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We took it all we brought
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It now with game pass. From
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the Free Press, this is Honestly, and
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I'm Barry Weiss. What's the deal
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with homework? What's the deal with decaf? So
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what's the deal with brunch? What's the deal with Aquaman?
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What's the deal with those guys? What's the deal
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with airplane peanuts? And what's the deal with lampshades?
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I mean, if it's a lamp, why do
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you want shade? What's
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the deal with Jerry Seinfeld? The
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first episode of Seinfeld aired in 1989. Do
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you know what this is all about? Do you know why we're here? To
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be out. This is out. And
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out is one of the single most
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enjoyable experiences of life. People, you
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know how we have people talk about, we should go out? This is
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what they're talking about. And ran for
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almost a decade. Very good. You know something? Nothing
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for you. Come back.
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One year. Next.
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One large jambalaya, please.
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35 years since that first episode,
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the show remains at the apex
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of American culture. Jerry, you are
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promoting a benefit to clow the
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homeless people. You
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can't come out dressed like that. You're
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all puffed up. You
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look like a Katamani Kristo. I
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have to wear it. The woman has orders for this shirt
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based on me wearing it on TV. They're
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producing them as we speak. People
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speak in Seinfeldisms. Hello and welcome to
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Seinfeld. Stay retrospective on all 180 episodes of
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Seinfeld being hosted by two guys who can
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barely run their own lives. They
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rewatch old episodes when they're feeling blue.
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Or in the case of my family, my
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dad has appointment viewing for the reruns, every
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night from 11 to 12 on
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the local Pittsburgh station. After
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what he calls second Seinfeld, he
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does waddle. It's
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a nightly ritual. People
2:19
around the world literally learn English
2:21
watching Seinfeld. I mean, my producer's
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friend who grew up in Saudi
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Arabia even loves the show. It's
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not hyperbole to say that Seinfeld is
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one of the most influential shows of
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all time. Now, there
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are a lot of reasons for this phenomenon. The
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main one, I think, is that the whole
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idea of the show was that it was
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about nothing. But that's what
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made it so universal. Because
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everyone, regardless of where you live, can
2:49
relate to trying to find your
2:51
car in a mall parking garage.
2:53
Everyone knows the feeling when their book
2:55
is overdue at the library and
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they don't want to pay
3:21
the overdue fee. Everyone
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can relate to the frustration of waiting for a
3:45
table at a restaurant that's not ready. This
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is special because they've been chosen. It's
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enough to make you sick. Boy,
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you are really hungry. If
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you don't love Seinfeld, something was wrong
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with you, which is
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why it was strange when a few
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months ago, Jerry
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Seinfeld suddenly became controversial.
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Here's what happened. In early October,
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Seinfeld signed a letter condemning Hamas
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and calling for the return of
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the hostages. For that
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supposed crime, the crime of saying
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that terrorism is evil and innocent
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people should be released, crowds
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started protesting the events he was attending,
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the speeches he was giving, even heckling
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him in public. A few
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weeks ago, when he gave the commencement address at
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Duke University, over
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the weekend, dozens of Duke University students
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staging a walkout as comedian
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Jerry Seinfeld began his commencement
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speech. Some
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students walked out in protest, and
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last week his stand-up set was disrupted
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by protesters calling him Genocide Jerry, to
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which Seinfeld quipped, I love a little
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Jew hate to spice up the show.
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The crowd applauded. Jerry
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Seinfeld made the most successful show
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about a Jew to ever exist.
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This was no small feat. One
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NBC executive, after watching the Seinfeld pilot
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for the first time, didn't even think
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it should go to air. He
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said it was, quote, to New York and
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to Jewish. And
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yet, it worked. And
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as Seinfeld made Jewishness an iconic
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part of American pop culture, Jerry
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says he experienced not a
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drop of anti-Semitism. But
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now, 35 years later,
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during a time that's supposed to be
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the most inclusive, the most sensitive, the
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most accepting, the most tolerant, the
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most free of microaggressions in all of human history,
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Jerry Seinfeld, the author of the book, was a very successful actress. Jerry
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Seinfeld is being targeted for
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being a Jew. Jerry
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often says that the audience is everything.
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That's the entire point of comedy. There's no
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joke if nobody laughs. It's
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what he calls a binary outcome event.
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They either laugh or they don't. But
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to them, honestly, I ask Seinfeld if he
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feels he can still trust the audience in
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an age where the audience can start to
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feel like a mob. Now
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you've probably heard or seen Jerry somewhere recently.
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The New Yorker, GQ, literally any podcast in
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the world. And that's because he has this
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new movie, Unfrosted, on Netflix, which I highly
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recommend. It's really delightful. So he's certainly been
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on a media blitz. So much show that
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he went on SNL to make fun of
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it. Guys, oftentimes when
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an actor is promoting a new movie, let's
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say a Netflix movie, they have to do
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a lot of press, sometimes too much press.
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Here to comment is a man who did
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too much press. But
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today's conversation with Jerry is unlike the
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ones you've heard. He's unfiltered,
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he's emotional, and he's speaking
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his mind. I love this conversation.
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I'm so excited to share it with you. Stay
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Jerry Seinfeld, welcome to Honestly. Thank
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you Barry. It's my pleasure to be here. How's the
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coffee? That's pretty good. Yeah? Yeah.
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We're meeting at a particular moment in which Trump's
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probably going to be president, maybe. I don't
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like that kind of talk. Okay. Trump
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may or may not be president. Ivy League jihadis are
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sort of marching through campuses in the street. You
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know, it's not exactly a relaxing
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moment and you go and make
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a movie about breakfast. You've just
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come out with this incredible movie
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called Unfrosted. Unfrosted. Why?
