did. And I didn't

10:26

do that either. God damn, there's been

10:28

two different kinds. Kevin, do you remember

10:30

this? You remember animals? Someone feed Phil.

10:33

Oh, someone feed Phil. We got a real Phil

10:35

head here. And if there's any Phil heads out

10:37

there, we do a monthly special with our pal

10:39

Phil called the Meatball Special. We

10:42

actually got, the

10:45

reason that the last episode that we did with

10:47

Phil got like demonetized on YouTube

10:49

is because the intro has the first

10:52

plane hitting the

10:54

towers. And that is copurized. Demonized

10:56

and demonetized. It's

10:59

not copyright. It's just that this is inappropriate. Oh,

11:01

it's not copyright. That's so funny. Yeah, it just

11:03

was, I read this. I was like, oh, that's

11:06

weird. We got the

11:08

thing saying, hey, you've been demonetized. And

11:10

I saw the reason and it said this

11:13

timestamp and it's like the first minute

11:16

and literally like two seconds. This is the problem with YouTube.

11:18

Oh, I thought I was never forget. Oh, I guess I

11:20

didn't realize would never forget me. You

11:22

can't sell ads against 9-11. And

11:25

I just wanna say you are supposed

11:28

to be the audience. You're supposed to be helping the

11:30

audience through this experience. And

11:34

when I'm just talking about like animals,

11:36

people are like, what the fuck is

11:38

this? What's animals? And

11:40

I say, do you remember animals? You

11:43

say what it is. You don't say

11:45

somebody feed Phil, which is taking people

11:47

so much farther. A very niche. That's

11:49

right. He said someone feed Phil because

11:51

he's a real Phil head. Somebody's

11:55

gotta feed Phil. Animals

11:58

are little critters that run around. And

12:00

was a TV show at one time and was an

12:02

animated TV. It was an animated TV show on Full-blown

12:06

HBO young actual HBO

12:08

pre max Do

12:11

you guys have a producer on your show? We

12:14

have yes Kevin you do not want to be asked

12:16

you that question He

12:19

he yeah, he's very he's very

12:21

Jim. That's what his name is. He's very

12:23

Jim. Yeah That's

12:25

it doesn't get any dreamers in that Jim and

12:28

I Actually just realized who

12:30

he looks like and I don't

12:33

I shouldn't say that I realized cuz I can't

12:35

give a name thereafter But he looks like a

12:37

specific Muppet But

12:39

you won't say which one because I don't know I

12:41

I've been meaning I've been meaning to

12:43

Google list of the Muppets so that I could describe

12:47

guy Oh Describe uh he

12:49

kind of looks like for if gonzo

12:51

had a handsome brother Okay,

12:54

so it's not a specific it is a specific

12:56

Muppet, but it's one. I feel like I've been

12:58

vented I feel like we're gonna have

13:00

to have a call with HR now that you call that producer. We

13:02

don't have HR It's shot literally

13:04

in my in my master bedroom. Don't tell

13:06

people that I've got my poop toilet right

13:08

in there Which we wish

13:11

you didn't but why it's not a

13:13

problem For you, it's

13:15

better than not having yeah, okay. Oh, we

13:17

don't have guys Yeah,

13:20

now there's none anywhere you

13:22

got some gum on the bottom of your shoe by the way.

13:24

Yeah, I know Wow,

13:28

okay You can save in

13:30

it Yeah

13:35

What would what else could be happening?

13:38

Put my so on the bottom of my shoe so I could do the

13:40

show he had a Guess it's not

13:42

gonna be a surprise now, but he had a trick he was gonna do for

13:44

you guys Can

13:49

you still do it I can act surprised we can

13:51

edit this And

13:56

these guys are doing different shows we're

13:59

doing different shows They're on networks,

14:01

they're leaving networks. They're

14:03

on this subscription platform. Now they're

14:05

on another one. We know a little something about

14:08

that. We changed the name three times. We can't

14:10

say still. You said still too long, you die.

14:13

That's the truth. We still say

14:15

that we will never do more than 90

14:17

episodes of a show. That gets

14:19

itchy. We're gonna hold for that. And we're at

14:21

like 76. Yeah, so. Seven

14:24

month itch. That might be a surprise to

14:26

some listeners, but there are 14 more episodes.

14:29

That clock. Yeah. Well,

14:31

the more episodes you do, the more

14:33

you get the urge to go down

14:35

to San Diego and sniff, squirt, squirt.

14:38

Squirt, squirt. Squirt, squirt. Was it squirt? Is

14:40

it squirt now? No. Now it's

14:42

squirt. I know, now it's squirt. Nobody told

14:44

me. Scrooge? Yep. No, it

14:46

wasn't scrooge. Yeah, it was. No, it wasn't. And

14:49

there. There's no honor. You take one sip

14:51

of scrooge, next thing you know, you're begging for just a little

14:53

bit of ocean on your area. Okay, so wait, can I just

14:55

pause? What was that? The

14:58

area? The squirt.

15:04

Is it squirt now? Cause

15:07

I don't know, I thought it was a

15:09

warmup and I was like, okay, surely there's

15:11

squirt. Would that be bad? Is it bad

15:14

to just like do a little warmup? No,

15:16

no, I was like, I was gonna come

15:18

out and get really badly hurt. I

15:21

just wanna instantly get myself really

15:23

badly injured by doing a podcast

15:26

with no warmup at all. Oh

15:28

yeah, that's really smart. We should start warming up.

15:30

Yeah, we don't. Yeah, we don't. We just go

15:33

right in. We can tell you something. When you're

15:35

young, fine, you know, you feel like you're invincible,

15:37

you're gonna get out there and just do the

15:39

podcast. You should probably make it a habit

15:41

to warm up. And how old are you guys? At some point.

15:44

You know, it's not about numbers with me. Okay, so

15:46

that's over 40. No. No,

15:48

is it? I just don't talk about the numbers, you know?

15:51

Yeah. It's like what I

15:53

talk about really is warming

15:55

up being a

15:58

constructive habit and something that will. help

16:00

you in the future for your podcasting.

16:02

Yeah. Whether I'm old, whether I'm over

16:05

40, that's like, doesn't matter. Stupid. Nobody

16:08

even cares. It's not something we talk

16:10

about other show at all. If

16:12

I'm 40, if I'm less, if I'm, you

16:15

know, god forbid more, it's just not. Do

16:17

people talk about it in comments and whatnot?

16:19

Because people call. You made it clear no

16:21

one cares. Oh, yeah. OK, well, that's good.

16:24

They talk about how they don't give a

16:26

fuck, man. Yeah, that's good. Just so you

16:28

know, we don't give a fuck. Unprompted people

16:30

are like, I don't fucking care. We

16:33

made it really difficult to leave comments. On

16:36

your show? Yeah, we're not in the YouTube

16:38

marketplace. Yeah. We're not doing that. It's just

16:40

like you have to be so, you

16:46

have to be so driven to leave a comment for

16:48

us. Like it's just not,

16:50

by the time you get there, you're probably not going

16:52

to be thinking about my age anymore. You'd be thinking

16:54

about your age. It's going to be so long to

16:56

get here. Can

16:58

you describe the process? If I wanted to leave

17:00

a comment on this episode. You wanted to leave

17:02

a comment? Well, I think it would really build

17:05

character for you to take that journey. Probably.

17:07

It seems to me like comment leaving has been

17:09

handed to you. It doesn't take place in the

17:12

online space. I was

17:14

going to guess, do I have to write a letter?

17:16

And then you guys decide or something? No, sorry. It's

17:18

all body. There's

17:21

no writing involved. It's all body. Yeah.

17:23

It's like you got to show up.

17:28

90% and actually 100% of leaving a comment is showing up. That's

17:33

right. Do

17:36

you guys ever worry about people showing up here on

17:38

the street? Because it

17:40

is a very public location. And

17:44

you have famous people coming

17:47

in and out of this place. Why are you pointing out

17:49

there when you say famous people? Well, because the famous

17:53

people are out there. You

17:55

guys have people who have been on animals on HBO

17:57

You guys don't have guests, huh?