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Why a movie about breakfast and Pop-Tarts? In
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the early days of comedy, we often
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would get gigs called Nooners. Have
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you ever heard of a Nooner? I'm guessing it's in the middle
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of the day. It's in the middle of the day. A lot
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of times it was a school of some kind and
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of course we would do them. And
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I remember doing one and I
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was doing this bit and I think
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it was about cereal. And
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this big woman stood up in
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the middle of the thing and
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she says, why are you talking about this? And
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I said, because I like to. And did she
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walk out? No. And Paul
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Reiser, a good friend of mine said to me years
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later, he says, that's when I realized what a real
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comedian is. That's
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the answer to the question. You wanted to. Because
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I want to. That's why I made a
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Pop-Tart movie, because I want to. Well, it
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has this amazing cast. It's Amy Schumer,
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it's Bill Burr, it's Jim Gaffigan, it's
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Hugh Grant, who's amazing. It's
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so good. Oh, thanks. Thanks. And
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it's just a total distraction from everything going on
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right now. Yeah. We
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started in COVID because I couldn't take the sad faces.
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And in comedy, we hate that. We
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can't fix the world, but we just want
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to make a face happy. him
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just for a few minutes. I was
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saying to a friend of mine today at
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breakfast that it's one of the greatest Jewish
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traditions, why there's so
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many Jewish comedians and such a great
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tradition of comedy in the culture of
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Jewish people is with
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all their crap that they had to live with,
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they used their incredible brains to
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make each other laugh. You do
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what you have to do and
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save a big part of your head to
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laugh because that will get you
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through a lot of things. Here's
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one thing I was thinking as I was watching
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the movie laughing, my wife and I loved it,
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is this. I'm watching Walter Cronkite
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and I'm watching JFK and I'm
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thinking like just this period of
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like early 60s,
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right stuff, calm wool
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and obviously there were problems like
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civil rights movement had yet to start like
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a zillion. But the thing that was present
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at that time that I feel like is
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it now is a sense of one conversation,
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like a common culture and I was
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watching it and thinking on the one
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hand maybe it's just Jerry Seinfeld wanting
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to have fun and enjoy himself and
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fulfill this many, many, many, many years
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long development of his pop-tart bit. But
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on the other hand I couldn't help
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but wonder if part of it is
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maybe your own nostalgia for this time
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that feels like another planet or at
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least another country. Well of course it does.
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But there's another element there that I think
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is the key element and
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that is an agreed upon hierarchy,
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which I think is absolutely vaporized
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in today's moment. And I think
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that is why people lean on
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the horn and drive in
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the crazy way that they drive because
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we have no sense of hierarchy and
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as humans we don't really feel comfortable
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like that. Walter Cronkite,
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we all agree this guy's a
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real reporter. He's a real anchorman
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on a real news show. Although
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in Unfrosted he's like a drunk who's playing with
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silly bloody... And he has some marital issues.
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Yeah. He was so good. Thank
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you. So that is part of
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what I think is, if
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you want to talk about nostalgia, that's part
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of what makes that moment attractive
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looking back. And the other thing is, as
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a man, can
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I say that? Are you sure you
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are? Yeah. I always wanted to be. I
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didn't ask your pronouns before. I've always wanted
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to be a real man. I never made
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it. But I
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really thought when I was in
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that era, again, it was
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JFK, it was Muhammad Ali,
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it was Sean Connery, Howard
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Costello. You can go all the way down there. That's a
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real man. I want to be like
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that someday. Well,
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no. Look at how I'm dressed like
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an eight-year-old. You're not usually though. You're
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old-school, I think in the way you present
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yourself, and certainly in your comedy. Yeah. But
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I never really grew up. I mean,
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you don't want to as a comedian because it's
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a childish pursuit. But
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I miss a dominant masculinity.
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Yeah, I get the toxic, thank you. But
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still, I like a real man. And that's
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why I love Hugh Grant, because he felt
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like one of those guys I wanted to
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be. He knows
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how to dress. He
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knows how to talk. He's charming. He has
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stories. He's comfortable at dinner
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parties, knows how to get a drink. You
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know what I mean? That stuff. I love
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those movements of style. I
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like people that have a little style in
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everything that they do. Have a
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little style. No, I was talking to a young comedian.
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We were talking about profanity in your
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comedy. Why don't you curse? It's not
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about, I find the words offensive.
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Your job is to have a little style. That's
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why you don't curse. Do you think it's a crutch? It can be.
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So if that's what you're after, if your goal is
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to be a stylish speaker, I don't
13:58
know what else a comedian would be. stylish
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speaker. Maybe use
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finer fabrics. You said
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something the other day that I just stuck out to
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me. You said, film doesn't occupy the
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pinnacle in the social, cultural hierarchy, speaking of hierarchy, that
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it did for most of our lives. When a movie
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came out, if it was good, we all went to
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see it. We all discussed it. We quoted lines and
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scenes we liked. Now, and this is
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the part I really liked, we're walking through a
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fire hose of water just trying to see. Disorientation
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replaced the movie business. Everyone in show business
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every day, and we're here in LA, is
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going, what's going on? How
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do you do this? What are we supposed to do
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now? I wanted to put the question to you. What
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are we supposed to do now? Because I
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imagine young comedians are asking you that, and
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they're studying your old Wikipedia page as I
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did for journalists I wanted to be like.
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I realized they were all irrelevant
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because the old stepping stones had
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evaporated. All of the old rules
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seem to be gone. So what
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is the way forward? Well, I assume you're not
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speaking about the culture in general because I don't
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feel qualified to- I'm talking about comedy in movies.
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Okay. Let's talk about comedy and
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or movies. Luckily, mercifully,
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those rules are immutable. The
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rules of comedy are immutable, and
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the ecosystem of comedy is
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the most, not
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the most, but one of the most self-correcting
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ecosystems. The only
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one that is way, way better would
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be the NFL. If you don't belong in
15:25
the NFL, and you are in the NFL,
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how long does it take them to notice
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you really don't belong on that field?
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Fast, right? Comedy is
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a slower, the wheels
15:38
of justice grind slower, but they do
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turn. So same rules as always.
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The rules are either
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you're funny or I'm not getting in
15:47
my car to go see this.
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Let's talk about your work and the philosophy
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you have around your work. A
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decade ago, you did this interview with the New York Times. And
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you talked about how you didn't use computers. You
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used a legal pad and a big ballpoint pen. Is
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that still true? It's still true, yes. Why
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do you like to write like that? It's nice. You know, when
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you write comedy, it's, forgive
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this pretentious analogy, it's a little like poetry.