18:00

We've tried people don't like it. Yeah,

18:03

if we make it we make it too easy Yeah,

18:08

that's not part of it them

18:10

liking it believe me we've had

18:12

guests Guests don't gotta

18:14

like it. No. No, it's not the

18:16

guests that don't like it. Oh the commenters don't like

18:18

the commenters get

18:21

Commenters go you know we

18:23

like Ben and Emil episodes. Oh

18:26

really Wow do more of that Yeah,

18:28

every time we we go through great

18:30

lengths to get people on the show

18:33

We do it and we say that was a really fun episode and then it

18:35

comes out and they go My guess

18:37

I'll skip this one. Yeah, they like

18:39

Phil from animaroo. They do what we

18:41

go through great lengths Did

18:44

he say to know I said he said through yeah

18:51

Two great fucking kicking it in This

18:55

motherfucker busted down Great

18:59

that's one by the way That's one we

19:01

count your worst nightmare if he fucks up

19:03

again be sure to keep the count so

19:05

that you know nice if you had some

19:07

Show solidarity no and these guys play the

19:09

markets I do you're a

19:11

day trader. Yeah Mm-hmm, you

19:14

know money man. I'm a little bit of a Money

19:18

man, I'm a tray dater. I Only

19:24

I only go on dates at restaurants where you carry

19:26

a tray From

19:29

station to station a little bit of a trade

19:32

What are some of the best restaurants in LA that meet

19:35

that category hospital cafeteria? hometown

19:38

but there's brass corral which is

19:40

like golden corral but Not

19:43

so hoity-toity Yeah, oh,

19:45

it's I've heard the leftovers from golden

19:48

corral. Yeah, they serve it at brass.

19:50

Yeah flat rate. We're perfectly good. Yeah

19:54

my family used to break our yom kippur

19:56

fast at What's

19:58

the not hometown I'm a face, suplantation.

20:02

It was pathetic. Yeah, I hated

20:04

that. Why? Because

20:06

suplantation is a pathetic place. Why

20:09

were people so sad when it left? It is

20:11

gone. But it just, it

20:13

was a pathetic place for you. There's

20:16

a lot of people, let's

20:19

just say taking advantage. What, why don't

20:21

we, just moving forward,

20:23

just for this episode, have a little bit

20:25

of a rule, I think it'd be

20:27

fun for us, where we can

20:29

say, my opinion

20:31

is that suplantation

20:34

is a pathetic place, and things

20:37

like that, just so that we're not making

20:40

these kind of blanket statements

20:42

about things like, suplantation, which a

20:46

lot of people, you've probably seen because you

20:48

would go there and join. Yeah. And

20:51

so you can say, I'm

20:53

Ben, right? I'm Ben, that's me. And

20:55

my opinion is that suplantation is a

20:57

pathetic place. Would that be a

20:59

good idea for this episode? That's my lived experience. Do you

21:01

wanna give it a try? Let

21:04

me try. I'm Ben, I'm

21:09

Ben. It's not feeling good, yeah. And

21:11

it is my opinion

21:13

that the restaurant,

21:17

suplantation, which is no longer, sucks

21:20

and is pathetic. Because

21:23

of problems I had with my

21:26

family. Because

21:29

the pizza, it just sucked. Actually,

21:34

you know what? We can get pizza at suplantation?

21:36

Scratch, can we just delete all that? Suplantation

21:39

rock. We can't do that. For a kid? No.

21:42

A suplantation was- Pat from Seek Treatment made us

21:44

cut like nine minutes of the last episode. Yeah,

21:47

so we have a rule where the guest can't

21:49

do that anymore. Also related to talking about, just

21:51

going to a store. What did he

21:53

say that was so hard? Very controversial statements. He

21:56

was just dragging this poor- and

22:00

it's a woman of no reason,

22:03

just like. Who was the woman? None

22:05

of us know. I mean, he

22:07

gave like enough information that she

22:09

would be able to identify herself,

22:11

but not enough for us to

22:13

identify her. So it was really

22:16

cruel because like, she would

22:18

just be listening and just have that

22:20

like sinking realization that like, oh my

22:22

God, he's talking about me. It

22:24

was intended only to harm. And

22:29

we didn't even get the sort of like

22:31

joy of like also ganging up on her.

22:33

You cut it. Wow, he

22:35

made us. We just said like the guests

22:37

can't have that power anymore. I

22:39

respect that. If we say something, we better mean it. We

22:42

better believe it. Well, it's nice to

22:44

preface it with this is my opinion. Just

22:46

everything. How about a blanket?

22:49

If we say something today. I'm

22:51

not very cold though. Yeah, I wouldn't mind

22:53

hearing that on each individual sentence. Okay,

22:55

we can, sure. We're the

22:57

guests here. We're happy to. Thank

23:00

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23:03

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28:23

Hollywood ham book. We should do our stock

28:25

tips segment. Oh,

28:29

we got it. Every week we do. The

28:31

market's going a little

28:33

bit crazy right now. And maybe since you

28:35

guys are into this stuff. I think it's

28:37

so cool to talk about. What we do

28:39

is we name different stocks. Well,

28:42

you know what we're doing though? That's unfair.

28:45

And I want to do this. We're saying

28:47

you guys. So it's you

28:49

guys are on animals and then, well he

28:51

is, I'm not. Then it's you guys talk

28:53

about the stocks. Well, I do, he doesn't.

28:55

Yeah. Right? Because that's their thing, I guess.

28:57

They have absolutely nothing in common. He

29:00

plays tennis. I don't be grouped into. Well he

29:03

plays tennis, you don't. So it's a, yeah. Yeah.

29:05

I know. Well, you're

29:07

not sitting here going, you guys play tennis.

29:10

I could, but. You

29:12

could play tennis. Yeah. Why don't

29:14

you? I could play tennis. It's not in

29:16

the cards for me. That ball's too scratchy.

29:20

It kills. I

29:23

like the smell of that damn thing. Me

29:25

too. But like once you get right up in

29:27

there. See, I don't

29:29

love the smell. So scratchy. Like gasoline.

29:31

I remember sniffing gasoline when I was like

29:33

12. Yeah. And getting way

29:35

too up close and I was like, whoa. Yeah. It's

29:38

like my first time smelling Sklurge. They

29:41

don't, there's no. Skrooge.

29:44

Skrooge. Fuck. For the tennis ball, for

29:46

gasoline, for Sklurge. For Sklurge, yeah. They

29:49

should just have a little chalk circle

29:51

around it. Like this, like you just

29:53

stay out, out here. You're

29:56

good. Yeah. Well, that's just your opinion. You

29:58

can get close enough. Yeah. Do you guys

30:00

want to maybe caveat some of, cause you

30:02

guys I think went on record saying that

30:04

some of our We have a thing like

30:06

a pre tape before the Because you did

30:08

say some of our most famous

30:11

public officials have gotten into some Scrooge.

30:14

Well, yeah. But that's just fact maybe. Yeah,

30:17

I think it's actually been documented. Oh,

30:19

okay. I mean, it's like a matter

30:21

of public record, but let's do our

30:23

stock segment. Yeah. And you do

30:25

this every time. So what we do is yes, we say a stock

30:28

with the ticker symbol. And

30:31

then we say, and you guys can that be

30:33

this episode, you guys can say if it's buy

30:36

my guy or me

30:38

oh my. Oh,

30:41

I thought you were gonna sell like hell. No,

30:44

that doesn't sound like buy Mike. You know what I

30:46

mean? Yeah, but what does me oh my? That's what

30:49

you say when you see a bad stuff. When it's

30:51

going by on the ticker and you see a bad

30:53

one, hold your hand and go, me oh my. Wouldn't

30:56

sell like hell work better? Yeah,

30:58

but this isn't our show. And that's also just your

31:00

opinion. Well, that would sell like hell would

31:03

work if for buy,

31:06

my guy, it would smell the bell. You

31:09

know what I mean? Cause you can smell like ring the

31:11

bell at the stock market. And we're assuming we don't have

31:13

any of it because

31:15

then there would have to be some word of like,

31:18

you know, hold till you're old

31:20

or whatever. Oh, I like

31:22

that. Whatever that would be. Or hold your bill.

31:24

I guess it should rhyme with me oh my

31:26

though. It has to rhyme with me

31:28

oh my. Oh, because it's rhyming with buy my guy.

31:31

Yeah, buy my guy. Me oh my. Yeah.

31:34

Hold till you die. Yeah. Yeah. Hold

31:37

till you die. Stand back and stand by Mr. Trump. Oh,

31:39

stand back and stand by. That's right. I'm

31:41

ready for, I know every stock.

31:44

Okay. Let's do some stocks. Let's

31:47

do, I've

31:51

been sort of looking at, it's

31:54

on the ticker symbol

31:56

it's Otis. The elevator

31:59

company. So that's what I

32:01

thought too. It's not? And

32:05

I looked a little more into this. It's actually,

32:07

have you seen Milo

32:10

and Otis? Yeah, they killed a lot of

32:12

dogs. It's the company that supplied the dogs.

32:14

Oh, yeah. And so

32:16

like they... Chinese company. It

32:19

was not a Chinese company.