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You don't do a lot of writing. It's
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90% thinking, 10% actual
16:18
writing. But the feeling of a
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ballpoint pen on a thick yellow
16:23
pad is very pleasant. It's
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like a warm bath to me. Do
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you have a special place that you like to write? Yes,
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I do. But I could write right here if you all
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would leave me alone and give me a
16:35
flat surface. I'm good to go. This
16:37
is the other thing I believe in. There's
16:40
no writer's block. There's no
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writer's block. It's lazy, they're scared,
16:44
but there's no writer's block. Just
16:46
sit down and realize you're mediocre and you're going to have
16:48
to put a lot of effort into this to make it
16:50
good. That's what writing is. Everything
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I've read about you makes
16:55
me feel like if you were an
16:57
animal. You're a lone wolf. Do
16:59
you agree with that? If I wasn't,
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I'd have a rough go in this racket. It's
17:05
a lone wolf racket. I'm
17:07
only really comfortable, really comfortable
17:09
with another stand-up comedian or
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a love. You have compared
17:13
the way you write jokes to mastering calligraphy
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or building, and I loved this because I
17:18
had to look them up, tiny Japanese cricket
17:20
cages. You said, that's it
17:23
for me. Solitude and precision, refining a
17:25
tiny thing for the sake of it.
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Someone that likes to be alone and
17:30
mastering something very much, is everything else
17:32
that you do with other people a
17:35
kind of suffering? Yes. Is
17:37
it? Thank you for that. I'm
17:39
acknowledging you. Thank you for that. I'm seeing
17:41
you. That really felt good. Yeah. So
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how do you do it? Life. Well,
17:46
I'm married. My wife needs
17:48
a human being, so I have
17:50
to impersonate one. Well, that was one of my
17:52
questions. Hearing about what truly gives
17:54
you pleasure. You've talked a lot
17:57
about how you watch surfers and sort of
17:59
like their math. And how
18:01
what all it's all right and how the
18:03
thing for you is not it's not the
18:05
money. It's not the stuff No, it's the
18:07
solitude and the mastery right right I could
18:09
imagine someone like that actually never getting married
18:11
and have kids be dead because of that
18:13
woman I met if I hadn't
18:15
met Jessica. I don't think I could have done
18:17
it. Yeah, I met someone that I could never
18:19
leave and Second that looked
18:21
like she could handle the nightmare
18:24
that I was gonna be There's
18:26
this Flow
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bear quote. I can't believe I'm saying that but
18:32
I'm saying it. Wow. You just beat
18:34
me in pretentious. I did I'm gonna
18:36
see if I can even outdo myself I've obviously
18:38
never read madam Bovary But I do really really
18:40
love the sentiment of this quote Which
18:43
is be regular and orderly in your
18:45
life so you can be violent and
18:47
original in your work I've heard that one you think it's
18:49
true No, but you
18:51
do seem very old-school and disciplined in
18:53
the way you live your life, do
18:56
you think that that sort of Discipline
18:58
allows you to be risk-taking in your
19:00
comedy comedy by definition is risk-taking.
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Mmm Thanks. I mean that you think is
19:05
funny expecting it to get a laugh. That's
19:08
a crazy bet. Yeah, make yeah in
19:11
any context Yeah, any context
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the bets that I see people making just in
19:16
conversation Regular people are insane to me
19:18
like what like they tell you a story and you
19:20
go Why would you tell
19:22
that story? It's a horrible story. It has
19:24
no finish. It wasn't interesting in any way
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I'm thinking of something specifically. Well, of course,
19:29
but let's just go back a bit about
19:32
discipline. Yeah all endeavor in human
19:34
life is You
19:37
find chaos and you try and create some order
19:40
even if it's a chaotic order it
19:42
could be a pleasing chaos or a Beautiful
19:46
chaos, but it can't be as
19:48
you find it. Here's one of my favorite jokes
19:51
This would encapsulate worldview.
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I think it's a you know, some Pastor
19:56
vicar one of those things, you know, I don't
19:58
know why those makes jokes It's funnier when it's
20:00
a vicar. Vicar's a buddy. Yeah. So
20:03
he's got this beautiful garden, magnificent garden. And
20:05
this other guy walks up and he's admiring
20:07
it. And he looks at the garden and
20:09
he goes, boy, God's
20:11
best work, huh? And the vicar
20:13
looks up to him and says, you should have seen it when he
20:16
was in charge of it. That's
20:20
how I look at what you should do with
20:22
your life. It's all beautiful,
20:24
but not really until we do
20:26
something with it. Make
20:29
something, do something. The hard is the good. I
20:32
think I was about eight. And
20:34
I remember where I was, I remember the exact
20:36
street and I was on my bike just
20:39
pedaling. I remember it hitting
20:41
me that there was a lot going on
20:44
and I just, I want to do something really hard. And
20:47
then I thought, what would be the least work?
20:49
And you thought stand up. And comedy is the
20:51
least work. That's crazy. How could you
20:53
say that? Because I fell in love with it. But it's
20:55
not. I don't even think about it. I
20:57
don't even think. No. I
21:00
felt like a fish and I finally got into the
21:02
aquarium. And once I was in it, I
21:04
thought, just tell me what you have to do to
21:06
stay in this aquarium and I'll do it. Sarah
21:09
Silverman once called you the least neurotic Jew
21:11
on earth. I don't know inside
21:13
if you're churning all the time, but you
21:15
seem kind of unflappable. I would enter that
21:17
contest. Should they organize it? I'll organize
21:19
it. I would like to enter it. Who else would
21:22
compete with me? I don't know. Paul
21:24
Rudd? No. I didn't even know he was
21:26
Jewish. That's how neurotic he is. He probably
21:28
is. Who else? Who
21:31
else? Name another insane Jew
21:33
that somehow seems calm. No,
21:36
I almost know what I know. They're the
21:38
most neurotic. So I'm the one. So why
21:40
are you so unflappable? I don't know. I mean,
21:42
who knows why we're the way we are. I don't know.
21:44
But I've been doing transcendental meditation since 72.
21:48
I know. Religiously. That's
21:51
got to have affected my nervous system.