32:22

Well, in that case, I'm going... We actually don't

32:25

say what companies

32:28

are, what countries just like... But if

32:30

we do, we do want to get

32:32

it right. Yes. Yeah, yeah,

32:34

yes. But they're listed on the NASDAQ. We

32:36

don't just guess. Yeah, so we have to

32:38

know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In

32:40

that case, I'm going heavily by my guy. By

32:44

my guy. Yeah, I'm gonna take it a

32:46

step further in if you... Because Trump... Because

32:48

they had to supply so many dogs and

32:51

you watch the movie, they are actually just

32:53

throwing dogs into the... Well, on an area

32:55

first. Waterfalls. Yeah. It's a bull market, you

32:57

know. In this administration, I think... Dog market.

32:59

Yeah, bull dogs. Yeah. When you

33:02

have high turnover because they don't live that

33:04

long. Yes, especially if they're in the movie.

33:06

Well, there hasn't been another Milo and Otis

33:08

movie. We're due. That's exactly right.

33:10

Yes. And there's a culture shift. Yes. Yeah,

33:13

so like if we can get in now,

33:15

then when they announce that movie, right? Because

33:17

it's all cyclical. It's

33:19

all cyclical. When I watched that on VHS...

33:21

My opinion anyway. Over and over and over

33:23

when I was a child, I

33:26

remember having the opinion, hey,

33:29

even as a child, you know, you

33:31

can distinguish movie magic from... Yeah, I

33:33

couldn't. Actual fucked up things. And I

33:35

remember thinking, how the

33:38

hell did they safely throw that

33:40

dog and that cat over that

33:43

raging waterfall? Without

33:46

the dog or cat dying? Being dashed against

33:48

the rocks. Yeah, but then that's how Otis,

33:50

the company... The company was able to grow.

33:52

That's how they had such great margins. Can

33:54

I tell you something embarrassing I've never shared

33:56

with anyone? Yeah.

34:00

I used to think when I was a child

34:02

for a long time, I thought whenever I was

34:05

hearing music or

34:07

seeing something on TV or movies, I thought I

34:09

was watching it live or hearing it live. I

34:12

thought the band was playing the song live.

34:15

Oh, dude. Holy shit. And if

34:17

you change the channel, they die. How

34:19

old were you, 17? I'm trying

34:21

to remember when I figured it out, but

34:23

I remember being surprised. Do you know what,

34:26

you guys ever played baseball, high school ball?

34:28

Oh, yeah. You remember the

34:30

Jugs Machine and batting practice? They load up

34:32

the- The Jugs Machine was one of the

34:34

cheerleaders we called their Jugs Machine. Well,

34:37

I used to dance to that name as well. But this

34:40

was something, when you're taking

34:42

some BP, they load the

34:44

ball and one by one go like, jonk, and

34:46

just shoot the ball out really fast at you.

34:49

So Otis invented something called the Pugs Machine.

34:52

Yeah, no, I heard this. It works very, it

34:54

is actually the same machine.

34:57

Yeah. They took a marker and

34:59

they just put a P on it instead of a J and

35:01

they put dogs in it. Yeah. It

35:03

goes, the sound of the pugs. I'm

35:05

curious about, so on the ticker,

35:08

it's SLND. And

35:12

this is the Slender Man stock.

35:14

It's the one that you use

35:17

to summon Slender Man. And

35:20

he comes, you buy one

35:23

share of it, he comes, he kills you. He

35:25

shoots you with a gun. How

35:27

quickly does he come and shoot you with

35:29

a gun? Pretty, I mean, other people are

35:32

buying it, so there's a little bit of

35:34

a cue of people that he's coming and

35:36

shooting. He's wanting, and like. And

35:40

I think he likes to take his time

35:42

actually, make sure you feel him watching you

35:45

before he actually reveals the barrel of his

35:47

steely gun. I think at this point, the

35:49

stock is not doing well. Because it has

35:51

gotten out that this is a trap. It's

35:55

thinly disguised, it's named

35:57

SLND. Sure. He's

36:00

thinly, he's thinly this guy.

36:03

He's thinly this guy. He's thinly this

36:05

guy. I mean, he's thinly. This

36:07

guy's thinly. This guy's, I'm

36:09

going my own way. I have another stock.

36:15

This one is PKMN. Pokemon.

36:21

No. So,

36:24

but there is something called Pokemon, right?

36:26

Yeah, there has to be. And there

36:28

is something. There's something. And

36:30

there's something called Pac-Man as well. That's

36:32

right. And there's also

36:34

not quite as well

36:36

known, but it's also a game called Pikmin.

36:40

Oh yeah. You know, there's those little

36:42

guys as well. Yeah. What

36:44

is, I'm noticing a pattern here. P

36:46

vowel, K,

36:49

M, same

36:51

vowel, N. Nice save on

36:54

the CK, but yeah. Thank

36:56

you. It

36:59

implies, nay confirms

37:03

that the next turning

37:07

will produce Pokemon.

37:11

And PKMN just

37:13

allows you to just kind of like sit

37:15

on Pokemon, whatever

37:17

it is. We know it's

37:19

coming. We don't know what it's going to be

37:21

yet, but when Pokemon hits, It's going to be

37:23

big. It's going to be big.

37:25

It's going to be massive. I mean, Pac-Man was

37:28

a huge Pokemon, you know, you

37:30

knew it right away. This one's more

37:32

of a silly pitch. This one's more

37:34

of a- Wow, so Pokemon, operating speculative.

37:37

Thank you. It's more of a speculative, like

37:39

a biotech. It's similar to a biotech. It just lets

37:41

you sit down. I mean,

37:43

it is gambling. Criss cross applesauce.

37:46

Yeah. Do you guys have any, could

37:48

you paint a picture of what Pac-Man is like,

37:50

Pac-Man is like for us? I'm

37:53

guessing hockey. Well, I guess if I could do

37:56

that, I would be making it. You know

37:58

what I mean? Yeah, so it is like. We

38:00

would have pugman because I would be doing that, you

38:02

know. But then it would be too late.

38:05

Yeah. I mean, it'd be too late to get in. So

38:07

I'd rather have it. And then when it arrives, as these

38:09

things do, you know. We all

38:11

we know is that it's coming. We can see it

38:14

cresting the hill. And

38:17

it's big. It's a big M-Effer.

38:19

Are you feeling pugman?

38:23

I don't know. I would need more

38:25

information, especially about who there is a hockey puck. Also

38:27

I do. It is a hockey puck. I

38:30

do like it now. I do want to point out that there

38:33

was a lot of miss-pack-man erasure and

38:35

it was hard to sit through. Just

38:38

now? Well. That's so

38:41

interesting. When I said pack-man, you

38:43

thought I was talking about Mr. Pack-man. Yeah, I bet

38:45

you think. That's kind of interesting. I actually was talking

38:47

about Miss Pack-man the whole time. Oh, interesting. Mr.

38:50

Pack-man just because I said pack-man.

38:53

Wow. Dipshit. That's

38:55

kind of a racist as well, I think. I wonder

38:57

what that says about you. I wish

39:00

we had live comments to read so

39:02

that people could hold you accountable. I'll read all

39:04

the comments. Well, Kevin, we have some, yeah, we

39:06

can read some. Kevin, do you want to hit

39:09

us with a couple live comments? Sure.

39:13

This one says, go ahead, Sean. Well,

39:15

I just had one stock. That's

39:18

nice. See, our co-authors, they're pretty good. And as we

39:20

know, we have to work really hard. I had a

39:22

stock that I wanted to get an opinion on that

39:25

I'm really nervous about, but I think the upside is

39:27

huge. Do you own it already? I

39:29

have a little bit, but I'm thinking about going

39:32

all in. Okay. It's

39:36

P-C-I-U, and

39:40

it's put Cartman in

39:42

un-frosted. So if you remember the

39:44

Jerry Seinfeld pop-tart movie that came

39:46

out recently, had a lot of

39:49

appearances by different, like properties.

39:51

I didn't include mascots and stuff and

39:53

properties, but Cartman was notably

39:56

absent. And I think

39:58

it's why they struggled to kind of. Stay

40:01

on the charts. And so, you know, with the

40:04

technology they have now, especially AI, I

40:06

think you probably pretty easily insert him into

40:08

some of the scenes. Unofficially?

40:11

Officially. Go ahead

40:13

and tell me what you mean. So

40:15

do you want, is this more of

40:18

a almost fan fiction, not fan fiction.

40:20

No, it would have to be official.

40:22

I'd like to go through the proper

40:24

channels. Okay. Not that I'm doing it.

40:26

So you would market it that way.

40:28

You know how sometimes like they like

40:30

do American Pie Bandcamp and they've released

40:32

a DVD and someone would stamp it.