21:54
But I'm so dedicated to it. So
21:58
it really keeps the feathers down. It
22:00
keeps the quills down. Do you
22:02
do TM every day? Multiple times. Really? Day,
22:05
night, morning. Are you doing it like- I did it
22:07
right before I came here. Really? Because I was up
22:09
till two last night. We did the Hollywood Bowl. I
22:12
was drinking and pizza and laughing and
22:14
madness. I slept three hours,
22:17
but I want to be good for you. Thank you. I
22:19
did a nice TM and I feel great. TM
22:22
and coffee is
22:24
my solution to life. If
22:27
you want to succeed in life, number one, learn
22:29
TM number two, get a good cup of coffee,
22:32
and then get to work. And Mary Well?
22:34
Is Mary Well even part of it? No,
22:36
it's everything. We always say, of course,
22:38
that's the most important thing. Do you think
22:41
it's the most important decision that a person can
22:43
make? No, a thousand percent. Okay. I
22:45
want to talk about New York for a second because we're sitting in
22:48
LA and it's gorgeous. How important is
22:50
place to your work? I was with
22:52
you up till two your work. Take
22:55
two your work off and I think you
22:57
have something. How important is place? Yes. Jerry,
23:00
how important is place? Hugely
23:04
essential, cataclysmically relevant
23:06
and potent to
23:08
your psychophysical
23:12
well-being and productiveness. Here's
23:15
my analogy. One of my great
23:18
friends and writers on the TV series was
23:20
a guy named Larry Charles and he dubbed
23:23
me analogy lad. If I was a superhero,
23:25
I would be analogy lad. An
23:27
analogy lad can't help you with
23:29
anything but he can tell you what
23:31
your situation is like. So
23:35
as analogy lad, the
23:37
importance of place to me, the analogy
23:39
is the tuning fork. You
23:42
have a rhythm. You
23:46
have a frequency. You have a vibration
23:48
as a human being. When
23:51
you are in the place that
23:53
your frequency vibration matches the frequency
23:56
vibration of the place, you
23:58
feel comfortable. agree
24:00
with this, but there's another school of thought,
24:02
which is that you should be
24:04
in a place that somehow, like if you
24:06
are run hot, that
24:08
somehow being in a chiller,
24:10
more relaxed environment is
24:13
healthier for you. What
24:16
school of thought is this? I don't know. This is
24:18
how Nelly convinced me to be in LA and I'm moving
24:20
back to New York. Okay, I agree.
24:22
Schools of thought. How about it's just a
24:25
thought? Well, sure. There's no school based on
24:27
it. I'm making a school. Okay, you're the
24:29
only one. I would like to be in
24:31
a jail cell with you for the rest
24:33
of my life. I don't think that's true.
24:35
I would. If we were in prison together,
24:37
I would think... Because I'll talk at you
24:39
the whole time? Yes, we'll just talk our
24:41
heads off all day. We would talk our
24:43
heads off all day. I'd be very happy.
24:45
That's so nice. Thank you. You're welcome.
24:48
Okay, well, you wrote this
24:50
op-ed in COVID. Mm-hmm. It was so much
24:52
fun because you were taking aim
24:54
at, well, one specific putz who doesn't need
24:57
to be named, but you took aim
24:59
at... I like that handle. Why not?
25:01
Specific putz. Why do we need to name?
25:03
But it was more broadly at all the
25:05
people that had decamped for whether it was
25:07
Austin or Miami or whatever. And you said,
25:09
when I got my first apartment in Manhattan
25:11
in the hot summer of 1976, there was
25:13
no poop or scooper law and the streets
25:15
were covered in dog shit. You said crap.
25:18
I signed the rental agreement, walked outside and my
25:20
car had been towed. I still thought this is
25:22
the greatest place I've ever been in my life.
25:24
I love that so much. Why
25:27
is it the best place? Well,
25:30
it's the clientele. You can't beat
25:32
the clientele. The
25:35
clientele that you interface
25:37
with just visually,
25:40
spatially on the streets,
25:42
they just get me going. I
25:44
love them. They're funny looking. They're
25:46
funny people. They're just what I
25:48
like as people. That's of course
25:50
the core of New York City
25:52
and they like it. And
25:55
I like it. I'm with them. It's like when
25:57
I go to a Met game. We all love
25:59
the Mets here. It's such a nice feeling.
26:02
But New York City to me is
26:04
a deep rooted core
26:06
of things I believe in, which
26:08
is overcoming intensity.
26:12
It's a very Jewish city. Jews
26:14
thrive there. When they
26:16
came from Europe and the Middle East, they
26:19
loved it because it's business, it's
26:21
work, it's complexity, everything
26:23
that Jews thrive on. I
26:26
did and I felt like I grew up
26:29
on Long Island, and I was never comfortable
26:31
there. I felt stifled for
26:33
some reason. I felt
26:36
like New York took me
26:38
and made me. I
26:40
wanted to be this guy. I
26:42
wanted to be a New Yorker. Every New Yorker, a
26:45
lot of them come from other places, wanting to be
26:47
this type. I feel like I
26:49
travel the world showing people, this is what
26:52
New Yorkers are like. If
26:54
you want to see something unusual, it's something
26:56
that you don't see every day. I
26:59
will represent that. How much
27:01
material do you get just from being
27:03
around other people on the streets? It's
27:06
the attitude. Everybody's funny in New York.
27:09
Yeah. To be a comedian, you've got
27:11
to be even funnier. You
27:14
got to really bring it. I'm
27:16
going into a Met game the other day,
27:18
and I get to the gate, and there's
27:20
a short woman at the gate, and I
27:22
go, oh, damn, I forgot my phone. I
27:25
go, ah, the hell with it. What do I need a
27:27
phone? I'm going to go watch a baseball game. She goes,
27:29
go get your phone. Get your phone. I
27:31
go, why? He goes, because your wife's going to
27:33
call, and she's going to go, why didn't you
27:36
answer? I kept calling you. This
27:38
is the lady that tears the ticket. Yeah. That's
27:41
how funny she is. This
27:44
is New York for me, and
27:46
that's my lifeblood. I
27:48
got to be around that. Yeah. How
27:50
do you feel when you're in LA? I did great here, and
27:53
I have all my friends are here. There's a lot
27:55
of comedy here, but it's not
27:57
a funny town. You also think it's a
27:59
dumb town? It's
28:02
not dumb, it's just the things that it's focused
28:04
on are dumb. They're not easy, but they're dumb.
28:06
You know, all your stupid
28:08
shows. Stop with your
28:10
stupid shows. It's not that
28:12
great. Stop
28:16
overselling everything. Everywhere you
28:18
go, they're selling. Yeah, they just really
28:20
exhaust themselves. I feel
28:22
there's, what's the word? Thirteen N.
28:25
Yes, the Desp, as my kids would say.
28:27
The Desp. I love that. The
28:30
Desp, it's Desp. It's the Desp. It's so thick.
28:33
It's unattractive. It's unattractive. Don't be
28:35
Desp. Be cool. Be cool.
28:38
I agree. Comedians
28:41
are not chic. We
28:43
are not stylish in our clothes or
28:45
in our manners. But you're not Desp.
28:47
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There's a lot of talk in your world, the
30:15
comedy world, about this idea of punching down. Obvious
30:25
example, Chappelle, in his most recent special,
30:27
The Closer, accused of punching down against
30:29
trans people. They try and get him
30:31
to apologize. He says, absolutely not. Netflix,
30:34
thank God, says absolutely not. Do
30:36
you think punching down is a thing? Is
30:38
that a real phenomenon? No.
30:42
I don't. Comedy
30:44
is an extraordinarily
30:47
simple binary outcome
30:49
event. Is
30:52
it funny? Or it isn't? And
30:55
nobody cares, really, about
30:57
anything else. They
30:59
talk. This is not a talk.
31:02
What we really hate is
31:04
when someone does something that's not so funny,
31:07
and we didn't laugh, and now I'm going to
31:10
criticize it. Because that didn't make me
31:12
laugh. The only thing I
31:14
want to read is the absolute worst reviews
31:17
that the movie received, because there's nothing funnier
31:19
to me than people complaining that I didn't
31:21
laugh, because they want to laugh. And I
31:24
relate to it. I get it. It's
31:26
funny that you hated it,
31:29
because you wanted to laugh and you didn't
31:31
laugh. Okay, but you actually
31:33
will read bad reviews. Oh, yeah. Really?
31:36
They're funny. Have you always been like that?
31:38
Yes, it doesn't matter what you think of
31:40
me. Why would I think that I'm going
31:42
to make something that everyone will like? What
31:45
sense does that make? Okay, but- You've got
31:47
to be insane to think that. But hold on. When you were
31:49
just starting out, just in the
31:52
very, very beginning, do you
31:54
feel that way? Or is this a luxury of having the
31:56
kind of success that you've had? That
31:58
it's funny. Right. Yeah
32:01
as a stand-up comic. Yeah, you
32:03
don't give up flying what anybody
32:05
thinks of me. I'm
32:07
doing this gig I'm getting my
32:09
laughs. I'm getting the money and I'm getting
32:11
the hell out of here and when your
32:13
review comes out I'm in another
32:15
city Doing the same
32:17
thing So there's
32:20
no one Opinion that
32:22
has any value Comedians
32:24
live on its group
32:26
think whatever the group says that's
32:28
the vote We don't have to
32:31
take a vote the vote has been taken
32:33
on that joke. Mmm, you can hate it
32:36
It's still a great joke because the laugh
32:38
is there For your
32:41
audience any audience if
32:44
you get your laugh This
32:46
is no debate. No discussion. We had a we were
32:48
doing a shot in the movie one time and I
32:51
go I love this. This is so funny and
32:54
Somebody else goes I don't
32:56
think it works. It's just like five or six people
32:58
standing around the monitor I go play the shot. They
33:01
play the shot everybody laughs
33:04
What is on the adult? I don't
33:06
have to say I'm not gonna talk about it. My
33:09
opinion doesn't matter They
33:11
decide. Mmm So
33:14
the show is written by the audience. Everything's
33:16
written by the audience. That's what's difficult about
33:18
movie making You don't have the audience. You
33:21
don't have the guy the way you do in stand. Yeah, you don't
33:23
have the guys Yeah, so what do you end up is so easy
33:25
in Quotes because
33:27
their audience is guiding you every
33:29
second You're the only person in the
33:32
history of humanity that gets a grade
33:34
every seven seconds a
33:37
grade You have to
33:39
be a certain type of person that is comfortable with that
33:41
I mean do you ever have
33:43
a situation at this point in your career?
33:46
Were you actually bomb in the
33:48
way you know early? No, I'm not bomb but
33:50
I I have a lot of shows that I'm
33:52
not happy with really Yeah, cuz
33:54
I'm trying to get to a rhythm
33:56
and a flow and a feel and a mood
33:58
and you know I
34:00
seek this kind of feeling in the
34:02
room. If you can get there 85%, that's
34:04
pretty good. There's
34:08
no a hundred. Nobody
34:10
bets a thousand. I mean, you know, comedy, it's a
34:12
live show. Yeah, of course. Walking into a room in
34:14
Toronto, you've never seen it in your life. It's
34:18
hard, you know, but that's, I like the difficulty
34:20
of it. I know that
34:22
the formula for comedy, as you've explained to
34:24
me, is so simple. It's binary. Do people
34:27
laugh or not laugh? But the
34:29
nature of what comics will do, you could
34:31
argue has changed. And I'll give you one
34:34
tiny anecdote. I was at the olive tree
34:36
above the comedy cellar a few nights ago,
34:38
a bunch of comedians there was super fun.
34:40
And this guy comes up and we're talking and
34:42
you know, he's like, he basically is talking really
34:44
freely. And I'm like, wow, not, not what I
34:46
thought this guy believed based on the kind of
34:48
material he does. And he goes, oh yeah, I
34:51
would never say any of this on stage. I'm
34:53
like, why? He's like, Oh, cause I want to
34:55
have a career. Right. Talk
34:57
to me if you could, and I
34:59
understand your grandfathered in, so it's a different
35:01
thing, but like you're
35:03
around young comedians, you're around comedians.