40:34

Yes. Unrated. If you got an unofficial

40:36

Cartman stamp, it's stamp it. Cartman edition.

40:39

But so if I open, if this is

40:41

successful, if I open Netflix and

40:44

I go to Unfrosted, if I click on

40:46

that movie, if it's successful, am

40:49

I seeing Cartman in that? I think part

40:51

of what he's saying is there would actually

40:53

be a Cartman cut that was available right

40:55

next to it. That's okay. That's like this

40:57

thing. How'd this get out of the lab?

40:59

Part of what is a little risky about

41:03

this property is Jerry

41:05

is going to be pronouncing it Cartman. Through

41:07

the entire movie. No one's going to tell

41:09

him how to say it. And so he

41:12

is going to be saying Cartman. It could

41:14

be good for engagement though. People are

41:16

often doing, they're doing things where they intentionally

41:19

make mistakes so people engage.

41:23

There's more comments, people are writing

41:25

in, it drives people talking about

41:27

online. It's rage bait. I

41:30

think it's a bad buy because it's a

41:32

holding company and they only have one

41:34

single business model. And that business

41:36

model is putting Cartman in Unfrosted.

41:39

And that's not a good business model. That

41:41

has no longevity. Because think about it this

41:43

way. It's a product. It's not a product.

41:46

You're buying the stock on the rumor, right?

41:48

The rumor is they're going to put Cartman

41:50

in Jerry Seinfeld's Unfrosted. Everybody's buying up the

41:53

stock. That's not

41:55

a bad idea though to do it. If you buy

41:57

it and it goes up, just make sure you get

41:59

out. But what else could they

42:01

put Carmen into? Or theoretically anything.

42:03

I mean, if they- It would

42:05

have to start with a U of its

42:08

PCIU. That's true. OK, well, you put it

42:10

well. Well, then you dropped the other one.

42:12

Uncharted and Underworld. Put them in the Tom

42:14

Holland, yeah, William Alberg, yeah, video game movie.

42:16

Uncharted. Unbreakable. Uncarded. Unbreakable. So now we're talking.

42:18

Except it is the other V-Carted. U-5-7-1. You

42:22

can revisit the Matthew McConaughey. Unbroken as

42:24

well, yeah. Unbroken. Yeah, yeah. Underworld?

42:26

Underworld, that's a great- Oh, the whole- The

42:29

whole- The whole franchise, yeah. But Carmen in

42:31

Up, he's already a cartoon. Oh, yeah. That's

42:33

true. It was right there. Dad, can you

42:35

imagine him using the F-slur? So do you

42:37

want to do this, S? I know, man.

42:40

Probably something where he gets in the thing

42:42

and it won't fly. And

42:44

all the friends are giving him- God damn

42:46

it. The friends are giving him grief. Because

42:49

he went to soup plantation one

42:52

too many times. He visited it. That was your issue

42:54

with it? That you

42:56

couldn't fly at a balloon? That

43:00

was the problem. I would load up on too

43:02

much ice cream and pizza. Ice cream and pizza

43:04

are the two things that you would eat at

43:06

the soup plantation. When you're 12, is

43:09

there anything better than ice cream and pizza unlimited? In

43:11

fact, your parents encourage you to eat as much ice

43:13

cream and pizza because they want to get their $40

43:15

worth. And

43:18

I would always get tricked- Yeah, I will say,

43:20

I would always get- And this is just my

43:22

opinion. Yes, fuck. But I would always get tricked

43:24

by that fucking long ass. They first

43:26

walked- Almost as an insult. They walk

43:29

you through that salad bar line that's

43:31

just never ending. And as a child,

43:33

I'm thinking, boy, soup plantation really is

43:35

just a lot of salad. And

43:38

I'm getting the tray and then they

43:40

finally unleash you onto the real treats,

43:42

the real goodies. And all the corners

43:44

are blind. That's the thing. So you

43:46

can't actually see- That's true. It's a

43:48

labyrinth. I remember that. And

43:50

they have so much salad. And that's how

43:52

they trick you. Because the salad is the

43:54

super- It fills you up. It's

43:56

the roughage. It's supper. And

43:59

they don't- I don't want you to be eating

44:01

the, but the Cartman's,

44:03

they know that the salad is just a ruse,

44:08

but they can't hurt us anymore, because they're out

44:10

of business. You've got a lot of unresolved supervision

44:12

stuff. What they become, that became something else, right?