35:05
Like how much of the censoriousness
35:08
has seeped into what you think
35:10
comedians will talk about, will play
35:12
with on stage. Is that
35:14
a real thing or is it not
35:16
a real thing? It's not a real thing.
35:18
Okay. It's not a real thing because culture,
35:21
as we know, it's not a solid. It's
35:23
a liquid. Yes. It does not ever stay
35:25
anything. And if you want to be in
35:27
this, you better be able to pick
35:29
up on it and play with it. I
35:32
apologize for yet one
35:34
more surfing analogy. We
35:37
don't make the waves. You ride it. We ride them.
35:40
That's the game. But
35:43
you would agree, I think that
35:46
there are certain places
35:48
or subcultures, let's say campus
35:50
where it wouldn't be
35:52
that fun to play as a comic because the
35:55
audience, no, tell
35:57
me. It's
36:00
so hard to explain comedy. Okay,
36:04
last night, Nate Bargazzi,
36:07
everybody was going crazy over this bit he was doing.
36:09
You know what the bit was about? No. It
36:11
was about a man
36:13
fighting an orangutan, that this was a thing
36:16
in the 50s, that
36:18
people would go in a cage and fight
36:20
an orangutan to entertain other people. Now,
36:23
what does that have to do with anything?
36:25
Nothing. It was fantastic. Everyone
36:27
was roaring. We're going, oh,
36:29
Nate, the orangutan bit is so great. That's
36:33
comedy. So you're looking
36:35
at a culture on a textbook
36:37
page. This guy's looking at orangutans
36:39
in the 50s. No, I'm
36:41
thinking, okay, fine. Okay. That's
36:44
where the gold was for him
36:46
last night. But you
36:48
could imagine, pick your
36:50
person. I don't know if it's Louis C.K. or
36:53
Shane Gillis or whoever it is, that
36:55
whether because of their personal behavior or
36:57
even their material happening at
37:00
the wrong time for the gatekeepers of the
37:02
culture that they were punished for it.
37:04
Yeah. Guess what? If you stumble over
37:06
one word, you're punished for it. My
37:09
punch line is, and that was just
37:11
in the lobby. But
37:14
I go, and that was just in the lobby.
37:17
If I do that, no laugh, zero. Same
37:20
idea, same words, they get it,
37:22
but that little hitch. Dead.
37:25
You go from one to zero, binary
37:27
outcome. That's the comedy
37:29
game. So what you're talking about
37:32
is so irrelevant, totally irrelevant. A
37:35
lot of whining and excuse making for,
37:37
it's just not funny. It's
37:39
not funny. You're not funny. Really?
37:42
You don't think that there's been a wave
37:45
of people getting the shit
37:47
end of the stick over the past few years, 10 years
37:50
even? If you're funny, genuinely
37:53
funny, none of these things are difficult
37:55
to overcome. If you're kind
37:57
of funny. Then
38:00
you got problems. But that's what
38:02
it comes down to. It's the funny. The
38:04
funny is it. If
38:07
you talk and we laugh, we're all
38:09
good. But if we
38:11
don't laugh, or we're offended and
38:13
don't laugh, whatever the reason, you know how
38:15
many reasons there are to not laugh? A
38:18
lot. A lot. And there's only one
38:20
to laugh. Which is
38:22
that it's funny. It's funny. Okay. Let's talk about some
38:24
of the things that make us not laugh right now.
38:27
So nice
38:29
transition. You made Seinfeld
38:31
during a period that I think
38:34
will be remembered as the golden
38:36
age of American Jewish life. Because
38:39
anti-Semitism was a relic. Seemingly
38:42
a relic of history books. I
38:44
think people felt like history
38:46
had ended and the American
38:48
Jewish experience was fundamentally singular
38:51
and different from any other
38:53
diaspora experience. Right. Of course. And
38:56
well, I wonder, A, if you
38:59
thought about the Jewishness of the show. Never. Okay. And
39:01
do you think about it differently now? Now that
39:04
that period's over. Yeah. Well, when
39:06
I first time I went to Israel after
39:08
I had done, finished the show and
39:10
I saw the way they reacted to
39:12
me and I realized this is not
39:14
just the normal interaction of celebrity public,
39:17
you know, interface. This is
39:20
different. How? I meant
39:22
something which I never knew
39:24
and it gave
39:27
me a wonderful feeling like,
39:29
Oh, I didn't realize
39:31
what I was doing had another
39:33
value that I didn't know about.
39:35
And I, of course, loved it.
39:39
You have always seemed,
39:43
forgive the comparison, but kind of like Dolly Parton
39:45
to me. Everyone loves you. I'm
39:47
not comfortable with this. Be comfortable. Just
39:50
go with me. All right. Go ahead. Can
39:52
you use someone else? Yeah, sure. Gandhi.
39:56
Sure. Just you're just like Gandhi. When
39:58
I see Jerry Seinfeld, I think. Gandhi,
40:00
I think, just as felt, just
40:03
as aesthetic, just as monastic. I
40:05
guess what I mean is just apolitical, I
40:07
guess is the word, like above the fray. And
40:12
everything feels politicized right now. And
40:15
so you yourself have become politicized
40:17
in a way. A little bit, yeah.
40:20
Do you feel that? I do. It's
40:22
so dumb. It's so dumb. In
40:25
fact, when we get protesters occasionally,
40:27
I love to say to the
40:29
audience, who's always so embarrassed, when
40:32
you walk out on stage, if they were like doing their
40:34
little thing in the front, the audience
40:36
just feels they feel so bad that
40:38
that happened. And I say
40:41
to them, you know, I love that these
40:43
young people, they're trying to get engaged with
40:45
politics. We have to just correct
40:47
their aim a little bit. They
40:51
don't seem to understand that as comedians,
40:53
we really don't control anything. No
40:57
one's really... No, you're pulling the strings
40:59
over the war in Gaza, right? That's
41:01
how I think of you. Yeah. Yeah.
41:04
So I just find it comical that
41:06
people would cast me in a political
41:08
light. But
41:13
I love to say, if that helps you. It
41:16
helped me when you signed this letter in
41:18
October, doing something that I
41:20
thought was just normal and sane. You signed
41:22
a letter condemning Hamas. Right. You
41:24
said, this is terrorism, or the letter did. This is
41:26
evil. Yeah. There's no justification for
41:29
Hamas's actions. These are barbaric acts of
41:31
terrorism. I mean, the most basic things in the
41:33
world. Right. And yet, that seemed
41:35
controversial to people. You've done a
41:37
bunch of shows, obviously, you're constantly doing
41:39
shows. You did one in Syracuse in
41:41
December that attracted protesters. And then they
41:44
were chanting that you're complicit in genocide.
41:47
Then when I gave this talk in February
41:49
at the Y, There was this
41:51
footage of you that I didn't see. But I
41:53
Thought later, were they were calling you a genocide
41:55
supporter and Nazi scum. And The thing that jumped
41:57
out at me was not the things they were
41:59
saying, of course, because they say it's not. anyone
42:01
here is that you were smiling and waving and
42:03
genuinely seems to be enjoying yourself. Year were
42:05
you Via was a. It
42:08
suffered so silly his
42:10
side's they want of
42:12
express this sincere intense
42:15
rage but again. A.
42:17
Little off target practice. Nice
42:20
little off target that's to
42:22
me comedic. Ten.
42:24
Years ago. In. Florida there was
42:27
this Nazi rally and they've had is T
42:29
V D's of Seinfeld and they threw them
42:31
through the windows that the synagogue the whole
42:33
spectacle of it's like freely crazy yes this
42:36
really happened. I guess I'm wondering like if
42:38
your perspective is shifting on them from the
42:40
funny to the oh maybe that was. I
42:43
don't I am not a oh yeah. Ok,
42:45
what would take you to a. More
42:47
things like Pittsburgh. A
42:49
cat. Tree of Life more
42:51
more of is that started in
42:54
a got ya the synagogue. I
42:56
mean you could certainly accused me
42:58
of being polio in his and
43:00
naive. I'm I'm weird
43:02
combination of incredibly cynical and irritable
43:04
and utterly optimistic and positive as
43:06
at the same time and kind
43:09
of a weird for a pay
43:11
but I don't have that the
43:13
oh of read the ah ha
43:15
and now we're going to the
43:17
Oh. You were in Israel. Yeah,
43:19
since the war started in. Hell is that track? Of
43:23
the most powerful. Experience
43:25
of my life. Real answer.
43:30
Why? I'm. You
43:34
know this is. Basic.
43:45
You know someone particular. Or.
44:00
One. Thing that I've been thinking about
44:02
is. How.
44:06
A huge part of the way you
44:08
think about comedy. Is. How the
44:10
audience never lies. The
44:13
great but what. Happens if
44:15
a lot of people. Are
44:17
wrong. In. Other words:
44:21
I don't think choose do well in
44:23
an age of math and I feel
44:26
that right now in our culture it's
44:28
really easy to for mass. Yes,
44:30
Really easy. But when does the audience
44:33
can a tip into the mob? you see where I'm going
44:35
with. I do. I do. Something Elon
44:37
Musk Three Salon which I think is
44:39
one of the wrong This thing as
44:41
it's ever been said where she tweets
44:43
Vox Populi Lox Day the Voice of
44:45
the People as the voice of God.
44:48
You know it's a populist movement and people.
44:51
A. Voice Of the People as the Voice of
44:53
God. I think that's like the opposite of
44:55
the truth. But
44:57
for someone that relies on the truth
44:59
telling of the audience to tell you
45:02
whether or not something is funny isn't.
45:05
Does that same principle applies?
45:07
To mass of people. Well.
45:10
You can't. Act
45:12
like we don't see this
45:15
every day in many Rome's.
45:18
Was. Just so politically left and
45:20
right. You're
45:23
watching mobs, Their. Mobs will
45:25
take their mobs believing their own
45:27
crap, right? Yeah, that's what a
45:29
political party is since we're going
45:31
to make up a bunch of
45:34
nonsense and will all agreed to
45:36
it, right? right? Ok, let's let's
45:38
put up some bumper stickers and
45:40
get out their kids. Thus far
45:42
as x were tribal animals were
45:44
social creatures, we look for agreement
45:46
and. Consensus were driven by
45:49
agreement and consensus and mob rule
45:51
gives us comfort, gives a certain
45:54
to yes, it's all bs. To
45:57
be and. I think there's something like almost
45:59
in there. About comedians that make them
46:01
allergic to I. Feel. Weird
46:04
is that come from inside a beer. For
46:06
here's where it comes from. The thing that
46:08
you are. Incredibly fortunate
46:10
enough to have. If you
46:12
spend your life. In
46:15
Comedy and Do well. Added the gift
46:17
that you were given. His
46:19
You see through the surface of
46:21
everything. Everything. Life
46:24
itself. If you could
46:26
hear. The. Conversations that comedians
46:29
have you would feel like
46:31
it took the most cleansing
46:33
rain shower of your life.
46:36
Because is there? It is
46:38
so peeled away of the
46:40
surfaces and the gauzy, phony
46:43
planes of existence that most
46:45
people deal with. and on.
46:48
And comedians just suck it all the residue
46:50
as yours comedy product in your act and
46:53
hopefully they laugh at of entering realize what
46:55
they're laughing at as I'm saying into your
46:57
life in a way you can even see
46:59
it. You. Know. So.
47:04
When. You have that life
47:06
itself. Of
47:08
quote the a Jimi Hendrix. There are many
47:10
here among us who think life is but
47:13
a joke. So.
47:16
As. Much as you might. Feel.
47:18
The pain and certain things that you see that
47:20
you hate the you think are bad and. There's.
47:23
Another perspective of the
47:26
is this is ridiculous.
47:28
This is all ridiculous.
47:31
And. Less joke about. So
47:34
if you heard. Comedy
47:36
conversation the profanity have a
47:38
z z z. Misanthropy.
47:41
Of it. I think you'd
47:43
find it incredibly refreshing and. Sadly,
47:46
I. Never hear it anyplace else. Never
47:49
know. Everybody else
47:51
is like eight layers
47:53
of sake. Cream.