44:14

Nothing, I think probably, I don't know,

44:16

they went the way of Sam Goody and the rest.

44:20

In Circuit City, you know? Yeah,

44:22

yeah. A hometown buffet,

44:25

I think, still exists, and now it's like Sisi's

44:27

Pizza and all that absolute dog

44:29

shit. Just give me

44:31

Dominoes. Just give me Dominoes. Just stole from Circuit

44:33

City. The day I die. What'd you steal? Battery

44:35

for a camera. Of course I love film. You

44:37

know what I used to do at Circuit City?

44:39

Of course I'm a film lover. This

44:42

is like cinema paradiso right here. You have

44:44

to make this. I know, I know. I've

44:46

been saying, this is your love letter. This

44:48

was so passionate, yeah. Ultimately,

44:50

the battery didn't fit. That's

44:54

okay. I had a scam

44:56

when I was a child with Circuit City.

44:58

I would buy a CD player, Sony Walkman,

45:01

and I would buy the warranty. He was trying

45:03

to put a D battery in a disposable camera.

45:05

That's what you thought D stood for. Disposable.

45:10

That's a big battery. Broke. It's

45:13

like something he would do. Just power it up right through the

45:15

camera. Why me? Because you're a big dumb

45:17

dumb. Anyway, I would

45:20

purposely break the CD player right at the

45:22

end, right almost at the end of the

45:24

warranty, and I'd take it back and they

45:26

would just give me the newer version, the

45:28

newer model, and I did that

45:30

for a few years. Oh

45:32

wow. Yeah, that's pretty nice. Well, I actually never

45:34

stole from them, and you have just confessed to

45:37

a crime. Assume me,

45:39

whatever. And a crime. And

45:42

by the way, I look forward to seeing

45:44

Circuit City open again. Now

45:46

that this thing is open. When they're on your

45:48

YouTube channel. Oh, that would suck for me. Man,

45:51

fuck that. Do you have another? Do

45:53

you have another? What's your next ticker that you

45:56

got? Do well. This

45:59

one's just... Gum. Just gum? Yeah,

46:01

I brought some on the bottom of my shoe so

46:03

we could kind of investigate it, but I just think

46:05

that like. That looks like a winner to

46:08

me. Yeah. You think gum is poised for a

46:10

comeback? G-U-M-M-M. I

46:13

mean, gum has longevity. Everybody

46:15

eats it, chews it, excuse me. In

46:17

my opinion, gum is

46:19

good. Okay, this guy just fucking. I

46:22

think gum, you could even. I went

46:24

to supplementation, got to the gum area.

46:27

Instead of just taking one

46:29

and chewing it. He's

46:31

like, I pocketed, loaded up his plate. Yeah.

46:34

That just ate it all. Of course he poops. Yeah. I

46:37

would say gum could have a little

46:39

bit of trouble with RFK. He's

46:42

coming after everything sugary. Oh my God.

46:44

It's gonna be all. Speaking of, you

46:46

know. Gem of

46:49

our politicians. Confirmed,

46:51

you know. Screw choosers. Yes,

46:54

enjoyers. Yeah. And

46:57

we know he goes down to San Diego

46:59

too because he has the

47:01

whale carcass. San Diego means whale's vagina

47:04

if you see an Anchorman. Yeah. So

47:06

it's like, oh, okay. So this guy is

47:09

like really. Bye. Take it all. Bye.

47:12

Whoa. Hollywood handbook. That

47:15

was a hate gum podcast. Hey.

47:20

Hey everyone, I'm Dan Licata. And

47:22

I'm Nick Nanny. And we are

47:24

the hosts of Chicken Padmégine now

47:27

on Headgum. It's the very first

47:29

podcast for and about Italian Americans.

47:32

That's right. Well, if you're not Italian American,

47:34

you can listen to, I guess. I

47:37

suppose we can let you in, cut you

47:39

a deal. We're talking about all sorts of

47:41

crazy topics on this. Who's a better cook,

47:43

Nonna or Mama? Who you got in that

47:46

fight, Nonna or Mama? I mean, I can't

47:48

say bad about Nonna or else she smacked

47:50

me across head. We got

47:52

some great guests on the show. We got

47:54

Wayne Diamond. We got Edie

47:56

Motica. We got Mike Anford. And

47:58

our wife, several. So subscribe

48:01

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48:03

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