47:55
And and veneers totally of in
47:57
a waterproof would coding limo. That's
48:01
where most people live. That's.
48:03
Why they come to see a comedian Had as they
48:06
added, they know these things. Matter.
48:08
They know about my life that. Years.
48:10
Ago I used to do a bit about. Of.
48:13
When you're showered someone elses house.
48:15
And. This a little hair on the wall
48:17
over and how you get a cup of
48:20
water middle in the throes s i will
48:22
had isn't know that I was doing that
48:24
you know. That
48:27
the comedic a gift of that.
48:30
It's the supervision we have actually
48:32
visit. The.
48:34
Other night when I saw you used to hit something
48:36
that made me laugh as I was thinking about it
48:38
later. there's like how are you and your like? I'm
48:41
done. So sad I got
48:43
a. I'm not really even looking at a
48:45
percent like I'm almost seventy. Undead I could
48:47
to I could die in a size. Of
48:51
used to fizzle out of goes okay
48:53
but as is what I'm getting her.
48:56
The. You use kids. Okay,
48:58
that's a layer. That's. A
49:00
little that's not a bullshit layer. Do.
49:03
That. The real thing? it's have to be fun
49:05
idea. I did. And the
49:07
kids who does? Yeah, and if
49:09
you loved further. Thought
49:12
were cool. But. It could end tomorrow. right?
49:14
Now before I get out of sight. A want it
49:16
to. I don't either. But. But.
49:19
But it is. Are you to This
49:21
was raised? I do. I also love
49:23
deficits. I have so much death in
49:25
my egg that I have the added
49:28
some of it out because it's just
49:30
too much. As you know to love that
49:32
you've never experienced death. Is so funny? Really?
49:34
Yes And bags I have a bit
49:36
now that I'm doing I'm just trying
49:38
to explore it about when someone dies
49:40
and someone tells you Had to do
49:42
here who died? Sometimes we have to
49:45
hold down our enjoyment of that moment
49:47
as. You
49:49
wanna? do not want to let people see
49:51
that a while as chemical? Done
49:54
with that guy. An
49:57
admission that he said. But.
50:01
When you get on a cool. To
50:03
that I'm looking for those. oh that's
50:05
cool as the funny part. Yeah, that
50:07
kind of cool is really ideas. So
50:09
what Now that I'm talking about, how
50:11
does he know I felt that way
50:13
right in? And so if you can
50:15
go that to me as you can
50:17
go all the way into someone's head
50:19
and and go hey look I know
50:21
you are no you do in this
50:23
specific. To
50:26
your very happy person that
50:28
hates everything. When. You hit the
50:30
most like where are his ammonia like top the
50:32
modem. Okay, but you never bored
50:34
white. Assume you are. A
50:37
lot knew. How can you ever be bored? Because
50:39
those are the to have conversations
50:42
with people that wanna talk about
50:44
things that are on the surface.
50:47
Wouldn't. Do when you're in that situation, drink.
50:50
Or. Do you ever just like, go
50:52
right to death or go right to something real? I
50:54
start asking them, you know what do
50:56
you weigh. Yeah, you know what He
50:59
way are you still allows you? I know
51:01
Xanthan runners requests and yeah, And.
51:04
I'm. Just trying to get some getting along with
51:06
at work. I do that on the two months
51:09
Really? Okay, we're doing lightning
51:11
round reddit. Your. Favorite. Comedian
51:13
of all time. Robber. Clone.
51:15
You Love Mad Men! Favorite Character
51:17
episode. Any one
51:19
where he does the pits to a
51:21
client. In Nineteen Seventy Six, you
51:24
took a few Scientology classes. You remember
51:26
anything they taught you Tons. Like.
51:28
Always confront any problem. Avoid
51:31
avoidance. Makes. Robin grow
51:33
confronting and makes a shrink. You've
51:36
dabbled in Zen Buddhism night to
51:38
the savored Buddha's teaching. Yes,
51:41
before enlightenment carry. Water
51:43
and. And what's the other thing?
51:46
They do? They sweep. After.
51:48
Enlightenment. Terry. Water and
51:50
sweet. As a bars
51:52
or fairway. They
51:54
bars. Woody Allen Innocent or guilty.
51:57
Don't care. Favorite baseball player.
52:04
Tommy aged nineteen sixty nine,
52:06
met. Best place to perform.
52:09
For you. Wherever the next
52:12
gig is. Best Borough of
52:14
New York Manhattan. Favorite
52:16
Seinfeld episode. The
52:19
marine Biologists: Kramer: it's the golf ball
52:21
into the blowhole of the well. Favorite
52:24
model of course. The
52:26
Three Fifty Six speedster from Nineteen Fifty
52:28
Eight. Favorite. Interview on comedians in
52:30
cars getting coffee. I'll give you
52:32
my favorite moment with Tracy! I
52:35
love Oregon! He's talking
52:37
a blue strict about nothing.
52:40
I say to him boy you talk
52:42
a lot says he says I was
52:45
in a coma for two weeks and
52:47
I said but not the last two
52:49
years. Okay,
52:55
daring I said the Christoph Waltz. What
52:57
is the differences in the Austrians of
53:00
the Germans? Anyway, what is the difference
53:02
He said. What's. The difference between
53:04
the walls and the goose step. Cynical. One
53:09
word for the following people: Larry David.
53:11
Lovable. Amy. Schumer. Flawless.
53:17
Wow Chris Rock! Cyber
53:20
Intelligence. Jackie
53:23
Mason. Muslim
53:26
in the master of upper
53:29
middle class judaism. Johnny.
53:31
Carson. Political. Genius!
53:34
Favorite comedian under forty. I
53:36
don't. Ah, I'm
53:39
really loving. Need for God's You I think
53:41
is over forty though I think is forty
53:43
five. He's just wonderful. I love neighbor God
53:45
see who I work with Less Moon. Favorite.
53:48
Flavor a pop. Tart brown sugar, cinnamon,
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53:53
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the most important thing. Your parents thought You. Be.
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Independent. For.
54:04
Your hero. Marcus.
54:07
Aurelius My. Perspective.
54:11
The. Most important single word and life. Jerry
54:14
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